What On Earth Was That?! 🤦‍♂️ | Episode 4 Reaction | The Rings of Power

[@MRdaBakkle]

I am convinced that the only reason the Elves were on foot was so they could do panning shots of a Fellowship walking through mountains and hills. It's just hey the Fellowship walked everywhere, so are these guys. The only reason, even if it doesn't make sense. Even if we saw Elrond and Galadriel in episode 1 ride on horse to Lindon.

[@Restrodsworth]

Tom wouldn’t care about Saurons return and he definitely wouldn’t be trying to persuade people to confront him. He shouldn’t feel like another human you can have a straight conversation with.

[@kirishima2370]

Exactly.

[@TETASARAIVACS]

Well that would be Third Age’s Tom, we don’t know if he was always like that. Having said that, you missed the point that Bombadil is a senile who has the very same conversations with everyone he meets 😅

[@brettmuir5679]

Lest we forget, Tom is not human and he sat out Arnor's war with the witch king and the war Sauron waged against Eregion. All of these wars were at his borders and he sang and strode and rhymed heedlessly and blithely whilst protecting his realm at the center of it. Ever heard of the Girdle of Melian? Tom knows whose remains lay in the barrows of Barrow Downs and Tom taught Treebeard to talk perhaps....smoke that pipe

[@Marcus_Berger1701]

I pictured myself Bobadil way more energetic, dancing around and joyful maybe a little bit crazy in the eyes of others that might meet him, than they depicted him in this episode.

[@DanBryanWrites]

@@Marcus_Berger1701 he was bland, tropey and that accent!!! Ugh

bombadil goes with hobbits not gandalf

[@Fallenhalo88]

The problem with these deep dives is you guys are putting more thought into to these episodes then the writers are.

[@TheBrokenSword]

🤣🤣🤣

[@wijammin6684]

Obviously, trolling is just Damrod's side hustle. We see that pierced nipple from your porn gigs, bro.

[@TheTableOfDurin]

​@@TheBrokenSwordJust be aware of delving to deep 😂

[@BlackWolf-el3gu]

Wait are you telling me Tolkien fans look deeply into lore? No.

[@TheTableOfDurin]

@@BlackWolf-el3gu no I didn't meant to, I was just making a funny comment about delving to deep. You might find a Balrog... But sorry for the misunderstanding.... 🙃

[@poneill65]

"So, he's a great big 'Grand Elf'",.. Oh God, Oh God No, Pleasse make it stop!

[@TheBrokenSword]

😭😭😭

[@kevz2474]

😂😂😂😂

[@BigSexyWizard]

like it wasnt obvious by the end of the first season

[@MRdaBakkle]

He carries a grand

[@Mr.Feanor]

I'm waiting for all seasons,the end, and then I'll watch it...but maybe I will not🤣 This is a great ,hilarious review😁

[@thesiberianproductions3748]

Galadriel's character would make more sense as Celebrian. She could flirt with Elrond and be young and naive and it would all make sense (even if it's not totally lore accurate) Edit: lol just got to that part

[@dodojesus4529]

@@thesiberianproductions3748 you see Celdbrian isnt in in the movies so doesnt have the recognition galadriel has.

[@Michael-ji3gw]

Thank you for not being shills like some of your contemporaries.

[@faustoutloud]

I agree completely love these Guys ❤.

[@di3486]

They realize that would be a big mistake

[@andrewvanorden2336]

Nerd of the rings, in deep geek to name a couple

[@Michael-ji3gw]

@@andrewvanorden2336 Nerd of the Rings for sure. I dont find IDG to be bad at all though.

[@dukesilver3491]

@andrewvanorden2336 In Deep Geek has always done neutral content for everything he covers. GOT, Witcher etc. He doesn't do personal opinion and never has. Nerd of the ring however did do a pretty brutal take down of ROP season 1 despite being involved in some of the promotional stuff, so even when he stands to lose money/opportunities he still trashed the show. But I don't see why your looking to hate on any channel because they aren't shouting to the roof tops about how shit rop is. Please try to chill a little more this time, yes it's shit but the world isn't ending 🤷

[@famgod8318]

I don’t know how you guys can still put yourselves through this. I couldn’t even make it through 4 episodes of the first series.

