THEATRE NERD REACTS TO EPIC: THE MUSICAL - THE CIRCE SAGA

[@prometheus3498]

The saying "All Men Are Pigs" is literally derived/inspired from Circe in the Oddysey lmao

[@Kingnoodle09]

Huh really?? That’s awesome! (Or should I say Epic)

[@abthedragon4921]

11:41 Actually, Hermes is one of the few gods that usually offers aid to Greek heroes without expecting much in return. He's a trickster god so he likes helping underdogs. Also, they don't address this in Epic, so this isn't a spoiler but Hermes is actually Odysseus' great grandfather, so he has another reason to help him out here.

[@jacobtorres1835]

Hermes is also a god of travelers, and Odysseus definitely counts as a traveler lmao

[@MatthewCYN15]

All the famous Greek heroes like Perseus, Heracles, Orpheus, to name a few All had help from Hermes and Athena at some point.

[@elijahspooner3462]

Also, Hermes is Circe's ex. That is another reason Hermes is helping, to mess with his ex.

[@Caedus696]

@@elijahspooner3462 I really wish people would stop spreading that info. Hermes being Circe's ex lover comes from the modern fantasy novel Circe, it does not come from greek mythology.

[@Iscatel_Minusov]

Let's be honest - if Hermes is one of those olympians who can be trusted relatively safely, then Athena is... Well, not to say that the worst choice, but certainly not the best.

[@DParkerNunya]

Gigi's depiction of Circe climbing over the couch like a wild animal has not done anything to my brain chemistry, I promise

[@Michaellearnsart]

Cap 🧢 (but same)

[@wyren925]

well it affected mine without a doubt

[@jesuschristbutafab9923]

my single neuron has been activated

[@comandantethorn9929]

she really made Circe look like someone whod just seduce you no questions asked and it shines some light into the kind of will that Odysseus pulled from to resist it

[@LadyFYRN]

Liar

[@riverroth3688]

How dare you doubt Hermes the homie. He's one of the few decent gods in Greek mythology.

[@JagaDraw]

Our homie Hermes got too much shady energy lol, he's so funny tho

[@TrivialRisk]

Yeah. Just don’t look up why he’s Odysseus’ great grandfather though.

[@tektyrant]

I have watched like 30 people react to Epic. Not a single one of them trusted Hermes

[@Gemini-Lion]

To be fair, even if Hermes is decent, he also messes with people via trickery/mischief

[@kia_mia]

Hermes is the best homie

[@idrc1415]

"Hermes gives me a sassy 70s musician" You should watch clips of Troy when he's in character as Hermes 😆

[@ntombincube1360]

fun fact Jorge and Talya Sindel (Voice actor for Circe) are dating!

[@CrazyGamebino]

Which is something that happens between their characters in some of the stories pretty sure they even have a kid

[@Fazman009]

Doesn’t he already have a gf or wife?

[@TheW1ntersProject]

​@@Fazman009 Nope they are dating and they are adorable

[@Fazman009]

@@TheW1ntersProject so the gf in ALL the shorts is actually Circe the whole time!?

[@roaaamr5424]

​@@Fazman009 yeah they met because of epic.

[@Jackie-McCann]

2:45 “A woman.” _“What?”_ That bit never fails to be funny! 🤣

[@Trojianmaru]

"come inside" "dayum" Is always hilarious, like Odysseus is just nodding his head like "oh yeah uh huh, yuuup. That would of worked on me too."

[@StupidScruff-0v0-]

THE WHAT SAGA CONTINUES

[@abthedragon4921]

Brilliant comedic writing lol

[@jesuschristbutafab9923]

"Booby trap? I mean, yeah, I would fall into a trap if I saw boobs." - all of Ody's crew (minus eury)

[@LycanMOON]

@@Trojianmarunah,unless it was Penelope

[@riccardocastiglioni1611]

Hermes tends to be the helpful benefactor in Greek Mythos, either because another god sends him or by his on will. In this case, since Odysseus is his great grandson, you can say that he is helping family.

[@obliviontheshadowgod6204]

Hermes also once dated circe so you can also make a case for him spiteing an Ex hence why she clocks it right away as Hermes giving the molly to Odysseus

[@jackierabbit]

​@@obliviontheshadowgod6204 that's not actually in the mythology

[@obliviontheshadowgod6204]

@@jackierabbit true im pretty sure it's a later addition

[@cbctebasrajeb81]

I feel like the term family isn’t really fitting knowing almost eveyone is related in some way. Like Poseidon would be his great great grand uncle, and Circe would also be related someway due to Helios.

