Rings of Power Review DESTROYS Tolkien's Story - Season 2 Episode 4 Tom Bombadil

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Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power review of Season 2 Episode 4, Amazon Prime videos most expensive adaptation can't keep to the lore. Despite telling the audience that Orcs being humanised are actually just Tolkien's lore. We also introduce Tom Bombadil and entirely change his personality and motivations, which as a by product turns him evil. On top of that having Gandalf be named after a tree, harfoots meet stoors in a desert rather than a river. Wizards before there were any and Sauron being simultaneously all powerful across the continent while also unable to beat 5 orcs in a fight. This entire series is bizarre, including the accents. But what do you think of what you saw? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)

[@cosmictreason2242]

Good literature is Christian

[@gingerbaker_toad696]

There's some good in this world and it's worth fighting for

[@65Jaysee]

Thanks for watching mate so we don't have too! 👍

[@nolesquad5162]

The Stoors came from beyond the sea of Rhûn and only arrived in the Anduin around the middle of the Third Age. It’s definitely plausible that they lived in Rhun during this time. Also, they are true to the fact that Tom stays out of the affairs of Middle Earth and that tree reminds me of Old Man Willow. Sure the show isn’t perfect, but just crapping on it for clicks isn’t the right way to go about it either

[@jimmyfrench4722]

You should’ve shown a clip of the witch test when you stated you’d have tested to see if she was a witch first. People should be reminded more of the Holy Grail. Just glad I saw & read good Tolkien before this else I might think Tolkien was a crap creator & all his works & it’s derivatives would also be crap.

[@YugiSupersaiyan]

For the record, the Barrow-Wights were men from Angmar and/or the northern kingdom of Arnor. Thus, they should not have existed until hundreds if not thousands of years after the destruction of Numenor and the defeat of Sauron.

[@pharaoultra9995]

Thank you! That bothered me so much (among many other things). 🙄

[@DisFantasy]

If I'm not mistaken, they literally exist because of a Witch King curse. No Witch King, no curse.

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

In all fairness, you only know this because you read books. 😂 I still don’t understand why anybody would take such inexperienced individuals and put them in charge of anything. That also goes for show runners like Leslye (acolyte), Jessica Gao (she hulk), Mindy Kaling (velma) and the lady in charge of the show Ms. Marvel. Or who funds movies with an inexperienced Director who is also the lead actor eg. Bros.

[@AliceBowie]

​@dronesclubhighjinks They intentionally gave all those people shortener status BECAUSE they weren't fans and weren't even familiar with the material. It's big brain Hollywood stuff, I guess.

[@avgjoe5969]

I was going with: How can there be an ancient, long dead civilization this early in the creation of things. Wouldn't they be more like yesterday's dead civilization?

[@zackc3767]

Why is the casting so bad? I feel like every Elf cast in the Peter Jackson trilogy was more elvish including all the extras at Helm's Deep than the main cast of the Rings of Power.

[@georgeray1906]

Well that's because Peter Jackson made sure to select the best actors that could make convincing elves.

[@DisFantasy]

Every elf is downhill of Galadriel.

[@jamesmetcalf5597]

The casting choices get worse with every episode, this nobody character or whatever he's called is probably the stupidest looking character I've seen in this show yet.

[@wolfmauler]

​@@jamesmetcalf5597 Careful! 🤫 Not liking that character is racist 😉

[@aleksander8497]

The bad dialogue is part of it

[@LaffeeTaffeeGG]

For those in the back who don't know─ the Maiar sent five wizards to Middle-Earth specifically to help the people defeat Sauron. These five wizards knew exactly what they were doing, who each other were, and how to use their powers. In fact, they wouldn't be allowed to return unless they finished their task (which is why they yeeted Gandalf's dead ass back to Middle-Earth after he was killed fighting the balrog). RoP seems to assume that wizards just randomly fell from the sky like infants and some of them decided to pick up arms and fight Sauron for whatever reason.

[@strydyrhellzrydyr1345]

Spot on...

[@RevictionRyan]

At least if the wizard turns out to be Pallando, and not gandalf, it'll make a little more sense. It's still the wrong age but it's better then it being gandalf who clearly came over originally on a boat, about the time sauron returned to dol goldur.

[@outfit5103]

Before the fall of numenor too which was sunk by eru. And the reason the Istari were sent was because sinking a litteral island was a tad bit excessive the istari were a means of a less extreme intervention

[@outfit5103]

Also the arnorians were burying their kings before the founding of arnor apparently

[@GabrielAngelfire]

In the third age though. There were no wizards in the second age, obviously except for Sauron. The istari don't fight Sauron now.

[@n00bplayer72]

> They couldn't even get the Barrow-wights right: They're not vulnerable to the weapons they were buried with, it's just that the barrow the hobbits were trapped in happened to contain swords and daggers that were Effective vs the Undead, because that kingdom had fought against the Witch King in the past. > I swear, if the dark wizard is Saruman, it will make the other White Counsel members unbelievably stupid for trusting him. "Hey, should we trust Saruman? Hasn't he had extreme megalomaniacal tendencies for two Ages now?" "Nah, it'll be fine."

[@OneRedKraken]

Bah, they'd just say something witty like. The White Counsel members forgot about his evil ways. lol

[@llywyllngryffyn8053]

I'm not watching a TV show, I'm witnessing a crime against culture.

[@eazygamer8974]

Well said!

[@cosmicmuffin322]

Specifically, a crime against English culture and literary heritage. If any other culture's treasured book was defaced in an ideologically motivated way like this, people would call it r---ism. This double standard needs to stop.

[@llywyllngryffyn8053]

@@cosmicmuffin322 Middle Earth is based in English culture, but the work has become so beloved by so many peoples of the world, it is a part of world culture. You are correct though, it does need to stop.

[@mattteomatei3610]

Oh come on, I am enjoying it It'a not perfect but I like it.

[@iprobablyforgotsomething]

@llywyllngryffyn8053 -- Sushi is beloved by many people all over the world, too, but that doesn't make it less Japanese in origin.

[@silverscorpio24]

The more Elrond verbally slaps Galadrrrriel the more I like him.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yasss, you go, Elrond! Figures that the showrunners accidentally made him identifiable to the audience, from always having to put up with Guyladriel.

[@gingerbaker_toad696]

The more I learn of him, the less I care for him. Seems like a real jerk that guy! ;D

[@Total_Entropy36]

Yass, Yass, Yaaaaasss 🤪

[@sparkycjs]

​@@gingerbaker_toad696norm!

[@Mister_Clean]

@@gingerbaker_toad696 It's good to see that people are still using Norm Macdonald's euphemisms

[@unitron2005]

So Sauron can be killed by knives but these barrow wights just respawn immediately. Main villain indeed.

[@benwarwick4290]

The power of betrayal 😂😂😂

[@tonyvadney3314]

In fairness, they shouldn’t even be in this age. They’re raised by the witch king of Angmar in the THIRD AGE. Amazon is just really really dumb

[@majorhumbert676]

The writers mustn't care even a bit.

[@Grivehn]

More like Sauron needed hundreds of years to respawn, but yeah. Must be that pesky undead racial trait.

