The Z Button Challenge

[@serioustable8659]

When Pannen drives he tries to drive with the least amount of brake presses... "Right here you would normally have to push the brakes once, but if you drive over the sidewalk it can be avoided. If someone is in the way, you will have to jump out of the car and move them and then get back in the car before it gets back on the road." "Once you reach the store, you just have to drive in circles until the vehicle comes to a stop. However, if someone is in the way, you'd have to push the brakes once to stop. This can be avoided by driving through the door of the store. You need to have a pixel perfect position to be able to go through the door. This also needs to be frame perfect, otherwise the door will not be open in time."

[@lucy6472]

Serious Table what about gas%

[@lapotato9140]

don't even get me started on QPU alignment

[@atavoidturk9025]

amazing

[@bramnemeth565]

minimum number of stickshift maneuvers

[@Spacell]

Serious Table I love this comment so much...

[@Yowesephth]

I love that even concepts as simple as crawling into an igloo are too pedestrian for the mighty pannen, he has to be a showoff and phase through the back like the 5 dimensional being he is.

[@poopfart785]

the first thing I thought was, the igloo is unavoidable. I've never been so wrong in my life.

[@noobiesensei6281]

+Joey Bonzo It seems like you don't even need TAS precision to avoid that one.

[@poopfart785]

Noobie Sensei I was so certain, and it was effortlessly destroyed

[@noobiesensei6281]

Joey Bonzo​ I know your feeling.

[@enhasiac4153]

Pretty sure you can just do a jump-dive to slide into it, no glitching required

[@spootot]

I like how it's 50 PUs to fall into the gap right beside Mario

[@spootot]

fair enough

[@KoopaKaper]

So he makes it back to the main map so the loading zone is actually there...

[@sean1997102]

Koopa Kaper yes, it's a joke. thank you very much.

[@kellygirard3997]

spoot fhubhvguigrugireuiguiicigiigue

[@acsty2328]

But you wouldn’t be QPU aligned.

[@Icesan4096]

"From A to Y!" "A to Y?" "Yeah, A to Y, the alphabet, you know." "How about Z?" *"Z?"*

[@Brandonator365]

UltimateMemeMaster21 underrated comment

[@check_about_right_fucking_now]

should be this: "From A to Y!" "A to Y?" "Yeah, A to Y, you know the alphabet." "How about Z?" "Z?"

[@dashyz3293]

Spongebob reference.

[@FooFooANIMATIONS]

A B C, L R Z, now I know my ABC's

[@koshkamatew]

Should have been "From B to Z"

[@ScykohPlays]

Not restricting any button in particular, I wonder what is the minimum number of button presses required to beat the game any%.

[@littleawesomeapple]

And we still get the fruit back, yeah!

[@Flux3on]

@@littleawesomeapple an hour ago

[@MrGlitch_YT]

nvm

[@official-obama]

@@MrGlitch_YT but, for example, bljs make it faster, but it uses a lot of button presses

[@MrGlitch_YT]

@@official-obama True

[@lucy6472]

Ahh, my favourite show. Pancake man breaks Superb Italian Plumbing Simulator

[@SoLinkSmash]

I always get so excited when the four PU screens show up :) And also whenever File Select plays. It makes me feel right at home.

[@RedstoNeman0]

wait this is the first major button we can actually never use?

[@dracibatic2433]

Iyadcqnsdqsl'o Ai² not exactly

[@necrobonesgaming2424]

Just you wait, soon we'll be at 0x a presses

[@StonkeyKong]

Necrobones Plus we need 0x B presses as well since the Any% is at 4x right now.

[@Summer_Tea]

In the future we will all play SM64 with our minds.

[@KoopaKaper]

R

[@darrenwong4036]

You could probably make a April fools video on April 1st, giving detailed explanations on no controller challenge, no cartridge challenge, etc. Any absurd no X challenges

[@Dexuz]

And remember the no challenge challenge.

