Roboute Guilliman is the Best Primarch

[@Book_worm.75]

What growing up and being raised by 2 loving individuals does to a man.

[@stoops187]

Unironically this

[@daniellewin5274]

True true

[@thedude5449]

And that are also of the opposite sex.

[@UndarZ]

@@thedude5449 SIlence.

[@thedude5449]

@@UndarZ no untermensch, I will not.

[@thewerdna]

Shout out to Konor Guiliman and Tarasha Euten for being really good parents and thus made Guiliman one of the most well adjusted Primarchs.

[@scooterdescooter4018]

As a person who was adopted, sometimes the best parents you can have aren't related by blood.

[@ethanduncan1646]

King Blueberry's superpower was having normal well adjusted parents who loved him unconditionally.

[@cryamistellimek9184]

He’s not one of, he’s THE most well adjusted.

[@RevolverRho]

The most well adjusted you mean, literally none of the others have the sense of normalcy nor drive to remain calm in the face of the storm, sure he has short comings, nobody is perfect, but he stands a head above his brother with regards to his character, level headedness, and understanding of the common man.

[@lightningcat82]

The next level down of well adjusted primarchs just understand how badly fubar they are, and are able to deal with it. But none of them are on Bobby G's level.

[@issacdunham6257]

Guilliman is not a marry sue. He gets his ass kicked on every occasion. It's pretty much expected at this point. But he always comes back stronger. He feels like a spider man type of character.

[@alexmalik6204]

Ya. It feels like Bobby G, despite how powerful and intelligent he is, is constantly punching above his weight, earning every scar along the way.

[@magni5648]

Story of the Ultramarines during the entire Horus Heresy, really. The one thing that consistently makes them and Guilliman truly scary is their ability to rapidly and consistently *learn from their mistakes* and adapt to their opponents. Like, in the 30k rulesets Guilliman literally has a special rule that if he's in a challenge (basically a duel) against another character, his weapons skill (the value that determines how likely a model is to hit and be hit in close combat) goes up every round, and then it resets back to the default value once the challenge is over. Because he's *literally analysing his opponents fighting style mid-combat* and figuring out how to counter it.

[@FlawlessWallace3350]

@@magni5648that’s dope to hear so basically one the first clash you may get him once or twice but by the third clash it should be pretty much even?

[@blairsmith3199]

Hes a lot like a Sayan in that regard

[@doublep1980]

Dude wakes up after a 10,000 year coma. -The Imperium is an absolute shithole besieged by all sides. - All his brothers are either: dead, MIA or have turned into Chaos worshippers. - His father tells him that he and his brothers were never considered his sons, but mere tools for him and he considers them as failures. What does he do? Does he have a meltdown? NO! Does he go over to the dark side and turn traitor? NO! Does he starts whining around like a little biatch? HELL THE FUCK NO! He pulls his sleeves up and says: "Gentlemen, the situation is dire, time to fix some things. " That's what makes him so great.

[@JuanxDlol]

I'm 100% sure he'll make and "Imperium 2" if given the chance.

[@ivanrado3430]

And he gets himself a pair of Eldar cheeks.

[@pedropierre9594]

Hate the Big G all you want, there is no answer to regular old drinking water when you are thirsty and broke

[@KCUFyoufordoxingme]

Hate the drinking water if it somehow after over a hundreds of years, left you thirsty and broke.

[@dazmaz1269]

Based

[@jhackofalltrades]

All Hail Papa Smurf!

[@onemoregodrejected9369]

That is the most perfect metaphor

[@maddlarkin]

In all fairness the hate is less about Big Rob and far more to do with Matt Ward and the various travesties he committed against the lore, unfortunately as this true exemplar of the Neckbeard stereotype was an Ultramarine fanboi a lot of his most sins were in the service of making the ultramarines 'the greatest of them all' so although most of his 'contributions' are long since erased the stain remains and so Big Blue and his smurfs get the hate.

[@Bread-nx9fo]

Guilliman got a eldar GF, he just stays winning

[@kevinmccalister4602]

The Adepetus Ridiculous episode on his resurrection was hilarious and despite them kind of disproving the meme. Facts and logic aren’t going to stop us from making this joke! Let’s gooo!!!

[@ege8240]

i always imagined him gay for some reason... jk the reason is clearly his jawline hair and way of talking

[@Fyrijou]

Funnily enough, evey Eldar interaction he had after his resurrection led to him mistrusting them more and more. Especially when he experienced the webway once when Harlequins took him with them and he just went: „You all could’ve popped up on our Moon *at any time???* "

[@aziouss2863]

@@Fyrijou AND THEY dident do anything malicious with it? that would make me trust them more in a way. But keep an eye on them! And by that i mean Yvraine MASSIVE DUMPTRUCK! I am sorry i had to make the joke XD

[@qwefg3]

Its the fury joke with space wolves. It stuck, it shall not be removed. It shall stay both because it oddly makes him more interesting and also for the memes. Half the reason why nobody can take Abbadon seriously and why everyone is busy guessing his successor than seeing if he can be successful.

[@PeterDivine]

I mean, isn't Angron kind of a concluded plot at this point? He's not even really a person anymore, he's just a flesh-shaped hate machine in service of Khorne. Kind of hard to use him as a comparison to anyone else now.