[@TheBrokenSword]

It's not Easy... but its an excuse to go live and chat with the community. Which we love doing 😊

[@zStC1]

Its alot easier when you're getting donations and the like. I'm pretty sure any fan of the lotr universe would complain and nitpick for an hour and get paid. Not hard to understand, really. At this point, I'm even tempted to make my own channel, hop on the bandwagon and collect a check. If I do, the name will be Auditor of Arda. I'll fit right in 🙂

[@petarjovanovic1481]

In the opening shots of the second season Galadriel and Elrond are riding their speedy horses from Eregion to Lindon, that distance took, what it seems in the show, a few hours to traverse. What exactly is preventing them from riding their horses on their way back?

[@SupremacySinema]

0:01 Dude hasn’t even started the review and he already looks done with the show lol. Can’t blame him lol

[@yesus9980]

I think this show ,just brought Tolkien fans even closer. It’s just sooo bad , that we are all gathered here to laugh and be jolly 😄

[@carlbernard7615]

Like Tom Bombadillo. He's a merry old fellow. Bright blue is his jacket, and his boots are yellow.......or.....

[@dukesilver3491]

Anyone unsubing is lame af. Love you guys, i will always watch you and I cant wait for The Guard!

[@Welverin]

My main take away from this episode: When leaving the Grey Havens, Galadriel had to be thinking "I'm going to nag you so hard when you marry my daughter!"

[@FlyfishermanMike]

That's Tim Bombadil, Tom's all too serious, long lost cousin. The desert heat has addled his mind.

[@movoo6077]

The Show is Pretty. Thats it. Its not a secret that the story is dog shit and an obvious cure for insomnia.

[@ZephyrOptional]

Tom the wizard trainer is completely contradictory to what Tolkien wanted Tom to be. Tolkien says Tom is not improved by over thinking or developing his character. This Tom is 100% off. I blame Simon T for selling out his fathers and being dismissive of what these stories meant to them. And others… such a missed opportunity…

[@Sportsfilmappreciator]

I’ve had the same thoughts about Simon T. Why is it the rest of his family is against what he’s doing. Is he just money hungry?

[@ZephyrOptional]

@@Sportsfilmappreciator I think most people would want to capitalize off their family’s intellectual property unless seen as something more special where preservation is more important than wealth. Unfortunately, that’s the world Tolkien laments and we’re now left with the orcish social systems that mechanize and exploit the sacred for power and profit. I guess the answer is one would have to understand its importance beyond its monetary value to care enough to protect it. PJ & RB both had to fight to get their adaptations to screen. Neither are perfect but you can see the heart and spirit RoP is lacking. Hope War of the Rohirrim and other new adaptions feel more like passion projects rather than a cash grabs. We’ll see..

[@Ednawandel]

"Commodified fantasy takes no risks: it invents nothing, but imitates and trivializes. It proceeds by depriving the old stories of their intellectual and ethical complexity, turning their action to violence, their actors to dolls, and their truth-telling to sentimental platitude. Heroes brandish their swords, lasers, wands, as mechanically as combine harvesters, reaping profits. Profoundly disturbing moral choices are sanitized, made cute, made safe. The passionately conceived idea of the great storytellers are copied, stereotyped, reduced to toys, molded in bright-colored plastic, advertised, sold, broken, junked, replaceable, interchangeable." -Ursula K. LeGuin

[@RobKlarmann]

Fantastic quote! She's a true hero of writing.

[@guramigogichaishvili3903]

Perfect

I didn't even know she watched ROP

[@ozi618]

Is this show going to imitate every single scene from the Lord of the Rings trilogy?

[@zStC1]

Yeah, that is getting rather old and played out, rather quickly. I was over the memberberries after the first one.

[@MRdaBakkle]

​@@zStC1 it feels like this season has even more member berries. Maybe my memory just doesn't care to remember the first season because it was that bland. The biggest member berry from season 1 was the nazgul witch ladies.

[@paolopesare3566]

Unfortunately, yes... and I'm tried of this

[@BlackWolf-el3gu]

What has it imitated? From the films tell me

[@limitless1919]

This show wasn't made for you or me, toxic males are the problem of this show. So we don't tune in and guess who they blame? The toxic white males

[@ariesstorm9577]

Wait the Stoors are east of Mordor? I thought they were the most likely to be find near rivers and streams, or to actually go into the water. What are they doing in the middle of a desert, where water is scarce? Am I missing something here? My Tolkien lore is limited, so I thought maybe somebody here could help clarify things.

