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[@Rage867]

Imagine being a teacher and having to deal with a kid like this who automatically assumes he is smarter and constantly telling them that science is wrong and they should go look it up. Forrest is a biologist, there is nothing the caller knows about biology that Forrest doesn't know.

[@kevinkoch-jj1uj]

As a former science educator, I've had it happen numerous times.

[@tristantorres3558]

@@kevinkoch-jj1ujthank u for putting up with it, teachers are severely under appreciated

[@hdmaragh]

So many teachers have to suffer through this! I have made 3 science teachers her suffer through me in high school. The only ones I didn’t were chemistry and physics…. But the bio teacher I had bent myself to be annoying

[@MarkoVukovic0]

I'm so tired of theist adults behaving in this way. They are science illiterate yet think they know more than centuries of discovery and people who spend a lifetime studying the cosmos.

[@ryanrobinson2380]

It's like my cousin and he's 37 yrs old.

[@hanhan7395]

I like how he says “I got ya, yall don’t believe stars fall out of the sky..” as if they were the crazy ones and laughs lol

[@FrikInCasualMode]

I wonder if caller is aware that sometimes shooting star is a bag full of frozen astronaut poop, falling from the orbit?

[@franciscosustek7249]

These nuts are scary... specially when challenged

[@IamValak-j9e]

once again we have an uneducated armchair biologist who call in thinking he knows better than an educated, professional Biologist

[@stevewhite6861]

Welcome to religion.

[@JayMaverick]

Ah, a broken rib usually heals therefore god. Can't argue with that logic.

[@joshsheridan9511]

The argument that proves the apologist has lost "Were you there? "

[@meloveAi]

I really, really wanna answer that with "Yes, I saw it all. You don't believe me? Well were YOU there??? Did you not see me there?"

[@arctictruck10]

God created everything from nothing about 6000 years ago but needed dirt to create Adam and a rib to create Eve! Lol 😆 🤣

[@Dcuniverse60]

@@arctictruck10 there is no god he is made up like everything else fiction related

[@matthew6427]

That's how you know it's real! 😉

[@wsconsn]

But then he had to knock up a 13 year old without her consent to create himself, to sacrifice himself, to himself, for an imaginary disease, that he gave you, and you still have….

[@charlestownsend9280]

He also didn't think to make a female human until Adam tried finding a wife with all the female counterparts of all the other animals they made. But he did create Adam with the male reproduction organs without any plans of making a woman, along with the skin that he doesn't like and will latwr command to be cut off.

[@rfisher89]

Forrest is the best man. He can cite exactly how and why things in the universe work and theists can’t respond to real information.

[@Childfree334]

I am embarrassed and ashamed to admit that I used to think just like Antonio. From the time I was a child, I was told what to believe and not to question it. Up until then, I had not read the Bible for myself, but only cherry-picked verses taught by my church. I had assumed everything in the Bible was just true. At Thanksgiving dinner with my family in 2003, I got into an argument about theism and homosexuality with my gay nephew, who was never a believer. I very arrogantly thought I had the moral high ground over him and everyone else who was not a believer. He very calmly encouraged me to read the entire Bible for myself, so I did just that believing it would reaffirm my position. It took me 18 months, but when I was finished, I could not function for 4 months after. I was so filled with rage, so angry, and so hurt that I had been LIED to about the goodness and love of this God. What I read in the Bible had nothing to do with love. It was about a deity that advocated for sexism, racism, misogyny, war, human sacrifice, slavery, and the senseless unaliving of sentient babies and children. No matter how hard I tried, I could NOT do the mental gymnastics required to defend such an evil deity. Right there began my deconstruction. I refuse to believe any divine being inspired the disgusting mess that is the Bible. If anyone should be judged and beg for forgiveness, it is Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah, not people. If anyone should suffer eternal damnation, it is this deity. What it did to Bathsheba's baby son is pure evil. Don't even get me started on the rest. I profusely apologized to my nephew, and we are now closer than ever.

[@chongeiktong3426]

Agreed full heartedly undoubtedly and totally. Would put that deity in jail if possible.

