The Yugoslav Wars - Croatian War

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[@sebulbableves]

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[@Hayastantzi92]

No

[@theacesofrazgriz7674]

the Snail is ever expanding

[@alex_hunter7098]

Me on my way to leak Military documents

[@artilleriman]

when you mkae part 2 of history of Serbia, thanks .

[@HolyDarkness767]

There's one thing I'd like to add as a Croat. I agree with your description, but I feel that there's something that wasn't mentioned. While many people did gravitate towards nationalism because of the failings of the communist system that you mentioned, they also did so because of something else, their religion. While there had not been any open religious persecution in Yugoslavia since the 50s, religious people were basically second grade citizens. Advancement in society was tied to membership in the communist party and members of the party were under constant threat of being expelled if they partook in religious activity. Beeing seen to go to church or even to have your child baptized was very dangerous for anyone in higher positions. Only basic workers and peasants whose position didn't depend on party membership could be religious without risking anything. This state of affairs led to a strong resentment among religious people and made them all too eager to support the nationalist movements that saw religion as a part of the national identity.

[@markos.8211]

religion was also weaponized to make people hate eachother my whole village was burend to the ground because the civillians believed in the SAME god, this made me really resent religion and in a way made me ashamed of my origins

[@ankrapek12]

can't agree about religion, google search how zagreb looked like during titos yugoslavia during the holidays, absolute bullshit! if you wanted to be a high ranking communist it was suggested for you to be atheist but every single high ranking communist married and baptised their children in the church and so on! why spread misinformation? not trying to be a dick here but your parents/grandparents were probably pretty nationalistic so they planted in your head to hate the past!

[@FictionHubZA]

That explains Poland too. I was wondering why it is so religious. So it's a backlash to communist suppression.

[@skin4700]

@@FictionHubZA exacitly

[@rebel_diamonds]

"Beeing seen to go to church or even to have your child baptized was very dangerous for anyone in higher positions." Lets face it, these people weren't particularly religious to begin with. They liked their cushy made-up jobs more than baby Jesus. Nobody in my family had a government gig, so I was baptized in '82, and nobody from Udba came to spy on us or gave a fuck if we had a christmas tee in the living room. Then came 1990 and all these party members in both Croatia and Serbia suddenly remembered how much they love that Jesus fella, but the mean oppressive regime (run by lazy Balkan slobs) wouldn't let them go to church. I had to listen to so many HDZ fucks talk how they couldn't take sacraments and other BS. Nobody was stopping them, they just waited till '92 to be sure the tide has changed before they burned their party membership card and started acting like God-fearing Croats with Pope stickers on their shitty Golfs. The same thing was almost certainly happening in Serbia.

[@lukasnikolic2923]

I, as a Croat from Bosnia, say the biggest sufferers of this war were the civilians. We suffered on the hands of politicians powertripping because every sane person back then didn't asked for the war.

[@NakedAvanger]

sooo much like in any war ever? do you honestly believe that in the past two centuries (or more) we fought a war that wasnt politically driven? that wasnt about land or resources? the governemnt (any government) doesnt care about its people when it comes to war because people are a cheap, abundant and replaceable resource.

[@markotorca]

Odakle se brate imamo isto prezime

[@lukasnikolic2923]

@@markotorca Općina Travnik, BiH.

[@matejtrupina1244]

Eee netko iz BiH

[@filipbitala2624]

Its crazy that people still claim that america bombing school was justified

[@StriborCumez]

An older Croat here - really good video. Just some factual corrections. 1. Tudjamn died in 1999 not 2009. 2. The oil crisis came around 1977, so the constitution of 1974 was not connected to the oil crisis or the economy. 3. The role of the church is not mentioned since both the catholic and the orthodox churches were actually relentlessly supporting the war efforts on their side.

[@maliivan1993]

Where are you getting that the oil crisis was in 1977? By all accounts I could find a global oil crisis started in 1973.

[@StriborCumez]

@@maliivan1993 Jugoslavija had good relationships with the nonaligned block with lots of oil producing countries. The oil problems in Jugoslavija started after the problem hit the world.

[@StriborCumez]

@@maliivan1993 The strongest oil hit for Jugoslavija came actually in 1982 and not in 73. Most of the seventies we drove normally until the end of the seventies, and in the eighties, the problem became so strong that we had odd plate numbers driving one day, and even late numbers driving the second day, but it was during Milka Planinc time, related to complete devaluation of currency thanks to inflation and problems in replaying our foreign debt. The main problem for Jugoslavija came because of Irak - Iran war, when Irak stopped exporting oil for clearing - basically a nonaligned concept of straight goods exchange - we were building factories and pipelines in Irak and they were giving us oil, thus avoiding the foreign currency (dollars) that we did not have.

[@NekoImeni]

Croats held REAL children concentration camps in Europe during ww2.... - Jastrebarsko children concentration camp - Sisak children concentration camp - Gradiska children concentration camp - .... Even Gestapo was disgusted.....

[@StriborCumez]

@@NekoImeniYes ustashe had these awful camps, but do not see how this is related to this part of discussion unless you imply that I am somehow guilty for Ustasha atrocities although my ancestors fought as partisans against nazis and nazi puppets like ustashe and chetniks .

[@Alex-pm6di]

Hey, this was a genuinely amazing video. My families mixed Croat/Serb/Bosnian and they taught us that we're all the same. Please do a bonsian war video next. General way I treat it is if an individual was killing civillians, they are wrong and bad. You can have nationalist ideas without slaughtering innocents.

[@jordanleovic2525]

Very well said man

[@goransvraka3171]

Can you do a video of how we can put our differences aside and reunify!

[@kaisermarxistdixie6842]

And what I find weird is that the ideal of Yugoslavia is probably the dumbest ideal humanity actually came up with since most of the groups have differences and their were better ideals for pan-nationalist ideals like a union between Croatia and Slovenia, a Union between Serbia and Montenegro, and Bosnia being a ethno-pluralist nation.

[@meduzsazsa8490]

​@@kaisermarxistdixie6842yugoslavian ideology was developed in Croatia, originally it was supposed to be only an union 😔

[@kaisermarxistdixie6842]

@@meduzsazsa8490 still though, I feel like Croatia has more in common with Slovenia, and Montenegro with Serbia. Bosnia is just a mash up to croats and serbs with bosnians in the middle. I feel like the Yugoslav ideals was a bad ideal from the beginning.

[@manfredrichtoften8848]

As a Croat, I feel a need to mention that to this day there is a bit of a "it was just that commander/unit/group of soldiers that did those things" mindset going about when the topics of warcrimes come up, especially the persecuted ones. It doesn't happen often, it is actually quite rare to hear it out loud, but if you listen to some old vets/politicians who 'definitively' didn't go into hiding when war broke out, you'll hear the rethoric. Also, I can't describe the gut feeling you get when passing through villages that were previously predominantly serb. I remember going with my father to a work site somewhere in dalmatia and there being a place, if not completely devoid of life, almost every single building destroyed, and there being a church on an opposite hill, croatian chessboard made out of tiles looking towards the place. It doesn't feel like a victory. Not at all.

[@ColoradoStreaming]

I remember going to Dubrovnik years ago and it was such a beautiful city. Then we drove nearby and there would be random building still shelled out. My buddy wanted to walk up a hill but had to turn around due to a minefield. It was pretty heartbreaking.

[@l.z.2315]

Mislili ste da se borite za Hrvatsku a ustvari borili ste se za Habzburga.

[@leonardblazevic9440]

@@l.z.2315 ti se gubiš

[@leonardblazevic9440]

the crimes still were just a small group.

[@l.z.2315]

@@leonardblazevic9440 Cinjenica je da ste se borili protiv Jugoslavije da bi postali dio germanskog svjeta (makar i kao provincija). 2 x ste srusili Jugoslaviju iz istog razloga. Druga je stvar sto je zapadu odgovaralo rusenje suverene Jugoslavije radi zauzimanja trzista i sirenja Nato saveza. Istovremeno ste protjerali etnicke Srbe sa teriotirije Hrvatske .Jedan dio ste pobili u Jasenovcu i drugim stratistima za vrijeme NdH.

[@jordanleovic2525]

Balanced retelling of a terrible, terrible war. A fraternal war. I'm from a mixed Croatian/Serb family. Love all my Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian brothers and sisters and all my other Balkaners of course.

