The Original Raw Denim Jeans: Levi 501 STF (Shrink to Fit)

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Are Levi's the ULTIMATE RAW DENIM JEANS? No, definitely not. There are some unbelievable jeans out there. However for the price (I paid $30) do they have much competition? No way. Levi 501 STF's are the original CLASSIC jean. Even though their quality is lacking sometimes.
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[@siegfriedderheld7806]

I’m an old fart who grew up in Levis. I chuckle when I see what Levis says about breaking them in and washing them. Here’s a couple of tips from a Boomer...The best looking jeans have a natural fade that only gets better with time. Time is essential. Make sure that your 501s are the rigid shrink-to-fit. Buy a size larger. I wear a 34” waist so I buy 35” STF. Sure, you can put them on and sit in a hot bath-seriously though-do you think generations of guys actually did that? Rather, machine wash in COLD water then drip dry-generally takes two days unless it’s summer. The machine wash naturally shrinks the denim. Wear for at least 9 months, preferably a year, then machine wash in COLD water and drip dry. What you’ll notice is the your Levis will form to your body and there will be great fade marks making them unique. Avoid pre-shrunk or machine faded. Jeans that are naturally worn in, faded, and well-loved communicate confidence and a slightly bad-boy persona. Enjoy!

[@ricardodelatejera]

I used to buy mine at Miller's Outpost, and they always suggested I get three inches bigger in length and one inch wider at the waist. It always worked for me, and I did dry them in a machine!

[@user-md3is4dq2d]

So do you not wash them ever?

[@Lunatic4Bizcas]

@@ricardodelatejera : ¡ Miller's Outpost ! Now that's Old School !

[@kylestaker9279]

Siegfried der Held what about length? Do you need to size up in the inseam?

[@siegfriedderheld7806]

Kyle Staker two inches on the length

[@chiefjmts5799]

I wore mine while in the tub. They turned into the most form fitting comfortable jeans I own. I’ve read the bath tub technique I just said on the Levi’s site. Also the technique of not letting them fully dry, after doing what you did, then putting them on while damp. Then wearing till they are dry

[@analogworld7]

I totally agree with you, when you look far enough, soon you will find what you’re looking for. I may not find instantly what I wanted with my collections, but soon, It will just appear in front of me. Thank you for this video.

[@mjg239]

Thanks for making this video. I'm a HUGE levis fan. And love any and all levis video. Glad you modeled the jeans too since Im a similar size. Subscribed and looking forward to more of your levis videos. thanks !!

[@TheIronSnail]

M j G glad to hear it!!

[@mjg239]

@@TheIronSnail welcome :) do an update for us on your levis collection

[@CD-gh1uf]

Good video. Seems like there'd be a ton of these before and after Levi STF videos, but there's only a couple.

[@Lun4rVisi8n]

Dude this is the beat video I’ve seen on the subject. I had to get through 6 videos of decent but not complete information to get to you! Hope you keep doing your thing man! Good content!

[@TheIronSnail]

Hey thanks so much!!

[@TheMensch]

Dude! I was literally thinking about doing a 501STF video for the past few weeks! Kind of disappointed that they didn’t shrink on the leg because a lot of reviews online said they would get a natural taper. I actually own a pair of 501T which come already with a taper down the leg. Still i love the way the 501 fits up top with the button fly and high rise

[@TheIronSnail]

The Mensch on Menswear great minds think alike!! And yes they do a natural taper SLIGHTLY but i just wanted them pretty slim

[@TheMensch]

@@TheIronSnail yeah im gonna want mine pretty slim too - wonder if its still worth buying them over other cuts. just got a sick deal on a pari of selvedge 502 (regular taper) selvedge jeans from the outlet for $15 and I actually think they're similar to the 501T but with a zip fly - check em out!

[@mjg239]

@@TheMensch Hey Mensch, would be cool to see you do a 501 STF washing video or instructions on jeans care video. would be nice to see more levis videos from you

[@timbuk1126]

When I think of blue jeans these are what comes to mind.

[@holdthatblaow]

Go up a size. They will stretch but part of that stretching causes strain that will resort to tears.

[@joe5973]

Thanks man very informative.

[@danielcollins5003]

Hey, love your content! Would love an update video on these!