[@collecter343]

Even in his new book he's not a person, just a plot device that we only reference because being in the same room as him is not possible.

[@GardensAndGames]

The way Angron is written in The Arks of Omen is basically a bundle of half-memories and bitter regrets in between tantrums.

[@sweatysocks8214]

​@@GardensAndGames oh so hes like his old self lol.

[@Lyonatan]

Angron was already dead before the Emperor snatched him away.

[@GardensAndGames]

@@sweatysocks8214 yes, but now he has wings!

[@NotThatGuyJD]

He's the best because he's the only one out here clapping alien cheeks without being completely corrupted by some demon sword.

[@wuhanjohn4900]

He hasn't done much yet, but the Lion just got bolstered with Heresy-Era legion veterans equipped with relic-grade weapons and armor.😢

[@louisnall3102]

To be fair, Jaghatai Khan has been missing in the webway for 10,000 years. What do you think he’s been doing?

[@EnergyBurst2]

@@louisnall3102 Making a successful biker bar chain across the galaxy using the webway?

[@rangav248]

It honestly would not surprise me if he has a full harem of dark eldar women. ​@@EnergyBurst2

[@LauchlinM.]

Thanks! Ah, my favourite Primarch just a day after my 31st birthday. Thank you kindly, Arthur. Oh, and enjoy your new place.

[@TheBoneZone40k]

bro you are far too generous!!!! holy shit

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

Bet he has the entire chapter as minis

[@thedeceiver-g3r]

We're rich!

[@LauchlinM.]

​@@yopoxikeweapescai9066 I actually don't even play 40k, I'm just a lore nerd. _Shrugs_ .

[@ege8240]

thats far more than the minimum currency where i live 💀💀💀

[@andreibaciu7518]

>Only Primarch with real parents >Only Primarch who didn't develop super schizo tendencies or turbo-autism What did GW mean by this?

[@kynan1232]

The man has every excel shortcut memorized and you're saying he's neuroTYPICAL?

[@blizzardgaming7070]

Oh no he is very much autistic, just regular irl autism rather than turbo.

[@yourlocalengineer]

@@kynan1232 Turbo-autism and mild-autism are not the same thing Difference is, one gets you a job, the other is mental sickness

[@nighthawk3305]

​@@yourlocalengineeras an autistic, I agree with you.

[@thelimon4338]

@@kynan1232he means like to the extreme like most other Primarchs obviously primarchs have ultra extreme emotions and mental illnesses due to having crazy gene seeds and being ultra powerful beings

[@ct7567CaptRex]

I see, pancreasnowork got to you with his blueberry propaganda

[@xxcambr04xx]

Elves simps have to.

[@Selanium]

Delicious

[@The_0G_Chad]

@@xxcambr04xx you must’ve not read the lore…. G-man, broke that Elf for her bread. He got the elves, dick whipped. The elves simp on him. They revived him. They sent emissaries to beg for an alliance after realizing how powerful and intelligent he was. Once they realized he was not just physically better and a better warrior but unable to be manipulated and was far too intelligent, they went from a manipulation strategy to outright supporting him.

[@rulerofeverything6294]

How dare you making fun of our primarch, heretic!

[@ct7567CaptRex]

@@rulerofeverything6294 honhonhon Hydra dominatus honhonhon

[@rylievalentine7109]

Mfs saying guilliman a Mary sue are the same mfs who say the emperor is the best character ever made

[@someaussieguy140]

People who say that probably haven't read his books. Dark Imperium opens with Guilliman failing, BADLY.

[@zacharyquisenberry89]

Vulkan Lives!

[@Isaac_S.B]

Being Guilliman is like being the only person with dining etiquette in a table full of orks that eat with their hands

[@aarovit4257]

I am the one of the biggest Khan simps. I boast about him whenever I can (eat shit Morty). I love his Primer, his legions two books, and his half book in the siege of Terra. And I love everything about his character … but yeah Guilliman is the best Primarch

[@louisnall3102]

I just finished reading Scars and it immediately made me love the white scars. It’s one of few books so good I’ve finished in one day.

[@jam34786]

Charcoal teddy bear and the lean green huggin machines are my favorite but yeah Bobby G and the blueberries are pretty goated

[@sampier3632]

​@jam34786 I am no longer able to tell who is who anymore, it's over for me. Warhammer terminology is too advanced for me.

[@aziouss2863]

@@sampier3632 Hug = Vulcan no further details are required. He is the only entity with enough wholesomeness to make hugs manifest in the grimdarkness. Blue = Ultramar = Elf lover. It is very simple when you think about it!

[@notusneo]

​@@sampier3632 Charcoal Teddy bear is vulkan

[@SilverGarrison]

When I learned he has a Mom and actually cared about her, I was sold.

[@aidan-h3p]

2nd Primarch is far superior. Bro does not get the attention he deserves, absolutely incredible character and has easily the most deep and complex backstory out of any Primarch. He doesn't get much writing, but he's mentioned loads of times and had by far the greatest impact on the universe. 11th is absolute dogshit, we don't talk about that clown.

[@jonathanathor117]

the bug player primarch

[@jonathanathor117]

The 11th primarch sold me uranium rods. He chill when you get to know him.

