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@InsomniacTC15 күн бұрын
But you didn't answer the real question. Did Horus start the Heresy by ucking up the blunt rotation?
@nopejhonson95815 күн бұрын
So what you are saying is... horus is the Kamala Harris of politicians
@Horus-Lupercal15 күн бұрын
Raid? That's really disappointing.
@mynameisfart770715 күн бұрын
Nice American Psycho reference
@marsfreelander596915 күн бұрын
After big *E* soul blasted Horus out of the the materium and inmaterium his new tittle became *"Horus the POROUS"*
@Paul-A0115 күн бұрын
Personally I just wouldn't have named my son "Horus Heresy". Kind of a bad move
@reallybig486815 күн бұрын
Helly hansen was trademarked still
@fedefyr15 күн бұрын
Well he was the son of John Warhammer
@whysogrim69715 күн бұрын
His name is actually "The" Horus Heresy
@georgereevesjr828915 күн бұрын
Still a better name than Angron. He called his shot on that one
@mistertaz9415 күн бұрын
@@whysogrim697He can't be THE Horuse Heresy! Ohio State University has the "The" part trademarked!
@Dallows6515 күн бұрын
"...if you're majorkill: because he was bald" I welcome the Majorkill slander, as a long time watcher of his.
@jeffreydrake585114 күн бұрын
You do realize Mr. Bones is follicly challenged as well? There may be a small bit of bias in his opinion.
@Dallows6513 күн бұрын
@@jeffreydrake5851 I don't care? Lol, anyone talking trash about Majorshill is funny to me.
@Whydoesthishappen11 күн бұрын
Why is majorkill disliked?
@Dallows6511 күн бұрын
@@Whydoesthishappen i don’t dislike him. I think he’s a shill, and I like a lot of his content. I am also just a purveyor of trash talk.
@Whydoesthishappen11 күн бұрын
@@Dallows65 Oohhh ok. Yeah I’m new to the community as of late. So I was confused.
@akuinator635015 күн бұрын
"I don't think anyone had a bad opinion of Horus." That sound you hear in the background is Corax's "I told you so".
@mistertaz9415 күн бұрын
If you listen even closer you can hear Lion El'Johnson scoffing and Vulkan raising his eyebrow in suspicion.
@andrewfornes532015 күн бұрын
That is one of the reasons the RG are my favorite in 30k. Corvus knew he was a POS.
@wikipediaintellectual708812 күн бұрын
Lion El' Jonson is basically the Perturabo to Horus' Rogal Dorn.
@Psyker_Unredactus12 күн бұрын
@@andrewfornes5320 Corvus knew he had no sense of self.
@mcspooky818015 күн бұрын
Horus is such a sad character cuz in the end no one wants to remember him. all chaos marines hate him, all loyalists hate him he will never be forgotten but never remembered
@jakewu826815 күн бұрын
Yeah 😢
@Book_worm.7515 күн бұрын
Horus was told by the chaos gods that the emperor stole their power and lied to his sons about it. He stole the power to keep his hair luxurious, silky, long, and beautiful. Horus wanted this power, for he had gone bald, so he convinced 5/6 of his bald brothers that if he wins and takes the throne, he will give them all hair as beautiful and as silky as their father. He further convinced his 3 brothers that had hair that they would go bald the emperor would never share his secret to his hair. But Horus, upon facing the emperor, saw the folly of his ways and saw that the chaos gods lied to him. There was no cure to male pattern baldness, and they were using him. Upon realizing this, he gave up and chose to die a bald man rather live as man who will be known for his fake hair that he received via transplant from the chaos gods.
@nasirmonger976915 күн бұрын
10 out of 10 beautiful story.😢
@stoops18715 күн бұрын
Everything is canon
@nooneatall183015 күн бұрын
He convinced Curze by telling him that one day, his glorious grisly locks would fall off too one day and Curze saw a vision of it happening, so he agreed to help Horus steal the Emepror's secret formula for his long lucious locks
@paulelephant95216 күн бұрын
He saw the follicle of his ways, I'll see myself out :)
@simeonhodge569215 күн бұрын
As Horus once said "Warmaster. The title is heavy around my neck. Horus, Lupercal, father, son, friend, enemy all are lost beneath the weight of that word."
