The Complete TERMINATOR Timeline EXPLAINED

[@zacharybaird9236]

To be clear, the Canon date of judgment day is August 29 1997. But it's changed with each film and series, but the true Canon is August of 97

[@rpgmakerbloodytutorials9486]

Its based on the traveler 0 explained it your not actually traveling back in time isn't the timelines past but more a similar timeline basically. Each film is a multiverse of a different time line

[@livingchutoy5422]

There is no, actual, canon date for Judgment Day. The original date, as stated by Reese, only applied to his version of history. That date has happened in several other timelines (namely the Dark Horse Comics and novels), but it is not the defining date. Each time the TDE is used an alternative past (to that future) is created. Terminator Zero explains this and l, basically, justifies both Genesis and Dark Fate along with all the Various Novels, games, and comics. We now have a Terminator Multiverse.

[@jonathanpabon4477]

I like to view judgement day as August of 97 for the vast majority of the known and unknown timelines. However, when Judgment day is averterd it's only delayed and moved forward in time. Making Skynet inevitable and a fixed point in time. And while I didn't like Dark Fate, we can explain this by it being a different timeline/universe in where judgment day still occured but with a different name like Legion instead of Skynet. Still making the concept of robots taking over the world and killing everyone but with a different AI. So now it's up to the writers on how to make war across timelines stop once and for all. And show how in every different timeline Skynet won or loss. Finally giving this series an ending.

[@Plague14]

Why is that the “true canon” date… because it was the first date we saw? Because you say so? If it changes with each film then it clearly doesn’t have a “canon” date… like what 🤦‍♂️

[@FutureDeep]

Maybe Skynet does understand that time travel creates new timelines. Kyle Reese said that Skynet had lost, so maybe time travel was an effort to create a timeline where they won, even if it didn't change the present. Heck, if Skynet could create time travel I bet they could figure out how to merge timelines, especially in a world without humans where they'd be pretty much immortal.

[@Binge_Zone]

That’s kinda where Genisys coulda went. Cause that Skynet came from a different timeline. The T5000

[@SupportGamin2025]

The terminator series should've ended at 3 or salvation. Salvation should've ended with the series coming full circle with John connor sending Kyle reese back in to the 80's to protect his mother(sarah connors) and persevere his future

[@Binge_Zone]

You know what, after watching all them movies. I agree. They should’ve made it a closed timeloop and I think the franchise woulda been cemented as one of the best. Us fans would’ve been able to debate, dissect and theorized forever on it.

[@wIzKid16100]

Yeah in my head canon there’s 4 films and it’s all a loop 🔁. If you look at all 4 movies they basically pick up where the other one left off

[@LeonidSaykin]

I wanted them to write about something different other then always reusing John Connor

[@bossmine3997]

Salvation takes place in 2018 while the war we saw in the first movie was in 2029 but since we didn't get a sequel to salvation we're just gonna have to fill in the blank

[@tjakes8820]

Terminator 2 should have been the last one like as it was intended to be. T3 should have be a prequel to the first movie showing in detail the evens that lead to them sending the first terminator back as well as the reprogrammed T-800 from T2 and the T-1000 it would have to be directed by James Cameron of course

[@joshseane9830]

Terminator Zero may have just saved the Terminator franchise and made all the previous movies much better and make sense. What they did with the animated series was genius. I think we have Avengers End Game to thank for this. Now i want more.

[@FutureDeep]

I thought TZ was just alright. I thought the concept was great but the execution left a lot to be desired.

[@cjc4426]

It’s call string theory. All endgame did was make it popular and dumb it down for our small minds

[@wilberwhateley7569]

I have some serious problems with the time travel element of that series - for one thing, how does the mysterious “prophet” character know anything about how time travel works? By her own admission nothing done in one timeline has any effect on the others, so where is she getting the information on the facts surrounding the time traveling conflict between humans and Skynet from? Secondly, the main protagonist was sent back to stop the Kokoro AI from being activated and the T-800’s objective was to kill the scientist that… Was working on Kokoro so that he couldn’t activate it… This is completely redundant and the series never explained why the protagonist’s existence was required in the first place! And this gets even more ridiculous once you realize that the T-800 came from the building that housed Kokoro’s core in that series’ future - which implies that Skynet already either destroyed or assimilated Kokoro: if Kokoro was already dealt with by Skynet, what purpose did sending the T-800 back serve? The narrative of “Zero” is a mess that raises far more questions that it answers!