[@Subject35th]

Many thought the Rangdan xenocide took out both 2nd and 11th. But i check the timeline, and turn out the Xenocide ended before 11th were found, so it only took out (or not) the 2nd. So 11th must have f up something else. The censor of lost Primarch even happen not long after the the destruction of Mornachia

[@The_0G_Chad]

This is the goat comment. At first, I thought this was a bot. 😂

[@High_Marshal_Guts]

One of my favorite aspects of Guilliman is how human he is, and there are three instances that really show that. The first one was in Unremembered Empire when he walked through the portal of the Pharos device out of pure concern and care of his mother after seeing the toll of facing and hearing from Curze that Roboute was killed. He didn’t even give a second thought of what might happened to him if he went through that portal, all he cared about was comforting his mother. The next instance was during Gathering Storm, when Nurgle decided to spread a plague around Ultramar to prevent Gman from going to Terra. When he saw how his presence was curing the people infected he immediately just went all around Ultramar to try cure and heal everyone. The only reason he stopped and went to Terra was due to Grand Master Aldrik Voldus told him how he was only temporarily curing the infected and how Nurgle was just using the plague to keep him on Ultramar. Even then, Guilliman was extremely reluctant to leave his people and was ready to fully stay, but ultimately listen to reason and went to Terra to speak to the Emperor. The last instance is my personal favorite in which is when we learn about his retirement plan. Now his retirement plan isn’t to be some grand statesman or to rule over Ultramar. His retirement plan was to leave the delegating and ruling of Ultramar to his sons, while he retired off in the country side working on a farm. While the most other Primarchs had grand ideas for their retirement or didn’t even have one, Guilliman just a nice, peaceful and humble life as a farmer. Simple and yet human at the same time.

[@isaacfreeman1]

I get why Lion fights Angron. It makes more sense to me. Angron wasn't a bestiality entity out of his pod. Lion was. Angron learned to be a savage beast like how Lion naturally is. The Lion learned to tame his savageness and that loyalty is its own reward. Angron wasn't savage until he got the nails and became a beast that had no loyalty. They're narrative flips. I didn't read envy in Angron's words to Bobby, I read the derision towards some high-class(rider) busybody who wouldn't understand struggle. Like the rich kid trying to hang out with the street kid.

[@GloomGaiGar]

I hope that "beastiality" was a mistake lol if not even more lol

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

spell check...

[@jetblackangelX]

Bro, you might want to spell check that second sentence.

[@seangrey]

@@jetblackangelX aint no mistake lmao

[@AndyAshworth-h6w]

They're saving guilliman for a rematch against fulgrim, another loyalist may come back, such as Russ of the Khan?

[@quack9355]

Rowboat is one of the Humane Primarch. Where Vulkan would save Civilians and let the Mission be damned. Where Dorn would finish the task despite the lost. Gorillaman knows how to balance the two and learn from his mistakes. His rage is always justified and somewhat realistic for someone who has to be stern at all times for what his own existence represents. He knows he needs to get things done, but he also knows that it is never going to be easy. Especially after a blink of an eye, the Imperium the Emperor created for Humanity suddenly turned upside down. Lion got 10k years of sleep and self meditation for him to look back and stomach his past actions. Guilliman just basically Blinked after being cut by a Daemon Fulgrim. He is technically... the right man at the Wrong time.

[@ravendelacour1917]

Guillman's true superpower in regards to the Empire is that he is an able administrator who doesn't put his ego over the needs of the Empire. An Empire is as good as it's beaurcracy. Doesn't matter if you have a million legions and a fleet of thousands of ships if you can't get food and fuel to them.

[@betternamepending9543]

During the Great Crusade, while his brothers were conquering planets, fortifying star systems, and fighting campaigns, Guilliman was building an Empire. That's the difference between Guilliman and his brothers. That's why Guilliman is the only one who can actually save the Imperium instead of just fighting its enemies and that's why he is the best Primarch.

[@petergray2712]

RG is the yang to Angron's yin. The Red Angel (without the Butcher's Nails and the Khornite influence) features a fiery outward demeanor concealing a sensitive, compassionate soul. In every timeline where he didn't take the Nails or fall to Chaos, he composes poetry and music when he's not on campaign. Roboute Guilliman is the opposite, a nerdish and socially awkward introvert who harbors a spine of adamantium and a fusion reactor heart. Remember John Dryden's saying that you should fear the anger of a gentle man? RG is THAT guy. Remember Andrew Bierce's saying that for every man, there's a point that he will start slitting throats? RG is exhibit A on that transformation. In the Emporer's Scheme, RG belongs to the Triumvirate of Domination with Rogal Dorn and Horus Lupercal, all of whom were assigned administrative roles in the Imperial government that they executed with unyielding will and preternatural ability.

[@michaelburrow4679]

I love your style of videos bro. You don’t speed through the lore or just take this biggest bits of every lore piece like a lot of other KZbinrs do. Just honestly a really good video structure

[@maxwellderpin8477]

While I do agree that he's probably the best. I still love peter turbo more. Peter is just such a prick in every way.

[@scooterdescooter4018]

I hate Pete because he is a petulant manchild, I love Pete because he is a petulant manchild.

[@maxwellderpin8477]

@@scooterdescooter4018 exactly!