[@OldPanther]

The emotional damage was too much for him.

[@mattshuey1]

"I was born before the sun existed" absolutely killer burn from someone that actually knows the lore.

[@Jrdn357]

Why is it such a killer burn?

[@charissa6648]

Is that supposed to be Radagast?

[@charissa6648]

​@@Jrdn357I Don't know but I do know that the wizards were sent to middle earth to stand against Sauron. It's so bizarre that Gandalf doesn't know why he is there, because it doesn't make any sense. He would know who he is, and why he is there, and what his role is. But nothing makes sense in this show.

[@seasidescott]

@@charissa6648 - Gandalf is supposed to be in Mithlond to west and meet up with Glorfindel and Círdan (who gives him the ring Narya). That hasn't happened yet. Also he (as his Maia manifestation Olórin) was fearful of Sauron and didn't want to go to Middle Earth. This little side quest with the proto-Hobbits seems to be giving him reason to fight. Also, if he takes them with him it explains the small folk migration west to The Shire.

[@Deatheater4444]

@@Jrdn357 The Sun and Moon didn't exist in Arda (the setting of Lord of The Rings) for its first several hundred thousand years. The Ainur (angelic spirits like Sauron and Gandalf) predate the existence of the universe, as they helped create it. Incidentally, an elf of Galadriel's age would also be older than the Sun, as she was born in the later Age of The Trees. To make a very long story short, the Sun and Moon were created from a fruit and flower of the Trees of Valinor, Laurelin and Telperion, respectively. These are the titular trees of the Age of The Trees, and were the light sources for Valinor (essentially Heaven). They were killed by Morgoth, the Bigger Bad of the entire story, plunging the world into total darkness until the Valar created the Sun and Moon as an imperfect replacement.

[@ironagemedia2794]

Barrow wights were basically the spirits of Kings of the Ancient kingdom of Arnor, corrupted by the Witch-King. Only issue is, Arnor is Ancient in terms of the time for the War of the Ring, at this time, Arnor shouldn't exist yet, and the Witch-King also dosn't exist yet. But you know...."Back to the Books" as they say

[@OneRedKraken]

So not only are they transposing the themes of LOTR unto their show. They are also too stupid to properly transpose the lore from the LOTR books to make it fit in the age of their show. Lovely.

[@RoninDave]

there's twisting of detail to make a story play better on the screen like Eomer riding to Theoden's rescue at Helm's Deep instead of a minor character like Erkenbrand then there's ROP just absolutely breaking the story to pieces. With the former, the main details of the story are unchanged - the king saved at the last minute and Saruman's army destroyed. With the latter, Tolkien gave us in the story and appendices the reasons Barrow-wights existed. It gave them a more grounded reality instead of just some nameless kingdom of men who for some reason also had a Barrow-wight infestation.

[@malseniusp2682]

watching "galadriel" act with authority has the same effect as a 5 year old commanding his parents for juice.

[@Christiand2821]

I'm legitimately so uninterested in the Harfoot storyline that I even skip it when YOU'RE doing it...

[@KalleLagerlof]

me too

[@Garret007]

Now that is really saying something about the storyline xD

[@37Sith]

But but grand Elf err I mean not Gandalf is there

[@AliciatheCho]

Shall I put together a compilation of all Harefoot scenes for sleep ASMR?

[@desertmammoth3159]

@@AliciatheCho I mean you could, but I feel like some kind of international police organization like the ICC would be hot on your case, so check your country's existing treaties with those types of organizations.

[@LFCMatthijs]

I refuse to believe braincells were involved in the making of this episode

[@j-ayche07]

Brain cell were sacrificed in the making of this episode.

[@Jamesmatise]

@@j-ayche07 just one, though. By the other one.

[@georgelooney8949]

A ruined, twisted form of brain cells. 😂

[@rogerhalt3991]

Both seasons*

[@gingerbaker_toad696]

I would like to hear an open and honest conversation of the showrunners bts, they have to know what they are doing... but i need to know why?! WHYYYYYY?!

[@brainflash1]

"I was born before the sun existed. I actually don't know how I ended up this way."

[@ThePariahDark]

Maybe he stood too close to the Two Trees. Got a Suntree burn, and it just never healed.

[@Andreas_42]

​@@ThePariahDark To dark for a sunburn. Clearly black skin cancer. 😉

[@homelander2243]

Comparing this to House of dragons is like trying to measure which piece of poop is bigger

[@Jrdn357]

@@homelander2243 How? HotD is actually good. The S2 finale was pretty shit but the rest is between good and fucking fantastic. RoP doesn't even have that much cool CGI or epic battles to warrant it's disgustingly massive budget.

[@homelander2243]

@@Jrdn357 not at all. Boring as shit compared to the book, they change a lot of peoples role and focus on drama. Terrible show

[@thedarkone9552]

The greatest mystery of Middle-earth, the nameless things, were reduced to a swamp worm.

[@namenloss730]

"our friend is a giant" "an elf" "no bigger" "a grand-elf" Please minecraft my brain now

[@JackChurchill101]

🤮 - and Nori is the matriarch of modern hobbits of the shire, who by the end of season 5 will go to "the land of rivers and hills" and found the shire. And Grandelf will promise to check in on them from time to time. 🤮

[@ChaoticYak1]

Honestly, if the writers genuinely think this is clever, they are absolutely incompetent.

[@namenloss730]

​@@ChaoticYak1honestly i spent all of season 1 thinking: halbrand can't be sauron, he raises too many red flags, it's obviously a misdirect. Turns out it wasn't now i keep thinking grandelf looking for his gand is just a bait and switch because they'll want to seem clever but i seem to have difficulty projecting in the mind of these morons

[@RoninDave]

@@ChaoticYak1 the audience who actually likes this crap probably thinks it IS clever which is why gate-keeping source material from slack-jaw imbeciles isn't a bad thing

[@ananana5200]

He's the Hodor of ROP

[@ethanmoon3925]

"Do you know why a boat floats and a stone sinks?" "Displacement."

[@JoesCornerstadios]

Replace stone with poo even better

[@kathleenhensley5951]

The real answer Thank you!

[@funkydiscogod]

So, what happens if you make a boat out of stone?

[@chrisschultz6129]

@@funkydiscogod the part that looks up floats; the part that looks down sinks . . . duh

[@Blodhelm]

@@funkydiscogod Same thing as if you make one of metal, as long as the shape and size are right.

[@the-hooded-man]

I'm shocked about how they keep destroying Galadriel's character. A character filled with wisdom, mystery, and class, and here we see her pouting like a petulant toddler because Elrond got ice-cream, and she didn't. Tolkien must be twisting and turning in his grave.

[@kagyubeef]

Yes this was one of the wisest, most powerful (magically/energetically) elves in all of middle earth, who used to commune with Maiar in Dorian in the first age, and they've devolved her into a short girlboss swordswoman who constantly sneers and whinges. It's absolutely appalling, a total disgrace, it shits all over what Tolkien wrote, and they are so revolting the way they are manipulating search results and they're own reviews in order to claim they are adhering to the lore. I hate them, all of them, so much.

