Draymond And Shaq Get Into HEATED Debate On Prime Lakers Vs. Warriors

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The Big Podcast with Shaq

The Big Podcast with Shaq

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@halo3isawsome321
@halo3isawsome321 7 ай бұрын
"Dont let shaq get the ball" holy fuck, mind blowing idea, how did no other team think of this, are they stupid?
@KrispyKleenex365
@KrispyKleenex365 7 ай бұрын
Draymond the one who sounds stupid
@Morphil-n8x
@Morphil-n8x 7 ай бұрын
Only if you actually watched any of the Shaq-Lakers playoff games. NOT the highlights, your comment would then mean something
@damiester1
@damiester1 7 ай бұрын
@@Morphil-n8x Pretty sure you guys are missing his sarcasm lol
@KrispyKleenex365
@KrispyKleenex365 7 ай бұрын
@@damiester1 i fully caught it . And my comment remains the same 🫡
@DCPR24
@DCPR24 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@cashthemob
@cashthemob 7 ай бұрын
“I guess we not gonna fight then”😂😂😂
@illxander
@illxander 7 ай бұрын
That was low-key checkmate lol
@mageco5804
@mageco5804 7 ай бұрын
draymond had a point lol
@cashthemob
@cashthemob 7 ай бұрын
That had me in tears G😂
@HulkVahkiin
@HulkVahkiin 7 ай бұрын
​@thialhoinj1971 No, Draymond clearly had a point and Shaq agreed.
@eliotkuo3640
@eliotkuo3640 7 ай бұрын
Bishop trade Queen
@molawler4141
@molawler4141 7 ай бұрын
When Draymond said Javale lol
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
Shaq fooled Dray. Who did the Lakers have as a backup center? John Salley?
@OfficialTravvyTrav
@OfficialTravvyTrav 6 ай бұрын
😭😭😭😭 bro got some defense on god
@randombutspecific
@randombutspecific 6 ай бұрын
Javale was a decent defender though. For a backup center he was quality
@lildeeinthafield4790
@lildeeinthafield4790 4 ай бұрын
Javelin was a beast
@jwalker4479
@jwalker4479 4 ай бұрын
@@lildeeinthafield4790a beast? It ain’t like shaq
@biofixphysicaltherapy5353
@biofixphysicaltherapy5353 7 ай бұрын
Draymond is fucking hilarious…”yeah I wasn’t there!” 😂… prime shaq , and Kobe would be tough… I think people forget how good Kobe was at defending not only was he a world-class scorerbut a world-class defender.
@Cmelo7100
@Cmelo7100 7 ай бұрын
We don’t forget but they’re only 2 people. Did they have good role players? Yes. But the warriors have great role players and more depth. Kobe would be so tired running around guarding Steph and klay.
@AphasicMute
@AphasicMute 7 ай бұрын
No laker team is beating the 2017 or 2018 warriors bruh......
@Cmelo7100
@Cmelo7100 7 ай бұрын
@@AphasicMute no team*
@dimitriusjarman8687
@dimitriusjarman8687 7 ай бұрын
lol Kobe killing
@Benisuber1
@Benisuber1 7 ай бұрын
@@AphasicMute insane recency bias, Shaq is scoring 50 a game against the 17/18 Warriors
@twofaaaace5188
@twofaaaace5188 7 ай бұрын
The 73-9 Win GS team ain’t beating Kobe and Shaq Lakers BUT GS with KD that’s a different discussion
@joeymanny
@joeymanny 7 ай бұрын
The KD GSW is good offensively but they are softer frontcourt, KD played 5 most of the time for that team, imagine KD vs SHq
@leonyses2887
@leonyses2887 7 ай бұрын
73-9 gs team didn’t even win a championship. 😂
@Peppy869
@Peppy869 7 ай бұрын
@@leonyses2887cause durant got hurt….dude is saying if they had durant, it would be a different story. Comprehension is low these days
@Kvngcold
@Kvngcold 7 ай бұрын
@@joeymannyShaq would have to leave the paint. KD might be in foul trouble bout shaq would be as well lol.
@joeymanny
@joeymanny 7 ай бұрын
@@Kvngcold shaq wouldnt guard KD, becuase outside perimeter KD will be covered by Fox, Horry, Rice or george. Shaq will have a field day against this too little GSW team
@doublem1971
@doublem1971 7 ай бұрын
The only defensive scheme would have been"hack a shaq".😂😂😂
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
Or, Dray would've gotten Shaq to fight him, and the series would be over right there.
@Mr88cutty
@Mr88cutty 6 ай бұрын
Saying hack a Shaq was on the tip of his tongue 😂
@davidtucci6085
@davidtucci6085 4 ай бұрын
Hack a Shaq + plus golden state 3s… Gsw wins series … Shaq could not hit free throws
@littledarkone1995
@littledarkone1995 7 ай бұрын
Shaq's face when he heard "Javale McGee" 🤣
@mrphiscal
@mrphiscal 8 күн бұрын
Bbq chicken down there!!!
@Alex-tx6by
@Alex-tx6by 7 ай бұрын
I don't even think Kobe was his best version until after Shaq left
@alexanderritter1522
@alexanderritter1522 7 ай бұрын
He wasn't. Best kobe was when he took down that celtics team with hall of famers all over the place with only gasol and odem as his 2 and 3
@kingdoscuarto
@kingdoscuarto 7 ай бұрын
Kobe in the 2001 playoffs 29 points 6 assists 7 rebounds 👌🏻
@deandrebyrd2913
@deandrebyrd2913 7 ай бұрын
Kobe with the fro different
@Chris-qh5tz
@Chris-qh5tz 7 ай бұрын
Nah #8 Kobe was him.
@Chris-qh5tz
@Chris-qh5tz 7 ай бұрын
@@alexanderritter1522 Only Gasol and Odom? What about Bynum? Fisher? Ariza? That team was stacked.