[@lh1673]

Wow same here! Exact POINTS about the Bible, 🍒 picking and wasn’t reading it carefully😅I also was shocked to the core when the Christian org I was in showed a Bible drama from Deuteronomy 13 episode! I still wonder, why I hadn’t known this horrific scripture a command from a God to STONE any members of your family or relatives who doesn’t agree to him😮Since seeing that drama as a Christian that time, I couldn’t take it anymore believing and praising such book God😅

[@jackwhitbread4583]

I applaud you for having the strength and integrity to change your mind when presented with conflicting data, it's not an easy thing for a vast number of humans . People don't often admit they were wrong and apologise for their wrongdoings. I'm glad you were able to admit to yourself that the God you were indoctrinated to believe is a monster and that you were able to make amends with your cousin. I have enormous respect for anyone who has the strength to deconstruct, coming from a secular country and home I can't relate on a personal level but I certainly see the damage and trauma of those abused and traumatised by organised religion and my heart goes out to you all.

[@rikomagic2885]

Antonio really doesnt understand, he just blindly follows a belief. Forrest saying 'we have mountains of evidence against a global flood' is priceless and wasted on Antonio

[@MrCanis4]

“Just look it up”. Where, in the Bible? 😂😂😂

[@amtlpaul]

For this story to even be remotely plausible in a literal sense, anyone with any knowledge of science would have to believe that the way things work wasn't how they worked 'in the beginning', and that for some reason God decided to change it while leaving no evidence of doing so. For example, one would have to believe that the genetic problems that would arise from a whole population coming from just two people, with all the incest that would entail, simply weren't an issue then.

[@alisonjones8861]

Antonio saying "I understand" really sounds like he doesn't

[@rivet92392]

I am amazed how often watching these I just feel soooo bad for the people that call in. Family members, education, and the community let these people down.

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

Nobody makes them believe absurd lies from a book of nasty stories of racism and sexism. The people who choose to believe that are just evil.

[@verko5292]

Science proved stars fall on Earth out of sky. Got it.

[@Marc010]

Science proves beyond a doubt that there was a talking snake or donkey. Doesn't it? Hello?

[@tiltingwindmill]

This was my immediate thought, too.

[@MrCanis4]

“Just look it up”. Where, in the Bible? 😂😂😂

[@nealjroberts4050]

I just want to advise my fellow theists that just because we're both theists it doesn't mean you'll get a free pass getting either atheism nor science wrong. No matter how hard you misrepresent, deflect, or outright lie. I'm sorry that upsets you but I'm under no obligation to defend either your ignorance nor your dishonesty just because I happen to have beliefs.

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

The scientific method means never having to accept coincidences as evidence of the supernatural.

[@IamValak-j9e]

ever noticed that christians never mentioned ' adams' first wife

[@jackwhitbread4583]

Lilith, she was reportedly also made from dust like Adam too right? She was created as Adams equal, Eve was created from Adam and was definitely not created as Adams equal. Christians want to perpetuate the myth that women were created to be subservient to men. It doesn't fit the Christian narrative to mention that Lilith was Adams equal in every way so they don't.

[@soulcrewblue8629]

This caller is beyond willfully ignorant, then that begs the question what lies beyond willfully ignorant?..The religious.

[@jimaureli6475]

It's unbearably awful what religion does to a human beings mind.

[@alanhyland5697]

So apparently, the rib wasn't really a rib. It was a penis-bone, and the story's there to explain why we don't have one. Of course, men blamed it on women...

[@vishouscat]

When he said that stars actually aren't far away from Earth and are actually in our sky, I genuinely believe this guy might have been a troll, I find it really hard to believe that there are people this dumb in the world

[@joshsheridan9511]

I take it you've never talked to a flat earther?

[@stoney2732]

15:19 Is an excellent example of why theists like Antonio are almost impossible to have a conversation with, let alone try to get through to. Forest states, "Stars are millions of times bigger" Yet somehow Antonio heard millions of miles AWAY. Which yes they are, but that was not what Forest said. This type of disconnect frustrates me.

[@jackwhitbread4583]

The smallest stars mass needs to be 80 times the mass of our solar systems largest planet Jupiter. To put it in perspective, the red dot on Jupiter where the storm has been raging for hundreds of years is almost twice the size of Earth. Ain't no stars capable of falling to earth, we would be obliterated outright if a star were ever to even come close to earth.

