Porsche 911 GT3 versus 718 Spyder | TheCarGuys.tv

[@AmishNinjaMaster]

Driving a Spyder with beanage, then getting excited about seeing a vintage Nissan 300 ZX ... definitely proper car guys.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

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[@berber463]

9m

[@platypushatstand]

Damian, the sideways look you gave Jason when he said ‘Boxster’ in the summing up in the GT3 was priceless!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Platypus Hatstand Thanks for noticing 👍

[@888mattd]

GT3 Touring is the sweet spot as far as I’m concerned. Understated looks, manual gearbox, last NA GT engine pre particulate filters. Perfection 👌🏼

[@michaeljohncooper]

Needs to have the chrome and silver wheels. Black on black on a Touring does not work.

[@johnnyboy1586]

Yes would be my choice if I still had my right leg .how I miss driving manuals 😩

[@888mattd]

@@johnnyboy1586 You drive auto with left leg only? Have you thought about hand controls for manual.

[@johnnyboy1586]

@@888mattd i did concider all options but it was easier and cheaper to install left foot excelotator device which can be removed with quick release in a few secs when an abled bodied person needs to drive the car.so I got rid of manual as it was getting on a bit and got a mazda 3 auto converted .I do miss the engagement of the manual and the Nissan had a lovely smooth trans and this new car is just more practical.still I miss ability to use tree peddle car

[@gungun24]

Well I collect my spyder tomorrow and the hunt for a gt3 starts on sunday

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Ian Pinder Good for you 👍

[@charleslu7044]

I collected my 981 Spyder last week, GT Silver over Garnet Red. Enjoy!

[@markcady6882]

Too many things to make me laugh and smile!!!! “go limp” “I’ll undo your seatbelt if we are going to crash” Damian’s sideways glance when “boxster” was said by Jason for the 10th time, but the best of all was right when you are reviewing two of the most iconic cars of this generation you both get very excited over a Nissan 300 and it’s twin chrome pipes.... brilliant, just brilliant....

[@TheCarGuysTV]

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[@cartergarnon6299]

300ZX TT owner here. Just sold my gated V10 R8, looking to add either a 2018 manual GT3 or a new Spyder. I mean, this video is an extremely well timed delight! Thanks guys!!!

[@Waltherppk78]

What you go for ?

[@muratk.8296]

You are comparing cars with different seats. The bucket seats changes the feeling of directness to the cars quite a bit. Driver is connected more with such seats. I consider this difference very similar to regular suspension vs. rose joints.

[@pdds1]

I went from a 997.2 GT3 to a 981 Spyder. Love BOTH! The gearbox feel is Porsche, the best and unfortunately the few we have to play with. Sound, of course, GT3! However, I was pleasantly surprised by how nice the Spyder sounded, quite aggressive. My 991.1 Turbo was no where close to the sound or fun factor. Style, subjective but the Spyder “humps” gives it and incredibly exotic/unique look especially with the top down! In conclusion, you can never go wrong with a Porsche!

[@clu4u]

‘Streamliners’ please 🙏🏿

[@rossmctaggart4371]

Having the GT3 Touring as a daily is awesome 😍 Great vid as always gents 👍🏼

[@tahag2107]

Can’t blame the spyder for the sound quality. The opf filters have ruined it

[@TheMpamMpam]

Yes actually u can and u should. They only way to reverse this EU over regulation madness is to put pressure on companies by not buying their products.... In the end they will "cooperate" and find a viable solution.

[@chrisliewtw]

“Nothing beats a GT3”... Amen to that! 🙏🏻

[@details78]

Oh! I must say, the interior in the 718 has officially grown on me.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

details78 Huzzah!

[@andrewsmith4105]

Fascinating comparison. I guess the one I’m interested to hear is the 4.0 Boxster (gts?) vs Spyder comparison. Which boils down to does the lightweight roof make that much of a difference.

[@metalone2321]

Very unbiased conclusion (I know you are in love of the Spyder). I believe you haven't disconnected/blocked the vacuum lines yet... you should do it before making changes to the exhaust for a fair comparison afterwards

[@ubonrat8653]

Jason stated the Spyder has a Carrera S engine, that was correct on the previos gen, GT4, the 4.0 is a new engine not used by the carrera, great video lads

[@DQ-su6qf]

Love the comparison, my bucket list car has always been the 1st gen NSX & after 3 years & 30,000 + miles it never gets old...It’s a 95 & it’s Purple..

