Oprah, The Biggest Heretic? | A Bee Interview With Erik Thoennes

[@beatnikcafe]

My answer to “have you ever seen a miracle ?” was the same, it immediately came to me about my fathers conversion and it put a smile on my face that I am not alone in seeing that conversion is a miracle.

[@Andy-vf7de]

I thought about the question, ‘what is your favorite sin?’. I see a dichotomy in the question, which I can’t quite articulate. But I will try. The devils only real trick is to get us to take our eyes off Jesus and put them on ourselves. It is the stunt he pulled in Eden. Looking at ourselves, placing ourselves at the center, is our favorite sin. So, my favorite sin is me.

[@cliffguthrie7530]

Enjoyed this discussion. Thanks!

[@mombeaubob]

Have you seen the horror of Newsom’s bill board ads for abortion using the words of Jesus. I don’t think there is a way to satirize this

[@RobCee4ever]

Yes. It’s purely demonic.

[@phearlesspharaoh3697]

Wow… sickening 😤🤮

[@georgewagner7787]

Evil

[@opinedontwhine]

Kay Nagle. Have you seen John MacArthur’s response to Newsom regarding this?

[@mombeaubob]

@@opinedontwhine I have not but, I will look for it. Thank you.

[@En_Marche]

What a great guest! Thank you.

[@adelewilson8968]

In so much that the BB is provocative, it spreads the gospel. Sometimes, it’s easier to hear something true from a humorous perspective that direct speech cannot necessarily achieve. The potential for a person to laugh at their own fallibility can make it easier to seek remedy.

[@KimDroptiny]

What a great interview! Erik was wonderful and handled you guys well! I could see the love of Jesus in him

[@WMHinsch]

Good interview! Y'all missed a great follow-up question on the age of the earth. When someone says, "I don't think Genesis is that kind (literal) of literature", my favorite follow-up questions are, "How would you classify the literature of the ten commandments, which claims to have been directly written by God?" In the ten commandments, the reason given for the weekly Sabbath is this: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day... Exodus 20:11 My second follow-up question is, "At what book and chapter CAN we start believing the Bible means what it says?" I welcome serious debate about this, and I don't pretend all the answers are easy. But as someone with a scientific background, I warn Christian leaders that much of the church leadership (even the "fundamentalists") today make the same mistake the Catholic church did with Galileo. Those religious leaders weren't defending clear Biblical truth. Instead, they were defending Ptolemaic astronomy, the science of that era, with a veneer of poorly interpreted Scriptures to try to give that science religious authority. It was a bad approach then, and it is a bad approach today.

[@williamhogge5549]

Ive seen many of Eriks lectures and he is off the charts amazing! So personable, yet Theologically exact. So much understanding packed in that head and heart.

[@banemaler]

I would love to see you all interview Doug Wilson. He was just interviewed for a piece by NBC and was hoping the Christian community would have picked up on it in a greater way.

[@levi-316]

Never heard of Erik. Glad to know about him now. This was a very interesting interview. Im going to check out more of his material.

[@marshaclark1398]

Laughter is the best medicine

[@jrgilby]

There is a difference between Individuality and Individualism. One is that everyone is unique and beautifully made. The other is that everything is about that one person.

[@AmosPressley]

It is wonderful to hear Dr. Thoennes gently suggest that "worship teams" and "praise bands" should study the Old Testament to help in identifying idolatry in the modern church. If you were an idolater, how would you know it? I confess I am beyond that ability. The destruction I have witnessed is too horrible. We have taken the hymns that have sustained and trained Christians for at least 1,700 years, and have replaced them with fluffy four-chord rock-n-roll from the Christian Entertainment Industry. May more and more people follow the example set here, stop ASSUMING they are blameless, and search the Hebrew Scriptures to learn what Idolatry actually is!

[@waynzignordics]

Great mix of humor and seriousness (or serious humor maybe). Well, it's your new motto anyway.

[@lonelibertarian]

Always good to see Jaret. Keep using him :)

[@gregseewald2161]

The thing about the beginning of Genesis, and whether each day was a 24 hour period?.. Well, each believer has a mind to understand things of God and of Truth.. Myself, i believe it's alright to believe God created everything in 6 days, and rested on the 7th..but that each day was considered a 'day' by God, and that because none of us were there to witness the 'Reality' of how the Creation 'happened', well.. it's enough to believe that everything was created in that one week time frame, ACCORDING TO GOD!.. We 'believe God', because we TRUST HIM, and because God 'cannot lie'. And all of this is good enough for me.. ...and Him!

[@mombeaubob]

Yea Erik! You are right on about Oprah.

[@saintjay1968]

I always wondered why her parents chose to name their daughter after Orpah who left, instead of Ruth who stayed. Other than being a more unusual name, I would pick the one with unwavering loyalty.

