EPIC THE MUSICAL Reaction - Ep. 63 of Musicals I Know Nothing About

[@djwilson1993]

“The gods are all children, aren’t they, with all of these games all the time.” Just wait for the wisdom saga…

[@Barbara2.0]

More games or less games? 😂

[@starlepus9437]

@@Barbara2.0 you could say...god games

[@duolingoowl920]

@@Barbara2.0just a few god games occur

[@GabrielGonzales1800]

Why not make it a game

[@djwilson1993]

@@GabrielGonzales1800 (synth intensifies)

[@thelasthunt3r]

30:45 Poseidon's argument is that if Odysseus had killed Polyphemus, then he wouldn't had called his father to avenge him

[@DmantosSanint]

Poseidon: "What the hell man? You killed a baby, but you have to make my son suffer!? You arrogant little twat!"

[@mielliot13]

Yeah, if Odysseus killed Polyphemus in a battle and left, he could at least claim that it was self defense. Poseidon would probably still get revenge, but its not at this level of "Stealing from my son, getting him addicted to drugs, crippling him, and letting him know exactly who did it" which is basically a slap in the face to Poseidon's dignity (and then Odysseus tries to get out of the apology/responsibility using his cleverness, which is not really a deciding point, but definitely doesn't help)

[@omarsalem1219]

It's always refreshing to see someone who knows their mythology react to the musical, can't wait for you to react to the rest and see what changes he made for the story

[@Barbara2.0]

I'm so hyped now!

[@UnicornOfRainbows]

The reason the songs with the gods sound so different than the others is because Jorge made it so the gods had more electronic elements while the mortals had only traditional instruments, in order to make them feel otherworldly.

[@Barbara2.0]

Such a great idea!

[@SunLovinSolaire]

26:50 A second in command can NOT question their Commanding Officer in front of the men. If the men have seeds of doubt planted in them when things aren’t in dire straits, those seeds will flourish and cause panic when things DO get bad. Odysseus was completely in the right for calling out Eurylochus there, any doubts his second has must be shared in private.

[@TiradeBombastic]

Plus, Odysseus is his KING.

[@bunnyjaeger3068]

YES

[@islasullivan3463]

Yes but Ody should have told him hey if you have doubts talk to me privately not in front of the crew instead of basically saying always follow my lead and don’t question my risky decisions ever.

[@starrmendez9177]

⁠@@islasullivan3463he learned from Athena follow what i say and never question me or I’ll say goodbye

[@jazzr7817]

It's hard to say because we only have these snippets of their journey but I would say that part of the reason Ody was so short and snippy with Eurylocus in their private aside was because Eury questioned his authority in front of the men. There's a good chance that had Eury pulled him aside in the first place, Ody wouldn't have been so harsh. But that's just my thought, lol.

[@SunLovinSolaire]

I’m surprised no one’s pointed out the rules for the Backing Track. When mortals have a Backing Track, it’s because their backup is actually there in the scene (Odysseus’ backup is usually his crew). Divine beings, meanwhile, can summon their Backing Track from the ether.

[@somethingthatexists4797]

Backing track like the backup vocals?

[@WesleiOliveira628]

Honestly the idea of having three sagas in each video would be kinda good, since they are nine in total. (Only eight have been released, the last one is probably coming on Christmas), so there is enough time for you to do a Circe/Underworld/Thunder sagas in the next one and then listen to the last three in a single video.

[@lydiavalentino]

That three-part structure also works given the time skip between Thunder and Wisdom.

[@ArianneJoy]

A little fun fact: the creator Jorge has a specific instrument for each different character as well as a few running motifs! He also said that he used my techno instruments for the gods as a way to distinguish them further!

[@logicaldreamer9641]

Athena has an ability called "Quick Thought," which allows her to influence/speak to people in seconds. The first time we see this is in Warrior of the Mind. When Ody starts to lean more towards Polities's "Open Arms" philosophy, she comes in to remind him that it's not the best course. She was warning him, so thats why it was placed where it was. Jorge uses many recurring motifs in most of the songs, so if they ever sound similar, it's because they are. His writing is so good because each character is given an "instrument" (Ody Guitar, Athena Piano, Posideon Trumpets, etc.), so usually, if you hear them, it means a character is present, or if you hear a motif, it's a parallel or connected to other events in other songs.