[@Soy_boi]

@@cbctebasrajeb81 I mean they usually care about direct lines, like you never have a Greek god hooking up with their child. Gods usually do help the children and grandchildren of them

[@Igovroomvroomlikeacar]

I love puppeteer because Eurylochus is repeating what Circe's said,meaning he's the one singing the whole thing

[@Gemini-Lion]

That’s not actually how I interpret it for the last chorus. In the last chorus, I do think current Circe is singing and so Ody just can’t hear her side of it.

[@Igovroomvroomlikeacar]

@@Gemini-Lion that's what I was thinking too

[@doot1doo1]

@@Gemini-Lion that's not what they mean lol. it's a current inside joke in the fandom that eurylochus sings the whole thing and he's just unreasonably good at doing an impression of circe, and ody's ''damn'' is just him being impressed lmao

[@ParajuIe]

I'm glad someone reacts to the version by laritamiauu, it is my favorite animatic for the song

[@fateha_]

I have never even seen this one but I can immediately say this one is my absolute favorite now. I'll definitely check the video out and like it after this one

[@elieli2893]

First time seeing that one, and it was amazing, my goodness! :D

[@Synthesyn342]

It is really good! I’ve also never seen it before but it’s going right into my animatic playlist

[@fooplop]

@fateha_ it's a pretty recent animatic too!! assuming that she's reacting to the curated animatic playlist, i'm really happy laritamiauu's animatic was the one chosen to replace the other wouldn't you like animatic :DD

[@coleedgerly5666]

@@fooplopI sent her my currated playlist when she did Troy saga. That's the one she's using. I tried to use a couple of lesser known animatics and I love laritamiauu's so much kzbin.info/aero/PLDtLFTo7J8DvaJQDZ3jdAbipzc66jodQD

[@Kirachan3]

Her lover doesnt get mentioned again, however the other person in her love triangle does show up later. Wont spoil it for you but I will mention it when you get to it. Great reaction as always!

[@Michaellearnsart]

Ahh yes the one Casper fox simps for lol And I think the other one is a minor water god

[@Vanimations_]

9:24 her confusion here is amazing cuz it’s hard to notice the hint in Gigi’s animation when you don’t know what’s gonna happen next

[@JustTheseus]

I love the idea that Ody has just enough magic left that his vision of Penelope is an actual illusion Circe can see

[@icemagiciangh]

These are my recommendations for The Underworld Saga: The Underworld- Falperio05 No Longer You- Ximena Natzel Monster- Gigi Get the tissues ready. To quote Jorge on the saga- “This is where Odysseus goes to get his heart broken! :D”

[@PlutoIsntReal_]

Definetly Gigi for Monster, It gets me in the feels everytime.

[@NoisyBoy153]

I think in the troy saga she mentions that someone picked these out for her

[@chuckkimball1589]

Also, to quote jorge on this saga, - I am the monster, rawr, rawr, rawr

[@coleedgerly5666]

The playlist she's using that I made has all those except I've got the Underworld by TheeArteest instead No Longer You may end up being the Gwendy version as I just switched to Ximena the other day and Idk if she's recorded Underworld yet

[@icemagiciangh]

@@coleedgerly5666 I hope she gets Ximena's. That one made my friend and I appreciate the song even more. The vibes are immaculate. Have you seen Falperio's version of The Underworld?

[@yasminemixon9340]

There was a mistake in there are other ways. He says its been 12 long years but its only been 10 years. Jorge made a video on it and it was so funny when he realized it.

[@Gemini-Lion]

In later songs, it seems like he doubled down on that mistake and was rolling with it. Like, in the Wisdom saga they mention how (after a time jump) it had been 20 years since Ithaca saw him. Even later, they mention that Poseidon meeting Odysseus in Ruthlessness happened 8 years ago at that time.

[@agatha6999]

@@Gemini-Lion I mean what else can he do but double down lol like 12 years literally ruins the entire timeline so why not just fuck with it at this point

[@Gemini-Lion]

@@agatha6999 TL;DR: I was wrong and I was thinking about a since edited lyric. I actually realized after posting my reply that the "8 years" part was a demo part of the song that was edited to "10 years" for the full release after Mr. Jalapeño realized that timeline wise, it was supposed to be 10.

[@PlutoIsntReal_]

In Greek mythology, Hermes is notorious for helping Greek protagonists without asking for anything in return. (He's also Odysseus' grandfather, but this is never brought up in the musical) He's quirky but he's honestly greek mythos' best boi.

[@gamerhalim2486]

TROY DOHERTY BEST SINGER!! HERMES BEST CHAR!

