8 Craziest Group B Rally Cars

[@MexicanCheese805]

Every group B rally car was crazy

[@rume8776]

they weren't crazy they are always crazy

[@Dawwwg]

* batshit crazy

[@antonjansson706]

yes my skoda to

[@benji280792]

@Davit Andreasyan they where... The accident of the stratos ended the group b.

[@benji280792]

@Davit Andreasyan thats Right, my bad. The stratos was engaged before the delta. Some group b, where engaged in the Dakar.

[@bonofrancou2]

Wait ? Stratos on Grupo B ? Stratos is a Group 4 car

[@The303Garage]

Yeah, for some reason I thought it was Group B car. Oops.

[@bonofrancou2]

The303Garage ahaha its ok xD

[@Misano-Red]

Always a joy to watch Stratos footage....

[@StevDoesBigJumps]

Well, you could call it a group B when you look at how tough it was to drive.

[@noahjones4368]

The Stratos wasn't even built in the same decade as the rest of them. No idea why its on the list

[@floridajake58]

Group B drivers had balls so big that it would weigh the cars down

[@daftmell5237]

Jacob Miller there cars where still unnecessarily overpowered

[@mlg_420quickscope]

daft mell No such thing as "unnecessary power"

[@teddyator]

daft mell that's why in my opinion group 4 was far better with those small light rwd cars producing ~150HP

[@mlg_420quickscope]

Lukas Tyrlik no, Finland

[@katk5205]

Jacob Miller that's why Michèle Mouton was one of the best.

[@liverush24]

The Peugeot 205 T16 could reach 60mph significantly quicker than 4.5 seconds.

[@denisceolan2722]

liverush24 The Delta S4 in 2.7 seconds ;)

[@philip_si]

Dennone 98 2.3* and that was on gravel..

[@eikumina]

1.9 Did in thousand lakes rally 205 t16 e2. All so when Matti Alamäki bought Juha Kankkunen´s old 205 and but it straight to dyno was there 745 hp.. so how much you really trust what the they tell those days...?

[@doggSMK]

They reported 400-550HP but cars where more like 600-800HP in the race

[@wildbiber]

Where can we read about this? I can't find anything in Google about... butt seems truth. Need more info, pls.

[@pe8268]

In my opinion the S1 has the greatest Sound of all time

[@MarchuxProductions]

PD 100 that 5-pot scream!

[@pe8268]

Just amazing😍

[@panukolehmainen2173]

+1

[@panukolehmainen2173]

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[@bencrosbie]

Yes 👌🏽

[@fliteshare]

Group B was NOT abandoned because drivers were killed. It was abandoned because spectators were killed and crowd control became near impossible.

[@1959rui1]

fliteshare Group B was abandoned for both reasons (public and pilots death - Bettega in 85 and Toivonen / Cresto in 86.

[@safranebiturbo1]

it's an excuse but the real reason was the crash in portugal with the ford rs200

[@1959rui1]

safranebirurbo1, it's not a excuse. If the Group B incidentes was only Portugal 1986, the B's never ended. I don't say this because be Portuguese but only one disater, even fatal, wasn't suficient to end the Group B. If you read the FIA (FISA at the time) decision was taken due to a series of events and that the cars were becoming too powerful and moving so fast without other mechanical and security components (brakes, suspension, etc.) accompany this evolution. Maybe it was precipitated because the new Group S (never competing) had cars with mechanical component all as it should be, but there are also many other things that have never been properly clarified

[@samis4660]

Group B was abandoned because the cars became too dangerous. Not because of spectators.

[@787Martin]

Its was a combination of both. The cars were getting to fast to handle at full capacity ( u don't have abs,esp ect) And the croud and the controle of it was getting out of hand as well. Even the drivers back then said it was not safe or just madness. But the lancia stratos is not a group b car, its group 4. The 037 and the delta s represents lancia in group b. same that there were so many shitty drives or later modified hillclimb cars in the clips. unworthy of the group b legend this...

[@georgejacob3162]

0:25. Group B from 1982 to 1986. So how come the Group 4 mid to late 1970's Lancia Stratos is here then?

[@jako1234567890jako]

Even though it wasn't group B; many still consider it as it was such an amazing car

[@Frektelfilms]

They tuned it down for group 4 if i believe

[@invictussim-racingitalia1268]

-..- think about what you are posting… -..- back to the future?

[@justincredible5414]

Fanboys...