@thechosen1860
@thechosen1860 7 ай бұрын
Shaq when he say “Stop it Dray”
@RemyMartin420
@RemyMartin420 6 ай бұрын
Shaq is 7'1 325 lbs and Draymond is 6'6 and 230 lmao hows he gonna stand in front of shaq and prevent him from getting the ball
@djsnake9693
@djsnake9693 5 ай бұрын
Wym? Easy kick in the balls 🤣
@RealChuty
@RealChuty 4 ай бұрын
Draymond is 6’7
@MonkeyDwuffy
@MonkeyDwuffy 4 ай бұрын
@@RealChuty1 inch is not gon make a difference you fool😂😂😂
@TheDoubleg3
@TheDoubleg3 4 ай бұрын
The same way Dennis Rodman locked him up
@freshswagga100
@freshswagga100 4 ай бұрын
Its called jumping. Ball gotta come down at some point and Shaq ain't comfortably catching lob-like passes everytime
@jroc828
@jroc828 7 ай бұрын
Shaq saying he was the 1st big fella running the court as if Hakeem didnt exist is crazy. Lol
@jw3638
@jw3638 7 ай бұрын
Wilt?
@Benisuber1
@Benisuber1 7 ай бұрын
Didn't he literally say he thought David Robinson was a track star in the JJ episode?
@HulkVahkiin
@HulkVahkiin 7 ай бұрын
Even I believe Shaq knows he was exaggerating
@maverick33guy95
@maverick33guy95 7 ай бұрын
Hakeem was little dude
@HulkVahkiin
@HulkVahkiin 7 ай бұрын
@@maverick33guy95 Little in what sense?
@dcam2
@dcam2 5 ай бұрын
Shaq in the beginning: “ain’t nobody stopping me from getting the ball.” Shaq a minute later after talking about the Pistons series against the Lakers: “I didn’t get the ball like I was supposed to.” 😂
@dvdgamingthings289
@dvdgamingthings289 4 ай бұрын
no sheed and Ben on the warriors tho that was a excellent post defense
@mrcalipride
@mrcalipride 3 ай бұрын
Shaq shot 62% for that series, him and Kobe had beef so Kobe refuse to give the ball to shaq.
@TheMaddBlackMann
@TheMaddBlackMann Ай бұрын
That was after the change of rules that allowed illegal defense.
@JackJackson-NBN
@JackJackson-NBN 7 ай бұрын
Lol Shaqs face when he said javel Magee
@thealisterr
@thealisterr 4 ай бұрын
He used to clown Javale on Shaqtn a fool many years ago
@apocalypticskepticus3299
@apocalypticskepticus3299 6 ай бұрын
MJ, Kobe, Lebron, Kareem. Choosing any of them as the goat would not be wrong. They were all absolutely unbelievable players.
@zacharygomes1471
@zacharygomes1471 6 ай бұрын
Kobe?
@bowskee
@bowskee 6 ай бұрын
saying Kobe is the goat is wrong theres literaly a better version of him which is MJ
@dogger37JC
@dogger37JC 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting Kareem in there. He’s overlooked way too often.
@randombutspecific
@randombutspecific 6 ай бұрын
Kobe is in a slightly lower tier. Only slightly.
@FallouFitness_NattyEdition
@FallouFitness_NattyEdition 6 ай бұрын
​@bowskee Well, he's greater than Lebron, that's for sure.
@akanatural986
@akanatural986 4 ай бұрын
I don't see how this didn't get more views it actually was a good Collab
@StressedOutJimmy
@StressedOutJimmy 7 ай бұрын
Peak Klay with defense still getting cooked by Kobe 😂😂😂
@jjohnson4013
@jjohnson4013 6 ай бұрын
Kobe in 2001 playoffs was avg 29pts 5asst 6reb and we saw what he did to the Spurs who the only finish with the best recode in the NBA what was the best defense team in the league
@XEVN7
@XEVN7 6 ай бұрын
I love Klay but that boi getting dog walked by Kobe
@goldenphoenix5945
@goldenphoenix5945 6 ай бұрын
@@jjohnson4013 And Kobe averaged 24.6 on 21.2 FGA in the finals with 41.5 FG% and 33% 3pt against the 76ers... He's the least efficient scorer out of Shaq, Curry, KD, and himself...
@cjuare123
@cjuare123 6 ай бұрын
Kobe himself respected prime Klay. Go look at the tape. Prime Klay was no joke. I’m sick of you casuals. It’s upsetting the 💩 you say.
@StressedOutJimmy
@StressedOutJimmy 6 ай бұрын
@@cjuare123 you in yo feelings 😂
@linkercasas1004
@linkercasas1004 6 ай бұрын
0:40 Shaq saw that every single game. It doesn't work. I've seen variations of that strategy (which is a good many times-just not applicable to Shaq) involving the Twin Towers, Hakeem, Ewing, and Oakley, Robinson, and Rodman. More often than not-Shaq still got the ball down-low. The type of strain Shaq would have put on the Warriors with foul trouble would SEVERELY limit how they play him, the type of lineups they could put on the court, and prevent them from playing their ideal tempo on offense. The number of high-percentage shots Shaq would make (and the absurd number of free throws he would get) against a team of small size would be too much for the Warriors to handle, regardless of what their backcourt would do.
@randombutspecific
@randombutspecific 6 ай бұрын
Didn’t Robinson and Duncan work to some extent? Shaq didn’t pop off against them
@shaquilleFarrish
@shaquilleFarrish 7 ай бұрын
Eazy baskets on Clay for Kobe
@Ahilliard44
@Ahilliard44 7 ай бұрын
This is klay pre injury? Chances are it’s a great battle. Don’t forget Klay was an elite 2 way player back then
@greyklopstock7155
@greyklopstock7155 7 ай бұрын
​@@Ahilliard44fr, everyone just forgot Klay had 37 in a quarter and 60 in 29 minutes. Dude was automatic while guarding the best guard on the other team. The death lineup would've cooked
@HulkVahkiin
@HulkVahkiin 7 ай бұрын
​@@Ahilliard44 Indeed. But Klay's defence ain't hindering Kobe, lol. Heck, Kobe has a better chance of stopping Klay since the former successfully guarded much tougher guards in his era.
@inn3rl0tuss69
@inn3rl0tuss69 7 ай бұрын
@@Ahilliard44yes but kobe was god tier on both sides
@user-df2uu3qp3y
@user-df2uu3qp3y 6 ай бұрын
@@Ahilliard44 put andre iguadala on kobe better than klay. kobe still scoring 35+ tho. dnt matter.
@dexter_johnson
@dexter_johnson 7 ай бұрын
Draymond is delirious.