[@lilaculots]

the realization that hermes has an ojousama laugh dealt me psychic damage, i love watching reaction videos (genuine)

[@nicholasmcmahan-watson9405]

He is NOT the best boi. He is a PURE agent of chaos. I am convinced that his entire motivation behind helping Ody is entertainment. His favorite method of entertainment is "what if I gave this mortal who is struggling against the odds a mythological gatling gun so it is less one sided. I bet that would piss the other side off. Lol"

[@PlutoIsntReal_]

@@nicholasmcmahan-watson9405 Exactly, best boi material.

[@farihanaz7227]

Omggg I have so much to say! First yessss Circe is such a GIRLBOSS! I love her and Gigi's design for her is my fav. Second, Laritamiauu's wouldn't you like is such an underrated animatic and I love their depiction of Hermes so much! I'm glad you watched their vid for this. And lastly yup yup yup you've called it "he's a man" and "he loves Penelope" the two things that Odysseus is! Loved your reaction to this! ❤❤❤

[@thesaltybeard1793]

Yup. Ody is a certified wife guy.

[@pocketfullofbees7071]

I don’t think you caught this, but right after Odysseus pulls away in ‘There are Other Ways’ with the “I can’t!”, Penelope’s motif plays in the background (the tune he sings her name to every time)

[@asgarzigel]

Odysseus is the original wife guy we stan a faithful king

[@theinfamoustom]

It's not mentioned in Epic but Hermes is Odys great grandfather.

[@omarsalem1219]

OH MY GOD, YOU A REACTION CHANNEL PICKING UP A NEWER AND A REALLY GREAT ANIMATIC FOR WOULDN'T YOU LIKE THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@percyrios4332]

12:02 fun fact!! If you hear a piano in the background, it means Athena is watching. It's her main instrument in the musical!

[@fabbius0180]

I love that people always doubt Hermes' nature on the song while he even in the myths is basically: Do it for the lulz! :D

[@milliegoodwin5389]

The first thing Hermes ever did was steal the sun God's cows and then pretend he was a clueless baby He's just a chaos gremlin and he knows it

[@robertolanzone]

Well, if we wanna talk Greek mythology, Hermes is the god of trickery and mischief so it's very natural to think he may about to trick Odysseus 😂 but Epic's Hermes is pretty much a nonchalant chaotic popstar lol

[@gloomcat3867]

I swear I've listen Puppeteer a dozen times and the "a woman" and "come inside" bits still crack me up. Well done my dude, well done 😂 ALSO I love Hermes he's sooo fruity and sassy go off Kinggg ❣

[@milliegoodwin5389]

'come inside' 'Damn' 😂

[@b0neless437]

​@@milliegoodwin5389 gets a chuckle out of me every time

[@enigmatic2878]

Every time I listen to it, I always say "damn" after the first one Come inside (Damn) Welcome to the best part of your life (Damn) ... ... ... ... Take a seat (Ensemble damn)

[@222stargazer]

lol, pretty sure the vocalist of Hermes is ACTUALLY Hermes just vibing with Jorge and hanging out for the fun of it

[@dakotaXmae]

“Besides my girl Athena, my pure queen” Medusa would like a word… (I say this light heartedly as someone who loves both Athena and Medusa)

[@joshuafrazier3904]

As a pure Athena Stan I must protect my queen from this heresy and point out that in Greek mythology Medusa is born a monster and it’s in the Roman version of the myth, by someone who purposefully painted the gods in a worse manner than they are,that she is raped and turned to a monster by Athena. If you wanted to do someone who has a right to be mad at Athena do Arachne.

[@dakotaXmae]

@ I have a lot of conflicting feelings after looking this up and seeing that you’re right, she wasn’t depicted that way until a Roman poet basically rewrote an existing monster from what I read on a first search (could still be a pretty big oversimplification, but I hope I’m not too far off). Conflicted mostly because the later origin is one I’ve tried to draw strength from in some really dark moments, but I wish it hadn’t been done in a way that villainizes the gods of a pantheon that the author didn’t worship. I know that there’s a decent amount of overlap and similarities between Roman and Greek mythology, but I definitely haven’t learned enough about it and now have a couple topics to fall down a rabbit hole with! Will definitely be looking up Arachne too, I’ve seen the name and always thought it looked cool, but haven’t ever gotten around to looking into it more thoroughly. Your comment gave me some interesting things to keep my mind busy for a while, so thank you!