[@LittleHouseOnThePrairie23]

I appreciate you guys watching it and giving it a fair run, even if it turns out crap. I just can’t bring myself to watch it. So guys like you who are boots on the ground have my respect. We have similar enough taste, so I appreciate you guys slogging through it and bringing news from the front lines. Cheers boys.

[@poneill65]

They're running (horseless) o'er mountains because these hacks required a Jackson 360 aerial NZ member-berry (the Rohan foot-chase to rescue Merry and Pippin). This show is a nothing but checklist of movie tropes and Jackson member-berries with the worst dialog ever created draped over it.

[@TheNEWPORT200]

I just subscribed real tolkien fan here

[@TheB1nary]

@@TheNEWPORT200 same. New subscriber - loved the show.

[@TheNEWPORT200]

@@TheB1nary me 2

[@keepyourhandsup6856]

Good stuff guys. Like the fact that you try and be even handed with your review and talk about the couple things that work as well.

[@BertKarlsson-s9e]

"They're taking Celebrimbor to Saurons lair" 🎼🎶🎵🎶🎼

[@poneill65]

Jackson's rings looked like they were crafted by a master Jeweler, by someone who cared to craft something exquisite. RoP's rings look like they came out of a gumball machine outside a chip shop at the seaside.

[@BigSexyWizard]

you do know WETA workshops is the same group doing the props and effects, So you just compared WETA to WETA.

[@robbie69mn]

I've said that when I first saw them!

[@poneill65]

@@robbie69mn Well met, fellow seaside chip shop gumball afficionado! 🙂

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

So 999,999,000 went to the score, visuals and practical effects and 1 million went to the writers,actors and directors.

[@ralphdamianiart]

I found the first three surprisingly watchable. Not great television by any stretch of the imagination - but an improvement over an embarrassing first season. This one is like the first season on steroids. I just couldn’t complete most scenes without fast forwarding. Here is a good exercise in hubris and humility for prospect screenwriters with no previous accomplishments: Write a novel instead and see if you can get it published and well received. If you can’t write compelling original characters with all the time in the world, there is a good chance you’ll fail as a writer doing television. We’re watching novice writers experimenting with a billion dollar playset and failing spectacularly.

[@danksinatra7962]

In all fairness Gandalf was clumsy too, guy hit his head twice in a hole he’d been in numerous times 😂

[@carlbernard7615]

Yes but be honest, banging your head in a hobbit hole as a fully grown man is not the same as being incaple of using hands. RoP Gandalf would have been the one to drop his staff or something down the well in Moria, and Pippin would probably be a lesbian.

[@alekspoljak8668]

Not a subscriber (yet), your video just popped up in my feed and I my curiosity was pleasantly tweaked. Greetings from Melbourne Australia, I enjoyed your insight very much. Off to watch some more of your content.

[@Arabong168]

Unsubscribers are children guys don't worry about it they change their mind daily

[@Abefroman-lq3md]

The Rinhs of 💩 is a dreadful abortion of a show. Bleck elves and hobbits!!! What a joke.

[@TheBrokenSword]

💚💚💚

[@SQ_YorkshireCamping_GaSC]

I knew it was Tom before he even spoke

[@kanejenkins9580]

I can understand if you'd rather something like the rings of power than not have anything at all and you want to support the show but know these guys hate it then just don't watch their opinions why unsubscribe and hurt the channel?

[@ericfaith2810]

I do kinda wish Peter Jackson would have at least had a few extended scenes with Old Man Willow and Tom Bombadil and Goldberry. For Eru's sake, he was rumored to be Eru/Iluvatar himself un human form. Jackson could have made that great...and the Pukel men, and Pippin's friendship with the son of the Gondorian soldier. Just a few bits I wish he could have left in but ah well. That would have the trilogy even longer than 11 hours. 😂 Rings of Power? Whats that? And, does anyone know where I could possibly win a graphics card so I could play Shadow of War and Shadow of Mordor? No? Ah man....😔

[@sunfaestardust8548]

Happy New Studio SetUp!🌿🌌⚔️🕯️ ThankYou for these Streams Look forward to them💫 Happy&Grateful for The Broken Sword!!!

