The WORST Version of Windows

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Chapter Titles
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0:00 Hello and Welcome
0:22 Windows 2000
1:48 Windows ME
2:47 Windows Phone
4:02 Windows Vista
5:25 Windows ’95
6:08 Windows 10
7:06 Windows NT
7:42 Windows 7
8:48 Windows Mobile
9:15 Windows 8
10:00 Windows 365
11:02 Windows 1.0
11:45 Windows 11
13:00 Windows ’98
14:15 Windows CE
14:58 Final Tier List

[@windowsexpert5039]

Listen, Windows 7 is S tier! Hands down! “I’ve never used windows 7 before” I can guarantee you’ve used it and didn’t even notice (ATMs, SelfCheckouts, etc…) fantastic OS!

[@EpicEmberOriginal]

Agreed. I grew up with XP and 7 but 7 was a noticeable upgrade. It was rock solid.

[@irrigamii]

Windows 7 was truly an S tier operating system. It is the last Windows version to have a skeuomorphic design, the first version to have a double-height taskbar, the sound design, although borrowed from Vista, is still amazing, and just so much more. The last truly good WIndows version in my eyes.

[@windowsexpert5039]

@@irrigamii agreed

[@Wedeemgaming]

Windows 7 was up there as far as the best windows os!

[@buildyourcomputer]

Why is 7 better than 10? I can't recall the last blue screen I had in 10, I feel like I had more in 7. (I have extensively used them in my sys admin role) I can't comment on sound, I turn off sounds immediately or they drive me crazy.

[@quantumleaper]

I disagree a lot with the grade your giving Window 2000, in the years of using Win2K, it NEVER crashed, other than when I had a program I had to write for a class I was taking. The program would have crashed ANY NT-based Windows but the Teacher and other students were using Win95 or Win98 with had no problem with the program we had to write. I liked Window 2000 better than Win95, 98, or Me and even older versions of NT before 2K. I have used every Windows version since Win 3.11...

[@michaeltadros3151]

Username fits

[@gary6576]

I agree. There is also still a community of people using it today.

[@Matthewss87]

Windows 2000 was the most stable version I have ever used and I am nostalgic for it

[@jody19027]

Opinions may vary. Let’s all just get along. Windows 2000 is what my store used when I worked there in 2020 it was slow sometimes but seemed to get the job done ✅

[@gary6576]

@@jody19027 NO WIN 2000 MASTER RACE PURGE ALL THE SUB-OPERATING SYSTEMS

[@gemmychris]

You forgot to include Windows RT. An ARM based version of Windows 8 that couldn’t run any exe files and can only run apps from the Microsoft store.

[@licksludgee]

Might have also missed server, and before I get yelled at people were still using server 2003 virtual machines to access databases even just a couple of years ago

[@CheapBastard1988]

G-tier

[@2501.]

Windows 8 S

[@christopherwilliams9418]

I remember one time when I was moving I had to get rid of a bunch of my Apple stuff because I couldn't afford to take it with me and a guy offered me what I was told was a Surface Pro 2 and $100. He got 3 iMac G3s and an eMac for this... Far too late I realized this was not a Surface Pro 2 but a Surface 1. Original Surface. No 2, no Pro, no x86 compatibility, Windows RT. I messed with it for like a week, threw it in a drawer and only recently gave it away to somebody, lol.

[@C-Midori]

Oh yeah, that one SUCKED.

[@sarah1390]

Y'all missing Windows 2 and windows 3. I first was introduced to windows during windows 3.1. Then we killed that computer trying to upgrade to windows 95 then got it partially working with windows 98. Though my father accidentally killed the CD drive trying to retrieve the information so we can get a driver for it.

[@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339]

They also missed Windows 98se.

[@hunterw2311]

I was so used to 3.1 when we upgraded to 95, there was a way to make it look like 3.1 so that is what I did.... before 3.1 all I knew was dos... sometimes watching this channel, I forget how old I am until they state something that I grew up on that they know nothing about haha

[@sarah1390]

@@hunterw2311 Oh I know that feeling. I wish I could remember some of the computers that I used at school. For a while there I would get my cursive writing done ahead of time so I could use the computer (I owned the book that we were using for the cursive writing examples). It feels so weird being around the younger generation now. I also remember using 8 track players in my dad's shop, Listening to records as a family nostalgia night, Cassette tapes and VHS. Nowadays it just feels wrong when everyday KZbinrs use these technologies as part of their storylines and I can tell when they are not using it at all but there for the visual.

[@SupernaturalArts826]

Yeah, but they’ve never used those versions of Windows and really there isn’t much to say cuz there very old and limited.

[@kitnoman]

I think the only reason why windows 8 came is due to microsoft''s desired to compete with handhelds/touch screens and made a wrong decision to bake tablet/phone/computer into one base OS. I mean even Apple who's known to favor simplicity and easier usage for consumer separated the OS of their iphones and mac. The OS I've used are 98, XP, ME(at school), 7 and currently 10. XP and 7 are definitely tied as highest tier for me.

[@crestofhonor2349]

That was the time when some people though smart phones and tablets would replace laptops and desktops. So Microsoft tried to get ahead of the curve and put out windows 8. Of course we all know what happened after that, smartphones and tablets just made their own place in the market and didn’t replace your traditional desktop or laptop. Of course this is also how we got hybrid laptops that can function as a tablet or a laptop. The surface line is a remnant of that era of thinking that has survived. Even the Surface RT got a late successor in the form of the Surface Pro X

[@kitnoman]

@@crestofhonor2349 and I don't doubt that it will happen some time in the future. The same way as smart phones, specifically the fist iphone, combine, a phone, video player, mp3 player, etc into one device, we are going to get a future device where it would combine all the functionality of a phone/tablet and a laptop and get one general mobile device. We just don't have the hardware power and technology yet. But the mistake microsoft made with windows 8 is that they got lazy, or at least it was a lazy attempt. Even Android and IOS have a different version for tablet and phone. Just take apple, there are a lot of people who dislike apple as a brand and their closed ecosystem. But even them, can't deny the beauty of how iphone, ipad and mac's IOS and MacOS works with each other

[@WJCuffe]

Don't forget, Microsoft was saying Windows 10 was to be the last version of the OS. That's another part of the reason for the backlash to Windows 11. 11's release was such an about face for what Microsoft had be saying for the previous six years it's no wonder users are embittered.

[@TheTytan007]

Microsoft said nothing, it was just an engineer not having any impact at the company's policy

[@jdw715]

@@TheTytan007 It was a Microsoft employee who said it and MS didn't correct it if was he wrong.

[@K31TH3R]

Vista in my experience was like this: Vista on old/outdated/slow hardware, especially slow HDD's: F tier. Vista on a high spec machine for the time with fast storage: A tier, encroaching on S tier after SP1. After having participated in the Windows "Longhorn" beta, I was fully onboard with Vista and bought it immediately when it was released. I installed it on an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 8GB of RAM, nVidia 8800 GTX, SoundBlaster X-Fi Platinum, and 2x74GB WD Raptors in RAID 0, which was god-tier hardware at the time. It did have a few teething issues in the first few months where an occasional BSOD was not out of the question mainly due video drivers and the desktop UI requiring GPU acceleration, but it became flawless for me after a few updates. Once SP1 rolled around I was just in love with the OS. With the right hardware, despite it admittedly being bloated, it was still extremely fast (I/O performance was exponentially better than Windows XP) and it was just gorgeous to look at. With fast enough hardware, Vista could get you the Windows 7 experience before Windows 7 existed. I'll always be fond of Vista and will defend it (to some extent) as a very decent OS despite it being an absolute pig on low spec machines. Vista's poor performance reputation was mainly due to people installing it on slow HDD's, fast storage is completely transformative for performance with Vista. I'd also encourage anyone who has bad memories of Vista to try installing it on an older machine with an SSD, you may have your mind changed about Vista being slow.