[@DaniG._.German]

*Robert Guillermo and The Blue Men Group, the Jacks of all Trades, Masters of Excell.*

[@MrPink-qf1xi]

I think no one else has any hope to keep Imperium intact but the Big G. Him, his ultramarines, ultramar and Imperium Secundus shows what humanity can become if they get their shit together.

[@JerichoYeet]

Of course he's the best primarch. He is the only one running the Imperium with twenty pots of recaf and ten primarch size boxes of cig packs as he burns through them twenty pack an hour.

[@Warmaster2001]

Understandable why so high quantity because he is in constant depression. I wonder if he feels like he just delaying the Imperiums inevitable fall to Chaos and Tyranids or genuinely believe that he can fix this predatory Imperialistic Empire?

[@Pepe-pq3om]

​@@Warmaster2001 Imperialistic empire

[@Pariahwulfen]

Ultramar was Space Athens, with Robo Girlyman being Space Alexander the Great. Space Western Roman Empire is the Imperial Fists with Dorn being Space Aurelian.

[@Warmaster2001]

More like Flavius Aetius than Aurelianus. Or both together. As with Guilliman his more like Augustus, Traianus or Marcus Aurelius than Alexander. 40K already have Alexander the Great which is Lord-Solar Macharius.

[@Pariahwulfen]

@@Warmaster2001 Macharius came about in 3rd ed when they tried to Romanize the UltraSmurfs, instead of being explicitly Greek.

[@Viper3-1.8th]

I find it funny that Guilliman is the only high ranking loyalist that isn’t insanely religious or just crazy on the current setting And he is the only primarch that can/could clap alien cheeks and get away with it…

[@rangav248]

I'd say either Leman or The Khan could do it if they wanted to.

[@trollinoakenshield9822]

But all of the loyalist primarchs aren't religious or crazy thought

[@JamieZero7]

Big G is the best. He's the only one who actually stayed with the dream that the emperor had. The rest disappeared granted we haven't seen all of the scattering. But Guilliman only got poisoned which took him out of action and when he came back he didn't disappear. There was no imperium begging him to return. He wanted to help humanity save the Imperium and the emperor's dream.

[@kaitracksmalgom]

I understand KZbinrs try to be funny But why did they decide we needed to name our drinks “titty milk” and guacamole gamer fart 9000

[@simonmills8863]

It's ironic. You are watching a warhammer video. How didn't you see this?

[@eg_manifest510]

@@simonmills8863 how does the satirical-turned-halfheartedly-serious nature of Warhammer relate to a KZbinr naming their cave dweller juice after human bodily fluids?

[@Liselotte2000]

You kinda answered your own question. Tryna be funny. Different humour for different people

[@Seoul_Soldier]

@@eg_manifest510 Because they wanted to. It ain't that deep.

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

Guacamole gamer fart 9000 is so bad it loops back around and becomes actually funny in an ironic way, which is intentional I think. Also if you’re actually buying KZbinr drinks like that your life’s probably in such a state you’ve got no right to complain that your drink is called tittymilk

[@jaegerbomb269]

Maybe, but Corvus Corax is my favorite. Sanguinius is a close second.

[@louisnall3102]

Do you like wings or something?

[@jaegerbomb269]

@@louisnall3102 yes. You may judge me. 😆

[@Just_Pele]

Sanguineous is my fav, as is his chapter, while Corvus is 2nd and Robot Gorillaman is 3rd, tied with Vulcan. I like the Kahn, but the whole story about how he dipped-out of the setting is lame and makes him sound like a deadbeat dad, abandoning his family when they needed him most.

[@moreauclement9702]

Only Guilliman and Dorn had like a "normal" upbringing.... That might explain a lot of things

[@Warmaster2001]

Yes. Having a normal parents always will make you a good person. Same with the primarchs. And yes Rog and Rob have the good ones. Dorn have a grandpa and Rob have a good dad (whom he likes so much that in his honour named a battleship Spirit of Konor) and good mother. So yeah. 2 primarchs without issues with their adoptive parents (except Shitperor because every primarch have issue with him)

[@Just_Pele]

The Lion had one that didn't entirely suck, comparatively, once they got him living indoors and litterbox trained.

[@doublep1980]

Jaghatai Khan anyone?

[@trollinoakenshield9822]

Sanguinus had a loving parents. vulkan was raised by a blacksmith and a loving community. Corax was raised by good mentor, also sister, lots of sisters. Russ's raised by a loving wolf family (let's not nitpick. a mammal's a mammal)

[@mide2476]

0:32 Clap Clap 👏🏾.

[@EmonWBKstudios]

Didnt i already watch this video? Cant have, i remember a different voice.

[@iainhansen1047]

The point about what the marines would do AFTER the great Crusade is frankly on of my favourite debates in 40k. Funny sorcerer man himself Ahriman of the thousand sons had a fucking Vineyard. The all powerful sorcerer murder machine literally planned to retire and make wine like fucking Picard.

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

given what Big E did to the Thunder Warriors when he was done with them and had a version 2.0 lined up, you could have a whole storyline where Horus's fear of going from glorious conquer to space jailer is realized. Under the circumstances Astartes were actually built for, they expect to die in war. Some legions might do alright but I'm not so sure about all of them.