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

The only way religious people can continue to believe their nonsense is to not listen to the truth and preach it’s not even there.

[@josemiguelgonzalezwachter2269]

Antonio. I hope you went back to school after this call. I REALLY DO!

[@soulcrewblue8629]

Back to reality would be a start.

[@jettythesunfish]

The Adventures of Mudman and Ribwoman!

[@drziggyabdelmalak1439]

😂 brilliant!

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

This sounds like the title of a terrible eyebrow-raising porn.

[@charlestownsend9280]

Got to love when someone who believes in magic argues about biology with someone who has studied and has qualifications in biology. Religion makes people confident enough to talk complete nonsense and think that they're right.

[@petervargo1696]

I mean, there are stars magnitudes larger than our own sun, let alone Earth.

[@jackwhitbread4583]

And there is not a single star smaller than the earth, the lower end of the star spectrums mass requires a star to be 80 times the size of our largest planet Jupiter. If a star somehow defies physics and falls to the earth half the solar system would be wiped out if not the entire solar system.

[@mattarnold4903]

I'm suing AXP.... This caller caused me concussion due to facepalm injuries

[@johncunningham739]

His indoctrination is severe.

[@vidhead85]

He wasn't really proving anything, just rattling off talking points. It was just...okay--where's the proof now?

[@tehspamgozehere]

This call hurts my head. Well done being patient with this one. I don't think I'd have been able to resist saying "So, you think stars fall out of the sky.. Have you ever seen one do that?" when he asked if we've ever seen a star billions of miles away etc and asked "You ever been out dere to see dat?" Augh. Different standards of evidence irks me.

[@Tumbledweeb]

I don't think this caller knows that stars are actually suns.

[@VerdeDrums]

Im starting to think people like this physically don’t have the ability to comprehend words with more than 3 syllables. These people have less than grade school levels of scientific/actual literacy when it comes to defending their core beliefs. When they spit out their pre packaged word salad of vaguely scientific sounding terminology that they themselves don’t know the meaning of, Forest and Mike assume more of these callers intelligence than is warranted. You have to start from step ZERO. Talking to these people like they know what “colloquial” means when they misuse the term ‘theory’ guarantees that your point goes over their head without internalizing any concepts you tried to convey. Engaging with theist arguments for a large chunk of my life, and how little they’ve changed, taught me just how predictable human behavior is; if you grow up in a cult that bludgeons away at your sense of critical thinking from the day you’re able to understand spoken language, then it’s not at all surprising that these same people grow up to be easily afraid, conspiratorial, and fundamentally uncurious people that repeat obviously untrue statements without a second thought. Sometimes it’s not that complicated, sometimes people are just lost.

[@12150pierre]

If there was ever any doubt that religion is harmful ,this proof should put it to rest

[@MegaFrog]

No way he thought the Medic saying "ribs grow back" is a real medical fact

[@jasonhendricks1496]

They didn't eat fruit they ate false knowledge called the bible.

[@mikefetterman6782]

A lizards tail, once regrown is always off color, shorter, crooked, and basically an ugly stub replacing the original. It is not just like it was.

[@LudwigFeuerbach-uf7ri]

I'm glad to live in an area where religious people are viewed as at least slightly crazy

[@clemstevenson]

A caller with terminal Dunning-Kruger disease.

[@smochygrice465]

Congratulations on 417k 🙏 subscribers AXP ❤❤❤ Keep up the great work 💪

[@IamValak-j9e]

these christians are like children in the way they think,

[@drziggyabdelmalak1439]

Thing is...the DON'T think! Thet are brainwashed parrots.

[@dylanjones268]

The scoffing, laughing and irritated responses also shows that they are more arrogant than the people they call arrogant.

[@shrews12001]

Yeah that's not a wildly stupid ass thing to believe.

[@perks6292]

Gotta love the people who wants to keep us in the metaphorical caves

[@drziggyabdelmalak1439]

I actually don't think we should be insulting Cave man. I think he was hellova more intelligent than these religious nutters!

