**pt. 2! There were so many comments about shirts I missed I decided to do another vid ASAP. I still have a massive list of shirts that haven't been ranked yet BUT I feel like 3 videos in a row is a bit excessive...but if a lot of you people want more...we'll do it...just later (maybe snag some wild expensive shirts to see what the deal is)** anyway! see you next week!! can't wait!
@AndresOssa6 ай бұрын
Never too much. Worry not, dear snail. (Too cringe?)
@L2snakegold6 ай бұрын
Lol waiting for part 4 and 5.
@MrHunter8306 ай бұрын
More please. Also long t shirt suggestions? Specifically for being tucked in.
@1996marioRH6 ай бұрын
You should check out some of the t-shirts Kith offers right now. Would love to hear your thoughts on their Leonard, Alex Boxy, Theo Dolman, and Pima Jersey Heathrow Tee's. The only one I own is the Leonard and it's my favorite shirt I own
@cseymour976 ай бұрын
Upstate Stock 50 /50 tee is killer!! And made in USA right in Brooklyn! They also do white label work so some iron snail tees 😉 Also the Flint & Tinder heavyweight pocket tee is easily the beefiest tee I've ever owned.
@henrycollins24786 ай бұрын
We need a spreadsheet that ranks them. That’s all.
@andrewcyber4Ай бұрын
Was waiting for it at the end!
@maxprangnell82375 ай бұрын
You are providing the best consumer reviews I have ever seen. Thorough, detailed, technical. Pacing of your commentary is economical and keeps me engaged. Really appreciate your work. A fan. Cheers.
@robs.inl.a.41782 ай бұрын
right? excellent.
@TEstevao6 ай бұрын
I speak for the people, Michael, I speak for the people
@TheIronSnail6 ай бұрын
Nipple man himself!
@TEstevao6 ай бұрын
@@TheIronSnail God I hope that doesn't stick 😆
@unknown90726 ай бұрын
On that topic I'd love to see a similar video on tank tops!
@JoeyDecay6 ай бұрын
It's a pretty important question when buying a shirt, not gonna lie.
@JohnnyTaxonomy4 ай бұрын
@@TEstevao😂
@Mellowbaton5 ай бұрын
I just finished my undergrad and I’ve been trying to replace all my old polyester fleece clothes. You and Rose Anvil have been a godsend. 🙌
@davidhunternyc12 ай бұрын
OMG! Because of this video, I ordered the Loop & Weft. It blows my mind. So soft and pillowy. I recently tried on the $185 Samurai Zero t-shirt and, though it's a different kind of t-shirt altogether, I far prefer the Loop & Weft. The natural dye "black" color is more of a dark charcoal grey and will lighten up more with repeated washings. If you're looking for a deep black colorfast t-shirt, looks elsewhere, but if you're looking to embrace textile artistry at its highest form, look no further than Loop & Weft.
@scottrainey23756 ай бұрын
been sick all weekend and have been binging these videos. glad you dropped a part 2 lol
@TheIronSnail6 ай бұрын
Perfect timing! Fell better btw
@TheIronSnail6 ай бұрын
Oops I mean feel, don't fell!
@scottrainey23756 ай бұрын
@@TheIronSnail thanks big dog love the content
@gamingwitchutuu4296 ай бұрын
Watch the videos around fall
@ozzy_fromhell4 ай бұрын
Just found out your channel couple hours ago from one of your Levi’s versus Wrangler videos and been watching your videos the past couple hours at work and I must say as a Mexican from California I’m was soooo shocked you didn’t know what pro club was 😂😂wowww it’s what most of our parents would buy us cuz them shirts used to be $4
@WVRLORD6 ай бұрын
Olderbest is more of a boutique or carrier of multiple brands, those shirts you've shown were from a brand they carry called Timecatcher Clo. They also carry Bronson Mfg products at Olderbest.