[@wispy9859]

no analog stick challenge ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@wispy9859]

mountain dew made of dew from a mountain Oh, thats easy. You got me.

[@lapotato9140]

the invest in bitcoin challenge

[@The_mario_fan]

No D Button Challenge No Rumble Pak Challenge No 64DD Challenge No Electricity Challenge No Technology Challenge

[@Vado]

Still waiting for the no controller challenge

[@Christer2222]

The only way to win is not to play?

[@irisvaldez-porter4463]

Use an emulator and keyboard.

[@Dexuz]

I'm waiting for the no game challenge.

[@shoopdahoop2221]

Dexuz i'm waiting for the no-console challenge

[@DecaspearGamex]

WITH KINECT, YOU ARE THE CONTROLLER!

[@kunstkritik]

Only thing missing now is the minimum buttons challenge

[@UltraAryan10]

No Button Challenge/ABZ Challenge

[@dootdoodle569]

Kunstkritik m.kzbin.info/aero/PLmvvhlevqC2fXLL55ZQT1cesNmM2qHPn1

[@saraha180]

"showing a separate video for every star wouldn't be very interesting" That's fair Pannen, but I think you're underestimating how much people like your videos.

[@crlyfryz8049]

1:03 But you can get in the cage with some crazy elaborate negative momentum thing right? 1:08 .... well that works

[@gumgrapes]

The A button...A forbidden technique, but far stronger than any other...

[@dootdoot6130]

+Worded Puppet "A"yy

[@tentenzzz828]

yee

[@marshythemarshtomp]

Its PU Movement.

[@Lemify]

Mega Lucario 👀

[@fancetheperson3394]

How many times have you pressed the upload button

[@dracibatic2433]

FanceThePerson 3... or more

[@pkscarlet4549]

KeybladeGuru 13. I prefer japanese food.

[@protocetid]

Once for the first upload and keeps it held for subsequent ones.

[@eac-ox2ly]

None. You can use "tab" to select different sections of a webpage, then when you have the upload button selected you press enter.

[@TheLucarioBaoJunior]

Voshchronos _ KZbin in 0.5 enter presses.

[@dannyhayes1293]

ZBC just doesn't roll off the tongue as well, y'know?

[@gamefoun]

Danny Hayes it does when you pronounce it zee bee see

[@dracibatic2433]

Danny Hayes ZBC? Oh, nvm. Got it

[@ajddavid452]

The Foun try saying it like "Zed Bee See" that will be a lot harder

[@gamefoun]

ajddavid452 I know, that is why I said zee bee see

[@accuratejaney8140]

conchudo12345 I ZED BEE SEE!!

[@BgXERO]

I love people like you who devote so much time to show content like this from one game. So much like the Strider guy who does glitches for Paper Mario. I just love it.

[@LAppelDuVideo]

So you're saying that when the PU entry to the moat door/VCutM was found, we shouldn't have been excited for a 1-key run, we instead should have been excited for saving a Z press for the VCutM entry? :P

[@DialektLp]

LAppelDuVideo two presses

[@MateusSFigueiredo]

1-key run?

[@UltraAryan10]

@@MateusSFigueiredo Only collecting 1 bowser key instead of required 2.

[@sinistar3198]

So, what would a minimum ABZ challenge look like? In order to avoid some Z presses, you create new A presses. Is this at all interesting or does the number of ABZ necessary presses total remain the same?

[@heave-ho6864]

He has a playlist on his main channel of stars that can be done without pressing any buttons at all except the camera buttons - just search "No Buttons Allowed" and you'll find it.

[@sinistar3198]

This isn't quite what I mean. Let's say you have a run that's 37 A presses, 10 B presses, and 4 Z presses. Does it happen a lot of the time that if you eliminate an A press, you'll wind up with something like 36 A presses, 11 B presses, 4 Z presses?

[@sinistar3198]

Eh, nevermind, now that I'm more awake, the question doesn't seem so interesting. \:

[@groszak1]

A Button Zhallenge?