[@dantes.4845]

You really can't go wrong with a Straight fit. Especially one that is basically custom fit. I prefer to wear the jeans when they are slightly damp and let them shrink on me, you really won't get knee bags and the fit becomes superb. Gustin and Brave star jeans are solid for the price.

[@TheIronSnail]

Agreed on all points!

[@retrokilroy2506]

Thanks for the video man. This has cleared everything up 👍

[@JohnnyTrulove]

Hi. I've tried Gap selvedge in straight and standard fit. Good selvedge jeans for the price. Have had Unbranded 301 as well as other Japanese and US selvedge jeans. Currently working on a pair of 501 stf and will wear them to do yard work and see how they fade when I do wash them. The 501 is good to experiment with with attempt to take a pair to get tailored and try different waist sizes for fun.

[@TheIronSnail]

Jonathan Gutierrez agreed!!

[@915mario1986]

How are they holding up? Im into my second pair, 1st pair lasted almost a year with really cool fades (I washed them very little, about 5 to 6 times). I just got a black pair also 501 stf.

[@joncerda351]

Wow they look great!

[@JoeyDecay]

One day I was like 20 walking around Chicago in just a dress shirt and a blazer and it was like 10° out and I'm like I'm gonna find a pea coat. And I saw one and it didn't really fit right so I kept taking the bus places and I found an Express jacket with the tags on labeled $282 and paid $30 for it. It was my mission, and it worked

[@MrDedpool1]

Watched this as soon as I bought my first pair of 501's

[@panair4126]

Quite encouraging & comforting too.Thanks 👍

[@TheIronSnail]

Of course!

[@frozenwalkway]

I shrunk mine wrong then lol did like war water and just air dried outside while wearing them. I also wore then for six months before I did it. Turned out ok tho

[@bsousa3837]

Watching this video next to your recent videos… gateway drug for sure.

[@andy86i]

Do an update on the fades..

[@digit969]

I remember sitting in the tub for a hour and the water was so hot and in the end, the water was so dark.

[@steveshields2293]

Same. I didn't even have to have jeans on.

[@nathandkreosote9917]

@@steveshields2293 👀

[@JoeRed]

If you're still into raw selvage, check out Bravestar. Super happy with them.

[@jairocampo1992]

This was SO entertaining bro. Loved this vid

[@MK-sr7sx]

nice video man, ìm kinda astonished it only got so few views

[@TheIronSnail]

M K thanks!!!

[@michaelfarrell5776]

Good job Man

[@TheIronSnail]

Michael Farrell thanks man!

[@liamjamesevans]

512 Levi’s are slim tapered. Best fitting jeans I have ever worn.

[@jonx4986]

Durable?

[@liamjamesevans]

@@jonx4986 They are quite durable. I think the 511 are a superior fit

[@manuelcalbitaza1792]

Please be back levis philippine made perfect fabric material!!

[@carlwest5936]

Ive always wanted them but im scared ill get them, soak them and then they won’t fit. Might just take a chance as they’re so iconic

[@TheShannonagains]

Recently picked up a pair of green 501s that are STF for $13 that are 2 sizes too big in the waist, cant wait to see if I can shrink them, then maybe experiment in tapering them to fit even better!

[@wiltonhenriquez6613]

Where are you people getting these prices ? Here in California these are 60 dollars here

[@TheShannonagains]

Milton Henriquez I got my green ones at a reseller called dirt cheap, they sell factory defects, but I also work at a Levi’s in Texas, and a lot of our coloured shrink to fits are $20 or less, including the white oak cone denim. There’s also some indigo STFs that are just reduced to $20 on sale right now as well for the stores in our area.

[@wiltonhenriquez6613]

The Broadway Reject must be nice ahaha well that’s cool man cheers I wish Levi’s where still made in USA

[@TheShannonagains]

Milton Henriquez I found a pair of 511s made in the USA at Ross and man I can’t agree with you more, the quality difference is amazing!

[@cornpop8570]

The 511s fit great 👍🏽

[@bloatedsodium7301]

Absolutely stunning posterior.

[@TheIronSnail]

GENZ quite fine if I do say so myself!

[@alanoliver5762]

Levi’s “Shrink to fit” will shrink 1 inch in waist and 2 to 3 inches in the length. choose size on this formula. soak for an hour in the washing machine with hot water. then turn on the washer and finish the cycle. drip dry. Now you can machine wash and dry as needed.

