The worst show I’ve seen in like 5 years: Obi-Wan Kenobi

[@GreaseCrease]

My biggest problem with Disney star wars is that everything feels so small. The sets, locations, stories and characters. Nothing has that grand feeling it used to have

[@BT-ex7ko]

Money, money, money, money. It's all about cutting costs and having a high profit margin for doing as little work as possible. Yeah they have well known actors in this particular show for PR/Advertising, but overall the costs cut on staff elsewhere makes a big difference. I've never watched this so I have no idea who wrote the episodes, but just one single screenwriter can blast out a episode in under a few hours-the downside? No detail and all fluff. Just from the clips in here the costumes are probably all desert farmers because they're cheap to make. The sets are small because they're easy to make. Don't like someone's delivery of a line? Keep it anyway, saves on time. Disney and it's subsidiaries stopped caring about quality a while ago. It's an investment, It's not meant to be entertaining-and that's what makes this so sad. I know it's stated it was 25 million per episode, but until I see a breakdown, I don't believe nearly any of that money went into actual production.

[@JackSather]

Completely agree

[@Alexis-no4yj]

@The Rotten💯 yet you all love the older movies, the ones with dialogue written as if English isn’t the original language planned for the movie lmao

[@alexman378]

Because agenda tops imagination with them.

[@AgentMoray]

Your name is 100 times better than Obi Wan Kenobi was.

[@KevinSmile]

Just want to say that I would not be opposed to more tv/movie reviews on this channel.

[@JackSather]

Good to hear!!

[@ThePumpkinBasher]

@@JackSather I concur, this was very well structured and hilarious

[@hamdanwahab6913]

@@JackSather I Really want more content from you, you are an amazing KZbinr and I'm very excited when a video gets uploaded by you

[@_MaZTeR_]

@@JackSather Can you review the Book of Boba Fett and the Halo show?

[@FattyJesus]

@@JackSather Same, as long as it's a "nerd" show, I think your content and review is perfect for this

[@brock2460]

I agree, the whole thing felt so unconsequential and nonsensical, after 6 weeks of watching it i was left with a gigantic “i gained nothing from watching this show” feeling.

[@ChrisPBacon-gn9jx]

I feel that because the start was so slow/bad, it just ruined any excitement I had for the remaining episodes

[@JuJuLa__]

Success of Mandalorian caused shit tons of upcoming Star wars shows. I've never watched star wars besides some youtube videos for lore. The only show is Mandalorian I've seen so when Boba Fett appeared I had no idea who he was but he was badass. So It's natural that I would see The Book Of Boba Fett show and it was so forgettable and medicore. quality of Mando and Boba show is day and night. And from that moment I knew Kenobi show would suck and i did not give it a chance. No matter what star war show comes out, I'm only waiting Mando season 3.

[@AshtonTheMelon]

But we lose so much. Darth Vader vs Obi Wan, outside of some of the dialogue and the flashback to Anakin, actually ruins some things for the later series. All in all, like most things Disney has sodomized, I will consider it not cannon and move on.

[@Sengg0]

that's the point they can't do anything consequential with these filler shows

[@Williams_11989]

It was so bad nothing motivated me to watch the finale

[@jasonmiller7800]

I'm glad you pointed out the biggest earliest inconsitency with Kenobi's character "The jedi are done, we lost and suck" and in the same breath "The boy MUST be trained! And I must train him!"

[@mashy6126]

Also the fact that the opening sequence has dialogue from the prequels in which Yoda and Kenobi are talking and Yoda mentions that he has "special training" for Obi-wan, that of course regarding the force ability of communing with force ghosts. However, despite Kenobi anticipating the results of this training, he's also completely given up hope in the force and the way of a Jedi. It just doesn't make sense, almost as much as Luke deciding to try and cut down a sleeping Ben Solo, when years earlier he refused to kill the evil Sith Lord, Darth Vader, because he could tell there was conflict within him.

[@Doge10YT]

​@@mashy6126Oh dang....

[@moe5020]

best scene has to be Vader chasing down Obi-wan, landing next to him, walking towards him and then saying "have you come to kill me?" XD

[@vsf_dave811]

*EDIT* I wrote the original comment before Andor came out, obviously now I’m glad it got the budget that it did because it was a masterpiece lol The fact that “Andor” seems to have a significantly higher budget and production quality than the series about one of the most iconic Star Wars characters of all time (with the original, beloved actors returning) is simply mind boggling to me.

[@obiwankenobi687]

It just started filming before Obi wan pre pandemic when they were still using traditional filming methods. Obi wan was filmed during and after andor when Disney started to make more use out of the volume stage and move away from traditional location shooting. That’s why andor looks better than obi wan as it’s real location and obi wan is a soulless cgi stage (which still looked amazing just not as cinematic). Don’t think it’s anything to do with budget No doubt series 2 of andor will be done in the same way as obi, mando, book of boba Fett etc as it’s now ‘caught up’ to the newer filming methods Disney seems to want to use going forward. Hope I’m wrong though

[@obiwankenobi687]

@Maximus Stone they are definitely not budget issues. It’s Disney

[@friendlyreaper9012]

Yeah I literally couldn't care less about some character who appears in a filler movie. Especially a prequel series since we know he dies, completely pointless and a waste of money.

[@obiwankenobi687]

@@friendlyreaper9012 not really pointless as it seems like 90% of people are looking forward to it

[@obiwankenobi687]

@@CalebBerman nah thanks

[@jsyvret472]

I understood when I was about 13 that villains that are quiet and patient were way scarier than angry and brash villains. Genuinely can't believe the writers of this show don't understand that

[@Gentamoru]

Well yeah, that's what Darth Maul, Count Dooku and Palpatine were all about, sort of calm or quiet, patient and fucking bad asses, great at fighting.

[@TheChosennn]

@@Gentamoru and evil

[@Erick-tv8oq]

@@tealishpotato How the fuck do these people keep failing upwards?

[@hk1371]

A few exceptions I find are when the villain is actually dangerous due to that brash and anger. Vaas from Far Cry 3 is a great example due to how he shows his anger as massively unpredictable. Even his own men fear him from how he could go from 10 to 1000 in an instant

[@jsyvret472]

@@hk1371 Vaas was more unpredictable than constantly angry. He was usually having a pretty good time being a nutcase. A bit like joker

[@dCa991]

It’s crazy how much better Trilla was as an antagonist than Reva with a fraction of the “screentime”

[@LoveProWrestling]

No idea who Trilla is, which shows how unmemorable any of it was. Was that Fleas character? Actually , don't answer that I'm never watching it again.

[@dCa991]

@@LoveProWrestling She’s not in Obi Wan, she was the Second Sister in Jedi Fallen Order and was basically Reva but better in every way.

[@Nonpain]

@@LoveProWrestling She's from the game Fallen order, they took a lot of "inspiration" from this game for the show , like the whole underwater-base is basicly the game ending just copy pasted into the show .

[@kartikeyatomar9847]

@@LoveProWrestling you can't afford Jedi fallen order hub

[@stellviahohenheim]

​@@cactusmaloneHot women does, and trilla is scalding hot

[@robertmihai2023]

It is so weird Hayden was in so many interviews flr this show. It made me believe he does more stuff in it than he actually does

[@spike5499]

yeah because clearly they knew he was one of the main draws of this show, but then they severely underutilize him anyways??

[@TheSocratesofAthens]

It was a trick to get you to watch it.