[@ryanjohnson4593]

Frektel Films the stratos was built for group 4 which was far before group b. The 037 was the successor to the stratos for group b.

[@nealeclark4552]

Toivonen actually lapped the Estoril F1 circuit in a time that would have put the Lancia Delta 8th on the grid at the previous year's F1 GP.

[@danoninho5880]

It was 8th in testing

[@nealeclark4552]

@@danoninho5880 but you get my point.

[@ayrsellproquet3385]

@@nealeclark4552 you still replied after 3 years?

[@nealeclark4552]

@@ayrsellproquet3385 I don't have a life. :)

[@Brainless_Memer]

I wonder what his time was and some proof that it even happened

[@cschnauz]

The S4 was an F1 car for the forest. It could do 0-62kph in 2.8 seconds on gravel, more like 3 seconds as opposed to 2, but I like you hyping up the numbers. In ‘86 Henri Toivonen did a lap at Estoril in it that would have put him mid pack in qualifying for that years F1 race! The Stratos as sick as it was was a grp4 car. And your 959 footage was mostly of the 911R

[@jbforce10]

I read that the F1 qualifying that year was in the wet, giving the S4 a huge traction advantage.

[@pentagrammotorsport]

8th on the grid. Although the Estoril WRC circuit was shorter than the Estoril F1 circuit that year plus as already pointed out, the F1 qualifiers that year was in the wet. That said, put an F1 car in the forest and it wouldn’t get anywhere. The S4 is a masterful car!

[@paulcaswell2813]

@@pentagrammotorsport An F1 car in the forest? It would break within 100 yards!

[@paulcaswell2813]

The Stratos was a Group 4 car, predating Group B by a good ten years! Also, some dodgy examples of various cars are shown - the first clips of the S4 are a converted road car (rear lights give it away, as well as wrong rims). And the T16 at No8? The most successful Group B car of all!

[@claudiomunoz6300]

Nice try... but too many errors in rally groups and rally cars specs.

[@casey360360]

Could you elaborate at all?

[@mxer4life25]

casey360360 it takes minimal knowledge of these cars and minimal time out of your day to Google the cars to know that only about half of those cars were actually used in Group B. The rest were group 4 or 5

[@deanburger6133]

The Race Net thank youuu this guy fucked up

[@christommo]

casey360360 The RS200 was a 1.8 litre engine not 2.8, god knows where he found that one.

[@antonredhead5863]

Some of the 0-60 times seem odd considering a standard mk1 golf isn't far off 2 of the cars here

[@joshmahto1344]

The delta is, and always will be, the OG rally car

[@clayton8or]

Its bloody insane but i still prefer the RS200, wish more were available initially for homologation, I don't even think there are any in the U.S. which is quite a shame, I'll just have to settle with a MR2 for a mid engined car, I even hear kits are available for the MRS and an AWD swap is possible, so who knows...

[@elkay589]

Josh Mahto Audi ftw :v

[@joshmahto1344]

Ok. Everyone has their opinion. I just prefer the Delta. #AWDlife

[@sekusihan]

Josh Mahto Audi ftw

[@sekusihan]

Josh Mahto Audi

[@seanmcconomy711]

The 959 never made into Group B, the class was dead by the time it was finished. The footage you showed was a rally 911 in group A during the late 80's.

[@KoteDarasuum]

Yes, only porsche to race in group b was 911 SC/RS. Also its shame he didnt mention Ferrari 308 GTB.

[@noo1542]

True, the 959 was famous in the Dakar rally. Sadly a few misses to mistake a 911 with a 959

[@manuel-xax]

The 959 was supposed to join group B, IIRC I took few pictures of the "near virginal white" 959 at the 24h Le Mans (86 or 87). The 959 also shined in the sands of Paris-Dakar

[@speedfreak6683]

Lancia hat so viele unglaublich gute Rallyautos gebaut, diese Traditionsmarke sollte man wieder Aufleben lassen.

[@liverush24]

Tony Pond passed the speed trap at 134 mph on the 1985 RAC Rally - on a forest stage, in his 6r4.

[@Joop.23-2-63]

for the record: the socalled group A or N needed 5000 units manufactured within 12 months instead of 4000. the 205 T16 had a 1775 cc engine. the lancia stratos was socalled group 4 car which where 400 units required, like in opel ascona /manta 400. the porsche 959 was a prototype car never homologated as a group B and only used in rally raids @8:05 and 8:21 is a porsche 911turbo. the ford RS200 had 1.8 ltr engine. what about the renault 5 maxi turbo and the citroen bx 4tc........