[@icemagiciangh]

Fun background information for the design of Hermes, and saga music. The singer for Hermes, Troy (yes, his name really _is_ Troy), made his own outfit for Hermes. He has the full fur coat, the animatic version has, and his own sunglasses. That man is _deep_ in his character. This isn’t the Circe Saga. It’s the Hermes Saga. Jay has livestreams where he releases canon visuals and songs. After Odysseus ate the flower, it said “Odysseus begins to glow. POWER UP!” Done For is a battle between Odysseus’ battle/heavy emotions instrument-electric guitar, and Circe’s instruments- strings. As soon as she goes into her “other ways” Odysseus’ guitar is _gone._ Circe has all the control again. When Odysseus pushes her away, Penelope’s theme and instrument- the viola, start playing. This symbolizes his thought process returning back to why he’s on this journey- to get back home. The “12 long years” is an up in the air thing. Jay may have gotten the years of how long they’ve been away mixed up, so now “12 years” is a meme. XD

[@area52ron]

Fun fact: one of the men (named Elpenor) was not turned into a pig he actually died not by Circe herself but by getting so drunk he fell down and broke his neck no one noticed so they didn’t give him a proper burial Hermes is one of those characters who will do something for you and expect nothing in return except entertainment he’s also Odysseus great grandfather and Circe’s EX Did you notice in the flashback there were *four* nymphs but in the present there are now *three* nymphs *also* Odysseus men were not the reason for that it was another group that came before them I think in the stories for this some of it is debatable whether it was consensual on Odysseus end So here’s something funny: the creator accidentally made a mathematical error it’s actually still been 10 years not 12 years but by the time the creator had this pointed out and he realized it’s true it was already too late Fun fact: when Odysseus voice is high like we see him begging to Circe it’s Odysseus showing vulnerability when there are some strains where he’s trying not to let his vulnerability get to him and sometimes failing

[@maskedace0510]

He fell off the roof, Gigi included it in the animatic at 25:36 . you could see him drinking wine on the roof on the top right of the screen. before he falls and breaks his neck without anyone noticing him. His name was Elpenor

[@area52ron]

@@maskedace0510 that is Gigi’s art though

[@maskedace0510]

@@area52ron I know, that’s why I said they included it

[@area52ron]

@@maskedace0510 okay and sorry if I came off wrong

[@MonarchWingz]

HERMES IS IN THIS SAGA‼️ HERMES IS IN THIS SAGA‼️ HERMES IS IN THIS SAGA‼️ (He is my favorite character😭🤍)

[@HolyMolyOdy]

Fun Fact: Tayla (Circe’s Voice actor/Singer) and Jay/Jorge are actually dating irl! (THEY ARE THE MOST WHOLESOME, AND CUTEST COUPLE I HAVE SEEN…)

[@imolderthanu2]

The VA for Hermes (Troy Doherty) has really leaned in to his role and has a lot of reels acting as Hermes, complete with the shaded sunglasses and attitude

[@reubenproctor9344]

Your epic reactions have quickly become some of my favourite. You manage to pick up on so many themes and are really engaging to watch; you elevate my enjoyment of epic! Thank you!

[@ghostsurfer23]

I think I somehow missed these animatics for Wouldn't You Like and There Are Other Ways, and I look at Epic animatics pretty religiously. Kudos to you, Weeby!

[@wake._up._to._reality]

I love circe so much omgg Talya is legit perfect

[@DParkerNunya]

For the Underworld Saga, I'd really recommend the three animatics from the big playlist by SimonSayzzz. The Underworld- TheeArteest No Longer You- Ximena Natzel Monster- gigi I don't know if they are the 'best' but I think they really hit the mark in delivering the message of the songs through

[@coleedgerly5666]

The playlist she's using that I made has all those on it No Longer You may end up being the Gwendy version as I just switched to Ximena the other day and Idk if she's recorded Underworld yet

[@DParkerNunya]

@coleedgerly5666 Oh! Thanks for the heads up! To be fair, I've seen the Gwendy version, it deserves the love it gets.

[@sammjaisais7135]

8:50 I actually think Ody using his wits proves to be the best course of action since... you know... it kept him and his army of 600 men alive during a 10 year war. That gives his wits plenty of credibility. Any war without losses from one side is an anomaly, but a 10 year war without losing a single man speaks to the leader's capabilities.

[@colt1903]

23:12 I'm about to ruin this shot for you. You'll never unsee it. Penelope has 2 right hands, apparently. 😂

[@lillianastorm6985]

I'm so glad someone else noticed that, it's bothered me for so long, lol

[@player1angel567]

Gigi has this thing where they can't draw the hand's side correctly, in We'll be Fine when Telemachus raises his hand to high-five Athena, when the shot changes to show her, it's the wrong hand in the air

[@sabergreen2010]

Oh boy hope you’re ready for the Underworld saga next.