[@aidieltaufik9954]

​@@wilberwhateley7569Its simple maybe the terminator is manipulate kenta maybe he being send by skynet or kenta became evil in the future..

[@wilberwhateley7569]

@@aidieltaufik9954 No it’s not that simple - that weird curve ball in the last 10 minutes of the finale raises a lot more questions than it answers.

[@crimcrusader8459]

A 2-way AI war is already bad enough. How about a 3-way AI war of Kokoro vs Legion vs Skynet?

[@hafidzrahman328]

We need Chinese ver AI 😅

[@SA80TAGE]

We need a movie of the original timeline before any timeline hopping started, the original John, who his father was, how he rose to lead the resistance without foreknowledge of Skynet or training.

[@theinspiredmindYT]

Terminator zero is the official now.. Evn if a live action does comes out the So called prophecy Leader John conner will not be there😂

[@SA80TAGE]

@@theinspiredmindYT that still wouldn't be the first timeline though... the first timeline where John wins the war and Skynet invents "time travel". That timeline must have existed to start all of this off.

[@FutureDeep]

What if John Connor's saviour timeline wasn't the first? What if some guy called General Generic-name sent a dude called Kyle Reese back in time to create and train a child capable of beating Skynet, and that is how the John Connor we know is born?

[@atifchy_]

@@SA80TAGE the first timeline doesn't exist, even if it existed, it's lost in time now. everything is a loop now.

[@ronnykeosouriya6641]

Almost like steins gate

[@51075BIGRIGG]

I NEED a season 2 terminator zero. That was one of the best shows I’ve seen in a while.

[@MrMctuck]

The timeline should be: Terminator - Resistance (prequel game) Terminator Terminator 2. The rest is fan fiction.

[@Binge_Zone]

Ive read about the game but never played it

[@kuunami]

6:54 That's a real friend right there.

[@Boricua_User146]

I believe that in Timeline A, John A. Connor's father is a John Doe. When the T 800 and Kyle Resse go back in time they create a new Timeline B, in wich Skynet is created by the T 800's chip and John B. Connor is fathered by Kyle Resse. In 2029, when the events loop again, a copy of Timeline B will be created.

[@Binge_Zone]

I think it’s a closed loop with no start.

[@SA80TAGE]

@@Binge_Zone it can't be a closed loop if every time traveller is travelling to a different timeline though. The original reality would not have had Kyle Reese come back in time, so John HAD to have been fathered by someone else.... and honestly, I'd really love to see THAT timeline and how THAT John became leader of the resistance without any foreknowledge of Skynet or any training from his mother that never went through that experience.

[@pacoracer]

@@Binge_Zoneterminator zero already says that this is not the case my man 🫡

[@sunnyjohnson992]

Kyle was always John’s father because of the photo of Sarah. Kyle has the same exact photo of Sarah that was taken at the end of the film.

[@FutureDeep]

I'll do you one better. Since the Terminator travelled back first that timeline wouldn't have a Kyle Reese, and he'd successfully kill Sarah Connor. The timeline Kyle went to would be the third, one with a Terminator in it that hadn't killed Sarah yet.

[@ChannalWatcher]

I have always thought that Legion is like Skynet's son, it's backup plan if it were ever destroyed.

[@A-0-K-GAMER]

Let's just say terminator one and two with the original ending that got removed is the good timeline

[@3452te]

This is a good video of showing the analogy of the timeline. Now of course original timeline must've ended with Salvation, as we could see it actually lead to the events that we saw in T1 & T2, hence why we didn't see any time machine.