@harveyscottz
@harveyscottz 7 ай бұрын
He's right. An ordinary guy like you calling a 4-time champion delirious 🤦 is stupendous. They may not stop Shaq in the paint, but I'd be damn if they can beat Steph, Klay & KD in the 3pt line. Which is basically a layup to them. What the Lakers gonna do? Make Shaq defend outside the paint? That's basically a suicide for the Lakers being Shaq a defensive liability 😅 3pts > 2pts 💁
@Jerry-b2f
@Jerry-b2f 3 ай бұрын
yea i dont get why people think the lakers would keep up with the 3s. GS would win in 5 if not a sweep
@juansosa1208
@juansosa1208 3 күн бұрын
@@harveyscottza4time backpack lol
@harveyscottz
@harveyscottz 3 күн бұрын
@@juansosa1208 lol backpack donkey might prolly WWE with MetaWorldPeace on the court 🤣 Oh! I forgot the midrange goat... Shaun Livingston!
@realtalkwithjordan8026
@realtalkwithjordan8026 4 ай бұрын
Green actually had a good take on why Kobe doesn’t get mentioned enough in that conversation. I’d love to see Dray and Skap Attack debate on Kobe vs LeBron for THIS reason: When Shaq left the Lakers’ roster was absolutely trash for 3 years… even with the terrible roster they only missed the playoffs one year, 2004-2005 (lebron also missed the playoffs that year). Kobe made the playoffs the next 2 seasons and had arguably his 2 best individual seasons breaking insane amounts of scoring records while making the all defensive team. But once Kobe got Pau GASOL, he dominated the league winning 2 out of 3 titles. Here’s where the argument comes in… Before Pau GASOL teamed up with Kobe, his Grizzlies were the last seed at 22-60. He joins Kobe and they immediately go to the finals. They lost, but they also were missing Bynum who would’ve been key against the stacked front court of Boston. And eventually they end up repeating. So Kobe did not get some franchise player who was leading his teams to victory. He got a guy who was individually talented but had done nothing in the league success wise. . Plus if you compare the numbers of Pau GASOL to those of D Wade, it’s not close. For LeBron to win his first title he had to team up with a guy in Wade who already won a championship and had a FMVP and was the 3rd best player in the NBA (and arguably the 3rd best SG of all time). Plus, Wade’s Heat the year before Bron joined was the #5 seed at 47-35. Also LeBron joined Chris Bosh who was a real franchise player and dragged Toronto to the postseason multiple years. These guys were in their primes too. They together won the same amount of championships that Kobe and Pau won.
@lancedecaille6806
@lancedecaille6806 3 ай бұрын
That's the best explanation I've heard about Kobe not being in the GOAT conversation
@willg3220
@willg3220 7 ай бұрын
They do get heated but they aren't heated here
@shakeembrown-b7t
@shakeembrown-b7t 4 ай бұрын
Draymond and Shaq should have a duo podcast 😂😂
@brynlawrence9554
@brynlawrence9554 7 ай бұрын
Draymond “I wasn’t on the flooor as if he would stop Shaq hahahaha”
@dvdgamingthings289
@dvdgamingthings289 4 ай бұрын
shaq would've killed him lol
@angelaw9476
@angelaw9476 7 ай бұрын
Shaq needs to do a follow up show to respond to Stephen A going on a angry wild rant.
@kishababi4463
@kishababi4463 7 ай бұрын
5:24 it just keeps getting better and betterrrr😂😂😂
@HotFactsWithRobertReese
@HotFactsWithRobertReese 7 ай бұрын
Shaq Kobe Glen Rice
@chinaskibukowski7747
@chinaskibukowski7747 4 ай бұрын
Pretty simple, let Shaq feast and stop everyone else. The Lakers would have no answer to the speed the Warriors play at offensively or the 3 point barrage they'd face. Dubs in 6.
@Itsuhsikhworld
@Itsuhsikhworld 7 ай бұрын
Klay guarding Kobe is crazy 😂
@PioVincentFelia
@PioVincentFelia 7 ай бұрын
What’s crazy is its single coverage. Kobe would kill that dude
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
@@PioVincentFelia That wasn't Kobe, so he wouldn't kill anyone.
@RampageYI
@RampageYI 7 ай бұрын
Kobe averaged 25ppg in the playoffs as the 1st and 2nd option. Klay averages 19ppg as the 2nd and 3rd option. Shaq averaged 24ppg and Steph averages 27ppg in the playoffs. Now add KD 29ppg and the lakers gone look stupid just like they did in 04.
@thezabarte1
@thezabarte1 7 ай бұрын
@@RampageYI😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@axxelfoley3304
@axxelfoley3304 7 ай бұрын
Steph generally doesn't play Great in the finals until he played the Celtics and please stop it with Klay guarding Prime Kobe and the Warriors had never had to guard a center in any finals that was average let alone Shaq's dominance would or caused fits for the Warriors who were a small team that teams didn't take advantage of while most teams wanted to play small ball with them
@nofreehooks
@nofreehooks 7 ай бұрын
GSW in 6! They would have 100 points before the third. Lakers was running the triangle still. Barely scoring 80 pts a game.
@jjohnson4013
@jjohnson4013 6 ай бұрын
I guess you never saw the 2001 Lakers in the playoffs?
@gideonsamuel9802
@gideonsamuel9802 7 ай бұрын
Shaq and kobe all day...
@skdog3_385
@skdog3_385 7 ай бұрын
Klay, Draymond, Iggy> Fox, Fisher, & Grant, by a more significant gap than Kobe, & Shaq over KD, & Steph
@stephenmarkelov1829
@stephenmarkelov1829 6 ай бұрын
idk that 2017 warriors team is very very good , very.
@MichaelSevilla97
@MichaelSevilla97 6 ай бұрын
nah that warriors team had a better bench steph kd klay would be too much as well
@Steph23780
@Steph23780 6 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelSevilla97A lot of perimeter defenders in Lakers would trigger klay Steph and KD to drive the basket and if Warriors doubled or trippled Shaq then Kobe and fisher would easily make 3s or run in the paint, and if you think the series would just end in 5 to 6 games then you're delusional ASF😂 Stop dreaming kid, prime harden in rockets almost beat them in game 7😂 Softy players of Warriors would get Bodied
@Steph23780
@Steph23780 6 ай бұрын
​@@stephenmarkelov1829A lot of perimeter defenders in Lakers would trigger klay Steph and KD to drive the basket and if Warriors doubled or trippled Shaq then Kobe and fisher would easily make 3s or run in the paint, and if you think the series would just end in 5 to 6 games then you're delusional ASF😂 Stop dreaming kid, prime harden in rockets almost beat them in game 7😂 Softy players of Warriors would get Bodied
@jaysaget1280
@jaysaget1280 7 ай бұрын
Where Dray messed up in this interview … he should’ve put his guy in that conversation. Steph completely changed the game, and has as many chips as Bron.