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Completely agree 👍👍

[@MichaelGross1]

Of course the GT3 is the superior one, but I wonder if the comparison misses the point. The Spyder gives you one of the most beautiful car designs and a whole lot of unadulterated sports car pleasure for far less money. In fact you could buy a Spyder for weekend pleasure and an electric car for everyday commute (e.g. VW ID.3) for less money than what you have to pay for a GT3. Is the extra bit of experience that the GT3 provides worth the premium? „Yes“ for some people, „no“ for other people - and it‘s great that Porsche provides options for different needs. In terms of sports car value for money, the Spyder/GT4 is hard to beat.

[@johnlee5307]

My thoughts exactly but the car guys are in a different income stratosphere. If I was filthy rich, I would have the GT3T and a Boxster GTS 4.0. As it is I daily a Mini SE and my 981 BGTS is my weekend car. It turns out to be cheaper in the wrong run than dailying my Porsche due to lower insurance, running costs and depreciation. Plus the Mini SE is very fun in its own way.

[@VarioFelce]

Love how you guys look at a Nissan, you're really petrolheads. Cheers from Italy edit: those Leather Seats are pure porn

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Vario Felce 👍👍👍

[@lotsofcurveslover]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. There is something seriously wrong with the world when you guys don’t have over 100k subscribers.

[@lama6736]

I’ve never worn nor cared about watches, but I now find myself looking up the watches you showcase and yearning. Thanks a lot.

[@computerhelpcc]

You can find ONE, and be done with it. Savor the search.

[@TimHarrisJulieHarrisCoach]

Excellent guys, I have a touring (love it). and was ordering a 718 Spyder PDK. You helped me pivot towards adding a 991.2GT3 RS vs the Spyder. Thanks!

[@stephenlane9168]

Great work guys. Nice comparative video of two beauties in the car guys collection. Who doesn’t love Porsche’s?!

[@padraigg9508]

Guys you really are the most entertaining car content on "da tube". Please keep doing this great content, Oh whatever about the cars the watches are bloody amazing. TheCarGuys got it all!

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[@jamesthird8213]

I was hoping this would be the week where you announced that you've ordered a T.50 as the F40 replacement!

[@VarioFelce]

I think that the price is a bit too much even for these guys

[@marcnobel3938]

Oh yes! When they could get a T.50 I would forgive them the sale of the F40 - a bit!

[@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab]

Marc Nobel...yes indeed, Lol! 😆

[@stefanosassi]

Vario Felce don’t think so. have you figured the value of the collection?

[@VarioFelce]

@@stefanosassi yes sure but I don't think they would sell everything for one car. Are you also Italian by the way?

[@RogerBaileyOnCars]

love this comparison video D&J this is great work, the GT3 is a drivers car high water mark. I agree that with the "not a Boxster" - "you absolutely have to get an after market exhaust" however I'd say to any owners looking in, first check with Porsche about the cars warranty before fitting one, it's a dilemma set to face all future GT cars unfortunately, making the 991.2 first batch, those produced up to around mid 2018, the must have GT car.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Well said!

[@1570CHRIS]

Great video, Jason's Boxster I mean Spyder comments were hilarious.

[@jesperhvid9667]

I can heartily recommend the full ti akrapovic system for your touring. The one with the side and center mufflers. Also, the Spyder doesn’t just need an exhaust. It needs headers as well, that’s where the OPF sits.

[@karllo9116]

Love it how you always sneak the TdF into the background.

[@ozeskiman]

Saturday morning ( I'm in Oz) and what's the first thing I do, watch the Car Guys newest adventure. Great review. Good to see the tdf is still in the garage.

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[@anandpushkar7510]

Holy God you have blessed us with two episodes this week

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Sadly, one of them was a KZbin glitch

[@anandpushkar7510]

@@TheCarGuysTV ohh, hello darkness my old friend

[@PeterJUren]

Damian, the 718 GT4 is no more a Cayman than the 718 Spyder is a Boxster. Loved the comparo. A comment you didn't make is that the GT3 Touring is an all-weather car where the Spyder is really only suitable for fair weather, unless you like getting wet!

[@nigelprice7953]

Interesting. I was surprised there was such a difference as I thought the Spyder and GT4 were meant to have been developed by the motorsport division in Weissach like the GT cars, and even to have some GT3 running gear.