[@NotTheeagles]

That's an intresting mix. It. ust havebeen interesting to have the family at the dinner table

[@jordanleovic2525]

it's funny, my grandparents always got a long very well, even though they were both staunch nationalists on each side. Me, I love both countries and am pro-independence for both, but I don't think nationalism should stand in the way of loving your neighbours@@NotTheeagles

[@stargazer3364]

​​@@jordanleovic2525 - It's mostly stupid politics with deep rooted ideologies. Most people don't really give a sh*t about it. However, when you have the likes of Milo who rises its ugly nationalistic ideas to forefront, people tend to be dumb and join the crowd of hatemongers. Most regular folks get along just fine no matter what or where they are from.

[@shadowmaster902]

We love you too! Good day to you from Croatia, wherever you are.

[@AnnatarTheMaia]

Only a Serb would claim that it was "fraternal" - Serbs and Croats will never be brothers because Serbs hate Croats beyond infinity, just because Croats were part of the West and they weren't. And besides, after that last war, Croats may forgive, but they will never forget, and they will never be your brothers, just like you will never be theirs. All that "fraternity" was a tactic to assimilate Croats, people who can not be assimilated.

[@TyrantSolo]

If they just gave all of Yugoslavia to Hungary this never would have happened

[@OneAndOnlyTheGreat]

😂

[@WhisperChill]

😂😂

[@arthurlasido258]

Just like the good old time of Jan "Ultra-Chad" Hunyadi

[@_____Shadow_____]

@@arthurlasido258do not speak of the Based Romanian without prior knowledge

[@ThePanEthiopian]

Balkans je Türkiye 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

[@ir23000]

Tudjman died in 1999, not 2009. Otherwise, perfect video, I applaud the objectivity, which is very difficult to find from anyone on Balkans (or beyond). Cheers from Croatia

[@YourD3estinY]

Kinda, but the ending was really weird. The Bosnian war didn't start after the Croatian war. In fact these wars happened simultaniously and kind of blended into each other.

[@Sedativ]

​@@YourD3estinYhe probably ment after ceasefire in Croatia in 1992.

[@jkubgd3637]

What do you think about Ustashe movement?

[@YourD3estinY]

@@jkubgd3637 They are a fascist and genocidal group. What else could one think of the Ustashe?

[@vedrancorluka2196]

​@@jkubgd3637very cringe ngl

[@greggor07]

Wow...I am genuinely surprised by the legit objectivity of this video, compared to what all of us usually see about this topic! On the internet especially. To be frank, it's likely THE best video concerning this subject, I've ever seen. Great job man and cheers from Croatia! Ps. Good luck with the next videos as the conflicts they're about still haven't been fully resolved.

[@juliboi7230]

My Bestfriend is Half Croatian. He has told me about a town he goes on vacation that has a school with bullet holes in the walls and roof.

[@krunoslavkovacec1842]

Many places still do.

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

A lot of Yugoslavia does, even Sarajevo is famous for bullet hole buildings. It's cool, but also very sad

[@skin4700]

@@cerebrummaximus3762 well not in serbia..

[@petarslavoroduzasny]

Thats totally normal there. There are even forrests with fences around where mines still are in the ground. Thats why we croatians are the best minesweeper players of the world. But before you think the whole country looks like afghanistan or comparable shitholes (like our neighbour states) croatia is very beautiful. But at some places you still can see stuff from the war and in the east you can see clearly the communist influence in the architecture. But beside that, the country is really beautiful.

[@varkonyitibor4409]

Totally normal in Budapest too ...from 1956

[@natkojurdana9673]

You did this tragic story justice and thank you for it! I was a child when it began and a pre-teen when it ended, so my formating years were marked by war. May our children never witness war... "what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!!!"

[@silviudumitru3968]

As a romanian, I really love your videos! Keep up the good work! Ty for the good content!

[@therealnuggetball]

Breakup of Yugoslavia explained in emojis: Slovenia leaving:😑 Macedonia leaving: 😶 Croatia leaving: 🤬 Bosnia leaving: ☠️ Monetrego leaving: 😴 Kosovo leaving: 😡

[@balsa0108]

Kosovo is not a country, its part of Serbia if you don't know. You can see that on map of Serbia(I think you say map, maybe there is better word for that). But yeah other than that its pretty accurate.

[@Godssecondcomingissoon]

​@@balsa0108its not,in most maps its independent they only speak albanian and they have a albanian culture tradition their own passport and a heavily guarded boarder with a fully working goverment.If serbian forces enter kosovo they get arrested

[@papadoc331]

​@@Godssecondcomingissoonthey only speak albanian? Are you fucking dumb

[@therealgamingfire]

@@balsa0108 I can't deal with idiots. So I'm removing my original comment

[@adamrakic]

​@@Godssecondcomingissoonwelp it wasnt like that always, it's just rhat albanians basically ocupied it while our goverment was fucking sleeping on it,and now we can't do a thing or there will be another war....

[@maximk9964]

Crazy how some countries are only held together by central force, and when that weakens... BAM, civil wars. USSR was similar as well, especially Armenia and Azerbaijan (which still aren't done)

[@MathMasterism]

You just know the same thing would've happened to the old United States if George Washington hadn't quit after just 8 years.

[@DieGamerAG]

Or hell, the Caucasus region in general has been suffering from multiple conflicts since the 1990s.

[@OleksaDid]

Or Ukraine and Russia. From what I've read in the "Zone" by Mathias Énard and actually experienced as a Ukrainian, it feels like almost the same narrative comparing to Croatia/Serbia war. The huge communist prison of mostly slavic nations fell apart, and it appeared that no one wanted to stay there anymore, except for the "main" nation that wanted everyone back. Somehow post-USSR shit show took 30 years to start, while post-yugoslavian began right away. I find it just ridiculous how some things are so similar for these conflicts. Ukrainians/Croats are displayed as nazis and fascists, while they just want to be independent from the colonial regime and have almost non-existent level of far right ideas in society. And Russians/Serbs are claiming that those nations do not exist and try to keep them in occupation. And are displayed as imperialistic pigs and barbarous occupants. War never changes... I really hope the post-yugoslav nations will be able to find piece and forgive each other. Without that the conflict is not ended, it's just on pause. However I can totally understand that it won't probably happen while the generations that have experienced this inhuman bloodshed are still alive. You can't just forgive and forget the atrocities and war crimes. Just a quote from the book I mentioned earlier (offensive language disclaimer): "it’s hard to understand hatred when you haven’t experienced it or when you’ve forgotten the burning violence the rage that lifts your arm against an enemy his wife his child wanting revenge wanting pain for them make them suffer too, destroy their houses disinter their dead with mortar shells plant our semen in their females and our bayonets in their eyes shower them with insults and kicks because I myself had cried when I saw the solitary body of a beheaded kid clutching a toy in a ditch, a grandmother disemboweled with a crucifix, a comrade tortured enucleated grilled in gas like a shriveled-up grasshopper, his eyesockets empty and white, almost gleaming in the carbonized mass of the corpse, images that still today set my heart beating faster, make my fists clench, ten years later, like Andi’s corpse seen lying in his steaming droppings in the middle of the idyllic landscape of a Bosnian valley, there’s nothing to be done these images lose none of their force, how to rid myself of them, how, where to leave them, to whom can I confide them" Edit: grammar

[@reisshep]

@@OleksaDid To be quite fair, there's loads of Serbs going to Croatian beaches, loads of Croats going to Belgrade to party and everyone goes to Bosnia for the food and nature. North Macedonia isn't a very popular tourist destination but it's safe for all. Some go to Slovenia for work but it's not as popular either. And Montenegro used to be quite popular for tourism but nowadays most people prefer Greece or Turkey. Older generations still might harbor some hatred, but us young people don't care. Some might, but most don't.

[@OleksaDid]

@@reisshep That's good to know, thank you! Gives some hope! I just saw some documentaries about the current situation in Balkans and it was shown that people usually stick to their national/religious groups/neighbourhoods and don't really mix, because there is still the hatred in the air. Maybe that's fair for smaller towns and doesn't reflect the whole picture.

[@CofekDaGod]

This will cause such a civil discussion in the comments

[@lukasnikolic2923]

Oh just wait before 14 y.o. Aleksandar from Vienna with a Draža pfp. starts typing

[@stefan2serb]

We respect Slovenia a lot and looking at it objectively, can fully understand why you wanted to leave us neanderthals behind. Not only are you the most developed ex Yugoslav nation, but you are the most developed Slavic nation and the most developed 'Eastern' European nation. It is shocking to me that we were ever part of the same country. That being said we would appreciate it if you showed the same level of respect to what we provided you, the necessary genepool to produce world class basketball players in Luka Doncic, Goran Dragic, Zoran Dragic, Sasha Vujacic, Rade Nesterovic, Marko Milic etc etc. Respect where it is due.