@openmike2941
@openmike2941 7 ай бұрын
They stopped allowing defense and the warriors were allowed to shoot uncontested 3s grats! then you got KD and you're like its fine so let's throw prime Lebron on the 2001 lakers and let them oh wait that wouldn't be fair sarcasm off
@soulzy3596
@soulzy3596 7 ай бұрын
No offense but if the nba actually reffed illegal screens the warriors are not as good .
@MichaelSevilla97
@MichaelSevilla97 6 ай бұрын
childish steph beat an injured cavs team in 2015 and a injured nuggets team in 2022 and he needed kd to bail him out against lebron his 4 rings aren't impressive at all 🤡✌️
@sabian.
@sabian. 7 ай бұрын
Smush Parker just catching a stray lol
@nofreehooks
@nofreehooks 7 ай бұрын
He ain’t name a single other player. 😂😂😂 that’s cold blooded.
@redman6790
@redman6790 7 ай бұрын
@@nofreehooks😂😂😂😂😂
@sabe2147
@sabe2147 7 ай бұрын
People out here really thinking Draymond wouldn't get demolished by Shaq 🤣
@dvdgamingthings289
@dvdgamingthings289 4 ай бұрын
fr he'd be like flee to shaq
@Pun116
@Pun116 4 ай бұрын
Everyone gets demolished by Shaq. What are you smoking?
@sabe2147
@sabe2147 4 ай бұрын
​@@Pun116 exactly but nobody is talking smack like Draymond, he is the only one smoking something 🤣
@vicedm1145
@vicedm1145 Ай бұрын
Dray didn’t even say he would stop him… and Shaq was saying lies this time lol. Wilt did it first
@djon_4011
@djon_4011 6 ай бұрын
2 kids arguing which cookies is the best, oreo or chips ahoy! 🤣
@peteranzano267
@peteranzano267 7 ай бұрын
I'm through the first 5 minutes of the video and neither of them have mentioned KD's name yet. That's crazy to me.
@BonesDMS4life
@BonesDMS4life 7 ай бұрын
Cuz kd is only 2 rings for them they got 1 before kd and 1 after
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
@@BonesDMS4life I don't think Bogut played with KD, and Bogut would be great asset versus Shaq. I'm not sure why Shaq is dissin him. Maybe Shaq's scared of him.
@peteranzano267
@peteranzano267 7 ай бұрын
@@BonesDMS4life when Shaq initially presented the scenario to Draymond, he said "your best year vs my best year". Some people might make the argument that 2015 was their best year, but I wouldn't. They were better with KD than without him, in my opinion. Once you acknowledge that, his named has to be mentioned. Shaq said at one point "nobody's guarding me, nobody's guarding Kobe, nobody's guarding Steph, and nobody's guarding Klay". KD's possibly the most un-guardable out of all of them....at least with Shaq, you can make him hit free throws. And KD definitely belongs in that statement before Klay, even if you think Steph and Kobe are better scorers.
@BonesDMS4life
@BonesDMS4life 7 ай бұрын
@@peteranzano267 man they best year without kd is two years man .
@peteranzano267
@peteranzano267 7 ай бұрын
@@BonesDMS4lifeno offense, but I have no idea what you just said
@plymouthrdrell
@plymouthrdrell 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think draymond could gaurd shaq today
@boytoy7846
@boytoy7846 7 ай бұрын
Crazy af
@richardng3817
@richardng3817 7 ай бұрын
dray can fight shaq every game!
@raulsolis9563
@raulsolis9563 7 ай бұрын
I mean the skinny dennis rodman gave shaq problems
@plymouthrdrell
@plymouthrdrell 7 ай бұрын
All of you are intoxicated 🍻 Shaq will have twenty points in the first quarter and Draymond gone have one made free throw cause shaq put him on his ass and two assists two Steph 😂
@raulsolis9563
@raulsolis9563 7 ай бұрын
@@plymouthrdrell foul and put him on his ass because he cant guard him. Thats what lames do when they cant guard someone, they foul
@FallouFitness_NattyEdition
@FallouFitness_NattyEdition 6 ай бұрын
Klay got his ankles broken by Kobe in the same game where Kobe tore his achillies. There's no way Klay is taking a raw athletic Kobe.
@dogger37JC
@dogger37JC 6 ай бұрын
That play came to mind as soon as I heard Draymond say that Klay would defend Kobe 😂
@daviddennen7479
@daviddennen7479 5 ай бұрын
Nah even Kobe respected Klays abilities
@FallouFitness_NattyEdition
@FallouFitness_NattyEdition 4 ай бұрын
@@daviddennen7479 Just because Kobe respected his abilities doesn't mean Kobe wouldn't destroy Klay. Klay is great, but he isn't on Kobe's level. Not even close.
@jordanjenkins1671
@jordanjenkins1671 7 ай бұрын
The rules they play with determine who wins
@Enonymous99
@Enonymous99 4 ай бұрын
No, warriors were great cuz they ran and outscored teams with easy 3s Warriors can’t run against a Shaq and Kobe team Lakers in 6 under either rules
@albatraoz1473
@albatraoz1473 Ай бұрын
@@Enonymous99Steph, Klay, KD, Draymond. Those lakers teams stand no chance. Sure Shaq will get his, but Kobe won’t beat Klay, Steph & KD at once.