[@the-hooded-man]

@@kagyubeef I totally agree with you. In the books and movies, Galadriel was loved by people who encountered her, apart from her enemies who feared her. I just can't imagine any character in ROP who comes across Galadriel, and doesn't instantly despise her.

[@Matteuccishane]

@@kagyubeef screen writers they thought they upgraded her character but end up downgraded her character to the point where she became just a useless keren

[@DrakeTimbershaft]

I knew about Tim Bumberdildo showing up as well as the Stoor samples, but I was NOT expecting the Barrow-Wights that didn’t come into being until the reign and fall of the kingdom of Arnor IN THE THIRD AGE. Oh, and the Dark Wizard? He’s not Saruman, or a Blue Wizard, or a future Nazgûl, he’s just another invention Payne and MacKay pulled out of their conjoined buttcrack.

[@lore_shards]

You've got the name wrong I think....the "stools"

[@dendrien]

Tom Bombadil is supposed to be an oblivious childlike character who’s easily forgetful. Why the main reason in the books Gandalf thought it was a bad idea to give the ring to him when Elrond suggested it. For the fact Tommy would simply forget the ring and discard it somewhere. But here. Yeah I knew this would be trash but man.

[@DrakeTimbershaft]

@@lore_shardsDetails, details. 🤪

[@Arcessitor]

Tom Bombadil is also tied to his domain, which is the Old Forest. The Old Forest used to be very big, but it was always a forest. This is not a forest.

[@mxvega1097]

It's Bruce. Bruce of the Istari. Played rhythm guitar. Very prog.

[@MattFoote]

Galadriel's fight with the orcs is the worst choreographed fight I've seen. She sets two orcs on fire right next to a horse, that doesn't even flinch, she jumps onto the horse by running right next to an orc with a sword who is holding onto the horse's reins, but does nothing. She then fights multiple orcs while on the horse, still just standing there btw, but the orcs all seemed to forget that they had bows and could just shoot her. And to top it all off, the lantern that she explodes with an arrow (why on earth would she think it would do that?) she grabbed with her bare hand but it did nothing to her. The whole thing was just terrible.

[@wiredcer]

the worst thing is that elves are supposed to be super aware and intelligent, and then one of them just stood there with a random arrow in his gut that none of the others even noticed fly right past them. The entire combat sequence shouldnt even have happened. It wasnt just the choreography it was the editing and direction....in each shot you could see orcs just standing still not reacting to anything.

[@OneRedKraken]

After Galadriel just took a pyroclastic flow to the face. And ended up "dusty" as a consequence. I understood that the writers weren't even going to bother and pretend that the character isn't fully insulated with plot armor. So these things are just par for the course at this point. lol

[@wiredcer]

@@OneRedKraken nah watch that scene again. She actually closed her eyes right before the pyroclastic flow hit her, so it made perfect sense she took no damage and not even her hair/armour was even singed.

[@aneh8029]

I don’t think a wanderer has a permanent domicile. I don’t think the writers know what a wanderer means.

[@hardkore360]

Maybe he wanders in his domicile like an idiot 😂

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

"Galadriellleell, my Washing Machine has broken down" "This could only have been the work of Saurrroonnnrrnn"

[@ggrarl]

So for Guy-ladriel, Sauron is her equivalent of "Dinkleberg!"

[@SpadeApeiron]

Galadriellle ~ "Uuuuugghhhhhuhhh!"

[@The_Primary_Axiom]

That is not the job of a strrrrrong woman! Ask Celebrrrrttrimborrrrrrr

[@chapman3713]

We must get word to the esteemed Elven artisan Calgon. For he hath the knowledge to make washing machines last longer.

[@ggrarl]

@@chapman3713 Calgon, take me away!

[@Jamesmatise]

I loved the part where Sauron started to rap "Hi, my name is, what? My name is, who? My name is, Anatar." Catchy tune!

[@Adelina-293]

I love how he tried blaming the Warriors for killing Cyrus right before he had a falling out with Doc Holliday..... or was it Arnold. Schwarzenegger?

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

This honestly has serious "My name is, my name is, my name is... Charles the Second!" energy to me.

[@eazygamer8974]

You mean anitarrrrrrrrrr

[@8Aerondight8]

AnaTARD!

[@AliceBowie]

​@@Adelina-293​@Adelina-293 is this referencing David Patrick Kelly? Although I don't know about the Doc Holliday part.

[@Infinite_Mortis]

I prefer to give you the views instead of the creators of the show, you’re much more entertaining

[@digitalcareline]

Now we're just playing Tolkien Bingo Stoors - Tick Ents - Tick Istari - Tick Old Man Willow or one of his cousins - Tick Giant eagle - Tick Super bonus for rarity - Entwives - Tick A Maiar, Possibly the Green Man, The ultimate contrarian but Most definitely Tom Bombabdil - Tick Goldberry was possibly off doing Musical theatre Barrow Wights - Tick Giant millipede thing - Not a tick but nice try White phosphorus lanterns - not appearing in the books but pretty cool Once again Glorfindel has been edited out. What has the only elf so badass that he was returned from the dead got to do? Avari - Too bad but thanks for playing

[@daveeyes]

Good list! And true.

[@evansabahnur3383]

time-travel - tick because barrowwights exist only due to the curse of angmar that happpened looong after the fall of numenor. that is still afloat.

[@digitalcareline]

@@evansabahnur3383 This feels like a bonus round - I would like to know more about the people who raised the barrows and the sad story Tom alludes too with the broach from the barrow. Tolkien knew how to leave the audience wanting more.

[@iprobablyforgotsomething]

@stobiepiel2585 -- And later on, according to some perhaps accidental vibes in the Hobbit trilogy, Gandalf. No wonder he didn't go west with her after the destruction of One Ring but knocked on Thranduil's door and asked if he and a few friends could move into an unoccupied corner of the forest.

[@makingabusinesswithmoe]

Isn’t Galadriel supposed to be like 6’3”? One of the tallest female Elves?! They make her look like she’s 5’4”.

[@bz6046]

Because Morfydd Clark is 5'4"

[@jayeckson]

Tall, stately, elegant, and wise. As timelessly beautiful as the dawn. Powerful, yet also graced by a gentle humor. But I guess "before that" she was just some short angry lady.

[@ilfirinms]

@@jayeckson Hey, in this book "how to write" is stated, hero should undergone character growth. How she could grow, if she was tall already? Got you

[@Arcessitor]

@@bz6046 And Ian McKellen isn't 4x as tall as Elijah Woods. Somehow they still made that work.

[@KayJay940]

I like spinners

[@florinnatu]

02:53 "Cats don't purr, they're just speaking elvish" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 killer

[@Fantasyish]

Needs to be on a tshirt 😂

[@amandanowicki5294]

My cat just told me to f off in elvish

[@TheGruntski]

What is it with all the rolling of the Rs anyways. Now it's Celebrrrrrrimborrrr...rrrrrr. Sure, lots of languages require that you have to roll your R's, but somebody should tell Amazon that if you roll it more than three times, you're playing with it.