[@CofekDaGod]

hope that too@hennyballector8690

[@tomato9349]

​@@lukasnikolic2923 facts

[@Botix330]

yeah when those 14 year old kids that were not even in their parents balls start talking about history and war.

[@neromastic4512]

I am glad as a Bosnian that you show attention towards the War that broke people,a War that should not be forgotten and learned from as it is quite common it to be forgotten. Despite Yugoslavia having achieved something very unique of its time as a Neutral country,Yes having to balance both Communism and Liberalism is a Balance act to up keep the Neutral status of a country. My Father was in the war and he did told me many stories of how bad the war was in Bosnia so I am excited to see more. After 20 years later (Me now 25) I saw the whole picture of the war and what it all was about. I left my home for a better one as hate and suffering can be felt in even today former Yugoslavia . Today all is slowly recovering from it,after a short visit in 2022 it all seems to go better but still not directly. I am excited to see more of the series of videos as purely I stand like Yugoslavia with a Neutral mindset and not one to hate each other. Also War Thunder really good game I suggest it too,as recently people did found Yugoslavia Flags for a blank card of the vehicles,we might get some special in War Thunder that's Yugoslavian.

[@0101_root]

It is so refreshing to have someone like you to just tell it like it is without sugarcoating it or leaning to one side only. Keep it up.

[@Phenix1234HD]

Yugoslavia was held togheter the the gravitational attraction of Tito's balls #facts

[@pandasylver]

Don't forget his 4d chess moves #epic

[@Embrod]

Or mostly because of his Stalinist regime. At least in first years.

[@Tortle-Man]

Tito basically held Yugoslavian together at gun point by saying “If you engage in any nationalist behavior, I will bury you in a grave no one will remember”. Which given that these guys turned out to be Nazis, that was pretty based of him.

[@pandasylver]

@@Tortle-Man are you saying that Croats are Nazis?

[@GHOST_CROATIA]

​@@Tortle-ManSo you are painting many freedom/democracy loving people as nazis? Clown

[@shinglemcdingle4093]

Pretty nice and objective analogy of the war in Croatia. Giving people information about both's evil deeds is a rarity in this ultra-propgandised media environment that we have in the Balkans. Thank you for being a normal person Srbine

[@balsa0108]

Yeah, its best to make it objective becouse it can make a lot of problems in comments. Its still fresh for us(In my opinion).

[@maiskaj6333]

The video makes it seem like people were just brainwashed by leaders but those were nationalist movements and whole governments and they had to have someone who will be the leader and represent the people and the government, Tuđman wasn't a dictator, Croatia is a democratic republic, with an ancient national/ethnic identity which not many other nationalities can say. The video is a bit biased and doesn't mention quite a few Croatian talking points and reasons that we wanted independence. Also what we learn about the exile of serbs after operation storm is vastly different than what was mentioned in the video. The exile of the serbs from krajina was ordered from Belgrade, and they just picked up and left. They weren't forced anywhere, while there were some altercations there was no order from Croatian military to force them all out of their homes or anything like that. Another fact that wasn't mentioned and that adds some context to their decision to leave after loosing their army is that serbian war crimes outnumber Croatian and Bosnian put together and by a lot. And those gruesome war crimes were mostly committed by those exact same serbs that left after operation storm, their fathers, sons, brothers, cousins. The video also says the exile of serbs from krajina after operation storm was an ETHNIC CLEANSING, which is VERY INCORRECT, it was an EXODUS, which is a BIG F*CKING DIFFERENCE. The whole video is presented in a way that portrays Yugoslavia as some kind of ancient motherland dominated by serbs and the rest of us as breakaway states, Yugoslavia is a modern invention and apart from some parts of Bosnia the Balkan is now in a much more natural state divided along both historical and ethnic borders. Yugoslavia can only exist as a dictatorship with someone like Tito at the top. But as a democracy it makes no sense, giving serbs executive power over smaller states which always leads to centralisation is completely unacceptable to everyone involved. Carantania(Slovenia), Bosnia and Croatia are all ancient people and national/ethnic identities with rich cultures and history. This would be like telling the Irish to reunite with Britain or the Nordic countries to form a state where Sweden will hold executive power over the other states, it's unsustainable and unstable. Some kind of union like a mini EU would make much more sense.

[@ararune3734]

It's not that objective. Both side's evil deeds? This is the frustrating part, you're equalizing the perpetrator with the victim. Hamas massacres civilians in Israel, Israel retaliates, now we're talking about both sides doing bad things? No, you have full right to defend yourself. This video has a lot of BS like that, and it portrays the people as if they were misled, no, people wanted independence, which was legitimate and allowed by the Yugoslav constitution. There is a clear perpetrator and the victim, stop equalizing them.

[@kelian69]

@@maiskaj6333i hear what you say and those are valid points. Until yoi start considering that the Croatian army shelled the civilian convoy, making their intentions pretty clear, as well as burn villages to drive the pont across. My grandma died from sadness knowing she could never come back to her home. So you might want to reconsider whatever it is that you tell yourself to feel better.

[@maiskaj6333]

@kelian69 I already said some altercations happened. It doesn't change anything I said.

[@lmaocetung]

Czechoslovakia every time the Yugoslav war gets mentioned: **signature look of superiority**

[@lukasnikolic2923]

Meanwhile Slovenia and North Macedonia during that time: 🍿🍿

[@Embrod]

Not to mention Hungary. Also did you hear about Ryszard Siwiec?

[@YourD3estinY]

Germany after the Suedentland is mentioned: *signature look of arian superiority* 🤪🙃

[@FictionHubZA]

​@YourD3estinY The Virgin Sudetenland fan vs the Chad East Prussia enjoyer.

[@arethmaran1279]

​@@YourD3estinYah, yes, the people Hitler was a big fan of, the Arian heretics of the 4th century.

[@chromadef]

Great concise video of what happened. No matter which side you look at it, it was a shitshow. Everyone was guilty and it's a scar that unfortunately still hasn't healed. I can only hope that the young generations look past all that happened and just treat everyone with respect. Super video, topli pozdravi iz hrvatske

[@dimebagdd]

Some were more guilty than the others.

[@Rudero3]

I live in an area of the US with a massive Croatian population, a huge Bosnian Muslim population, and even some Serbians (since Orthodoxy, and Eastern Catholicism are dominant in my area), so this war, these wars rather, they come up....a lot. Big not forgotten in my area.

[@taboulefattouch4744]

Massive as in 13 families in a town of 25,000 people.

[@reisshep]

Orthodox majority religion? In the US? I couldn't find that on Google but I'm interested if you can tell me more.

[@dr.wahnsinn9913]

@@reisshep It would not be that strange, if you think of the rather big russian immigration, especially to the midwest there the towns are smaler.

[@ElTigre12024]

Where do you live? I’m from the Detroit area and we have a lot of Macedonians, Albanians and some Bosnians here.

[@sevel7556]

Chicago suburbs?

[@gabrielplese7516]

Damn. An objective video about the yugoslav wars for once. Rare to see. Pozdrav iz Hrvatske 🇭🇷❤️🇷🇸

[@Dominick.412]

No

[@meesamkhan4767]

Uzmi taj pozdrav i metni ga sebi u bulju ustaso raspala

[@meesamkhan4767]

Uzmi taj pozdrav i metni ga sebi u bulju ustaso raspala

[@pandasylver]

If Yugoslavia was given to Costa Rica This would have never happened

[@leonmlinaric4608]

?

[@areaxisthegurkha]

@@leonmlinaric4608 you dare question Costa Rica?!

[@leonmlinaric4608]

@@areaxisthegurkha do you dare to talk to your sister

[@areaxisthegurkha]

@@leonmlinaric4608 I don't have a sister, so L to you good sir.

[@leonmlinaric4608]

@@areaxisthegurkha ...you wil in 9 months

[@cmx8450]

My father was drafted to war against the Croats and the stories I get out him are of terror and survival. I’m a Albanian from Kosovo and My father is of Turkish heritage living in Kosovo and my mom is a Kosovo Albanian. I consider myself an Albanian and always have (besides the point). He told me he doesn’t like talking about the war because the doesn’t wanna remind himself of what he saw and he’d like to forget it. I once got him to show me where he fought (on a KZbin video)and he started getting really emotional which is rare for him because even when his own mother died he was the bigger man and took care of everyone else before himself. He will never quite know the respect I have for him eventhough we disagree and fight on a lot daily.