[@erick48104]

"Must he remind us, in every single song, that Penelope is waiting?" - That man ONLY talks about Penelope 😂 Discovered you for Epic but I'm already checking the rest, you are so charismatic. Please!! React to the rest of sagas.

[@Barbara2.0]

Thank you, lovely! And welcome to the channel!!! 🥰

[@marianoflibrarian2401]

I’m so excited for you to hear Circe and Calypso, talk about BANGERS

[@Barbara2.0]

Oh my God, I love Calypso as a character 😍 Can't wait to check that out!

[@KofKnMsShadowWing]

I'm looking forward to more of you reacting to the rest of this

[@unclewiley1986]

​@@Barbara2.0 I'm going to hold your hand when I tell you this😔

[@bobbysyblik68]

Jorge Rivera Herrans (the creator of Epic who voices Odysseus) Does livestreams of the entire musical whenever he releases a new saga (or group of songs) and for the past two releases (Wisdom and Vengence Sagas) he has left the livestreams up and you should watch these because he includes animatics from creators in the community and it makes everything that much more epic (pun fully intended)

[@Beny763]

It´s very interesting to see someone react solely to the music. It´s great how the music alone can portray the story, but if you are interested, there are a TON of animatics made by fans for all the songs.

[@Call_Me_Gi]

So, Jorge, the one who's writing the musical, did actually say how he'd try to envision it on stage! What he was thinking was something along the lines of Circue du Soleil(?). So, even the staging and effects would be proportional to the drama/fantasy of the music!

[@Barbara2.0]

Ooooh I see the vision

[@Dark_Wolf_846]

The point Posidon is trying to make in ruthlessness is that he literally has hundreds if not thousands of kids out there. If one died, he wouldn't know, and even if he did know, he wouldn't know who did it. But with Odysseus leaving the cyclops alive and then telling him his entire name and address, the cyclops was able to cry to his daddy, forcing Poseidon to have to take revenge out of fear of looking weak. Poseidon literally tells him, "You totally could've avoided all this had you just killed my son, but no." Athena was 100% correct, if he killed the cyclops they would've made it home no problem.

[@patchworkgolem]

I think the animatics that the community has made (which would be cool to see you react to) really demonstrate that the best adaptation would be an animated musical ❤❤

[@CaptainAvenger15]

Okay, I'm going to try to not make this an essay, but it we go: 1. Not only do characters have specific motifs and melodies, but each character has a unique instrument that accompanies them throughout the show. Odysseus has an electric and acoustic guitar, Athena has a piano and ticking noises from a clock, Penelope has a viola, Zeus has an electric base, and so on. 2. Jorge Riviera-Herrans (the guy who made the musical and is Odysseus) took heavy inspiration from video games and anime when it came to the presentation of the musical. Polyphemus, for example, is meant to be a boss battle of sorts. This explains why the show can at times feel very cinematic and video game esc. 3. Since this is only a concept album, no official footage of the show exists. But there are two solutions to this. Firstly, Jorge has some live streams on his YT channel of when he released some of the sagas that include stage directions, lyrics, and animations from members of the epic community. The second option is to just Animatics made by Epic fans on YT, they may not represent exactly what Jorge had in mind for what he wanted in the show, but they help give some necessary visuals to make the story easier to understand. 4. PLEASE CONTINUE TO REACT TO EPIC IT'S SO GOOOOOOOODDDD!!!!!

[@jordanNCM]

"Music is so up my street I think I live here now" is going to live rent free in my head! Also, welcome to the neighborhood! We've all pack bonded through trauma 🎉😅

[@Barbara2.0]

Loooool thank you...? 😂

[@federicosamsa]

Agree with you on the abrupt changes in genres, also because every song wants to stand on its own and not necessarily be an interlude between different moods and genres; so it comes off pretty butchered sometimes. However, the different changes actually dialogue between each other in an efficient way as the musical goes on, in my opinion. You should also know that this is a work in progress and at the moment there's one saga left to be released, probably in next year's spring time. At last, on Jorge Rivera-Herrans' youtube channel there are livestreams which contain all the sagas released up until now, with stage instructions on screen, if not actual animation, to show what's happening beyond the lyrics. To say he meant his public to know more stuff about what's going on, which in some cases makes more clear some ambiguous passages in the songs.