[@mattotto9949]

Even though I loved XP and grew up with it, I recognised the generational leap to Windows 7. Windows 7 did alot of things right, so right in fact most of its submenus can still be found in Windows 10/11 (sound panel). Granted, I can't remember if XP was the same way, but this became more and more nested with the newer iterations, and that's why it really irks me that Windows moved to W11.

[@fredericksweet]

Ohh now that makes me feel old. We had windows 3.1 and previous. Hell I had a cad unit with 3.1 on it and nobody knew how to use it since they were raised on 2000 and xp.

[@profosist]

Most of this goes back to Win2K

[@thebasketballhistorian3291]

I really feel they chose XP because it's the OS of their childhood and so they have so much nostalgia for it. Neither of them ever used '95 or '98 (left guy wasn't even alive yet). Probably Win 7 makes them think of doing high school and university homework. And Win 10 was when they were working adults already.

[@tobiwonkanogy2975]

i would honestly be down to use the simple operating systems if modern internet and security were upkept. the modern stuff is essentially the same core with many additions and layers to not break the older stuff.

[@reuven2010]

Performance wise XP was superior , might be still the best windows up to today performance wise , I ran it all the way until 2016 or something, until games stopped supporting it .

[@williamsmith169]

As someone who was an IT technician during the entire lifespan of it - XP Was B tier, AT BEST. I still have nightmares about the Fischer Price interface. UGH!

[@princekagato]

That's why it took me a while to get used to it. My first impression of XP was that it looked liked it was designed for a toddler.

[@profosist]

XP pre SP2 was awful, however people remember running ti for so many years after on overkill hardware they they forget.

[@Free3Thinkers]

Can change it to silver

[@LionWithTheLamb]

@@Free3Thinkers Also Olive, Royale, and Royale Noir. Other's have mentioned the Zune theme that was orange, I forgot about that one as almost nobody used it.

[@ARandomInternetUser08]

Hot take, and a pretty bad one.

[@BayareaXotics]

I’m using Windows 11 on my laptop. I briefly remember using Vista and XP when I was younger. Never really looked into it but now I remember! Windows 7 is what I really used so i loved it.

[@twiztedclown]

7 was just a nice upgraded version of xp xp was OG elite.

The worst thing about the start screen on Windows 8, was that it was also included in Windows Server 2012.

[@9852323]

Windows XP and 7 are untouchable. Hands down the two best versions of windows ever.

[@iant9534]

I would agree but also add in windows 98 even though you had to re-install it every few months

[@zurkke]

@@iant9534 98 SE, not the base one. It is the best 9x Windows. So for me the triad of best Windows OS are 98 SE, XP and 7. 10 did get close, but only the unbloated LTSC version.

[@linuxfabrication9074]

Windows 98 SE (USB Support) Windows XP, Windows 7 (lite)

[@michaelwight9851]

Xp sp2

[@zurkke]

@@michaelwight9851 SP3, actually

[@vihaanparikh4604]

Austin and Matt really showing off how old they are rn ngl

[@ewangudgeon6913]

A little sad not to hear a Dreamcast shout out when talking about CE, even if was wasn't well supported by devs still one of the cooler things that used CE imo.

[@exturkconner]

Vista's was a pretty good OS. The issues it had were mostly that it was ahead of it's time and despite being ahead of it's time (in the sense of the resources it needed to function well) they still turned on all of the 3d effects, and transparency effects, and animations as the default. Those should have been optional settings with people who had high end hardware it shouldn't have been the default for slogging along on 2 core i5 laptops. In a lot of ways windows 7 was a stripped down version of Vista. And a lot of what we ended up getting back in windows 10 was already present in Vista. That OS was damned good. It just didn't work on the hardware of the time very well.

[@raspberryquake935]

Loving win 8 till this day

[@infidelgaming1670]

🤢 Vista and 8 are the worst

[@penguinsniper155]

Im sorry for your loss

[@raspberryquake935]

@@penguinsniper155 that's like the most reddit thing to say what's next win 7 is the best 😭 Buncha little haters

[@TimothyCollins]

Personally I still miss my windows phone. I could see at a glance of the home screen the statuses of all my apps, it was fast and responsive and I loved Cortana as the assistant. There were things in that I still have yet to get on Android or iOS.

[@fakhrizzaarrifi9375]

There is a windows phone launcher that mimic 90 percent windows phone at a glance experience... But you must pay to have glance

[@Manganization]

I greatly miss it too. It was a simple OS without bloat and you didn't have to worry about slowdowns and it was a better version and a less cumbersome version of IOS' design philosophy. It's a shame that it didn't take off.

[@fiverZ]

Windows Phone lives Matter ✊ Feels unfair how they judged the entire OS in this video purely on whether or not Google officially supported their apps on it. Emphasis on officially as Google servers did work no problem with either Microsoft or third party solutions.

[@Jackikins]

For me, Windows 11 is fucking amazing. The "Multiple Desktop" thing is so damn good. It added something that I ACTUALLY use. Running a Minecraft server and having it minimized is irritating. Having a seperate desktop enviroment that I can switch to, open it, start it up and then just leave it there. Godly. If they added that back to Win10, that's pretty cool, but my dumb ass adopted Windows 11 esentially day 1, even knowing all of the issues it had. Maybe I'm lucky as hell, but the only issue I ever had with Windows 11 was changing the default browser.

[@walllable]

From what I remember, Windows 10 had multiple desktops since day 1.

[@MrMega200]

Multiple Desktop is a feature that has been on Linux since 2009 and possibly before then. That's my experience with Ubuntu Linux from back in the day.