[@magni5648]

@@xXx_Regulus_xXx He put down the Thunder Warriors because they were literally degenerating into mindless berserkers due to their augmentations breaking down. This was expected, given they were a rushjob that prioritized short-term performance over all other concerns - and the Thunder Warriors themselves knew that theirs was that kind of "burn bright, but briefly" deal when they took it.

[@DagothDaddy]

I really hope the next Primarch is someone like Corax or Russ. I know people want Dorn but that would be boring. We have Robute a stern,thoughtful and reliable Battlefield commander. The Lion a stern thoughtful and reliable Battlefield commander. Getting Dorn a stern,thoughtful and reliable Battlefield commander would not be interesting. Throwing someone unpredictable or against the grain into the mix would be very interesting especially seeing how they would clash with the Elements of the Imperium that Robute has been trying to manage like the Inquisition.

[@alastor8091]

Which is why it should be Kahn or Corvus.

[@MR.LMR1996]

@@alastor8091 My vote would be for the Khan. Would go against the grain alot since he wouldn't put up being ordered around by them two. Especially since he was one of the three Primarchs that was there during the Siege of Terra. When everyone doubted his loyalties for as long as they did, he had the common sense to stay loyal.

[@alastor8091]

@@MR.LMR1996 not only that, I juat wanna see an older, wiser Khan. I wonder what he'd bring to the table. I had an idea where he took Corvus' route and got in touch with his Warp side, allowing him to move even faster, and that he would be able to travel so fast across the galaxy, that he'd be able to fight Angron no matter where he spawned in his 8 week, 8 day, 8 hour timer. He'd lean into a kind of ancient master martial artist like the sword master in Kill Bill complete with long white beard.

[@Iesse13]

Russ then Corax or Khan, if Corax or Khan returned it will tip some balance of the Emperiums Leadership, you got to remember both the Khan and Corax agreed on Gman breaking the legion because both Legion excel on small groups, putting russ first makes a balanced leadership, because russ kind of contradict Gman, the Legions need to return to its glory days.

[@alastor8091]

@@Iesse13 Russ is the worst primarch and I actually hate him and the Space Wolves. They're like the Word Bearers of Loyalists.

[@stoops187]

Hate on Gman if you want, but if you want to see him fuck shit up with his fisticuffs and pure unadulterated RAGE, read Know No Fear. One of the more famous parts with him is literally “Man too angry to die”

[@Warmaster2001]

Ah it's battle of Calth when future emperor Guilliman thrown into space without helmet but have anger to just kick some ass and return to his ship.

[@stoops187]

@@Warmaster2001 yes

[@ChandelordChandel-wi6hx]

The "What doesn't kill me isn't trying hard enough" quote is from that book, right?

[@stoops187]

@@ChandelordChandel-wi6hx it’s been a while since I read it bro. I’m actually rereading it next.

[@sonofsanguinius176]

I love Sanguinius and he was and probably still is my favorite Primarch...but Recently after finishing all 3 dark imperium books AND the forgotten empire book where he made imperium secundus....idk man Im loving G man more and more, Besides having the most cool and aestheticly awesome armor among all his brothers (atleast for 40k because of how much it represents the Imperium and ive always been a big fan of the generic SM power armor instead of the weirder variants of power armor) , He went through alot, he had a heart to heart with his dad before he passed on, he was level headed with his brothers when they tried to bring him down , he had to carry the entire weight of the Imperium with him alone in the far future... the loneliness the dissapointment of finally meeting your dad and he shoots you down.....i can just relate with him so much..... He is a badass not because he is the most powerful or inhuman but because he is the most human primarch.

[@emptyarthaus9535]

I just wonder how much Robooty has to bite his tongue dealing with the now degenerate version of his pappys vision. It must be hard seeing how far its fallen. Also the idea of Khorne just sitting on his throne and looking up in confusion hearing his hate-o-meter beep like a smoke alarm with a low battery out of nowhere as Guillie barks at Matthew is just 🤌

[@mikeylejan8849]

He was raised by moral and loving parents noble even today. Konnor was virtually a warlord but he was a noble one and not corrupt. Terasha and Konnor shown him loved.

[@martymiarty5078]

Can we just all come together to assemble the list of our favourite Roboute Guiliman nicknames? Mine's Robo Girlyman

[@VinnyPTAstartes]

Rowboat Gorillaman

[@isaacfreeman1]

Bobby G

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

Rawbooty Gorillaman

[@Grubnar]

"Bobby Gee"

[@Dsaberguy]

Papa Smurf

[@KratosisGod]

Guilliman is a sensible man in a galaxy where sense is in short supply.

[@dmanlip]

The lion fighting angron made sense because angron was the end point the lion was going to arrive at if the lion didn't shape up. Not in the angry way, but in the unempathetic and extremely self destructive way. The lion shaped up, and saw the echo of what could have been in angron.

[@Kurze099]

Sup bones. This is the second time I’m commenting this lol I think a cool series idea would be your takes on your primarch doubles theory you mentioned in the astartes anonymous podcast. Haven’t watched the video yet but I bet it’s gonna be awesome. Keep up the good work brother!