[@serenac.7192]

I'm sure you've noticed, but within EPIC there are MANY, MANY mini reprises. It's something Jorge (the creator) likes to use to create motifs and meaning! I also noticed you pointed out the guitar. That is Odysseus' instrument! When he's being cunning, it's an electric guitar, and when there's a more emotional moment, an acoustic guitar is used. Every important character in EPIC has their own instrument. Some other examples are Athena with the piano, Aolus with the flute, Poseidon with the trumpet. Eurylochus is a special exception, where his 'instrument' is the voices of the crew :) Another thing you noticed is that many songs give off a very video-gamey vibe. Jorge takes a lot of inspiration from video games and anime when making his music! It's true that some of the lyrics are not the best, though 😅 Jorge is a musical composer more than a lyricist. But I find it easy to overlook it because the music is so good!

[@Barbara2.0]

Have to agree about the music. I had to immediately have a second listen because I was enjoying the music too much to pay attention to the lyrics sometimes xD

[@rebazyoutube]

I've greatly enjoyed your commentary. I would love if you reacted to the rest of it!!! Please note we're still waiting for the last saga, so it might be best to do another trio of sagas (Circe, Underworld, and Thunder), branching into the start of the second act, and then you could finish out with the last 3 once the last saga is released. With Poseidon's argument, I want to draw your attention to these lyrics "you reveal your name and then let him live"-- Poseidon wouldn't have known who to take revenge on if Odysseus hadn't doxxed himself.

[@MasterZeus94]

WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE, WINIONS! FULL SPEED AHEAD!

[@SayukiSuzukiMizuno]

FULL PANCAKES AHEAD!

[@hrafnknutsson2859]

30:45 no, Poseidon would not have known it was him had he not told the cyclops his name and let him live. He could not have came after him like he says in the song had he just killed him. Hence why he says ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves.

[@MammalianCreature]

The part after that where Poseidon says "you reveal your name, then you let him live, unlike you I've got no mercy left to give" was talked over by this KZbinr. It makes sense they misunderstand the motives, because they spoke over it and probably didn't have lyrics on screen.

[@Barbara2.0]

Ok, I feel like I'm missing something major here... Isn't the whole point of that myth Odysseus tricking Polyphemus in thinking his name is nobody, that way the cyclops won't know who he is?

[@xanecho]

​@Barbara2.0 so I'm new to Epic too so I don't know if it's different there, but I'm pretty sure in the Odyssey he does say his name is Nobody, but then he calls back his real name as he's escaping

[@WesleiOliveira628]

@@Barbara2.0 Yes, but right by the end he just straight up says "I'm the infamous... Odysseus." And then Polyphemus tells his dad.

[@WesleiOliveira628]

@@Barbara2.0 This also why Athena was really pissed in the end of Remember Them/Beginning of My Goodbye. Odysseus basically doxxed himself

[@catsama2667]

I know that others have mentioned that Jorge (the creator and the singer for Odysseus) has used different instruments and motifs for characters, but he's also explained that for mortals the background vocals are real voices of those around (ie for Eurylocus his "instrument" is the crew), whereas the gods can summon choirs magically for their background vocals

[@AG_KEMPER]

REACT TO THE REST, PLS AND THANK YOU Edit: I think that the only way for something like this to work on stage would be staging it in an amphitheater (Red Rocks in Colorado or Tuacahn in Utah come to mind). I've seen pro-shots of such productions, and the sheer scale of the venues justify going all out for set design. As for the cyclops, I could see them going minimalist and only using arms and an eye to portray it. That way, the true scale of the creature is left up to the audience's imaginations and it won't completely blow the budget.

[@therwbyfamilton8023]

Maybe could be a Cirque show, the use of water stage from O, The Ship Mechanic from KÁ, and acrobatics and props from Mystère could work

[@federicosamsa]

When I only listen to it, I don't envision it very differently from Hamilton conceptually: a few props, insane choreographies, expressionistic lightning design, and let the imagination flow. At least to start, it would work

[@unclewiley1986]

Or an eye and a club with the fight being shadow work.

[@Na0k1_757]

Fun facts and rules for the musical; The ensemble is always represented by physical people, like the crew joining in with Odysseus in Full Speed Ahead. Gods (and some of higher power, like a witch), on the other hand, can break this rule and create their own back up vocals (unless stated otherwise) Characters are also represented by their own instruments like a guitar for Ody or a piano for Athena

[@kyrabergen3553]

oh my gosh, PLEASE react to the rest!! I'm sure you're going to love it! I recommend watching the livestream for the canon animatics, they provide visual context that in some cases is pretty crucial to understanding what's going on.