[@florinnatu]

@@Fantasyish totally! 😅

[@florinnatu]

@@amandanowicki5294 👏🤣🤣

[@arizona_anime_fan]

My favorite part was when Gil-galad took one of the elven rings and said "It is perfect" then Galadriel took another elven ring and said "no, this is SPARTA!" and kicked Elrond into a deep pit. So stunning and so brave. I was in tears.

[@bullmoose5574]

Oh, I thought she said "It will be, when it fits a woman"

[@arizona_anime_fan]

@@bullmoose5574 that's the beauty of the scene. you're expecting her to girlboss, but you aren't expecting her to emasculate elrond too in the scene. so stunning.

[@AdamMcGrath]

I liked the part when Guyladriel asked to see the Manager Of The Rings.

[@bullmoose5574]

@@arizona_anime_fan stunning.

[@thomaswilks8534]

I want to like your comment but its at 69 right now

[@unitron2005]

"We go south" This entire show has gone south.

[@daveeyes]

Well said!

[@chrishansen7104]

🤣

[@rutgerkerpel306]

It was already "off the charts" when it aired (the first season). 😀

[@zacharyboudreau9127]

This show is like an amateur D&D session full of meta gamers and a DM unaware of his campaign’s lore

[@dhmadbone]

But they were, all of them, deceived, for another Umbrella was made.

[@bridgetsilver7332]

🤣🤣

[@slightlyniceron]

"wouldn't two Halflings not just make a Ling" Guess 4 Halflings are a LingLing then

[@Ancientreapers]

Ling. That reminded of the Benny Hill song. "I'll stick me finger in me ear and go ting-a-ling-a-loo, Me finger in me ear and go ting-a-ling-a-loo" 🤣

[@dcpack]

Now I need a Yuenling.

[@Sky-xd2nu]

Ling ling!! Your phone linging!!😂

[@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoffIV]

4 halflings equal a panda

[@blackscorpionstinger]

FullLing

[@MannlyButzz]

If Elrond accidentally evolves into a complete chad- I will be so happy!

[@matwatson7947]

He's already there.

[@Grivehn]

Woke has a way to write accidentally based and/or logical characters, but always, desperately make them want to look like the villains. Because reason and logic is the complete opposite to their emotional nonsense.

[@Adara007]

At this point I think most genuine fans of Tolkien's legendarium don't really care much since RoP has already trashed the lore. I can't get over the ridiculous hair cuts and look of the show's elves which are so far off what Tolkien described.

[@Blisterdude123]

I have to be honest, I wasn't sure in season 1 but Robert Aramayo's casting as Elrond is probs one of my favourite things in the show now. It does feel like the writers have accidentally managed to put him onto a half-decent character arc, from poet and diplomat, to the warrior and general we see in the Last Alliance. I don't know, I guess they could still ruin it, but...thus far in season 2, Elrond is cooking. It just makes me think Elrond should've been the protagonist of this story, and Galadriel in a supporting role.

[@Joe-rk9uy]

Wit

[@oskariratinen1213]

Celebrimbor has an "aspiration" for immortality? He IS immortal! How stupid are these critics?

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

I think they mean immoral, not immortal.

[@cyrus2395]

​@@DEATH-THE-GOATso he aspires for immorality? Lol

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

@@cyrus2395 I dunno, but where this dumpster fire is heading, yes, yes he is

[@luchi850]

No, not in Middle-Earth. Elves are immortal only through the passage of time, but their souls grow ever weak and weary the longer they remain in Middle-Earth - hence the ever longing to travel West to the 'Undying Lands' - named because that's where the Elves live forever. The entire plot of the Elves in lore and even in the Peter Jackson movies - is that without the Rings of Power creating pocket versions of Valinor- such as areas of Valinor like purity in Rivendell and Lothlorien - the 'times of the Elves' will be over and they must sail West. I mean...this is literally the premise of the entire LOTR Peter Jackson trilogy, with a major storyline focused on the Elves diminishing in power and deciding to leaving Middle Earth for good once their 'Rings of Power' become useless.

[@scottybreuer]

​@@luchi850 Sure, but it still takes a long time. Mirkwood doesn't have a Great Ring and those elves were still kicking in the 3rd Age. Arguably out of sheer necessity given the constant threat coming from Dol Guldur. Those elves are obviously younger than the ones who lived in Valinor, but the original point stands.

[@xshiromorix]

As much as everyone hates on this version of Galadriel who is not even worthy of the name (and I'm right there with them), I think the character assassination that I can least forgive in this show is Celebrimbor's. Celebrimbor was a brilliant smith who vehemently did not want to repeat the mistakes of his father and grandfather, and Sauron twisted that and used it against him. It was tragic, and Celebrimbor's attempt to make it right, even though he ultimately failed and died for it, was heroic. This Celebrimbor is an incompetent moron with no skill, no ingenuity, and no resolve. It's disgusting.

[@gabrielcruz6752]

23:12 There are few details in the books, but it seems that Sauron's infiltration among the elves was a complete success because Sauron was so *smart* and skilled, he studied the minds and deep desires of the elves so well, that Sauron never had the need to use lethal force to get his tactical goals: to take the High King out of the game and to take over the Smith's Guild of Eregion, before the forging of the One Ring. Sauron was so smart and smooth in that moment that Gil-Galad and Galadriel chose to respect Celebrimbor's decision of sheltering Annatar in Eregion, even though the High King and Lady Galadriel did not agree with Celebrimbor and stated clearly their distrust. Or at least they decided not to take authoritarian measures to stop Annatar and Celebrimbor. Sauron let the "spooky" stuff, inside the kingdom of Gil-Galad, to start happening to the very *last* moment, when all of the other rings were already finished. Amaz°n is distorting the geography of Middle Earth, its history, integrity, complexity, role and intelligence of the characters, distorting the logic sequence of events designed by Tolkien himself (a sequence clearly available in the source material licensed to Am4z°n), they are copy-pasting the passages from the 1st book of the Fellowship of the Ring that PJ never used, just for the sake of creating tension and conflict, tension and conflict that feels really fake. Sauron in the books, when dealing with the elves as Annatar, was a real smooth chess player. Am4z°n didn't get that.

[@Seomus]

Sauron is the character that when Ar-Pharazon (who in the book is like Alexander the Great chad-level of competency) marched the might of numernor to Mordor, Sauron realized he could not win even with the One Ring. so he surrenders. Within 10 years, he has the Numenorians worshiping Morgoth (his old boss) with human sacrifices and is Ar-Pharazon's right-hand man. He gets Ar-Pharazon to invade Valinor to claim immortality and throw down the other gods. Tell me if either show Sauron or show Ar-Pharazon will at all live up to that. The whole Fall of Numernor could be its own five season show with all the Game Of Thrones stuff Amazon wanted.

[@iamrubenmes]

Aho

[@Beard_Hood]

A thing made for everyone is made for no one. A thing made for 10 people is also a thing made for no one. Then there is RoP, which is just setting money on fire.

[@funkydiscogod]

Rings of Power is made for KZbinr reviewers.

[@Blisterdude123]

No, a thing made for 10 people is at LEAST made for SOMEONE, surely? A very few someones, but someone nonetheless?

[@Winterydee]

The better question about the orc vs. elf fight is how did the horse the orcs were chasing without any tackle on it ,end up with full tackle on it when she jumps on top of it? Really, when they are chasing it, it has no saddle, no bridle and then when she jumps on top of it, there is a bridle and saddle!