@rarebrownboi774
@rarebrownboi774 7 ай бұрын
7’3 n 9’4 wingspan is insane
@michaelgriggs7839
@michaelgriggs7839 4 ай бұрын
he doesn’t have a 9’4 wingspan and he’s actually 7’1. he might’ve been talking about his standing reach being 9 feet which makes more sense
@Cannon4545
@Cannon4545 4 ай бұрын
@@michaelgriggs7839 Yeah no one has a 9'4" wingspan not even Wemby lmao
@eatingnemo9582
@eatingnemo9582 4 ай бұрын
@@michaelgriggs7839he’s actually not even 7’1 that’s his shoes height. Just a strong 6’11 confirmed by himself
@PrimeClipsPlug
@PrimeClipsPlug 7 ай бұрын
Dray vs Shaq would be legendary.😭
@AGholst502
@AGholst502 7 ай бұрын
Dray would foul out in the 1st half lol
@percybland256
@percybland256 7 ай бұрын
DRAYMOND WASN'T BORN THEN. HE CANNOT SEE 3D!! HE SEES ONE DIMENSIONAL LIKE ALL THESE GUYS THAT ONLY SAW VIDEO!!!
@alexanderritter1522
@alexanderritter1522 7 ай бұрын
It would be embarrassing for draymond
@BonesDMS4life
@BonesDMS4life 7 ай бұрын
@@percybland256yes he was goofy he’s damn near forty
@openmike2941
@openmike2941 7 ай бұрын
For 1 quarter before Dray out for 3 games with a sprained back
@jimbouwman3540
@jimbouwman3540 3 ай бұрын
Shaq: Youre Answer aint gonna Hurt my feelings -> immediately takes his glasses off😂
@Kkkkk-egh
@Kkkkk-egh 7 ай бұрын
Love this conversation
@markingakabigk
@markingakabigk 6 ай бұрын
Draymond acting like Kobe didn't win 2 without Shaq he definitely in the convo rite at the top
@HassanWilliams-xp5xn
@HassanWilliams-xp5xn 4 ай бұрын
Facts
@rebeleazy9221
@rebeleazy9221 7 ай бұрын
Not even the KD warriors team could beat any of the 3peat Laker teams. Could GS even make it through the west to meet the Lakers in the Western Finals. Spurs: Duncan, Robinson, Elliott, Johnson Portland: Wallace, Smith, Pippen, Stoudamire, Wells Sacramento: C-Webb, Bobby, Divac, Peja, Christi Utah: Malone, Stockton, Russell, Ostertag, Stevenson Suns: Kidd, Marion, Hardaway, Rodgers, Robinson Nuggets: Van Exel, Mcdyess, Hardaway, Posey Dallas: Dirk, Nash, Finley, Bradley😂 West was tough as hell.
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
The Suns sound like a team, that could've guarded the perimeter. The other teams, barbeque chicken.
@isniuq
@isniuq 7 ай бұрын
@@penkima4923 naaaaaah bbq chicken for the teams mentioned after Sac. Those 3 teams can run them off of the 3 line
@aaronwin33
@aaronwin33 7 ай бұрын
None of those teams have the combination of big man play, 3 point shooting, and defense that would be able to hang with GSW offensively and defensively. Only the Lakers would have a shot, it would come down to if horry/fisher/fox could hit enough threes once GSW doubles Shaq
@bielverdao8505
@bielverdao8505 6 ай бұрын
Kd warriors would have cooked basically everyone of those teams, stop being nostalgic.. that gsw is one of the best teams in the history! Kd is one of the greatest scorers of all time, no one at that time would be able to guard prime kd, having the best shooter duo in the history withe kd, steph is top 2 pg, prime klay was a extremely good 2 way and extremely clutch, and one of the best 3 pt shooters of all time, draymond was really really defensively and really good playmaker, and wasnt a liability offensively as he is now, and that team also had a good depth.. the amount of spacing they could generate, those teams would have zero chances to counter it, playing the old-school style of basketball.. the only reason gsw lost to raptors and didn't get to have 3 stray championships was because of the injuries
@RampageYI
@RampageYI 6 ай бұрын
Lol
@GirthVader704
@GirthVader704 7 ай бұрын
Dray don’t even believe what he’s saying lol
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
Not sure where Shaq got the idea that Bogut couldn't guard him. Nobody can stop Shaq, but Bogut would do just about the best job possible.
@daviddennen7479
@daviddennen7479 5 ай бұрын
Drays right, trade Lakers twos for three's. But I do think the rules matter. Lakers lose with new rules, warriors lose with old rules
@kuunami
@kuunami 7 ай бұрын
They weren't beating a prime Shaq and Kobe. Not a chance.
@SanctumROTMG
@SanctumROTMG 7 ай бұрын
He said any championship team this means prime Curry coming off 2x MVP, Prime Klay avg 22 as a 3rd option and shot above 40% from 3, Prime KD going into his first FMVP and then Prime Draymond who was the DPOY. Im sorry but 2016-2017 warriors are beatting Shaq and Kobe in 5.
@Pauly_walnuts
@Pauly_walnuts 7 ай бұрын
Gs would run them out of the gym be serious. Shaq would be exausted midway through the 2nd quarter
@sade9397
@sade9397 7 ай бұрын
Bro, they are whoooooping Shaq & Kobe wdym, and I fucking hate the warriors, but that's exactly why
@DjSostre7
@DjSostre7 7 ай бұрын
Umm you're absolutely nuts. Those gs warriors would've beaten even the bulls. Nevermind the Lakers.
@mokhtarksiksii
@mokhtarksiksii 7 ай бұрын
Without KD the lakers will easily win a 7 game series but with KD it will be the warriors in 5 or 6
@Mistachill
@Mistachill 6 ай бұрын
6:35 - Funny how people have to come up with these convoluted justifications to gas up Lebron and diminish Kobe. Then you'll here Draymond on a different interview reference Lebron didn't have enough help to win more rings. So Kobe not winning due to lack of talent, hurts him. Lebron not winning due to lack of talent, is an excuse. I wish Draymond would just come out the closet completely and start wearing Klutch Sports and Lebron fan boy paraphernalia when doing interviews.
@moyltx
@moyltx 7 ай бұрын
Green delusional
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
The only one not delusional.
@NoHandleNameScrewTube
@NoHandleNameScrewTube 2 ай бұрын
How do you call four rings delusional 😂you are crazy
@Acizzle7192
@Acizzle7192 7 ай бұрын
Draymond saying the series wouldn’t even go 7 games…lol so disrespectful 😂 Shaq and Kobe win in 7
@richardng3817
@richardng3817 7 ай бұрын
i believe dray. Golden State wins hands down.