[@buzzy7844]

Very well, and as additional information: The Audi has a 5-cylinder engine, therefore the beautiful sound.

[@chokey121]

205 T16 EVO II is indeed 1775 catagorie 1.8 See XU8T

[@looniegaming9419]

99rsk i thought one difference between the Ascona and the manta was that the manger was grB and the Ascona was gr4

[@Joop.23-2-63]

@@looniegaming9419 Agree.........

[@greigsanderson9673]

The 0 - 60 figures are dug shite.

[@pillluuu6535]

Well Toivonen told in an interview that S4 hit 100 kph in 1,9 secs and 200 kph in 9,6 secs. I dunno if it was on gravel or not.There is more funny stories from Alen and Toivonen if you want to hear about S4.

[@JackSparrow-tn6ic]

If it takes 7.7 seconds from 100 to 200 km/h, that's actually not too fast... either the 1.9 seconds are too low or the 9.6 are too high.

[@tungabunga4107]

@@pillluuu6535 i think hes talking about the "research" the guy did

[@jayplexy5983]

@@pillluuu6535 I know this threat is dead but Toivonen said 2.9 seconds, not 1.9. Also many people say group b rally cars did 0-100 in 1-2 seconds when they were more like 2-4 or even slower in rwd cars.

[@matteovenafro]

this is probably the most inaccurate video I've seen on group b, did you even do any research before making the video?

[@xdYoshi]

@Movie Fan no, only the clips

[@ElChasco_official]

the 959 it didnt compete in the gr.b althrough it was designed for this category, but it participated in the rally paris-dakar and won

[@-ERADEOS-]

And the Stratos was built for group 4.

[@ilwertherllx1771]

The First obviously the Lancia S4, Onore Italiano 🇮🇹

[@ozzoruuska3734]

lancia and quattro my favourite rally cars of all time.

[@dosescopetastengo6581]

Respect dude, you know about cars.

[@dc6191]

037 is amazing

[@he478]

Which lancia?

[@Taavetti20035]

Ozzo Ruuska yes they are good cars but quattro is better

[@lukarancini1630]

amistoyota 03 well... no.

[@mazder_2709]

the death of the Delta S4 is fucking scary, the driver was feeling sick and hit a tree, causing flames, both of them couldn't get out of the car and all that was left was a burned chassis

[@rume8776]

Oh god Delta S4 is real crazy shit

[@jirapatthaenphromrat2910]

Mazder_ *Plastic Fuel tank +1 weight reduction -4917264482017363627819101846 safety....

[@mazder_2709]

that's free quick mafs

[@garyfletcher2487]

korraja S4 was a beast,at the time it was out accelerating F1 cars of the 80s,a S4 in today's world with all of today's technology would be the ultimate rally car, OK it wasn't as successful as the HF but it is certainty better looking, the quattro sport was one hell of a car but it was to unreliable that was it's only down fall,

[@olivermcgill6454]

Lancia made so many great cars

[@andywilliams1160]

And they all went rusty in a fortnight, Lancia pulled out of UK market because the cars were so shoody!

[@karlmeadows4986]

They never did , the rally S1 was the best

[@SAINTPONTIUS]

And now I’m pretty sure they make only one car in one country

[@HighSockDavid]

Andy Williams that was the beta it was the bad car everyone remembers not the brand as a whole kind of like amc’s pacer compared to the Amx and Eagle

[@adamristic2822]

renault 5 maxi turbo...

[@ginodelavega752]

and manta 400,rx7,240 rs....this doc is ......!!! .. and citroen bx4tc,visa mille piste,chrono ............

[@teddyator]

gino delavega BMW M1,Ferrari 308 GT/B etc.

[@ginodelavega752]

Lukas Tyrlik exactly !

[@flandersbob4301]

Aaaaaah r5 maxi turbo, most insane... 350hp, rwd, ragnotti...

[@ginodelavega752]

Flanders Bob and francois chatriot.....on maxi 5 turbo

[@thejudge-kv2jk]

Loved them all but the 205 has a place for me as my parents had the road going 1.9 GTI and it was great!

[@michaellooney1089]

Back in the 80's, a friend of mine had a 1.9 (not 1.6) GTI in RED in MINT condition, and he got rid of it just because the Alternator packed up!