[@ladybug591]

For many years I have watched the corruption of people, Oprah has always been pushing the "new age" religions and odd-sex. The Beetles, and many rock and roll bands, got into the Eastern style beliefs, pushing dope, that influenced many naive kids back then. Illicit drugs were popular and fit in well with the lifestyles of many, the hippies constantly bragged about their dope smoking ways. Elite people did their LSD along with discreet sex parties of all stripes. We had popular gurus and shamans advising people and showing them what hallucinogenic vegetable or leaf their tribe took to contact "God" or various kinds of spirits, people are easily influence and easily corrupted. The drug culture boomed with non-christian people using marijuana and as many other drugs they could harvest or manufacture. Now the psychiatrists and the psychologists have taken over from the confessional and religious advisors. These newer charlatans give political propaganda and mind-altering drugs in the name of health and happiness. What a mess. We are all off to hell in a hand-basket. ALL christians in ALL denominations should be working together otherwise you will lose.

[@en5788]

The answer about the age of the earth lies in how you define time. We can't assume time has always travelled at the same speed. Plus, gotta love how Kyle just addressed the eyeball in the room!

[@georgewagner7787]

Wow. I wish I knew more science

[@jaybee9269]

It’s assumed that time has moved at the same rate. There’s basic assumptions for everything…

[@keenanrice2612]

Idolatry is something that is worshiping something other than God. Many warnings against it in all its' forms.

[@Ben-pk4cv]

I'd love to go from -6.50 to no glasses by my next DMV visit for a Driver's license. I think if I keep up Endmyopia habits consistently then I won't need glasses for computer work by then. I actually wear -6.00 for most of the day and I am assuming my upcoming Optometrist appointment will result in a -6.50 measurement. At least it will be the first time I know of that my eyesight has improved since prior appointments. My worst was -6.75 and that is what they measured last appointment.

[@mombeaubob]

I think The Seahawks are an idol. People coming to worship in their favorite player’s number makes me………I cannot even explain.

[@JakeSpeed1000]

Great conversation.

[@christophertaylor9100]

Perhaps not the greatest but certainly up there.

[@user-ks3qr5fk6m]

The answer is: The devil hates Latin and the Catholic Church. The possessed speak in English and all sorts of known and unknown languages. If you are interested in learning about spiritual warfare, look up Father Vincent Lambert or Father Chadd Ripperger. People are usually not delivered in a session. In addition, only God delivers the possessed.

[@ryant1506]

I love the Eagle fang shirt!

[@christianamericandominican2470]

I really enjoyed listening to this man of God. I will definitely look him up to read his material.

[@mgress100]

gotta love the oozing degrees of uncomfortableness around the 6000yr old Earth question

[@en5788]

Kyle is hilarious! Make em squirm!

[@en5788]

When people say they are spiritual but not religious, I like to share James 1:27

[@mikefahey6606]

Fantastic guest and interview. Was it truncated? Seemed to just get going when it ended.

[@williambradley6429]

I could listen to Erik talk for 20 hours.

[@Belmont-wz4gg]

He lost me when he said "individualism" was bad 😬. I think he meant selfishness.

[@saintjay1968]

My guess was Sodom and Gomorrah 😁 Actually, the bleep made the joke funnier 😂 Great interview - too funny!!

[@forumquorum8156]

And what can communal lead to? solzhenitsyn has some ideas on that.

[@banditnip0345]

After hearing his comments about Ohpra I wondered if that's why New York's going bonkers right now. The High Priestess has spoke!

[@sneggleblech]

The word he was looking for was "exorcists."

[@MrMartman777]

Paul's Free Will. on the Road to Damascus is a favorite

[@jbsweeney1077]

answer on culture war was a dodge.

[@johnholsti2724]

Sin is a worship problem? No. Actually sin is lawlessness. 1jn 3:4 And this guy is a Theology professor?

[@georgewagner7787]

I think he said idolatry

[@genxnewb]

Good answer

[@phearlesspharaoh3697]

I’d like to see you do a video on “why Calvinism?” … I personally don’t care for it but I DO love the teachers. They are some of the best orators, and If not for the predestination theology I’d be more comfortable listening to them. 😂😱

[@gingermatha4743]

Really?? If you can't take genesis as literal , why take anything in the Bible literally??? The gospel?? Pick and choose??? Are you sure you're not a heretic???🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@scorpio6587]

17:47 Both pronunciations are correct.

[@Rosie_C]

My pastor frequently mocks Oprah, but he always calls her “Orpah.” He also used to call a hockey player, Bartulis, “Bartholomew”.

[@annecramer7714]

Did you mean he calls her "Orpah" (Book of Ruth in the Hebrew Bible)? It was actually misspelled on her birth certificate!

[@Rosie_C]

@Anne Cramer Yes, thank you. :) Autocorrect! I thought it was interesting when they mentioned that. Interesting character to name your child after. 🤔 (My name comes from that book of the Bible, and that portion was my Bible reading this morning!)

[@robertdouglas8895]

The main idol is your body, thinking that you are a body that struggles against other bodies and condemns them. The transition to Spirit is why we are here. We are all one spirit, not separate from anything that is real. John 17.20-24. The transition is being born again. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit" It's putting fear behind and with it punishment. "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love." "Bodies" believe that the world is real. Jesus didn't. "Judge not by appearance but judge by righteous judgment." So knowing how old the earth is will not take us beyond it. Jesus never said that God is the puppeteer of earth. "Our Father who art in heaven." "The kingdom of heaven is within you." We know God through prayer, not perception. We put sin to death through forgiving the sin in others and then we know we are forgiven. "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; " " If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent." When you forgive, you know we have never left God's perfect creation." Jesus is coming back only for those that don't believe, "I am with you always." There's no waiting. Not taking the world seriously lets us go beyond it to God's true creation as Erik says, to God's kingdom. We get there through forgiveness, not judgment.