[@connorsingley5464]

gotta actually sit and soak in the tub, avoid the painful waist stretching period. so long as you don't stretch the knees out too much you should be alright.

[@mreyuyeyuy5444]

Why it became so tight?

[@vadelmahillo-bn8ew]

i wishd id had some day lewis jeans

[@adriannavarretrnavarrete922]

Yes el jean Levis Strauss 501original,my frends

[@ashern3920]

Do they fade at all?

[@socalsteeler7135]

Where do they sell Levi's fire $30!?

[@johnknight1816]

Cool video

[@its_me_dave]

Those 501 looked so good when you first tried ‘em on, the cut is perfect. Cowboy. I know you like em skinnier, like all the youngsters. But that’s just fashion. If you think the 501’s are baggie, you shoulda seen what we wore in the 90’s, lol. Anyway, greetings from the UK, and cool video 👍😎

[@sutantosutanto6846]

My Jeans Everything 501,, I Love Lev'is...

[@TheIronSnail]

They are legendary!

[@NikonFM2n]

Please Mike, I need your help. What's the difference between a 72334. - 0178 and a 72334. - 0134 type 3 jackets? And why can't I find any new -0178? Thanks

[@TheIronSnail]

These are all different versions of the type 3! Best to look them all up and see! (Sadly right now I’m too busy with work to do it!)

[@davidhuff4562]

Growing up it seemed the fad was 501s and guys wanted them snug, especially in the seat, to contour and show off your body. School dress code didn't allow jeans but once home and weekend hanging out meant get out your Levis

[@whiskeythrottle3771]

I'm normally a 34 waist and for me to get Unsanforized jeans (14oz Cone Mills) to fit me comfortably I had to buy 38's ... I literally lost 4 sizes during the first soak!!! In Sanforized jeans I buy a 35 and they work out great. So my point for everyone is... be aware that unsanforized can shrink up to 4 sizes! They're a bit of a gamble, but pretty damn awesome if you can get it right. I'd say for your first pair of unsanforized jeans, look for a bargain in the event you mess up it won't feel so dramatic (like a $100+ pair you'll never get to wear) ... in my case I have friends smaller than me.

[@wilsjane]

What happened to leather 501's. They were quite popular in my younger days, but ceased production when Levi's were worried about one of their products having a gay stigma. They would be very popular if they were introduced today, since a lot of people commuting to the city would wear them on and off their bike without having to change when they arrived at work. Even without all the biker padding, they would be safer than denim to wear on the bike for short city journeys at low speeds and would not get saturated in light rain.

[@birulumutlumutbiru1609]

501xx yes.

[@millieatr]

STF Buy 1inch larger in Waist 2 0r 3 inches longer in length

[@popp1caso]

woah not tbr or anything but I wonder how small his legs are. I'm a w29 l32 and my are a little filling when I put mine one🤔

[@TheIronSnail]

Ray Remington 1795 apparently I have tiny legs! My gf is always commenting how it’s a miracle i can stand

[@peterfanpeterbva7867]

Where do you buy your STF 501S LEVI'S.

[@PIANOPICTURES]

Hi, may I ask? So I got the 501 STF. Soaked, air dried, got the size right(+1/+2), everything is cool and fun, sits on me exactly as expected. So my question is now what's the actual difference between my sized up STF and a normal dark 501 (non STF), in which case it all seems to be just done for me beforehand? I can see the point if you use the bath tub wear method or "no wash ever", but for a more casual wash scenario, is not it is the same?

[@flynrodwell8310]

501's that aren't STF go through the sandforization which causes a lot of the character of the denim to be lost through different treatments like singeing where as STF jeans haven't went through this process and also a bit of tradition as well as the ability to customise how you want the jeans to fit.

[@jugglinglivebabies]

the one thing that has kept me away from 501's is the leg width. anything wider than a slim straight feels like JNCO's to me. but I still really want to try them. also, from a fellow masshole, what's up kehd?

[@TheIronSnail]

Their width used to get me too! Now i love it though Also massholes for life!

[@ValFinale]

this right here. I feel like we got SO used to skinny/slim openings we feel these look bigger than how other people see us in them.