[@nicco7518]

A part of the point of Warrior of the mind is how there's a subtle hint that Athena ends up growing closer with Odysseus. It's how she sings "mind" in "warrior of the mind", at first she sings it straightforward, then Ody comes in with the riff/alteration, and the third/last time Athena has adopted the way of singing. Good thing you love the piano, because that's the "signature" instrument for Athena. Ody's instrument is the guitar. Jogre, the guy who wrote the entire thing absolutely *loves* using the music and motifs as part of the storytelling and leaving little hints.

[@nicco7518]

Which I see you already picked up on a bit with "Survive", he loves bringing established segements back into later songs. And at the end of "My Goodbye" you can hear Athena staring out by using the riff she picked up from Ody in Warrior of the Mind, and going to just singing it straightforward, because she's distancing herself from him. (Which has been confirmed by someone already pointing it out, and Mr Jorge reacting to that video being absolutely thrilled that someone noticed that)

[@nicco7518]

And in regards to the choirs: if mortals are the once singing, the back-up singers are the other humans around. When gods are involved though they're the ones summoning the vocals for themselves. Like Athena adding extra flare to Ody singing her praises (some truth to the vane comment from Ody), or Poseidon in Ruthlessness...

[@30092nana]

2:56 It is, but it’s also encouraged to watch the live stream Jorge (the creator) does cause he adds little details and commissioned animatics. The livestreams consist of every saga from the creator himself. It’s very good

[@laternerds7722]

for act one, you can usually just listen to the music and be able to follow along with the plot pretty easily, but once you get to act two I would highly recommend watching some fan-made animatics along with it because unless you're REALLY analyzing the music, it can be difficult to tell exactly what's going on and you might miss out on some mildly important story elements. most fan-made animatics are based on what the creator has confirmed as canon, so they're generally a pretty reliable source of information. just a suggestion!

[@lydiavalentino]

Been waiting for this one!! We got another winion! Structure note: The Underworld Saga is the end of Act 1

[@licilicky]

I'm so glad to finally see someone react to EPIC with actual criticisms while still enjoying it while ALSO knowing their Greek mythology. I love Epic but it's *far* from perfect which should be expected, considering this is the creator's second musical ever, but so many reactors tend to ignore the flaws in the lyrics especially. There are a few lyrics here and there that feel like are just too simple or are missing just a little extra kick. The composition does make up for a lot of it, especially once you start to recognize motifs, each character's signature instrument, and the other in-world rules that the creator sticks to to tell EPIC's story through the music.

[@TwixterQueen3]

You should also react to the animatics that people have made! It gives it a more real idea

[@nudgificator]

Prepare yourself for numerous (hopefully spoiler free) lore infodumps from fans!

[@Barbara2.0]

Bring it on!!

[@Phasmania]

It will never cease to amaze me how consistently Epic can produce absolute earworm top notch bangers. Love what Jorge has done with the story too it’s just so so great

[@agent941]

poseidons voice does something to all of us. so does zuses, when u get to his songs i stead of justthe short bit in just a man

[@alleria2266]

YES FINALLYYYY!! I hope you consider reacting to the extremely well-loved fandom animatics (some of which were even commissioned by the creator)!!!

[@imtryingokay01]

Absolutely loved the reaction!! You definitely need to react to all of the other sagas because they definitely only get better, and the latest 2 released sagas are my absolute favourites 🥰🥰

[@imtryingokay01]

The way I clicked so fast when I got this notification!!! Can't wait to see what you think about my absolute favorite musical omg

[@Barbara2.0]

No pressure hahahaha

[@imtryingokay01]

@Barbara2.0 I loved all of your thoughts and insights and I'm so glad you're enjoying it 🥰🥰🥰

[@Xiliciia]

This was such a fun reaction. Love hearing thoughts from someone who knows the source material so well. I will also second the suggestion of listening to the livestreams so you can get a better idea of what is going on for some of the later sagas! Its a ride!