[@poneill65]

Mud Monster == Jackson's Moria Watcher in the Water,. Sigh, member-berry number 1,245,647.

who was pulled out of the water by a girl after Isildur and Arondil couldn't do it

[@markgregorygacosta531]

thank you for speaking out. My faith to you has been restored.

[@silentarrowz346]

People unsubscribing from your channel because of the rings of power is kind of crazy. You guys share honest thoughts and say how bad it is. If they unsubscribe from you that is sad as you guys are great!!

[@carlbernard7615]

Good honest breakdown. Don't worry about the minimal echo, the audio is fine. Stick to your principles and remain honest, you will gain far more subs than you lose.

[@wijammin6684]

The Harfoots' hidden talent: falling from great high into rocky terrain and not landing on any rocks. I suspect they can also float Mary Poppins style.

[@0u73rh34v3n]

11:24 Tom Bombadil chat

[@kongsied4279]

Bruh i haven't been keeping up with my tolkien content, and was looking to hear from you guys, youtube unsubscribed me from your channel, shit sucks man, ive been with you for years. Oh well glad to be back

[@AspieMemoires]

That is not Bombadil. Dude DNGAF about world issues. If given the Ring to take to Mordor? He would have literally thrown it away somewhere and not given a care about what was happening in Middle Earth. Yeah the people on this show *do not understand LoTR in any capacity* if it wasn’t obvious before, this one bit with Bombadil proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[@TETASARAIVACS]

But remember the History class Tom gave to our dear hobbits during their time at his house

[@TETASARAIVACS]

Not that I give a sh*t 😂 Bombadil is a senile old guy who has the very same conversations with everyone he meets throughout millennia 😅

[@poneill65]

@56:23 She didn't even have Nenya when she ""stab, twist, gutted"" the Orcs,.. she had just given it to Elrond (and was nobly sacrificing herself to protect it by fighting the orcs)

[@seanbrazell7095]

At least Elrond ain't havin' her self sacrafice FOR THEM sh*t. It's for the Rings safety. He points that out like a boss and I love it.

[@KaiTeBriga]

Wasn't Vilya the ring that amplified Elrons healing skills?

[@oviekpolugbo4227]

It sure was! Nenya's powers were protection, concealment, and preservation. So, like so many other things in the show, this makes no sense.

[@BigSexyWizard]

We are never given clear distinction to how the rings work, "healing" in tolkiens world already doesn't make sense half the time given Aragorns "healing hands of the king" so a uber powerful ring that enhances the wearers abilities with magic doesn't seem ridiculous if you actually think about the world and not the text. tolkien wrote a lot but he never clearly defined his Magic.

[@ragingheat98]

It’s just crazy to me that the creation of the rings, creation of baradur, war of the elves and Sauron, distribution of the rings of power, downfall of numenor, and the war of the last alliance all happen in less than 1 numenorean lifetime 😐

[@armenflintstone]

Wasn’t around for the live stream, but here we go: 1) the whole Galadriel/Elrond/Gil-Galad interaction is so ridiculous. 2) Elrond is being portrayed as a rebel with a cause, but makes no sense. 3) Tom wasn’t bad, but the stranger asking him how to do magic made no sense. Tom’s power is not magic…it’s his connection to the world. 4) too many tropes from the original LOTR movies, and the wrong implementation each time. I’d call it fan service, but it is the saddest fan service. 5) the rings from episode 3 are all wrong…I get they are trying to say they needed to be made to save the elves…but…I’m having as much trouble with this as I had with the acolyte - it’s like a checklist rather than a story

[@faustoutloud]

How is this a billion dollar production 😂 it blows my mind Jackson was able to do 3 movies each over 3hrs with each film only being 94 million per movie which is crazy they were able to do all that make it so good make the world feel lived in and real and make the characters as close as they could to the source material. This show the characters feel like they are making a high school theater show doing it scene by scene not making the world feel real or lived in from the characters to their clothes to the look from the sets some are nice even the music is just off and bland only their to fill up space its all just very bland and not entertaining. The Showrunners didn't go back to the books clearly and i feel they are waaaaay over their own heads and again they wanted to put their message into this series and NOT Tolkien's message and world view its really quit sad 😢.