[@villaman4818]

Great video guys I'm loving the Spyder a.k.a. Boxster. But I have noticed a continuity error as at 3.46 you are not wearing the Tudor black bay.... but it is a cracking watch

[@jaykay19772]

You guys are champs! I just like the witty dialogue, priceless👌 and yes my money goes to Touring as well❤️

[@ClubBlau]

Well done! I previously had the 991.1 GT3 and the previous GT4, and now have a 991.2 Touring and waiting for the GT4 RS with PDK - I have been waiting 5+ years to "swap" transmissions between my two cars - almost there!

[@TheBiggerrich]

And several watch changes Damian! Love that white faced Omega!

[@flubsterunited]

Have you heard about the sharkwerks gear ratio options for the spyder? Makes the gearbox a shorter shift and apparently transforms the driving experience.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

And it's very expensive

[@neilpatching7443]

Thank you gentlemen. Stay safe guys coz i need my weekly fix of Car Guys...In stage 4 lockdown here so need all i can get to keep me from going bonkers. Cheers

[@remivpei]

OPF filters are killing noise but also engines themselves that are made in compliance with new regulations. This is really frustrating because it means we are not seeing the pinacle of what can actually be made in 2020, which would obviously be much better than what is currently being released under very restrictive regulations.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Very true

[@borinvlogs]

The awkward moment when front end of Boxster/Spyder/Cayman/GT4 look better than 911 models.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

😂😂

[@pauln0371]

A GT3 touring would probably be my favourite car of recent times. That and a 458 Speciale....👍👍 You jammy git Damian..lol

[@divertiti]

All you need on the Spyder is a Deman 4.5L conversion and you'll spank the GT3 for half the price.

[@chriscam5658]

For a 100% B road use, the 981 spyder seems to be the best choice ..

[@Ronstar1266]

Excellent reviews, really enjoyed this one, thank you chaps. Can't wait to see what's coming up next week.

[@plife911]

Much needed review and comparison. Nice that you owned both for a while. Lots of folks ask this question, is the gt3 really worth 70k more? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Waltherppk78]

P is the 70km worth it ? I literally bought the Spyder based on your exact spec lol talk to me brother

[@plife911]

@@Waltherppk78 we gonna find out. My gt3 comes this week and i can start answering the question first hand…

[@Waltherppk78]

@@plife911 P I got the Spyder Coming in July … what you recommend ? Which exhaust kit ? There seems to be too many opinions on this … what your thoughts the motor sound soft huh ? And how much horsepower would it give … I keep reading that all that gov regs on the Spyder hold back a lot of potential I’m hearing can get it up to 490hp Thoughts ?

[@ericgabriel3902]

I would say: sell both and get a Speedster :) Best of both worlds

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Didn’t get one allocated, after the Touring I’m not paying over the odds for a car again...

[@steffydog]

Lovely to see, cheers gents.

[@mamigagi]

That flipping up-shift arrow drives me nuts as well...

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Agree with that 100%

[@HawkMillFarm]

Always watch your videos first if there’s a new one in the list because it bloody entertaining and informative too. Great banter between you guys. Keep them coming. Oh and fab cars too 👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers, David

[@MGT.joseee]

Great commets. Thank you 🤗🤗🤗

[@wfd81]

Personally love both but I do like a convertible. Watched all the way through this time no skimming!!

[@maurocampa6575]

The perfect mix between car and comic guys:)))

[@davemclean8667]

Absolutely love these side by side comparison videos, I watch them over and over! Well done as always.

[@BatDimen]

That 718 Spyder looks way better than the GT3 hands down. I saw an old 987 Spyder that still looked great.

[@regboss6237]

Another great vid guys!

[@jamiemack2349]

Would be very interested to see how the GT4/Spyder compares to a 'regular' C2S

[@glenhilton4636]

Couldn’t stop laughing when Jason just can’t stop saying “Boxster” - but luuuurrve the GT3 touring. The Spyder is probably the best looking car from Porsche at the moment - would love to know how it compares to 981 Spyder. For my money , a manual Gallardo Spyder for my open top thrills. Probably no where near as precise as the Spyder but much more of an occasion:)

[@robinguy8696]

Had both cars Guys..and I must say think your right but I love my 718 Spyder and it helps saving some of your valuable points on your driving licence because it’s just not as insanely fast at the top of the rev range. 😊

[@johnycarrera]

Try the cargraphic electronic exhaust valve mod? Looks good sounds great without altering the original exhaust, or just go for a full system and headers? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@tonysheabo]

Another great video, got my fingers crossed for a new Watch Guys vid on Sunday, missed it last Sunday.