[@raymonde4272]

I admire the Metro 6R4 for the fact that it was developed in weeks on a very limited budget. But the Porsche 959 is my favourite, apart from being gorgeous, it is so versatile, imagine a Ferrari F40 trying to win the Paris-Dakar race.

[@Ger_Mc]

The stats are being mixed up between group b, hillclimb and rallycross specs

[@looniegaming9419]

G.A.M. Mc and dakkar

[@druginducedfeverdream1613]

The difference between the Delta S4 and the rest is fucking bonkers. The acceleration could make the earths rotation change speed I swear...

[@hinnak1971]

I miss the opel Ascona b 400 the Car which drives Walter Röhrl to Worldchampion

[@flotech1238]

duuude that 037 was driving on the old monza layout...love it

[@allancordeiro8798]

You're right, the delta s4 deserves the first place

[@donrowe7194]

Allan Cordeiro ?? I love lancia but the audi quattro was the best group b car...EVER

[@donrowe7194]

binnyss look at the group b win stats and you will see audi on top.

[@jammeslive4050]

guys. craziest, not best

[@donrowe7194]

Hamez the Gezer when It comes to group b...they were all crazy so that don't count. Lmao

[@randomdude239]

Don Rowe delta s4 was the fastest and most insane group b rally car ever produced. Full stop, end of story. They were winning hands down the 1986 championship when the tragic ends of Toivonen and Cresto retired them from the competition and saw group B banned forever. The only other car that gave it a run for its money is the Peugeot 205 T16 evo2, from far away though. Audi had the huge merit of introducing 4wd in the rallying word and that gave it an early edge, but as soon as the other competitors caught up with the technology all its inner limits (excessive weight on the front, oversteer and overall poor handling) got exposed. It was a mid tier car at the end of the magic group b era. Still the best sounding of the lot though 👍🏼

[@x-90]

Ferrari and Porsche homologated cars for Group B but never made it because of the Delta accident

[@kevintucker3354]

Yep good job. The last 2 are my favorites for sure. I’ve especially loved the Quattro S1 since 1982 when I was 14 years old and first watched rally races and heard that distinct 5 cylinder growl and the turbo chirp and flutter. Love that car and the Lancia at the end is fantastic as well, the power they squeeze out of a 1.8 four cylinder engine is amazing. I swear I can hear both the supercharger and the turbo sounds! And I know the difference between straight cut differential gear whine and supercharger whine! Great video kid thanks!

[@michaellooney1089]

I didn't realise until quite recently, that quattro is never spelt with a capital 'Q'!

[@dannystead9420]

The Order should've been 1. Audi Quattro S1 2. Lancia Delta S4 3. Peugeot 205 T16 4. Ford RS200 5. MG Metro 6r4 6. Lancia 037 7. Renault 5 Maxi Turbo 8. Opel Manta B 400

[@user-wi4jt8bs8v]

There wasn't any order

[@dc6191]

Oath

[@ismaelsantoslima4236]

OK

[@invictussim-racingitalia1268]

1. Lancia Delta S4 2. Lancia 037 Rally :) 3. Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 4. Audi Quattro S1

[@1959rui1]

1. Lancia Delta S4 / Peugeot 205 T16 exequo 2. Audi Quattro (both S1 and S2) 3. Lancia Rally (037) 4. Renault 5 Turbo 5 MG Metro 6 Ford RS200 (Maybe this car deserved a better rating but can't give because he came too late to show its worth, or not.)

[@l.s.gangstar2984]

the Delta S4 is one of the best rally cars ever, i love the 1980's and the 1990's

[@christoduplessis8177]

The 037 is the Mona Lisa of rally cars. Just perfect in every way ❤

[@user-tl5ue7pb1z]

Man I love that Fluttering Sound of the Audi 😍

[@asp1072]

fire spitting monsters in 4 wheels, Group B was for men

[@ExcitingTaste]

And Michele Mouton

[@simonsirk1251]

ExcitingTaste Lmao true tho. A damn superwoman that one lol

[@daftmell5237]

Aji Satria Perdana it was stupid and dangerous and slower than wrc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@mlg_420quickscope]

daft mell Shut the fuck up :D

[@jakecole7447]

He is right.

[@questaebenzinah2600]

Sorry man but Lancia Stratos isn't a Group B. It's a Group 5 then a Group 4 :) Where do you find the outputs? I think there are something wrong with it. However it's a great video and i appreciate your effort. Greetings from Italy!

[@12ze34]

As far as I know,Lancia Stratos was never part of Group B.It was a 70's car racing on Group A.