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

10:38 Good grief, why is it not surprising they introduced Bombadil by ripping off his introduction in the Lord of the Rings? This is no more Tom Bomadil than Guyladriel is actually Galadriel. And WTF is he doing in Rhun??? Even just watching these plot recaps is painful enough, I couldn't survive the show itself. Also, WHY THE FREAK ARE THE WIGHTS ALTEADY IN THE BARROW DOWNS??? Everyone knows the Witch King sent them there in the war against Arnor in the Third Age! These writers don't know a single thing about the lore they couldn't have learned by watching the movies!!!

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yeah Nerdrotic was sure they'd be bringing in the barrow wights. These showrunners are that predictable.

[@ChaniElkin]

@@justthinkingoutloud2538 I've had the pain of knowing about the RoP Tom Bombadil and the Barrow Wights since they first got announced (Evidently Tom is like a One Ring to them). He's unintentionally hilarious though because: Tom Bombadil and his Cornish voice... 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 I can't breathe! I'm only 9 minutes in - I won't survive 😂 He's literally Max in the 'Harper's Locket' episode of "The Goes Wrong Show"!! A British comedy series vastly superior to Rings of Power. KZbin recently paywalled the 1st season but Dailymotion has the episodes. The movies 'Peter Pan Goes Wrong' & 'Christmas Carol Goes Wrong' are still free on KZbin. I highly recommend for genuine high quality entertainment.

[@insensitive919]

When the Star Wars EU was decanonized it spread to the other fantasy universes. If it's not corporate slop, then it's not real.

[@Blisterdude123]

This makes me a little sad, because Rory Kinnear was a bit of casting that in the right hands could've been perfectly wholesome, cosy, charming, and just a 'little' bit apropriately unsettling as Tom Bombadil. I knew they'd screw him up though. Frustrating.

[@SuperBitsandBob]

They have absolutely no idea how power works in the lore. With the Barrow Wights (who wouldn't be there anyway), proper Galadriel would be like "Look lads, I'm Galadriel from Valinor, Daughter of Finarfin who has seen the light of the Tree's, you should probably move along". And they would. Just nonsense.

[@PeoplePleaser578]

Well they mentioned the Etten Moors earlier in the show - Which also would not have existed because Arnor didn’t exist and wasn’t destroyed yet.

[@S1ipperyJim]

@4:53 The extra guy is playing the coconuts of course!

[@JonasGrumby-OO]

Any excuse for a Team America montage is a good excuse

[@ChaoticYak1]

I prefer the combine harvester. :D

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

Ladies, I'm single, and I too have an umbrella. Please form an orderly line.

[@bridgetsilver7332]

That might be the most glorious comment I’ve ever read! 🤣

[@insensitive919]

Is it raining men? Hallejuha!

[@Lord_Numpty]

Ah, but YOU are not an Elf! As such, you are actually effected by the weather, unlike the Elves as shown when Legolas, wearing light shoes, scouted ahead through a blizzard while the rest of the Fellowship were stuck in a snowbank. Alas, they shall not flock to you, for unlike this travesty they dare to call Celebrimbor, you are not a *MASSIVE PANSY.*

[@MajorSmurf]

Tips that every writer should know. - If a story element achieves no growth or plot progression... YEET IT - Side plot points must interweave with the overall narrative or you guessed it... YEET IT - A story is not reality, attempting to put in mundane things will make a mundane story... be fast and precise. There is a reason not even Tolkien tells how many times every one of his characters had to crouch behind a bush to take a shit. - A story must never confuse bs pseudo intelligent arguments for actual character revelations... Hello ROP Dialogue... do you know why a cat lands on all fours while a dog can not? OMG ITS NOT A REVELATION! - Character logic and personality does not remove them of common sense. If there's an easy to see solution, every character will take it unless they have good reason not to. In ROP common sense rolled over, died from drinking too much, was than kicked down a hill before getting revived into a soggy spaghetti monster. - Character relationships are dynamic, changing with every plot beat. Why does Gil-Galad trust Elrond and Galadriel to even face Sauron? Not even taking in the fact that they've both went against their king several times now but Sauron is a demi-god, they know this. What are these two going to do when they get to Eregion? Ask him nicely to stop? THERE IS A REASON ELVES NEEDED ARMIES!

[@blackscorpionstinger]

They should watch how mundane every day dialogue were supposed to change according to relationship like in The Bear

[@BinkyTheElf1]

😳 Are you challenging the shining wisdom of show-ruiners Pain & Mmmmkay? How DARE you! 😉

[@chrishansen7104]

That's sound advice. That the RoP writers should need such advice is rather less than sane, but there it is. Of course your explaining this to blank-faced brick walls that are too busy trying to figure out how they will 'ship Elrond and Celebrimbor (because I mean surely Tolkien wanted to do that) but it's a worthy effort at least. A billion-dollar production, and this is the 'talent' they hire to write for it. SMH

[@tkps]

@@chrishansen7104 When you think 2 'writers' with a single episode's credit between them in 10 years were able to bullshit their way into this job and a massive budget by convincing the head honcho of Prime they were experts on Tolkien what does that say about her ability or lack thereof? I begin to think the whole damn lot of them are incompetent baffoons.

[@ryanmason2502]

Can't wait til Galadriel ignites her Ring Saber, yells "I am all the elves!" and stabs Saurons eye out, showing us why he only has one eye on LOTR.

[@AvonBlake]

I think Rory Kinnear as Tom Bombadil deserves a BAFTA for, in a single scene, navigating through all of the following regional accents (in order): Yorkshire, Leeds city, Somerset, Norwich county, Bristol and Lancashire. No one since Tony Hancocks appearance in the Bownmans has covered as much dialectical ground in a single scene. Bravo!

[@Gomezli16]

They’re not even trying to hide that Galadriel is a short, dumpy woman anymore.

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

"Tom's a wanderer, not a warrior." Ok, so.. why didn't he wander off when the land turned to desert? Desertification would take hundreds, if not thousands of years, so he's probably lived in that very same shack for at least a thousand years. Not much actual wandering happening.

[@Apollo890]

And I guess they kinda forgot this book quote: "Tom's country ends here, he will not cross the border. Tom has his house to mind, Goldberry is waiting". J R R Tolkien Or more likely never read it.

[@kimjohansen5687]

Well, Mordor got created in 1 day so a desert would only take a few hours in this oh so great show

[@rafaelgustavo7786]

Sauron was supposed to be a pseudo Promethean figure generating religious engineering in Harad and Rhûn with the metallurgical revolution he made in the east and south. He was like Mephistopheles from Goethe's Faust or Azazel from the book of Enoch or even Lucifer from Paradise Lost. In the show he is a Simp.

[@jcorbett9620]

As Disparu likes to point out, he's one of the characters "with dangly bits" so of course he has to be either stupid, incompetant, weak, pathetic, a simp or a combination of some or all of these attributes.

[@DrakeTimbershaft]

You, sir, are a well versed man. To paraphrase ZZ Top, “Ev’ry elf-maid’s crazy ‘bout a well versed man.” Unless you’re Guyladriel. She’s just crazy and wouldn’t understand the lyrical profundity of Billy Gibbons.