[@jugglinglivebabies]

@@ValFinale so, checking in, i tried to incorporate 501's in my rotation while i slowly phased out the slim fits. then i saw a picture of myself in the 501's, and compared it to a pic of me in my slims, and i was shocked at how much thinner i actually looked in the 501's. i'm a big dude that probably shouldn't have been wearing slim fit jeans to begin with, even after losing about 60lbs over the last 18 months. the 501s were just much more flattering. since then i've gotten a couple of pairs of straight fit selvedge that i wear all the time, and my slim fits are packed away in the closet. there are times where i still feel like they are a little roomier than i want them to be, so i'll usually have my wife take a picture and then see that it's all in my head.

[@ADITYASINGH-jc2hn]

511 are not tapered, they're just slim from hip to ankle, true slim jeans 4:42

[@KingJames450]

Have you tried a 502 yet? They’re pretty comfortable and nice fitting

[@wilsjane]

When 501's were first exported to the UK, they were not very popular, because all UK jeans had a zip fly. Levi's replaced the buttons with a zip and called them 502. They remained the standard UK Levi's until the 70's when all the new styles were introduced and they virtually disappeared. It was only when the big 501 revival happened the we then saw the 501's, for the first time in about 30 years. Are the 502 jeans that you mentioned zip fly 501's. or has the style number been reused.?

[@KingJames450]

wilsjane no they are strictly a 502 model with zip fly, my favorite jeans

[@wilsjane]

So they are the 501, jeans originally introduced for the UK market with a zip and given the code 502. The full code was 502-0217-XX Are yours new, or vintage jeans from the 1960's

[@ramirezzavala5174]

Why didn't you turn them inside out when you dried them?

[@muffemod]

c r e a m u

[@Ivan-ky1nr]

What size were those 501’s shrink to fit jeans

[@TheIronSnail]

29 x 30!

[@drwisdom1]

At 3:11 "I didn't listen to Levi's at all." I have been wearing Levi's 501s shrink-to-fit jeans since the late 1960s and have a large US made vintage collection. One persistent problem has always been buyers who just don't believe they have to buy 501 STF jeans 1-2 inches greater in the waist and 3-4 inches in the length. So they get home wash their jeans and they are way too small to wear, like in this video, and they then return them creating waste and a hassle for the store, Levi's, and the customer those jeans were made for. They are like people who are told not to look at the eclipse but don't believe it and do so, or drunk drivers. They are informed what is the right thing to do but they know better.

[@mj.l]

levi can afford it

[@JasonSpitzMI50]

I'm not sure where you bought your 501's at but I got mines at Macy's and they're running $72 in 2022 Maybe in those two years since the airing of this video, inflation has increase the price to $72. Is $ 72 .00 cheap? 🤔 mm I don't think so..

[@xeverettx2564]

Always wait a year before letting raw denim get soaked. That way they will get a great natural wear pattern. I like the 501 slightly wider but straight leg. Original denim from back in the 1800’s was always raw selvedge and really only came in one length which is why up until the sixties jeans always had super high cuffs so the would be the right length. Personally I like vintage work clothing retro style so I never wash and always buy a 36 length even though I’m a 30 inseam so I can put in big cuffs. They’re some great methods to sanitize and deodorize naturally with out getting them wet. So yeah I guess why I’m saying is raw denim is great and has a lot of cool looks you can get with them. And if you like retro workwear and greaser look also raw is the way to go! Yeah and if you drop 100 bux on a pair they shouldn’t wear out nearly as fast as modern denim so really you are getting three pairs worth of wear time out of one pair. I usually spend around the 250 price range from a company that custom fits and makes my jeans. I’ll get a pair in grayish blue and a pair super dark blue both with gold stitching reinforced and hand riveted. So yeah I spend 450 dollars on two pairs but they last 6-7 years and are custom fit. Which is way cheaper than buying a pair of regular denim Levi’s at 80 bux a pop and only get a year max wear time before wholes and seem tears start. Anyway cool video and just wanted to add my opinion on why it’s more economic in the long run to spend more. Cheers and keep rockin the denim!!!!

[@AB-nb2ic]

Who makes your customs?