[@xcalium9346]

@@MrMega200 Linux is dogshit for most people though. You can't even say it has terrible UX because all the neckbeards will tell you to "jUSt UsE CoMmAnD LiNe" and then in the same sentence ask "Why hasn't this been adopted by the masses yet". And yes, your "Windows Equivalent" distros are still meh at best. I don't hate Linux on its own but get out of here pretending it's a competitor to MacOS or Windows

[@hemangkorane1797]

​@@xcalium9346🗿

[@MinecrafterPictures]

My rank of all mainstream Windows versions is like this (lower=worse, unreleased versions included, variants of various versions (Windows XP x64 Edition, Windows XP SP1, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 7 Home Premium, etc.) merged per version): Windows XP (because of the cool-looking Windows Media Center Edition variants) Windows 7 (my personal NT version overall) Windows 10 Windows 3.1 Windows 2000 Windows 8.1 Windows 98 (my personal favorite 9x family version) Windows 95 Windows 8 Windows 3.0 Windows 2 Windows 1 Windows NT 4.x Windows Vista Windows ME Windows NT 3.x (OG Windows NT) Windows Neptune Windows Odyssey Windows Cairo

[@DeputyBurbank]

With each version of windows, Microsoft scraps the core apps and gives you a “new version” which inevitably as half the features of the old version. Over time they slowly update this new app but then suddenly stop. So you’re left with incomplete apps. To this day they still do that. Mail and calendar on windows 10/11 are essentially base level jank apps with 1/4 of the features of the mail and calendar suits of windows in the past. Same goes for movie maker which today is “video editor” with less features than movie maker. Then there is groove which is essentially an abandoned music player. Etc etc etc. you get the idea. Meanwhile, apple just keeps BUILDING INTO their existing apps and making them better each year. I don’t know why Microsoft keeps trying to reinvent everything, instead of just making what they have better. Wait, there is one Microsoft software which has been built into over decades, but now it’s a bloated janky mess: MS Office. Instead of cleaning up menus and removing old interfaces they just throw new ones next to it. Ok, I goes no matter what Microsoft does, it’s crap. Why? It’s run by morons.

[@ayena-real]

That's what all Americans say lol

[@ArchusKanzaki]

Because they are catering for everyone. From soggy old people who have been there since the days of Windows 9x and really wants their Control Panel, to the millenials who wants things to looks nice, shiny, and minimalist. If you really want to dig into it, they still have those things. Its just not shown in the front panel anymore. Outlook have so much features that it really feels clunky to use, with all those Options hidden in the background. The thing I kinda hate about Apple, is their philosophy of "my way or get out". If Apple decided that something you want are not things you need, then you are in one hell of a pain. In Windows, everything can be toggled by the right registry key if needed. In Apple, it basically do not exist and you are told "Sorry. It do not exist. You either follow our recommended way, or go somewhere else", which can be very frustrating to deal with.

[@elfedorausado]

Dude, I MISS Movie Maker. I used to make videos in minutes using that program! Granted, there are better solutions out there, but if you wanted to do the bare minimum in a jiffy, it had no equal. As for groove, I delete it on any fresh Windows 10 install I do. Haven't used MS Office for years now. I install WPS which covers 90% of what MS Office does, it's lighter, has an integrated PDF reader and it's free! That subscription nonsense to use a word processor is ridiculous. Sometimes I wonder if I should switch to Mac, but am too lazy to begin learning a new OS from scratch. Some Linux distros seem interesting, but none have made me switch yet

[@QuantumScratcher]

transitions were in movie maker but now you have to use straight cuts

[@xcalium9346]

What I don't get is why don't they just reskin stuff? Surely that's easier than redoing everything from scratch and leaving the old shit in there anyway? I think there are like 5 different ways to uninstall apps on Win 11, each one from a different Windows

[@SIPEROTH]

As an old user i think Windows 3.1 were quite the big thing. It was basically the first step to Windows 95. Sure Windows 3.0 first introduced colours etc but they were too buggy and unstable with little memory support. Windows 3.1-Windows 3.11 is were the whole coloured graphical interface became really usable. I used Windows 3.1 and i remember you could even use a mouse as well it was the first look to Windows as we know.

[@MrAtda]

Win2k was S tier for me. The incessant crashes were gone, easier to maintain... the fact it didn't drop for home users was such crap.

[@ritsukasa]

I agree. W95 was so important, but because all the crashes it made w2000 and xp excelent.

[@roryblackmore2328]

Love this video, y'all gotta do this for all the major Mac OS versions

[@anumeon]

I decided to jump to win 11 from my 10 pro a few weeks ago. And i have to say. some things are really, really nice with 11 vs 10.. Takes a while to get used to mind you. But with a few tweaks here and there it becomes good..

[@VAPINGGEEK]

the first windows i used was 98, then jumped to XP then to 7, i remember having a CD with the name 701 Juegos (701 games) which had more than 701 btw and it had paperboy, some alien stuff earthworm jim but the bad part that i can't remember why, i never played the same game more than twice, maybe because the names were weird or something but i do remember when i played a game and liked it, probably would not play it again in my life

[@TiffanyLouann]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate Windows XP for SECOND? as soon as Austin played that startup sound I immediately was taken back. Literally I started crying. Austin, you have played the sound of my people

[@gary3801]

Yeah, I'm going to need you to work this weekend on those TPS reports, that would be great.

[@paultasker7788]

XP. I like the colour scheme and the ease of use. It also still worked with network gaming. Definitely a good upgrade.

[@profosist]

Best theme was the orange and black Zune theme.

[@undrpaidtekmnky143]

I feel like 98 and 98 SE(though an argument could be made that SE was just kind of a service pack update) should be treated separately. I remember running 98 when it first came out and I hated it the entire time. Then my school got some new systems with SE on them and it kind of felt like night and day.

[@TakaG]

8 and 8.1 should be separate too. just the inclusion of the start button bumps it slightly up on the tier list.

[@LionWithTheLamb]

My PC at the time ran Windows 95 OSR2.5 preloaded. I tried to upgrade to 98, always blue screened. I tried to (for testing) see if just normal 98 full would install. It also crashed while loading. Windows 98 SE loaded and ran fine without a single issue. This PC was a IBM Aptiva with AMD K6 200Mhz , 24MB PC-66 (Upgraded to 64MB PC-100), 2.1GB Quantum Bigfoot, Delta 24x CD-ROM, Crystal "3D Wavetable" Audio onboard, ATI 3D Rage II+ 2MB SVGA onboard, and a K56 Flex Rockwell ISA Modem. This system just really hated Windows 98.

[@joshuawoodbridge6267]

I agree with everything except '95 because it was so revolutionary and had all the classic windows games, so many pinball games

[@gmoss101]

I was born in 99 and my first computer experience was on XP, we got a PC (which was probably refurbished) that had it when I was about 5 or 6 and I played the hell out of Crazy Drake (which was on it somehow) and Space Cadet Pinball. It might be the best OS I've ever used. Still use the Bliss wallpaper after all these years as well. Using Windows 11 is occasionally a pain though. I don't like how dark mode changes your accent color to the lighter version which you can't turn off, or the fact that you can't hide the recommended files section on the start menu which just takes up space if you have it off. There's also a bug that is terrible on laptops where if you don't have an app in the "overflow" section, the whole action center is just gone. Empty space. No battery, WiFi, or sound.

[@CotyRiddle]

Explorer patcher will fix that up for you

[@bayareanewman1566]

So I worked for 3Com when Win 2K was released. It was never meant for normal non. corporate users. It was super stable because it was based on NT. Yes XP was based on the code base a couple years later, but they were 2 completely different animals.

[@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339]

The first computer I had ever built was made from parts from 5 junk computers. I put Windows Me on it and it was the most stable P.C. in the house even over my brother's computer which he built from brand new parts and using Windows XP.

[@elfedorausado]

The only thing Windows 8 has ever been good for me, is when building low-tier desktop computers using old components (I sell budget computers in Venezuela). The fact that 8 is not that much heavier than 7 on hardware requirements, and that it's supported for 6 more months, makes it a viable alternative for this purpose

[@sifatullah7568]

Windows 8.1 is actually better in most (not all, but most, such as performance and more) cases than Windows 7. People just hated the UI and big metro apps. But everything else was an improvement over Windows 7. Windows 8.1 is also fastest and most resource efficient among 7, 8.1, 10 & 11.

