20% armour reduction Less ammo More enemies A new difficulty Less creates/ pick ups They didn't just increase the difficulty once they increased it 5 times
@k2error86Ай бұрын
enemies on lethal also have more health and amour btw plus nerf skill (tactical scan) and melta bomb no new Dark angle skin and new sidearm even it is ss2 HUGE L for me
@Psion_PhoenixАй бұрын
Just a tip, you don’t need to finish majoris to get the full health back, finishing any enemy (even minoris) gives you the full health back on finish with banner.
@karatekoala7345Ай бұрын
When my teammate executed a Neurothrope boss, I dropped my banner and all three of us got full health back. I've only had the one opportunity so far, so I still don't know if it's repeatable.
@D34dmou5328 күн бұрын
If i have no executes around when i drop a banner i just stim it fills up all white health
@pj3461Ай бұрын
You can also use stim during banner and it will clear mortal wound .
@romainstefanelli9469Ай бұрын
I was screaming that in my head everytime he was talking about using 2 stims 😅
@almachizit3207Ай бұрын
I think that limited ammo and tight formation should be either randomised or optional extra modifiers, like adding skulls to Halo campaigns, or the rotating modifiers on Destiny 1 nightfalls.
@penguins0301Ай бұрын
Bulwark POV as a medic : "Offer thanks" "Offer thanks" "Offer thanks" "Offer thanks" "Offer thanks" "Offer thanks"
@mingzhou8848Ай бұрын
Really love the content from Helldivers 2 to Space Marine 2 you are the BEST Takibo !
@dfinkel91Ай бұрын
Keep in mind rather than using 2 stims after being downed you can also just use banner and a single stim to get rid of mortal wound at any health level
@spazz954Ай бұрын
Lifesaver team move! Almost always save your stims if a bulwark is on your team.
@tomyorke3412Ай бұрын
I have been crashing a lot since the update. My Internet is fine with every other game i have, but 1/3 games just crash having 2 relic armour data and the geenseed only to crash right at the end is extremely frustrating. Im going to give the game a miss for a few days because im just getting pissed off with the crashes. Very good game, though well played im with you on the ammo crate nerf
@MR2_LeedyАй бұрын
I got the same issue, even tried to get some dataslates in campaign after crashing so much and it crashed while nothing was going on in a campaign mission too! So frustrating
@del6873Ай бұрын
I'm glad you said that because I thought it was just me. I'll get to the end of a mission, and the game would crash .
@VioblightАй бұрын
Are you crashing or disconnecting? I solved most disconnect issues when I plugged in to the internet over WiFi. If that helps
@thomascoolidge2161Ай бұрын
Try removing the 4k texture pack and see if that helps. I think it fixed it for me.
@recklessgaming2369Ай бұрын
Haha u guys are backwards of me. Before the update my game was crashing so my much and now it's good.
@GoToBedSheevaАй бұрын
Best class in the game for real. Had a really good bulwark that dropped the banner when he saw me on low health doing executions.
@IanMonteiro-td9kwАй бұрын
Solid video, bro. Liked and subscribed. I didn't know about the 2 heals healing the mortal wound, tho lol I'm 20 hours in and with only a lvl 11 assault and lvl 4 heavy. This game made me love the warhammer universe.
@SpartanK4102Ай бұрын
Wait I had no clue you were Steam Hunter too. I've been watching all of your videos
@ericwilkins5094Ай бұрын
same, I even realized the similarities in thumbnails but never thought anything of it
@SpartanK4102Ай бұрын
@ericwilkins5094 Not to mention his armor customization in game. Still never crossed my mind somehow
@Get5omeАй бұрын
I didn't realized before hi told. i even saw in comments that someone accused steam hunter that he stealing thumbnails from takibo :D
@xSabinx1Ай бұрын
@@SpartanK4102I noticed his username in the steamhunter vids when he would show his builds and was confused initially
@michaelbustamante880829 күн бұрын
Brothers; fight, fall (it happens), believe, rise, repeat, and succeed.
@brtt_Ай бұрын
The added difficulty has been an improvement. Makes classes have to play their actual roles. I feel like those complaining don’t fully grasp that.
@Scheckler27Ай бұрын
Great playing and info / thanks man ! I'm gonna try Bulwark tomorrow but I can't really parry on any character. I need a sixth finger haha
@auserytАй бұрын
Before the patch i found solo ruthless with heavy using the big plasma very easy. One shot enough to make all majors in front of you executable.