[@Binge_Zone]

Exactly

[@rcmodder]

Salvation is a different timeline from the original. In fact, nothing changes in the original. Skynet and the human resistance send out their terminator and protector, but it doesn't change a thing for them. Whatever happens after, is completely unrelated. All they did was create timeloops and different timelines

[@xis151]

Great vid 🔥

[@dannycervantes2596]

Wow! Great job on this!

[@shanepye7078]

Without exception, every loop or bootstrap paradox has a beginning that will be virtually unknowable by those within the loop, but obvious to those outside the loop. It’s boils down to a line in the first movie. Sarah: Are you saying you’re from the future? Kyle: One possible future. Who’s to say that the story Kyle knows and tells Sarah isn’t the first iteration? I’m betting it’s the second, maybe third. The creation of time travel is the catalyst, but the reasons, the why, is hard to determine without more information.. But John didn’t exist in the primer timeline, that’s for sure.

[@mccbuddytaras6637]

i like the idea of the splitting timelines explaining all the contradictions, changes, and inconsistencies in the franchise. sure it muddies the waters but it really opens up what can be explored. we have to remember the story at it's core is what happens to the world, not just Sarah and John Connor. Zero is a perfect example of this. now the question is are all 13 separate timelines continued on to a massive expanding multiverse, or does each new timeline wipe the others from existence somehow. and how the comics and tv series fit in.

[@rcmodder]

I think each timeline exists on its own merit, undisturbed by the others. Nothing can change them, and trying to go back and do so only creates another branch that may be very similar (T1 and T2) or very different (T3 and Genisys). Each of them are their own timelines where the outcome can never be altered by any other future film.

[@rcmodder]

The terminator movies are just alternate timelines and the birth or death if others because of the choice of the original. It used to annoy me, but when I see them in this light, its just intriguing. Each faction is trying to change events in a vain attempt to alter the present. They're all fun to watch

[@damnt3iktai]

like it or not, terminator zero is the best thing that came out after terminator 2.

[@godkiller6271]

Well, this is my head cannon, but I believe the first timeline is actually the second time line because there should be a timeline where john connor wasn't the resistant leader But Kyle Reese was still sent back. Somehow bumped into Sarah Connor. Still fell in love with her. Got her pregnantand had John Connor from the so-called first timeline, but actually the second timelinethe the first movie.

[@eljosepr10]

My head hurts ☹️

[@rcmodder]

Think of it like this: You decide that you wanted to go back in time 2 weeks to alter the results of your present l. The problem is, things change, but not for your present. You're still stuck with the bad choice or outcome that you don't like. The person you send out or yourself, creates a new timeline that will be completely different from the orignial. Each change or alteration of the past gets similar or crazier. Time travel creates new timelines, but it NEVER changes the original timeline

[@aaronrocs]

Good work. That's a lot to keep track of. 1 was great. 2 was FANTASTIC. 3 would have been awesome in the hands of James Cameron and made a lot sooner with original actors (not that they were bad, but it's distracting, along with the aged Arnold). After that we really get into the weeds

[@ChannalWatcher]

How about an alternated timeline where Skynet is being created in Robocop's world?

[@Atlanta_Cyclist]

12:50 Kate’s dad sent them there, not the T850.

[@HorneJamesHorne79]

I quite like that your voice to me had a bit of a Arnie twang to it.

[@OliverMercer-gr5ks]

🔺️TERMINATOR BATTLE ACROSS TIME🔻 for me is the true T3 in my opinion.

[@alisonsmith4436]

Thank you so much 😊

[@Binge_Zone]

You’re welcome!

[@masterchief5155]

The oracle is not Eiko. The showrunner himself has confirmed this

[@livingchutoy5422]

I thought that, at first, myself when I first watched the series. Then I kept thinking it was too easy and started to not really make sense.anymore. Going back over the episodes and paying attention you get the sense that the Prophet is tied to Eiko, but is a different person entirely. IMO

[@BoogeyManWZM]

@@livingchutoy5422could be raiko

[@CDHfilms]

It's Sarah Connor

[@one_eyeddd473]

How is eiko malcoms mom tho

[@YoStu242]

Sarah Connor Chronicles gives the impression that T-1000 isn't programmed and it's acting on its own free will when resistance asked if it wants to join them.