[@ShiggitayMediaProductions]

I grew up primarily a Mac kid, but my school and all my friends ran Windows... and I remember using Windows 3.11 for Workgroups, of which wasn't mentioned... Why? It's was the stepping stone for Windows 95 in my eyes (IDK about code base), and its UI was quite interesting for the time. I'm curious what you guys on This Is would rank it.

[@elmntz1435]

Can you guys put this on Spotify or something id be down to listen to this as like a podcast

[@jaymietreadwell]

My experience is a bit different to most. In chronological-ish order: Windows 3.1/3.11 - limited but reliable, reliant on MS-DOS. B Windows NT 3.5 - compatibility issues. D Windows 95 - Not bad, built upon previous versions. B Windows NT 4.0 - compatibility issues, but an improvement. C Windows CE - Actually not bad. Serves purpose well. B Windows 98, 98SE - I liked it, even with its' moments. The launch was spectacularly controversial haha. B Windows ME - I actually didn't have any issues. A Windows 2000 - Was good in the correct environments. Did have compatibility issues though, and easily suffered from the Sasser virus (until patched). Don't know how other OSes handled. B Windows XP - Started out a bit rocky, but came good quickly, and is iconic. A Windows Vista - I actually didn't have any issues. It was slower than Windows 7 though. B Windows 7 - The most stable Windows OS I've ever used, no forced updates or forced telemetry. Widely compatible. S. Windows 8, 8.1 - WTF were they thinking? Metro UI, compatibility issues. F Windows 10 - Reliable, somewhat secure, but has issues with forced updates, telemetry, settings changing during updates which shouldn't be changing. B Windows 11 - I've not used it yet, but from what I've seen I'd give it B. Windows 365 - I've not used it yet. Factoring in pricing and from what I've seen, probably C. Separately - Windows Mobile & Phone - Not terrible, but not great. Limited app support, and now discontinued. Previously D, but now F.

[@hunterw2311]

I started with dos and my 1st windows was 3.1....

[@nicholaskehayias919]

this is exactly how i feel

[@hunterw2311]

Me was the worst...

[@jaymietreadwell]

@@grumpywolfgaming Funny you say that - ME was a daily driver for me for about a year before I moved onto XP. I was a late adopter for most Windows OS versions tbh

[@bituniverse8677]

I’ve daily driven Vista and it didn’t seem as bad as I heard. Granted, I was messing with old hardware and wasn’t a huge power user, but it worked fine and I love the early Aero look

[@Twintania]

same, I have Vista on a old gateway laptop since the sound card refuses to work properly with xp and Vista is very nice to use I plan on using it for xp era games

[@Dominator9572]

I definitely do not miss manually looking for drivers on Windows 98. Driver not working? Open look for driver, scan for driver (ALWAYS cannot find). Locate driver in system. NO NOT ON FLOPPY DRIVE!! Computer>cd drive>main folder>whatever comes up and HOPE IT WORKS!! Or find an embedded driver in windows that was similar, and cross your fingers. Then I got ME, I thought this has got to be better right???? Nah.

[@kobutah]

Windows Phone 7 didn’t even have cut and paste when released. You had to wait over 6 months to get an update for that basic function. Absolute failure.

[@dominicskywalker]

If you watch Linus’s video “Was Windows Vista really that bad?” You’ll know that it shouldn’t be in the D tier but C tier.

[@Chaosmite]

Even Linus said Vista is the worse launch history outside ME. When your OS causes customers to buy other OS competitions, then you failed.

[@dominicskywalker]

@@Chaosmite I’d agree, but given the context that it was the drivers that didn’t fully work it wasn’t entirely Vista’s fault

[@Chaosmite]

@@dominicskywalker, it kind of was. MS failed to give the driver companies heads up saying “here’s the new code we’re using” on time of the launch. Took years before it was a good OS, but by then the reputation was tarnished. Also the amount of time you had to hit allow to use any software was also annoying.

[@smush5653]

I'm with Austin, Vista was ok, can't say I had that much of an issue with it on my PC. Sometimes I wonder if the hate it got was just a herd mentality thing.

[@xx406]

No Vista sucks so hard

[@orca7134]

@@xx406 You don't know. You're probably just whining about it because you haven't used it.

[@orca7134]

Vista is okay, with SP2 and that stuff. Sleek and modern, unlike whatever the hell Windows 11 is.

[@fiverZ]

Herd mentality, yes 100%. I'd say the vast majority of people that hate on it never actually used it.

[@crestofhonor2349]

Vista is better than 8. Not sure about 8.1 as I’ve never used it

[@Goigigandfriends]

My dad got a vista computer from Costco the day it released it was an HP I believe and I absolutely loved it the memories I had using it were incredible with widgets and getting pong on the desktop as a kid was incredible also shoutout to all the guys who setup pong to go in the infinite loop and letting it be your system uptime!

[@Compman007]

Yeah his PC was likely built for Vista! The BIGGEST issue with vista was when people upgraded....... XP had such a long lifespan that when vista came out people tried to upgrade computers that should never have tried to run Vista........ Like they may have had a PC that they upgraded to XP from 98 that they then tried to upgrade to Vista..... and even the people who had a 5+ year old XP designed machine would have bad luck upgrading to Vista, that was the biggest reason that "Vista Sucked" If the PC was designed for Vista or was pretty recent then it ran fine

[@itsmrotaku]

I want to see you two do a Wu-Tang Clan Ranking

[@Caropractor]

Matt, I’m glad you got in the spotlight, you’re hilarious

[@austinevans]

hello matt's second account

[@cap1130]

@@austinevans lol

[@cap1130]

@@austinevans is it really?

[@9852323]

Windows 8.1 wasn’t THAT bad. You could install classic shell and its basically like an updated faster version of Windows 7. Really…the ui is basically windows 7 without aero, especially with a proper start menu replacement. But I know most people aren’t willing to see past the horrible start menu.

[@PunkR0ckz09]

XP and 7 ARE S-tier for sure, I'd put 98 alongside 95, in the A-tier, because I didn't notice a major change personally in them, although 98 was more "tech-y", more "pro-y", and you had to relearn a few things (as mentionned), I don't recall much in the way of UI changing from 95 to 98, but then again, its been 25 years now so my memory might be bad, I was just a kiddo at the time using Windows computers to play cereal box CDs, surfing the internet and doing very generic stuff. I started using a computer when I was 8, my first version was 95 when it was 1 year old or so, then upgraded to 98, XP, 7 and lately to 10 due to my boss updating our CAD software and needing to update Windows as well for it to work properly otherwise I would still be running 7...but I grew to accept 10 lol. I used a lot of the others as well, but never for longer than a month for various reasons, so I feel like the rest feels pretty fair, 2K should've been a B in my opinion but thats it xD

[@goosebyte]

Should have included the service packs... 98 base = f tier, sp2 = a-b tier. Vista is similar.

[@Twintania]

I don't watch this channel a lot but I didn't realize he had a format with a guest like this

[@franci2a]

I love how people always overlook the biggest problems about 11, and do touch up continuously on the same three points: System requirements which can be bypassed, no offline accounts which can be bypassed, telemetry stuff which can be disabled. Yet no one talks about the lack of "every detail matters", the lack of updates in countless areas of the system which can be so easily updated, the lack of consistent design in even the new stuff, and updates not addressing the real problems but introducing each time meaningless stuff basically.