[@abthedragon4921]

26:28 Trust me girl, no you do not!! XD

[@emerson4140]

Fun fact: What exactly the moly does is it makes Odysseus resistant to Circe’s magic as well as giving him a bit of a power boost. Unfortunately, moly is also temporary (“it’s only for a moment, till you’ve beaten your opponent”) so Odysseus became vulnerable once more at the end of Done For. There Are Other Ways isn’t just Odysseus resisting Circe’s seduction, he’s actively fighting against her literally enchanting voice because - lest we forget - she’s a powerful sorceress! She has the ability to warp/alter someone’s mind. Odysseus going “I’m just a man” while Circe is singing isn’t him making excuses, it’s the narrative driving in the fact that Odysseus is a mortal and Circe is a goddess. Therefore is an inherent power imbalance between them, and it does not favor Odysseus in the slightest. Part of me wishes you had watched Anniflamma’s version of There Are Other Ways, because her animatic very clearly shows how unwilling and uncomfortable Odysseus is throughout the entire song.

[@icemagiciangh]

o7, Elpenor on the roof. Remember the number 43 men that Poseidon mentioned going into the next saga XD

[@evadzh4570]

Hermes is not just the messenger of the gods😭he’s the god of boundaries, roads, travelers, merchants, thieves, athletes, shepherds, commerce, speed, cunning, language, oratory, wit, and messages, he’s one of the olympians and he’s the son of Zeus and Maia. And Apollo’s favourite brother

[@Mellohi_wither]

Psst...you forgot literature:D

[@evadzh4570]

@ Really? Well it does fit in with the “language, oratory, wit and messages” part 😂

[@enigmatic2878]

Isn't he also a god of medicine? Hence why so much modern designs about medicne has his staff? Also, side-job on the underworld lol

[@evadzh4570]

@ Actually no, that’s the Rod of Asclepius, it’s a long standing misunderstanding, Asclepius (son of Apollo) is the god of medicine. And yeah i believe he was a psychopomp (someone whose responsibility is to escort newly deceased souls from Earth to the afterlife)

[@enigmatic2878]

@@evadzh4570 so... asclepius gave hermes the special rod?

[@planetdestroyer1111]

Perfect timing for this to come out. Love your content and love epic. A perfect combo.

[@Heli-draws]

You should react to some of the cut songs too, they're pretty good. There's "This Is The Way", "Perimedes", "Cope With That", "Elpenor" and many others, these are just my personal favorites. (I will note, you should probably react to Cope With That and Elpenor after the Underworld Saga)

[@feldfos]

"Not hermes becoming my favourite character with just one song" - the entire fandom

[@aarsy9935]

Hermes is the god of messengers, thieves and many more! His story is actually hilarious, i suggest you read about it. He had a big role in the odyssey, as he helped Odysseus many times, and guided the dead souls of his men to the underworld. Many think that Hermes helped Odysseus so much because hes his great grandfather!

[@eleonorawitzky5832]

Hermes tends to be the Greek god most likely to help heros just for the sake of it. Hes in it for the vibes

[@Farah-vq5lw]

In the Odyssey Hermes warns Circe about Odysseus, basically he just wants to see chaos and be entertained lol Also Hermes is Odysseus's great grandfather! Also I think he and Circe are exs but this one I'm not 100% sure

[@ive_3101]

circe and hermes did in fact have a casual bed relationship but i dont think they dated bcos they kinda hated each other's guts lmao

[@Farah-vq5lw]

@ive_3101 when I say dating in Greek mythology I mostly mean a fling lol

[@mayhapslynn]

circe and hermes being lovers isn't in any myth, it's purely a creation of the novel circe by madeline miller

[@Farah-vq5lw]

@mayhapslynn I did not know that, thank you

[@mcatalano813]

Woah woah woah, dont be blaming my boy Ody for what happened in Keep Your Friends Close, he warned the crew and they still opened it

[@aadityayanamandra8846]

I think it's fair to say the crew and the winions share the blame lol But objectively, there are also better ways Odysseus could've handled the situation

[@sukong1232]

​@@aadityayanamandra8846 like how

[@matthewbibby8921]

@@aadityayanamandra8846I concur with the other commentor - people are really quick to find ways to blame Odysseus for a lot of stuff that happens in this telling of the story, but personally for the vast majority of it, to me, he seems to be a victim of bad circumstances or bad actors around him. In “Keep your friends close” specifically though, literally what else could he have done? He warns his men about what the bag is doing and why it can’t be opened, then stays away as long as physically possible to protect it and get them home, only to be betrayed by the person he should be able to trust most (and literally JUST talked to about why he needed his support) the moment his guard slipped.