[@UltraAryan10]

@@groszak1 Its actually ABZBC but shortened to ABZ Challenge

[@xangelmoonx]

3 vids in a row, I'm busting a fierce Seedot, as they can learn explosion.

[@odogaron]

XAngel MoonX ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@Hextator]

the 🇿 🇿utton 🇿hallenge

[@superbaldi3307]

🅿🆗er

[@iLiokardo]

ze*

[@blokos_]

the legend of z

[@damanorelse]

When you go on dates, when do you bring up your hobby?

[@EatMoreChikenOrElse]

Actually curious about this.

[@dylanobrien3785]

It's probably the first thing that he brings up. Nothing gets a girl wetter than mad Super Mario 64 skills.

[@manjackson2772]

there's some assumptions in this question

[@vaultdweller94]

Now why would he waste all that time doing that?

[@SNMG7664]

no time for dates, all mario 64 all the time

[@disctr4k69]

3:37 'It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye…' ~ Sam 'Serious' Stone, 2001. Mario lost an eye when it went into the wall.

[@ParaTheRaccoonie]

Great content as usual, Pannen! It could be interesting to see a run where all jumping-related inputs must use the Z-Button related jumps.

[@Sauraen]

Like an inverse Z Button Challenge--have the Z button held all the time you're not pressing other buttons, and press the Z button at the same time as you press any other button. Would be a lot of crawling though...

[@UltraAryan10]

There are many ways to cancel a crawl. So such tricks could be used.

[@check_about_right_fucking_now]

heres the a list: normal a jump standing still: backflip normal a jump moving: long jump a+z= ground pound

[@mreggnog9919]

Time: 6:40 What to play: Mario 64 No: A presses Normal day for UncommentatedPannen

[@cannyhuang7489]

Woah

[@ARandomSpace]

But Pannen has to press A to jump out of bed and to study. He has to press A to make a video, since he can’t commentate because it’s hard. You never specified where he can’t press A.

[@thewildjamie3283]

No Z button Any% TAS when?

[@raydarable]

the wild jamie I'm pretty sure the normal any% tas doesn't use the Z button.

[@thewildjamie3283]

I know, I'm just joking.

[@raydarable]

the wild jamie I'm not certain though.

[@raydarable]

the wild jamie A 100% Tas would be cool though.

[@jongyon7192p]

raydarable It uses BLJ 2x for moat door skip, for DDD bowser sub skip, 50 star door and endless stairs skip, and others.

[@heave-ho6864]

I've noticed that when Mario does a slidekick off a ledge, he bounces higher than when he does a slidekick on the ground. How does the game calculate how high Mario bounces? Is it a function of his vertical speed or his initial height?

[@dracibatic2433]

Heave-Ho smart question. I wonder too

[@UltraAryan10]

Gravity is halved while performing a Slide Kick and becaus the first bounce of Slide Kick is considered an air action... Um it does something afterwards idk.

[@meta04]

github.com/SM64-TAS-ABC/sm64_source/blob/c44ae2f3687ad83e6adf63f390fa188a89e52180/src/game/mario_actions_airborne.c#L1599 ...ok so it's "if you land during the first part of the slide kick action and your Y speed is less than zero [you're moving downwards], your Y speed is set to (- Y speed) / 2 and the second part of the slide kick begins" so if your Y speed is -26 (top DR VSC speed but negative) when you land then it becomes +13

[@heave-ho6864]

@@meta04 Thanks volleo

[@PsychorGames]

Screw it, we need to invent the No Button challenge. How feasible is it to beat Mario without pressing a single button?

[@LucasIsHereYT]

Shoutouts to the OG ABC crew who were given the crappy 3rd party controllers.

[@bepistm3124]

2:37 i think we're all pretty familiar with this 100 coin star by now

[@pydink1628]

*starts building up speed* oh no, man, he's doing it again

[@ScottJoC]

I once completed the 0 L button challenge. I got all 120 stars. It was brutal.

[@MarioDSLife]

This is the most I’ve ever seen Pannen use the A button!