@FellixNoAmatsuАй бұрын
Yeah I did exactly that with my level 1 Heavy (pre-patch), the Heavy Plasma was OP af. Base version was 2/3 tapping majors.
@spazz954Ай бұрын
Did they intend to make every difficulty even harder with this last patch? It insane some runs! And ruthless feels easier than substantial most runs! Why would the second difficulty have a.wave with a carnifax, followed by a lictor zeno spawn??? With no ammo or stims in between? Ended up with zero ammo fighting the floating nutsacks!! Team wipe. I get ppl want hard mode, UT save that shit for ruthless and above. Half the friends that pre ordered this game are over it already. And they are into 40k!!
@sturmmagnunstein1008Ай бұрын
Its RNG. Ive ran into hellbrute and 3 terminators simultaneously. Lethal. We didnt last 30 seconds.
@TheFreakdude42Ай бұрын
I just started playing and thought I was really bad at the game.
@Get5omeАй бұрын
yes ai director changes touched all difficulties. armor and ammo nerf hit substantial and ruthless
@vynnskiАй бұрын
I've watched a bunch of your alternate channel videos and had no idea that was you!
@lancehaderlie9587Ай бұрын
Tight formation is a fine idea but it needs to have about 3 times the radius. So the spacing between squadmates can exist for sniper, heavy, assault, etc
@Get5omeАй бұрын
so its basically unnecessary mechanics
@escanor3787Ай бұрын
@@Get5ome yep
@IntrusiveThot420Ай бұрын
Stims heal a set amount of HP + all your contested HP. It's a janky mechanic, but if you take a good chunk of contested damage you can often get away with only spending ONE stim to heal a mortal.
@3Zclap14 күн бұрын
honestly if ur running solo they just need to turn up the bots DPS a bit, but other then that ur fine especially as a bulwark, if you learn ur class and everything it can do you wont have any issues for example taking the perk that allows normal gun strikes to give 1 armor back is huge, also saving stims for when ur on perma death dropping banner then using a stim can take you out of perma death and fill ur ammo, and executing any enemy just after dropping banner also refills health so if you play to ur class's strengths there are no issues for you as a bulwark. i also think it is very important for ur team mates to fully understand how bulwark works because 95% of the time my team does not know wtf they are doing, ill leave red enemies that are ready for execution point at them and my team mates fully ignore it, or ill tell them to inject a stum when i drop banner and they ignore me
@doedelzak3914Ай бұрын
i find playing bulwark on lethal harder with teammates than with bots. Because the bots almost never die you don't need to heal them, only myself. With teammates i struggle with timing the banner right so they get the heals from it. Also many people don't understand that if you have mortal wound and a stim, i can banner so you get full health + mortal wound healed
@doedelzak3914Ай бұрын
btw this is only true as long as no flying tyranids spawn, then i hope i have a good sniper teammate lol
@Get5omeАй бұрын
hell even most bulwarks don't understand how's banner heal works. At least those who present in my teams
@WINTERGREEN53Ай бұрын
I think a lot of good things came out of the update, but I’d definitely put armor restoration and ammo crates back how they were
@VillicusАй бұрын
You can press reload to quick vent and cancel the charge on a plasma weapon
@BLOODKINGbroАй бұрын
Triple lictors are lore friendly. You buy them as unit of 3 but are allowed to deploy them separately across the battlefield board.
@HeavyGee84Ай бұрын
Lmao. Good shit bro.
@Kerenos93Ай бұрын
That's Von Ryan's leapers. Lictors are single units.
@FellixNoAmatsuАй бұрын
They got enough to spare since they're in the planet devouring process.. might as well throw 3 Lictors.. just cause why not am I right? -Some Hive Mind probably
@attilatrosch2511Ай бұрын
Just finished mission 1/2/3 and 6 on leathel and i find it very hard even with a full team. I like the challenge but there are a few point they need to improve: - remove tight formation or adjust it by at least 10 meters, it is very hard to play assault or vanguard lile this. - armor regenaration: the armor regen. Is way to long. I hated the ammo change at first but it is not so bad. At least in a group i never finished a ammo crate before moving to the next section
@thomasprice7642Ай бұрын
The amount of people that put the banner down just once a game is infuriating
@foxplayz3117Ай бұрын
I would love to see apothecary be added as a class to this game, but with the bulkwark heal I don't see how Apothecary can outheal a flag lol
@patrickhuffman9632Ай бұрын
What's up brother legend!