@Sabrina0s15 күн бұрын
Horus "Bateman" lupercal
@WhiteGlint87115 күн бұрын
What the sigmar
@patmann936315 күн бұрын
He had some videos to return.
@daverage472915 күн бұрын
He's pissed because Sanguinius had nicer business cards then he did.
@braxtongrundy462511 күн бұрын
Lol
@JonathanNormandy8 күн бұрын
I read that as Batman
@Cole._.Trainn15 күн бұрын
“ or if you’re a major kill because he was bald” I wish he wasn’t part of my introduction into Warhammer. I have so much stuff to unlearn because of him.
@fosphor892013 күн бұрын
Gotta get those books, also the Dawn of War video games somehow captured the spirit of the universe in my opinion! Can't go wrong with the new Space Marine 2 either.
@Sokrates_15 күн бұрын
4:14 past RAID shadow lagend
@InsomniacTC15 күн бұрын
Thank you
@Briggattonii15 күн бұрын
🫡
@Tr3yTra710r15 күн бұрын
You’re doing the Emperor’s work.
@Just_Daisho13 күн бұрын
Thanks bro
@tufo630613 күн бұрын
🫡🫡🫡
@kaitracksmalgom15 күн бұрын
nah man he totally betrayed the imperium because the emperor wouldn’t give him hair treatments
@Paul-A0115 күн бұрын
" I never wanted this. I never wanted to lose my hair. To unleashed my follicles. But you stole hair from the gods and lied to your sons!"
@pancakes867013 күн бұрын
Why is this giving me Deja Vu
@mummola236315 күн бұрын
I thought the sponsor was a joke He has fallen....
@Ironbattlemace15 күн бұрын
Ne antaa niin vitusti rahaa että en yhtään ihmettele.
@Stellar_8215 күн бұрын
Don't blame the player, blame the game :/
@TheBoneZone40k15 күн бұрын
Shit you right
@thegodemperorofmankind702915 күн бұрын
@@TheBoneZone40kcan’t blame a player for making dough get your bread pimp
@onoderarintaro517915 күн бұрын
let my man get that bread
@dlemon754715 күн бұрын
Horus at one point mentioned that the only other Primarch that knew war as well as he did was Ferrus Manus. Horus thought that, with Ferrus, Terra would have been broken in a week at most. This is why I think Ferrus was also a serious contender for warmaster.
@123ssecret15 күн бұрын
Sanguinius as well, who commanded the respect of every other Primarch and was capable of mediating disputes
@Graymeyne15 күн бұрын
I thought he said that about both Manus and Guilliman? For Warfare yes. As for the matter of Bobby G being a warmaster, no because Horus said G-man wants to forget waging war all the same.
@braxtongrundy462511 күн бұрын
Imo he said Ferrus because he was unrelenting in his resolve and would what was necessary to win. But imo Ferrus isn’t as well rounded as Horus/Girlman/Lion
@Ruggedtoaster15 күн бұрын
You have to love the way some 40k fans hate subtext and will quote Alpharius as a reputable source of information in a book that he also literally opens by stating that he is lying to you. The audience. Or treat deeply corrupted Horus a reliable narrator when he has already been shown to be deceiving himself or being unreliable. Love that you can see past the literal and I really enjoyed the Primarch series.
@24fretsoffury14 күн бұрын
How did Alpharius learn his spy-craft, if not from the Emperor and Malcador, the literal “spymaster”? I haven’t gotten around to the Primarch novels yet, but everything Alpha Legion says, is meant to confuse. You only know something about them, since they want you to think that. Think about it outside of their words, how did Alpharius learn his trade to such a massive extent and had secret information from the Emperor? Alpharius and Omegon knew about Chaos long before many did. Like most of Alpha Legion shenanigans, it doesn’t add up and likely a mix of truth and lies. Discounting that Alpharius was not near or on Terra just because he said he was lying is excusing the facts of his training and knowledge.