@Dstryrr3 ай бұрын
I never knew how badly I needed your channel. Learning the history of clothing in these snippets is genuinely amazing and I've been increasing my closet slowly but surely. Still wondering how I've spent 3k on clothing in the past month but oh well I guess
@stephenmcnamara83182 ай бұрын
compact yarn is a spinning technique that puts additional pressure at the point of spinning - which as you said - means less visible loose strands and a cleaner look. BUT It can also be a little bit of a cheat to use shorter fibre cotton in yarn weights that usually require longer fibres to hold. It is a manner of balancing cost. It also is a specific look vs open end. Most of my favourite print t's from my youth were on open end in a beefy t weight - which had a way of shrinking and wearing, that just made them look tough. As a garment professional, I know sometimes T's should be clean...and then there are fashion swings that make me like clean, and then let me like raw.... Things like Tencel, Modal, Interlock rather than single jersey, compact spun, single mercerized and the like are all possible to get a cleaner look...while open end, maybe using carded or semi-carded yarns, brushing or some other techniques give you that more raw look. So many trade offs - it is what makes a simple list almost impossible to do. But also a reason you sometimes find something amazing at Kohl's, Costco, or any part of the Abecrombie group
@lbmerc86 ай бұрын
3sixteen are still my favorites. Both the heavyweight and Pima tees. Heavy’s fit more like a vintage tee i.e. underwear, which is how I use them, under sweaters, overshirts, and light jackets. Great value for either option at $98 for a 2-pack. As long as you don’t mind the monochromatic color options
@philipbeadle64466 ай бұрын
Nice to see Pro Club get a shoutout. I used to get their tanks tops 3 for $15, and they were go-to gym shirts/work uniform undershirts. They're a little on the heavy/rough side, but they're cheap and last forever. And they really do hold their shape well.
@davidskibinski78525 ай бұрын
Just too rough.
@zaulhernandez02193 ай бұрын
@@davidskibinski7852just like raw denim, they definitely require a break in period 😅
@noadr5gon6 ай бұрын
I have an unbound merino t shirt, which is 100% fine merino wool. I like it quite a lot! it was a bit long so I hemmed it myself, but man the magical qualities of merino stand out. Ive washed it in a machine once since getting it a few months ago and (aside from running the pits under the sink to rub off my deoderant residue) it still smells clean. Its also cool enough for summer. Cool shirt, although probably not as tough as Wool&Prince
@MichaelChelen4 ай бұрын
100% merino can be really comfy, but can never go in the dryer or it will permanently shrink
@biggunsclub12 ай бұрын
Wow I learnt a lot today. I’m a T shirt guy and didn’t really know what made a good T shirt. Thanks for this amazing insight.
@JacekS40619 күн бұрын
Sunspel. Thanks for the recommendation. I went to their outlet store in Cheshire Oaks and I paid £54 for their classic t-shirt. It's the most expensive t-shirt i ever owned and it's the best in my wardrobe. Quality is great. Customer service was also great.
@IanSmithKSP5 ай бұрын
You’ve earned my sub. Your production quality is great. Your videos are rich with information. And you’re both sophisticated in traditional quality and yet understanding of the most cutting edge modern art, which is, in my opinion, Andreas Gursky
@DMorgan776 ай бұрын
Loved it, ready for part 3…. and beyond. Btw Jake’s (Almost vintage style) video where he included Bronson was a great watch too.
@narutodayo5 ай бұрын
I love my Asket regular t-shirts, but even more I love my Asket Lightweight t-shirt. It's so thin that I'm not sure if it passes the nipple test, so maybe getting one in white is risky, but as for the feel and comfort, my god, that thing is so damn soft!! My favorite t-shirt by far. Would love to see your impression of it.
@neilyoung50293 ай бұрын
The ‘Olderbest’ t-shirts are all fantastic….every one of them I’ve got have been superb for the money….and just superb full stop. And I do believe they are the same company.
@omargarcia12916 ай бұрын
You should check out American Giant's Slub Tshirt. They also have other options but I think the slub t-shirt is their most popular. I would be interested to hear how they compare to some of your other favorite t-shirts in the $50 range.
@whathandleshouldiplacehere5 ай бұрын
I just discovered your channel today and been binging. I usually never finish videos because my attention span has been wrecked but I've been watching your videos till the end and it's so informative and entertaining!
@ryankirkman5485Ай бұрын
Another diamond in the rough you missed: The 10.5 oz Cotton Loopwheel Tubular Long Sleeve T-Shirt by Time Catcher, which is also sold on the Olderbest website. Time Catcher is a sub-brand of Olderbest (and maybe so is Bronson, or vice versus). Regardless of whether this is actually a loopwheel shirt, it is an insane quality for the cost. After showing my wife, she had me order some for her.