[@TheJDKX]

If you are looking for something similar. Live from black library has a good video on the primarchs having similar roles and redundancies for each one

[@nidolord3699]

"How did I get here?" - Desmond the moon bear

[@Warmaster2001]

*THE END*

[@zombi3brosnanxx]

Wonderful video. Always nice to see someone actually give Guilliman credit and breakdown his character seriously instead of just "haha I didn't say his name right, I'm so funny, and he's a big blueberry." When you brought up the rage of Guilliman and how explosive it is, I'm reminded of the moment in Know No Fear where he's absolutely destroying Word Bearers and wants to keep doing so but knows its not what battle needs. Likewise, there's an amazing voice over of the scene you mentioned where Guilliman loses his temper with the priest on KZbin that I frequently go back to listen to and it really expresses how surprising Guilliman's anger is. And it isn't just Guilliman. That rage is within his sons as well. Most recently, we see it in Space Marine 2 with Chairon.

[@CaptainVentanus]

Roboute started penning the codex during the gread crusade, not for the second founding, but for the ultramarines, so the may survive his death. This kind of attitude shows why is so awesome, he more than any other primarchs cared for his sons and his people

[@aziouss2863]

I personally can't choose between Guilliman,Vulcan and the Khan. -Guilliman is as near to the perfect human as can be with his flaws included cus that is what makes him human. The video is enough i don't need to explain further. -Vulcan is benevolent to a point he felt guilty for the death of an innocent Eldar child at his hand despite the immense xenophobia of his empire and the fact it was done by his insane brother not him. It was not his choice to be tortured to the point of losing his sanity. Yet that event of seeing innocence snuffed out due to injustice is the thing that brought him back from a place that no one should be able to come back from. Also just take a look at his legion and the values they share. -The Khan is smart,virtues and independent in his morality. He was very vocal about what in insane concept the empire of man could devolve to under the emperor who keep going too far into evil thinking he is doing good. He foresaw something bad. Tried to stop it as best he could and even made his legion pick up hobbies knowing it was the thing that will keep them human. That their existence as killing machine was tragic... Opposed to the end goal of keeping humanity which was the ultimate hypocrisy of the emperor. (No grater evidence of the hypocrisy of the emperor that what happened with the 1000S and the thunder warriors.) So Yeh i cant choose between those 3 that are currently alive and not the bitches of some warp entities or a megalomaniac...

[@Warmaster2001]

Choose all 3. If you like this 3 theres is no need to set preferences. Just say I love this 3 )

[@TheMaulam12345]

oh Emperor is bad and Imperium is evil ,, just shut up.

[@GutsOfRivia]

Im glad the Ultramarine hate is kinda dying down I used to hate them for 10+ years because everyone else hated them but as I grew up I was like "wait why do I hate them because everyone hates them?". A lot of their novels were great and even back then during the height of Ultramarine hatred even I and everyone loved Titus and Ventris.

[@Grubnar]

I blame Matt Ward and Cato Sicarius. Thankfully, the Horus Heresy series made "Bobby Gee" and the Ultramarines cool again.

[@TheRedMan77]

@@Grubnar Now the new Mary Sue faction is the Space Wolves. Fucken dogs.

[@brianaguila6925]

On the offtopic side, kinda funny that the Space Wolves routed almost won their fight against the still loyal World Eaters when Russ wanted to arrest? Angron for his uncontrollable rage. The Wolves were seen as the reasonable ones when in the early Crusade it was the opposite. War Hounds were thought of organized,controlled rage and the Wolves as chaotic direction less rage

[@supsup335]

So... About those dad parents?

[@Dozarman]

"dad" parents?

[@supsup335]

@@Dozarman i stand by what i said🤣 got nothing to do with bad tipping on a sNart phone

[@Captain-Thievius]

Guilliman is the Captain America of 40K. A man out of time, fighting for what’s right in an age that is a far cry from what he once knew.

[@nexarath]

That's a funny way of saying Jagathai Khan.

[@Just_Pele]

His two Primarch powers are both awesome: He has god-tier accounting skills, and he's able to learn from past failures and improve himself. The latter is especially important and unique, as all of his brothers are incapable of this.

[@TimeCircleBlue]

16:48 There IS a fan story that pairs them, but it also takes the what-if of “Guilliman found Angron before the Nails were implanted” It’s called “Legacy of the Red Angel” It’s pretty good, you should read it.

[@Hervis_Daubeny]

Video starts at 3:00

[@yaqbulyakkerbat4190]

Dude's by far the most stable and reasonable. Perfectly fair argument

[@exponenttie9707]

at 3:20 one of the systems on the map is named after Konor, love that little detail for the 500 worlds, Guilliman loved his father so much that he named a star after him. when we eventually learn of the death of his mom, I do want it to be after he is put in stasis, I find the idea of her seeing her little boy in a perpetual second from death is very heart breaking, and have her decide to leave voice recordings for him for when he wakes up giving him hope in a better future and just words of encouragement would be pretty bittersweet to me, for even after she's gone she still gives him some advice one "what if" scenario I look at is what if Guilliman found Angron first, from what I found Nuceria is decently close to Ultramar, making it a decent possibility, and the idea of those two helping eachother and the story potential of Guilliman going weeks without sleep to try and find the cure for the nails, some good story potential there, along with the idea that "what if Angron was in stasis right before they tried getting to Terra and was the one to be woken by Cawl and Yvraine" is another what if I play around with in my head

[@Zeth1818]

The vengeful bean counter is the best

[@andrewfornes5320]

Angron's jealousy of Robute's life is very similar to Konrad's jealousy of Corvus' ability & control of his legion.

