Good or bad news? - the Old Course at St Andrews / Off the beaten track ep 23

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[@Implant01]

83! Well done to you Andy. The look on Lewis' face when you dumped that pie onto your plate was priceless.😅

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Yeah made me laugh watching back

[@nbleafer]

​@TheAverageGolfer yes Andy I fear you broke some old & ancient tradition!😮 Loved the video and hold that course in the same feeling as Augusta National. Special places indeed.❤

[@philwinstanley7899]

Brings back some wonderful memories. Played the Old course with my son last February and we were luckier than you with the weather. What a magical place St Andrews is.

[@lisaparker7949]

My husband has played twice there and still has a grin from ear to ear. Hoping for next year as well. It brings back lovely memories of the 150th open, when we were privileged to be there for 2 days and see a fellow Aussie win!

[@Marcus.L-3]

11:24 the expression that gets us back playing golf every time. Well played!

[@glensato1713]

What a great episode, Andy. Watching you and Lewis enjoy St Andrews reminded me of playing the Old Course 20 years ago. If feels like just yesterday. I did enjoy you both feasting on a delicious pie after the round. I have to say, I have never seen anyone dump the pie onto a plate, then eat it. Perhaps that might make it easier to enjoy. Take care.. and see you next week.

[@tonykelly6699]

By far the best video you have done. And probably the most enjoyable I have seen this year. Thank you so much for giving us the raw, unpolished footage of the journey that all of us would love to take some time. It felt very real and relatable to me. Fabulous! Inspirational to go into the ballot next time I’m in Britain .

[@TheAverageGolfer]

I am glad you enjoyed it was the best we could do without ruining the day

[@waynecooper9728]

Great seeing you play the old course Andy. My first time ever in March. I loved it as I hope you did. I get emotional thinking about playing about soon . Keep up the good work great seeing Lewis on the channel. I shot 84 off an 11 handicap . Loved it

[@dhurley6985]

Wonderful video, well played sir! 83 in those conditions is a fine effort. Brings back memories of our trip to Scotland last May. We had just finished a hike up Mither Tap in Aberdeenshire (after our first round at Murcar Links), and upon returning to our van checked the ballot results - and bingo! Success! A surreal feeling to know we were actually going to play the Old Course. We were all agog. In much drier, albeit windy conditions, I managed an 81. Made a double on the first, and was 7 over after 7, but managed to play well the rest of the way. Unforgettable experience, so grateful we were able to play the Old Course! And St. Andrews itself is such a treat.

[@mileseey7158]

Loved the video! It was really cool to see you guys go through the excitement of getting a tee time at St Andrews. The wait must have been nerve-wracking! Also, trying a deep-fried Mars bar? That’s classic! Thanks for taking us along on your golf adventure-it felt like I was there with you, rooting for you to get that spot. Great game and nice wrap-up at the pub!

[@David1131955]

What a WONDERFUL experience for you Andy, made all the more memorable doing it with a great pal. The hotel, golf, food and pubs were all spot on.....only the rain tried and failed to dampen your mood. Well done and thank you PXG for helping Andy bring all us golfing enthusiasts such an entertaining series.

[@daveholden3915]

I played it in March this year. It was great. The nostalgia etc. Those double greens are huge. And it's a lot hillier than people think. Great video Andy and well played. 👍

[@starks1974]

This is the one I've been waiting to see from you Andy. It's such an amazing place and you feel like you are part of golfing history.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Absolutely hope you enjoyed what we could do

[@DonAl9114]

Dear Andy , it must have been a great experience to play this golf course. On the other hand i noticed the very bad weather und all the hassle to get a t time confirmed. I am not sure if i had the patience to wait for the confirmation to be able to play there and pay on top a massive amount of money. This entire St. Andrews thing has become a tourist attraction based on a very long history in the sport of golf. But glad you two had a great time. Well played. 🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@alanrutland4424]

Ahh. Monday 😊. Really glad you got to play Andy. Shame it rained on your sunshine day. Look forward to the next.

[@JR-xn4gl]

Thanks for providing a vicarious experience of the Old Course, an experience I'm not likely to have in this lifetime. That said, I must compliment your still photography . . . no bogies there.

[@tonywoodssnr1400]

Nice one Andy, I've manage to play the old course twice and loved it, second time on the back 9 I lost count of the number of times I 3 putted, the greens are huge. Great episode again, roll on next Monday

[@charlesrohl7635]

All i can say is "Wow" Andy !! Rain,shine, or windy, don't care. What a site, and glad you finally got to play it. Definitely on my bucket list !