[@Luka0420]

Yesss yes I would love to see your reactions to the rest of it especially with you having read the Odyssey and being able to critically analyze the changes versus accuracy!😌☺️

[@kaiserdragon7233]

12:38 i recommend seeing the animatics both the community and the original creator made for the series. It'll help you alot XD

[@supermegafoxyawesomehot2042]

Honestly to me, this is a musical that needs to be in movie form like an animated movie, where we can have the insane battle fully on display! Also you need to react to the rest of the sagas! My favorite saga is the Circe saga, which is the one directly after this!

[@milksoda-n1u]

PLEASE PLEASE PELASE REACT TO THE REST~~ lol!! ik people would recommend checking out animatics but i think listening to it audio only is also great for a first reaction since you already know the story of the odyssey you can piece together what's happening for the most part. Also i think listening audio only makes you appreciate the sound design/production of the musical more imo! when i first listened to the troy and cyclops saga (the first releases) I had such a immersive experience listening to it on Spotify.

[@liminalpsych]

Agreeeeed. With the exception of Wisdom and Vengeance sagas, as those are a bit confusing without some visual notes.

[@somethingthatexists4797]

Omg I love your reactions and especially several insights that I feel like I’ve seen from other channels before. I feel like a lot of reaction channels just say meaningless compliments for views

[@mariareynolds8855]

Ooh I have been waiting for this one!! Have some fun facts which I’m sure someone has already pointed out The singer voicing Ody (Jorge Rivera-Herrans) is actually the writer for the whole musical! The concept album is actually still being released at the moment- the Vengence saga (which is the penultimate saga) was just released this Halloween! As far as I’m aware there’s no release date for the final saga currently, though I think general speculation is it will be out around Christmas given the timeline so far! You mentioned Athena’s piano, but every character in the show also has a signature instrument! Athena has piano because of the skill and dexterity it takes to play, Ody has guitars, with the type of guitar changing depending on his mood and situation, Poseidon has trumpets because of the convention of trumpets heralding a divine. Eurylochus’s instrument is actually the choir of men- since he’s the voice of the men on the ship! It doesn’t seem to be a strict rule, but modern/electric instrumentals are generally reserved for gods and monsters, which would explain what you said about the sudden vibe change with Athena On that note- if human characters in the story have backing vocals, those have to come from other characters in the scene- chiefly the men, though in later sagas we do get some alternatives. If a god has backing vocals, that’s just them summoning their own chorus to hype them up. So, Poseidon’s dramatic entrance came along with him literally summoning an invisible choir to announce him.

[@HalElsen]

I fully support going through the rest of the sagas, and someone else's suggestion of 3 for each video is a great idea so you can get the last three all in one when the final saga releases. I also encourage you to check out Jorge's livestreams of the newest saga release once you're caught up, because it provides more of the story told via the script describing character's actions or emotions, as well as animatics of some scenes throughout the sagas. There are some incredible artists who started as fans of his music that he's commissioned to make the animatics for his concept album as if it were scenes for an animated movie!

[@MidnightNautil1]

Heck yes!! So excited for you to hear this music - I actually also just binged EPIC too so this is fun If I can ask about another musical for you to cover, I’d really love for you to react to Pulp Musicals - it’s a sci-fi musical series done in the style of a radio serial, and it stars and is created by a lot of Starkid folks! (Matt Dahan, Mariah Rose Faith, James Tolbert, Curt Mega, Jaime Lynn Beatty, etc.) And it would make my day for more people to check it out! Thank you

[@lizlilliman3644]

You so need to react to the whole of epic. We are almost at the end prediction is last saga release either xmas or new year gulp. I started listening and following epic a year ago as i went to musicalcon and had broadway fm on the way home and they played watrior of the mind. It was then in my playlist from amazon of songs you may like. Found out it was from epic and watched the animatics to the point they where at then. When jorge (the composor and Odysseus) releases them he does a Livestream watch party with some small bits of animatics that he comissions. Yes it stays pretty faithful to the Odyssey with some small changes. The happy boy open arms is polities who is goven a bigger part of being Odysseus best friend , he is also the 1st man he loses by the cyclops. Jorge plans would be a full stage show it will be sung through if 40 songs i think. The underworld is the end if act one and an animated film.

[@zoharamitai8719]

23:53 BEST SONG HAS ARRIVED. seriously the fandom sleeps on this song so hard. Its in 7/8 beat! And it SOUNDS THIS GOOD!