[@MiaogisTeas]

Do you really think any of those writers are well-read?

[@pepincuatro2865]

@@MiaogisTeas You think they can read?

[@AliceBowie]

Yeah, Morgoth wanted to ruin Arda out of being disgruntled over the fact that he didn't have the Fire to create life. Sauron joined up because he hated disorder and chaos, and thought that he could make Arda nice and orderly by forcing everyone to do what he wanted. But each time he was vanquished and came back he forgets his good intentions more. It's funny that he can't really be killed, after the ring is destroyed in Mt Doom, he's just a powerless mental presence that can't do anything, but can't stop existing, either.

[@Arcessitor]

Tom Bombadil is tied to his domain, which is the Old Forest. The Old Forest used to be very big, but it was always a forest. This is not a forest.

[@gorbo3040]

having only forest is insensitive to other, minority environments, such as desert. Forest is also a racist.

[@skyevens8756]

​@@gorbo3040😂😂😂😂😂

[@sancocho1718]

Why do the elves, in this series not look like elves? Mote like disgruntled, middleanagers at an AA meeting.

[@Mehiel-Sanctoria]

They look like rejected hobbit applicants for LOTR.

[@imcubanb2870]

The rings of one. The rings of two. The rings of manyyyyyyyyyyy.

[@Kal_g]

We now return to "Disparu losing his mind..."

[@Sousabird]

Gandalf didn't stray out of thought and time for this.

[@DamienBlade]

Galadriel isn't a Mary Sue. Mary Sue characters do everything perfectly, everyone loves them, and never messes up. Galadriel messes up constantly, gaslights people into thinking she didn't, and nobody likes her. Her only real advantage is that the writers make every other character in the show believe the bullshit she says.

[@ssharp755]

You underestimate the writers, they are SO bad that they manage to portray their 'Mary Sue' intended character that poorly! Also, note that the universe ultimately always bends to make her every mistake impactless on her own life or an impact that lasts only long enough to portray her as a nobly intended victim of fate who bears her burden stoically - before she moves straight back into the girlbossing and being ultimately vindicated in the writers eyes... Remember, she CREATED Sauron as a threat, then failed to inform others of the critical details of who they involved with the creation of the elven rings PURELY out of self involved ego.... by rights she should be cast out of all positions of counsel & authority in utter disgrace and yet, the only price she faces is some passive agressive jibes from the High king and Elrond, being placed under Elronds command (and then having every decision he makes contrary to her suggestions cause calamity) and even whilst her every action to that point makes her appear unworthy is uncontestedly rewarded with a ring of power... just because. If you don't think the character remains a mary sue (authors inserted ICON character) just because legalistically speaking she isn't PERFECT in every instance... you really don't know what you're describing. The term has come to encompass far more than one Star Trek fan-fiction writers erotic daydream self insert into a TV series.

[@eazygamer8974]

Then she's a Mary Karen!

[@Coconut-219]

@@eazygamer8974 I was going to go with "Kathy Sue"...

[@damienruzco]

“Go burn down a target or something no one cares” -Disparu

[@russelhill9721]

They have made Elrond a fair bit less gay this season. That's something.

[@apricot2879]

Lmaooo

[@Ewil.Bluetooth]

He looks like a gameshow host.

[@murtangames]

Agent Smith walked so eurodance gay elrond could run

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

El grond.

[@kagyubeef]

It's nothing. The whole show is nothing. They're just using the names of characters from LoTR but they aren't even remotely those actual characters.

[@swizzamane8775]

"Cats arent purring, their just speaking Elvish!" I laughed SO hard at this, then I started doing the Rongs of Power "rrrrr" roll... My cat thought i was talking to her 🤣i fkin cant 😂 that was too good

[@MaesterMike]

I seriously can't believe how they spend so much time on so little. We're halfway through this season, and NOTHING IS EVEN HAPPENING! How do you write like this? It's absolutely baffling. And the nerve of them to not only include Tom Bombadil, but make him so bland and boring. This proves beyond a shadow of the doubt they've never read the books, because OUR Tom Bombadil would never be so lifeless.

[@ChaniElkin]

He's unintentionally great. Tom Bombadil and his Cornish voice... 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 I can't breathe! I'm only 9 minutes in - I won't survive 😂 He's literally Max in the 'Harper's Locket' episode of "The Goes Wrong Show"!! A British comedy series vastly superior to Rings of Power. KZbin recently paywalled the 1st season but Dailymotion has the episodes. The movies 'Peter Pan Goes Wrong' & 'Christmas Carol Goes Wrong' are still free on KZbin. I highly recommend for genuine high quality entertainment.

[@Br4dSp34d]

every modern show is just a movie script that's stretched into a series and stuffed with empty filler. Season 1 had almost the same runtime as as the Extended trilogy and had less character building and story than the first half of Fellowship of the Ring

[@MaesterMike]

@@Br4dSp34d I know. It baffles me how these showrunners have been able to get away with scripting like this for so long.

[@majorhumbert676]

There was an interview where the screen writers confessed that they only learned about the Lord of Gifts after they had written part of the script. (It could have been another topic, I don't quite remember). So evidently, they haven't read Tolkien.

[@Adara007]

Exactly right. The script is a disgrace with so much flat, cheesy and frequently unnecessary dialogue to pad out the episodes. Also it's not just Tom Bombadil's personality or lack thereof they've made so bland but his environment. The actual Tom Bombadil would have made a lovely home even if he did move to a desert-like region. They so clearly didn't bother reading let alone care about respecting Tolkien's legendarium.

[@Pandemona01]

"We can see your hair from a hundred miles away"...man...I haven't laugh this hard in a while. Thank you.

[@TheJakeAshby]

The elves in this god awful show are so pathetic. When Elrond and Guyladriel come across the orc army they have to send someone back to Lindon to warn them. Do the elves not have scouts and trackers covering their lands? Do they all just sit by their glowing tree all day wondering what is going on "out there"? Surely they would have mobilised already? Or are there so few elves (we never see more than a few at a time) that they can only do one thing at a time? This ROP version of Middle Earth is so small and insignificant

[@batistabart]

Did anyone notice how they sent the killed messengers on horses but the elf party decided to go by foot to warn Celebrimbor about Sauron (while also thinking how he is already there)?

[@ssharp755]

Not to mention warping the geography, Mordor is FAR to the South & West of Eregion, this army has crossed the entire plains of what would become Rohan and presumably hooked around the bottom of the misty mountains...or even more improbably come around from the north (because there's no other way Elronds party would 'intercept' them) all of this without any word of a massed formation of orcs spreading before them? That and Elrond's party have somehow diverted PAST Eregion in order to be in a position to intercept this incoming force... not to mention that travelling on foot (or even by horse) to Eregion from Lindon is far less efficient (and safe) than setting sail around the southern coast and up a very conveniently navigable river right to their gates because where else do you think you set up your capital than on such a transportation promoting position.....

[@blankadams3120]

"We will need two swordsmen and an archer..." "Three elves, got it."