[@cyberpsycho3762]

I hope Guilliman feels regret over how he treated Rogal after the seige. The man had the whole Imperium on his shoulders and he carried that defense. Only for his own brother to basically usurp him and act holier than thou. Now, it is he that bears the burden of this broken empire. I hope he understands the pressure that Rogal was under and that while reading the histories, he sees that Rogal saved the Imperium through his Last Wall Protocol. Proving that even in his absence, he is the Imperium's greatest defender. And no other.

[@outerinferno6939]

another godlike video of Mr Bones, and is about one of my favorites primarchs, the blueberry scout, rowboat gorillaman, such a GOAT, even the emperor doubt on him due to having such a massive empire such as Ultramar, but he's loyal AF, there's nothing chaos can do or give to him, he's a believer of mankind, he's carrying the imperium with HIS SHOULDERS, HE'S THE GOAT, THE GOAAAAAAAT

[@wolffianna9677]

Since you asked tried pineapple cocktail tonight and ordered incel tears for the peach flavor. For me it was a huge win. Support a channel I appreciate AND No sugar or caffeine. As a over 50 gamer and diabetic I've been struggling to find something like this so when I caught your video promoting it I went right away to try it out. Thanks! I've been enjoying your series' and also follow Pancreas because I'm a Ynarri simp. :D So Guilliman is probably my favorite just for that aspect. :)

[@patrickiamonfire965]

No kidding you really do nick videos from Pancreasnowork. Just had 'all time' and done; you have the same title. Jokes asides your videos always had this eye opening perspective to them. Both your guys videos are great and vastly different and entertaining.

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

1:54 he is telling me to start the cut AAAAAAAAHHHH

[@KnarfStein]

I greatly appreciate this intellectual analysis of the G Man! Many other WH40k videos are almost word-for-word readouts of wiki articles.

[@Ruggedtoaster]

The Angron/Girlyman comparison is really appropriate comparison, Angron grew up on a world closer to Macrage than not but with a reverse upbringing. Girlyman in his final fight with Angron is beating Angron for most of the fight because he has let that rage out. But he is also taken back by Angrons WORDS in that fight. After returning to the setting in the Dark imperiam books he keep thinking about that and feels bad for Angron. He believes that there was truth in what Angron said and He wishes for a time when he could have saved his brothers or maybe just for the chance to have tried to talk them back into the fold. an understated thing in that series is Girlyman’s fear that the Emperor was wrong and was responsible (in part) for what happened to humanity and his sons. I’ve also held to the theory that part of why Angron seems to hold so much anger towards the more “noble” primarchs is the way he always sees the great crusade as tyrannical, and that if they were truly noble they would have turned on the Imperial system as well.

[@thepyrokitten]

Idk about stunning and brave but I do find you extra cute when you talk about horror. Your passion is very clear.

[@hunterhenderson9721]

I just found your channel after a friend got me in Warhammer from playing Space Marine 2. And in two weeks I can now say I have watched every single video and am caught up 😂😂

[@MartialGamerchannel]

Rowboating Giglamesh is the man with the plan. Wonder if he bumped into Lion yet.

[@adarshkamoda9183]

OKAY, now we definitely know that Pancreasnowork has Mr. BONES 40k in a chokehold.

[@ULTRAINFINITEJUSTICE]

i forget which book it was but during the heresy angron is taking out some ultramarine post and the chief of it is duel wielding gladii and just chewing through world eaters like butter screaming about KHARN. even in modern 40k CATO SICARIUS is one of the best swordsman in the galaxy. the ultramarines may be seen as jacks of all trades but their personalties very much let them chooose something to be an expert at as well.

[@awesomeblb3407]

13:40 I mean there is that time he was ejected out of his ship without a helmet but was so mad he just kept going and killed some space marines with his bare hands

[@Evangel-aclr]

If you asked me Row boat girlyman should have been war Master he had all the skills to not only wage a large scale war like that but also knew the proper steps to stableize world's brought into the emporium. He also knew how to be an effective politician (which is somthing horus failed at). He would be on my dream team of leaders alone with Dorn the lion and Corvus

[@Van_Guardiann7]

I wonder if Guilliman had a Heresy era flash back when he learned about the silver skulls apon revival, seeing how he praised Barabus Dantioch for his deeds and valors way back when... also a bit of stress when he saw yet ANOTHER chapter being made from traitor gene seed lol.

[@Goldenblitzer]

Nothing like ending a video with PURE, Emperor blessed facts

[@hexaquras9374]

finally yet another 20+ minutes about Roberto Guillermo video added to my collection

[@herolumierelumanite1608]

1:31 And there stood The Khan, damned only by his irrelevancy.

[@Chrisconditioning]

I agree 100% I've read all the HH and he is a legend. He's the most human, he is the most practical, logical and reasonable and that shows through in his sons!

[@ronniegeddes5072]

Man I think the handsome servo skull has convinced me on this one. It was a very funny video, thank you for it.