[@DnDAddictUK]

With the amount you loved Storm for the choir, I cannot wait to see you react to The Underworld Saga, and some of the later ones as well. I would love for you to go back and watch some of the animatics for the songs, they really help tell the story. But knowing the story of the Odyssey helps you follow the story anyway

[@licilicky]

Some things that might help you get a better handle on EPIC's music are these: - Every major character has a signature instrument or two that represents them: Odysseus is represented by a nylon guitar when he's more emotional and softer (see Just a Man) and represented by an electric guitar when he's in his scheming, general, warrior mode (see Survive and Remember Them). Athena is represented by the Piano. Polites (who was the first guy to get smushed by the cyclop) is represented by the Kalimba. Eurylochus doesn't have an instrument but instead he's represented by the backing choir of the men since his role in Epic is "the voice of the crew". - Humans have traditional non-electronic instruments when they sing and gods, monsters, anything supernatural gets to use more electronic instruments. Odysseus is the exception to this with his electronic guitar since he's "neither man nor mythicaaaaal". - When a choir backs a human, they MUST be diegetic and have an actual source. Gods, on the other hand, are able to make their own backing vocals. Hopefully, knowing this stuff makes listening to EPIC a little easier and funner!

[@marabanara]

Remember that Odysseus did shout his name at the Cyclops at the end. I love your reactions and videos, I basically found you just after I found starkid. I’ve followed Jorge on TikTok since the very beginnings of his videos on Epic, though I had not checked in for about a year- so imagine my utter surprise when a few days ago I discovered almost all the sagas are out! And now, I see this from you!! Loved your commentary. You picked up on soooo much. The commenters here forget that us fans have been seeing all the details as Jorge has composed and changed and released tracks. Given you listened to this without prior exposure, you picked up on the most important aspects. I will also say there is some behind the scenes tea to sip when you’re ready, if that’s up your alley. Love your stuff as usual, glad you found it as epic as us fans!!

[@SlapHappyPants]

another fun fact for you, the characters all have signature instruments! You already called out Odysseus' guitar

[@katiefox3259]

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!! Please react to the rest! Although, on the off chance no one has said this yet, keep in mind the concept album is not finished yet. We still have one more saga (five more songs) that hasn’t been released yet. But we are expecting that last saga before the end of the year.

[@ReelPodcasts]

Every single character has their own instrument that gives them their own motifs.

[@nicco7518]

Given the topic, when you said "How faithful or unfaithful" my brain immediately went "On a sliding scale from Hades to Zeus"

[@gemmanunn]

It's important to note the way in which this musical is being released, it has been released in sagas with only one more remaining so when you say the placement of Warrior of the Mind may have broken the suspense a bit that's true, however that is the last song in the first saga and the cyclops saga was not released until over a month after

[@Barbara2.0]

Good point tbf

[@chrisdowney427]

Absolutely adore this musical and would love to see you react to the rest! The creator Jorge Rivera-Herrans has said he’d love to make a live adaptation of Epic, but more of its own thing like Cirque du Sole than a production on Broadway cuz he doubts he’d be able to do all the practical effects he wants to do. He’d also love to make it an animated film or even make an accompanying video game

[@TheNitpickChick]

Please react to the rest! 😁🙏 The Vengeance Saga just released recently on Halloween, and we’re still waiting for the final saga, the Ithica Saga, to drop. If you continue on with 3 sagas per video, that should work out perfectly once the last Saga drops! 😊

[@eesmareed]

I love that you're listening to the audio! I think it's great for a first immersion since you can focus more attentively on the music. I hope you enjoy the rest of the musical as well!

[@SUPERNOVACOLLECTIVE]

Fun fact! Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves is the basis for the cleric im currently playing in my dnd campaign

[@SrHokei]