[@Jezza_One]

Where do the elves keep their armies Up their slevies.

[@insensitive919]

Hopefully they roll good stats

[@VleesetendPlantje14]

Love how the showrunners couldn’t help themselves and threw another “elf of colour” in chains lol Also of course the black guy ends first like in every horror movie ever…

[@BlueFrog.A.I.]

They need one archer and two swordsmen for their D&D party. The last one is the DM who carries the book and the dices

[@baconghoti]

Die singular, dice plural, dices illiterate.

[@BlueFrog.A.I.]

​@@baconghoti You want me to die singular? I don't get it

[@harbl99]

It's the cameraman. He forgot to get out of the long shot in time.

[@Medcanpoet]

Orc 1: "What's Adar's last name?" Orc 2: "Kelf." Orc 1: "So...he's Adar Kelf?" Orc 2: "Yep."

[@AliceBowie]

Gandalf and the other wizards aren't allowed to directly fight Sauron with magic. They are only supposed to advise the free people. Tom Bombadil probably isn't allowed to interfere, either. The Valar fought against Morgoth, but leave Sauron to Elves and Men.

[@goochmcduck4285]

Tom could actually do whatever tf he wants right! Like he’s his own creation. Like a byproduct of the world being made? Not rolled or controlled by anybody, but I think he just doesn’t give a shit. He just wants to be Tom. Idk always seemed like that in the books. He’s distracted and likes just being with his beautiful wife

[@alvaro.martinez]

Tom simply doesn't care (in the books).

[@Edge50199]

After seing DIsparu having 55 minute rant of the latest Rings of power episodie, I afraid that critical drinker is in some ER and doctors are fighting for his life from the amounts of alcohol he has took.

[@AteshSeruhn]

ROP drinking games have already claimed many souls 😢

[@the_absurd_hero]

If I were Drinker, I'd be avoiding ROP, too (In the last Open Bar, Drinker mentioned that watching ROP inspired in him a nagging desire to get up and do *anything* else, he was so repelled/bored by it)

[@Getafix33]

"wouldnt two halflings just make a full ling?" haha

[@MotheoTladi]

Man this guy's got some resiliency and a strong mental fortitude, critics like nerdrotic and critical drinker stopped at 3 episodes and this guy is planning to watch all the episodes. Seriously if people hate him just tell them at least he's the only one who tolerated trash series they put out.

[@leipzigergnom]

I think Disparu might just have the highest cringe tolerance levels of anyone on KZbin lol

[@Grivehn]

Considering he was the only one out of the 'larger ones' who gave us an episode by episode breakdown of NotCutie's Doctor Who Cares season too, Id also concur that his liver can tolerate the most cringe.

[@strydyrhellzrydyr1345]

If your talking about Disparu... Glad he's getting new watchers. Yep.. he definitely loves beating the crap out of these crap shows. He and nerdrotic talk all the time.. and critical drinker... Very similar

[@Nopeasaurus]

Didn't he have to buy Amazon Prime subscription to watch this?

[@Adara007]

​@@Nopeasaurus If you don't want to pay for Amazon Prime there are other ways to watch the show but he might have indeed paid for it.

[@williamlitsch5506]

This could not have been written by people who can read road signs properly. I'm terribly frightened that the writers of this trash drive on the same roads as me and vote in the same elections. The world is a dangerous place.

[@lacolem1]

“Cats don’t purr, they’re just speaking elvish” 😂

[@st.hugo42]

That bridge must have been set on fire, since we´ve all just learned from ThatDenmarkGirl how well stone burns.

[@jcorbett9620]

It is, in fact, SO inflammable, that all naked flames MUST be extinguished and definitely NO Smoking, near any buildings of stone!

[@daveeyes]

Hey, in the Acolyte a stone fortress burned!

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

FFS, Tom Bombadil didn't live in a desert!

[@skzion2]

Yes, quite the opposite--in a lush forest.

[@UncleGordo88]

This isn't the Tom you are used to. He had a twin brother also named Tom that lived in Afghanistan. Its in the books.

[@yetibeardson1168]

Man, just wait until you realize he is completely made up! Never existed at all! You dumb fucking nerd.

[@lavalleeverdun]

If Amazon SAYS Bombadil lived with a Sasquatch knitting little booties for rabbits ... then that's what he did!

[@yetibeardson1168]

He travelled all over the place before he settled in the forest. Read more than Fellowship my guy.

[@TatsuKeshin]

I'm on timestamp 6:53 and haven't seen the episode yet. You just mentioned how you were wondering why the background elf was staring at Galadriel(Sp?) I think elves under her command staring st her nervously is well warranted when we remember how many survived under her command from Season 1 Episode 1.

[@danielscott8180]

The barrow wight scene is so badly done. Galadriel who is supposed to be such a great warrior snaps a twig while walking up behind an Elf who is watching the hole where the barrow wights hide. Then, that Elf is pulled into the hole. He's about 50 yards away, at least, when ensnared by the barrow wight but that doesn't stop Galadriel from standing about a meter away from the hole and then dropping her guard and even turning her back on the hole during a brief respite in the fight. She is the only one who knows they're barrow wights. She speaks with such authority, but has not clue that her weapons won't harm them. This show is incredibly stu pid, with the dumbest characters in existence.

[@daveeyes]

It's how stupid people write smart characters. This show is hopeless. It's so damned BORING, filled with characters I don't care about or even like, and a plot best described as "meandering". I'm sick of GirlBoss Galadriel.

[@wiredcer]

why did they only draw their weapons at the last moment? i didnt get that part. they heard one of their squad get brutally killed yet didnt seem on guard

[@danielscott8180]

@@wiredcer The whole scene is stupid. Each character's behavior mskes zero sense. A 12 year old could write better.

[@KeytarArgonian]

‘Aspiration of Immortality’ …. *HE IS ALREADY AN IMMORTAL ELF?!*

[@varcolord1576]

God, rings of power keeps getting uglier and dumber, truly amazing achievement. How can one use so many words in a perfect string of ever increasing stupidity it's beyond me.

[@daveeyes]

I pity the word processor that first endured this crap as it was being written. And I don't pity Microsoft Word after that fucking Clippy.

[@al77709]

I'm not outraged about this series anymore. It's just... sad. They're so desperate to have convincing characters, a good plot, artful worldbuliding, something, anything that lives up to the original or the Jackson movies. But they can't make it themselves. The only thing they know is to put jangly keys before their audience. "Remember Tom Bombadil? Remember Gandalf? Remember the verse on the One Ring? Wow! So nostalgic!" But every time they do this, they lose more goodwill from people who remember these things and can plainly see the modern versions are not up to par. They know this, it eats away at them, and they're powerless to do anything else because they've been picked to helm something far beyond their creative capabilities.

[@daveeyes]

God created blank pieces of paper to show writers *it ain't easy*! Signed, a writer.

[@ChaoticYak1]

They also lose goodwill because their key-jangling is done in a way that destroys the lore, and Tolkien fans know their lore. I don't know if they just can't figure out a way to fix the order of the rings or if they're pretending that it doesn't matter, but the fact that they couldn't even get the order of the rings right made me lose any hope that they could make this show any good. They could have just watched the 5-minute prologue in Fellowship of the Ring and they would have known the order!