[@TheAverageGolfer]

It was a special day

[@1striperon]

Love it, Andy. An experience that I will never have, but you are my proxy. Thank you.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Bigmikenorthern]

Cool video Andy!! Can’t wait to play it one day either. 👊👊

[@chrisgirling1097]

Great experience Andy the one expensive course I would love to play, mind you it'd be worth the trip just to sample that fantastic looking pie 😊

[@patrickmcevoy6824]

Heading for my first time at the end of may. Weather in UK has been horrific, but I just can’t wait. Currently set to play leven links, elie links and fairmont St Andrews. Hoping to get a tee time for the old course on one of those days and move the tee time if we get lucky

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Hope you enjoy I am sure you will

[@guyr7351]

Picture B, as it is a golf channel. Well done on what looks like very challenging conditions with the wet weather, which I hate as wet grips/clubs ruin the game. Your low angle filming shows how big the undulations are on and around the greens which is what makes the course. Having been there many years ago to the open, I tell people to think of the sea with a heavy swell, frozen in time then painted green, that’s what the green’s looked like. TV never does them justice or the sheer size of the double greens.

[@sydsullivan7759]

A great round for your first time of playing St Andrews The hotel looks fabulous as did the pie St Andrews is a lovely place Can’t wait to go back there

[@TheAverageGolfer]

We will make a trip there soon

[@brianjarvis313]

Congratulations for getting on the Old Course!

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Thank you!!

[@jeffbates5401]

Andy good score and a great video. Great picture also

[@GOLFADDICT65]

great video Andy that pie looked pretty yummy LMAO when Lewis saw you dump your pie onto the plate priceless golfing with you guys would be on my bucket list cheers from Vulcan Canada

[@glennhickey6333]

Another Monday well spent in and on Saint Andrews. Thanks Andy!

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@kenmorbey676]

Played in 1990 as a 16 old yts golf pro! Was overawed by the thought of Seve and Nicklaus and Watson and Old Tom watching me tee off in my mind! Will go back one day for sure

[@TheAverageGolfer]

It’s an amazing feeling

[@kenhill3601]

Genius move with the pie

[@davidpellow6671]

perfect weather for this time of year

[@rodphillips9433]

Your picture on the 18th is a wonderful classic picture...but so many have that picture and know nothing about the Martyrs Memorial in the Background. It is worth looking it up...

[@VonTwinzig]

Seen the Old Course loads of time on the telly, but never realised just how big the greens are, and how far away you can still be from the hole once you get on the dance floor until now! They looked more than a bit tricky, Andy. Considering everything, I think your score was fantastic, and those lip outs….argh! Maybe I missed it, but didn’t hear how Lou did?

[@pathdoc1701]

My favorite episode!!!

[@terryparker743]

One of, if not your best Andy. I see that my wife has also commented, which for a non golfer, is saying something for your vid. I nearly cried the first time when I stood on the first tee and thought of not only of all the Champion golfers that had preceded me, but also the course history and the town of St Andrews. The first time we visited in 2017, I said to my wife that we were going back from Oz for the 150th Open. What an experience. The Dunvegan and Jigger Inn are the best. Yes, we came home with more than our share of Souvenirs. Keep up the great work Andy and look forward for us visiting again in 2025.🏌‍♀

[@wks4511]

Awesome video on an amazing course. Loved the views. Us folks in the US are jealous. ❤

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Thanks as ever bud

[@jacquesvilleneuve754]

I was in St-Andrews in September, great souvenirs. But veggies are NOT part of your diet when you travel there. Good thing golf compensates 😂

[@TheAverageGolfer]

😂😂

[@hebby8302]

Missed you by a day on my bucket list trip. Got to at least play the ladies putting course in the rain. Played Panmure thanks to discovering your channel then up to Nairn and got wonderful weather. Hope to be back across the pond someday

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Shame we missed you and hope you enjoyed Panmure

[@kennethjoiner2028]

Bucket list for sure, no matter the weather. Don’t know how you top this one. Love the series.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Thanks Kenneth

[@melabshier5812]

It's a good thing I just had lunch...lol. That pie looked fantastic. Oh, and the golf was good too. 👍

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Pie was better!

[@68mullen]

awesome video..... me and a mate were due to play the old, new and jubilee in december on the winter package. all 3 days cancelled due to frost :(

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Oh no disaster

[@mikenomikos9040]

Great experience! No Mezz putter? You putt so good with that.