@Ruggedtoaster14 күн бұрын
@ sure but there’s a problem with your line of reasoning, you’re assuming that there is only one source in the universe, capable of providing information and knowledge when we know for a fact, there’s not. It’s not how knowledge or the spread of information work in general and in specific in this universe, you have the cabal and the other perpetuals who could’ve provided at least some if not the majority of the information. Never mind the fact that I’m sure a few years good old James will find a reason to rewrite a different slightly more disappointing reason as to where they got the information from.
@MarkusJackDijkgraaf14 күн бұрын
The lie in the beginning refers to the speaker. Omegon is talking, so that's the lie.
@Ruggedtoaster14 күн бұрын
@ cool beans, does that make him a reliable narrator?
@MarkusJackDijkgraaf14 күн бұрын
@@Ruggedtoaster of course not. But Alpharius himself says that a lie clad in truths is most effective. But with the Alpha Legion the lie can be the ends itself, not only the means.
@lshackelford417515 күн бұрын
15 minutes ago?! Last time I was this early there were still 20 Primarc- *gets psy-body-slammed by Malcador*
@mprojekt7215 күн бұрын
I often wonder what Horus was feeling when it clicked in his head that on two different occasions, Leman came home to hand a soggy, gift-wrapped box, large enough to contain a Primarch head, to Uncle Malcador, and received head-pats from Daddy Emps.
@gringlebandersnatch15 күн бұрын
Leman deffo didnt kill 2 or 11 from what all sources indicate
@Shadowoftheoldones15 күн бұрын
It is telling that the thing Chaos showed Horus to put him over the edge was a future Imperium where the Emperor was worshipped as a god, while he was absent. I never see people comparing Horus and Perturabo, but both seem highly aggrieved by the recognition they don't think they are getting.
@andrewfornes532015 күн бұрын
Corvus Corax sworn off working with him when he used the RG as infantry instead of what they were made for. I can't remember 100% but I think it got so hostile that Leman had to calm Corvus down.
@LinkiePup15 күн бұрын
As a Son of Horus player in Heresy, I relate to being that social chameleon, to having expectations placed on you that you can’t ever live up to, and the constant thought of “I wanna die, but let’s play the long game out.” Mental illness is a bitch. But even after all of that, I have a one up on Horus Borus: I am happy. Because that’s the other thing: HORUS IS A BUMMER!!
@budderk130515 күн бұрын
I thought you would say "because I have a head full of luscious hair"
@etinarcadiaego742415 күн бұрын
I feel the same.
@anon242712 күн бұрын
Can’t respect that at all
@sanguinius_yt15 күн бұрын
Such a great character destroyed by memes. Pre corrupted Horus is the best primarch imo.
@filipnassen907615 күн бұрын
Nah. Vulkan is best boi.
@sanguinius_yt15 күн бұрын
@ Pre heresy even Vulkan would say he was the best 😂
@filipnassen907615 күн бұрын
@@sanguinius_yt Of course he wouldn't. Vulkan would not claim to be better than anyone else.
@sanguinius_yt15 күн бұрын
@@filipnassen9076 I’m saying Vulkan would even say Horus is the best of them.
@filipnassen907615 күн бұрын
@@sanguinius_yt And that's one of the reasons Vulkan is da best boi.
@potatortheomnipotentspud15 күн бұрын
Horus: Say, Brother Sanguinius, would like to hear a joke? Sanguinius: Pray tell, Brother Horus. Horus: Knock knock. Sanguinius: Who's there? Horus: Heresy. Sanguinius: Heresy...........who? Horus: Bet you didn't HereSEE this one coming!!!! *(bonk)*
@stoops18715 күн бұрын
Outstanding
@Revan_66th15 күн бұрын
I think Alpharius was definitely found first, it just makes sense. The blood games really sealing it for me
@gerald21615 күн бұрын
Or was it Omegon? The world will never know
@jaredwilliams235715 күн бұрын
@@gerald216My money is Omegon was found first
@wompastompa369211 күн бұрын
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie." -Omegon
@Eleven21714 күн бұрын
Idk, I always prefered the original vision of who and what Horus was like with Horus Rising. The dude who is being asked by his creator to be ruthless, but has the kindness and charisma to try for a more peaceful route, even if he is sabotaged or fails in that process. His fall is more tragic that way. I'd like to compare it to the original Tau, that of "good intentions being grimdark by the tragedy of a universe that doesn't give a chance to do what's right".