@Bandoughha15 күн бұрын
Hoping to see the Buck Mason Pima classic shirt, Field Spec shirt, or their brand new Sidewinder shirt.
@petergrams63905 ай бұрын
After trying to find the samurai shirt mentioned first in my size ( a struggle, no surprise it’s sold out all over right now) and seeing all the tee options just from Samurai, I think a breakdown of just their offerings would be useful! I’m gonna start out with the heavyweight pocket tee and go from there. First time trying anything better than a true classic. I liked them at first but they’re starting to really pill up and get flimsy.
@dylanevans16926 ай бұрын
You gotta get a Tezomeya t shirt. it might take a couple months to get to you, but it’s worth it. the things they use to dye the shirt make essentially every shirt a 1 of 1. Pomegranate skin, insect gall, palm tree nuts, etc.
@Bashy7766 ай бұрын
Sunray sportswear tee shirts (makaha) is one of the best I've worn, also got the Warehouse & Co, the 2 best imo, but true i didn't try the bronson though:)
@BenGoldNYC5 ай бұрын
I bought the front street shirts and I’m very impressed with them. I noticed they have a blind hem instead of a coverstitch which is kinda cool
@shawnharvey8565 ай бұрын
The 2 that looked best on you were Front General Store and Reigning Champ. Great video!
@parkermadison63686 ай бұрын
Excellent video Michael! I like how you included good entry level shirts and luxury level shirts. I have a couple recommended brands and models. For warm weather Left Field NYC makes a Hemp cotton blend slubby shirt that I enjoy. American Giant has there premium slub tee that comes in a nice variety of colors. I also recommend American Giants Everest Tee it is a superheavyweight tee at 15.2 oz. Also Camber makes there Finest tee and there max weight tee .
@rpaluczak6 ай бұрын
The real question (for me) is which shirt comes from the factory at the shortest length? Next to collar, length is the second biggest priority for my short self.
@AndresOssa6 ай бұрын
Just got the Ivy Chinos from Bronson and I'm very impressed. Going for the t-shirt next.
@austynnolen57246 ай бұрын
The best shirts I’ve found are abercrombies vintage inspired tees. They fit perfectly, shrinkage is minimal, and the softness/quality is incredible for the price.
@thomasirwin55213 ай бұрын
I am always on the hunt for a good quality white tee, loved the video. A personal favorite is “basic rights” unfortunately they stopped production to do other things (sad) but bought multiple before they closed if you can get you hands on one would recommend
@calebmorse6 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I'm sure the last thing you need is another tee shirt but Arms of Andes would be a good one to check out. They are completely plastic free and made entire out of alpaca wool with cotton thread.
@willmonk66233 күн бұрын
Do comfort colors. Their plain t shirts are great and a great price.
@Ovenman9406 ай бұрын
Bought a Wonder Looper after the last video and I'm looking forward to spending even more on recommendations from this video that absolutely nobody but me will ever notice.
@sammyb16516 ай бұрын
😂 A kindred spirit.
@Burton821906 ай бұрын
One of us… One of us. The Tsuriami Ultimate Pima is phenomenal and I hope on everything they end making it in at least Navy.
@Ovenman9406 ай бұрын
@@Burton82190 it's honestly made me look into home dyeing
@Noremac52236 ай бұрын
Lady white co makes a merino wool shirt that is awesome. Honestly would wear it everyday. I think that would have likely been the best comp to the cotton shirts. It has really solid construction and has a decent weight to it.
@TheCameron10386 ай бұрын
I love this series of t shirt videos, thank you. I am surprised you haven't given 3fit s look yet. Custom adjacent fit for like 16 bucks each depending on fabric choice. I love them.
@marcms254 ай бұрын
I would add your bicep size along with the chest width measurement to have a better idea of how much space the tshirts have on the sleeves
@nickrysavy34816 ай бұрын
Late to the suggestion box - Bleu de Chauffe. A French company. Interlock organic cotton and eco/health friendly dyes used. Thanks for the deep dives on this matter.
@Hasmiral3 ай бұрын
They only make mens shirts though
@breh93206 ай бұрын
Make one for button down casual shirts please 🙏😭
@sandlotpass6 ай бұрын
+1
@mkyle394pok4 ай бұрын
Thrice yay!!!