[@DaddyDaughterGolf]

Amazing stuff! Do you colour grade your video post or is it straight from the DJI? We use the same camera, you inspired us to get it

[@TheAverageGolfer]

I colour grade in Final Cut

[@DaddyDaughterGolf]

@@TheAverageGolfer that’s cool! Keep up the great work ! Let’s get a game Sometime ? Your always welcome to our courses here (Haggs/Whitecraigs/Bonnyton) all in Glasgow 😊

[@leonardblush2557]

Dang, one only gets to give one like... Certainly enjoyed the golf, but really loved the travelogue part of it. The food healthiness level, on the other hand.... PS- Average golfers don't shoot 83 at St. Andrews in the rain with a boatload of three putts.😋

[@cynt1111]

My mate stayed at the Russacks just after they finished the renovation, cheap as chips and got a great deal over Christmas. It’s free to play the old course on christmas day.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

I have just spent the day with someone who played it this year for free!

[@cynt1111]

Always love a bargain

[@acemakerjay]

Congrats Andy. Covid interfered with us coming over to play the Old Course. Hope to get another chance soon. Should have stuck with the L.A.B. Putter?

[@eddieb27]

Great video. What an experience!

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Thanks and yes it really was

[@stgolf37]

nice to see my old friend Mike in the Starters Hut

[@econicorides]

What a great video! What was it like hitting that drive on 17?

[@TheAverageGolfer]

A little nervy but at that time I was hitting the ball ok

[@francescofortucci7457]

Got on the old course last week after entering the ballot.83 is a very good score in those conditions,The food looked great.I usually go in the jigger but it’s closed at the moment.St Andrews really is the best place.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Yes it’s have a refurb, the criterion is excellent

[@johnk.atchley5079]

Thanks for this video. It shows the course in a totally different and realistic light than when you see it during The Open on television, with crowds of thousands, aerial drone views, and the course in perfect groomed condition with the sun shining. You show it as it really is, in less than perfect weather, the way the average golfer would see it. It seems incredibly flat overall, much wider and vaster than it seems on TV. In part that is due to the perspective of your lens as even TV cameras make distances appear further than they actually are. But you show that the landscape is intimidating, and in this light rather gloomy. The tee shot is often quite scary. You really do need a caddie to know where to aim. Then of course, the devil is in the details of lumps and bumps and vicious bunkers one doesn't see, and in the breaks in the greens. Once you are at short range in close up, you do see your surroundings as anything but flat. I would happily have watched a longer video by you with all 18 holes because you give the true flavor of this storied course. I will be 83 in June and unless I win the lottery will never be able to play it, but through your eyes I can see it in the way it would probably appear to me if I could.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Thanks for the feedback John and I am glad you enjoyed our efforts John

[@rodphillips9433]

Hey Andy...did you even wake up from that meal? Looks sooo good... Glad you got to play...

[@TheAverageGolfer]

😂😂

[@paulturner5]

Well done mate. I’m so jealous 😁⛳️

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Cheers Paul

[@markmaioli4]

Wow can't believe that putt on the Road Hole lipped out!

[@larsstehr597]

Entering the 48h ballot in a couple of weeks for a wednesday teetime. Hope You brought good karma with this vlog Andy. Great to see You succeeded.

[@markhilton4920]

A good score in those conditions Yup my pie would have been on the plate aswell and I would have ordered gravy and smothers it 😂

[@curtchaffee]

The trip and the walk, so special! Didn't envy those long putts. Maybe I did a little.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

No a little too far from the hole!

[@toddblake5003]

Good to see you two playing The Old. What in the world was that shouting as you guys were coming down 18?

[@davidpearson243]

I played the old course a couple of years ago We were in August with blue sky and no wind I found it quite straight forward You don’t realise how tight it is side to side The biggest thing that put me off was the tees been just off the greens coming in from 150 to 170 thinking if I push this 10 yards I’m right into the tee box

[@TheAverageGolfer]

😂 I was more worried about the cars on 18!

[@garethmorgan7474]

Amazing video of the old course, you was very unlucky with some putts

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Tell me about it! But hey ho

[@matthewmooney8167]

Outstanding 🎯

[@matthewb8229]

Brilliant day, lad!

[@marksheehangolfcourses4722]

Hi Andy , where did the ball on the 17th that rolled past the trolleys come from ?!

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Someone’s drive off the 17th!!!

[@marksheehangolfcourses4722]

@@TheAverageGolfer they judged it well so !

[@jimorr3252]

I loved it there!

[@TheAverageGolfer]

It’s incredible place

[@paulthomson2288]

Now I know why Maurice Flitcroft wanted to stick it to the British golfing establishment.

[@callumfraser1011]

Hi Andy great vid as always, how much did it cost to play through the ballot? Cheers!

[@TheAverageGolfer]

£210

[@callumfraser1011]

@@TheAverageGolfer still pretty expensive considering all the standing water!