[@sammjaisais7135]

12:08 A few things to point out so far in this song. (Also, sorry for the multiple comments, I just have a lot to say 😭😭😭 love your videos, though) So Hermes is the god of various things, among other things, the patron of travellers and thieves. This is why he has a lute in this song, even though the lute is Apollo's instruments. Apollo and Hermes are brothers, Hermes being the younger sibling, and Hermes has a knack for stealing from Apollo just for the sake of it. Since Hermes is the patron of travellers, he has a habit of just popping up and giving free stuff and help to travellers for no reason and with no strings attached, just because it amuses him. Athena was probably ignoring Ody throughout the Ocean saga, and definitely NOT vibing to Ruthlessness, since she and Poseidon don't have a good relationship. They're kid of rivals and kind of hate each other. Just because I remembered, not because it actually relates to something, always keep in mind, it's Zeus's fault. 8 times out of 10, it's Zeus's fault.

[@yay29823]

Wait, I remember you! You made a few Danganronpa vídeos that I used to watch when I was obsessed with it! And now you're doing Epic?? I gotta catch up with your reactions

[@Vanimations_]

Your videos make me so happy

[@dragonlemur3271]

What happened with Circe's lover is that she loved him, but he was in love with someone else, so Circe did something to her so that he wouldn't love her (and then love Circe instead), but it didn't work. We may or may not see what happened to the woman Circe's lover loved in a few sagas

[@nicknugget9978]

I swear every animatic I've seen, draws Circe so Pretty! 😭❤

[@colt1903]

So in the actual Odyssey, he does have sex with Circe. They actually have a Daughter before he leaves, which yes does in fact mean he and his men were there for at least a year or so. Here in Epic though, since Penelope is so important to who he is as a character, he resists.

[@Megamanlanprime]

Generally it’s noted that he didn’t exactly do it willingly - Hermes said he was required to do so if he or his men would make it out alive so there can be an argument made that he’s loyal in the sense that he’s never willingly done it with someone else besides Penelope

[@idkanymore2.014]

​@@Megamanlanprime he willingly stayed on the island for a year, his crew had to beg him to leave. I wouldn't count that as loyalty, lol. Also side note, don't remember them having a daughter, they did have a son or three is some variations, but those variations aren't really considered "the original"

[@Skull-]

THANK YOU SO SO SO SO SO MUCH FOR SHOWING LARITA LOVE AND WATCHING THEIR WOULDNT YOU LIKE ANIMATIC ITS GENUINELY MY FAVORITE OUT OF ALL THE ANIMATICS OUT THERE!

[@Vanimations_]

Finally I’ve been waiting

[@declangrogan1168]

Fun fact, Jorge(the creator of epic) said that the reason Odyseus said "damn" in puppeteer was cause the other guy (dont remember his name) did an insane circe impression

[@idioticrooster2623]

so fun fact throughout epic the creator brings in family and those he knows to help do characters and circe is done by his girlfirend

[@serendipitish]

She wasn't his girlfriend before Epic - they met because she auditioned for Zeus, and later Circe, and they fell in love during the recording process.

[@MesoJoe]

Surprised you didn't notice that Ody's idea of an ultimate fearsome monster was a cyclops. Heartbreaking

[@-_NIKI_-]

"There a re other ways" always hits hard, in the original myth, Odysseus is sexually abused by Circe so that she free his men and let them go home.

[@matthewbibby8921]

Yeah, im a lot happier with this retelling - or, at least, I think it was handled in a much more digestible way than a CERTAIN character later on. Feels less like Odysseus being forced to do something as much as Circe is just trying to tempt him so she can get the upper hand again, then when it doesn’t work she realises she got the wrong idea about him. So much better than… “Yeah you just gotta bang her” which is just weird for both characters.

[@thegamingbear4307]

I think Odysseus saying hes just a man is also because hes against a goddess and how can he say no to her for this if it means saving his men, he already used the moly but he still needs to convince her to actually change them back

[@akihikosakurai4013]

Hermes is both a god himself and messenger of the gods. He's the god of trade, wealth, trickery, travel, etc

[@Teaxisch]

Something I love is at 22:34 when odysseus says "I can't" the viola that plays is the same melody from when he sings "Penelope" in The Horse and the Infant

[@Laritamiau]

OMG HI I'VE BEEN WATCHING YOUR REACTIONS FOR A WHILE I DIDN'T EXPECT YOU TO REACT TO MY ANIMATIC TY SO MUCH😭😭 Also it's pronounced Lar-eet-tuh meow (i think- idk, english is not my first language😭)you pronounced well the second time haha, and u got the meow part correct it is also because i love cats lmao

[@jmking4943]

Hermes just likes to give mortals ridiculously powerful stuff for the sole purpose of seeing what happens. He's chill like that.