[@buzzsawkhan]

My Lord, that moment at about 3:30 when Galadriel walks into view; she looks so *wrong.* She's shorter than Elrond, she's mousy and unimposing... in other words, she's everything that Galadriel should not be.

[@makingabusinesswithmoe]

My thoughts exactly!

[@annienglish4378]

The Barrow-wights began appearing in the Barrow-downs after the Dúnedain of Cardolan succumbed to the ravages of the Great Plague. In roughly Third Age 1409, evil spirits were sent by the Witch-king of Angmar, who wished to keep the Dúnedain from resettling the region. So there are no such things as barrow wights in the Second Age. The reference to Westernesse, applies to Numenor when the island disappeared under a gigantic wave sent by Eru Iluvatar after Ar Pharazôn went to Valinor to wage war on the Valar and gain immortality, because Sauron told the king that the Valar gatekeep the immortality. He said immortality would be theirs if they waged war on the Blessed Realm. Westernesse in literature is another name for Atlantis. The first, second and third ages are completely mixed up with one another. Barrow Wights and Balrogs are appearing before the Khazad-dûm and prior to the fall of Numenor. None of this makes any sense. I Iiterally had to stop watching this episode. I've been reading Tolkien's work since I was twenty, fifty three years in fact and I am finding this travesty very upsetting. 😢

[@Faerwing66]

Long time fan here as well. The worst part about RoP is that it’s an intentional mauling of Tolkien’s work.

[@lunafencoven]

'They're nameless things in the deep places of this world. Except this one, which is on the surface level but still nameless.'

[@dudepool7530]

I finally checked out that "Combine Harvester" song. Much better than anything put out these days. I'd rather listen to that on repeat, than watch ROP without a Disparu filter.

[@ChaniElkin]

So I live in St. Paul, Minnesota - Tom Bombadil is unintentionally hilarious to me with that accent because of this: Tom Bombadil and his Cornish voice... I can't breathe! (Think hysterical laughing emojis) I'm only 9 minutes in - I won't survive He's literally Max in the 'Harper's Locket' episode of "The Goes Wrong Show"!! A British comedy series vastly superior to Rings of Power. KZbin recently paywalled the 1st season, but Dailymotion has the episodes. The movies 'Peter Pan Goes Wrong' & 'Christmas Carol Goes Wrong' are still free on KZbin. I highly recommend for genuine high quality entertainment.

[@Adelina-293]

I can't wait until Sauron weasels his way out of blaming the Warriors for killing Cyrus by offering to tell Neo the truth about Dark City.

[@B1gT4asty]

The "not hobbits" sound like Vicky Pollard now 😂

[@attackfox]

“Cats don’t purr they are just speaking elvish” 😂😂😂

[@bry8636]

‘Elves were born before the sun existed’ The black elves were the ones who didn’t listen and got a tad scorched by getting too close to the 2 trees Viola… ‘Crispy elves’ The ones with squinty eyes couldn’t stop staring at the two trees- and turned mildly yellow🫢

[@thepluraloffishisfish]

You don't know how much I've been looking forward to the "combine harvester" clips.

[@jeffreyfrey1936]

Dull-adriel actually says, "go back to the shadow?" That's a Gandalf line, dang it!

[@wiredcer]

did they use chatgtp to write the script?

[@WateringDNami]

woke Galadriel fighting 20+ orcs by herself while 3 other run aways i'm speechless

[@daurydavis3983]

Poor misogynist

[@mixelplik]

"Do you know why urine floats, and a turd sinks?"

[@jmace2424]

We have the Combine Harvester song in the US but ours says “I’ve got a brand new pair of rollerskates.” 🤣

[@Atanalcar]

That's the original song. Combine Harvester is a parody of it.

[@Fantasyish]

Wow, I never knew the combine harvester song was a parody of another song, that’s really interesting.

[@Atanalcar]

@@Fantasyish They have a few. There's also Farmer Bill's Cowman (original "I was Kaiser Bill's Batman") and the Tractor Song (the Pushbike Song). Probably more I can't think of. And while not a parody, Champion Dung Spreader is sort of a response song to My Old Man's a Dustman (starts "some folk like to boast, bout their father's occupations, dustmen and the like, and other situations")

[@garylancaster8612]

Check out "I am a cider drinker" by the Wurzels. It's a parody of Una Paloma Blanca. 😂

[@duralumin594]

He may claim his name is Merrimac, but in the American South they'll insist on calling him CSA Virginia.

[@Licht.von.Stein.]

How the hell did I get the reference?

[@Licht.von.Stein.]

Be careful, they may monitor it to a standstill.

[@garylancaster8612]

That's an ironclad reference mate. 😂

[@taten-jinmu718]

"I would have at least tested if she was a witch in the pond nearby" 😂

[@janette2422]

Tom: -gives Gandalf life lesson of how old he is- Gandalf: I'm a lower angel....I've seen God.

[@thepluraloffishisfish]

It's a real shame you didn't put the clip of Disa actress saying "I'm so sorry, Ian" after Guyladriel stole his line: "Go back to the shadow!" Would've been gold.

[@FearTheLamb-u7h]

The sixth person was the camera man 😂

[@shimtest]

there was no dark wizard flying into Middle Earth, it doesn't even make sense in the mythology

[@Gorbz]

So, as of this episode, the Harfoot stary is: They used to be Stoors living in Rhun, but one day a whole bunch of them left and went West to find the promised land. They were gone for so long that they not only forgot where they came from, but also what they were doing and the name of their own species! This must have been hundreds of years at the least, if not into the thousands, for a journey that appears to take a couple of weeks at best. Either that or it was a con job, telling the Stoors that was their plan, just to have an excuse to leave the village and not come back.

[@iguran6035]

Okay, so that is kinda believeable and probably the closest to life the show will ever get. For a small group leaving the main body life expectancy would drop drastically at first, whilst birth rates would likely soar, meaning many generations pass in a shorter timeframe. What we see is only 1 family seems to have all the books and all teaching would turn to survival rather than history so the origins would be lost in less than 2 centuries around 4-6 fast generations. When we start to see them in the show they've been nomadic long enough for the life span and birth rates to return to a more 'normal' ratio allowing new traditions to be formed and at that point no one in the group is in living memory of their origins. It's like if someone asked you what your greatx15 grandmother did for a living. Still really dumb given they still have songs about the way back to the old village and physical records it seems so they should know but the show writers probably put less thought into the show than I did writing this out.

[@Gorbz]

@@iguran6035 I thank you for this.

[@iguran6035]

@@Gorbz no worries, though ngl i love the idea of it being a con job, lennie henfoot simply wanted to get away from the nasty white ones is my headcannon for the halfoots.

[@rebornstillborn]

I think it is likely the Harfoots are members of the species whom we're so barbaric that the rest of the Stoors exiled them Which would explain their behaviour in season 1. Well.....sort of at least

[@dirdib69]

Elrond: You are going to be my mother-in-law someday, but I already hate you.

[@D3athstroke]

Tom Bombadil is what Hobbits call him and since there are no hobbits yet idk why the fuck he would be referring to himself as such.