[@joost6994]

Lancia O37 was out of this world. If you could drive that you were immortal

[@tungabunga4107]

We all wish walter röhrl could be immortal

[@waynechang8628]

Lancia 037 and Delta always my favorite!

[@exsappermadman25055]

The Lancia S2 is the maddest, but the Audi S1 E2 is the baddest, you could paint them all black and put them in a showroom and they would still sell today......

[@yipitsme3991]

The T16 had 4.3 bars of boost 43 bar is impossible it would blow up the engine

[@Dr1ftop1a]

*psi... 1 bar=14,45 psi. But still, 62 psi is the correct one. Although many things are wrong in this video.

[@Nickisx]

The Opel Manta 400?

[@basedpetrolhead]

959 was in Dakar rally, not in Group B. 911 was in the Group B. I remember checking about Group B on Wikipedia and only 911 popped up as Porsche's competitor.

[@cesarcantu9001]

Dang the RS200 doesn't want to play. One screw up you're fucked. Especially steering that car is just crazy.

[@teddyator]

Cesar Cantu it's the mid-engine

[@memelord4042]

It's shite ngl

[@raymonde4272]

The statos too was well known for being a beast to drive due to its short wheelbase compared to it's width.

[@hectorae86]

The quattro is worthless, the only thing that made it a winner was the fact that it was the only one with 4wd in the beginning. Once the competition got 4wd, it was completely outclassed. It even lost a championship to a 2wd car one season.

[@CRB1971]

Lancia 037 Rallye or Delta S4; the absolute nuts! Search for Delta S4 prototype testing with Alen...awesome!

[@Ensisferrae]

May be nitpicking but why does this guy call it the 37?? In literally every other documentary or mention of the car that I've seen, its been pronounced Ohh-3-7, I mean, that 0 is kinda important!

[@guanovolante]

@@Ensisferrae yes zero must be pronunced!

[@yorkshirethegreat]

@@Ensisferrae I don't know how the Italians and Lancia say "Zero Three Seven", but it had always a misquoted name? It was launched as the "Rally", but history is now calling it, as you say, the 'O'-thirty-seven.

[@thegreenbean5891]

The quattro thought me one thing: you can indeed smoke your tyres on gravel and pull power wheelies on jumps. Mind Blown!

[@inju8056]

some of the clips about 959 are just 911

[@jackrotter9434]

whats up fellow Colorado brotha! great video my dude. Audi S1 Quattro and the Lancia Delta S4 are def the most insane rally cars... period. Even more so the Delta S4.

[@787Martin]

Don't take it to seriously, it is very inaccurate at the least, mostly full with errors. Pls re-do this for the sake of the group b legend, or delete it

[@RAVENBEATS]

13:15 that noise lol

[@doctorclaw8232]

Group B needs a comeback

[@xdYoshi]

Its too dangerous, it will never come back unless its much more safe

[@TheRUBrally]

We have wrc plus now... The fastest rally cats ever produced

[@petrihakkinen2336]

Why? Todays wrc are faster

[@deanwilliams7438]

I grew up listening,and seeing all the best of gp b..and theres no better place to have seen them all in full song in our welsh forests..jeeze i feel old..

[@ZeronXL]

Audi also had a 1000hp version of the quattro but it never made it to the trak because the pilots said that it was too insane to drive. jalopnik.com/270058/crowning-the-king-of-1986-audi-quattro-s1-vs-ford-rs200-vs-lancia-delta-s4-vs-peugeot-205-ti6

[@xabussas1362]

ZeronXL finaly 1 car guy here xD you understand nice xD

[@neilswift2203]

Cheers. Brought back some good memories of the 80's watching these in forests all over the UK (apart from the Porshe) We even helped turn a few back over onto their wheels.

[@tweeny55]

RS200 had a 2.8 engine??? do some research.

[@WoRfabian]

The 959 was never used for rallying but for marathons. The rally videos you show are of the 911 SC RS, which was also a Group B

[@wideangle852]

. .so many inaccuracies makes you wince! . . RS 200 was a 1.8 litre 4 cylinder . . Evolution never rallied in Group B . .was a rally cross car . . that's a completely different sport . . .. . both Porsche 959 (that you love) Lancia 037 and Lancia Stratos were never in Group B . . overall 2/10

[@GlenD1977]

wideangle852 all correct except for the 037, that was a Group B car, just 2wd rather than 4wd and was used until they could get the S4 finished.