PLEASE PLEASE PELASE REACT TO THE REST :) Some fun facts that I think will enhance your experience (sorry for my english, I'm still learning) 1 - Each main character has one or two different instruments that reflects them, for example: Athena's is the piano (you got that one), Aeolus' is the flute (a wind instrument for the god of winds), Odysseus' is between the nylon guitar and the eletric guitar depending on the situation, Penelope's is the viola, Eurylochus has the crew as an instrument. You can hear the Poseidon's brass/trumpets in the firs song of the Ocean Saga, telling you that he sent the Storm 2 - The gods' songs sound more electronic, more modern than the others, to represent their power 3 - When a mortal has an ensemble, it needs to be inserted within the musical (be diegetic), for example Odysseus' soldiers singing along with him in Just a Man, when he is about to drop the baby. Gods and imortals can conjure an ensemble whenever they want, for example Athena bringing the Just a Man theme back in My Goodbye. But it can be included in the scene too, like the Laestrygonians singing "Poseidon" at the beginning of Ruthlessness (and helping him destroy the fleet) 4 - Athena can use an ability called "Quick Thought" where she can have an entire conversation with someone in a split second. She uses this in Remember Them, to try to advise Odysseus, who doesn't listen to her. Warrior of the Mind is entirely a Quick Thought in which she tries to get out of his head the idea that Polites just tried to put into him the idea of ​​"Greet the world with open arms". It's starts with the whoosh-whoosh-whoosh and the tick tock of the clock

[@Nicole-zk6rw]

30:51 “he’s voice is making me feel things” ohhh just you wait!

[@backpack_hermit25]

The animatics for epic the musical are SO good.

[@Politesbrokenglasses]

OMG CAN'T WAIT FOR U TO SEE THE NEXT SAGASS!! Also idk if someone said this already but Jorge's inspo in some scenes in the musical is very Anime videogame heavy, just a heads up for the next few songs in the future❤❤

[@zacharyjones1933]

ABSOLUTELY KEEP GOING ITS ALL SO GOOD

[@l30nard03]

Your reaction was great can't wait for the rest!

[@Macabrellian]

YEAHHHH, FINALLY! I've been waiting to see you cover this one!

[@HappySleepyCat]

So exited to see your reaction!!

[@Chromaggia]

Omg yay!! I’ve been so curious to hear your thoughts on this. Everyone’s pretty much already said everything I had to say regarding the instruments/motifs/“did you knows”/etc so I don’t have much to contribute to the conversation. I will add on to the pile though to saying you should definitely check out some of the animatics the community has made! There are some insanely talented artists in the fandom and their work really adds to the experience of Epic. I literally just put together a playlist of my favorites in order, but the playlists by Michaela Lewis and Simonsayzz are amazing and probably the most definitive. Maybe you could listen to the audio first and go through the animatics after if you want to start by focusing on the music itself? I’m so excited for you to get to the Circe and Underworld Sagas, they are my absolute favorites!

[@ShyyGaladriel]

Welcome to the Epic the Musical fandom where the fans are called Winions and you never really know who you can trust.

[@KyleAllen001]

Please do the rest! Not just for us, but for you!

[@sarcasticwanderer1148]

Why didn't i think of recommending this to you. But I'm so glad someone has 🥳🥳🥳

[@SlapHappyPants]

I would LOVE to see you react to the rest! Its cool to see someone who knows the myth react to it! Because EPIC is such a full audio musical I tend to rec watching animatics along with the songs (esp for later ones that narrate less in lyrics), but doing blind is fun too. If you ever wanna react to animatics I have a playlist on my channel (its the only thing there) of mostly the most popular ones in order! Edit: Also I hadn't seen it mentioned, but a fun fact is that all the lyric background vocals are diegetic. If you hear the voices in the background then it means the crew is singing or other background characters. UNLESS it's a God/divine singing. They have the powers to summon choirs whenever they want

[@MmelancholyDaze]

Yessss pls pls pls listen to the rest!! The biggest plot points are the same but Jorge has taken plenty of creative liberties with the order of events and some of the motivations. I also highly recommend watching the animatics if u get a chance, Jorge has commissioned a ton for his live listening parties and they're amazing ❤

[@Grimmy1060]

You should definitely watch animatics for epic the musical they give more context and they're pretty well done, for example the fact that Polythemus kills Polites first

[@nacho_girl]

You dropped this as I was mid showing my friend Epic (we were at Storm at the time)

[@ClearlyInsane100]

I love your analysis and its interesting seeing your reaction to just the audio. Its great and you have some unique insights! Please listen to the rest - would enjoy hearing your thoughts.

[@ЗлатаМельник-ч3в]

Your excitement added another layer of excitement to my obsession

[@somethingthatexists4797]

I mean a lot of listeners were quite frustrated with Odysseus for doxxing himself too so Athena’s reaction was understandable

[@fuyumilockheart8242]

If you would like a more immersive experience, I suggest watching the stream vod to Epic the musical. They have visuals as well as subtitle for actions that happens in in the story that might be more obscure with JUST the audio. Also, some of the songs get little to MOSTLY animations for them. Over all, just helps the immersion and confusion to where the audio wouldn't be enough.