[@Barrrt]

Curious where you have them custom made too

[@kevincook8888]

After soaking your jeans, you should have dried them in a clothes dryer set on high temperature. That will provide maximum shrinkage the first time. I make custom-made jeans, and I preshrink the fabric before making the pants.

[@drwisdom1]

That is absolutely the right thing to do, if you bought the proper size STF jeans. Unfortunately, Mr. Snail bought too small a size and they shrunk too much to be comfortably worn. If he dries them on high he won't even be able to get them on.

[@xeverettx2564]

Levi’s was the first to do jeans ever. Originally in the 1800’s until the 60’s all jeans were raw an mostly cane in one length which is wear the big tall cuffs comes from. It was necessity. And as far as selvedge it means nothing it’s just another stupid thing hipsters blew out of proportion and made Jean prices skyrocket. Getting a nice heavy raw (14 oz. minimum) is the important thing!

[@sf2explus184]

It sucks u can't get Levis STF 501 in the uk not even in a levi store. LVC is easily available but damn they are expensive.

[@TheLoneLander]

Can't you get them shipped internationally from the website?

[@Jeremy-rg3bg]

I can't believe kids today wear there cuffs pin rolled like we did in the 80's..lmao!

[@kimkeet]

11:07 LOL

[@RobertLinthicum]

Buy them really, really big. Put them in hot was in a machine washer. Dry them hot. Wear. You're welcome.

[@MarcoAntonio-td5lw]

did you tapered your 501s? or altered by taylor?

[@TheIronSnail]

Tapered myself!!

[@MarcoAntonio-td5lw]

Wool and Lanolin pls make a video how to tapered 501s thank you

[@mjg239]

@@TheIronSnail Would like to see a video on how you did it too

[@PublicMan01]

The slimy feeling is probably from all the starch

[@ramoncastro9862]

How tall are you and what size you wear since you said pants always long on you

[@TheIronSnail]

5’9” and I to 30 x 32 with a double cuff! No cuff I’d do 29.5

[@christconscious1784]

Bro you remind me of Hyde from that 70s show for some reason lol

[@francescozhh]

So if I buy the levis 501 shrink to fit will they get tighter after washing?

[@mr.cocksure2579]

Yes they will shrink after they get wet. Soak them in the tub when they are almost dry wear them until they dry completely. Then wear the hell out them and do NOT wash them until a year later. I'm serious this is how you'll get your favorite jeans.

[@surungmalau8821]

@@mr.cocksure2579 oh my...a year?🤔

[@mr.cocksure2579]

@@surungmalau8821 Yes, but I'm not saying to wear them when you know you will get dirty or sweaty. I thought the same thing, how the jeans will smell but if you use Lysol on the jeans they will have no odor. If you wash them they will not look right.

[@Djdjdjfnnff]

Subbed

[@jonnyrocketfingers8427]

Those jeans are some gangster shit here in LA

[@loscrows1836]

Do have to STF the gap 1969 jeans?

[@TheIronSnail]

You do not!

[@Scott011980]

Do you keep that patch on back?

[@TheIronSnail]

Yup!

[@coyote4936]

Would they shrink less if you shorten the soak time?

[@Ken_Makers]

Yes. If you don’t wash them at all, they’ll stay true to size

[@softdreams1776]

lmao Levis that make you throw up to bend down that sounds fun X_X

[@varunsingh7068]

how many oz is the levis jeans

[@TheIronSnail]

12!

[@fauzihashimfauzi3545]

I prefer 505..feel good..

[@MarshallSmith27]

Why do you cuff your jeans?

[@michaelcollins3132]

Lol, and now you’re a bonafide raw denim guy

[@TheIronSnail]

Bahahahahaha times have changed!

[@william07122]

You should really try LVC 1947 or 1954 501.

[@TheIronSnail]

Wearing a pair of 1947’s now!

[@william07122]

@@TheIronSnail you should do a review on the 1947 501, some KZbinr bought it but never update the progress. I just got my 1954 501, rigid selvedge is way better for shaping those whiskers, honeycomb and etc. Also, if you are interested, on Japanese Levi’s site, they have 14oz 501, modern cutting, fit like the nowadays normal 501. However, the fabric is selvedge denim and the detail process is the same as vintage 501s.

[@TheIronSnail]

Oh that sounds pretty sweet! And i am doing a review soon!