@MultiKushie
@MultiKushie 7 ай бұрын
@@richardng3817no they don’t casual 😂
@shawnsmith9820
@shawnsmith9820 6 ай бұрын
​@@MultiKushie they do casual especially in this era
@MultiKushie
@MultiKushie 6 ай бұрын
@@shawnsmith9820 they don’t slow guy . Now go do your homework and take a nap.
@marekboldin4386
@marekboldin4386 5 ай бұрын
@@MultiKushieur the causal cause Shaq lakers overated 😂Kobe’s and pau team sweep the Shaq lakers …a real completion would be warriors vs Kobe’s lakers ..03 lakers got gentlemen swept by pistons and arguably lost to Portland and Sacramento ..
@Random2cents
@Random2cents 7 ай бұрын
Shaq: whos gaurding kobe Draymond: kaly Shaq: *pause* GS is good but not a chance against LA
@mbz205
@mbz205 3 ай бұрын
0:33 Shaqs face lmao 🤣🤣🤣
@playmaker7331
@playmaker7331 4 ай бұрын
Steph & T-Mac should be in the GOAT talk as well
@BrandonL-wb8lp
@BrandonL-wb8lp 2 ай бұрын
TMac hell no. But Steph, if he can win one more, I 100% agree with that.
@playmaker7331
@playmaker7331 2 ай бұрын
@@BrandonL-wb8lpT-Mac was a mf’kn dawg! When it comes to scoring, dude is probably the best ever if you ask me. Everyone talking about Kevin Durant being this “unicorn”.. T-MAC was a unicorn! You talking about a 6’8”-6’9” Shooting Guard with a 42 inch vertical and can score on all 3 levels! 🤯😱
@Nocturnal808
@Nocturnal808 2 ай бұрын
I luv T-Mac but you can’t be in the conversation if you never lead your team past the 1st round of the playoffs , sorry just stop it
@mikeyisniceha
@mikeyisniceha Ай бұрын
Tmac is a legend but he’s not in the greatest of all time conversation.
@sapperEvO
@sapperEvO 4 ай бұрын
You know Draymond is smokin crack when he said Klay is guarding Kobe
@AntronDaughtry
@AntronDaughtry 7 ай бұрын
Draymond stop it 😂 no chance bros
@AphasicMute
@AphasicMute 7 ай бұрын
2018 warriors are goated....
@casualgamer4898
@casualgamer4898 7 ай бұрын
notice you couldn't explain why
@MichaelSevilla97
@MichaelSevilla97 6 ай бұрын
and no chance lakers stop steph kd klay 😂
@casualgamer4898
@casualgamer4898 6 ай бұрын
@@MichaelSevilla97 exactly all they gotta do is shoot 3s and hack a sham easy dub
@jaybalckstorm1149
@jaybalckstorm1149 7 ай бұрын
klay can not stop kobe at all.......
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
That wasn't Kobe winning the three-peat.
@fredoinhisbag
@fredoinhisbag 6 ай бұрын
@@penkima4923but he still not stopping Kobe at all.
@MichaelSevilla97
@MichaelSevilla97 6 ай бұрын
true they would put iggy or that knucklehead draybum to slow down young kobe kd made that warriors team a cheat code their offense was too much for any team lakers would lose in 6
@Steph23780
@Steph23780 6 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelSevilla97Warriors are soft ASF they would get Bodied by Lakers😂
@texastoast9629
@texastoast9629 5 ай бұрын
@@penkima4923 casual. basketball is a team sport. shaq mainly dominated the first 3 quarters and kobe took over in the 4th. they needed each other.
@luisasigala9494
@luisasigala9494 7 ай бұрын
Is call the 2004 Detroit Piston, Shaq forgets about Ben Wallace, I’m sure Shaq still has nightmares
@ZanyZain_
@ZanyZain_ 7 ай бұрын
He def ain't have any nightmares lol Shaq averaged that series and that was the last (arguably) highly-productive season of his career
@ArthPedro
@ArthPedro 7 ай бұрын
@@ZanyZain_ Shaq that same year averaged 17 against Yao lmao
@kelliepastellie8619
@kelliepastellie8619 7 ай бұрын
no cap 👍
@SpecialOps23
@SpecialOps23 7 ай бұрын
Ben Wallace working his ass.
@THE_BEAR_JEW
@THE_BEAR_JEW 7 ай бұрын
Nightmares of scoring 26.5 PPG on 63%? Ok.
@castawayz4280
@castawayz4280 6 ай бұрын
People forget how Kobe was good and that 02-03 run on BOTH ends
@theone9288
@theone9288 7 ай бұрын
*Which rules they b playing by? Men's rules or today nba rules?*
@NeverSober8008
@NeverSober8008 5 ай бұрын
If it’s men’s rules they are gonna play football or hockey lmao. Let’s not act like basketball is like that.
@theone9288
@theone9288 5 ай бұрын
@@NeverSober8008 it isn't...but it's undenyable that nba has gotten soft sincr that Pacers brawl
@EPHONxX
@EPHONxX 4 ай бұрын
​@theone9288 yes because yall allowed the WWE to enter the NBA lol
@TreWill24
@TreWill24 4 ай бұрын
I turned it off when he said Klay guarding Kobe.
@Vindicated-d3q
@Vindicated-d3q 4 ай бұрын
Shaq: Who's guarding Kobe? Draymond: Klay! Shaq: ...... Few seconds later Shaq: We'll continue this conversation... LMAF hahaha
@thatsbadcap6912
@thatsbadcap6912 5 ай бұрын
The fact that Shaq fights for his guy to be in the conversation is everything, after all these years
@Nerosung
@Nerosung 7 ай бұрын
Lakers in 5
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
...4, 3, 2, 1, Cancun!