[@CDB-iw1ed]

That subtle "helicopter" was beautiful. Great editing!

[@CDB-iw1ed]

'Also, "Big Dicked Dictator is a SOLID line.

[@Dac_DT_MKD]

I hope you talk about the Macedonian insurgency of 2001 as the last part of the Yugoslav wars. It's a topic that isn't brought much, and many outside of Macedonia don't know about it.

[@Embrod]

What happened there?

[@Dac_DT_MKD]

@@Embrod kzbin.info/www/bejne/panHmJyhh8lqmbc Here's a short video of a Macedonian documentary about the insurgency in 2001. It has English subtitles because the video is in Macedonian. There used to be an another video that goes deeper, but I can't find it at the moment. Plus this video is a bit biased towards the Macedonian side, so keep that in mind (despite me being Macedonian, I don't want others to just accept our side only).

[@LEONSKENNEDY91]

@@Dac_DT_MKD yeah, there was another video in english with a level of production that is quite decent (similar to living ironically), yet I cannot find it I believe it was named 'a war that was forgotten' or 'not mentioned'

[@Dac_DT_MKD]

@@LEONSKENNEDY91 Yea, that's the one. I think it was named "The forgotten Yugoslav war" or something. I wonder if the channel got deleted or something, because he produced some great war analysis.

[@LEONSKENNEDY91]

@@Dac_DT_MKD as a Bosnian Serb, I had no idea about the context of that insurgency in Macedonia (probably due to larger scale of war in Bosnia). That video was quite well made, it gave me broader context about the relation between Macedonians and Albanians

[@yungfiend6830]

My uncle is a professor in psychology. He went to Bosnia for a research paper. He was mainly researching the affects of the wars on the children’s brains and psychology. Most of them didn’t have parents anymore. It was very very sad. He doesn’t like talking about it.

[@iliepetcan1736]

Unfortunatelly even after roumanian Ceaușescu descend from power a lot ușa fsmilyed they have come to adopt kids and was a lot of psichologs Tht took a lot of time to study the comportament of this kids IT was to much

[@Hajde_budalla]

You can see it in the comments sometimes, kids that grew up through the traumas of these wars and are adults, and have severe psychological problems. In particular, with Bosniaks.

[@Hajde_budalla]

@@iliepetcan1736 Those kids in romania did not get the human touch they needed for brain and body development, and were starved, both for affection and food. Absolutely a nightmare. This is also true of some former soviet areas in and including russia. The trauma in war can come from those things, but its mostly in what these kids directly experienced. Rape and murder or family members in front of them; people being torn to bits by bombs; corpses everywhere, some being eaten by dogs and cats who were starving… unimaginable horror for anyone, but for a child who’s mind is in the developing stages, terribly destructive.

[@dominik30052003]

Hey, you did a pretty good job on making a video about this topic! I usually avoid watching SerboCroatian documentaries because of how heavly biased they are, but you did a good job on staying pretty much neutral and truthful. I do tho, have a few minor things to point out that you said in the video. 1. The war did end in 1995, BUT Croatia during the operation storm did not completely reclaim its pre war border all until 1998. Vukovar (podunavlje) was still under Serbian occupation. During the years after the wars, Croatia and Serbia were slowly diplomaticly negotiating to give Vukovar to Croatia (like for ex. on the map Vukovar was Croatian but the police were still Serbian). As each month a new law was passed Vukovar was returned to Croatia 1998, 3 years after the war has finished( Mirna reintegracija hrvatskoga Podunavlja). 2.Tudjman died in 1999 and not 2009 (im sure you just had a mixup) As I said its just minor extra detailed things. All in all I really liked the video, hope you continue doing these videos! EDIT: What I also wanted to add onto this, that people mostly think that everything went downhill after Tito died. Which is true, but doesnt completely mean that everything before Tito died was perfect. During the Student protests in serbia in the late 60s/early 70s and the Croatian spring, which also took place in the early 70s was the first MAJOR sign of a possible collapse, mind you Tito was still alive when all of that taking place. If you look at the videos of the Croatian spring you can actually see a girl wearing the Croatian checkerboard patch on her hat(without the red star, it was almost the same as the one used in ww2 by the ustasha) , in the middle of the Croatian capital. And im sure you know this too, but the UDBA did not look kindly upon people displaying nationalist ideas. Everything was so bad that Tito was really close to deploy the JNA to settle down the protesters. But at the end he didn't, he signed laws that gave more autonomy to the republics, which ultimately lead to yugoslavia being so inefficient. But it bought yugoslavia a couple of more years of being somewhat stable. But after Tito's death, the cracks started to show again. And as we all know what happened later. I could go even more in depth but I would probably break youtube's character limit.

[@SuperQuater]

The checkboard is centuries old Refer to st Mark's church in Zagreb

[@ivojuk3666]

Peaceful reintegration of Podunavlje was one of rare bright moments in '90 where both side were smart enough to choose peace and not war. For detail you says: Croatia coat of arm has been used for centuries (with both white or red first square) as a Croatian national symbol and nazies just used national simbols as they did in other puppet states (Vichy's Frence, nazi's Austrian province or Nedić's Serbia). There is a picture where the same checkboard is used by Tito's partisans during ww2 and later in communist Yugoslavia. But you are right: national question was smoldering unsolved for the whole time during YU.

[@markotorca]

I think u did a great job staying neutral which I bet isnt easy for someone who comes from that place on earth. Im croatian and I agree with everything u say in this video. Respect, honestly pozdrav brate pozdrav brata oca sestru pozdrav mater

[@rokp9007]

Mate he is only mentioning croatian war crimes and is showing croatia as an unproffesional army that commits war crimes while serbs did things that were several times worse. I think its laughable that he mentioned vukovar in the context of croatian war crimes when serbs killed tens of thousands civilians in ovcara. When you look at his other videos its obvious that hes a serb and has serb bias and is trying to portray croatia in a bad light.

[@markotorca]

@rokp9007 he mentioned Srebrenica didnt he?

[@markotorca]

@rokp9007 and skabrnja no? I honestly dont remember

[@diktrejsi8214]

@@rokp9007 tens of thousands in Ovcara?? The whole Croatian war has 21k people killed and from that number 8.5-9k are Serbian casualties, so how Serbs killed tens of thousands in Croatia, Pinocchio👃🤥 🤣🤣🤣

[@StaK_1980]

Keep it honest and balanced and you will receive praise from all sides! I was young when the war broke out but I still remember the shock a lot of us had who were not living in Yugoslavia.

[@NUTella_enjoyer]

1:48 He was as much Croatian as he was Slovenian. Also, in similar words considering his policies he was as Croatian as a Russian is.

[@PentaKillMedia]

As a Serb, honestly all of this could have been prevented if Milošević hadn't tried to keep an iron fist over the entire Yugoslavia, and instead positioned himself as a friend to the other Balkan nations by granting them autonomy, and if Yugoslavia transitioned from a Communist dictatorship into an actual Democracy based on cooperation and mutual friendship, rather than one country trying to hold a monopoly and dominate the others. We were all just pawns and collateral damage of corrupt leaders who were more concerned for their ambitions of power and domination rather than the prosperity of their peoples as a collective. If the balkan nations stayed unified into one bigger nation instead of a gazillion mini countries, all of us would have benefited way more.

[@bernardcrnkovic3769]

although i disagree with the last part of staying unified, i agree that offering countries to choose between autonomy and staying in yugoslavia would be right. peaceful dissolution is the way to go - democracy. factually, communist government was corrupt and non-democratic. so like 👍 from fellow neighbor croatian 🇭🇷.

[@MatoVuc]

@@bernardcrnkovic3769 there were people arguing to degrade the union from a federation to a confederation and things like that. Unfortunately, that was not good enough for some people who ended up making the final decisions, the ones in Yugoslavia and outside it.

[@AutariShira]

Every time I hear about this topic I am so happy that similar thing didn´t happen in Czechoslovakia and we split peacefully. I hope that the wounds of this war will be healed soon

[@rc59191]

We never should of split in the first place.

[@YourD3estinY]

​@@rc59191Only got yourselves to blame. Slovenia and Croatia are doing fine in my estimation, sad for the other republics though... 😕

[@rc59191]

@@YourD3estinY we only got the Slovaks to blame.