[@manz7860]

Got me to watch it. It's so strange. I hate the show. But I genuinely enjoyed seeing Hayden and Ewan on the big screen again. Too bad they couldn't get something actually worthy.

[@BaldPerspective]

Ja homie, that's Hollywood marketing for you

[@Westbrook__]

@@spike5499 He's.... he's literally playing vader??? A character that wears a mask? tf else do you want?

[@devindraco3594]

I love how they tried to make us care for Reva after she tried to torture a 6 year old for information.

[@XTheWrightGuyX]

You care about Anakin and he killed a bunch of kids, stop kidding yourself

[@devindraco3594]

@@XTheWrightGuyX we saw anakin for 6 movies, we see his rise and fall

[@thegamingcook785]

​@@devindraco3594exactly. He did that horrible thing, but we've had 6 movies with him, and his fall was something that was tragic, he was seduced and always meant to be evil..

[@zachanikwano]

@@XTheWrightGuyX We care for Anakin because we see him humanized and as a quippy good guy hero of the republic, before the child slaying. Reva’s just kind of an unhinged brat, and not in a fun way

[@Cityweaver]

​@@XTheWrightGuyXYou also simply don't HAVE to care for Anakin after he kills younglings. You don't have to forgive him. He's a villain for the rest of the story. His redemption is killing the Emperor and himself, which is the least he can do after two decades of evil. What does Reva do to make up for HELPING Darth Vader hunt Jedi? 🤔

[@dillon9922]

Excellent synopsis. It pains me how good this show could've been...

[@dillon9922]

The 2.5 hour Kai Patterson fan edit movie addresses many of the nuisances mentioned!

[@cheesyboi8599]

This was just the epitome of “a lot of words that convey absolutely nothing”. I wasted so much time watching this show, which sucks because the acting from Haden and Ewan was actually pretty good, the writing was just terrible. Like wtf obi wan the master Jedi can’t catch a small child?! He could’ve just tripped her with the force if he didn’t want anyone to know he was a Jedi! I miss watching the first mandalorian season because back then I actually had hope for these shows. Really felt like the flash tv show.

[@JackSather]

100% agreed

[@clickfire8687]

By the way, they delayed the show because they didn’t like the script. I wonder what was the script before the changes

[@jasperhorne]

I don't want to be a hater but even the action was awful: Pointless Leia chase, pointless Reva parkour, Kenobi's lightsabers bouncing off of stormtrooper armor, Vadar's lightsaber bouncing off the floor and rocks, etc.

[@forgemaster5925]

I agree with the Mando season 1 thing because it felt new but also somewhat cinematic. The way they handled the show was so cool and it felt unique amongst the other stories being told.

[@SlivCommique]

He was disconnected from the force. It caused him physical pain to use it and even when he did use it he was rusty

[@bumponalog5001]

I turned it off after Vader dragged Obi-wan through the fire and then watched as a robot slowly ambled over, picks him up, and slowly walks away, all while his stormtroopers can't find a lady 20 feet away on top of a gravel pile. Some of the laziest, most idiotic scene direction and writing I'd ever seen.

[@mro4ts457]

Ben and Vader fighting in this show completely ruins all of meaning of their fight on Volcano-world and subsequent reunion on the DeathStar in a New Hope. Completely ruined by having this random, out of character, fight for both of them. It takes away all the gravity and meaning behind Kenobi leaving Anakin to burn after disowning him as a brother. Frustrating forsure

[@MrZackavelli]

​@@homer6292prequels didn't ruin anything

[@mro4ts457]

@Homer Given that line in a new hope “when I left you, I was but a learner” it fits best with their last interaction being on volcano world. Due to Anakins ego, he phrases it “when I left you” despite him being the one who was left, and it was their last interaction on volcano-word that ended their padawan/master relationship. So it makes complete sense for that fight to be their last interaction, but their fight in the Kenobi show ruins all of that.

[@Uzi16_29]

Stormtroopers have always been dumb tho

[@willarnold1074]

Met Jack at an airport a few weeks ago, super cool guy, just as happy to see his fans as they are too see him

[@cahilart8966]

cool guy haha

[@MonarchLMC]

That was me in a jack mask hahaha get scammed

[@whatswiththisnewhandlesthing]

Hope he had a sathe flight

[@andrelamotte9002]

I have such a big crush on him 😅

[@cahilart8966]

@@andrelamotte9002 well, he's kinda attractive, i'm not gonna lie, he has something HAHA

[@asc3nded397]

“So Reva's motivation is: she blames a guy for not stopping the massacre of her Jedi friends by his apprentice cause he was too busy riding a lizard and chasing a four-armed robot driving a unicycle, so she joins a group of Jedi killers where she spends years killing Jedi, torturing children and civilians so she can kill that guy for killing Jedi and that way get revenge on the guy that trained the guy that killed the Jedi. When that doesn't work she goes off to murder a child on a random planet. She changes her mind so all the years of war crimes are instantly forgiven. I bet that woman whose hand she just chopped off to prove a point would just love that. And, she killed Wade, ffs.“ This is a comment I found on another video that perfectly captures how stupid of a character Reva is.

[@OriginalName42069]

It’s pretty insane that the fan edits of the show improved it 10 fold. How do fans working for free do better than people getting paid thousands

[@Harregarre]

No indoctrination.

[@TravisHi_YT]

Merit vs in group preference

[@cactusmalone]

The fans care about the quality of the intellectual property alone, not being able to work in the corrupt industry again

[@randombotaccount]

Because they care. More than a paycheck.

[@topsecreturl]

Passion.

[@Andrew-uh4wf]

A thing that annoys me most is that 2 Jedi have broken into fortress inquisition on the water planet. First cal kestis and then later obi wan. No added security? Then also leia is in the show for no real reason

[@guccimalcs]

Nobody gives af about that game. Compared to the rest of the fan base the people who played that game are a very small minority. Hell, I played the game and finished it. I completely forgot about most of it until I saw people mentioning it online. Literally nobody but you guys care about that.

[@hunterthegreat5961]

@@guccimalcs your missing the point of continuity which the shows makes a point it seems to break and reports are coming in the Andor series is doing the same from either the director or writer’s own words….

[@guccimalcs]

@@hunterthegreat5961 I stopped caring about continuity when Disney threw out the EU. You should have too. Why get invested in the lore when they can just change it up whenever they want? Look man, I enjoyed the show for what it was. All I wanted was to see Ewan as obi-wan one last time and the show did a good job with his character. And andor? Sorry to say but I don’t care about a side character from a shitty movie.

[@jeremiahsagers135]

No added security? Hell, they decreased it. They took away the security of a blockade of star destroyers above the base that Cal and the crew had to get past by... magically turning invisible. Ok, tbh I don't like the way they got into the base in Fallen Order either, but at least security was an issue.

[@hunterthegreat5961]

@@guccimalcs I’m to logical and lore invested to not immediately see plot holes ect… and far as not caring goes, after Ep 9 I lost my ability to get excited with the franchise and have stopped expecting good quality story since what where The Book of Boba Fett was.👍👍👍

[@knivesmillions2913]

This show has no rewatch-ability whatsoever and that in my opinion is everything. If it is a chore to get through a show (or even a video game) I don't see it as a good show. I still rewatch scenes from the earlier seasons of Game of Thrones and the Wire. Why? Because they have longevity, in acting, writing, dialogue, storytelling, etc... Kenobi like many other shows nowadays has none of these things going for it.