[@davidharber6790]

My knob shrank and it’s also now blue so I’m thinking of suing you 😢

[@unplugged2432]

How did you size on your stf?

[@TheIronSnail]

These are two small! I went down one size for these but really you should size up 2 to get a proper STF fit!

[@unplugged2432]

@@TheIronSnail hey man, thanks for the reply. Hmm now I'm wondering how I should size if I got a pair. My non-stf 501s are both size 28 and 29. Both fit great but if I wanted the fit of my size 29 ones think I should get a size 30 if I were to get regular stf? Or stick with a 29? think it would be the same deal if I were to get lvc 1947 stf?

[@F-Tier_Physique]

H&M have raw selvedge denim jeans for like 50 dollars online only. Seems like a good deal

[@DJSIC82]

what watch is that? rolex dj? 36mm?

[@TheIronSnail]

Oh yes!

[@DJSIC82]

@@TheIronSnail very nice!! its looks nice on your wrist

[@TheIronSnail]

Ty!!

[@la_void9750]

They don’t shrink when you dry them indoors?

[@TheIronSnail]

They still shrink!

[@la_void9750]

@@TheIronSnail how much though a lot or less

[@ValFinale]

@@la_void9750 the same

[@la_void9750]

@@ValFinale thanks

[@ethannkyle9858]

11?!?!

[@ChrisVallejos]

You're supposed to wear them as they dry. You realize that how you dried them totally defeats the purpose of "shrink to fit".

[@TheIronSnail]

Wearing them for a few hours after they dry will do the exact same thing without the knee bags you realize

[@ChrisVallejos]

@@TheIronSnail try wearing them to wet and to dry. You can lay out instead of walking while they dry and read a nice book if you really think the knees get baggy. What you are doing is "stretch to fit", not shrink, you can buy sanforized selvedge 2 sizes small and do the same thing and spend half the money.

[@hellbent6344]

@11:41 No you didn’t , the instructions were get two or one size bigger . Entry level jeans don’t worry I’ve beaten tons of those. Now I wear lvc 501’s or 501’s selvedge made in the USA 🇺🇸

[@marvean2519]

So if I’m 29, 30w I should go for a 31w ? I’m considering a pair of lvc 501.

[@hellbent6344]

Marvin Marker - it all depends on what fit you want . If you want them hipster tight buy your size . If you want them for work or to ride a motorcycle your gonna need space so I buy one size up on the waist . This guys first mistake was he washed them. I love raw denim so I don’t wash mine for a while but I have many more so I don’t keep using the same one over and over maybe only three times a week or twice a week. So it all depends what you want man .

[@marvean2519]

Hell Bent thanks for you reply. I want them to be a casual pair I’ll be wearing with boots. Snug around the waist, comfortable all around.

[@hellbent6344]

Marvin Marker - my suggestion is buy your size, remember all 501’s fit loose around the ankles. And don’t wash them for as long as you can so they can get pretty cool fades . Once you wash them (the way this dude is doing in this video) they will shrink a lot the first time.

[@IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13]

You gotta wear them in the tub. Get out and wear them til they are dry.

[@TheKonnoisseur11]

Yup I won’t be washing mine thanks!

[@oldkath]

Blue Jean - David Bowie

[@jhhk3771]

you looks like james dean softly

[@arkangel06]

this is my problem, when shrunk they fit my waist, even need a belt, but they're too tight in my crotch like in this video

[@TheIronSnail]

Classic 501 issue!

[@arkangel06]

@@TheIronSnail found a solution, Lee’s are higher quality and fit better. Not joking check out Lee, you might have to size down 1-2.

[@DaveLuna12]

Levi's 501s for 30 dollars where dude?

[@rss7329]

Jc penny today 35 + tax

[@jamesunderwood9100]

Black Friday through Christmas Macy’s and Levi’s stores $37 that’s with tax!

[@boxingproff7627]

I used to use these back in my cholo days, serio.

[@Jeremy-rg3bg]

Why didn't you just buy Levi's just like the 501's but tapered at the bottom?..lol..they make em

[@henrikkrystad2539]

Gooooood! help me where the heck!! do I find (superskinny - buttonfly)

[@RobertLinthicum]

I would have purchased these two or three inches larger in the waist than you did.