[@jordansamson6071]

People never say it, but Dyson was a true hero.

[@pRyudo]

He orders him not to kill humans. Not "not to harm humans"

[@erminc1891]

The only timeline that I'm comfort with it is the T1 and T2 timeline. All others are just crap and not worth mentioning

[@draydarockstar362]

The first one I seen was the one where his mama was locked up loved that movie

[@marioguy6486]

Supposedly TSCC is supposed to take place after T2. I haven’t seen it, but from what I’ve gathered, it’s the telling of Sarah raising John to become the leader he is supposed to be.

[@WarriorNoldor]

Now I am wondering what is John Connors role will be in season of Terminator Zero.

[@eljay3390]

There is no "bootstrap paradox"!! Sarah Connor was seeing another man before she met John Connor.. The producers just didn't wanna make Sarah Connor look bad, where this "bootstrap paradox" comes from.. From the movie, it's implied that Sarah and the guy who stood her up had some kinda previous relationship

[@mircari]

We do need another movie to wrap it all up....but masterfully done as T2 Judgement day, so that everything may be set straight from all contradictions from T3 and on.

[@Binge_Zone]

I agree!

[@BluejayStudios334]

question where does the Sarah Corner Chronicles play into this is it no longer canon or in its own timeline or the universal ride T2 battle across time the T800 takes John to the original future of T1- and Malcom's version of the future from Tzero just spit balling here

[@Binge_Zone]

Sarah Connor Chronicles doesn’t really fit into it. It was initially a sequel to T2, but they changed Sarah Connor’s birthday, the changed the way time travel worked. It just became its own thing.

[@sharifwilson44]

Fun fact john conner was in the phone book in the first terminator and yes t3 to terminator salvation to me gave a good timline and should of stopped there terminator genesis gave it a twist in which i liked but had scenes salivation should of had like miles son who grew up and finished what his father started but it was a diff timeline terminator zero was better than i thought and we have Sophia Stewart to thank being she wrote terminator and the matrix as one they go hand and hand look her up to get the full storyline her work was published way before those movies came out

[@Binge_Zone]

I am looking her up right now, and its nuts. I can see how the world of terminator can become that of the matrix

[@tresor.c]

they stole her work. There was a massive lawsuit for it. It's from her book 'the third eye' look it up

[@tmgladden91]

The t850 doesn’t send them to crystal point, Kate’s father does

[@jacobwest7]

John was born february of 85 and its possible terminator said 3 years in a way of counting the current year so 95 96 97. One thing i noticed is that the sarah connor chronicles can't work with this, not only did they change Sarah's birth year, i believe, like t3. On top of that tscc has an episode where derek Reese's actions in the past changes things for his girlfriend in the future and they remember different aspects of the future, showing that tscc is direct time travel

[@Binge_Zone]

That’s why I excluded tscc. It veers too far from the many worlds time loop that the others established.

[@jacobwest7]

@@Binge_Zone yea and tim miller said that dark fate has no other timelines, that time stretches forward and backward but no alternate realities so that completely contradicts what was put out in zero

[@Binge_Zone]

But that would contradict the movie itself, if indeed the movie is a direct sequel to the first two. In the first terminator. Reese tells Sarah about the existence of alternate timelines

[@martinluscombe1346]

TERMINATOR : 1984 : TERMINATOR 2 : 1994 : John Conner Normally 9 years Old but possible 12/13 29th August 1997 : Judgement Day (also Princess Dianas Car Crash/Death 31st August 1997) TERMINATOR 3 : 2004 : Sarah Conner Dead 7 Years , ashes scattered in Mexico. 25th July 2004 : 6.18pm, Judgement Day October 2017 : Judgement Day , Genesis, from T5 TERMINATOR 4 : 2018 : John Conner Alive, Kyle Reese BEFORE T1 TERMINATOR Genesis : Sarah Conner Alive, TERMINATOR : Dark Fate : Original Sarah Conner Alive, John Conner from T2 Killed in 1998 2020 : Terminator to Kill Danny TERMINATOR Zero : 2022, : Cartoon Type film Nothing to do with other films. LA 2029 : John Conner Alive 2032 : Kate sent Terminator to protect her & John in T3 2042 : & I thought BACK TO THE FUTURE films are confusing with there timelines.