[@Esteban45696]

"Alabama and no pronouns given" well this will go well

[@michaelmay5453]

So if we're going with science here. What would happen if you took a rib and made a person from that? It would be a clone, an exact replica of the person you took the rib from. So it's Adam 1 and Adam 2. Now what?

[@brianharris7243]

The Xtian 'were you there?' is not the gotcha they think it is- were you there when your god supposedly made the universe?

[@presidentskroob]

What they’re trying to do is equate science as another religion. It’s a pathetic last ditch attempt to give their terrible arguments and beliefs more validity by basically going “well y’all didn’t see the Big Bang happen, so how you can say it wasn’t god?”

[@IndridCool54]

What was Eve made from? A rib! And what’s the most delicious bbq item in Memphis Tennessee? A rib! So gawd must exist! 😋

[@jamesarnette1394]

But only at Houston's Restaurant on Poplar Avenue.

[@jamesarnette1394]

And those ribs are ungawdly.

[@dogwalker666]

Dust and Dirt and Soil are different things.

[@puckerings]

In some contexts, yes. In other contexts dust and dirt are synonymous. Don't pretend context doesn't matter.

[@dogwalker666]

@@puckerings Oh I am not pretending context doesn't matter, I was pointing out that he could not possibly know the exact composition, Dust generally in a household can be mostly human and pet detritus, Dirt is what you tread in! Soil is a complex organic mineral mixture we put plants into,

[@olderthanyoucali8512]

Stupid people will defend their ignorance to their last breath.

[@stephenhill8790]

More like indoctrinated from birth, rather than ignorance

[@robertvirnig638]

One would expect the human body would be made up of the same stuff as the available material to make it. It would be more miraculous if we were made up of really rare elements.

[@williambeckett6336]

I knew this was going to be stupid the moment they said "Alabama."

[@Childfree334]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Although to be fair, you can find stupid anywhere.

[@brianmonks8657]

Is that a coincidence? Yes it was.

[@Punch8721]

Adam and Eve had three sons. Where did the next generation come from?

[@joshsheridan9511]

Incest.

[@Andre-zw5kl]

And yet humanity doesn't suffer from any of the problems related to inbreeding. The most easy way to debunk this story in my opinion

[@jamesarnette1394]

The Bible forgot to mention those aliens..

[@LudwigFeuerbach-uf7ri]

normal biblical inbreeding. just like after the mass drowning.

[@MrCanis4]

“God is perfect.” and then he drowned his entire creation except a few. I don’t think that’s ‘good’ at all. But that’s just me.

[@buzzwerd8093]

The sun is a star....

[@robbyroba]

Then God set them up for failure if we are taking the story as is taken

[@Mr_Porter]

Every time someone pulls the ol' sharpshooter fallacy, it’s like listening to nails on a chalkboard. They’re so locked into their flawed logic that no matter how many objections are raised, it’s like we’re speaking a different language-straight in one ear, zooming right out the other. J-Mike broke down the problem with this guy’s argument in detail, but when he hit him with 12:57 "Do you see what I mean?"-nope, dude just kept going. And that last bit? Where he tried to use their answer to "what does theoretically mean?" Oh man, it was peak cringe. I don’t get it-why do theists do this? The second their weak ass arguments are shredded to pieces, they get all in their feelings. But instead of just gracefully accepting the L, they scramble for one last “gotcha” moment, as if they’re whispering “checkmate, atheists” on the way out. It’s sad... like watching someone trip and pretend it was part of their dance routine.

[@christiandietz6341]

So the almighty God killed every single person on earth except a few on some boat, but then needs a bunch of unwashed primitive tribesmen to kill another bunch of primitive tribesmen.? What happened? He had a bad no-power day or something?😂

[@t800fantasm2]

'except a few on some boat" And apparently that was the ONLY boat... lol

[@tonydarcy1606]

The Nobel Prize Committee reserves its opinion on the caller's views about stars falling to Earth, and a global flood ! This guy is clueless.

[@paulcontursi5982]

The willful ignorance is crushing!

[@MGC-XIII]

The argument, "it could happen because you haven't seen it happen" is such a weird way to try and make people believe in your religion. You can literally use that logic on anything! Fairies, Unicorns, Titans, Elves, Sea Monsters, etc.