@kallyomega892515 күн бұрын
His interactions with Malcador also tell us a lot about his character. That fear of being replaced, not being enough. Just a tool, it truly cut him deep.
@ramblingratling521215 күн бұрын
I just finished reading False Gods, the book in which the battle on Davin's plague moon takes place. I got the impression that Temba's ship had actually crashed into the moon and was acting as a daemonic beacon for the plaguebearers and poxwalkers.
@edim10815 күн бұрын
In the End of Death it is pretty much 100% confirmed that Horus WAS the first Primarch found so surprise surprise, Alpharius was full of shit in his Primarch book.
@Doribi11715 күн бұрын
I mean he does say "I am Alpharius, this is a lie" as sort of an opening line, so kind of makes sense that he lied.
@MaDmanex10015 күн бұрын
Not according to the alpharius focused book where the emperor found alpharius on tera after the scattering. Though he wasnt officially"found" like any other primarch.
@MarkusJackDijkgraaf14 күн бұрын
@@Doribi117that's because Omegon is speaking in the beginning. It's not that complicated.
@azeria114 күн бұрын
I mean if alpha was still on terra he wouldn't really need to be found that's like finding your child in your back garden
@MaDmanex10013 күн бұрын
@@azeria1 yes he was Lucky. Though he was kept hidden and such was his legion. Often disguised as other Chapters until they revealed themselves.
@djashovel15 күн бұрын
I think If we got a show on the heresy, I think it would at least have ten or twelve seasons, and It would be animated And of course, Narrated by Trazyn
15 күн бұрын
I hope it is animated, I'd easy watch 25 seasons based on the books
@Titleknown15 күн бұрын
Tbh, I think the ideal adaptation would either be a Vanillaware game in the style of something like Odin Sphere, or a live performed opera that takes literal days to perform and has a budget larger than the gdp of some small nations.
@wolfgangervin258215 күн бұрын
Kinda like how Legend of the Galactic Heroes is narrated by a historian throughout the series.
@stoops18715 күн бұрын
@@wolfgangervin2582such a good show
@thatotherguy813815 күн бұрын
Q: "WTF happened to get us to where we ended up?" A: Erebus. Sigh. I know, I know. I hate it too. But Erebus is the one who stole the Anathane blade, ending any possibility of working with the Interex. (It probably would have broken down anyway, but Erebus took even the possibility away) Erebus gave the blade to the Governor on Davan (and I believe was the source of the corruption on the planet). Then Erebus was the one who publicly goaded Horus into personally leading the attack against all of the advice of his Mourneval. Then it was Erebus who convinced Abbadon and Aximand to bring Horus down to the planet to be healed. Then Erebus was the one who went into Horus' mind while he was being "healed" in the Temple. Every G/D step of the way in the actual fall of Horus was Erebus pushing him. There's no way around it except to say maybe it was Lorgar manipulating Erebus. But even if it wasn't Erebus' idea, it was the actions taken by Erebus that caused it all. It's probably the one thing I would absolutely change in the 40k lore because I would VASTLY prefer that Horus was to rebel FIRST and reach out to Chaos when he failed because I think your characterization of him is excellent and would very easily lead him to fall on his own. Like imagine that the High Lords of Terra decided to try to Censure Angron or Kurze - but bypassed Horus entirely. Imagine if Horus was denied the resources he required because he hadn't set up a proper imperial tax system on several planets, and the High Lords decided to fight him with Bureaucracy. Imagine if Horus himself was censured because the High Lords disagreed with how he was prosecuting the Crusade. Imagine if Malcador decided to support the High Lords - because the Emperor did want the Imperium to be controlled by human hands, according to Malcador. Imagine Horus realizing that the Emperor was going to do to the Lunar Wolves what he did to the Thunder Warriors because the Lunar Wolves have no place in peace time - even Perturabo's legion has a place in peace time, but his legion, and Angrons, and Mortarions, and Russ's, and so many others have nothing to offer the Imperium but war. So he starts to plan ways to take over the Imperium in order to protect his Sons... but when he launches his rebellion, he fails. And instead of admitting he's in the wrong, when he's at his lowest, when he's on the run, he listens to Lorgar when Lorgar says "Where do you think Father acquired the power to make us, Brother...? Imagine if you had that power..."... what would the Horus as you've described do in a situation like that?