[@faustoutloud]

Great Breakdown guys keeping it real and Pure never change. ❤ You guys are the best keep up the great work. 😊

[@aramisone7198]

Thats what Jackson said they tried not to put their own message into the film just keep it as much how the books are. And the story a small group of friends trying to win over overwhelming odds and how Sam is a real friend to Frodo then how Gimli and Legolas overcome the fact that dwarfs and elves were enemies.

[@jamesrogers1338]

Love your content! Honestly the only reason I have continued watching Rings of Power is to watch the breakdown by you two.

[@TETASARAIVACS]

Me watching and sincerely wishing it goes well: “Alright, let’s do it! C’mon, we can do it right. Ok… ok… aaaaand… NO! WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT!”

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

Everyday I go to work by getting in my car and driving but on those days when I sleep through my alarm and I’m running behind…well that’s when I get to start running 😂😂😂

[@BluePatriot1776]

This was Tom Bombadil if he retired from his jovial nature loving ways to become an insurance adjuster.

[@bigwo59]

Massively missed opportunity not casting Jack Black as Tom.

[@FlyfishermanMike]

Lizzo as Goldberry?

[@zentzisz]

It went from a neverending story getting stuck in the mud to MIB them cutting themselves out of the worm

[@leerowland9793]

LLove Ya'll, and Send that Traffic, Don't hold back.

[@AsteroidTVGaming]

thanks for the videos guys!

[@Max1990Power]

I found this episide good. I enjoyed it. But I agree that it is lacking some quality regarding writing and also travel distances regarding geography. I am also annoyed that the identity of stranger still is a mystery. I really want him to be a good blue wizard.

[@oliverjones5350]

Studio looks great guys

[@stuartedwards8188]

Hi Guys, For the whole of season one, I was more than willing to keep going and hope I enjoyed it. The whole idea of this time period being brought to life was really exciting for me. I completely understood wanting to attract new audiences and Tolkien fans by being a bit more inclusive and perhaps simplifying some of the stories and lores. In fact my, then 12 year old son, had his interest in the LOTR peaked again and our 18 year old daughter discover Tolkien for the first time because of this series. I also got the Sauron plot early on and understood why he seemed so fishy, changing from one personality to another as he tried to get his way. But season two is killing it for me, and episode 4 was the bullet that has finished me off. I can only say that poor writing, scripts and weak plot lines are the main reason. I can put up with elves with short hair and an extra few female playing dominant parts but you can’t excuse poor writing or weak plots when the story given to the scriptwriters by Tolkien is so strong and powerful. I mean, an orc complaining about going to war? FFS! And what’s really sad, is that I don’t think we’ll ever see a filmmaker or producer create an adaptation worthy of Tolkien’s world, in our lifetime. Not with our current social restraints. Perhaps and fully independent animated version or CGI, but who would pay for it?

[@fleatronic4062]

It’s like someone bought the Beatles back catalogue and released a new “Beatles” album written by themselves and then tries to convince you its a real Beatles album….

[@cjmahar7595]

It's almost like Bombadil is hiding that he's a serial killer and psychotic. I get Norman bates vibes

[@Patrick-qed]

The Stoors said Burroughs went looking for “Suzat”/“Suzan” (ph. ???). I actually kinda appreciated that spot in this gosh-awful episode. “Shire” is Sûza in Hobbitish.

[@natneto86]

What about the weird orc baby? How do you guys feel about that @thebrokensword?

[@RobKlarmann]

The one main aspect of this whole debacle is the fact that A LOT of money has gone into this. Can you imagine what anybody else (who understands good storytelling) could do with that? There are 0 excuses for this letdown!

[@fredperry3063]

I'm not unsubscribing. You're doing the right thing

[@RobKlarmann]