[@TheOtherwisers]

Terminator zero better have Arnold or I’m gonna pull a terminator 1 police scene

[@R3nHoëk]

It's now 2025 and we are 4 years away from AI taking over and erasing humanity. Currently AI is in its infancy but the ball is rolling and advancing down hill quite quickly. I hate to say it but this movie while being just entertainment, has inadvertently possibly become a prophecy for humanity's fate.

[@pauhy5601]

@The Binge Zone,If Skynet never sent a Terminator after Sarah in the 80's& that shows Kyle had no reason to follow it to the past to stop the machine's goal of elimitnating her in the first place,then that ensures John's birth/existance to go up against them? Stupid machine mistake by helping the human's side against themself?.

[@davidrohde2636]

Ok but how in the original timeline was John born? Like the first time!

[@mrs.ebaltazar2634]

Old woman is not eco is sarah

[@ChannalWatcher]

Is Kukoro a good A.I. or not?

[@Binge_Zone]

She’s still undecided.

[@ChannalWatcher]

@Binge_Zone I thought after the death of her creator, she'd finally learned. Teaching an A.I. the goodness of humanity in such a short amount of time must have been very, very stressful for him. I think he should have done more work. Misaki, she did seem more friendly to humans before her memories got messed with. Plus, she is a more interesting good terminator.

[@Binge_Zone]

She is still holding the humans hostage with her Inno robots. I agree he should’ve spent more time with the Misaki. She was kinder and more understanding

[@ChannalWatcher]

@Binge_Zone Best way to teach an A.I. the goodness of humanity is to make it think it's human and give it a life of a human best teacher who is experience after all

[@ChannalWatcher]

What if in season 2, we get a cybernetic super soldier like Grace from Legion's timeline?

[@adamm.6595]

The joke of the franchise isn't about trying to save humanity, it is about Skynet not accepting it cannot change the outcome, the future is set. Mankind will always win. From WARGAMES, JOSHUA "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."

[@wgarcia2001]

I think they need to stop the john connor storyline and do more of what terminator zero did, storylines taking place in the universe

[@Binge_Zone]

I agree. Makes it much more interesting

[@carmelosgro6413]

Do more Terminator stuff

[@Binge_Zone]

Got a ranking video coming out soon

[@sisandamatomela3272]

only organic matter can time travel by the T-800 has a metalic endoskeleton...mhhh...major plothole there...

[@sasgarbage7482]

I disagree from the start, if terminator didn't go in a timeline John's father was who? Now that I know that doctor reappeared how the heck did he not believe after the first movie Kokoro bro it's kokoro

[@jordansamson6071]

Should’ve just stopped after T2

[@sasgarbage7482]

In X-Men also days of future present same thing, no development in their own future

[@Binge_Zone]

I thought at the end Logan changed it all

[@harry-duongchivy7172]

​@@Binge_Zone Techniquely, he didn't though because he still became Weapon X but I can be wrong. Man, we should stop this multiversal franchises and end them like for real😅

[@blakegonzales4882]

T2 was the last movie they stop judgment day there wasn’t supposed be other movies

[@madhavmandava]

All this time travel changes really is getting to my brain it's so yikes.....Avengers, dragon Ball Z(parallel future trunks)..... somehow manages to keep some stuff simple.....yet still complex.....still godd job trying to keep it simple as possible

[@redtreestimeline8960]

22:25 bro looks like Dhar Mann

[@ryuusaki7309]

What about the Sara Conner chronicles bro?