@MichaelSevilla97
@MichaelSevilla97 6 ай бұрын
you lakers fans are crazy that warriors team had the best offense of all time kd made that team a cheat code and they had the better bench warriors in 6 or 7 ✌️
@Steph23780
@Steph23780 6 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelSevilla97you are a WarriorsT@rds😂
@Steph23780
@Steph23780 6 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelSevilla97 A lot of perimeter defenders in Lakers would trigger klay Steph and KD to drive the basket and if Warriors doubled or trippled Shaq then Kobe and fisher would easily make 3s or run in the paint, and if you think the series would just end in 5 to 6 games then you're delusional ASF😂 Stop dreaming kid, prime harden in rockets almost beat them in game 7😂 Softy players of Warriors would get Bodied
@Steph23780
@Steph23780 6 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelSevilla97A lot of perimeter defenders in Lakers would trigger klay Steph and KD to drive the basket and if Warriors doubled or trippled Shaq then Kobe and fisher would easily make 3s or run in the paint, and if you think the series would just end in 5 to 6 games then you're delusional ASF😂 Stop dreaming kid, prime harden in rockets almost beat them in game 7😂 Softy players of Warriors would get Bodied
@Camilo316
@Camilo316 7 ай бұрын
Draymond really thinks he is this incredible player that can guard anyone and saying that Shaq won't get the ball. LMFAO Draymond is a dirty player and thats the only way he will be able to stop Shaq. Dray is really lucky that he has been able to play as much as he could without repercussions. Dude should've been suspended a couple of times indefintely. Don't understand why S Curry and other teammates protect him instead of being honest with him and tell him he is a dirty player.
@stevend.bumgarner6134
@stevend.bumgarner6134 5 ай бұрын
Dray is high IQ d. He will be throwing all kinds of schemes at them. If anyone could lead that D it’s Dray
@ROBERT-wq7cj
@ROBERT-wq7cj 7 ай бұрын
NO WAY A TEAM FULL UP OF LIGHT SKIN DUDES WAS BEATING THE LAKERS, PLUS THE LEAGUE WAS MORE PHYSICAL CURRY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN HIT BY SHAQ 1 TIME HE'S THROUGH
@SharonBedney
@SharonBedney 7 ай бұрын
People don't believe me when I talk about the light skin bias in the NBA. I remember when you rarely saw light skinned players. But they are everywhere now and Draymond don't bother some of them with his so called bad a--.
@ROBERT-wq7cj
@ROBERT-wq7cj 7 ай бұрын
@@SharonBedney 👁️AGREE✅
@lilxhapo8366
@lilxhapo8366 3 ай бұрын
“ you not getting the ball Shaq “😂😂😂
@avinashgossai
@avinashgossai 4 ай бұрын
Nobody is stopping Kobe or Shaq
@Mr1217juan
@Mr1217juan 3 ай бұрын
Young fans don't understand man.. SHAQ IN TODAYS NBA wouldn't be fair starting centers would be fouled out in the first quarter backup second quarter they would struggle just to keep guys in the game. He was so dominant he didn't even work out in the off season.
@Kaybaptista
@Kaybaptista 7 ай бұрын
Green STILLLLLL DOSNT THINK HE cost the warriors. Kevin Durant and Poole plus multiple rings lol 😂 he delusional. Shaq and Kobe n fisher n horry wda torched them warriors. He wlda threw green around like a rag doll
@percybland256
@percybland256 7 ай бұрын
DILLUSIONAL PEOPLE. PSYCHOTIC PEOPLE, DEMENTIA FOLKS WILL NEVER SEE THEIR DOWNFALL!
@Mj_flockkk
@Mj_flockkk 7 ай бұрын
Bro when i say curry is goin torch fisher i mean dat wit like all disrespect, we already saw what kd did to kobe.. shaq and kobe are goin to score no doubt but that warriors offense is poetry in motion bro
@KillenEMsoftly
@KillenEMsoftly 7 ай бұрын
warriors never won without dray
@BonesDMS4life
@BonesDMS4life 7 ай бұрын
They don’t win without draymond and it’s been proven time after time update your take
@Mj_flockkk
@Mj_flockkk 7 ай бұрын
@@BonesDMS4life and if shaq and dray foul out who is it gon affect more? The lakers or warriors? Cuz who next up in line for da lakers? luke walton?☠️
@mikeyisniceha
@mikeyisniceha 7 ай бұрын
I give respect to draymond admitting they’d lose playing with the early 2000s rules but he also just admitted his era is softer.
@yansonfilpo1818
@yansonfilpo1818 7 ай бұрын
Warriors with KD would beat any Lakers team. Too many scorers
@KrispyKleenex365
@KrispyKleenex365 7 ай бұрын
Too many scorers vs easy buckets 🤨 Shaq downlow in the paint ALL NIGHT Kobe being Kobe Big shots from big shot Rob Fisher’s physicality Vs multiple perimeter shooters Live & Die by the 3 In a 7 game series Curry has at least 2 bad to mid shooting nights Klay also If Curry can shoot 48% FG & 45 % 3pt Klay shoots 45 % FG & 45% 3pt While combining for 45 ppg & KD being able to handle getting bullied and bothered for 5 games then they have a chance to Win LAL in 7 5 games out the series
@openmike2941
@openmike2941 7 ай бұрын
I would pay to see kd try to take a charge from shaq and then I will attend kds funeral, you babies forget rosters had 2 extra centers just to foul shaq because he was that dominant. GO watch some highlights of the elite talking about how dominant shaq was. And they would be a LOT more physical than anything golden state could handle look at how steph has been just since they started letting people actually defend. Frail state warriors
@KrispyKleenex365
@KrispyKleenex365 7 ай бұрын
@@openmike2941 KD got bullied by the T Wolves & Boston before didnt he? Shaq would terrorize GSW 🫡
@戴于翔-v3h
@戴于翔-v3h 4 ай бұрын
@@KrispyKleenex365 cap. He lost his achilies. He almost beat bucks the champ in the year by himself
@nikko2thep
@nikko2thep 7 ай бұрын
Hate this debate because one: it’s never gonna happen and two: of course they’re gonna say their team would win.
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 7 ай бұрын
Of course the entire comment section is going to say Shaq's team is winning.
@henningts
@henningts 7 ай бұрын
Mentioning Sacramento 1000 times even though everybody knows the Kings were screwed by the ref is hilarious.
@dlakerguy
@dlakerguy 7 ай бұрын
The Kings shot 16 of 30 from the line in game 7, at home. They lost the game by 6. They could have easily won the game and they blew it. Don't blame the refs on that.
@olphatty1
@olphatty1 7 ай бұрын
They got robber Mavs won because Cuban hired people to show how Miami was rigged. Look it up.