[@elonsmydaddy4560]

Why do people need a "worship team" to worship?

[@theelectriciansapp7802]

Don't trust anything this guy says. You can tell Kyle is skeptical which is great.

[@en5788]

I think Kyle is just unimpressed and just doesn't care which makes it even funnier.

[@shellyk3472]

How is it that death didn’t come into the world until Adam sinned, and yet dinosaurs died before Adam was made? According to scripture, death came into the world via Adam. The scriptures are either inerrant or errant.

[@banditnip0345]

I'm glad this show has the guy in the black t-shirt with the dry sense of humor. It made for some real boring watch time.

[@jasonscroger5065]

jordan peterson

[@geratkopfe]

Let's ban Kyle from podcasts with serious guests: he fights the Holy Spirit.

[@Benjamin-rp4hq]

I was going to say Michigan!

[@jessenone3708]

worship isn't a biblical word, it's a meaningless word invented to replace "bow down' in the bible. Every place you see the word worship, it's really bow down or prostrate before. In fact worship is n't in foreign bibles. in French the change the word bow down to adoration. same with the Germans. it's amazing to me that christians are totally uninterested in the truth on this matter. oh Jesus just kissed m e.

[@collette9008]

And that's no joke, man

[@pamczech5984]

Did you know when Oprah came to Chicago in 1975 she was a republican she went up against the alderman they were trying to get rid of cabrenie green a government housing project she paid for security guards out of her own money then things changed and she became the producers and it changed. The biggest change was after she went on a trip to south America with Shirley McClain she just never seem the same but I do know she started off as a republican because the morning prize movie came on in that spot I skipped school to watch old movies and I was so upset about this crazy new News show that came on

[@kiriakosg831]

Do an interview with Jay Dyer

[@williamgammeter5113]

Are the RC, Protestants, or Eastern Orthodox…the correct answer is Lutheran…wink wink

[@georgewagner7787]

Why did they close my friends school and put the building on the market for 5 million instead of trying to grow the school and reach more children and get a new pastor? No vision here

[@jasonmoncusgundinamo1811]

Awe man…. If you can’t believe God did it in six days and the world can be 6-7000 years old how can you believe he did it at all. The effects of the flood and no telling what God did to split human kind up by forming the earth to his needs is not off the table. You can make something date millions of years just at the house with a method using mostly home items. It’s funny when he says it’s not a select chosen few then says we are the ones set apart makes me laugh so hard. All non Calvinist’s do this thing where they don’t like a word so they call it different doctrine and use the word they like. Then the Calvinist’s are like that’s what I said. Just use the language in the Bible lol 😅 the Bible says he selects and can’t lose any not one. This is not hard. Stop judging God and just say I don’t care Jesus whatever you reveal is good enough for me. Nothing is unfair for God

[@en5788]

What translation do you read?

[@Forevertrue]

When your BFF is Harvy Weinstein you are a heretic.

[@reichbates6548]

I never understood why people wear their hats the wrong way? It looks so immature!

[@patriciaeverett5001]

Oprah is new age. So is Joel Osteen.

[@DATAPRINCESS]

Oprah is a universalist that believes there are many paths to God. Same as Maya Angelou. They chose Christianity as their path but whatever path you want to take other than Christianity is just fine. Anne Lamott is also a universalist and I see Christian sites that quote her. 😔

[@patriciaeverett5001]

@@DATAPRINCESS Yes except that Jesus said that He was the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father except through Him! And that we must be born again of God's Spirit. As born again for 48 years I know what lost was and I know what found is. There is no God except the Father accessed through the Son and by the power of Holy Spirit. There is no other path. And anyone else who thinks so is majorly deceived. And I'm praying for them.

[@-You-Tube-]

Funly Serous Seriously Funny

[@randalvaughan9798]

On Oprah ... people with 6 fingers or 6 toes makes me wonder about their DNA. Maybe some fallen angel blood there.

[@ashleydanielson3222]

Wow! I know someone who was born with six toes.

[@georgewagner7787]

Or a bad gene

[@felixroyale3870]

Apart from its more recent, repetitive content (something rebrands as something else again, another article destroying all democrats, another video of a man dressed as a woman, even more FBI raids) the Bee’s been ok - far from clever, but ok. This interview was just bad, though, and I felt sorry for your guest. Kyle, were you high or something? Hungover? Or have you decided that no interview prep and a rude demeanor is what you’re going with now? Jarrett did an ok job, but Kyle - that whole shtick is cringe.

[@professorwheelz]

Demons speak Latin. 🤣🤣🤣

[@OveranalyzingEverything]

Don't you know it's the original language. There was nothing before it lol.

[@jaliaskilo]

26:07 … Donkey = Jackass ?🤔?

[@dmbdmb3828]

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