[@imnotcarlos]

well, you're not wrong

[@randomcontentguy2521]

Knives millions you are absolutely spot on

[@Fadaar]

Javier Bardem's character in No Country is legitimately one of the most terrifying villains in movie history. There's no substitution for realistic psychopathy.

[@Gentamoru]

I think that's because he isn't necessarily a villain but instead some crazy dude walking around killing people, he will come for you when you least expect it, just absolutely relentless and the fact that there could be people out there just like that gives me the hibbie jibbies. But when it comes to Star Wars... they act like some edgy high school bullies that came out of some movie from the 2000's or some shit

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

@@Gentamoru I think what makes Chigurh so terrifying is how unaffected he is by all the violence he commits and how cold and methodically he takes a life.

[@dankmoonman6298]

When you don’t even think of the actor just the character, you know the actor killed it

[@Vision7550]

This show was awful and gets worse the more I think about it. There was no story to tell here. We already knew how things had to end up before this series even started production. Thing is that Disney can churn these shows out, quality be damned, and people will watch and talk about them. I watched it and I haven't seen any of the Mandalorian, for example! These shows aren't about telling compelling stories or expanding on the Star Wars universe in any meaningful way (if there is even is a meaningful way to do so anymore). It's about making money. It's about getting fans to point at the screen and say "WOW! I can't believe it, Quinlan Vos got mentioned! I know him! That's so cool!!!!" Even though it meant nothing, like 99% of dialogue in this show. It's about milking this stuff until there is nothing left, and the Star Wars well has been dry since The Last Jedi. There's just no repairing this series' reputation at this point, at least not by Disney. You said it best at the start. There was no fun to be had with this show. While the quality of Star Wars has never always been the highest, it at least used to be fun. This video was fun, though. Awesome stuff.

[@God_of_the_cringe]

Mando is actually good

[@hk1371]

@@God_of_the_cringe Mando (As much as I love it) is decent at best. It doesn't really flesh out anything in its stories. hell, the main character, Din, makes no sense as a mandalorian with the amount of gaps in his knowledge. We're 2 seasons in and he doesn't have any more revealed about him. He barely seems to have hobbies, has a "dark side" they forgot and doesn't have any meaningful character traits beyond the stereotype

[@EwokNubNub]

love the comparisons to Inglorious Basterds and No Country for Old Men, absolute masterpieces. I would love to see some movie reviews from you Jack!

[@Dexiclon]

it's kind of crazy that EA made a Star Wars game with a better story than a show by the actual owners of the IP. I feel like it just shows with all the new announced content for both Star Wars and Marvel that they are siding with quantity over quality. That and the newer content has been severely lacking in value even now, so I have really low hopes for the future of these franchises.

[@dalkay]

The story for Jedi Fallen Order is written by one of the Clone Wars screenwriters. That’s why it’s so great.

[@togepipi]

Fallen Order Feels Like It Has A Point Because The Holocron That Could Endanger Young Lives Is Out There And In Obi Wan It's About Baby Leia

[@masteryoda7207]

It was really respawn that made that game so good, but otherwise I completely agree with you.

[@carlitosskater89]

The last mcu films felt like not worthy of my time. Even watching them at home with friends, much later so we wouldn't be losing as much money as going first day to the cinema, it felt like a real letdown and made me glad i didn't wasted any penny on cinema.

[@KepSquiPu]

Damn I was really hoping the yoda hat would stay ON during the se.. I mean video. But I agree it was so heartbreaking to see obi-wan get the same damn "cynical hermit in a cave" treatment that Luke did. And if it's fuckin gold seeing you rip into the ridiculous chase sequences Another banger of a video to watch, and great to see you continue to expand the channel, even beyond just video games. And when you see read this comment, remember, you'll think of us

[@JackSather]

Haha thanks Kep, i wish i kept the hat on too. I’m pissed i took it off. Next time i’ll commit

[@dalkay]

I would’ve been ok with the hermit thing if they did it like Logan and leaned into it but instead they had him have a whole “zany” adventure and it was just forced and tonally inconsistent.

[@turbotoke8882]

i havent been this dissapointed in any product of media ever in my life. This show felt like a fanfiction you find on reddit written by a fan. This Star Wars project easily had the most potential out of any, but ended up being wasted by Disney. Really hope mando season 3 doesnt get the same treatment...

[@phalanx8437]

Your fault honestly, how anyone can not be weary of a mega-corp like Disney and their ability to produce meaningful content in the year 2022? Consoooooome.

[@turbotoke8882]

@@phalanx8437 i mean they did make mando season 1 and 2 which in my opinion is some of the best Star Wars content ever made. But i have no clue why John Favreu wasnt the writer for Obi Wan since he is like the writer for almost every other SW show

[@dalkay]

@@phalanx8437 i pirated it lol

[@turbotoke8882]

@@dalkay i respect that

[@lessalazar9068]

Eeeeerrrrr I'm sorry buddy it's happening again

[@levigivens]

Watching this was cathartic for me. It legitimately comforts me to watch you vent and articulate what I've been thinking and feeling so strongly.

[@randyjax09]

I never hear anyone talk about it, but live-action Disney has abandoned nearly all of Lucas’s established alien races for ones they invented in the sequel trilogy. You know them when you see them because they only come in shades of brown. The only time we see anything resembling the galaxy fans love, it’s when Favreau & Filoni are at the helm.

[@RealestH8R]

Those two aren’t even that good either

[@d.cirovic1695]

​@@RealestH8Ryeah, while filoni is a bad script writer imo that doesnt respect other peoples work inside his own enough. He still LOVES Star wars and you can fucking tell. The guys knows star wars in and out and while I dont think just that should've made him god emperor of disney star wars (I believe that ,just like Lucas did, filoni needed to be put in olace by a staff of actual screen writers/ directors etc) Filoni made shows atleast show the passion and the feel of a galaxy far far away. Shows like Kenobi have nothing of that.

[@firestarter000001]

To me, its a premeditaded course of action. Imho Kennedy and her croonies hates the old Star Wars( at least what little she knows about it) , she only loves Star Wars reach to milions of fans. She doestn want to write more good Star Wars, she wants to cram her bulshit and message. As it was said " Burn the past if you have to" . All the shows are about deconstructing old characters and trying to push her new ones or the few ones that fits her agenda liek Leia ( Last Jedi, Boba Fett, Obi Wan, now Mandalorian. ) , same goes for alien races. Why create High Republic when you got Old Republic? Becuase she wants to erase everything that was before her.

[@cloudcollector83]

This is basically exactly how I felt while watching this show and other recent disappointments like The Book of Boba Fett or Halo. Some parts I even played at 2x speed because of how boring or excruciatingly painful certain scenes are. Also, just like with your Red Dead video, I love the way you bring your points across, well-structured and funny but not too over the top that it becomes annoying. I wouldn't mind seeing more opinion videos on other TV shows or movies. Keep it up! 🙌

[@budgetlifter]

when boba came back in Mandalorian, it was pretty epic and when they announced he would get his own story i was hyped. Ended up being just an old guy being carried by the asian lady, losing every battle he is in and screaming "bacta tank" at his guards...reminded me of that picture of joe rogan in an ice bath tbh

[@calebkent6706]

Theres a halo show? Oh you mean the generic sci fi show on p+ that is only halo in name i swear ive seen some clips it looks horrible i may watch it just to see what the fuss is about but so far wtf

[@DW-rs1pr]

What bothered me the most is obi wan. The whole thing about his depiction in the originals and the sequels was that he has this unbreakable belief and bond with the force and the jedi way. He was positive and undeterred. In this. He became a scared coward who didn't believe in anything... how could he not be a quiet guardian and stay true to himself? The obi wan from the lucas movies was not so weak

[@imnotcarlos]

it's called character development after losing everything.