@EmperorLelouchx
@EmperorLelouchx 7 ай бұрын
@@dlakerguywe talking about game 6
@dlakerguy
@dlakerguy 7 ай бұрын
@@EmperorLelouchx There were 7 games in that series. The Kings lost 4 of them. I can find major reasons for each of those losses that don't include the refs. That's why the series last 7 games. If flushes out any fluke games as the reason a team wins or loses. You have 7 chances to win 4. Kings couldn't do that in 2002, or 2001, or any other year against the Lakers. They had their chances and lost. Crying about the refs 22 years later doesn't change the reality of what happened.
@tevinwebb
@tevinwebb 7 ай бұрын
Draymond’s take on the Kobe debate was the best point he made when asked his opinion
@NemohHoes
@NemohHoes 7 ай бұрын
Kobe is simply not in the GOAT conversation because at the end of the day he wasn't better than Jordan and actually neither is LBJ. Now if Kobe is better than Lebron, that's a whole other conversation. I def think Kobe should be in that nr 2 conversation, all the time
@dekonstruction
@dekonstruction 7 ай бұрын
stop trolling get a life
@carltompkins8578
@carltompkins8578 7 ай бұрын
Totally disagree with u
@carltompkins8578
@carltompkins8578 7 ай бұрын
Kobe better than lebron
@MarcusTheJR
@MarcusTheJR 7 ай бұрын
Other than scoring, what does Kobe do better than Lebron James
@everybodyloveham4402
@everybodyloveham4402 7 ай бұрын
​@@MarcusTheJR the better defender, better all around scorer, Better post game, better foot work, better, beat the toughest opponents (60 win teams)
@MrBrick68
@MrBrick68 6 ай бұрын
Forget Kobe, Magic is the one forgotten about. To me, most have Magic as the greatest Laker
@slurmsmackenzie5729
@slurmsmackenzie5729 7 ай бұрын
Draymond forgot his big red nose 🤡
@AT-qm8gv
@AT-qm8gv 6 ай бұрын
Kobe not being in the conversation has nothing to do with LeBron coming up. It has to do with the fact that Tim Duncan existed and was the best of his era. Tim Duncan should be more in the GOAT conversation than Kobe is.
@Danno-tl4rp
@Danno-tl4rp 7 ай бұрын
Draymond’s delusional.
@christopherpaul7588
@christopherpaul7588 7 ай бұрын
Hell no. It's math. Threes count for more than twos and prime Warriors had three elite three point shooters.
@_Dee2nd
@_Dee2nd 7 ай бұрын
@@christopherpaul7588I bet Shaq making more 2’s than they make 3’s. No matter how could they shoot it won’t be 70% or higher cause that’s Shaq field goal if Dray & Bogut suppose to guard him 😂 damn near 50 & 15 averages
@cooltrashgamer
@cooltrashgamer 4 ай бұрын
@@_Dee2ndShaq didn’t even average 60%, getting fouled doesn’t count as a miss either. Non fouled FG% was 58%. Steph is 42% from 3, but threes are worth 50% more, which is the equivalent of 63% from 2. Kobe is even worse at 44%. Klay from three is also converted to over 60% from 2. They would for sure live and die by the 3, but Steph and Klay just have to shoot their average and they would out score the lakers.
@phatuswesson2867
@phatuswesson2867 6 ай бұрын
“And you got yo big ass split” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ArthPedro
@ArthPedro 7 ай бұрын
GSW in 5
@john_trains
@john_trains 4 ай бұрын
I totally agree with what Draymond said about why Kobe is not in that conversation. I think it makes sense, and Kobe is my favourite player ever
@brandonmcfarland5200
@brandonmcfarland5200 3 ай бұрын
You Are Hitting 305K!!!!
@BabyMamaMaker
@BabyMamaMaker 4 ай бұрын
PG: Derek Fischer SG: Kobe Bryant SF: Robert Horry PF: Rick Fox C: Shaquille O’Neal Coach: Phil Jackson PG: Stephen Curry SG: Klay Thompson SF: Kevin Durant PF: Draymond Green C: Zaza Pachulia Coach: Steve Kerr
@robertvazquez9576
@robertvazquez9576 4 ай бұрын
Kobe and Shaq r killing the warriors easy money 💯
@shantanumishra9106
@shantanumishra9106 5 ай бұрын
The restraint Shaq had to show when Draymond said Javele McGee 😂
@TylerRoyMusic
@TylerRoyMusic 7 ай бұрын
04 Pistons had amazing defense and would lock Golden State’s perimeter up. They already beat the Lakers.
@Theworsttubesperiodt
@Theworsttubesperiodt 7 ай бұрын
Kobe was hated more than any of those goat players
@johnthomas2677
@johnthomas2677 Ай бұрын
“Draymond stop.” 😂
@Casper0123
@Casper0123 7 ай бұрын
“Draymond Stop….Draymond….” 😂
@backstreetmarine1775
@backstreetmarine1775 6 ай бұрын
That ninja Draymond said "Smush Parker"😂😂😂 7:00😂😂😂
@sprsk
@sprsk 4 ай бұрын
Shaq's reaction to Draymond's response "Who's guarding Kobe? Klay ". I felt off my chair 🤣
@seyiekire4357
@seyiekire4357 4 ай бұрын
Shrek and his donkey together,,,awwwww❤
@abra2842
@abra2842 7 ай бұрын
You ever seen a man go 1v5 and win ?!
@purposeandgoals1189
@purposeandgoals1189 6 ай бұрын
4:33 i said the same thing earlier in the video 😂😂
@TylerRoyMusic
@TylerRoyMusic 7 ай бұрын
Draymond needs to be talking about the season with Kevin Durant. The scoring was nearly unstoppable.
@sniperv
@sniperv 4 ай бұрын
Dray’s crazy, no one guarding Shaq.
@Gabriel-uq4iy
@Gabriel-uq4iy 3 ай бұрын
17 points per quarter coz back then it was physically and mentally hard to play. That's why the nba put so many rules so that the flow of the game today would be smooth.
@Thewrightbrotha
@Thewrightbrotha Ай бұрын
“You get thrown out the game and I’m getting thrown out the game, who’s that hurt worse? Your team.” The warriors had multiple weapons, not just two guys who could really go get buckets. That would’ve been a problem.
@conradhamilton9122
@conradhamilton9122 4 ай бұрын
These guys are very polite about Kobe, he's not in the conversation because he was a low efficiency volume scorer. Shaq answered the question himself when he said they lost in '04 because he didn't get the ball
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