[@Dr0dd]

All this just so Mario doesn't have to get a sore butt.

[@Pacca64]

Now we need a no B *and* no Z button challenge.

[@groszak1]

This challenge would be permanently squished emulator.

[@nelsonnicholson6175]

A Z Press is a Z Press. You can't say it's avoidable.

[@dracibatic2433]

Nope Nelson where did this meme come from. Please tell me

[@contramuffin5814]

dragonvale19 it's from Watch for Falling Rocks in 0.5x A Presses, on Pannen's other channel. He pretty much spends 25 minutes describing the lengths he goes to just to save 0.5x A presses (he runs in place for 12 hours)

[@Dexuz]

Nope Nelson Well Nope """"Nelson"""" The Z presses exist in all the PU's so you really don't press the button, the button presses you.

[@kphoenix137]

0.5 z presses

[@beunjoris]

​@@dracibatic2433 draciii

[@Zephrophyx]

I remember playing the game without pressing Z. My controller was broken. Felt bad man.

[@Agent-517]

when you see the spd in the top left you know shit's about to start

[@protocetid]

I wish a prototype of this game would leak to see what crazy shit the speedrunners would do in it.

[@brendanthewolf2822]

Pannenkoek's therapist: The button can't hurt you, they don't exist. The buttons: Allow us to introduce ourselves

[@gnusnotutopia]

We need the Start Button Challenge.

[@UAUU-on5pb]

It's here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4i2pICdf7h-b5o

[@IceManD3]

next is the ultimate " no button press " challenge

[@RandomTermite426]

Now beat the game without pressing A,B, or Z.

[@PokeMaster22222]

3:55 You had to go right 50 PUs just to enter a hole you were right in front of? That just looks really weird...

[@soouG.]

well he had to go back to the original pu eventually

[@beanbottler]

I can never tell if all these glowing positive comments on Pannen's videos are sarcastic or genuine

[@eymed2023]

I heard a story of a player who didn't have fingers because he cut them up while working with wood. But even then, he was able to beat SM64 so many times that he got BORED of the game and tradeud it. So apparently, the Z-Button isn't as important as the A and B buttons.

[@Zerio105]

1:15 Earwig

[@nediaoken]

he what are you doing tonight? i am gonna wait 92 minutes for the right speed so I can skip 2 Z presses in super mario 64

[@veddy1674]

You can just beat SM64 with only 4 z presses on 0 stars (2 keys) - LBLJ to BitDW - SBLJ to BitFS - 50 Stars staircase BLJ - 70 Stars staircase BLJ on 1 key run, you still need 4 z presses - BLJ Outside to moat skip - SBLJ to BitFS - 50 Stars staircase BLJ - 70 Stars staircase BLJ

[@noobiesensei6281]

Pannen - We have to press Z three times during the fight with King Whomp, since we have to ground pound his back three times in all Me - Yeah sure *Pannen proceeds to jump through King to ground pound his back* Me - WHAAAAAAAAA- Shit looks like it doesn't even have to be TAS to do it this way.

[@groszak1]

Well, jumping through king whomp is one of the 0.01% of things that doesn't have to be TAS.

[@1234macro]

A pannenkoek video is incomplete without the 4 PU screens

[@summar-ice]

NOTE: You can't clone in JRB so don't say you can avoid that ground pound

[@loneranger4282]

Why not though?

[@thatoneguy33198]

every time i see the PU trick I think of star trek warp speed

[@user-fk6zx2fq4e]

this guy is a genius

[@minuspi8372]

I always find it strangely funny when the star celebration gets cut off early

[@Spongeyknight6491]

Mario traveling to a different pu just so he doesn't have to ground pound

[@The-Thomas-and-Sonic-Guy]

Maybe the counter can be only 3 Z presses i don't if you can make the koppa shell in jrb to clone things like in ddd please try it because im bad at cloning things with the koppa shells :I

[@mygills3050]

Eventually, pannen was able to beat Mario 64 with his Atari controller

[@Lugmillord]

So much jumping... Well, this challenge seems absolutely perfected, unless a glitch will be discovered that allows you to somehow spanw new objects or whatever. But since you made these three videos, I'm worried that you don't have that many ideas for the A challenge left. Anyways, these other challenges are also worth a watch.