@Doribi11715 күн бұрын
I think it is fair to say that Erebus would have done that with or without Lorgar giving the order, Erebus was an asshole who wanted to torture and destroy things, and since the Emperor favored this one guy and he really seemed to have a desire to torture that particular scorpion (his words)it would make sense to use whatever methods he could to cause some chaos, after all he was the one who manipulated Lorgar into turning towards Chaos too, with the help of Cor Pharon.
@nazarasaid864515 күн бұрын
Horus was the most tragic primarch. Not because his life was horrible, but because he was one the most humble, likeable and charismatic primarchs. And his fall was probably the most hurtful one of all the traitor primarchs.
@wahbegan4 күн бұрын
"I don't think there was anybody who had a bad opinion of Horus" *ANGRY RAVEN NOISES*
@spugggaldon36113 күн бұрын
I like the concept that Horus is simultaneously an empty shell of a character and someone so charismatic everyone loves them. The fact that they do this willingly simply to manipulate people into liking them in order to get what they want is brilliant. It's Machiavellian to the core. An absolute pure version of it. And it wreaks of Horus.
@jeanpierrepolnareff235612 күн бұрын
11:50 you are mostly correct but corvus corax despised him even at that point
@michaelstevens571214 күн бұрын
I don't want to spoil it for you, but there's some *extremely* underdiscussed stuff in The End and The Death that straightens out Horus's characterization inconsistencies. It's one of the coolest things in the series and I've literally never heard anyone talk about it. Abnett lands that plane.
@axellenhart789013 күн бұрын
30:20 I think Sanguinius would have been one of the best choices for chaos. Mostly because how he was loved by basicly everyone including almost all his brothers (I think only Angron and Kurze didn't like him) and how powerful his legion was. Like imagine Sanguinius who is already a monster in combat being blessed by all four chaos gods
@GodEmperorofmankind115 күн бұрын
THAT TRAGEDY OF THE WARMASTER IS COMPARABLE TO THAT OF SANGINOUS.😢
@Artemicion32115 күн бұрын
I guess you could say that the false order Horus passed on to Russ to start the burning of Prospero was the start of the Horus Hearsay.
@billwilliams211615 күн бұрын
Bro, you just got information wrong at 23:33. Temba's ship isn't orbiting the moon of Davin. It crashed on the moon of Davin. Horus and his legion meet with Erebus on Davin, Erebus basically baits Horus to go to the moon of Davin. He does and leads his forces despite warnings from Loken. When they arrive to the actual remains of the ship, he splits his forces and on the way to the bridge of the ship, gets separated from his men and later arrives to the command bridge and sees the chaos tainted Eugan Temba, duels him and is stabbed with the anathame. Summarizing yes but this is what actually happens.
@Hal-Embers15 күн бұрын
I feel like we need a Erebus video too, fun fact: Erebus never really was Erebus.
@galacor13 күн бұрын
"Remembrancers were half politician, half journalist, half historian" Boy I hope someone got fired for that blunder
@darknessml61456 күн бұрын
Horus is just a more human emeperor: Corrupt by warp powers, manipulative, and very separated from the human condition and anybody else that could be by his side. Thats why i like him as a foil to big E.
@oogskskfn15 күн бұрын
Happy late birthday bones, the start of your channel coincided with my own entrance into learning about 40k so I really appreciate you sticking it out! Thankful for your work! Glad to be rotating on this planet listening to this and using it to get other people into the fandom.
@UserRedZero11 күн бұрын
Idea: There’s no Erebus, and Horus creates a peaceful unification with the Interex and the Imperium, aliens included. The Emperor hears this, and commands Horus “kill all them aliens”. Horus says but one thing: “No.” A wholly new take on the Horus Heresy, without chaos as the motivation or catalyst for it.