[@dom11949]

i believe i will have another drink

[@dongee1664]

He's a person always on transmit with lots of interference, never receive.

[@joshsheridan9511]

Antonio. Has a person ever grown from a rib? No so your first argument is silly.

[@TrueCrimeWithEve]

Watching this episode reminds me of why I use the alias “Eve” as a content creator. The narrative of her story by the writer is hella creative, yet totally bias with no proof of her existence or experience. Isn’t that exactly what organized religion perpetuates on all of us Adam’s and Eve’s out here in the world? 😅 I guess my point is, I want to absolve Eve’s cursed name. ❤

[@papabeard4976]

OMG... the ignorance in this caller!!

[@kevin-en2pi]

Ribs regenerate to a near normal radiological profile within 6 months of costectomy when gel foam scaffold is placed in the rib bed. Rib regeneration in patients without gel foam scaffold is slower and poorer in quality. Ribs broken and displaced may heal, but not evenly. Ribs dislodged from cartilage and not displaced will heal (mine did, twice!) . Ribs totally removed with a significant gap between the ends will not grow back together

[@dobrien51]

Only in one of the bible’s creation stories has Eve created from Adam’s rib. In the other, she is created simultaneously with him. ‘Male and female created he them.’

[@OceanusHelios]

And one version is much older than the other. Spoiler alert, the one about the rib is much much older. It is called "New editions." I hope this helps with your confusion. Also, these bibles were decided upon in committee. They didn't fall from the sky.

[@dobrien51]

@@OceanusHelios I am not confused in the least.

[@paulwaring5290]

"I understand"...Uh, no you don't, dude. 😂

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

Could it be possible that ancient people discovered this fact (that the lowest, floating rib grows back) and concocted a story surrounding it? Nah. Proves Yhwh 100%. I'd be much more impressed if you took that rib out and placed it on the ground, it started to turn into a human female.

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

Why are you asking for the impossible? Does reality not suit your wants so much that you have to think of something else just to feel special about living in a uncaring universe?

[@Andre-qo5ek]

Mud Golems...

[@Andre-qo5ek]

the Jefferson bible is the Christian bible withOUT miracles. can we jet one with JUST miracles. gussy it up nice. so it sounds like wizardry.

[@peterlefeuvre5886]

If God is perfect and knows everything he would know that the message method he used will not reach more than 20% of the population after 2000 years Christian’s

[@lh1673]

Okay, if it did happened I bet this book God was surprised to know a snake TALKS😂perhaps asked his rebellious created creature How you did that!?😅

[@ernesthastie-gg7kn]

This chap is the reincarnation of Albert Einstein

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

He never put the bible on a timeline and compared it to known and proven earth and human history

[@IamValak-j9e]

id rather believe in nothing rather than believe in some BS fairy tale

[@wsconsn]

Dust is also composed of dead skin cells…

[@puckerings]

You shouldn't allow his claim that science operates on the process of elimination. That just sets you up to allow an argument from ignorance.

[@OceanusHelios]

Process of elimination is known as deductive reasoning. Science, by and large, uses inductive reason. This goes something like, "Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, behaves like a duck....therefore it is likely that it is a duck." Sherlock Holmes, the character, uses mostly inductive reasoning, despite the author's claims to the contrary.

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

Yeesh JMIKE looks great with a 'shorter' beard like this. STOP BEING SO HANDSOME!!! 🥰🤗🤭

[@Matt-y6c]

He looks like Jesus.

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

More proof that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[@4dojo]

I just can’t understand the way people like this minds work. My mind worked that way when I was maybe 8 or 9 years old, but how can an adult be like this?

[@antimatter2380]

Even if he was right about the correlation of the rib, that would only explain why Adam and therefore men have the same number of ribs. Cool. Show me where a rib grows a human. Because a human can regrow a rib is not the same as a rib regrowing a human.

[@FrankAllgood-uu1xd]

Ignorance is exhausting

[@nealjroberts4050]

First non member to post 😂

[@MGC-XIII]

Antonio, we all start as XX and not XY There's just no way Adam came before Eve if that is what happened.

[@russbroda7207]

It’s like magic up there in heaven man .