[@kano101435]

@@imnotcarlos yeah dude and its been done better lol. Samw goes for luke in ep 8. Just out of left field and muh "character developtment ". Yeah if its done properly ofc its nice ,but other than that its a mediocre way for characterization.

[@hk1371]

@@imnotcarlos you can still have character development whilst having Kenobi still have his faith in the Jedi. They could have really investigated Kenobis belief in the Jedi, how he handles their failure whilst being one himself, maybe what he sees as needed to bring the Jedi back via Luke. But no, we'll just make him a sad hermit

[@Ale-dd3ek]

​@@imnotcarlos it's not development You would defend Aragorn becoming a tirant He went to Tatooine for Luke, non for fear. He planned with Yoda to make Luke a Jedi since episode 3

[@thomasgolds4585]

The thing is that it’s actually a good direction to bring the character… if they actually showed us WHY he got so depressed. Instead it’s just destroying both the original vision of Obiwan, and any potential for this new guy

[@TacitusKillgore1]

Missed you Jack, I'm glad you ripped apart this garbage show. I lost brain cells watching it, episode 4 was just hilariously bad.

[@luisan776]

Having baby Yoda standing ominously in the shadows was a genius move

[@philipajfry]

You've described my disappointment with this show just - better than most reviewers. You pointed out what was wrong, gave examples, and explained why it's bad rather than just ranting. It was analytical while still keeping an off-the-cuff and conversational feel! Good job.

[@theessentials450]

Duh...

[@ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle]

@@theessentials450 Well he's one of the few KZbin "reviewers" who do so maybe don't waste everyone's time with a pointless reply adding absolutely nothing of value?

[@theessentials450]

​@@ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandleback at ya, Super Chief

[@ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle]

@@theessentials450 you saying something pointless and mind numbing for the sake of sounding like a prick and me calling you out for it are not the same... But great comeback, truly one of the comebacks I've ever heard.

[@dudhebcjceu]

the part i hated the most was the fact that obi-wan couldve literally saved multiple planets and stop everything in the saga from happening and decided to walk away

[@Mrhappyface52]

lost all hope in the jedi like bro weren't you trained to never lose hope or something but no Disney wants creates their own cannon and anyone who hates it Disney will think its because there's a female black actor. Istg Disney's new memo is "diversity over quality people".

[@dpistons149]

Wtf lol no way

[@loaf5025]

realistically obi would’ve killed ani in that final fight, saving millions

[@LethalByChoice]

I mean they would be retconning the older movies where Vader actually killed Obi-Wan, but I get what you mean, they should have made it make more sense why Vader would still be alive.

[@Ale-dd3ek]

​@@Mrhappyface52 Obi Wan NEVER Lost Hope The entire point of him being on Tatooine was to protect Luke and train him when It was time He and Yoda planned this, they knew they couldn't beat the Emperor themselves but Luke was their chance They Just copied Jake Skywalker

[@Visaj.]

leia played her part remarkably well for a small child, the writing was the issue for sure

[@duprebushnell2488]

@Newsbender II she singlehandedly made me stop watching the show 🤦‍♂

[@3loirdsa277]

I will never watch a Disney show again because of how remarkably she played her part.

[@oldschool8330]

Why even put a 10 year old in such a prominent role.

[@spike5499]

@@3loirdsa277 your loss for missing out on andor

[@3loirdsa277]

@@spike5499 i have not seen it so idk. But from what I have seen I don’t like it. Even the trailer was boring I didn’t even finish it.

[@Vinthechad]

My biggest issue with this show is that it feels so much smaller compared to the other shows. The fact that Andor got remarkably well reception was cause of it's story, world building, & budget. Instead, we have at least 4 to 5 desert planets that looked like they were filmed in my backyard in southern California

[@kheembo]

I remember the feeling I had when leaving the cinema after having watched The Force Awakens. I had been sceptical prior to the movie coming out, but I decided to give it a shot anyway. Immediately I felt something was off, and when returning home I felt agitated and disappointed, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on what was troubling me. My friends all liked the movie, but I was left feeling hurt and cheated, resembling how I’d feel when having had a conversation with someone being passive aggressive towards me. I went on KZbin to see if others felt the same way, and I remember coming across multiple videos of people sharing their reactions and their analysis of the movie, detailing their disdain for what they had just seen. I remember sitting there literally going «YES! YES! EXACTLY!» to EVERY. SINGLE. point being brought up…! Watching people put into words what I was subconsciously feeling and speaking out about it was such an incredible breath of fresh air. In that moment, I vowed to never again waste a single minute of my time watching anything of such a politicised and preachy nature, where storytelling is sacrificed for whatever reason, to an extent where it looses all entertainment value. I just want to say that I’m incredibly thankful for people like you, who keep it real and call out bullshit when you see it! You champion and extremely important voice, absolutely vital in the grand scheme of entertainment nowadays. I hope you’ll do more of these types of videos, because it was a real enjoyment to watch. You've now hands down become my new favourite movie critic alongside The Critical Drinker 🙌

[@BillyChungus]

The thing that bothered me the most about the show was the camera work and direction. It felt amateur, as if a rookie made it. As Jack said the shaky cam was nauseating and I can’t remember a single time I was felt immersed into the world.

[@theessentials450]

you play video games all day, you don't know shit about camera work.

[@aaronharris102]

"let's have a tight shot shaky cam for a lightsaber duel and a cut every 2 seconds" - Disney George Lucas often did the opposite as unsurprisingly it's the long shots and wide angle shots that allow you to see what is going on and sense who is winning the fight. Although people meme on it, the prequels had some of the best fight choreography in cinema.

[@dknf4036]

Disney owns everything now and who would have thought now everything is dogshit lmao

[@Plathismo]

A rookie did make it, I'm sure--a diversity hire.

[@VibisTAG]

The thing I hate about this show is how the camera shakes at every scene. It got so distracting.

[@JackSather]

Every scene!

[@calebkent6706]

Yea whoever did the camerawork shouldve been fired

[@brigs247__8]

The cinematography in this show is atrocious.

[@TheOldMan-75]

There is something seriously wrong in Hollywood. Budgets are completely out of control with everything costing $200 Million and more but apparently they spend like 15 bucks on the scriptwriters. I'm not expecting high-brow entertainment but how about putting some thought into your story and characters?

[@patrickdavies9790]

This can’t be sustainable. At some point Hollywood is going to implode. I’m not even sure how Kenobi is expected to make 200 million back.

[@ImNotKaleb]

I’ve been saying this to my friends ever since the show wrapped up. They were so ecstatic to see Ewan and Hayden “reprise” their roles that they overlooked how truly 1-dimensional to series is. And that is exactly what Disney hopes every single one of their fans is like. They throw big names like Obi-Wan and Darth Vader at you because they think you’re stupid. Yes, they have no respect for their viewers and they think you are all morons. Because this franchise is not important to them, because they know no matter how much they butcher the characters people will still pay to watch. It’s all about money, it has nothing to do with protecting George Lucas’s vision or respecting his universe or his characters. They don’t care, they never have, and they never will.