@thalastianjorus15 күн бұрын
"I don't think any of the Primarchs had a bad opinion of Horus." Corvus flat out disliked Horus on every level.
@koichidignitythief74292 күн бұрын
Angron and Konrad just hated everyone
@METAsMETAs13 күн бұрын
Going through the early 30k books right now and I’m loving Horus
@NapGod15 күн бұрын
I think you nailed it with Horus being a social chameleon - almost like a sociopath driven by upholding his image among his peers and his dad. I also think Abnett sets this up well in the first book with what Horus ruminates upon in his private moments, and he brings that manipulative social chameleon nature home in the hardest way by the end of the siege.
@JHattsy15 күн бұрын
Am I enjoying the longer form videos? damn right I am. I love the pacing far more than the short form, everything feels perfectly explained to enough of a degree that it's easy to follow and makes sense.
@rev.seanhandcock237913 күн бұрын
This was a fascinating character study. I never saw Horus from this point of view, but once you laid it out it was so obvious and for me at least very relatable. I’m loving the whole series so keep them coming!
@J.Panxer15 күн бұрын
Horus was at least brave enough to have the courage of his convictions. For good or ill, he at least did more walk than talk. More than he can say for his brothers. Supposedly he even knew what the emperor had in store for the astartes after the union was complete. He knew what had happened to the Thunder Warriors, and chaos told him what the emperor had stolen in order to even get off the ground. So at least Horus was consistent.
@leodhasw-s373913 күн бұрын
People ask "who is Horus", "what is Horus" but never "how is Horus"...probably would have avoided a lot of grief if they had
@bazig207013 күн бұрын
I was having a bad day. Your vids tend to cheer me up a bit. One thing that skewered my brain was the splash of American Psycho. Perfect fit...and the delivery was smooth as fuck. I tip my hat to you, sir. Keep up the good work.
@Captain-Thievius15 күн бұрын
Horus: What happened to Primarchs 2 and 11 and their legions? Malcador: * *Force Chokes Horus* * There is no such thing as 2 and 11. The Emperor has decreed that such numbers don’t even exist. Telltale Games: Horus will remember that.
@dragondarcy894315 күн бұрын
1:26 Erebus oh wait this is a video about Horus
@adamchapman863214 күн бұрын
I think Horus needs a little more elbow grease on his reasoning for the heresy but I like the idea of him doing in spite of his father because he found out about the thunder warriors and feared him and his brothers would meet the same fate.
@sirsavagethe21st56Күн бұрын
Mr. Horse lubricant was a traitor who wanted the warhammer 40k
@secutorprimus12 күн бұрын
Horus is a representation of all of the Emperor's failures and faults as a leader, distilled into a beloved politician, a perfectly charismatic husk with absolutely nothing within his soul. The Imperium's fall was inevitable, because Horus was inevitable, or at least something like Horus. The Emperor's plans were unsustainable, and doomed to damn humanity from the outset. The Emperor claimed to desire peace, but in truth, he could not envision a future for humanity that involved such a concept. That any individual, or any action, could be rendered down as part of some grand plan to "unite humanity" at any cost is perfectly reflected in Horus' own personal issues. He was an unblemished tool, but was ultimately stagnant, and unable to truly exist as a person. How can an entity like that "unite" anyone, in the end? After the dazzling show is over? The fate of empires is to fall, and in tying all of humanity to the success of a single State, and that state's success to the actions of a handful of demigods, the Emperor excised all of the adaptability that had previously allowed humans to survive hardship. Anathema, indeed...
@zeroturtle-bu7zb15 күн бұрын
Random Majorkill catching a stray right there
@garryame400815 күн бұрын
It's such a bummer we didn't get much of Horus before getting stabbed with the Athame. He seemed really compelling
@gordianknot526015 күн бұрын
Recently I find myself thinking about how Horus was the only primarch who was ever HUMAN, due to his unique awakening of his primarch stature on Cthonia.
@gsantos70815 күн бұрын
With my unwieldly levels of procrastination, I am so glad I found your Channel as it helped me continue the stream of 40K vids to continue playing in the background so I can keep myself in the painting mood. Good Work!