[@Feloarts]

wideangle852 the 037 was in the first year or 2 of group B

[@pentagrammotorsport]

The 037 was the only two wheel drive ever to beat the quattro winning the 1982 WRC Constructors Title. It definitely competed in Group B!

[@johnweelands3330]

The evo was a 2.1

[@ratkopocuca8124]

Hi! T16 evo had 430 hp and 0-60 2,8s. 037 evo had 2.1l supercharged and '85 gravel spec had 325 hp, tarmac had 350 hp, 200 hp road version had 0-60 5.8s. Ok, Stratos was group 4, road version had 190 hp, but rally had 280 hp. 6R4 is correct, but there were plenty normally aspirated group b cars, 6r4 was the only one with 4x4 drive. RS200 had 1.8l turbocharged and 2.1 in evo version with max cca 550 hp. And you missed the Renault 5 Maxi Turbo, totaly crazy group b car. And yes, Opel Manta 400, normaly aspirated rwd, very popular among drivers with lower budget. Nice video anyway, had fun watching it.

[@supraman2755]

the 205 t16 was the best tho

[@rolandet]

Supra Man i was suprised the 205T16 wasn't on, and on top off this list. It is the ultimate Group B car, specially designed for this class, and very loosely designed on the 205gti

[@megatycon]

The cars werent placed in a specific order on this list. That means this list doesent have a number 1, 2, 3 (you get it?)

[@rolandet]

JR i was only talking about the 205 which is missing in this video

[@megatycon]

Oh shit sorry, my mistake!

[@djnkr]

Supra Man still a good car for the city

[@justushalonen9581]

My pick is Audi quattro, because it just has that rally feeling and just seeing that beast flying in the air made me goosebums. Drivers of quattro must had big balls.

[@dsxl1026]

Hello Mr.3.0.3 sir. Long time listener, first time caller, if I may, I would like to know where your inspirations came from for your videos? I can definitely see touches of influences from Disney Pixar's Cars 2(the much more superior cars movie) and Dreamworks' Turbo(the unarguably best movie of all time). Thank you Sir

[@trance9158]

dsxl1026 Dr Demento huh...LOL

[@ViciousOne]

My friend. This list is complete. Insane... but....yeah... wow.

[@sportquattro8430]

The 959 content is not to great from the looks of the videos but that's because there is not much video content available, seems like it's more a 911 :P. But you should have mentioned that it could never compete, unless it was practically designed for group b. It was later used for the Rallye Dakar and just was theoretically an adjusted group b car :)

[@jeanackle]

You got that quite wrong. And the actual story is much simpler: the 959 was designed (among other goals) to compete in the Group B rally championship. By 1986, Porsche had not yet produced the 200 959 cars required to be enrolled in FIA's WRC Group B class, so the 959 would only enter the competition in 1987. But Group B was cancelled in 1986 midway through that season. That's the only reason why the 959 never run (at least as official Porsche team car) in FIA's WRC. Porsche did however enroll three 959 in the 1986 Paris-Dakar rally (a rally NOT sanctioned by FIA), where the they finished in 1st, 2nd and 6th positions. The Dakar rally has no production requirements (you can runa a one of a kind car if you want to), and that's why Porsche was able to run three cars in the 1986 Dakar. As for the footage, although three actual 959 were raced in the 1986 Dakar, Porsche ran modified versions of the 911 in the 1984 and 1985 Dakar races. These 911 were meant to test several of the different car systems intended to be implemented in the 959 (which indeed they were). So, if some of the 1984/85 "959" look like 911, it's because they sort of still were 911... But, again, the 1986 Dakar 959 are proper 959.

[@fetusofetuso2122]

Delta S4 for being the most insane. Audi S1E2 for being the more musical. Peugeot 205 T16 for having won it all. Honourable mention to the Lancia 037 for winning a championship over 4WD opponents/ and the obvious WTF for the Strato's being here.

[@bonjourdy]

Super & turbocharge engine? you mean twincharged?

[@cplat__9753]

supercharger and turbocharger are not the same

[@bonjourdy]

Cplat __ i know, what i mean is that car using Super and Turbo? Twincharged mean a car combine using turbo and supercharge

[@cplat__9753]

ah, well, yeah, both, torque & hp

[@ratkopocuca8124]

yes, supercharged till 4000 rpm and 4000-8000 s4 was turbocharged

[@bonjourdy]

Ratko Pocuca how many psi?