[@JoesphKolbe13]

WOW, this review couldn't have been any more spot on with this show! Disney is too focused on politics to give Star Wars the attention it deserves. The only thing Disney could do to redeem future Star Wars content is to let the fans make the important decisions... but that will never happen. Great review, Jack. This review was more entertaining than the show itself!

[@SilheraKnight]

I second this comment. Awesome review, for my first time watching this video and channel! Star Wars handles their older characters with no respect at all. They just write whatever they want on top of pre-established characters ignoring their continuity.

[@JoesphKolbe13]

@@SilheraKnight Completely agree with you!

[@JoesphKolbe13]

@Antonio-Gransci I never said that the show itself is political. I said that Disney is too focused on politics to give the show the attention to detail it deserves.

[@sledgehammer5033]

@Antonio-Gransciyou know what they mean, they just don't want black people in their shows

[@MisterFroddo]

@Antonio-Gransciyeah it is. it’s pretty easy to tell when it’s a political move. There are plenty of minority/women characters in cinema that don’t feel out of place at all. in this show they feel slapped onto the wet canvas for no reason other than to please the woke mob. sorry not sorry

[@budgetlifter]

the one thing I can never get over is that there is no chance of Luke, Leia and Han ever reuniting on the big screen.

[@Amunium]

Well, in a few years they can just believably deep fake them.

[@lapplandkun9273]

Just read the EU NJO novels. Don't see the reason why people think they need shows and movies just for star wars content when there's novels

[@Luke101]

@@lapplandkun9273 because the movies are where it all began and where most people know the lore from?

[@lessalazar9068]

​@@lapplandkun9273 Because most people find movies to be more entertaining and epic then books

[@jacobmatthews7524]

@@lapplandkun9273 because books arent people

[@kylebailey669]

I agree with the majority of this video and loved it. However disagree on a few parts. I feel the idea of an Obi Wan who has completely lost hope after losing his best friend to the dark side (and/or Anakin’s death) the fall of the Jedi, the rise of the Empire, being hunted by Inquisitors, and riddled with PTSD is a very interesting concept and they could’ve absolutely smashed this. The visions he has in his cave and when he calls out for Qui Gonn are really sorrowful and evoke sympathy for Ben. Tho this is hard to balance with his obligation to train Luke and creates a plot hole of losing hope but still wanting to train Luke so the Jedi can rise again. I think they could have gone down the route of the reason being for Obi wanting to still train Luke is because he sees his father in him and is holding onto the brotherhood he once had with Anakin as opposed to wanting to train him for the Jedi to rise again. Then transitioned his view with a character arc after interactions with Vader than he mustn’t train Luke because he is the son of Anakin (I.e. his lingering attachment to Anakin), he must train Luke because he’s “our” only hope (remember he doesn’t know Leia is force sensitive) to take down Vader, igniting Obi Wan’s hope. This would’ve been really touching and reinforced his referral to Anakin as “Darth” in Episode IV, exemplifying he sees Anakin and Darth Vader as two seperate entities (The quote “More machine than human” would definitely be supported by this view point), Anakin his gone and “Darth” is all that remains. Also when Vader doesn’t force push the Fire out, I feel it’s because he wants to fight Obi Wan when he’s at his full strength (how he gets his full strength back in like 2 seconds for their fight in the final episode I have no idea). But nah fr, chase scenes in this show were complete booty. Had so much potential for a focus for Obi and Vader focus with minor focuses on Luke, Leia and the Inqusitors, instead we got the Leia show, which is a real shame. If they don’t give us a Vader show now where he literally rips people apart with the force I’m gonna be so cut. Hyped for Ashoka tho, in Dave Filoni we trust.

[@corndrinker]

youre inferring a lot, if the show had the opposite writing decisions made, and you still forced yourself to love it, youd find some weird convoluted explanation either way. As if Vader gives a fuck about having a fair fight. Please

[@Razor358]

I remember after watching the first episode knowing exactly how the show was gonna go. The overwhelming and honestly suspicious support it got on social media was so weird. But when you learn who the Director is and who some of the cast members are and things that they said in the media before the show even premiered it all makes sense.

[@patrickdavies9790]

Honestly, that positivity suspiciously disappeared once the show finished. So I’m fairly sure they were just paid shills.

[@gohan7104]

@@patrickdavies9790 that and people who think people hated the show because of the women in it. which is straight bs. the show was just fucking bad

[@hochmanbrian]

Could u explain more on what you mean

[@talpho3301]

It has nothing to do with the director. It’s literally just prequel fanboys who already live obi wan so much, they won’t notice bad dialogue or directing.

[@josht5453]

@@hochmanbrian social media, particularly twitter, are overwhelmingly supportive of anything in media labeled as “progressive”. So woke twitter heads were propping up the show because of a woman of color playing a primary villain and the director being an asian woman. Unfortunately the show sucked anyways. Kind of like how rolling stones said Black Panther was the best super hero movie of all time. Like its a good movie, but no sane person has it as the best of all time outside of social politics. Same idea here

[@bole961]

The worst thing to ever happen to star wars is Disney writers

[@unluckyme213]

There's a lot of good point here that i never realized. But i love this show because we finally get to see ewan as obi wan and hayden as Anakin/Vader again, it just makes me happy. I understand why obi wan was trying to live a normal life, he's been living with all these memories of order 66 and the guilt of Anakin turning wich i assume is blaming it on him. But then after Vader told him that he isn't his failure and that Vader was the one that killed anakin. He kind of set him free to be the old ben we know from a new hope and rebels, not hiding anymore. Now let's talk about the Vader vs Obi wan fight which was the best thing in this show and i though it was well done. All these references from old projects and emotional lines between Vader and Obi wan made this show a lot better. And don't make me start taking about Qui gon or the "Hello there". I also think the reason vader didn't blow out the fire again is because he didn't really care if kenobi escaped, he just wanted to strike fear within him. As for the ship escaping, it takes immense strength to stop a ship from flying with the force, i know vader has the power, but let's not forget that his suit is holding him back, and i think i was a bit late for him since it was already in the sky. Over all, i really enjoyed this show and thought it was enjoyable, or maybe I'm biased because obi wan is my favorite. But at the end of the day, I'm just glad that we have star wars content to watch especially with Ewan and Hayden coming back.

[@veganesschnitzel2119]

Vader dancing like Micheal Jackson nearly killed me lol

[@Severian1]

They gave all the money and effort to Andor. That's how this show feels like. A bone tossed to the fans to reel them in for Andor. The Empire is not threatening, the Inquisitors are a joke etc. Vader is, I don't even know what he was in this show. It's just disappointing.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@The Rotten💯 you really should watch Andor

[@bdelsouza]

@@oXRaptorzXo dude, you KNOW it's gonna follow on the quality, it's going to suck

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@@bdelsouza I doubt that. Look at the difference in visual quality, and script depth (from what we’ve seen).