[@YourD3estinY]

@@rc59191 What have the Slovaks of all peoples to do with the break up of Yugoslavia?

[@rc59191]

@@YourD3estinY I'm talking about Czechoslovakia.

[@TheSouth-j7f]

In 1991 the Serbs had 3000 tanks and Croatia had 0 tanks. The Serbs still managed to lose.

[@ПетарКарић]

😂😂😂 4. армија у свету а 5. у Европи!

[@historybalkans-dq5ig]

You are right. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@ПетарКарић]

@@historybalkans-dq5ig Голоруки дизали у ваздух тенкове.

[@h0lynut]

well the serbs were against all of NATO covertly and overtly if we want to be honest.

[@basketballeditzz24]

​@@ПетарКарићваљда обрнуто

[@andrymiolakolaka]

My last math teacher's family was from Yugoslavia (I'm from Brazil), her family erased the surnames linked to Europe with normal Portuguese surnames, she said that his parents had a lot of trauma from that time , maybe that's why she was such a cruel teacher

[@LEONSKENNEDY91]

wow that sounds like an interesting story tbh who knows what they lived through to make such a decision

[@YourD3estinY]

Interesting I didn't know that there were people that migrated to Brazil. I only know of Chilean and Argentinian immigrants (mostly the Croatian ones) starting in the late 19th century mostly from Dalmatia (the Austrian crown land).

[@FictionHubZA]

​@@YourD3estinYThey went all over. Even Canada and the USA.

[@ivanpetro8464]

I am a brazilian with slovene blood, but my family has emigrated right after WW One, so we have no tales about Yugoslavia.

[@Anton43218]

You should do a video on Dobrudja, the most diverse province in the Balkans.

[@peterdenov4898]

Presominated by Turks, craved by Romania, being hardlocked to Bulgaria.

[@Skaedm]

tbh this war is one of the sadest war in the mordern century brothers against brother but in the end tito knew it was going to end he even said it once when they asked what wll happen after the death of tito he said their will be no yugoslavia he was a realist and understood what will happened after his death

[@TheWolfDude91]

I'm pretty sure croats did not consider Serbs to be their brothers when they slaughtered around 700.000 of them in Jasenovac camp only during ww2 and nazi Croatia

[@Skaedm]

@@TheWolfDude91 u forgot what croats did right the ustase

[@Indedible_Bread]

Nice vid. Back in late 80's when Mr. Gorbachev opened up the borders for ppl, my mother decided to go on a tour to Yugoslavia, she was to Belgrade, Sarajevo and Dubrovnik and she even could speak, understand and write in serbo-croat language. Thats so bad this Federation ended up in such a bloody way. Old people that used to live in Soviet Union still portrait Yugoslavia as a heaven comparing to USSR which had more freedom better economy and better products such as furniture.

[@iliepetcan1736]

Everything was much more better in the 80's Tht in Rusia itselfs

[@RoMan-lf8tc]

I was a residential repairman in an ex soviet majority immigrant population NY area, the clients would often asked me where I`m from since I could understand some 40 percent of their spoken Russian and respond, often times when I said Yugoslavia, their eyes glassed over and they looked out into space, recanting a beauty full vacation memory, and they would proceed to tell me how nice it was and on and on, when they visited. I grew up in northern Serbia in the 80`s my parents Croat/Serb/Romanian, we trveled all over the country (Yugrosalv) so it was bittersweet every time they said it.

[@moxie_ST]

As an active participant of the (šhit show) respective events, I can say that the description is more or less accurate, although as a Croat I am a bit biased, so I would add some things and take some away, but in general, watching the video it describes well the "shit show" that took place in those "happy" nineties. The commercial for WT is perfectly integrated into the video, my pants fell off laughing. GG comrad o7 😂❤

[@Autism_Frogthe27th]

I am sure this comment section will be very civil and respect the serious topic we are currently discussing.

[@sergiopiparo4084]

Those’s who don’t know their history are condemned to repeat it

[@putinwillhanginthemiddleof4866]

You mean the mistakes ‼️

[@RHball]

This is the perfect video to watch about the war of independence. Most of us picture the Serbs as the badies, but in reality it was much more complicated and THAT will be explained in the Bosnian part.

[@Embrod]

Typical west propaganda, feel bad that we Poles trusted muricans.

[@schnitzelblitz96]

It is correct to not simply paint the Serbs as the „badies“. Such simplistic narratives rarely hold up when compared with reality. That said, one should not make the mistake of simply equating both sides. This is simply not true. Serbs, and in particular Milosevic, clearly bear both more responsibility for the start of the war and also committed more war crimes both in Croatia and BiH. One example: it is true, that Tudman and Milosevic were both nationalist leaders who riled up their population against the respective other, but the narrators claim that Tudman and Milosevic came to power as a reaction to each other is simply wrong: Milosevic took power with a coup within Serbs communist party on the basis of conflict in Kosovo, at a time where there was no large scale expressions of nationalism in Croatia. Meanwhile Tudman was elected by the Croat people two years later, as a reaction to increasing nationalism and centralism by Milosevic (so called „anti-beaurocratic revolution“). So yes, both Tudman and Milosevic were nationalists willing to spill blood to come to power and achieve their goals, but without Milosevic there likely would have been no Tudman, while Tudman had nothing to do with Milosevics rise to power. In fact, had Milosevic not taken power and had Stambolic stayed in power of the Serb communists, or even some Gorbachev-style figure, it is likely that there would not have been either a president Tudman nor a violent breakup of Yugoslavia…

[@YourD3estinY]

Well, they still did initiate the war. That and the Srebrenica massacre, which was classified as a genocide.

[@TheColonelMargotic]

što ti je negdje drago srat po vlastitoj državi...

[@nuvon-kn3se]

​​@@schnitzelblitz96 its only serbs who wanted a ethnic clear great-serbia (read the sanu-documents)...while croats wanted independence, Milosevic started with his hate speech back in 1987 long before anyone knowed about tudjman

[@aagarnabol._.]

Its good to know everything about the area we live in. Thanks for making these absolute best videos!!!

[@jakovvodanovic9165]

Factual mistakes: - who were the high-ranking ustashe officials in the Croatian government? - main reason for recognition of Croatia in early 1992 was integration of neoustashe paramilitary (HOS) into the regular army - Operation Storm was declared by ICTY not to have been ethnic cleansing as Serbs left mostly of their own accord, fearing revenge (a third returned after the war); you can question ICTY and its legitimacy, but I feel it's important to mention this; especially as you use ICTY as a source for multiple conclusions in the video - Operation Storm also only liberated part of the country, other parts (Eastern Slavonia) were reintegrated peacefully in 1997 by Croatia - almost all Croats that were convicted by the ICTY were involved in the Bosnian theatre, less so in the Croatian theatre, which is important to mention since this video deals with the Croatian theatre - Tuđman died in 1999, not 2009

[@ПетарКарић]

Вичу ЗДС - каже нису усташе. Александра Зец није отишла и како се то завршило?

[@jakovvodanovic9165]

@@ПетарКарић Write in English ili na latinici, ne znam čitat ćirilicu

[@ПетарКарић]

Вуковар српски град.

[@jakovvodanovic9165]

@@ПетарКарић aa ovo sam razumia, jel piše izgubili smo svaki mogući teritorij osim Vojvodine zadnjih 30 godina

[@ПетарКарић]

@@jakovvodanovic9165 Изгубили Херцег-Босну, изгубили Пирански залив, изгубили 740 хиљада католика за последњих 10 година.

[@shko-mi]

Operation Storm wasn't an ethnic cleansing. Literally, no civilians were killed in that operation. However, the propaganda issued by Belgrade government at the time (i.e. Serbia) urged those civilians to leave propagating the idea of incoming croatian revenge killings (which, you guessed it right, were never even planned nor would had happened). This is not my opinion, it is an opinion of the International Tribune of Justice in Haag, thus being the official narrative of the EU. So, saying "many agree it was ethnic cleansing" is just plain wrong. Also, no "high ranking government official" on the croatian side was convicted by the International Tribune. That's pure misinformation.

[@NekoImeni]

Croats committed the biggest and most monstrous genocide in entire human history of Balkan. Even Gestapo was disgusted. Talk about that, croat pussy hypocrite

[@Emojakemo-wn4fl]

@@NekoImeni Serbs actually did the biggest genocide in the history of balkans and the only genocide in europe after ww2... in whole bosnia, croatia and kosova... Not the Gestapo but the whole world was disgusted...