[@mrwhiteshorts]

The Stratos was in the 70's. You missed the Renault 5 Turbo, and there was also a Mazda car in group B as well.

[@petrihakkinen2336]

And citroen bx

[@goldenkai2991]

959 and Stratos never raced Group B, so you only have 6, 959 was developed for group B, but due to series cancellation, was relegated to racing Dakar as the footage shows, read a book or google before making inaccurate videos, big thumbs down

[@donrowe7194]

The Paradox yep...lol. I grew up on group b rally. A little research goes a long way.

[@keithrx3c]

Not even a mention that the Audi was a 5 cylinder.

[@simmingszycho1980]

@the303garage The 959 was build for the Dakar rally. NOT for Group B.

[@kennecrx4373]

It was build for group B but didn't get homologated in time before group B shut down, so then they used it for Dakar.

[@james_c7081]

Lancia stratos isnt group B 😂😂😂

[@andrewshipley7660]

Just a couple of things I noticed. A few of the clips you used for the 959 were actually the prodrive 911 SC. The 205 actually had a slightly higher displacement than the Delta, but still had the same 1.8L, not 1.7. And the Quattro was known for having the most powerful engine to be run in competition with the S1 E2. And was capable of a 2.3 second 0-62 with the PDK gearbox.

[@michaellooney1089]

I thought that was the 911. I saw a 959 on the Isle of Man, with Manx registration plates (where I'm from - fantastic rallying there!) shortly after they were launched, and have NEVER seen a 959 since!!

[@michaellooney1089]

I remember seeing Sierra RS500's too!

[@caturwinarno6660]

my opinion is...the wrc is for boy..group B for A man

[@daftmell5237]

Catur winarno wrc is still faster than group b and not as stupid

[@jakecole7447]

So if you hadnt had the luck to be born before 1970 you arent a man cause you hadnt have a chance to participate in group B ? Seems very intelligent.

[@PaoloGiovanoli]

I think Michele Mouton would disagree..

[@MrPeterheveran]

Paolo Giovanoli took the words out of my mouth.

[@PaoloGiovanoli]

She was absolutely sick. Röhrl nicknamed her "Wonder Woman", that kinda gives us a glimpse of her skills...

[@tonywilson1944]

No mention of the 205 T16 E2, only the original version. Would be good to compare against the other top 2: Quattro Sport S2 and Delta S4.

[@tonywilson1944]

Forgot to say, great video though!

[@justincredible5414]

Quattro = unstoppable

[@dc6191]

Justin Credible well the 037 did beat it

[@turtle_entertainment4112]

D C didn’t it only beat it once and it broke rules from what I know 😂

[@turtle_entertainment4112]

cloridan Beauchamps delta was a beast

[@invictussim-racingitalia1268]

Quattro = Stopped by Walter Röhrl 1983 driving the 2WD Lancia 037 Rally :). Don't try to change the History, "Kartoffeln" :>.

[@invictussim-racingitalia1268]

If you are so stupid as not to understand the irony, at least try to bring respect to other users... it is so obvious that it was the skill of the pilot and team Lancia to get the better with the 037 2WD against the 4WD Audi S1. We don't need your explanations to figure it out. Kartoffeln!

[@marguskiis7711]

Peugeot 205 T16 was simply the best.

[@DucatiDreamSIC58]

LANCIA STRATOS Gruppo b??? 🤔🤔🤔

[@xdYoshi]

@Movie Fan no, only the clips are stolen

[@unclebanga5976]

I'd love to know where ya getting some of the specs from.. your telling me that the metro with 400hp and only real wheel drive can do 0-100kms quicker than a 500hp all wheel drive 205? The 205 was know to do it in 2.9 seconds towards the end of the era when it had its maximum hp

[@ianmangham4570]

Known

[@homerl7]

Metro was all wheel drive

[@mantatakis]

those cars have 0-60 mph any time they want and final speed was their choice,only you can choose gear box

[@raedbilbessi4397]

Some of the Porsche clips aren’t of the 959. The scene in Oman was a 911 RS.

[@robertobuenrostro2781]

You forgot the father of the Mitsubishi EVO... The Starion

[@peterdaviesracing]

Suffered the same fate as some other cars, it wasn't competing before the ban was announced and Mitsubishi naturally stopped development of it :(

[@shredrmk592]

looks like darth vader in black too

[@MrGoogelaar]

The Group B rally cars were crazy...the Group B drivers were insane...

[@The303Garage]

Quite Firsty today.