[@vsf_dave811]

I have to wonder if a lot of the budget for this show went into bringing back Ewan, Hayden, and Jimmy Smits for Bail Organa. It’s so inexplicable why this project would be the one that gets the low budget, back burner treatment…

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@@vsf_dave811 Kenobi had a 90 million budget apparently so I’m assuming your right

[@jasonmiller7800]

I'm generallly on board with the statement of 'If you like this garbage, then that's fine, you're allowed to', but so many people have liked garbage movies/shows like this that now they realize they can just keep pumping out minimal effort products and a large portion of fans will still be drooling and happy. It's unfortunate we can't expect better from Lucasfilm

[@Luke101]

Gotta disagree with little Leia. I think she far outstayed her welcome, but showing her background as a princess and what her life was like on Alderaan was great since we had no idea what that was like in ANH. Her planet blows up and we don’t really care as much because we know nothing about her or her people. Using her as a way to get Obi Wan off of Tatooine was a smart move for the show, because what is gonna make Obi Wan leave Luke except for Anakin’s other child. I think the young actress really channeled Carrie Fisher’s sassy attitude from ANH. Her performance was quite good in my opinion. But she should have been in 2 episodes tops. Her needing to be rescued multiple times was ridiculous and took precious time away from what this show was SUPPOSED to be about. Anakin and Obi Wan.

[@Luigiscoutman]

Now that you've mentioned it, I wouldn't mind a series where they explain how Vader got his thriller dancing fight moves.

[@jemo4211]

انت هنا ؟

[@alexd2927]

I'm a huge Star Wars fan but I really wasn't looking forward to Obi Wan I knew from the point that they announced it that it would be completely useless and add nothing to the universe Like what was there to explore? Except for his first reaction to Darth Vader... The last good thing Disney put out was The Mandalorian and Bad Batch was alright for me But now they just make shows about beloved characters that dont have any reason to get a own show because they are explored well enough in the Films and or Clone Wars They are scared of making new stuff even tho it worked well with Mando and I dont understand why Im currently debating If I will even watch the shows anymore because I lost hope

[@dalkay]

Same for me. I’ll watch Tales of the Jedi and Bad Batch but the live action stuff has lost the thread imo.

[@alexd2927]

@The Rotten💯 Yeah they fcked up big time on Book of Boba with the Mando stuff that should have been in season 3 I'm also not going to watch any shows like Kenobi anymore.... cant wait for the bs that the Ahsoka series is going to be lmao

[@LeeEverett1]

There was alot to explore for Obi-Wan's arc, there's no way he sat around and did absolutely nothing for 19 years that's a huge gap. It's just a tragedy that they botched it so bad.

[@jemo4211]

They could have turned the comics about his life in tatooine into live action.

[@borkwoof696]

I feel like a lot of people give this show a pass because of the finale (for some reason). But it really takes away a lot of the narrative quality of the OT and the Prequels. The duel of the fates was the climax of Anakin’s and Obi Wan’s relationship. It was heartbreaking, tragic and well built up. But guess what? They go through all of that again years later and Obi Wan kicks Vader’s ass again. So from now one the duel of the fates is just the day Vader turned crispy.🤷🏼‍♂️ Edit: I mixed up the duel of the fates with the duel between Vader and Obi Wan in Ep3

[@brams9431]

I agree 100% but just so you know Duel of the fates is Obi wan & Qui Gonn vs Darth Maul. Anakin vs Obi Wan is battle of the heroes & villains (the name of the music)

[@borkwoof696]

@@brams9431 bruh how did I get that wrong

[@surrealpsalms]

*Battle of the Heroes

[@surrealpsalms]

@@brams9431 it’s just battle of the heroes.

[@amharbinger]

What the show should've focused on is Kenobi and Darth Vader. Overcoming that sense of failing Anakin and finally accepting he's gone but like you said "a lot of words that convey absolutely nothing". It led us in a circle, with nothing being added other than more names to characters shoved into a prequel that was never intended to happen.

[@outforbeer]

Reva doing hard core moves on the rooftop over obstacles not in her way, rofl. Writers want us to think she’s a bad ass but she comes off as a dumb

[@CinematicSeriesGaming]

Yeah, let's be honest. This show is kinda trash. I didn't see many people talk about this but the choreography, cinematography and camerawork were absolutely atrocious. Not a single action scene or lightsaber duel feels exciting. The first duel between Obi-Wan and Vader is just unredeemable. The camera is shaking like crazy all the time, there are too many pointless closeups and editing is way too fast with constant barrages of cuts. Compare that to a Darth Maul duel from Episode 1. This duel was shot 20 odd years ago and should be a fkin golden standard for every subsequent duel. It's great because of amazing choreography and epic music, not because of a million cuts, closeups and shaky cam. There are shots during this epic duel that last almost 10 seconds! 10 SECONDS! Unthinkable now. The camera is very steady and characters are pretty much always fully in frame so it's easy to follow the action and see exactly what's happening. We can watch this duel and appreciate the choreography and actors' performance. It's great. The first Obi-Wan vs Vader duel in the show is just a chaotic mess with zero tension and zero cool moves. Reva vs Vader duel is not much better. It feels like a parody of a Dark Souls boss fight. She starts doing fkin random somersaults around Vader who is too lazy to even face her. Instead, he clumsily smacks the ground around Reva like a video game boss whose attacks are designed to be easily dodgeable. The final Obi-Wan vs Vader duel is also terrible. Obi-Wan does random somersaults, there are bizarre top-down shots (I've never seen anything like this in a good action scene) and everything feels cheap af. It's like a fan movie or something. Even the music is surprisingly terrible. Disney has the rights to all the Star Wars music they want, but for some reason, Obi-Wan's score is just some generic "action music" that sounds like it was downloaded from a music library. Star Wars fan movies have better music than this! Rewatch the first Obi-Wan vs Vader duel and pay attention to the music. Just listen. It's just some random action piece that doesn't feel like Star Wars and it doesn't even match up with what's happening on the screen. It feels like random "combat music" in a video game that automatically starts playing when you enter a fight.

[@thegoose3544]

I agree with almost everything you said but I thought the reva darth Vader scene was awesome. It’s just Vader at the peak of his power wiping the floor with her.

[@JCShadow0202]

Exactly what I was about to comment, glad someone else disagrees with that take. That fight was literally one of few good things to come from the show.

[@davmatt941]

I know this is months later but I still can’t get over the scene where the Red Hot Chili Peppers chase Leia. I honestly think it is one of the worst, most pathetic attempts of creating urgency in film I’ve ever seen. I have quite literally seen better scenes filmed and edited by high school students.

[@ahzoka6785]

I believe that the Clone Wars was the single most greatest form of Star Wars media made. It added much needed lore to a conflict that was hinted at ever since began. Following a main cast of Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka, and Captain Rex, with different individual side stories sprinkled along the way was genius. It felt like a gigantic Star Wars movie, where every episode (excluding the one off dud) had some sort of purpose to the larger story, or an individual character. The fact that Obi-Wan Kenobi saw way more development from the Darth Maul episodes in the Clone Wars rather than his own show was insane. I feel that if Disney was to make a Star Wars TV Show with a Clone-Wars style approach to episodes, except have it placed in a different era (possibly in between IV & V). We would have a show that doesn't feel like it needs to add filler to its stories just to fit the episode count. After seeing Obi-Wan, I have lost interest in anything Star Wars. I swear, there is nothing cool coming out related to Star Wars anymore.

[@humanbeing2420]

Comparing the opening scene in Inglorious Basterds to Obi-Wan Kenobi is really .....um, lopsided. It's like comparing a meal at one of the greatest restaurants in Paris to a bowl of feces.

[@NationalEligraphic]

This man made a better Vader introduction on the spot than Disney did in like a year😭 wtf

[@Habit117]

Your reviews are something to die for. Love the format. Please do A LOT more of these and also keep the game series rants coming.