[@Binge_Zone]

Since it changed too many things I excluded it. In that timeline Sarah Connor has a different birthday.

[@tjakes8820]

John Connor was born in 1985 not 84 and T2 takes place in 1995.

[@Binge_Zone]

T2 takes place 10 years after Termitator 1. According to the movie Sarah and T800

[@tjakes8820]

John Connor was conceived may 1984 and born feb 1985 T2 takes place 10 years after John was born

[@bobjohnson6926]

I'm actually,You left out the TV series

[@Binge_Zone]

Sarah Connor chronicles. Its deals with a linear timeline outside of these shared timelines. They even changed her birth year in the show.

[@bobjohnson6926]

Right off the bat you got it wrong John Connor wouldn't even be born unless skynet sent his dad back so we're missing a timeline already.

[@Binge_Zone]

It’s a variation of a closed time loop. The first movie would be the one we start to count since there’s no real beginning

[@The-Gate-House-Grognard]

There is a real beginning. In the very first timeline John's dad is unknown, and skynet was a US defense project. Kyle Reese was just the only guy John knew who was badass enough to fight a T-800 naked. So the first movie is the second iteration already. When the T-800 runs down the phone book, he may have killed the true sarah, and the current sarah names her kid John, who is now not even the same person from the original timeline, and the rest is history.

[@pinkbrain4064]

How did you know Aiko is the prophet?

[@Binge_Zone]

Malcolm told her when he was dying

[@jahsonlevi8356]

If this is the full timeline then why didn’t you include the Matrix movies?

[@Binge_Zone]

Gotta get the details for the in between time

[@rodrigosanchespires3793]

If "only organic matter can travel" then how come the terminator travels in the first place?

[@Binge_Zone]

That’s why they put the human skin over them. The humanoid organic material covers the terminators.

[@livootherworld5756]

​@@Binge_Zonehow about the T-1000?

[@aopbrij]

Terminator movies -6 Timelines- 13😂

[@deralbtraumritter8573]

Dark Fate isn’t canon even if he says it is… since both those jokes shot that canon out a cannon…

[@philippineidiottv5836]

KOKORO*

[@Binge_Zone]

Thx

[@whatupdude96]

😮

[@priyabratmajhi291]

Japan created kukoro holly shit

[@rcinematic]

Anyone here got Facebook and sees that Sarah Conor love making face meme posts?

[@aopbrij]

Bro when did Terminator zero came?😂

[@Binge_Zone]

lol. On Netflix 3 weeks ago

[@offshorecomedy]

Koroko Kokoro

[@evilhobocheeky1280]

Dark Fate sucked ass

[@Binge_Zone]

lol. Grace fight with Rev 9 was awesome though

[@Nitsuga123]

John could be 10 kids were cooler back then lol

[@LONELY-VISUAL]

But where did you hear these things, it's not true at all

[@cybersoldierforever]

This timeline is so messed up.

[@chains2660]

Genisys and salvation is not in the same timeline( best keep it that way.) salvation was a sequel to the rise of machine, while Genisys was a dumb reimagining made by a dumbass.

[@raycoe2927]

Lol

[@RecreationalValue-gk8jt]

Why the f^7k did they decide to have any of the crap sequels canon to the Zero series.

[@Binge_Zone]

They decided to make it all canon.

[@jacobwest7]

Look at it this way, thanks to terminator zero changing the time travel rules, the events of t2 could easilly result in the happy 2029 future where John is a senator, every version of t3 is different from that t2 timeline

[@ivanyudaji]

Ko ko ro not ko ro ko hehe

[@Binge_Zone]

lol. My bad 😅

[@ivanyudaji]

@Binge_Zone it was a great summarized video!

[@Binge_Zone]

@ivanyudaji 🙏🏾 thank you

[@Qreekachannel]

It was mid and why is everything a anime now

[@kmoore506]

Annoying Voice

[@davemccombs]

lol every youtuber racing to explain terminator's timeline