@dreamingabyssАй бұрын
The main problem is the tether system, the amount of ranged enemies, and the ridiculously low amount of ammo in reserve for almost every gun. Ranged enemies suck and don’t have proper counters. Ranged Majoris in particular take crazy amounts of shots to kill, and if you choose to dive them to eliminate them before focusing melee enemies, you lose tether and can’t get armor back. On top of that, you’ve usually lost all of your armor by the time you make it to them unless you’re Vanguard or Assault.
@thomascoolidge2161Ай бұрын
Lasfusil snipers will drop Zoanthropes. Overall Lethal is ok with the exception of tether. I agree that it’s generally a bad mechanic but I think they should keep it and just extend its range some amount. I honestly wish that instead of there just being dedicated difficulty levels that it was completely customizable.. as it sits right now every difficulty choice makes everything more difficult.. and it’s just not really fun.. it’s not steps of difficulty but leaps each change.
@sturmmagnunstein1008Ай бұрын
Heavy, bulwark, tactical are the best classes for this difficulty right now. Vangaurd and assault are not in a good spot... Though thats really always the case, lethal just made it more apparent. Bulwark has crazy contested HP potential. He might lack in damage but he can completely heal friendlies back to full hp. Tactical with auspex is an absolute powerhouse. Grenade launcher is absolutely busted as usual, and makes chaos missions a cake walk. Heavy with bond of brother hood makes it so you never have to worry about mortal wounds. The heavys primary weapons are all very viable, in addition. Sniper is a strong substitute for heavy or tactical IMO but he needs to play at 120% to make sure key targets are gone. Its just easier with tactical GL since no thinking is required, but i guess that bit isnt any different. Dont try vanguard or assault unless youre very, very comfortable with lethal. Overall ive completed every mission, chaos or tyranid, on lethal. This team setup will be the easiest IMO.
@i.r.o.4456Ай бұрын
Just completed all the new lethal difficulty missions with randoms and honestly the tight formation wasn't too bad. Almost unnoticeable even. If you're playing with friends then it's a breeze since you figure out the meta and everyone changes their class perk for more team support. I've had so much more fun with lethal difficulty because it made me think and fight more strategically while in intense combat. But for Solo gameplay? Nah, I can't win at all and pretty much die midpoint of the mission almost always. I noticed vanguard class, bolter and melta weapons struggle big time in lethal difficulty, so I wish vanguard to have some perks to reliably fend itself outside of tight formation, and the bolter desperately needs a buff. I kinda wished the new lethal difficulty would spawn more boss enemies, maybe spawn two at the same time. And decrease the encounter of zoanthropes and neurothrope. In my opinion, the new tight formation debuff reminded me of Halo's Firefights skulls, so we could leave it and have it toggle on or off during the mission. Or have the option to toggle on or off before the game, and gain additional rewards for completing the challenge.
@FellixNoAmatsuАй бұрын
Stims heal contested health before doing their normal healing. Drop banner then stim Bam! Mortal wound healed with a single stim.
@rouvenkling22 күн бұрын
Plasma vs bolt ?
@3ZKZStingАй бұрын
The problem with limited ammo crate is that classes like Sniper and Heavy are extremely reliant on having ammo. Enemies like Zoanthropes are nearly impossible to put down without ammo and to make things worse Ammo Crates are based off the percentage of ammo you need to refill for your weapon meaning Las Fusil is good but will eat like half the crate from empty and the Heavy Plasma Incinerator will literally make ammo disappear leaving anyone else on your team who's reliant on ammo to fight for themselves. All of this isn't a problem on Lethal as it's honestly what you're signing up for but for a mandatory difficulty like Ruthless to simply get Armory Data this and the 20% armor nerf is a bit too much. Hell i'd even say Substantial's 10% armor nerf was just straight up unnecessary.