[@mechayoshi9250]

You mean to tell me that there’s no coin duplication glitches in JRB?

[@melo0611]

But... You can just press L...

[@nahnah390]

So the only way to clone coins is with a bombomb, right?

[@mathphysicsnerd]

Any unloaded item (anything that Mario can carry) can be used to clone a coin

[@nahnah390]

So if that's the case, does that mean that the water koopa shells are too finicky to work with?

[@rotalsh]

nahnah390 It is possible to clone shells as long as there is a loading zone

[@lisamariefan]

He uses a water shell in this very video when talking about saving a z press in the DDD 100 coins.

[@dracibatic2433]

lisamariefan so why not in JRB?

[@Minty_Meeo]

So, it's a truly beatable challenge. Nice.

[@KevinIsNice6984]

3:25 oh no not this again

[@tribiuz9557]

i want to do a a z-move joke from pokemon but i dont know how

[@seba83888]

Broken Stick Challenge

[@ErikMm5]

but is there a 0.5 Z button press?

[@Imran-fy4vb]

if you hold Z from the start of the level

[@theSato]

well.. it doesn't have quite the same application as an 0.5 a press lol

[@Rhino1004]

Remember: Holding down Z makes you crawl. Speedrun tactics.

[@mikul9204]

If you couldn't clip into the igloo, you would need a 0.5 z press to crawl into the igloo

[@prexot2341]

Rhino1004 Like that one TAS competitio, where he crawled all the way across Shifting Sand Land

[@jetstreamjackie3437]

Is there no cloning exploit in JRB? I could've sworn you made a coin high score video on it...

[@BrettMKW]

No bob-ombs, no cork boxes. You can grab the shell like in DDD and take it out of water but there's no loading zone to trigger the cloning effect so no, as of right now there's no exploit.

[@groszak1]

There are 104 coins in JRB and -either she collected 104 coins or- he collected them. Edit: He has a male voice

[@UltraAryan10]

No cloning method in JRB has been discovered so far. You can't grab a shell fake without a loading zone.

[@thefane8682]

So when are we going to beat SM64 without any button presses at all?

[@teh_supar_hackr]

Good thing my N64's controller can only regester d-pad, start, L, c buttons, and only up on the joystick. Now even I can beat this game!

[@guyug6940]

Can you beat KZbin with 0 upload button presses?

[@Memerath]

3:01 anyone else get anxious from that jump

[@thiagovscoelho]

pretty neat that Z presses aren't really that much required

[@9nameuser]

And to avoid pressing Z you have to press A and B.

[@XFanmarX]

I haven't played this game in over a decade why am I watching this!?

[@InstallaFriend]

One day he'll find out a way of beating the game without picking up the controller

[@JediJess1]

it's also possible to beat the game with 0 stars and 0 Z presses

[@Imran-fy4vb]

nope

[@JediJess1]

first frame walljumps... and maybe a frame perfect dive for initial speed. keeping in mind this'd be for 0 star, not 1 key.

[@alecsjoholm3970]

JediJess1 DDD skip requires a Z press.

[@shmoppl3320]

L button challenge

[@mightyboole]

I wonder how many Z presses a 0 Star run would take

[@MateusSFigueiredo]

The_Mighty_ Boole that's the any% run

[@mightyboole]

Mateus Figueiredo yeah, but if you would follow SM64 runs, you would notice that the Any% run is called 0 Star in this game you idiot.

[@mightyboole]

And I mean without HSWK.