[@profosist]

Your describing microsoft's updates since the start of Win8

[@JamiePineappleWyatt]

Having been a photocopier technician in the past, "Office Space" was an absolutely comforting movie, especially that one scene when they gutter stomp that thing in that place. CE is still used on POS today, fuck I hate it.

[@panagiotispappas1001]

Windows 7 is S tier and you can't change my mind. Vista walked so 7 can run!

[@jeremyrobles6245]

NICE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!

[@dappermuis5002]

10 for me was a dumpster fire from day one. When it came out it wouldn't even work on my pc, even though the specs were more than enough. I could install it, but nothing worked. Was just a glorified paperweight. Went back to 8.1 and stuck with that till a forced hardware upgrade forced me on to 10 as it didn't have drivers for 8.1. Then 9 months of hell, including constant reinstalling and also having my some of my data deleted with out my permission. yes I was one of the 'lucky' few with that bug. I eventually couldn't take it any more and ditched windows all together. And went over to linux. major learning curve and a few hiccups. But Windows had gotten to the point for me, that Linux for my needs, had less hassles than windows. Nearly 3 years on and I still have my sanity, which I would have lost if I was still stuck on 10. The one work pc still has 10 on it and it drives me nuts even now. There have been sound issues. Fixed it, an update happened and now I have no sound again. I have to have the task manager permanently pinned to the task bar. Just so some of my programs will work or to get them unstuck. Printing now is an issue. That's been 'fun' not! Thankfully the other laptop I've got Linux on it and have been using it for most of my things and only use the other when I have no choice. All I do is check the emails and send invoices on the windows one. And the only reason the e-mails are still on it, is I need it for sending the invoices. And we are stuck using windows in that regard as the invoicing program only works in windows.

[@johnflapper]

When I got my Vista laptop, they were including 7 before 7 came out. They mailed a disc years later, I think I still have it sealed

[@Tigerius]

I just hate that with every update getting to simple stuff like volume or configuration manager, gets harder and harder

[@hermdude]

The number 9 wasn't used due to an obscure superstition that the 9th iteration is cursed, all the way back from symphonies. Beethoven died after composing Symphony no. 9 (the one Ode to Joy is based off from), Dvorak as well with his New World Symphony (which is also Symphony no. 9), etc. So you would see many companies skip that number.

[@theyjustwantyourmoney4539]

Windows installing updates, do not turn off your computer, I don't give a sheet if you're about to submit your college assignment 😡😈

[@xerxesYt123]

Ask arcade managers/owners or employees, they've most likely seen windows CE on old arcade cabinets. Ive seen the startup sequence of all machines when they boot up the entire arcade here in a mall near me, most of it is now running s stripped down version of windows 7 where CMD would open, then do its system checks, then start the game for that cabinet

[@cardsfanbj]

Lol, never had to use 2000/ME. My dad stood in line and bought Windows 98 and for our family computer we had no need to buy another license to upgrade (because upgrades weren't free like they have been since 10's release). Used that PC until it wasn't fast enough to run whatever limited games we played or even basic web browsing and we upgraded to XP. My first laptop was Vista and I had zero problems with it and never understood the hate for it. I later learned the problems stemmed from the Dells and HPs and others were selling machines labeled as "Vista ready" when they were actually lacking the horsepower to actually run it.

[@joshjacobson9846]

Same. I only used Vista on an Acer that was released as a Vista machine. Never had an issue.

[@JGS123WRPTP]

98SE was a huge jump in progression... But not having to reboot every time you wanted to change your IP address was v welcome.

[@sburton015]

I remember when I was talking a computer class in college back in 2003 and the professor said that there were many versions of Windows out there, there's Windows 3.x, Window 95, Windows 98, Windows NT, Windows 2K, and now we have Windows XP. Also they are working on a new version called Longhorn. I then asked him "Well, what about ME, Windows ME?" He then said "oh don't even mention that to me, I don't want to even hear about Windows ME".

[@UbiMortus]

What are those "high specs" for W11 anyway? I am running it on a mini-pc: DELL Optiplex 5070 (i5-10th gen T version, 8 gigs of RAM and 256 SSD. Also while playing Minecraft Java on it...

[@cadenchurchill4296]

Wow, I didn’t even know that Windows 365 was a thing somehow. Plus I probably would have given Windows 7 S tier along with XP. 10 is a definite A, quite enjoyed that OS, but XP is just so nostalgic for me. That was massive throughout my childhood. Windows 8 was on my first personal laptop and I enjoyed having something radically different to play with, but so little of the changes to the UI actually made sense. Especially before 8.1 and 8.1 Update doing pretty much anything was a nightmare. Literally the first and only time I embarrassingly had to ask my mom how to turn off my computer 😬🤦‍♂️

[@profosist]

Its also a way for companies to still nun Win7 safely.

[@marktemple3353]

IDK Austin, Windows ME(Whistler) was bad but it was fixable as well (reg hacks). I work in IT and I had a laptop that ran ME good enough for Warcraft and Roller Coaster Tycoon without too many issues except the network card driver was an issue. My FAVORITE OS of all time had to be Win2000. Easy to work with, little bloatware to deal with and very customizable.

[@vampjoseph]

I still miss the video wallpapers in vista. Also, the two reasons I refuse to upgrade to Windows 11 are 1) I don't want to spend all of that money to have a windows version of a Mac and 2) The amount of data collection that goes under the hood creeps me out. You don't need that much of my data to sell to a third party for marketing. We've gotten too complacent about online privacy. It's time we clawed some back!

[@jayster3.0]

I’m one of the 4% of Windows users who use Windows 7, one of the 80% who use 10, and my parents are one of the 1% who use 11. Also, I use Windows XP on my Virtual Machine I run on the same device as my Windows 7.

[@justsumguy2u]

Windows 2000 gets an F from me. They wasted the NT kernel by making it as compatible with new programs and new internet technologies as 9x was....which was quite poor. As proof; XP debuted just a year later, and you can still use it online even in 2022; you can't get online with 2000 any more than you could with 9x. Or in other words, it was dated even when it was released

[@gamingcorner107]

WINDOWS VISTA FOR LIFE STILL USE IT ON MY OLD LAPTOP AND IT RUNS BETTER THAT 7 8 10 AND 11

[@yourihogeboom1341]

windows 11 basically made us all bored using our pc now

[@Matthew27567]

I remember when Windows Phone was announced thinking that it was going to end up being a huge success because it would be like having a windows computer in your pocket

[@techyrock]

Are you kidding me? Windows Mobile gets B when you gave Windows Phone 7 a D?