[@Koen1702]

The weird thing is that there were no trailers of this show in my country. It’s s bit my fault, because I rarely use social media. So I only knew that I would come out sometime. I went to Disney + a few weeks ago and I saw the whole series was already online. So I had almost no hype for this and I was still disappointed.

[@alexlanderos102]

Bro I lost it when you said reva is parkouring over obstacles that aren’t in her way 😂😂😂

[@nlbite]

So I studied screenwriting in college so I LOVE coming up with my own movie/show alternatives to the shit we often get. So here is MY pitch for the Obi-Wan show I would have wanted. The story revolves around Obi wan on Tatooine trying to adapt to his new life as a simple hermit, hiding his powers from the locals, the conflict between him and Owen over the future of Luke. and a new threat that emerges in the area. No, Obi does NOT leave the planet and there is no Vader or Leia in this story. He remains in the area because his main priority is his core mission. To protect Luke. But just because this is a smaller self contained story on one planet with minimal lightsaber fights, does not mean it has to be boring. For instance Obi can struggle with moral dilemma of staying neutral in a harsh corrupt environment. The fact that he's this uber powerful warrior war hero, but every day he has to watch as the locals are bullied and murdered by local gangs. Yet he can't do anything because it might risk his core mission. Maybe one night during a sandstorm he finally goes out to takes care of the bullies in a stealthy way that won't reveal himself. However this action has unforeseen consequences in that it still attracts unwanted attention. First come the imperial inquisitors seeking Jedi. However they end up finding the wrong Jedi hidden on Tatooine. Instead of locating Obi-wan, they find Sharad Hett. (Googgle him) He's living among the Tusken Raiders acting as their chief. Hett brutally wipes them all out in a display of his power, showing him to be a far greater threat. The inquisitors finding his hidden location prompts him to take action. He expect more Jedi hunters to arrive, and eventually Vader. Hiding is no longer an option, so he decides to rally his raiders and take control of the area. With the raider clans united, he can hope to fend off any further imperial forces. He becomes a warlord of a massive raider force who burn and pillaging settlements all over the planet. Eventually Obi realizes he must face Hett, since he's only one one powerful enough to take on the dark jedi. So the two square off in a duel pretty much exactly as it happens in the Legends comics (link below). In the end, Obi wan is victorious, Hett is defeated but still alive, the raider war-party scatters after watching their leader get defeated and shamed, and the threat to the area is gone. Since Obi spares Hett from death, the dark jedi eventually goes on to become the future sith lord Darth Krayt. This sets up a proper villain in future Star Wars projects. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Duel_on_Tatooine_(Imperial_Period)

[@guapocat203]

I liked the general essence of the Obi-Wan series overall, but this would have been wonderful to see, really well done. Thanks for writing something constructive and creative. It’s not that I think Disney Star Wars is flawless, it’s just a salt-mine reading the same criticisms over and over. At least Disney is creating something, and to be honest a lot of other ideas for stories I’ve read from fans are just not that interesting (to me, anyway). This was an amazing concept though, I would have absolutely loved seeing this on screen.

[@wesside2018]

The moment you realize that Darth Vader was just a side character

[@PepperHand]

Solid honestly. I truly liked little Leia by the end of the show, I don’t think she was that terrible of a child actress, it was 110% the writing and directing of the show that was the cause of ALL of the problems. They just trued to cut corners and thought it would be so easy and baseline to write a simple feel good story for Obi-Wan but they really just did the boy dirty.

[@revan5293]

As child actors go she did a good job.

[@simpleemodern]

Lmao I have half my back covered in Star Wars tattoos.. I think it’s officially okay for me to say I’m NOT impressed with new Star Wars anything. 🙌🏼 OG trilogy 🙌🏼 🇨🇦 ✌🏼

[@owieczkacs]

The scene on roof made me laugh super hard... people appearing from thin air and immediately disappearing in next scene... I asked my friend who is really into star wars and i asked him about this show. He was in the biggest denial i have ever witnessed in my entire close to 40 years old life. I asked him about this scene what he remembers, after listening to him. I played this scene in front of him while explaining what i was seeing. He called me Star Wars hater LOL :D

[@bcvetkov8534]

If you thought Kenobi was bad we're only three episodes into Ahsoka and it's literally the worst dumpster fire to date imo. Jack your video review was so great and naturally funny. Thank you for making this. I honestly liked Kenobi when I first saw it but didn't notice all the goofy moments because I had my I ❤️ Ewan McGregor goggles on and was just so happy to see him in Star Wars again. Your video totally changed my perspective on the show. I appreciate it man. I hope you make a video for Ahsoka when it comes out.

[@oldschool8330]

This show was an abomination. The last Disney Star Wars production I will watch. Awful awful awful.

[@arlwav]

completely agree. did you get a chance to watch andor?

[@RoachChaddjr]

Yeah it also hit the nail in the coffin for me

[@Hero_Of_Old]

​@@arlwav no, he said obi wan was the last show he'd watch.

[@arlwav]

@@Hero_Of_Old yeah ik im in the same boat with that mentality. Starwars is dead to me, but Andor was a pleasant surprise tbh. Something i thought disney was incapable of producing

[@YourDrunkStepDad]

Andor is so good tho. Like i almost can’t believe how good that show it. If you want good star wars watch that

[@T3CHPR135T]

Whats crazy is apprantly Temura Morrison was supposed to reprise his role as Cody in this and have a scene where he is helping obiwan, and they just blanked the poor guy. Even if having cody is kinda 'memberberry it just gpes to show how good this couldve been if they focus on Kenobis story and characters he knows

[@justApigeon.]

If the thugs in the forest chase scene were hired by Bael Organa to scare Leia then that scene would have made sense. But then they actually kidnapped her and I laughed for 10 minutes.

[@DrKumkar]

Your experience at target about only finding baby Yoda stuff is exactly the reason why they don’t care about the rest of the Star Wars universe, and only about baby Yoda in the Mandalorian

[@Bloodlinedev]

Theory: Disney is experimenting with how low of a budget they can get away with while people will still consume product thus printing money.

[@BEEEGYOSHl]

I think this was a huge missed opportunity for Disney to “fix” the timeline, in a new hope it was made very clear that obi wan and Vader had not seen each other since episode 3, but now this does not make sense, and it was also clear that Leia was aware of obi wan from her father, but after this show they are practically best friends? All this show did was ruin the timeline even more.

[@grady3251]

"When I left you you were the master and I was but the learner" I always took this to mean when he left the order. Not when Anakin and Obi wan physically parted ways. And regardless, Vaders not thinking in that moment "hmmm is what I'm about to say consistent with the timeline?" Hes just trying to say what is most emotionally poignant. For the leia thing, when she contacts Obi wan she is officially requesting he return to his position as general. It was formal. And also she met him only once 9 years prior. I'm 19 right now. If someone saved my life when I was 10 and then dissappeared, we wouldn't automatically act like best friends when we met up again.