[@josephmayfield945]

Yikes.😂

[@johncunningham739]

My dna test goes back 275000 years. The adam and eve myth is not possible. And where did the sons go to get wives. The city of nod... The lds say adam is from another planet and is the father of jesus. Totally bonkers.

[@dantwister5106]

The bible proves that the bible exists, it doesn't prove god or unicorns. Same thing with the quran. Some believers are like, where does my computer come from or that tree there, must be god. So they invent a powerful wizard to explain the existence of something

[@Andre-qo5ek]

like always... people need to REALLY sit down and hash out how they determine truths. not even asking for the correction to a more solid grounding for determination... just what THEY PERSONALLY ... at the very moment , use to determine what they know to be true. - myself as an example. of course i take things on authority at times and believe things that have bad evidence or that i am just behind on the times with. and those are not good reasons to believe something. often these are on topics that do not really matter to me though. when a topic of significance to me comes around... i try to actually investigate it. i try to determine reliable sources and if i REALLY care i try to get primary sources. otherwise i try to stay educated on topics as to not fall too far behind on consensus for things. the thing i try to do is hold consistency, and acknowledge were inconsistencies exist in my thinking. trying always to tease out those inconsistencies.

[@silverfire01]

Reminds me of deadpool who can grow things back when talking about ribs and the sandman from spiderman who is made of sand when talking about adam and mud or dirt.Even if there was a flood that doesnt mean noahs ark story was true or the epic of gilgamesh which has some similarities and both may have been taken from even older stories. science could not possibly verify the creation or the serpent talking to eve or lots wife being turned to a pillar of salt etc.Thats what i dont understand normally people if on jury for example would looks at both sides and evidence and would make a decision they would not just say i believe someones innocent or guilty because i have faith .

[@brooks3376]

NOBODY w that accent EVER knows what they’re talking about.

[@Matt-y6c]

Thats waycist!

[@kaihedgie1747]

He's also a repeat caller calling under another name

[@puckerings]

Fuck off bigot. Callers like to accuse the host of ad hominems, but this is an actual ad hominem.

[@paulwaring5290]

This dude must be a used car salesman l.😂

[@lilmsgs]

Is a video that's 2 years old really "throwback"?

[@Hamurai2001]

I believe it did too

[@melancholymoshpit]

Da star fall from god dome cuz da furmamint is cover erth.

[@lilmsgs]

This caller has no idea what JMIKE is saying. Then again, JMIKES comments are rather unclear

[@soulcrewblue8629]

No, he's one of the best knowledgeable, eloquent atheists out there.

[@lilmsgs]

@@soulcrewblue8629 no so eloquent when he's talking past a not so bright caller

[@soulcrewblue8629]

@@lilmsgs No, trying to educate, inform a "not so bright caller" , by the way that a compliment for this caller.

[@Jeremy-xu3yu]

Repent of your sins. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life...... John 3:16, Luke 13:3, 1 Peter 1:23 KJV

[@dogwalker666]

Reported for spamming

[@amtlpaul]

What specific sins do you think I need to repent of?

[@t800fantasm2]

Reported for SPAM, I'd report for stupidity too if they would allow it...

[@joshsheridan9511]

Nothing to repent for, and I wouldn't want to be like you.

[@tjport1980]

Repent for your lack of evidence and your gullibility

[@sanjeevgig8918]

rib can grow back =/= rib can grow into a FULL HUMAN OF THE OPP SEX. . LOLZ

[@SecondaryHomunculus]

"I'm just assuming that you're gonna believe in one of the gods." Well, there's your first problem. Lifelong atheist here. It's ALL mythology -- you have fairytales.

[@OceanusHelios]

His claims amount to saying something like an atheist mechanic would worship a mechanic god. It is an absurd way of jumping to conclusions about the minds of others.

[@Flamingpins]

Alabama is 43rd in education

[@alamunez]

“no pronouns given” Oh boy, here we go! 🫣 Edit: that was written during the intro and the caller’s arguments turned out even worse than I predicted.

[@Dan-ys8nk]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@emoryogglethorp8180]

Bro literally dropped it "it's just a theory" meme at the end, freaking painful LOL

[@markeastlack4180]

How does Antonio feed himself?