[@TheAverageGolfer]

@@callumfraser1011 agree think it’s a rip off

[@callumfraser1011]

@@TheAverageGolfer maybe you’ll need to head back during the drier weather see if it changes your mind

[@TheAverageGolfer]

@@callumfraser1011 I’ve done it now and won’t pay that sort of money again

[@russellloue721]

i was rooting for the par on 17!!!

[@stuartrawlings9436]

all golfers dream is to play st andrews including me so jealous looks like you were putting well

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Not well enough

[@boatbuilder781]

Well done to you!

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Cheers Richard

[@davehurley26]

Fantastic 😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@mikeperks1175]

Congratulations on the bAllot and a decent round at the home of golf

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Cheers bud

[@petermiller2880]

How much was it to play there. Something you will never forget

[@TheAverageGolfer]

£210 😢

[@davidwhittington9498]

What a lucky man 😊😊

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Absolutely

[@Blue_Dun]

While I appreciate you filming and sharing your St. Andrews experience with all of us, I can't help feeling bad you had to hassle filming and narrating during your first time in golf Nirvana

[@user-ob2td1lj3b]

Having a dream come true is one of the best miracles of life........

[@DavidJones-ko8gp]

Abuse of a pie that And! What were you thinking lol! Every time I see a vlog of the Old Course, it puts me off going to be honest. Is it all it's cracked up to be?

[@TheAverageGolfer]

It is what it is, it the best course in the world but the best history

[@bobsanders8030]

Golf's holy grounds.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

It sure is

[@davidree2858]

how much was the green fee?

[@TheAverageGolfer]

£210

[@davidree2858]

@TheAverageGolfer worth it though..

[@joeb1125]

Should have kept the L.A.B Putter in the bag

[@damienlawrence-sl9jq]

Are you still touring the country Andy?

[@TheAverageGolfer]

😂 I post a video every Monday from a. Different course, are you subscribed and do you have notifications on?

[@damienlawrence-sl9jq]

@@TheAverageGolfer I am but sometimes don’t get time to watch your videos. If you’re ever around Herefordshire try Ross on wye golf club it’s my local course. We have a lot of courses around the area. Check it out on KZbin and see what you think when you get time 👍

[@charlesmcgowan7475]

I honestly think it's only tourists that order deep fried mars bars.😂

[@johnnewman7605]

Envious or what, old course and a pie

[@duncand1964]

And, hope you don’t mind me asking but how much was the experience in total? Green fee, caddy etc.. asking for a friend if my lovely wife reads this 😉

[@TheAverageGolfer]

£210 I didn’t have a caddy

[@ericcull3971]

I’ve been in the ballot at least 20 times, to no avail. 😢

[@TheAverageGolfer]

No way! This was my first attempt, I feel guilty

[@interestedbystander196]

How exactly is The Old Course at St Andrews "off the beaten track"? Other than the obvious, I mean, that 99.999% of golfers will never play there...

[@davesimmons7907]

Nice video. Call me cynical but would you have got a game from the ballot if you didn't have a KZbin channel ? I'm not saying you did anything, I think it was more from their side so as not to look bad and get a bad video. Then again, it wouldn't have harmed them with enough Japanese and Americans coming to play it

[@irafael2]

St Andrew’s doesn’t need the publicity. I am 2 for 3 on ballot. Depends on day of week. Enjoy the video.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

I would be anonymous to them, my name on the ballot entry was Andy Sullivan, they don’t need any help form me

[@interestedbystander196]

What was all that yelling as you guys were coming up the 18th?

[@JamesCollins26158]

Never think of taking your cap off when having your supper manners don't cost a lot

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Bye James

[@tonyshorey3486]

How can you call St Andrews as off the beaten track?

[@TheAverageGolfer]

I find it very sad that this is the best comment you can come up with? What is the point of posting this Tony? It saddens me that you feel the need to post such nonsense

[@stillgame5975]

St Andrews “off the beaten track” ?

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Your right we should delete it 🤡

[@rufussthoo4083]

St Andrews is a gorgeous setting for a 'stay and play' and the Old Course has tremendous historic appeal, but the course itself looks a bit 'ordinary'. Not sure the hefty green fee can be justified. Better weather would help, but you can't buy that ...

[@TheAverageGolfer]

Yes pretty much agree with your sentiment

[@DIOS10]

So how much caddy cost ?

[@bigstew69]

No LAB putter anymore Andy? Is that because of the sponsorship or did you find a better option. My DF3 is due the end of May. Can’t wait for it to arrive.

[@TheAverageGolfer]

I am using 100% PXG thanks to their sponsorship, I have nothing but praise for the DF3 bud, hope you enjoy it 👍

[@bigstew69]

@@TheAverageGolfer makes sense. Thanks can’t wait for it to come.

[@tom-fp7vi]

golf/travel perfection