[@Ewokpilot65]

@@grady3251 exactly, vader never implies they never met AFTER he left his master

[@beckettshaw660]

@@Ewokpilot65 which is how the show ends tbh

[@hk1371]

@@grady3251 even then, it then makes no sense to say that line there when they meet in the show. If anything, he would have said that line in the show first rather than in 4. Plus, with that viewpoint, it had the great way of being both when they last met AND Anakin leaving the order. Also, no. Leia would have this while journey scarred into her mind, especially the age of 10. She was kidnapped twice, force probed, nearly tortured, nearly fell to her death, was chased by Inquisitiors, saw a guardsman be shot, a trooper be sliced in half. And Obi wan, a jedi, kept her safe throughout all of that and says that he knows her parents. This isnt the equivalent of someone saying "I knew you when you were 9 and o said a few words to you". Hes her saviour. She would definitely bring that up in her message rather than saying "you served my father in the clone wars". She should say "You came to my aid all those years ago and now I must ask you to do so again for the sake of the galaxy." Still formal, still requests help and doesnt sound out of place. Its like saying you know a friend not through the fact we went to school in the same year but rather his dad was a teacher at that school.

[@Hobbit0nCN]

Agree with everything. I was just frustrated most of the time watching it. Also the good parts were just stolen from Jedi Fallen Order.

[@dalkay]

They also stole the whole fight with Vader from Rebels

[@TheGreatJon]

This was great too. You brought up the flaws with visual aids, and good reasons why it sucked. Not just "change bad, hate new star wars". Valid reasons as to why it's rubbish, that's how to get the point across.

[@Kage_1831]

I just cant stand disney's star wars villains. they are all frothing at the mouth crazy evil. like...jesus christ im not afraid of you because you are unhinged. It is much more intimidating when you are calm and collected like Moff Gideon.

[@devinpol4258]

Disney+: where all the movies that should have been canned get turned into tv shows that should have been canned!

[@seanm241]

Thought I was going insane rewatching clips of this show on youtube and seeing all the comments praising this show for it's badass moments and great storytelling🤓 you said it perfectly how disappointing and low quality almost every aspect of the show is. Also almost no music from john williams, like bruh what?

[@srslywhathappened]

As usual, your content is very well put together and full of logical, reasonable arguments that we all feel. Thank you for putting this into words so cleanly and succinctly. this was truly a terrible show. Please keep making more content, Jack!

[@jthoma82]

I love this review. You should really do more show and movie reviews. You methodically break them down in such a way that naysayers can't just ignore it for being some kind of "ist" statement

[@AlexMourning5635]

So we obviously had the renaissance and golden age of television, what are we going to call this era of capitalism and formulaic writing? I feel like we need a name. I kinda wanna call it the "Grey Period" specifically to confuse future film students and to make sure it's effectively a bland term.

[@eufalosobrejogos4775]

Inglorious has tension, cause It has subtext, you spend the scene trying to read The real intentions, so you never sure of what is gonna happen, obi desnt have sub text, bc they go "Jedi where? Gimme or die"

[@titanu9188]

Dude. You may not be first out of the gate with your reviews, but they are always well done and (imo) better thought out than the guys that are pushing out vids the day of!

[@gagesmith7895]

I surprisingly enjoyed a lot of the show. But both times a chase Scene happened I looked at my wife and was like “did….did you see that?? Was that as bad as I think it was??”

[@hughmungus4730]

I like the vibe in your vids. i’ve seen a few where you have a beer in your hand. makes me think you’re relaxed and not just reading word for word staring at script

[@JayTraversJT]

Oh man. A New Hope. Clearly never written with Obi Wan and Leia's past relationship in mind, we all know that. Leia's message to Obi Wan is so obviously spoken without the intent of knowing one another. The dialogue just becomes weird and invaluable once trying to form a connection between the two plots. What about the fact Luke using the name "Ben, Ben Kenobi and Obi Wan Kenobi" in front of her not form any reaction? How about when Obi wan literally dies? Its only been 10 years. She doesn't give a damn. Luke is the only one in the crew to show any negative emotion at his loss. Seriously? This flat out just doesn't work. Furthermore, the fight between Vader and obi wan has its dialogue also loose all weight it previously bared. I mean "I was the learner, now I am the master!"... C'mon! Yes, you could reconnect it to work for this new plot but it no longer holds the same power it once did. It is nothing but cope to believe otherwise. On top of this, have you seen rogue one recently? (edited) [7:02 PM] Bail organa literally says the lines- "He served me well in the clone wars" "He's lived in hiding since the emperors purge" This is to Mon Mothma. Hell, even in rebels (a show created by one of obi wans producers dave filoni) has Leia never telling ghost team of obi wan. Why? We know why - because no content, for literally decades, up until this point has ever considered this shows newly conceived plot. Christ, don't get me started on Palpatine of all people telling Vader to calm down... I'm sorry. I simply dont care if people like it - it just shouldn't exist and It solely depends that the viewers just straight up forget, live in blissful ignorance, denial or attempt to rationalise to an unfathomable degree. I think I need to give up on Star Wars. It's not healthy.

[@artimusclyde7812]

The biggest issue I had with the show was how easily the Empire would be able to connect the Organa’s to Kenobi. Leia, daughter of Organa, was captured by the inquisitors and Kenobi is coming out of hiding to save her. I feel like in this scenario, it doesn’t matter if Kenobi is successful or not in saving Leia. The Organa’s would be immediately compromised and interrogated/ killed by the Empire. Idk if I missed something in particular but it seems like a massive oversight by the the writers.

[@johnavi]

Dude. You are honestly a good content creator here on the tube. Keep it up mate! Enjoy your videos.

[@ratmdex]

It's like you took all my thoughts in my head and put it on film. This show was a hilarious blunder. They could have given a KZbin crew $5 Million and we would have had a better chance at a masterpiece worth telling

[@emrazum]

Haven't watched any Star Wars since Rogue One and that increasingly feels like it was a great decision, though I might watch parts of the Mandalorian at some point. Great video, you can make any content you want and we'll watch it.

[@SuperSucc69]

I'm not sure if you're aware of it, but there's a new series coming out soon called "Andor", made by the creators of Rogue One as a spin-off from the movie. Obviously we've only got the trailer to go by, but it looks promising

[@Ewokpilot65]

watch entire mandalorian you won't regret it, bobf and obi wan only some people liked though

[@chucklesandwichhighlights]

Good shit dude, Nailed it. Show was trash

[@Dario11457]

parachute accident is the funniest fucking joke of all time

[@hansolo5912]

Wtf do you mean with forced casting? 🤨

[@PaddyLonglegs]

Man gotta say this is your best video to date, all your videos are so thought out and entertaining but you found your new prime with that Vader tutting bit- I was HOWLING ;D

[@halikarnak1862]

I heard this show went through many rewrites before production, and this is what they settled on?

[@saricubra2867]

That's a pattern with Kathleen Kennedy. I would love an AI bot rather than that woman as a producer for the franchise

[@Ssm19494]

This show honestly ruined SW for me once and for all

[@nlbite]

I don’t think you mentioned Vader saying “have you come to kill me Obi-Wan? “when he’s the one arriving on the planet going to kill Obi-Wan. What the fuck was that? Are you projecting Vader? Did no one proofread this script?

[@charlie_coombs]

Hey Jack, just wanted to say your videos popped up on my TV and I watched like, six of them and assumed your channel had at least 1M subs. When I subbed on my desktop I couldn't believe you weren't up their with the biggest. I have no doubt whatsoever that you will be soon! Keep up the amazing content man and thank you!

[@JackSather]

Wow Thank you!!

[@CoolCatCam77]

My favorite thing is how Ewan and Hayden did all of the interviews a promoting of the show yet weren’t even the main characters of the fucking show.