[@ПетарКарић]

​@@Emojakemo-wn4flНАТО није цео свет. Купи атлас.

[@ПетарКарић]

Александра Зец је остала и како се то завршило?

[@shko-mi]

@@ПетарКарић Great job, you found one isolated murder case that happened in Zagreb in 1991 and has nothing to do whatsoever with Operation Storm, as it happened 4 years earlier and for which murderers were arrested and trialed immediately. I guess that's how your propaganda works though, sad.

[@pablobronstein1247]

Biggest con is the "We did this to ourselves" line. Yes, money printing, planed production, nationalism, death of Tito all played a part in breakup. But the role outside powers had needs to be mentioned. Croatia alone is 3 times more in debt than entirety of ex-Yu combined)(adjusted for Inflation is) and you don't see IMF making a big deal out of it. One of the largest militaries in the world that is not aligned with either block effectively destroys itself and story boils down to ethnic tensions. There is more to it than that.

[@LEONSKENNEDY91]

what would you say more? why would it make sense for the outside powers to make the western balkans less stable? why did they offer EU membership (if true) for YU to stay united? general US, UK and France sentiment was for the YU to remain united

[@YourD3estinY]

It is not only about size of debt in relation to GDP. The biggest difference is Croatia can service their debt, Yugoslavia had to take IMF loans, so they didn't have to default on their debt. The bigger burden on the economy was hyper inflation and unemployment. Economic reasons aside, the attempt of re-centralizing of Yugoslavia brought back memories from pre WW2 era. Where Croatian politicians and intellectuals were killed and Croatian national symbols were banned after the murder of Stjepan Radić and others. The log revolution and the subsequent intervention of the JNA into Croatian internal security matters is probably the single biggest reason why over 90% of Croats across party lines chose independence.

[@tomgu2285]

​@@YourD3estinY white straight Christian croats playing the victim will never not be funny. Man I tought afro Americans had it hard but damn croats not being "allowed" to use Croatia symbols (press x to doubt) yes that's pure suffering. Nah the true reason is croats are anti Yugoslavia and anti communist. That's the truth.

[@pablobronstein1247]

@@LEONSKENNEDY91 Neoliberalism does not tolerate competition. Non-aligned movement was an alternative to bipolar world. Yugoslavia united had a chance to resist both East and West, now Croatia along with Slovenia is speedrunning societal decay that is consuming the rest of EU while Serbia gets bullied by Russia, China, US and EU. Nationalism narrative prevents any deeper discussion. Rest of the world exists, foreign interest exists. SFRJ wasn't in a vacuum. To be clear, I'm not denying role of nationalism in breakup, in fact it was instrumental in it.

[@MatoVuc]

@@LEONSKENNEDY91 "why did they offer EU membership (if true) for YU to stay united? general US, UK and France sentiment was for the YU to remain united" About the same reason they have to constantly dangle that carrot in front of the Ukrainians today: it's a smoke screen to hide the bullshit they do behind it.

[@TobedunFN]

Oluja was not an ethnic cleansing, your leader Martić ordered the evacuation

[@ПетарКарић]

Овчара није злочин, када је Вуковар пао Туђман је играо тенис са Антуном Врдољаком у Загребу. 😀

[@TobedunFN]

Ne čitam pogansko pismo @@ПетарКарић 🚜

[@jonomobono3223]

​@@ПетарКарић oluja je zlocin odkad su srpski vojnici pregazili srpske civile od straha...junacki narod nema sta

[@ПетарКарић]

​@@jonomobono3223Шта мислиш зашто када Хрвати пишу о покољу у Боровом селу углавном пишу о 12 убијених редарственика а неки пишу о 13 убијених редарственика? 😀

[@ПетарКарић]

​@@TobedunFNОвчара пољопривредно добро брм брм. 😂

[@jeffreyscargill]

Quite a nice video. Always glad to see more people talking about the turbulent times of the 80s and 90s. It is sometimes quite a forgotten period.

[@you_and_tirana6056]

Big respect to Croatia! 💪💪💪🇦🇱🤝🇭🇷💪💪💪

[@Rogi6XD]

Noones talking to you albania.

[@you_and_tirana6056]

@@Rogi6XD I'm not talking to you or your father....only to your mother 😁🤣

[@darkogrgic2507]

@@you_and_tirana6056 Big respect to Slovenia and specialy to Macedonia and Montenegro.

[@georgearrivals]

Bosnian and Kosovo war episodes are going to be crazyu

[@mottom2657]

I sincerely hope the Bosnian segment has a civil comment section. I don't hope so for the Kosovo segment though.

[@Just_B0red]

@@mottom2657 uh yea.. not looking forward to the Kosovo wars comment section

[@lukasnikolic2923]

I will have my popcorn ready for this🍿

[@Hajde_budalla]

@@lukasnikolic2923 you people are psychic vampires🤡

[@grigorijefimovic1087]

big respect for high degree of objectiveness. good info, good humor !

[@knjiggaofficial7733]

Pretty good job at handling a very explosive topic!

[@toqic]

Amazing content, cant wait to see next part!

[@asamniewiem3040]

End of advert 5:17

[@patriciamartin6756]

Yes. My LTR was from.Sweden but got sent to Yugoslavia to help. What he got was a permanent case of PTSD, panic attacks, deafness. He was stupid to stick his neck out for a damn war that had nothing to do with him. Nobody is helping him now that he is getting worse. My deceased husband and other relative died fighting in various wars. I have been caregivers to concentration camp survivors over the years. My one contribution was drilling it into the heads of my 3 sons was that I didn't bring them into this world so some politician can order them to go fight in some war and get killed. The deal is, any war, anywhere IS NOT THEIR PROBLEM. NO SUCH THING AS PATRIOTISM OR WANTING PEACE FOR ANYBODY ELSE. THAT'S THE BS STARTED BY POLITICIANS WHEN THEY START WARS AND CON MEN INTOFIGHTING THEIR WARS. YUGOSLAVIA'S POLITICAL LEADERS STIR UP PROBLEMS AND HATRED ---THEY ARE THE ONES WHO START THE WARS!

[@davidmajer3652]

This was both informative and balanced. This brings back memories, of that time, when it was thought this would be the last time, we would see warfare in Europe.

[@Embrod]

History didn't end at all.

[@FictionHubZA]

It's funny how Europeans keep thinking their last war will be their last war.

[@dinok7630]

​@@FictionHubZAit was thought for a reason, everybody was starting to get nukes. Ukraine threw away their nukes because of whatever the fuck liberal reason and look where it got them. Nukes would have been a great equalizer between the two, now its just pure manpower domination.

[@SpeedRunningWarcrimes]

Been waiting for this!!!! Thank you

[@Vlad_-_-_]

To really show on what different level Iugoslavia was compared to Romania, a serb told me how a relative brought some chewing gum for some kids in Romania during the soviet era... those kids never saw gum before and were so damn happy for such a little thing.

[@varkonyitibor4409]

Nah just 10 years ago when I crossed the border from Kikinda to Jimbolia on a train the sign said welcome to EU but I felt I just exited EU. I dont know now bc Romania improved quite much in the last 10 years, but then the whole town was run down with ruined industry buildings and stray dogs.

[@Vlad_-_-_]

@@varkonyitibor4409 Even while in EU, plenty of cities with run down industries are still present in Romania. Yeah we progressed, but so much still needs doing.

[@mihaelac2472]

We did have some locally produced chewing gum that looked like little sticks, but it was not very good. Whenever you had acces to real chewing gum, especially the one you could make bubbles with, you were excited.

[@MarchKatze]

You know it’s controversial when this channel has to censor itself to prevent full rage in the comments

[@DD-qw4fz]

Nah its youtubes increasingly insane "rules"

[@dr.wahnsinn9913]

To be honest in this case it´s both. This topic can go balistic in no time.

[@DD-qw4fz]

@@dr.wahnsinn9913 nah its mostly an internet meme just look how many say the same and now search for the actual hate comments here. As someone from EX YU who was 7 when the war started only when someone talks shit/lies ppl react in not very polite manner.

[@lordhumungus1386]

actually,Croats had more help from Russia then from Germany when it came to weapons,it was smuggled through Hungary into Croatia,especially at the beginning before Croats managed to occupy JNA bases and get some proper weapons to defend itself. btw thank you for being neutral and objective,great work as always. pozdrav iz Rijeke.

[@taboulefattouch4744]

The weapons you are referring to were not Russian weapons. They were weapons from Ukraine (there was a huge arms industry in Ukraine before the fall of the USSR and huge stockpiles).