[@DrVernSFC]

Being what you guys might say, Old AF. I can tell you Windows wasn't worth owning prior to 3.1. DOS dominated until then. Windows 95 was eventually good, but had massive issues with DOS conversion...Windows 98 was the Best until XP. I stayed XP until 7 and still run 10. Early Windows came out before brand dominance was firmly established, and was clunky and not entirely user friendly until 3.0, but 3.1 was much better...2 cents from an old nerd

[@aravkilak]

I'll be talking about only the Mainstream Consumer PC versions of Windows. The most I've used will be 7 and 10, both the great versions according to me, well except for XP, can't forget that. I don't have any cons for them like literally. They're just too great in my opinion. Microsoft did nail it with them. And I suppose much can be said about them and we all know that. 7 was a polished and neater Vista, it greatly simplified using computers for the masses and many people learnt to use computers on it along with XP. 10 combined the best of 7 with the modernity of 8.x. All of them were reliable, rock-stable and hugely compatible and to mention, easy to use versions. All of them were the most popular, long and widely used versions of Windows. I am currently using 11, I'll just say it's neat given all the backlash. Windows did restore the character it lost with 8.x which for a bit continued into 10 too. It's that to 10 like what 7 was to Vista in my opinion. Although I'm against the high system requirements. It just makes 10 more modern and gives Windows a new, modern character which was much needed. I've momentarily used 2000 as a kid and got to admit, it was rock solid in terms of stability, had a neat UI for the time. I'll say it combined the best of 9x, plug and play with the stability of NT. I've also used Vista, I was a fan back in the day and still am a stan. It was the beginning of Windows as we see it today. It had a fresh, groundbreaking UI even though it was a tad unstable, I admit, pre Service Pack 1. I loved it just cause of the way it looked and by the way it still looks so futuristic. Post the Service Packs, I'd say it got the 7's stability and reliability. My 2006 laptop ran it pretty well. Then comes the 8.x fiasco. Even though I don't hate it being a Keyboard and Mouse user, I'd say it was the time when Windows lost its character. The solid colors kind of seemed bland but the full screen apps, in my opinion were kind of stocky feeling, even though I liked and given all the backlash. I got to admit, I did take some time getting used to it but in my opinion it wasn't all that bad. It did give a more modern approach to Windows that did continue in 10. Then comes XP in my book which I didn't get my hands on back in the day when it was glorious. I'd say it was absolutely ground breaking for the time. I used it pretty recently, when I was resurrecting my old PC to fetch some memories and data out of it's old Hard Drives. It was just too freaking good. It, like 2000, combined the best and worst of 9x with the NT and this time for the masses at a reasonable price. Now I'll talk about 95 and 98. I got my hands on them cause of all the retro and nostalgia. They were ground breaking for the time. This was the time when Windows attained popularity given the simple and easy to use UI with fabulous marketing. Plug and Play was first introduced with them, which is a huge deal. It simplified computers, made them attainable and usable to the masses. 98 was pretty much a continuation of 95 in my opinion. Same goes for NT 4 in my opinion for the professional world but at a slightly higher cost in my opinion, even though I didn't use it. Then come 1.x and 2.x. In my opinion, they did start the GUI revolution, but lacked some simplicity back in the day. They were a great deal historically but for the time, Windows was just a shell that ran atop MS-DOS. It just made MS-DOS more fancy and easier to use, but lacked the desired simplicity. Also instead of the single-click and double-click, as we know them today, we needed to hold down the left click for any context menu and then hover the cursor over the desired option or button and then leave the left-click to select that option, the same for right click. Back in the day, left and right clicks didn't have much of a difference in functionality making it ergonomically less-simple. Now come 3.x and it's NT counterparts. I used them too because of all the nostalgia. This was when Windows first got the character, which it still has today. Networking was greatly simplified. For the first time icons were used. It had a much better looking GUI. Compatibility, Reliability and Stability was also hugely improved. This was when Windows also got its structure set up. It was the first mass-used version. Even though it too lacked some of the simplicity of the subsequent 9x family. It was also the time when MS-DOS was much more tightly integrated into Windows like in the 9x family and Windows didn't seem like a graphical shell that ran atop MS-DOS like the 1.x and 2.x. It seemed like my childhood. Now, much can and can't be said about ME. I didn't use it all as I went the 2000-route back in the day. All I can say is that, even though it was unreliable, it did introduce a whole lot of long needed and undone important, new features like the movie-maker to the masses, the simpler e-mail client and not to forget the System-Restore, which still is the basis of going back to stability, today, in modern versions of Windows. It was the last 9x version. It seemed long in the tooth. It could have been revolutionary if Microsoft themselves could have paid more attention to it.

[@Terryhunt385]

I actually still have a very old desktop computer (built in 2000), that has Windows Vista as it's OS. I never upgraded to a new system, since I only use my laptop, tablet, phone, or consoles anymore. My old desktop also does the blue screen of death, so it is unplugged, and collecting dust.

[@alexanderudolf]

in 2009 I bought a win7 upgrade key for my old xp-system based on an athlon xp 2600+ and it worked without re-install. After 6 Month I bought a new Board, RAM and i7-860 and turned the system on, it worked, without re-install. I used this for years until I upgraded my harddrive.

[@Dunch0717]

so your telling me that as of the time this video was released there were more people using windows xp than people using windows 11

[@askme8592]

I was a teen when ME came out and I never had much of an issue from it using it for dial up internet and playing a couple games.

[@OneWithLogic]

I find it interesting you didn't go over any of the upgrades to WinCE. I remember my retail job ran an archaic POS terminal off of the Win7 version of WinCE

[@nietmijnechtenaam2477]

Win7 you talk about is probally the embedded version wich is different then ce

[@yingste]

@@nietmijnechtenaam2477 Likely POSready 7, it was very widely deployed. We still actually service some Windows CE devices for work but they are only as kitchen displays.

[@dangingerich2559]

I'm a sysadmin, and worked my way up from desktop support, and have been in computer support for 25 years. I've dealt with every version of Windows from 3.0 onward. It is VASTLY important to know that there are two branches of Windows: DOS based and NT based. Windows 2000, when it came out, was awesome. I was supporting a business with a Windows NT 4.0 network at the time. Win2k was so much more stable and had properly working PnP, and had software RAID functions. It was absolutely wonderful. At the time, it was one of the great moves forward. IMO, it was the biggest improvement MS made in Windows of all time. Windows XP was barely a move forward from Win2k. It just made the improvements from Windows 2000 available to the general public. Win2k is definitely A tier. Vista and WinMe are, by far, the worst. I'd say Vista was worse than WinMe from a usability point, and WinMe is far worse than Vista for stability. WinMe crashed CONSTANTLY, and I had to reinstall the OS on my gaming machine monthly because it would become so corrupted. It was horrible. Vista just would not work with far too much software and hardware, plus the UI changes were really annoying. Oh, the days of supporting that were so horrible, most people have no idea. I think they're both tied for F tier. They were nightmares. My S tier is Windows 98se and Windows 10, because those two were the best improvements for support. They're both the most stable versions of each branch, and the most usable from each branch. Windows 10 is so much more stable than any previous version. It's possible to leave it running for weeks. No previous version was able to do that. A lot of people also don't realize that OS/2 was a Microsoft product. IBM got MS to build it, and then bought it out when MS decided they weren't going to move forward with it. Still, it was Windows in many ways, kind of in between Windows 3.1 and Windows NT 3.51. Still, it was pretty majorly disappointing. It had so much potential, yet MS didn't do enough with it. From a professional point of view: S: Window 98se; Windows 10 A: Windows 95; Windows 2000; Windows 3.1 B: Windows 98; Windows 7; Windows XP C: Windows NT 4.0; Windows 8.1; Windows PE; Windows XP 64-bit D: OS/2; Windows NT 3.X; Windows 8; Windows Phone; Windows CE; Windows RT (ARM); Windows 11 F: Windows Me; Windows Vista