[@joshlamont]

Ahahaha, I can't wait to see your reaction to the Thunder and the Vengeance Sagas! (The others are great, too, but those are going to be *great* )

[@dianakhan7182]

Welcome to Epicness :D can't wait to see the second part. And the next :)

[@aryav25]

1) Watch the animatics, there's so much in there 2) about the backup singers, so when mortals need backup singers they can only have others around them be the ones, eg, for odysseus, his backup singers would be the crew and all but gods are not restrained by these and they can summon backup singers whenever and where ever they want 3) every character has their own instrument, like Ody has guitar, Athena has piano, Penelope has the viola etc

[@karinavivas6835]

Loved your reactions❤❤❤❤ please continue with the sagas

[@liminalpsych]

Yesss do the rest please! This was a joy to watch, your comparison with the source material and understanding of effective adjustments for adaptation purposes adds so much to the experience. (Also finally, someone else who has a “??” moment with some of the lyrics xD Jay’s an incredible composer but his lyrics can be a little inconsistent at times. Usually still very solid! With some gems of lines, and then also some… weaker phrasing.)

[@nudgificator]

I agree, there's certainly the odd moment that feels a little clunky in order to get to a rhyme (thinking 'to greet it was our choice' off the top of my head)

[@liminalpsych]

@nudgificator it’s most obvious in earlier drafts of songs and cut songs - some of those are paaainful lyrics while still being musically very good - so the rigorous extensive revisions clearly make a huge difference, but it’s not his strength. ….still significantly stronger than his choreography though. (“The baby floats into Odysseus’ arms” really????) (TE/MO aka Teagan Earley aka Athena in EPIC on the other hand-a poet who started writing music eventually. Holy crap the lyrics of her independent music)

[@J.D.onthego]

You can watch the animatics and it helps a lot to understand the plot if you get a good playlist.

[@Leo-kz2bb]

Best part, every song has an animatic to go with it!

[@dragonwatch2907]

100% you should listen/watch the whole musical there are some really good animations people have made. Theres so many amazing singers in this musical

[@chrismedcare9126]

How dare youtube hide this from me for 22 minutes

[@Barbara2.0]

🤣

[@AnaBeatriz-dl7iy]

"pleaaaseee pleaaaase pleaseeee react to the rest... tanananan"!!!

[@Barbara2.0]

I'll do it just because you added the "tanananan" to your comment. What a trooper! Hahahaha ❤️

[@emaginenations]

I'd love for you to react to the rest; I'd personally recommend reacting without the animatics first, just because I'm really interested what you can get just from the music :D

[@ravenstar577]

Same!

[@zayne8331]

This fandom is huge, welcome ^^

[@Barbara2.0]

Thank you 🙏 Thrilled to join 😁

[@zayne8331]

@ If I may make a suggestion, this fandom is so big that there animatics for every song. Jorge, the creator of this musical, even commissioned some of them. If you want a visual to go with these songs then I’d suggest watching the animatics. There are playlists with all the animatics in order. Of course it’s just a suggestion, do as you please. ^^

[@invitedperson7756]

It's just a matter of time we have all the reaction channel. Winions continue the collection !!!!!

[@joshua7866]

plz do keep watching, tho the artist isn't done, there is one saga not released yet

[@chadthunder8188]

I've been waiting for this for so long.

[@JB.Junebug]

This brought me to the channel. Id love to see you react to the other sagas.

[@Barbara2.0]

Happy to have you here! ☺️

[@mamaymay8259]

Pleaseeeeeee, pleaseeeeee, pleaseeeee listen to the rest of the songs!!! (As requested) In my opinion, the best sagas are yet to come. Also, there's a lot of animatics for all these songs, some of which can be considered "canon" because they were made in collaboration with the creator of the music. Would warmly suggest you to watch those animatics instead of just listening, it'll make a lot of things even better, especially in the wisdom saga!

[@Vreasque]

Would love to see you react to the whole musical. I enjoyed your commentary and reaction more than a lot of others :)

[@Barbara2.0]

That's so kind, thank you!