Saw this post today. Gotta hand it to this person...he's not wrong: "High king Fëanor" on twi...X writes: "Rings of Stupid character nerfing: Sauron, who canonically caused earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, who had Shelob as a "pet", who is known as the lord of werewolves, the 2nd in command to Morgoth, who 1v1 Huan of Valinor: In the show gets defeated by a small group of orcs and turns into floompy swamp sludge. Galadriel, who canonically shielded Eorl the Young with a white mist, who used her power to utterly destroy the fortress of Dol Guldur, who was tutored by a literal demigod, who literally created her own girdle that kept evil from entering Lothlorien: In the show has issues fighting wights. Isildur, who canonically was a mighty man of Numenor, who fiercely fought Sauron's guards to retrieve a fruit from Nimloth the Fair and succeeded, who fought bravely during the Dagorlad and cut the Ring from Sauron's hand: In the show is a little turd who gets roughed up by vagabonds. Elendil the Tall, who canonically led the Faithful away from the sinking Numenor, who founded the kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor, who along with Gil-galad fought Sauron and defeated him: In the show is literally useless. He does nothing of merit. Gil-galad, who canonically fought in wars during the late 1st age, who fought in back to back wars against Sauron, who weilded Aeglos which put fear into the hearts of his enemies. "OF WHOM THE HARPERS SADLY SING": In the show is a useless manager who sits on his arse all the time when he isn't standing like a board pontificating at people. Elrond, who canonically survived the latter part of the 1st age as a small boy, grew to be known as one of the wisest in Middle-earth, so much so that when Sauron was tempting the elves of Eregion he acknowledged it "....and wise in all lore is Master Elrond". Elrond, who founded Imladris as a shield against Sauron, who repeatedly fought against Sauron's armies during the War of the Elves and Sauron, who eventually fought in the Dagorlad and survived: In the show is decides to attempt suicide, and when that fails he goes to talk to Cirdan because he is old and wise and Elrond is young and dumb. Ar-Pharazon the Golden, who canonically was a strong man in his prime years, who took the throne of Numenor by force and led an army so strong that the forces of Mordor fled: In the show is a bearded Jack Black lookin' blowhard who calms down a mock MAGA rally by having drinks served to people. Can you imagine what a respectful adaptation of the Second Age would look like? Actually, forget that. I don't want any more adaptations. I'm sick of them. Just leave the property alone. No one in Hollyweird has the necessary skillset to pull it off, and they hate Tolkien anyway."

[@jimtunney9419]

One reason I don’t think the wizard is Gandalf and this might be a bit far fetched but…. Ian McKellen was in an interview recently as said in response to playing him again….“I won’t allow anybody else to play Gandalf” I wonder if he knew that nobody had played him yet.. meaning the stranger isn’t Gandalf? Who knows!

[@limitless1919]

This epic series has no good stories, characters, or urgency but it definitely has agency what we love to see

[@ElizabethAnne-l7c]

People are unhinged. 😂 I will never watch this monstrosity but why would I unsubscribe? You make great videos and I have been with you since you were History of Middle Earth right on through. I still have my Where Was Gondor iPhone shirt. 😅

[@TheBrokenSword]

Legend!!

[@TomBombadil-t3g]

LOTR + Aeroplane = Rings of power 😂

[@Mike_TheGrim0ne]

P.s Arondir’s armour is leather it just has the Green Man design lol It’s not wood Armour that would make even less sense .

[@Power_Prawnstar]

I always though of Tom as god or a part of god, which is why his thoughts and priotlrities were different to that of men and elves. His cares and worries are ethereal, of nature and the world.

[@AspieMemoires]

He’s in a sense a Force of Nature personified. He genuinely does not care about world issues and anything going on. These writers don’t know Jack about anything. So disappointing.

[@89technical]

The funny part is: Everything Tom Bombadil said is from the books but the writers have even managed to make Tolkien's actual words carry no impact. There's even a part where after the Ring is destroyed, Gandalf goes and spends two years speaking to Tom Bombadil, so while it is an actual thing, they just keep getting it wrong! But if it's obscure writings from the edge of the series, you can be sure they're going to cram it into the series in the worst way possible.

[@bubblehulk7647]

Bombadil is in this episode…should we do something new and exciting with him? Nah, let’s add in barrow wights and a tree that eats people. How did Gandalf and Bombadil know about Sauron at this point? Did I miss something?

[@berengustav7714]

Which is hilarious because in the book Tom's sole plot purpose is to rescue the Hobbits from the bad tree, and then the barrow-wights. They might as well do that. Right?

[@dodojesus4529]

You forget rop logic. Everyone knows everything unless it would stop the writers from whatever theyre trying to do in the next ~4 minutes

[@bradleymartin6254]

I enjoy the fan service, is it perfect? No, but I like it. And for things like how Adar speaks to Galadriel, and the choice of word for shire that the Stoors use. Theres an acknowledgement of the language and words that I only know cause I follow the Tolkien. professor who studied and understands the language. And it shows that while maybe not great writers they do have a passion for Tolkien that I enjoy. Also, I like Bombadil and his flippant use of magic and absent-minded way. And come on, they finally had a travel montage! It's something everyone's rightfully been yelling at them for!