[@BGTitanAvatar]

Puppeteer: I love the call and response in this song between Eury and Circe. It makes for an interesting tone for that’s different from most the others. Gigi’s animatic is also just… so gorgeous. I love their design for Circe. That full 360 shot while swapping between characters? So freakin good. Wouldn’t You Like: A very catchy song, and again something we haven’t quite heard from the musical yet. So the reason Hermes’ design has shaded eyes is because his singer is always wearing shades/sunglasses. At least to my understanding. It also just helps give off that trickster vibe where you’re not really sure what he’s after. Also, Hermes is Ody’s great grandfather. So that’s a fun tidbit. Done For: Dude the flow for this song is so good. I love the approach that Circe and Ody want the same thing, to protect the people they care about: Ody with his men and Circe with her nymphs. There Are Other Ways: Ugh, I absolutely love Gigi’s animatic for this song! I love all the little character details they put in. How Circe undoes and re-ties her hair, how she circles Ody, how the nymphs are weary when they see Ody but relax when Circe assures them it’s okay. The way the color palette changes when she mentions the Underworld, and the animation for the smoke, how it’s all sketchy looking. God, I could gush about this animatic forever. Again, I also just love this Circe design. She’s kind of has a lion motif happening. It’s really neat. The little drawing at the end card with Ody missing his wife and Circe just looking so done. It’s so cute and funny. And then about the song itself, that finally riff Talya Sindel (Circe) just belts out is everything to me. On top of them bringing Puppeteer back in? Someone sedate me. Also just how you hear Penelope’s little motif after Ody breaks free of Circe’s spell, letting you know before he says anything how he was able to resist. He just loves his wife so much and for a second there it almost turns into a venting session for Ody in which Circe is just like “what is happening?” But it’s Ody’s loyalty to his wife and the showing that he’s different than the men Circe has dealt with in the past (the ones that are implied to have taken advantage of- to put it lightly - her and her nymphs) that ultimately changes her mind and why she decides to help. I love this saga so much. My favorite of Act 1 for sure.

[@Pan_Tran_DnDfan]

My personal recommendations for the underworld saga: The Underworld - TheeArteest No longer you - Ximena Natzel Monster - Gigi Love your vids! Great reaction as always, the Circe Saga is so good ^w^

[@kristinolesen3037]

There are other ways is my favorite song in all of epic honestly excited for you to react to the next 4 sagas, and just a hint they get better the farther along you. Also excited to see your reaction to some of my other favs keep up the good work weeby

[@lantern2811]

Another great reaction video. Seeing your reactions to epic is honestly so much fun compared to the others I've seen. Can't wait for the next one!

[@dynstinn]

i have been watching ur reactions and as a friend to a theatre nerd myself and someone who enjoys playing in theatres, ur reaction reminded me so much of her, cant wait for u to get to the vengence saga, her fav is get in the water and i cant wait to see which one is ur's

[@katchii93]

i discovered Epic the musical a while back but never really delved into it until like maybe two days ago. honestly the songs and all the fan work are so good!

[@ThePoetSloth]

Whenever you finally get to No Longer You, turn off the subtitles.. It'll likely contain spoilers for future sagas

[@karma_pup]

I haven't seen that version of Wouldn't You Like before! So that's fun!! And I LOVE how hype you get 'NAUR ODY!!' xD I love your energy

[@rainbowclouds6456]

Some explanation for Hermes: besides being a messenger of the gods he's also the god of thieves patron of travellers god of invention and guides dead souls to the underworld

[@TearsOfLa]

In the source material, Hermes gave Odyssues the Moley, but then went and immediately told circe that Odysseus was coming, which is why she knows that Hermes gave him the Moley. One of my favourite shorts made from done for has Herems peeping n through a window eating popcorn when they show down. Herems is the god of stirring up drama and watching it unfold for his amusement

[@lauraoliveira2372]

Hermes is Grandfather of Anticlea, the mother of Odysseus

[@Ashrider7]

Fun fact: Circe is voiced by jorges (Odysseus) girlfriend

[@jorensaquariums4666]

Even bigger funfact they became a couple after she became circe in the musical so they met trough the musical (also they are the cutest couple🥰)

[@curlybirdy]

ok but the hermes laugh at 18:03 was so accurate 🤣✨⚕️

[@marcom7264]

Hermes is odysseus' great grandpa, so he prolly just wants to help him for that reason

[@vincentpey3929]

Hermes is a friend to heroes in all of greek myth, Hermes and Athena are often seen in the "background" of the depictions of the heroes of greek myth (most commonly seen in vase paintings of the Herakles and Thesseus myths). Hermes might also have taken a liking to Odysseus because Odysseus is his great-grandson.