[@benzenegaming3199]

Out all of the Windows I've used (.99 beta to 11), NT 4.0, 95B, 98 SE, 2000, 7, 8.1, 11 are my favorite. 10 I hated cause they kept changing Settings so many times that the instructions Microsoft made for Windows 10 was made for other builds of 10 and not the current 10. Windows 11, I like cause the Settings menu is more clean than 10's version. 7, at first, was slow with running certain apps until SP1 then 2, it was great. I love 7 still. With Vista, as a beta tester, I found out that the retail release of Vista had all fht bugs put back in from the betas we tested. I have the RTM version from MS and Retail version and I looked through both of them and I found out the RTM had all the bugs removed and when the retail version was released (Which I got also), all the bugs are back. Vista was a very memory hog on both RAM and VRAM. I agree with Vista being bad at parts but good at parts. Windows NT 3.51 was my first Windows NT I had and it was Windows 3.1/3.11 for Workgroups but for Business side that was to connect corporate networks. I still run 3.51 on my Compaq DeskPro 3/25 and it still runs great. Windows 2000, I also loved cause I ran that for years and compatibility with apps and games were great. Never crashed on me at all. The other Windows (Which some might not know) that was so stable (For an Alpha Build) was Windows "Neptune". This was suppose to be the successor of Windows 2000 but Home Edition (Before XP) and "Odyssey" was the other Windows that was suppose to be released with "Neptune" but Microsoft decided to combine those two to make it become "Whister" aka Windows XP.

[@Anonymous-oh4xw]

Finally someone who knows about their Windows!

[@BrianCairns]

Vista wasn't intended to be a huge leap forward, and it didn't end up being one either. Vista was originally codenamed Longhorn, named after a pub at Whistler Mountain Resort in BC that sits between Whistler and Blackcomb mountains. XP was codenamed Whistler, and Blackcomb was supposed to be the major leap forward. Longhorn was intended to be an intermediate, more minor release. Everything went wrong with Longhorn. Microsoft attempted to rewrite a number of components in .NET, which tanked performance. The advanced new filesystem, WinFS, which was more like a database, never really worked. As the project got further behind schedule, teams kept making more ambitious changs. There were a ton of leaked Longhorn builds, some of which were completely unusable and all of which were unstable and buggy. It got so bad that in late 2004 Microsoft essentially threw out the entire product and started over with the Windows Server 2003 codebase (Server 2003 was essentially a cleaned up and improved version of XP). Although some code was ported from the original Longhorn codebase to the post reset codebase, ultimately most of what was shipped as Vista was either based on Server 2003 or developed in 2005 or 2006 and had no relation to the original Longhorn ideas. Blackcomb was cancelled and never saw any significant development. So, essentially Vista started as an incremental release, grew into a transformational release, went entirely off the rails, then was thrown out and rebooted as an incremental release. I still think that Vista gets an unfair bad rap. People say it was buggy, but I ran it starting with the beta and I always found it to be more reliable than XP. SP1 also fixed a lot of issues with Vista. The real problem with Vista was that it was just ahead of its time. You really needed at least 1GB of RAM, a dual core CPU, and a decent (non-Intel) GPU to make Vista run well. It also helped a lot to have an SSD, because the search features in Vista (and some other features like SuperFetch) had the unfortunate side effect of hitting your disk a lot. I owned a ThinkPad T61 with NVIDIA graphics (a low end Quadro NVS), 2GB of RAM and a 100GB 7200 RPM drive, and Vista ran great. This wasn't a crazy machine for 2007, I paid $1013 for mine new. But a lot of people tried to run Vista on lower end hardware, with too little RAM or a crap GPU or a slow CPU. Vista ran terribly on 2004 era hardware, a lot of which was still being used in 2007. What Microsoft needed to do was to essentially relaunch the product after the hardware caught up. Microsoft later ran an ad campaign where they showed people "Windows Mojave" (which was just Vista) and people seemed to like it. Ultimately know the Vista brand was so bad that Microsoft had to ditch it. The great irony is that Microsoft did actually kind of succeed at renaming Vista. Windows 7 actually wasn't very different from Vista SP1, but it went on to be arguably the most beloved version of Windows. Yeah, Windows 7 had some fixes and improvements (although a lot of those were already in place in Vista SP1). But, mostly Windows 7 just launched at a time when most people had enough RAM and a fast enough CPU and GPU to run it well. By 2009, unless you had an absolutely ancient machine Vista ran just fine. Windows 7 was better, sure, but it wasn't that much better.

[@lennycat7964]

dos 6 was my first step into the pc world (in 2003) and i loved it, years later i was gifted a pc running 98se (2006) and loved that too, shortly after we got a family pc running xp and i prefered 98se haha.. now im loving windows 10 ..11 just seems like what windows 8 was suppose to be just with a better looking interface

[@EweToobUsername]

You guys did 2000 dirty. I ended up putting so many computers on it, because it was XP without the fluff. Where XP needed a Pentium II 400 or an Athlon and 128MB minimum (256MB realistically) to run well, 2000 would run well on a Pentium 133 with the minimum RAM requirements (which was 32MB IIRC). Windows 11 was the upgrade AMD and Intel wanted because computer sales stagnated. Windows 95 and 98 both are version-dependent for what tier they’re in. 95 B OSR2 and 98 SE? A-tier. 95 B OSR2.1 and 95 C? B-tier. 98 and 95 A OSR1? F-tier as both had easily exploitable flaws that would cause data loss and even writes to track 0 of hard drives that were never fixed properly.

[@calenlaughlin3132]

Windows 3.1 was the first GUI OS I used at home. Calling it an OS is a bit generous since it just ran on top of DOS. I was probably 8 years old and I didn't really have any use for it since our office suite (MS Works) and games were all DOS based. That didn't mean it wasn't cool as hell and exciting to mess around with. I'm pretty sure I had to compress the 21MB HD(not a typo) to even install it (Protip: compressing a compressed drive may show a larger capacity, but you're only kidding yourself).

[@ghomerhust]

i think id agree with everything except with 98. and you missed 3.1... haha i ran all of those except 11, CE, and 1.0. and i STILL have a running 98SE pentium 3 gaming system that is a blast to play quake 1 and DOOM 3D. i ran 98SE all the way up until XP SP1, and it treated me extremely well. networking, lan parties, gaming, making MP3s (cuz that was a big thing haha), i ran the wheels off that machine. props that it's still running healthy today, that was a LONG time ago!

[@claycassin8437]

Excuse me, Windows 7 was not an "A". It was an A+++++ Highly Recommended.

[@eGeorgios]

i give Windows 10 S rank because have good start Menu ,Windows Defender .run past 3d games fast without any problems . I agree with F rank on Windows 8 ,the people dont want full screen of start Menu with Tiles as Tablet style .

[@dimmm1]

i would totally use a windows phone as my main if it was still supported

[@Wedeemgaming]

Austin you are wrong sir, the original Playstation Splash screen is the best sound ever created by humans!