@Get5omeАй бұрын
Brother ammo reserves separate for each player
@AzsharaTheHighborne15 күн бұрын
Hey man nice video! How are you guys not having any crashes at all ? game is literaly unplayable with blue screens constantly
@3Zclap14 күн бұрын
make sure ur game is on an SSD make sure ur time zone is correct, make sure its upto date, update ur graphics drivers, verify game files run the game as an administrator re install the game ETC
@AzsharaTheHighborne13 күн бұрын
@@3Zclap Nothing works unfortunately. Have already done all those
@UlfOrGrimnirАй бұрын
Genuinely, my only issue with the new difficulty is the grouping. Why is the range so small? Decapitation level, where you plant the bombs, if I'm on one side of the room planting and teammates is on another, we're too far away. The range needs increasing significantly
@free4ll257Ай бұрын
HE HAS A SECOND CHANNEL?????
@GellossgamerАй бұрын
Do you enjoy the chain sword or power sword more on bulwark?
@imnotyourfather28665 күн бұрын
Guys, what ability is that at 2:48? He lost all that contestant health, but the banner gave everything back. I don't remember any description of this.
@caliinyo2077Ай бұрын
Is it me of is your FOV higher ? Also, is there an option for not having your camera lock on target during headshots after perfect parries?
@bapeyape4123Ай бұрын
I just beat all the missions lethal, the, hardest mission by far was the newest one.
@LaeknishendrАй бұрын
The limited ammo is.. limiting x) but my real issue is with the coherency diameter! it ruins, the otherwise awesome diff mode, so much and you feel forced into a certain way of playing. I get that they want the player to feel that we need each other but this is not the way.. Its like they chopped off my feet and asked me to run home as fast as i can
@dannycolwell8028Ай бұрын
How do you get that half and half paint job
@mjthekoАй бұрын
What is it with live service co-op games making the same mistakes that obliterate your playerbase? Helldivers did the same thing. Don't introduce bad mechanics that make the game unnecessarily harder on the player's side. Make the game harder by making enemies tougher. Don't nerf players. They can and will leave.
@moalex6617Ай бұрын
Your sentence on unnecessarily harder on players when the new difficulty is SUPPOSED to make things harder on players is contradictory and doesn't make sense at all. That is the entire point of a harder difficulty, to introduce upgrades and new mechanics that makes it harder on players. I swear everyone complaining about the new team huddle mechanic are just bad.
@mjthekoАй бұрын
@@moalex6617 Your philosophy on this is exactly why people leave negative reviews and leave games in droves. There's a few ways to make moving a box harder. Make the box heavier, or handicapping the mover, for example. Devs need to stop handicapping players in search of higher difficulty. Because that's when they leave. By the way, i haven't been able to play because the game crashes so damn often now that i'm waiting for a hotfix.
@moalex6617Ай бұрын
@@mjtheko Is it a handicap on the players? Or do you just not know how to adapt and play better around the hard mechanic that's on the harder difficulty? All you're doing is complaining, and not thinking about how to play better. Filthy casual.
@almachizit3207Ай бұрын
@mjtheko I have to fundamentally disagree with you with how increasing difficulty should be handled. Easy to medium difficulties can get away with just being bigger numbers as it can be assumed that the player is still trying to get to grips with the game mechanics. However, the highest difficulties need to pose new problems for the player to try to manage on top of the game would otherwise demand from the player. The worst sin that higher difficulties can commit in either approach however is being boring, they need to disrupt 'meta' or 'safe' strategies, not reinforce them
@mjthekoАй бұрын
@@almachizit3207 Handicapping the player is the easiest way to force a meta. By the way, because this isn't *really* a pvp game. (the PVP is... not the point really. It exists but it's not what most people play) there is no need to "balance" the game. Only make it fun. There is no real need to disrupt any meta, nor is there a need to get rid of "safe" strategies. I'm not saying you can't get rid of blatantly OP stuff. Stuff that makes the game look like it's on easy mode, (the grenade launcher build in this game is one of them.) But you shouldn't be making normal gameplay painful. It should not be frustrating to play the game due to incredibly low resources. Like ammo. You should not be forced to skip bosses over ammo concerns. You should not be forced to play with your teammates, full stop. Not in a game like this. a Cross platform co-op? No. There's simply too much variance in who you'll get as a random pub player, and especially given how the levels are, you often won't know if the pubbie on your team is just totally useless until you get a difficulty spike, often 5 or more minutes into a mission.