[@otaku-sempai2197]

If you really want to play out your own stories set in Tolkien's Middle-earth, you could be playing The One Ring Roleplaying Game (Free League), maybe even using the Strider Mode solo rules.

[@TETASARAIVACS]

I don’t get affected by Tom’s clothes, because we know his description by the end of the Third Age. I mean, have he always wore blue coat and so on?

[@nickcook3948]

First pic of Bombadil I thought it was Dawn French in a beard.

[@davidmarrazzo774]

Since when did Bombadil become Yoda? Some extremely bizarre choices by the show runners. At this point it’s to be expected HBO and Amazon clearly struggle with adaptation.

[@gustavagren2976]

Everyone travels anywhere in the world in what seems like a day, all of a sudden it takes a month 😅 I’m just hate watching now

[@nstig8or]

Miramac was perfectly fine. Cool looking character, cute, nervous cuz he’s meeting new people and has a lil crush on Poppy. that was the LEAST of this shows problems

[@mjw1978]

As always, I love the deep dive, guys! The rings of power has been quite a disappointment overall, as a fellow JRRT fan and avid reader of all his works. And it isn’t just the departure from JRRT lore, but also the changes they’re looking to make are just not even realistic and accordance to it. the writing has many cringe worthy moments, especially throughout season one, and bleeding into this season. However, I have to admit, that I do think so far S2 has been superior S1, even if that bar is set very low to begin with and might not speak super highly of S2. But I have to admit again, there is more to like so far with season two then there was all of season one. I will be extremely disappointed, like you guys and many other fellow JRRT fans, if certain characters are made out to be certain characters that were not a part of Middle Earth during the Second Age. As a fellow fan, I am trying very hard to be mentally flexible with some of the liberties taken so far, but I worry about what is yet to come and the rest of this season and the next three that lie ahead. But, so far from my own perspective, I like what I’m seeing in S2 despite some logic issues that are glaring. I loved the Barrow Wights, even if some of their placement was off of center, I still love that interaction between Elrond and Galadriel, I think that dynamic is really good. And a completely unnecessary opinion, I think Theo will eventually become a Nazgûl. Am I alone in that thinking amongst fellow JRRT fans? But I’m sure I might be alone in somewhat actually enjoying this show 😂

[@BearSonOfBear]

Should be unsubscribing from the channels that shill for the show. They might as well burn Tolkien's books or spit on his grave. Keep up the good work, gents.

[@chefitaly7339]

Tol en gaurourth was Mina’s tirith in beleriand. So no where near there haha

[@rangerofthenorth1970]

I was really so into this and I wanted for this to be good but then I found myself that Im forcing myself to love this and the moment I saw that opening scene with Elrond and Galadriel having a tenage fight like 10year olds, Nori and that other Sam with that Stoor, I turned of the episode and Im not quite sure do I want continue, I probably will because Im curious about Siege of Eregion, but I dont know if thats on purpose or not, but every single villian is more charismatic and more respectfull than any heroes, soon we will get good orcs, like cmon, i will be watching this but Im not enjoying it for a second anymore, what I do enjoy is my 4k LOTR trilogy wich I will play right away

[@cklambo]

@@rangerofthenorth1970 just like the acolyte, no-one is totally good/evil everyone is shades of grey.

[@faustoutloud]

55:09 for Rebel Arena live action Fan films love it 😊.

[@yuritesticoff1141]

Any man who is a slave to anothers anger and threats of danger or loss of treasure is not a man, they are the same as those making threats.