[@lordhumungus1386]

@@taboulefattouch4744 hmm..yes,it can be that I am not correctly informed about that..I know that it was sold by Russians to Croats..now,how it worked exactly,I do not know for sure and probably most of people do not know 'cause it was black market 'cause of weapon embargo.

[@taboulefattouch4744]

​@@lordhumungus1386 Correct. The collapsed Soviet Union was a huge depot of arms.and ammunition.

[@Embrod]

​@@taboulefattouch4744 just like Yugoslavia.

[@YourD3estinY]

​@@lordhumungus1386Probably some shady russian mafia types... But a lot of weapons from the GDR (East Germany) did get to Croatia despite the embargo. I guess they didn't need it anymore and found great way to get good money for it.

[@bianconerodeep151]

Brave topic I'm glad that someone started this topic on Balkan KZbin scene

[@SlavaStepaStepanovic]

My Father is from Ozijek he Flee to Germany. Sometimes he Speak about the War that they hat no Food and eat Donkey to Survive .

[@2240-t7z]

Greetings to your father from Slavonia!

[@ivansusec2718]

Respects to Thompson for dropping 2 albums and participating in Oluja

[@ПетарКарић]

И сад хрватска омладина уопште не слуша томсона јер слуша само српске цајке.

[@MilicijaKrajine]

He didn't participate, he didn't fight at all, only thing he did was pose and sing (make money) he is a war profiter like most singers from then

[@DD-qw4fz]

8:11 this part should have been mentioned before the usual (and frankly pretty annoying) reflex of trying to equate Tudman and Miloshewich and all other leaders as somehow "equally guilty". This process was a gradual one during the 80s , led by Belgrade before even Tudman, Kucan and all other independence leaning leaders came to prominence. By the time both Kucan (leader of Slovenia) and Tudman (leader of Croatia) decided it was enough and went for independence, Serbia under Miloshevich already destroyed Yugoslavs pre war republic positions and autonomies of Kosovo and Vojvodina, and strongarmed Montenegro with its local Serb agitators in the well know "yogurt revolution", essentially turning them into a Belgrade puppet. Similar pressure was also tried (and failed) in Croatia. So how is one national leader clearly wanting to dominate other republics somehow no different than those just wanting to get the hell away and be left alone ? Hard not to see the paralels in Russian invasion on Ukraine (which got some really gnarly ovations in Serbia), and lots of ppl (mostly closet Z supporters, lets be real) see a bigger problem in Zelnskys refusal to give up his country and sign a peace deal with Putin, and not in Russias invasion. What those ppl always conveniently "forget" is that peace would mean at least partial occupation...something Croatia was cynically pressured numerous times during the 90s wars by the west, especially Britain and France who saw Serbs as the "good guys of ww2"... Not to mention the Russian anti Ukraine propaganda that has all of the schizzo elements of Serbian 90s propaganda, calling Croats and Bosniacs "fake nations, fascists, and turks" while at the same time claiming they are all Serbs, "they just dont know it because they were created by evil Vatican Catholic church and Turks ". Also please stop with the whole "ppl being misled by propaganda and nationalism" myth that also usually just feeds into "all equally guilty", yes in war there is ofc propaganda, that doesnt change the fact everyone not a Serb wanted to get the hell out from a new Serb hegemony on the rise, led by Miloshevich. Also Yugo wars arent that complicated, it became an internet meme but more worrying it became a lazy justification for outsiders, both historians and politicians, to be both lazy in research and more worrying manipulating history for their own theories and ideas. On of the worst and most prominent was Chomsky with his "its all and always is Americas fault" diverting any responsibility from local players (Serbia) and turning it yet into another comical story of western conspiracy to destroy a socialist country, that would make even retards like Alex Jones blush.

[@ПетарКарић]

Хрвати махали наци заставама током рата.

[@mrasabaharsa-kq2fn]

​@@ПетарКарић to su samo srbijanci u HR, BiH i na albanskom kosovu

[@ПетарКарић]

​@@mrasabaharsa-kq2fnНе, него хрватијански војници у Бугојну.

[@mrasabaharsa-kq2fn]

@@ПетарКарић srpski vojnici u srebrenici u vukovaru...i u bilo kojim hrvatskom, bosanskom i Albanskom gradu

[@ПетарКарић]

​@@mrasabaharsa-kq2fnНемаш ниједне фотографије српских војника са нцистчкм заставом из другог светског рата а у Хрватској као и за време рата а тако и сада цртају к. Крстове по фудбалским теренима, школама и вртићима а ено имаш и фотографију хрвата у Бугојну.

[@Leo-ok3uj]

2 things, one real and one ridiculous 1- The reason why Yugoslavia printed so much money and took so many loans was because Tito was sure that capitalism was about to collapse (of course, it wasn’t, the one about to collapse was communism) 2- The moment a Croat stopped being in power and a Serbian became the head of power in Yugoslavia then everything went down, coincidence?

[@tomgu2285]

Yugoslavia was state capitalistic. My father told me how west Germany was more socialist then Yugoslavia. There was nothing socialist about Yugoslavia. And Tito was half slovenian and half croat...

[@tomgu2285]

Well it's not a coincidence idiot. If the serbian politician is political on the far right no wonder shit is going down. However if the serbian politician was a leftist nothing would have happend.

[@tomgu2285]

And capitalism failed many times already is just capitalism keeps getting made again as this main system.

[@TheSouth-j7f]

@@tomgu2285 If the old socialist Yugoslavia was capitalist why was the Yugoslav communist party in charge of it. Are you reading your Dobrica Ćosić doctrine properly?

[@tomgu2285]

​@@TheSouth-j7f how can someone be this retarded???

[@raven143]

The comment section will totally be civil

[@mottom2657]

Small correction at 15:40, Tuđman died in 1999.

[@gp-1542]

I don’t think the wounds will ever heal properly

[@Croatianforever]

Vukovar still has the remains from it

[@drivanradosivic1357]

the wounds will not heal, especially since the as.sho.les in power want to keep them open and bleeding.

[@TundeEszlari]

I love your videos.

[@floricel_112]

3:25 don't say it....don't say those cursed 3 words 3:28 NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@epicstar86]

This is just beautiful, amazing work!

[@balsa0108]

Nice video. I would like if you put serbian titles( if it is possible) for us from ex yu countries. But still a good video. Hope you will make part 2 and aslo finish this "serijal". Bravo!

[@skin4700]

Brat nas bosanac oduvik odlican,objektivan i zdrav u glavi. Samo nastavi zmaju najjaci si youtuber na balkanu. Tesko je napravit dobar video na ovo pogotovo kad ljudi znaju odakle si i sta si. Svaki video (inace ne tvoj) ima grupu internet cetnika i ustasa u komentarima. Jadni prerano se rodili da bi lazirali ozljedu pa se sada bore na internetu.

[@Dotalol123]

Druže ti ljudi postoje samo na internetu, oni nisu stvarni jer ne izlaze napolje, samo sede u kući i seru po Kuriru/Indexu i klixu, ja kada sam bio klinac sam zbog njih mislio da će neko da me ubije ako odem u Bosnu, ili Hrvatsku, ali posle kada sam počeo da putujem sam provalio da su oni samo glasna manjina, na svakim izborima hvala Bogu njihove stranke ne naberu ni 2%...

[@dmnn69]

you should totally collab with boy boy, one of the guys there fled the yugoslav wars when he was a kid

[@siveric32]

You my friend have just opened a Pandora's box in the comment section 😂😂

[@pah967]

It is infinitely funny that your sponsor for this video is War Thunder. 0 days since an awesome video was released on this channel.

[@bobeven3663]

Really good video, will you cover the conflict in Macedonia in 2002?

[@bondy7564]

I remember there were Yugo dealerships in the UK still in the early ‘90’s….I didn’t see many driving around though.

[@krunoslavkovacec1842]

Pozdrav iz Hrvatske, Janoš

[@objectivefun5700]

I love my Croatia

[@ivansprlje9689]

when you mentioned the massacres in Vukovar, Škabrnja, Gospić... Mention who did them in the way you said in this video, it seems as if they were committed by Croats, not Serbs because after all, all those mass graves were dug by Serbs to put Croats in the ground and make the world forget that we existed at all, just like they did to the Bosnians in Srebrenica,... (Croatian/Serbian child)

[@liviodefranza]

I remember back in early 2000s (after the war), on Croatian TV there were comments on a TV show: "Yugoslavs were so stupid to break up Yugoslavia so violently, we should have separated peacefully like URSS, look Russia and Ukraine as example, they didn't went to war". Fast forward 20 years later, Russia and Ukraine at war, young Croats going massively to Serbia to enjoy nightlife in Belgrade, Serbs coming to Croatia for holidays and seasonal work in tourism. I could never imagine 20yrs ago that Croatia and Serbia would become an example of reconciliation for Russia & Ukraine.