[@VA_POR_]

Welp I'm early

[@jovansremcevic1381]

The303Garage Great video !

[@AndoniOlea]

The303Garage miss the Renault 5 Maxi Turbo

[@BrKnOblivion]

That Bozzy footage of the 205 T16 had a noob driver not worthy of the car. Didn't know how to race it and makes it look awful compared to the actual rally footage.

[@MrJOEYRULES2]

TrixX PC Gaming my guess is its a very expensive and historical car that they didn't want to push too crazy and possibly crash

[@theoneandonlyparsa]

"Group B Cars" Proceeds to talk about the Stratos (which is a Grp4 Car) 😂

[@yujo4353]

#SAVELANCIA

[@MarchuxProductions]

YuJo the rebadged Chryslers Lancia sells now are the best thing to happen to the company since they stopped manufacturing the Delta Integrale.

[@HighSockDavid]

No not as a company but as a racing team there production cars killed them

[@vendastrakaty224]

Do you know what is more insane than those cars? The fact that some of them were once beaten by NautrallyAspirated, Rear engined RWD Car, with conception from 60s and was driving in to 1300ccm class. You know what car that is?

[@geoff3610]

the rs200 is my favorite

[@nigeldepledge3790]

IIUC, the 959 was not a brilliant rally car. Having the engine hanging out the back made it a bit of a handful on tight corners.

[@TehFr3ezy]

you forgot toyota celica it was pretty insane too and only reason why the lancia did kill those rally drivers was that because the lancia's body was made of glass fiber/ carbon fiber

[@4TooFLY]

st185/st205(or older one)? Asking because i own a Celica ST185 Carlos Sainz Limited Edition :).

[@thex-faction968]

jimppaaaa The Celica was a Group A rallye car

[@TehFr3ezy]

The X-Faction yes the st185 and so on but there was toyota celica gt-ts ta64 and it was group b rally car :)

[@tbkriley]

Delta was made from kevlar

[@F13RYPH03N1X]

I’d have a hard time picking between the 6R4 or Quattro. I mean just listen to that V6 in the Metro or that 5 Cylinder in the Audi. They are 2 of my all time favorite engine notes. Just beautiful...!

[@michaellooney1089]

quattro is not spelt with a capital 'Q', believe it or not.

[@EddywaKenya]

you forgot to mention Toyota celica turbo. that was the badest of them all.

[@teddyator]

Edward Gathogo and the very very forgotten BMW M1

[@CRB1971]

Edward Gathogo and the Citroën BX, Mazda RX7 and Nissan.....

[@martso9288]

I personally love the Rs200. It looks really cool and it is quite quick. Just imagine, with a bit of tuning, what could these monsters do on tarmac circuits today.

[@JonInLondon]

I believe the Lancia S4 was 2.5s 0-60 on gravel, plus 560bhp as standard (Markku Alen said in the last Group B race they had 620bhp in a 890Kg car, plus the brakes weren't that good). Also some of the other figures are for the homoglation cars not the rally cars (e.g. the T16). Back when I used to go to the U.K. Rallys (loved Group B) they had a stage on a race-track. Markku Alen in his S4 did it in a time that would have put him on the 2nd row of the grid for that year's F1 race (on the same circuit)... Oh and yes, the Stratos was Group 4, but nice footage - loved that car, even looked at getting one once... The problem with the RS200 was Group B was killed before they got the full-spec engine, and they only ran with early lower-performance engines before then. BTW when Michelle Mouton went to do in Pike's Peak in her Sport Quattro, Audi apparently offered her a choice of the standard 550-ish bhp or turning it up to 720-730 (I forget which), she went with the former and won. (I drove up there once when it was still dirt, with no barriers, quite exciting... not in a good way...) Oh and watch this with the subtitles on... kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5S4oYyQhNGpq9k

[@rooneye]

What source did you get that the Lancia Delta S4 could do 0-60mph in 2 seconds on gravel?

[@johnnotownsend6958]

did my man the 037 dirty, the last 2wd car to win a WRC

[@rodrigoguzmanleroy4915]

you missed the Renault 5 Turbo

[@jeffreystephenson6946]

Don’t think that was group B

[@CRXJDM88]

One of the best rally groups of all time if you see some of the videos The Spectators get really close what shouldn't be allowed

[@PauloRamalheira]

Mazda 323 4WD, Lancia Delta and Nissan Sunny GTI-R 4WD. Thanks for the video