@Owtyg233 ай бұрын
Kamakura wins it
@mateuszkrytyk5711Ай бұрын
100$ for a single shirt is kinda a high asking price @@Owtyg23
@zaulhernandez02193 ай бұрын
lol proclub is a hood staple 👍🏼😊 probably why you’ve never heard of it Michael 😂 super affordable I love them
@a.richards21446 ай бұрын
I never thought a video about t shirts would keep me this entertained. Your channel is a diamond in the rough and I’m gonna have to buy some of these shirts now :)
@thealphatopian10316 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite channels on KZbin
@MTNMАй бұрын
I like Roark midweight pocket t-shirts a lot
@Nwilkinson22Ай бұрын
We need hand over head test to see how the shirt raises when you reach for things.
@m.leehinman5 ай бұрын
Thanks to your previous video, I tried out the Kirkland T-shirts (since they run long) with good success. I'd sad not to be able to get any of the other brands (since I am 6'4" and almost none of the brands have tall sizes). Thanks for doing this comparison; you should do one for socks!
@Bandoughha15 күн бұрын
Can you expand on the two ways ribbing is joined to the neckline? Why one is better?
@directedbydon5 ай бұрын
I'm not one for buying a ton of clothes (it seems wasteful as tastes will surely change), but I'm going to sub bc Michael is such a funny guy and seems like someone I could get a beer with (or a sweetgreen salad bc he's working out now).
@machupikachu83494 ай бұрын
have you tried the Jungmaven hemp tees? I like the Baja tee with a 55% hemp and 45% cotton and their 100% hemp tees (forgot the style name).
@BenGoldNYC6 ай бұрын
Los Angeles Apparel has been my go to for a while, but I’m curious about these other ones. I live in Brooklyn and can walk to Front Street General Store. I guess I’ll have to check those out in person. Would love a review of technical r-shirts. Been trying to find one for cycling but the sizing is all over the place and the textures are weird.
@gotdirt664 ай бұрын
NIPS. Now I do have what T shirts do not ride up. I am in the process of loosing weight and when I go to the GYM the T shirts ride up and show the stomach. Plus I am genuinely looking a for t- shirt that does not irritate my under arms whether it me a longer arm pit area vs the super short T shirts.
@paololololol6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the videos. I’m on the anti-synthetic side of clothing materials considering you could buy things for the price of $70 for 100% cotton…that’s my personal preference but some people prefer all the things
@Unbleachedapparel6 ай бұрын
❤ Natural fibers all the way!!
@Maurice4326 ай бұрын
So happy to see the Warehouse 4601. Absolutely superb t shirt
@prospect_joe98136 ай бұрын
For sea island cotton John Smedley >>>>> Sunspel With that said, Bayside is what a lot of higher end *heritage* brands use as blanks and they're pretty solid for the price
@AlvinDeCruz6 ай бұрын
The white cotton Ts from Massimo Dutti are pretty good too, especially the smooth feel for the medium weights. Not sure what kind of cotton they use though.
@RewDowns2 ай бұрын
I wish that Sunspell shirt didn't look so nice, I'll be thinking about that one for a long time
@IdeaStudioBKK6 ай бұрын
You have to try out Double Goose tees from Thailand. especially with your size and build they might be a game changer for you.
@TheIronSnail6 ай бұрын
Added to the list!
@IdeaStudioBKK6 ай бұрын
@@TheIronSnail Might be the best $6 you ever spend. But shipping will probably be way more. LoL If you fancy some info on Thai swag or more specifically Handmade boots from Thailand I'd love to chat.
@davidhunternyc13 ай бұрын
Michael !!! Because of YOU I bought black t-shirts by Standard & Strange (Wakayama) and Lady White Co. You're killing me... Christian never convinced me to spend money on a watch but you're bankrupting me with clothes.
@kevinmarcus6255 ай бұрын
I've been really interested to hear your opinion on the "UES No. 8 Slub Nep Tee". They look amazing.
@bbkid81006 ай бұрын
Loop and Weft is such a nice brand. Their thermals are top notch.
@bassybossy6 ай бұрын
Have been looking forward to the follow up, and boy, you did not disappoint! Informative and fun
@corysekine-pettite17836 ай бұрын
Another t-shirt to try for Part 3: The Vintage Heavyweight T-Shirt (2-pack, white) from Gustin. These are my new, favorite tee. Hefty and comfortable!