[@historybalkans-dq5ig]

Croats were attacked, they had no couce, they had to defend theirselves 🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷

[@dlibreman]

In 09:29 you said that former ustasha officials were in croatian government, can you give some names?

[@LivingIronicallyinEurope]

The most famous example was Ivo Rojnica, however, many although many didn't directly serve the Ustasa regime, a lot of officials were sympathetic to them such as Ivan Gabelica & Dobroslav Paraga.

[@dlibreman]

@@LivingIronicallyinEurope So just one, and he was appointed as ambassador to Argentina. The others weren't even born or were infants when NDH existed. As you guys say in Serbia "klizavo batice".

[@adfi5316]

​@@LivingIronicallyinEuropeWhen the Bosnian war video came out? After this video or after the video of poll's suggestion?

[@Tech_Raven]

Your attention is very much needed in Artsakh, Armenia! 🇦🇲 Please consider researching about Artsakh and Armenia. Right now the Armenians there are facing ethnic cleaning and the situation is similar to what you are describing, it is only getting worse. The Armenians need everybody's help more than ever! Thank you in advance! @LivingIronicallyinEurope This is an informational video. It is important to not take sides (e.g. when writing this comment), because that can result in bias and unrelieble information. At the same time ignorance and neutrality will not help either (for example innocent people, etc.). On the other side, people can learn about and take actions against inequity/injustice and the wrongdoings that is still present in many parts of the world which thereby make difference. This is just common sense and source criticism. Currently and for a long time the totalitarian state of Azerbaijan (sometimes with the help of its allies Russia, Turkey and Israel) have tried to among other things, remove Armenians from Artsakh, take away their human rights as well as their own people's, conduct/carry out and promote ethnic genocide and an anti armenian sentiment." Armenians are native to the Armenian highlands. The world must pay attention to blankspots like this, condemn the hypocrisy, double standards and those responsible in order to stop these bad things from happening.

[@mikage1990]

There was a guy named Stjepan Radiic.. between World War 1 and World War 2 he said in Belgrade Parlament basically "Yooo guys.. Jugoslavia is a bad idea i dont recommend uniting all of us" and serbian guy shoot him in the back.. so yeah... you saw the result..

[@ПетарКарић]

Није га упуцао Србин већ Црногорац што бре лажеш људе.

[@clericaltotalitarian]

@@ПетарКарић Crnogorci su Srbi... sta lupetas ti...

[@ПетарКарић]

@@clericaltotalitarian Ма ззм се шта ти је ниси ваљда помислио да сам озбиљан?

[@jackpejkovic1325]

Stjepan Radic said in Parliament .How much is Serbian Blood worth a Serb from Montenegro shot him and said now it's paid for.

[@TwinkieCakey]

I know you're a Romanian bro, but this coming from a Croatian bro, you pronounced them cities better than anyone so far I heard. Bruh even I can't sometimes pronounce Dubrovnik properly.

[@MIGBMWLOVER]

its weird that this happenedc only 30 years ago.

[@SarsTheSecond]

Serbs evacuated Krajina according to thir plan. They even had exercises for that.

[@ПетарКарић]

Александра Зец није.

[@milstarac432]

​@@ПетарКарић Jedna jedina civilna osoba..! A koliko su Srbi pobili civila u Hrvatskoj , posebno u Vukovaru, cak i teskih, nepokretnih ranjenika iz bolnice? Na stotine njih.. Opseg, masovnost i neopisiva zvjerstva ratnih zlocina koje su pocinili Srbi neusporedivo su veci od onih par malobrojnih koje su pocinili neki pojedinacni Hrvati..!! I vi Srbi to dobro znate, samo se, tipicno za vas, pravite blesavi!.. 👹😱🤡

[@fellowbalkaner09]

I fucking knew there was going to be a new upload!!

[@konstantinlozev2272]

Wow, great content!

[@mikepj67]

Nice work enjoying your content.

[@alexiosmonary3388]

great premire, i especially enjoyed the thumbnail. mind if i screan shot it?

[@Adamf-ut1jf]

Yes

[@LivingIronicallyinEurope]

knock yourself out

[@alexiosmonary3388]

​@@LivingIronicallyinEuropewhat happened to my beautiful thumbnail

[@mrblimbo1359]

Im glad a balkaner is covering this. Cause most westerenes dont really understand this. Some say its a civil war and such

[@LEONSKENNEDY91]

and usually one-side the situation, making it black and white

[@zoranablazinovic222]

It was civil ethnic and religious war. Mix of everything

[@nuvon-kn3se]

​@@zoranablazinovic222 it was a serbian aggression on muslim and catholic people

[@ПетарКарић]

​@@nuvon-kn3seСрпска агресија на Србе католике и Србе муслимане. 🙂

[@nekenug-rn4hw]

@@ПетарКарић mislis agresija pravoslavnih turaka i bivskih osmanskih janjicara na evropskoj civiliaziji...kao prije kad su srbi i turci napali hrvatsku

[@ZZimaJr]

Serbs werent expelled in 95.

[@mskero94]

best war thunder ad ever

[@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe]

It's not started after WW2. It started after WW1 with the "Serb Croat Slovenian Kingdom" which was almost fall apart back as a not working but then... Nazis and Italians invade, so falling apart delayed, and then only after that come the Tito era. Seriusly when any Slav talk about "Pan Slav" empires, they so proud, and when they come to the "lest make it again" part they start to kill each other. Tito basicly kept together a country which was destined to collapse long before Tito took power. And he remained neutral, while Jugoslavia (or the Serb-Croat... you know that thing) before that was both designed as a Russian/Soviet Puppet state on the first place. You know, when the Serb kid killed the Austrian in.... BOSNIA. So I think Tito was pretty cool guy. And those Croatian Nationalist Ideologies are date back to the 1800s. I mean, when the so blamed with "Magyarization" Hungary intervention needed to Austria to keep the "Independent Royal city" status of the back then mostly italian Fiume against the Croatian nationalists.. But at the end of the day, the Balkan is just a mess anyway.

[@zoranablazinovic222]

Funny fuct Yugoslavia was Croatian idea from XIX century. For them that was a way to liberate from AH.

[@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe]

@@zoranablazinovic222 I don't know about this detail, but if it's true than ironic that the Serbians made the most to make it happen, and the Croatians hated the concept the most.

[@zoranablazinovic222]

@@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe Yes they create Illyrian movement in 1830 with a goal to unite people of same language on the teritorries of former roman province Illyricum.

[@matomajor5124]

15:35 Didn't he died in 1999?

[@ThePetar13]

Yes, he died in 1999

[@kamajuchikekenate]

NIKAD SE VISE NEPONOVILO!! NADAM SE DA SU NASI NARODI NAUCILI STA IZ ONOG RATA I DA CE PRESTATI BITI BEZPOTREBNO NAPASNI JEDNI DRUGIMA!!!

[@dinok7630]

Nisu nista, nasi ljudi su preglupi da ih ne bi kontrolirala mrznja.

[@kamajuchikekenate]

@@dinok7630 Znam,ali se nadam da ce jednom vec nauciti da je vec dosta bezpotrebnog prolivanja krvi i da suradnja je bolja alternativa... Nadam se da ce nasim narodima jednom doci iz guzice u glavu i da ce Ultranacioalizam prestati podrzavati,jer nikad nije nista dobro za narud,sem bogatih sta doprinjelo...

[@guccicat_12]

Bespotrebno? Mi i Slovenci i Bosanci smo se branili od srpske agresije... Sori ako je većina htjela biti van Jugoslavije nije bilo potrebe od JNA bezobrazno okupirati i činiti genocide...

[@kamajuchikekenate]

NISAM REKAO DA JE ODBRANA BILA BEZPOTREBNA NEGO NAPAD NA PRVOM MJESTU!@@guccicat_12

[@milstarac432]

Ljudski rod nikad nista ne nauci iz proslosti, pa nece ni ovaj puta!! Zato se i vode ratovi kroz cijelu povijest, bez prestanka, vec tisuce godina!