[@MateusSFigueiredo]

The_Mighty_ Boole check the tables at 4:08 before calling someone an idiot. There's no need to be rude

[@mightyboole]

Mateus Figueiredo I know that some people sometimes call it Any%, but take the official Speedrun.com leaderboards as an example. They also say 0 Star, the same goes for like every split for this game. They say 0, 1, 16, 70, 120 or whatever the heck category they're for. And I did'nt meant to offend you, I'm very sorry for that.

[@ends9138]

Z button challange *LAUGHS FROM SM64DS*

[@The_Mister_E]

I never knew why we couldn't just get behind and kick King Whomp...

[@sawnikk]

Next video: How many licks dos sit take to get to the center of a Tootsie pop?

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmm]

SM64-To the Center of the Tootsie Pop-0x Licks

[@MarioFan587YT]

jdjsnsnsaga yeheh 270

[@607]

Wait, an iglo in Snowman's land? I don't think I've ever been there! :o

[@TheJayKayA]

3:40 ok i get now, why you didnt show the 1-key-tas-route in the b-button-challenge-video...because you'd have to re-record that part (for skipping B1-grab) for this here, as blj involves Z! :D

[@bentonstacy6315]

That PU movement looks a tad familiar...

[@firehearto087]

Benton Stacy ikr

[@samuelwilson818]

cant you clone coins to avoid the ground pound blue coin thing that would allow you to get as many coins as you wanted

[@airtoumfake]

Samuel Wilson In JRB you can't clone coins

[@dracibatic2433]

No bob-ombs, no cork boxes. You can grab the shell like in DDD and take it out of the water but there's no loading zone to trigger the cloning effect, so no, as of right now there's no exploit. .~BrettMKW No, you can't clone in JRB. The only grabbable object is the shell, but there's no loading point in JRB to make the shell fake. ~Timestoppa Samuel Wilson In JRB you can't clone coins ~Aidan Lesh I dont know exactly how it works, but here you go.

[@raijoukonishi9868]

So basically Mario is faster than flash

[@minithemini4580]

90 minutes just to avoid 2 Z presses? Doesn't seem worth it to me.

[@boerhae]

MiniTheMini normie d e t e c t e d

[@mitchelharris3352]

Instead of ground pounding the blue coin block in JRB, couldn't you clone the yellow or red coins in order to achieve the 100 coin star??? Or is there nothing in the level you can use to create a clone

[@Sauraen]

The water shell can be used for cloning, but there's no load point to take it through.

[@magikaru]

What's the fewest total number of A, B, and Z button presses required to complete the game?

[@Swagdimite-gi5sq]

You should go to AGDQ and do some kind of speed run challenge

[@nicholaswade6527]

as you can see I build up speed for 90 minutes

[@mutantbreadslice6230]

3:26 now we build up speed for 12 hours.

[@teamawesomeness7137]

ZBC? You in a landlocked country in Eastern Africa now?

[@Mathematrix7]

The Z button doesn’t work on my n64 controller this’ll work great for me

[@ImSquiggs]

I’m waiting for the Button Audit challenge, where all button presses are counted and the lowest number wins. Like a Controller Low% run, haha

[@mmmm768]

Here we...

[@lessylessy]

Is anybody gonna look for a way to get rid of the jjb star any time soon? I do feel like this challenge is a dud to get it to 0, but 3 might, just barely be possible.

[@Loliwut]

did you consider making a video about maximal button efficiency overall while making these? it'd be interesting to see how little interaction is actually required to complete the game

[@theopoldthegamer4284]

See the No Buttons Allowed series!

[@kirbysbestfan]

Next challenge: 0 button presses on 120 star.

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

can't you clone in Jolly roger Bay?

[@dracibatic2433]

Blake Blast i dunno! No bob-ombs, no cork boxes. You can grab the shell like in DDD and take it out of the water but there's no loading zone to trigger the cloning effect, so no, as of right now there's no exploit. .~BrettMKW No, you can't clone in JRB. The only grabbable object is the shell, but there's no loading point in JRB to make the shell fake. ~Timestoppa Samuel Wilson In JRB you can't clone coins ~Aidan Lesh I dont know exactly how it works, but here you go.