@killerspy120films2Ай бұрын
Did 9 flawless games in a row with my sword man. All great teams start with a grenade launcher tactical and a Bulwark. Have good teamwork and stay together and you will be fine. (Not applicable to solo I guess)
@lanny7721Ай бұрын
5:34 how is he doing that overhead slam after the 3 light hids after the dash opener? this doesnt work for me nd ive tried the +1 combo ender with both light and heavy
@HeavyGee84Ай бұрын
I’m having such a hard time parrying with the bulwark. Only class i still have not maxed
@del6873Ай бұрын
It's my favorite. That's how I feel about tactical.
@HeavyGee84Ай бұрын
@@del6873 meanwhile I can’t choose between the other 4 😂😂😂. I’m an assault marine by default
@shadowfax-p3yАй бұрын
How you get that power sword skin?
@LloydsSky9Ай бұрын
I think you get it after beating every op on lethal.
@BIackSkillXАй бұрын
10:42 Because of the perk "Defensive Advantage" ?
@DratchGarouАй бұрын
How do you deal with the parry delay on Bulwark? It legitimately keeps me from playing the class, especially on higher ping lobbies. Often Ill try to parry and just get staggerlocked, because it will block and my whole rhythm will get thrown off.
@bapeyape4123Ай бұрын
Use fencing sword, you'll get way easier parries.
@marcelo7431Ай бұрын
every one was shitting on bulwork cause nobody need him for help now hes s teir and every one is coming out saying you need a bulwork in the team just like tactical
@thepunisherxxx6804Ай бұрын
IDK who was asking for these changes. If you look on steam less than 2% of people have the achievement "Beat any operation on ruthless". The armor only on proximity is just such a dumb mechanic. You want difficulty to be challenging but still fun. With that and the armor reduction + more enemies and less ammo it just feels annoying now, not challenging and fun. Imagine if Halo made it so your shields can't regen unless you're close to your team. Its just bonkers how dumb it is. The enemy spawn and balance was close to perfect too. Maybe you could of had some more enemies but I think they went too far with it now. To me the game was close to perfect before the update, now its like they took 2 steps back and 2 points off from the score I'd give it before. Really sad man they ruined it. They need to scrap most of these changes and new mechanics. Awful awful balancing. They don't play their own game.
@Excalibur23427 күн бұрын
Is it really that few? I mean if you have leveled gear you should be able to beat it with relative ease. I beat ruthless pretty easily on both factions
@thepunisherxxx680427 күн бұрын
@@Excalibur234 Its around 16% now according to Steam, but yeah still extremely low. That's the thing man, people see a 500+ upvoted reddit comment being elitist and acting like the game is just so easy, but the public stats on steam show that's just objectively not true. The nature of even going to reddit to post to begin with about a game puts the gamer in the hardcore section already. Most gamers maybe browse r/gaming and never even post. Its filtering the super fans, and while 500 upvotes seems like a lot, its nothing compared to the what, 4 million+ players of the game, maybe more counting other platforms? This is why mobile gaming is exponentially bigger than PC or console. Very low barrier to entry. Most people are not that great at games, even with tons of time invested. For this thread topic, the devs updated the game recently and reverted almost all the unpopular changes. Its better now but still needs some more work. Bolters still feel useless and they need to do something else with "block" melee weapon types, the poor matchmaking, and annoying bugs like bulwarks flag falling through elevators...
@TheFreakdude42Ай бұрын
The leveling is pretty slow, but It's almost as fun as HD2, almost.
@bengieDMZАй бұрын
People be saying bulwark is op but… the experience you get from playing as a bulwark allows you to make any class good… just parry bro.
@Hateful_PsychoАй бұрын
Awh shit Lets do this
@SayakaEternalАй бұрын
For me dodging toward attacks are intuitive, dodging towards attacks can get you behind your attacker, which is a good position against a lot of moves. Then again maybe its my close to 1000 hours of playing souls likes training me to dodge into those swings.
@Get5omeАй бұрын
Is it just me or warriors with barbed stranglers gone wild this patch? They just fill entire area in a matter of seconds with that annoying green shit. I dont remember such productivity last patch
@hollowsgriefАй бұрын
Lethal is to hard but for all the wrong reasons. Also I dislike nerfs, like don't do the same shit helldivers did please.