@helmetsandhandgrenades563612 күн бұрын
The American Psycho quote caught me off guard
@lukeblack397715 күн бұрын
Finally Horus gets the glaze he deserves. He is my favorite primarch before all others. Unfortunately his turn to chaos has many many loopholes and it results into him getting hoed by memes. He was the most beloved son of the Emperor, Warmaster of the Imperium, Lord of the 16th Legion, and mankind personified, and he is reduced to “haha soul erase.” I am a bit hesitant about the new lore regarding him that might have him return, but his final conversation with his dad before they each went silent still brings tears to my eyes.
@spnked951613 күн бұрын
Horus will likely be brought back. In my opinion, GW is working 40k towards it's very own End Times event, and they're using the return of each Primarch to count down to it and justify it. Like with AoS, this post-End Times 40k will be used to turn the IP into a nebulous sandbox so GW can ignore the prior framework, essentially allowing them to make and sell whatever they want.
@LordTzeentch15 күн бұрын
Chaos had plans for the greatest son to fall. Tzeentch had schemes to turn the most gifted son to turn against the father that wanted him to stop. Just as Tzeentch foresaw.
@arthuryu829811 күн бұрын
From listening to this as a casual lore enjoyer, I can only understand that Horus is a poser. He tried to become whatever was wanted of him, to gain favor with others, to gain power over others, but he never fully could because of his own personal morals and pride getting in the way. I call horus a poser not because he kept being a chameleon to get what he wanted but because that is exactly what the emperor did. The emperor took on the role wanted by whoever spoke to him: warrior king, tyrannical mad scientist, god savior. It didn't matter the master of mankind did what had to be done to further his goals. This was something horus could never really do. The emperor threw away morals and pride for the sake of his goals but horus never really could. That's why I think he was arrogant, he wanted his way and could never really deal with things going awry. That's why he needed the mournival, even though he supposedly manipulated them to agree with him anyway, he needed people to temper his viewpoint on things. Even if they couldn't show him his viewpoint is wrong, they could help him shift his own viewpoint in his head. Then again I haven't read the books so this is all conjecture on my part.
@jakolisfinard698814 күн бұрын
The moment you said “Raid Shado-“ it got cut of with a Tacticus ad lol
@xxYoanxx115 күн бұрын
Love these videos, this is definitely my favorite one of the Primarch series, thanks a lot for the great content
@LutherMahoney15 күн бұрын
People are going to shit their pants when he comes back
@trajanfidelis15 күн бұрын
7:44 Good thing reality doesn't care about your wrong opinions. Hydra Dominatus
@bradnorris739615 күн бұрын
Horus was never going to win the war. He wasn't supposed to. If chaos actually wanted to win they would have chosen Sanguinius as their champion. Because while everyone liked Horus, everyone LOVED Sanguinius
@Grubnar15 күн бұрын
Chaos tried, but failed, to recruit Sanguinius.
@supershyguy147615 күн бұрын
I’d like to see that theory about Be’lakor you mentioned once. Maybe he was once someone like Horus?
@teezzmegee97214 күн бұрын
It's simple...he's the warhammer 40k
@braxtongrundy462510 күн бұрын
6:52 Horus was founded very early he didn’t influence Cthonia but he was there long enough to appreciate the culture! He was literally the only Primarch raised by the Emperor! You have some lore inaccuracies!
@darianmonaghan492014 күн бұрын
You know I never really thought of Horus that way. That's a really cool way of looking at it. Great video
@mathieugervais5019 күн бұрын
Hey mister bones I haven't seen u in half a year forgive me can't wait to watch ur videos again
@Jurgen_Wulf15 күн бұрын
I thought RAID ended long time ago, like Horus Heresy, but be prepared here it comes again
@kingz807515 күн бұрын
Nice video. I love these long videos because as a cook I usually just turn on a video and get to work so this is great. Also happy birthday 🎂
@gavinvick359212 күн бұрын
Oh no. Raid got our boy, not even the Emporer can save him now…
@MrShady209915 күн бұрын
i might be missing something, but im curious on why you say that interex and samus are what broke horus. in my mind, in the books, he kind of had a sudden, immediate and radical shift when he was sent for healing after being stabbed with the blade. it was kind of sudden and irrational. i can remember him being kind of... slow? hesitant? with his speech to loken, but i cant recall an instance where the interex had anything to do with it. he was pissed, and wished everything was resolved peacefully, but it being one of the reasons for his downfall for chaos?