@thee_jpp6 ай бұрын
I'd be curious to hear what you think about the field spec cotton heavy tee from Buck Mason. Really love the weight + texture of it
@Big_Syyori5 ай бұрын
Gotta check out Shaka wear. Kinda rough but really nice quality
@AALTERR6 ай бұрын
I know the white tshirt might be too late. Can you try checking out hanes shiro tshirt
@hellohippoh6 ай бұрын
Let's gooo thanks for covering the Front General Store one!
@marypeters19285 ай бұрын
Wool tshirts are amazing to travel in.
@MichaelSeneschal4 ай бұрын
I’ve tried a few black tshirt brands. The best (for me) is Jockey. Not their undershirt, but their classic tshirt. I feel like Jockey gets overlooked and might be thought of as just underwear.
@1996marioRH6 ай бұрын
You should check out the Kith Leonard tee or some of their other blank t shirts. The Leonard is my current favorite shirt
@josephgschwartz6 ай бұрын
Eddie Bauer Legend wash. I recommended it last video and I’m doing it again.
@CookingMike6 ай бұрын
As a wool lover im glad you included it in the line up ! Ive been very curious of wool&prince . I have a duckworth polaris ahirt ' and considered getting the wool$prince hoodie .
@_nachovazquez3 ай бұрын
Have you though about colorful standard tshirt? Really nice tshirt :)
@thehealthycircle6 ай бұрын
You need to make a video like this for jeans!
@yaprui52795 ай бұрын
if there's a part 3, pls consider reviewing: Benjamin Barker - Organic Crew Tee! it's based in Singapore.
@jasonhsia24226 ай бұрын
stefan brandt > sunspel... try it. It doesn't shrink XD. They made a silk t-shirt for $400 for giggles and it looks like th cotton version. That cotton is engineered and carded to be extremely long.
@iSkwerl6 ай бұрын
Bronson sells directly on sites like Taobao as well. I've purchased through them for much cheaper, albeit it was a huge pain and I likely wouldn't do it again. It came out to be somewhere between $10-$15 per shirt (the non-loopwheel, I believe "nonstock" branded) shipped, versus the $25 per shirt as sold on the US facing site. The sizing is way off because they use sizing used in Asia - for example, I'm between a L and XL in US sizing, I had to order XXL in the Bronson.
@TheEmpiredown6 ай бұрын
The Iron Snail busting out a different type of “try on” vid than I’m used to seeing in my feed, apparently I’m a Gentleman of Culture. Don’t judge! 😂 Personally I’m appreciative that you didn’t go down the wet t shirt road, M. Awesome vid.
@iguessifyousayso6 ай бұрын
JC Penny's Stafford Heavy weight Tees are the best bang for the buck!!
@pava36024 ай бұрын
Great video! Would it be possible to have a similar video about boot socks?
@levifowler2966 ай бұрын
Would you be able to do a pre-washed / used selvedge denim guide? I don’t really see anybody on KZbin doing that. Oni just release a new bio-wash version of their 246, Orslow 105 2-year wash, 3Sixteen, etc.
@retroransom98616 ай бұрын
I love your videos. Can't afford most of what you show, but I love them anyway. What watch are you wearing in this video?
@djnosafety5 ай бұрын
Would love to see some European quality tees included as well, or at least tees that are easily available and can compete with Merz B when it comes to quality and fit.
@matthewr85026 ай бұрын
Has anyone mentioned The Flat Head? Their heavyweight plain t-shirt has been my favourite for years.
@mikesilverii75354 ай бұрын
Los Angeles Apparel have been my fav
@josiahmclain98015 ай бұрын
Dude how do you keep these white shirts you’ve worn for years looking so fresh
@benjamingray44885 ай бұрын
I see a lot of tubular shirts here. Is that the way to go?
@somethnaboutnothn49285 ай бұрын
JCPenney “Stafford” heavy duty white tees for the win! 🏆 (Wore these back in the early/mid 90’s as a teen).
@f.kieranfinney4576 ай бұрын
I still remember when cycling jerseys were made from merino wool. It’s amazing what wool can do.