@trinity9038Ай бұрын
Lethal is very fun if you have a good primary weapon so you can stay with your team and still be effective, sucks to be me tho cause i love my Jump Pack.... It's weird to me that they gave Assault the Non-lethal Gun Strike perk that is supposed to help us survive while being separated from the team after using Jump Pack (which will happen from time to time), and then just essentially removed it for the sake of "Promote teamplay". At least the big shield boy can still help his team by healing them. What is my purpose then ? What is my role in a team ? I love my Hammer i love my Jump Pack, is that bad ? Why do i feel like I'm getting punished just for picking a class... This Coherency BS needs to go, or has its range increased massively, or just GIVE ME MY DANM PERK BACK I SPENT A PERK POINT FOR THAT DANM IT ..|..
@Heretic_mol3st3rАй бұрын
I would put down my banner before executing a major yet I didn’t get any contested health after placing it down so no full health for me. Anyone else had this issue before?
@spazz954Ай бұрын
Do you have the right perk on? Its like the 23 or 24th perk. It was glitches before and worked at like 13
@nelsonfernandes9741Ай бұрын
Don’t say that or they will nerf Bulwark 🤣
@Get5omeАй бұрын
We asked less bullet sponge enemies but in larger swarms. We got nerfed armor for ourselves, less ammo and endless waves of bullet sponges instead. and triple extermis or 2 packs of f'ing Zoanthropes. God Emperor i hate those witches. They cast like machine gun with aimlocked beams and tanky af. like wtf they made of eldar dna, they should've been sort of glass cannons not some f'ing armored gunships. Also i noticed if you miss a hit its very hard to recover because your character staggered and don't do shit when you push the buttons. And tight formation needs to go. its not fun to hold each others dicks and its ruined half of the classes. They really should take notes from Arrowhead and accept that the division like mag dump not fun at all
@wollenwolf7528Ай бұрын
I hate the melee loop in this game, you basicaly are not allowed to hit enemies. I tried balance and block weapons and they are unplayable on high difficulties. I like parries, but I don't want to play passive. I'd say nerf parry, buff regular attacks (like x10), make melee actually stunlock enemies, or at least make it so they can't combo you infinitely if you don't parry
@3Zclap14 күн бұрын
dude plays melee build, "proceeds to shoot everything" WhY iS mY aMmO lOw 🥴
@wyattscott5892Ай бұрын
Day 21 of asking takibo to be my friend on helldivers II
@3Zclap14 күн бұрын
the new map is pretty much anti solo all because of the ending how are you supposed to shoot the boss and defend urself ?
@sixthseisАй бұрын
I STILL can’t parry with Bulawark. WTF am I doing wrong?
@dunk79jmfАй бұрын
Don't hold the button down, just tap it
@sixthseisАй бұрын
@@dunk79jmf Thank you 👍🏼
@moalex6617Ай бұрын
If you play solo on Operations, why do you even care about the team huddle mechanic? Your bots are always going to be by your side unless you're intentionally running from them. Even then it's hard to escape them since they're always following you.
@mingzhou8848Ай бұрын
Do you havé a second KZbin channel called STEAM HUNTER ? If not I think he is stealing your content on Space marine 2.
@vistima6681Ай бұрын
Maybe adding the armour regain range thing and lesser armour as a modifier players can choose instead and lethal difficulty as a limited time event so people could feel it out first could've been nice.
@kolbynope3911Ай бұрын
WAIT WAT WAS THAT SWORD? HOW U GET?
@MrDarkipowerАй бұрын
Clear the new operation on lethal difficulty and you’ll get the appearance
@TerribleBigbyАй бұрын
Ran into a bug where your banner doesn’t recharge when you try to revive a teammate with it.
@cashmoneyman3005Ай бұрын
I personally think all the changes were actually good. I mean this new difficulty is meant to be hard and all these changes expect the teammate proximity one make this difficulty very fun.
@RaseanjrАй бұрын
There are People whom drill a hole in their head for fun doesn't mean you should do it
@technologicalwaste7612Ай бұрын
No solo gameplay?
@hattorihonzo5804Ай бұрын
This is on the nerf list next Then they will need the grenade launcher Then they will nerf the auspex scan Then they will nerf the melta gun Then nerf the melta ammo Then nerf the heal from melta Basically anything that shores up their lack of content and elongates the playthrough through mindless grinding will be taken into account and nerfed.