[@eternalsummer8409]

In Greek myth Hermes is directly related to Odysseus as one of his ansestors, so he sort of helps out as bias, in most myths he helps heroes as more of a messenger from gods who can’t directly interact, but in this situation it’s all him pretty much

[@KroneUSMC2010]

I can't wait for your next one, I just watched your first 3 of these all in the past few hours

[@LordCrag1998]

Hermes just showing up to drop a banger, give the hero a little gift and then dip is honestly so lore accurate lol. Also Jorge always has perfect casting for each character but Hermes is on another level because Troy Doherty just *is* Hermes irl

[@zacharybrisbin3019]

Oh my god, someone who actually follows good reaction ettiquette. Subbed subbed a thousand times subbed!

[@Guildmaster_xero]

VA shoutout time! Circe is voice by Tayla Sindel, who doesn't make her own music, but she does voice act. Hermes is voiced by TROY, who does make his own music that is actually on the same wavelength of how he sings in "Wouldn't You Like."

[@sammjaisais7135]

6:00 for my argument in defense of Ody. He's trying to get home with as many of his men as possible, and he knows his wit might be enough to hatch a plan to save them from Circe, so he weighs his options and he concludes that he should try. And they had no idea how they would get back to Ithaca, so there's that. Also, he is one lucky dumbass. And he's also kind of a prodigy, there's a reason Athena had recruited him. And Eurylochus, again, tries to undermine his decision.

[@Lilpie328]

I’ve been waiting for this reaction, I knew you would LOVE Circe 🤣

[@RayGainbows]

Before the Ocean Saga, Gigi made a "there are other ways" video using an early audio clip for the song. it ended on the "Im just a man. forgive me" and until the real song came out, i also thought Ody was going to give in to temptation. I had the exact same reaction you did. 🤣

[@PoseidonsWinionDaughter26483]

1:06 “hey Eurylochus survived! That’s good!” Is it though?

[@kristinakostic2388]

Don't diss the laugh, it's iconic 😂 Also, Troy, the guy who sings/voice acts for Hermes, is basically possessed by ACTUAL Hermes or might just be him 😂 Check out both his and Jorge's shorts with Hermes. He and Jorge have a lot of fun promoting sagas with the help of "HERMES (and Jay)", a little hilarious series, so I warmly recommend checking that out for funsies. As for Hermes himself, he's actually often very helpful to Greek heroes and is Odysseus' great grandfather! He may be a trickster, but those tricks are mainly aimed at the gods lol The whole situation where Circe turned Odysseus' men into pigs may seem random or preventative here, but in the Odyssey, it was very deserved because they abused her initial hospitality by, you can guess it, acting like pigs. Now, hospitality is a BIG thing in Ancient Greece and there are particular rules around it; breaking those rules could get you in a lot of trouble, even a smiting from Zeus himself since he's the patron of it. In short, if either the host or the guests get wronged, they can demand compensation and Circe is a goddess, the daughter of Helios (as represented in animatics with the yellow glowing eyes), and gods are always so extra with compensation or punishments. But yeah, in the original, it really was very deserved. And Odysseus did sleep with Circe in the Odyssey, Hermes even explictly told him he'd have to if he wanted to save his men and make an ally of her. There's some discorse on how consensual the whole thing was, as well whether Ancient Greeks would even consider it cheating - they wouldn't, btw - but EPIC doesn't adress these topics.

[@DelliGaming]

It makes sense that Circe would have beef with Posideon given what he did to Medusa. Also, at the end of the last song, right when they turn back to men and run out of the palace, there's a drunk guy on the roof. His name is Elpenor and he is the sole casualty on Circe's island.

[@mistman_161]

That animatic for Wouldn't You Like is so good! Is it weird that I love seeing Hermes flirt with his great-grandson? 😅

[@eliaslangerudduffy8928]

Imagine your great grandad descents from the heavens, gives you weed then tells you to go fight the president. There you have "Wouldn't you like"

[@InnoxPC]

hermes is odys grandfather plus hes just chill so no strings attached

[@Spectralyzed]

"It's been a while since we've had a happy ending." ... And surely it'll remain that way for many sagas to come...😬

[@baconboi9499]

I love how everyone who watches this song immediately mistrusts Hermes cuz the only other good god is Athena lol

[@sammjaisais7135]

Gigi's design for Circe is my favourite.

[@TierraAllen-i1b]

Happy Ending: The one man who died in the palace was one of their men (there were four men at the start, see how there are three when she transforms them back...)

[@nyxalex8049]

OMG NO WAY YOU REACTED TO MY FAV WOULDNT YOU LIKE HOLY IVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN A REACTION VID