[@jimirautaoja1514]

I used Windows phone for a 2 years. That OS was pretty good actually. Few more years of software upgrades and better app support would have made the Windows OS actually good.

[@imjustsomeguy]

It's hard for me to rank XP because I was young and stupid. My XP computer had good specs but became so slow because I would download a lot of crap and go on unsafe websites. This led to many viruses. Once in a while, my computer would get compromised with fake antiviruses. Such scary times

[@scevus]

Being an older member of your audience, having used all of these right alongside yall, I have to say, I agree with all of the above

[@bythelee]

One HUGE deal you didn't even mention, was that Win 7 brought reliable 64-bit computing to home users, which removed the 4Gb memory limit. Where would we be today without that? Modern 4k gaming would not be possible, for one. Vista (and even XP) had 64 bit versions, but they mostly did not work (from what I heard back then). Most programs were still 8 or 16 bit, never mind 32 bit, so the need was barely felt (except perhaps in gaming where the memory limit was getting tight). But 64 bit was necessary to get to where we are today. We'll outgrow it someday, but not for many decades to come. Agreed XP was "the best". It truly unified look and feel, and did away with having to reboot after every install or driver update. Today (Win 10), even the windows installation routine takes you through at least THREE DIFFERENT looks. Some have back arrows in the window header, some have "back" buttons - and they're never in the same place in the window. Worst of all, even minor updates or program installs require a compulsory reboot - more so than ever before, with any previous edition. Microsoft really wants you to feel that their OS is now sooooo complicated that even turning it off and on again requires updates and reboots en route. I absolutely hate the feeling that, despite owning my hardware and a valid windows licence, I am not allowed to be in charge of my machine. I stuck with Win 7 until 2021 because of that. 95 / 98 / 98SE (Second Edition) were all good. I don't understand the gripe about 95 users not being able to find their way around 98 - I had no trouble. But then I went from 95 to 98SE, and skipped any drama with 98. Skipped Me too. Dodged a bullet with that one, from the stories of users at the time. On the other hand, the change from XP to 7 initially put me right off. I instantly wanted to go back to XP, but stuck with it because... more RAM (that 64 bit step change). Eventually I got the hang of it, and grew to like it. I had a 2007 Toshiba laptop running Vista, and it crashed twice in the 18 months it was used four hours a day. Both cases were because I had accidentally obscured the exhaust vent, causing the graphics to overheat. Both cases were a "return to desktop" as the app crashed, not the OS. It was my most reliable windows machine ever, and was pleasant to use. Compared to the bugfest that is Win 10 (desktop icons now randomly uncontrollable, and Windows Explorer more broken than ever before) Vista is an A and Win 10 is a D or F rating for me. I won't be touching Win 11 with a bargepole of any length. Always online? NOPE. My next machine will be linux. My most recent (2 years old now) desktop hardware forced me to move to Win 10, and I cannot find ANYTHING. It's all hidden away behind friendly interfaces that look pretty but don't allow you to do anything. Never mind the incessant compulsory updating, which requires some fairly high level nous to stop, only to have those tricks broken by Microsoft in the next update, when you do decide "OK, NOW is a good time to update." The nanny-state interfering trends of Win 10 (and Win 11) that won't allow me to control my own hardware, and assume I have always on high speed broadband (which I don't, because it is physically not available at a sensible price where I live) means I am on my LAST windows edition. With Win 10 I can't even resize my non-standard aspect ratio lockscreen image to fit the screen. How DUMB is that? Win 3.1 - C very strange how you chose to rank win 1.0, yet skipped this ubiquitous "first usable Windows" edition, started from DOS. It wasn't great, but began the era of PC graphical interface (instead of command line stuff). 95 - B great improvement from 3.1, but it still felt like a graphical DOS OS, even though 95 ran from boot. 98SE - A the Second Edition was very comfortable and predictable to use. XP - S the best old days... Vista - A reliable and crash-proof on my laptop (which meant no hardware changes and no dirver updates needed - the nemesis of Vista were drivers...) Win 7 - A (might deserves only a B - user account control anyone? -facepalm- But the 64 bit revolution started here, and that's the biggest Windows factor of the past 3 decades) Win 10 - F absolute bugfest with so much basic stuff now broken and rendered hidden from users, that I hate using it every time I boot the PC. Win 11 - will never install it. Win 10 with even more Big Brother always-online crap? No thanks. Not even if it was free. I truly miss XP, but let it go because of the non-64 bit limitation. But now I also miss Win 7, and still have a working 7 machine ready to go for the day I cannot face 10 anymore.

[@SuperXBros1988]

Personality I love Windows 11's layout and the includon of the centered buttons in the taskbar😁

[@Cutlerms]

I think that the main things that they didn't mention was that Windows NT was by all accounts the "Pro" version of Windows. It was rolled out for businesses because they wanted something that was better for word processing and data processing that couldn't be done on Windows 3.1. They updated the GUI based on things they were hearing from businesses that wanted this. And it was actually loved so much that, that is why Windows 95 came out because it was a less version, or "Home" version of NT. Under the hood was different from NT because it didn't need all the bells and whistles that NT had but had a very similar GUI so that people that used NT would find it familiar. Then Windows 98 came out and made some back end improvements while not changing the GUI so much. Then they rolled out 2000 which was the "Pro" version of Me and it was just absolutely a solid platform while Me was just loaded with bugs because it had a different back end than Me. Then the glorious XP came out and that was the standard and that is why it is based off of NT technology and why they just started doing a Home and Pro version of their software so the backend was mostly the same but the Home version was not as robust. Then Vista came out and it was a dumpster fire that was in development hell for so long. Since Microsoft promised a new OS by a certain date, and instead of postponing, they releases the garbage and took what they had and continued on with Windows 7 which was what Vista was supposed to be. Then 8 came out because they were trying to compete with Apple and their tablets, but that fell flat in their face. Then 10 came out and that was the next solid build since 7 and did pretty good. Can't say too much with 11 as I haven't used it that much. Cheers-

[@BreannaMae]

I was 13 when Windows 95 was released and can remember my parents buying a Gateway 2000 desktop with that OS installed. For the time it was infinitely better than Windows 3.0 and 3.1! When Windows 98 came out we upgraded, then subsequently upgraded to Win 98 Second Edition. Those two were even more fantastic compared to Windows 95. Thankfully my parents chose to skip Win ME and instead bought a new computer with the first version of XP. Also my parents gave me a desktop computer with XP installed as a high school graduation present. Not even kidding, that thing lasted until 2015! I was able to install Windows 7, which it surprisingly ran just fine despite its age.

[@Towelie1994]

MSDOS not included?

[@palaashatri]

Windows 8 really did perfect the Windows-on-a-touchscreen experience, which woul'dve been great considering the modern barrage of portable computers like the Steam Deck and Aya Neo, because both 10 and 11 absolutely suck for touchscreen navigation when compared to WIndows 8 ngl

[@thelaughingmanofficial]

Windows 10 does have a tablet mode and it works the same as Windows 8.1

[@Ravenaw555]

the thing with windows 10 and 11 is that the dev versions are more stable and actually include useful features. on stable 11 there is still no drag and drop on the taskbar or scroll on volume icon or tabs in explorer. so what i would suggest is to be an insider and use the dev channel. it is night and day.