[@mattylf1]

I do like the look of the Boxter (sorry Spyder). On sunny days like we’re having now, driving through the New Forest with the roof down is what’s it’s all about. The GT3 is a beast and a wise choice for a daily.

[@brianhimmelman420]

Excellent video as always and 2 incredible cars ... each are very special

[@Askgeez]

You changed watches DB 😜. An insta friend has changed exhaust on his Spyder . Think you’re using same firm. Very good now 👍🏻. If I needed a soft top Spyder , the 981 is a great car at £65k

[@peterfearringtonvillaume1968]

You should do a followup but w a speedster in the mix - would love that 👏

[@jjmswiss759]

Love your work. Maybe Porsche Speedster would be an interesting comparison... Greetings from Switzerland

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Great suggestion!

[@alastairwardle3981]

Great video Damian and Jason, thanks for the fantastic content. Porsche always seems to imbue its GT cars with a shot of quality that is denied to the more mainstream in the range, even if it’s hard sometimes to quantify what it exactly is. Very interesting to get the Boxster.....sorry Spyder alongside the GT3 and see the gulf between the two. Keep up the great work guy’s, looking forward to the next one already.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Alastair. I thought it was an interesting comparison too. Not one most people would make, but since I noticed such big differences, I thought I'd share them.

[@dickieb2233]

More Talbot please Jason. Pure and raw.

[@benbav4585]

Really enjoyed this (and the AM comparison last time). GT3 Touring is just my favourite in the Car Guys Garage. 👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@antonygriffiths6764]

Only you guys would compare a Spyder with a GT3... Nice job... Cheers👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@mohamedmayet4522]

Loved this episode guys! 👌🏻

[@000GunterGabriel000]

I guess i will rain on your parade then. :D I owned both, Touring already sold Spyder will go next. Both are maybe the purest Porsche can do these days with all the regulations and such but they are no where close to the 997/987 generation when it comes to pure driving fun. Touring got replaced by 992 4S and a 997 GT3 RS 3.8. Sypder will be replaced by a E46 M3 CSL manual conversion. Cya! ;-)

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Enjoy

[@martinboulden3540]

Is the GT3 Touring worth 2 Spyders ?? I think if i was heading to Penzance for a evening drive I would take the Spyder ! Having problems with those brown seats I am afraid Damian - sorry not sorry !

[@Closertotruth2]

I own a GT3 Touring and a 2018 911 Cabriolet. I previously owned a 2016 Spyder. The Spyder is so so good that I have a new one coming and will sell the 911 Cab.

[@FredB458]

GT3 Touring for me please, one of my all time dream cars!

[@mikeeagletube]

Speedy Alaska, that's nice!!

[@Nathan.Guthrie]

I was just thinking the same. Possibly the only watch id sell my "normal" speedy for.

[@harrykwan734]

dang guys. I am still trying to wrap my head around spending my hard earned money on a Spyder and you're saying it's only 60% of a GT3?! ouch! I suppose it's about half the price so maybe that's a bargain....

[@TDS981]

From an entertainment perspective it's good to see a comparison, it would be great to understand more about the dynamics rather than just gearbox and steering. Mid engine Vs rear. And question for you, is the GT3 really the better car on the road at modest speeds, or does it still feel exciting even though you are even further away from its limits?

[@MrBeboopman]

Lads the garage... the garage or shed in tipp😊😮😮 excellent as always. My fav channel esp after the decision about the aston vid... keep her lit😊

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Awesome thank you!

[@radicalrobason]

So is it safe to say there is no substitute for the Porsche?!?! I have a 911 Targa 4S with Full Fabspeed intake, exhaust, and Tune and I can say easily the best car I have ever driven. Thanks for the great vehicles reviews!!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you, Radical

[@mr19842]

Needed more than one wrist watch check

[@TheCarGuysTV]

😂😂😂

[@jeffwhitworth5732]

Here's a 1st world problem question for you guys: enjoy a GT3 Touring and a Spyder or a own only a Speedster? I never made the cut to order a Speedster, but was able to order my Touring and, like you, love it and won't sell it except for the right Speedster. In the futility of the search for a convertible, I have considered doing exactly what you did since the investment is about the same. I haven't seen you weigh in on the idea of a Speedster. Thoughts?