[@poneill65]

My theory,.. The Dark Wizard is one Blue, "The Stranger" is the other. They came to M.E. together, went East on mission to oppose Sauron, one turned to creating magic cults (NazGals), the other objected, was killed by BadBlue, and was sent back (By Eru, Like Gandalf after the Balrog). That's why the NazGals and Dark Wizard immediately refer to him as "THE Istari" (not AN Istari). They wouldn't even have any reason to expect to meet AN Istari if they hadn't been involved in fighting one. Payne & McKay are just stringing out the Gandalf misdirect cos that's all they have in their toolkit, member-berries and silly tricks like "subverting expectations". I guess they could just completely rewrite Gandalf's origin (to arrive thousands of years early and go fight a Blue in the East) but that would be throwing away one of the very few open story opportunities in the rights they acquired, the very thinly detailed story of the Blues. Of course, if these people had any talent (and self- control to delay reward longer than an infant), they COULD have spent the first 2 seasons doing this story of the Blues and their failure-falling out, in parallel with Anatar infiltrating the Elves and Numenor, and setting up Numenor to be grand and good (before falling), But they couldn't. The needed instant reward and that required compressing all the big events together without earning them and delivering them immediately for instant gratification.

[@juckel147]

@@poneill65 sorry but that sounds much too intelligent for this show and would actually be a cool concept. Never gonna happen in this show.

[@RobKlarmann]

They're taking the Harfoots to Isengard!

[@cernunnos_lives]

I couldn't make it past the first season (really mid season). I'm astounded by your patience and ability to move past your own feelings. I couldn't continue without shaking lol. I can't blame Tolkien's estate holders. It's the rest of us that want to hold the corruption back.

[@davapod]

Amazon should concentrate on delivering consumer goods, rather than corrupting the works of Professor Tolkien.

[@simonjcook69]

Back when the partially complete animated film of LOTR was all that we had it was amazing. Then the Peter Jackson films were released and set the standard. Again we are in a period with The Rings of Power where something is better than nothing. Fans know what it should be like, Amazon are not quite hitting the mark and they have all the resources to do so. They don't need to reinvent it, just faithfully reproduce it. Artistic license is best applied to the gaps in the lore. They are missing the opportunity to create something classic and timeless which will not be superseded in the future.

[@Relics_of_Arda]

I decided to keep myself from watching RoP long before Season 1 came out.

[@adamjenkins9237]

One of the things that is really disappointing me about this show is that unless you already know the lore, a lot of the scenes just appear to be random things stitched together with little establishment. There are easter eggs and references to things that are not discussed much or at all. But if you know the lore, you can easily start tearing holes through things on show since it seems to go away from the lore. For myself, I don't know much of the lore outside of the Peter Jackson movies, so many things are just coming off as really goofy and bogus. I think I'm only really learning the lore of this time frame because of great lore channels such as yourselves. Unfortunate the show is turning out this way, but love this lore channel! Cheers!

[@beardkong111]

Sometimes, I feel like if this show wasn't LOTR maybe it'd be good and I'd like it... but then the next scene happens.

[@beardkong111]

And I'm talking about rings of power... to be clear

[@godders991]

I would argue that the people are unsubscribing because the want a break down of the show rather than just plain criticism. A lot of people enjoy the show regardless of the incorrect lore. The show is only based on the books not true to the books

[@DneilB007]

5:36 Haven’t seen the episode at all; but this actually sounds reasonable. Human beings can cover far more territory than horses can in a day. Bipedal persistence hunters. It’s what we evolved to do. And elves in Tolkien are humans turned up to 11. They should be capable of running perhaps 20 hours in a day. Running would be definitely faster over long distances than riding.

[@Don9872]

Supplies

[@bobsteele9581]

Thanks for putting yourselves through the harrowing experience of watching this show so that we don'r have to guys.

[@walkerlad1690]

I wonder if they didn't use the horses as it may infact slow them down, as elves they can run non-stop without much need for food and water, were as with horses over long distances they may have to stop for longer to feed and rest the horses

[@walkerlad1690]

Also, stealth would have been essential on their mission. The less they draw attention to themselves, the better.

[@jontastic]

A moment of silence for those elves with short hair, and the diverse characters who all died before the Hobbit and the LOTR. 😢😂

[@claretbloodblueveins]

You got a new subscriber here! I cant stand the show rings of power. it does not feel like middle earth to me. But The broken sword i can dig!

[@nicholaspickell7448]

You guys are great! I feel compelled to want to like this show more because the chances of getting another show like this are slim, as opposed to dislikng Acolyte cause therewill eventually be another Star Wars show (and it was incredibly bad). But this show really wants me to dislike it.

[@tombombadill22]

They got Tom Bombadil pretty right, though Goldberry is not a spirit - she is real. And the Barrow-wights section was good. The show is soo much better than season 1.

[@TheB1nary]

😂