@JamesBartlett19946 ай бұрын
I definitely prefer my interlock Wool&prince tee but I like the regular weight too. I don't have the same thoughts about it feeling like active wear though
@TheIronSnail6 ай бұрын
Interlock seems honestly gorgeous. I have a sample of wool interlock fabric around the same weight and it's unreal. That being said, interesting! I think for me it's probably the extreme bounce/stretch of it when compared to cotton
@flyinb222 ай бұрын
Can you include true to size fit? I am nearly exact size as you and it’s very random if you choose a small or med.
@peterrusso7336Ай бұрын
2:48 been using Jane’s white T-shirts for pajamas for pretty much my entire life. Stay away from the ones in Walmart and target. They are rougher than the Costco ones
@meetfefar6 ай бұрын
Good Job on both the videos Hight Appreciate your effort , keep up the good work Can you make similliar video for pants (cargo , everyday pant) ?
@PeachysGaming3 ай бұрын
Harder with thier business model, but I love the gustin heavyweight tees. They come in packs of 3, but being only 64$ for the pack they are really nice IMO. I have like 12 now. Add em to the tshirt olympics!
@charlierobson83876 ай бұрын
This may be unpopular, but the Gap Original t-shirt is great for the price, especially since you can get them on sale for about $13 pretty frequently.
@yaseenhussain3 ай бұрын
for the best budget t shirt would you pick bronson over uniqlo?
@daleheffernan6 ай бұрын
Glad to see Reigning Champ on the list, but sadly they've started to move most their manufacturing overseas. However, here are some suggestions for basic tees still made in Canada. Stansfield's, known mostly for their heavy weight wool Henley sweater (the unofficial uniform of Vancouver Island, complete the look by driving a rushed out Toyota pickup with a can of Lucky in your hand). They sell a two pack of 100% cotton tees for $40 CAD, made in Nova Scotia. Anian. Known mostly for their overshirts, made from 100% post consumer recycled wool. They make a 100% cotton (50% of which is recycled) in a beautiful ecru colour. $55 CAD made in Vancouver. Ecologyst. Silly name, formerly known as Stika, they are now B corp certified. Their tee is 100% organic cotton, 250gsm, $85 CAD, made either in Victoria or Vancouver.
@ryanfreeborn6 ай бұрын
I am obsessive about white t-shirts and own almost every possible t-shirt from every category. Easily 100+. I know it seems crazy but the Sunspel Sea Island really is the greatest shirt of all time. The softness and drape is unlike anything else I've tried. It's cost makes it inaccessible to most, which sucks, but the cost is justified. Nothing has compared, and I've tried them all. Other great shirts: Merz B, Warehouse 4601, UES Ramayana, John Elliott Crop, 3sixteen Pima, Bronson. Shirts that I think are overrated/overpriced: Tezomeya, Whitesville, Velva Sheen, Buzz Rickson, Mister Freedom (cut way too long), Reigning Champ, all the other Sunspel non-sea island shirts.
@fullofjeff6 ай бұрын
out of curiosity have you tried any of the james perse shirts?
@moshymosh6 ай бұрын
Hate to break it to you but Sunspel Sea Island really isn't the greatest shirt of all time. Stop lying to yourself. I actually know what the greatest shirt of all time is. It's from a Spanish blank manufacturer. Not gonna tell you the name though. Go look for it yourself.
@ktakashismith6 ай бұрын
@@moshymoshlol imagine finding a product that you really like, and instead of simply enjoying it (or, for another matter, acknowledging that the reasons you prefer it are inherently subjective), and instead you twist your enjoyment into vitriol to prove your superiority in judging plain white T’s over all other peons in the KZbin comments. Nobody cares about your Spanish blanks, stop kidding yourself. I won’t tell you where to find basic social skills, you can look that up yourself.
@Powerhungry50006 ай бұрын
Consumemaxxing
@ktakashismith6 ай бұрын
You own over 100+ white t-shirts?
@FFFJohnnyАй бұрын
When washing your shirt in the video, are you using a "normal" cycle? Are you washing on a cold or warm temp? Also, are you hand or machine-drying? I would love it if you used a normal warm-wash cycle with machine drying and measuring the shrinkage results thereafter. I'm constantly on the hunt for a premium tee that has the qualities and doesn't shrink much, or at all. Unfortunately, I can't get myself to hang dry my clothes due to space and time needed. FYI, best clothing reviews on KZbin!