@danteAysen14 күн бұрын
So Horus is Kamala Harrys, with the accent thing?
@bloodkip946214 күн бұрын
Exactly like that. Though politicians have been doing that shit forever.
@anonimowe_konto_yt15 күн бұрын
23:24 Temba's ship wasn't actually orbiting the moon of davin it was crushed into it and horus led his astartes on the moon not on the ship in orbit. The final confrontation with Temba ocured in the destroyed ship. Also sons of horus or horus himself didnt beam on to the moon, they were deployed by aircraft and droppods.
@Dragonagegearsofhalo13 күн бұрын
Happy belated Birthday dude! Love your work hope it was fun!
@todders55915 күн бұрын
Caught that reference comparing Horus to Patrick Bateman about 5 minutes in and now can’t stop thinking about it.
@dumpanimator15 күн бұрын
Horus lupercal hershe hit emperor so hard His prepetual friend are all gone
@Arbiter22J15 күн бұрын
Horus is my favourite primarch. He's so human but so much above at the same time
@StarDateUnknown10 күн бұрын
The mid video break asking how I was doing was my favorite thing today.
@sandonthebrain960415 күн бұрын
Happy belated birthday, my dude! I think it’s appropriate that you cover the bald man himself on this unlucky day. I’ve always loved the idea of Horus and the many theories around how Horus would be if he were to be a good guy and one of the other primarch’s would’ve become the Arch-traitor, so thanks for the vid
@relishcakes452511 күн бұрын
I still say samguinius falling to the black rage would have been cooler
@spartastic415 күн бұрын
Currently listening to Horus Rising right now and it really is sad to see how he was to know what he'll become
@Bread-nx9fo15 күн бұрын
Its over Horus Heresy, I have the highground!
@Turnil32115 күн бұрын
Warhammer is all about creation weapons and being attacked by those living weapons you made. Necrons and C'tann, Old ones and Kroks/Eldar, humans and men of iron and the emperor and the space marines.
@etinarcadiaego742414 күн бұрын
As a histrionic vulnerable narcissist, I get why Horus did it. You do whatever you must to get that sweet validation
@Drunken_mage15 күн бұрын
I cannot wait for whenever you do. Characters from the necrons like this. Especially zahndrekh and obyron
@jakobthompson346815 күн бұрын
WHERE SPACE SHARKS?
@Alphacheesehunter15 күн бұрын
The Maelstrom Zone?
@ethangustafson657315 күн бұрын
Happy birthday man! Always brightens my day to see you put another video up
@matthewgnepper320115 күн бұрын
As for the counting mistake, I just assumed you kept to the numbers as a nod to II and XI having their records deleted.
@alexwilliamson399113 күн бұрын
Happy Birthday Bones! I want to say you are killing it and I hope you keep the content flowing. Congrats on the RAID sponsorship, I am curious if you have played, contacted the Tacticus WH40K game at all? Or I mean any of the other WH games in general. Maybe I am just a fan boy but I think you would be an awesome spokes person for the WH games out there...
@Drew-toob15 күн бұрын
Woo! Happy Belated Birthday! 🥳
@Wimpiethe315 күн бұрын
I mean they didn't call themselves after their primarch but just the part Ferus liked least. Had they called themselves Gorgons instead they'd be much better off. Horus really has the only legion named after a primarch.
@TheDukeofDeath66615 күн бұрын
I wonder why warhammer 40k named him horus heresy, everything would have been easier if he called him great crusade
@kennethallison782011 күн бұрын
Like the American psycho reference ya slipped in there toward the beginning lol nicely done good sir lol
@astrocosmicalDude15 күн бұрын
John "Emperor" Warhammer should've expected this to happened after he named his son Horus Heresy ...smh