[@kuroshine]

Funny, CGTester just posted that Guillaman Dialog with Frater Mathieu as a VO. Its really good

[@wavetactics13]

I'd throw in Perturabo as another Space Greek/Roman foil for Guilliman. I get people tend to focus on his rivalry with Dorn and all, but if you think about it, Peter Turbo and Gman do have some things in common. Both were taken in by the elite of their society, possess highly analytical minds, and were some of the most effective Primarchs for their respective sides. Even the fact the two tend to bottle up their rage until they let it out in an explosive display is a shared trait. However, for all their similarities the differences in their upbringings made one a wise ruler and the other a harsh tyrant. And I think it would be funny to have the rageaholic, the can of stoic resentment, and Mr. logistics in a room together.

[@The_Arnak_Way]

Genuinely interested in what you think is “wrong” with angel boy

[@Grubnar]

Black Rage?

[@angrybanana5476]

​@@Grubnarmeh anger management will fix that

[@Warmaster2001]

​@@angrybanana5476 except he didn't have that.

[@zhcultivator]

This has nothing to do with 40k, but since you love dwarves so much, Would you be interested in ''sea dwarves'' or ''river dwarves'' that ride crocodiles, plesiosaurs and alligators?? as an alternative dwarf sub-race or subspecies in fantasy fiction?*

[@AllramYT]

Guilliman and Angron(without nails) would have been great brothers :O

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

Mr bones literally cannot stop making fire takes

[@potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420]

Logistics wins wars, that's why Guilliman is the best. Even the Emperor talking to Malcador during the siege knew it. Malcador "I wonder what Guilliman is doing?" Big E "Probably building an empire." Everyone else was born war leaders ( except Vulkan) and had roles to fill in the Emperor's dream. But only Guilliman was made to build it himself if all else failed. I think Guilliman was never the Emperor's favorite but always his back up plan, and in Imperium Secundus he makes a great Malcador to the Angel's Emperor. Imho anyway, I could be wrong.

[@JosephHead]

‘Guilliman.’ Kor Phaeron’s narrow lips moulded into a grimace, opposing his primarch’s smirk. ‘Guilliman is your father’s echo, heart and soul. If all else went wrong, he would be heir to the empire. Horus is the brightest star and you carry your father’s face, but Guilliman’s heart and soul are cast in the Emperor’s image.’ While my first army that is being worked on is blood angels, the Ultramarines are always impressive to me

[@al-mungus677]

Notice how a GOAT bearer said that demon lorgar slams

[@mazeltovcocktail2.0]

chrisnaturallyrp just did a reading of that scene with Guilliman and Matheiu and hot damn it's good.

[@jackinbigletters6040]

The Thousand Sons were also prepared for the end of the crusade, with the most cited one being Ahriman running a winery, "After all, this crusade cannot last forever, and we will need to have a purpose beyond that when it is over. What will become of the warriors when there are no more wars?"

[@BishamonS]

Hey Arthur, I know you’re doing Primark stuff right now but if you get time, it would be really cool to see a breakdown of vashtorr the arkifane. I know they’re new to the universe, but there’s a ton of stuff about them especially in ark of omen and I think they are honestly one of the coolest things to happen outside of the Votann and The Lion.

[@JetPantherCrispy]

Did Colin put you up to this?! Holy throne, if you get a custom flavor in the future, it’s gotta be Lotara’s sweat or something

[@IronWarriorBarrak]

I believe the Khan and Guilliman are the most well adjusted out of the 19. With the Khan being that when it comes to war and apposing sides, and Guilliman with politics and civilisation building/management. But out of the 2, and even the rest of his brothers, Guilliman is the best to be the Imperiums Lord commander and WarMaster.

[@APZachariah]

I'm a Dorn fan through and through, and whenever anyone asked me which Loyalist Primarch would be the best for the Imperium I would always sigh and reluctantly admit it would be Guilliman.

[@udp1073]

The first book i read in english it was 1993, i was an Italian student in a student exchange program) was this story of this japanese dude that was, basically, the perfect warrier because he was “the joker of all trades, the master of none”… there is even a japanes word for this… i always thought Bobby G to be the primarch version of this, let say “the master of all trades, the ultimate example of none”, to go up one notch

[@Grubnar]

"A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes is better than a master of one."

[@Sanhi3]

YES, finally someone else points out how Angron and Bobby G have berserker rages, but while Angron uses his rage all the time, Robute sharpens it and stores it until either it explodes or he really needs it (aka with the priest, when he gets thrown into space or when someone wakes him up from his stasis nap

[@DaniG._.German]

Guilliman: YOU... MAY... NOT!!! A few moments later Gulliman: darn it, I shouldn't have yelled at Matthew.

[@Cmdtheartist]

You see, my dear sweet Bobby Blueberry? It's like I told you, everybody loves you, you're the best boy. Also, I straight up have never heard anybody call Angron "Angry Ron" before and I almost crashed my truck. Thanks for all the stuff, my man.

[@wahbegan]

Sanguinius is better because shut up Source: I'm right and you're wrong

[@alastor8091]

>Sanguinius Sanguinius is also dead as shit.

[@Turnil321]

yeah, he good a legion that was worse than the world eaters and got sent to a really bad planet. Guileman got the best legion and the best home world.

[@alastor8091]

@@Turnil321 there wasn't even anything wrong with the War Hounds. Angron is what turned them away from their honor. The War Hounds were a great Legion, the World Eaters were forcibly corrupted.

[@wahbegan]

@@alastor8091 TRIGGERED

[@budderk1305]

but blue is an objectively better color than red, checkmate