[@TheCarGuysTV]

I’m happy to not have a Speedster. I overpaid to get the Touring because I didn’t get an allocation. I won’t do that again.

[@thebeemovie9612]

My two favourite modern Porsche’s. Thanks for the review and I’d agree the GT3 is definitely the best, though I’d be more scared to daily that for fear of destroying the value (and probably crashing it as it’s so bloody fast). Did Jason say the Spyder has the normally aspirated Carrera S engine? I thought that was the previous Spyder and this one has the 992 engine, minus the turbo and bored out to 4.0 and some of the GT3 adjustable suspension which the previous one didn’t have. Anyway, love these cars and even though the particulate filter muffles the Spyder’s noise, it still sounds way better than the four cylinder Boxsters.

[@theworldsyourlobster1583]

So basically you need a 911 4.0ltr speedster with carbon ceramics manual ? That way you get the best of both worlds with the roof down ? All boils down to that cracking 9000rpm Revving engine and sharper gear box , if money’s not a issue the speedster is the one for summer fun , but saying that I recon that boxster will still give that gt3 touring a hard time on some good twisty roads driven correctly with those cup 2s and Carbon ceramic brakes .. would love a 4.0ltr gt3 engined 500bhp boxster spyder keep the videos coming lads all good stuff ....

[@robertmarr8991]

Would like to hear your opinion of the Gordon Murray T50.I would like any Porsche(Ha,Ha).

[@jordan9318]

in the event of an accident ill just undo your seat-belt hahahahaha

[@gordydexter2615]

Great video!!! Your seats are beautiful!!! Love the brown leather. I suggest that you take the center armrest to seat guy and match it with the same leather. It would enhance the overall interior appearance!!!!

[@garybarnes3746]

Following this comparison I am looking forward to the next - Ferrari 458 versus Fiat x1/9 I have no idea which one will win.

[@johnpicasso2188]

Spyder spec with those seats looks epic! Great video Sirs ! 🙏

[@stefgt3ktmrx337]

I would question why you’d have the fixed back seats? They look great, but are too firm for comfort, hard to get in and out of, and make it difficult to utilise all the space in the back. The standard sports seats are awesomely comfortable and offer more than enough support. Get the bucket seats in your RS and then make use of the harness holes.

[@myou6675]

GT3 touring is as close to perfect sports car as I can think of. Wrist watch check was valid for all of 30 seconds when you replaced the BB58 Blue with an equally tasty Speedmaster by the looks of things!

[@woodypwx]

The GT3 Touring is lovely! Just the red gauges should have been grey 😋

[@TheCarGuysTV]

I’ve got used to them now - they match the brakes

[@PointGiven]

991 Speedster is the best of both cars.

[@chrisH248]

Let's look at the Boxster - Love you guys, you are so refreshingly different, (in a nice way)!

[@Philpoussis]

Can’t understand why you would buy another Porsche sports car if you have a GT3.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

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[@richardkennett4086]

Great show guys! 911 targa purchased! I love it! Would the targa GTS be a better rival for the ‘spyder’? Maybe Porsche should over a GT3 targa touring! Not the purest but sound track with the best looks for a 911?

[@dylanh1978]

Great video guys. Love both these cars, GT3 touring is outstanding. The leather adjustment in the Spyder really makes that car into something special.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks for watching!

[@michaelcheshareck3275]

I’m wearing my Tudor Pelagos. I’ll take the GT3 all day, everyday.

[@christopherchampion8360]

Hi guys great vid as all ways, both fantastic cars

[@KoryoJK]

Would’ve thought the Spyder had better steering feel, feedback, and turn in. Although not GT cars, I’ve had a 718 GTS and now a 991.2 GTS and felt that the 718 was a little better. Did both cars have the same alignment setup? Are you sure the GT3 doesn’t have more front negative camber? You can obviously check the front 3 strut mounting bolts to see if ones farther to one side than the other.

[@flyinghedgehog3833]

718 Boxster 4.0 GTS...mainly due ridiculous roof on Spyder