Myths About The Crusades That Too Many People Believe | The Catholic Talk Show

[@ruth2588]

In regards to being a crusader today, that's why the church on earth is called Church Militant! Always fighting battles spiritually if not in an actual war!

[@myrnaleon8464]

It about time!!! It is crucial that we hear about the truth of the Catholic history. A lot of us believe the myth and propaganda. caused by others. Please continue this . Thank you, guys! 🙏🏼🤓🙏🏼

[@nenabunena]

Myths and propaganda spread by the enemies of the Church, Protestants, atheists and pagans spearheaded by Satan himself

[@dianesicgala4310]

Myrna Leon Yes I agree.

[@mikerutkowski7265]

Myrna Leon it is no myth. Catholicism Is Evil and is the Church of the Devil Don’t believe me then look here at what the Book of Revelation reveals to us. “Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ MYSTERY BABYLON in Revelation in the Vatican the mother of harlots and it sits on seven hills. The seven hills of Rome (Italian: Sette colli di Roma [ˈsɛtte ˈkɔlli di ˈroːma], Latin: Septem colles/montes Romae) east of the river Tiber form the geographical heart of Rome, within the walls of the city. The seven hills are:[1] • Aventine Hill (Latin, Aventinus; Italian, Aventino) • Caelian Hill (Cælius, Celio) • Capitoline Hill (Capitolinus, Campidoglio) • Esquiline Hill (Esquilinus, Esquilino) • Palatine Hill (Palatinus, Palatino) • Quirinal Hill (Quirinalis, Quirinale) • Viminal Hill (Viminalis, Viminale) Next, THE BEAST in Revelation is the Catholic Church who has been preaching it’s false doctrine that it is the one true church of God. The Catholic religion is the same pagan Roman Empire who crucified Jesus. All they did was form a religious cult that either killed anyone who did not accept their religion or they branded them a heretic and they confiscated their possessions. The pagan Roman Catholic Church killed many Christians who would not accept their religion or their teachings. The pope even still carries the same title as the Roman Emperor, Pontifex Maximus. “So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:3-6‬ ‭NKJV Next, THE ANTICHRIST in Revelation is the current pope. The pope calls himself the Vicar of Christ. This means that the pope is stating that he is the earthly representative of Christ. Check your history and you will find that many popes were murderers, ruthless, full of corruption and even homosexuals. Plus just at all the sexual abuses that have been alleged against his priests. Now do you honestly believe that Jesus would use this pagan religion as His representative? Jesus is alive people and His representative here on earth is His Holy Spirit and not some misguided mortal man. “Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:11-12‬ ‭NKJV‬ Since the Lateran Treaty of 1929, you had the five fallen popes, Pius XI, Pius XII, John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I. The One Is in John’s vision John Paul II, Rules only a short time was Benedict XVI, and the eight and is of the seven and is going to perdition is Francis I. “There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:10-11‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ Next, the MARK OF THE BEAST, is performed on Ash Wednesday when Catholics go to their pagan Mass and they have ashes put either on their foreheads or on their hands. Thus they are receiving the Mark of the Beast. “Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14:9-11‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ Lastly, the FALSE PROPHET, I do most definitely believe that Donald Trump is your false prophet. Just look at how all these misguided preachers and evangelicals are rallying around a man who fights evil with evil, who claims that he has a great relationship with God and who has stated that he does not need to ask God for forgiveness. Just because he is out there talking about God, all these misguided souls believe that he is a godly man when his whole life has been about living in sin and wealth and power. You have all of these false prophet preachers praying with him and you even have evil Paula White as one of his spiritual advisors. Some foolish people have even stated that they believe that he was sent from God. This wicked man knows absolutely nothing about God or His Word and truth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3fVpoibaah4h5I kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqOlp4B8f8SXqNU kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIi3gpqiabuGe7s

[@shensha927]

@@nenabunena When an event in History is not favorable to the RCC, Catholic fanatics called it a Myth. But how can you account the horrible murders of Christians during the Inquisition, the Roman church doctrine of giving Indulgences that can buy out wicked souls to heaven? Are all these propaganda and myth? A lie sugar-coated is still a lie.

[@mikerutkowski7265]

@Richard Forhurholes if you do not understand why Trump is just as evil as Biden then you are simply a fool who is utterly clueless in regards to God and scripture.

[@Freshnewz10]

I’m a Protestant Christian but I get irritating how many Protestant like to please muslims by saying the crusades was Europe fault.

[@rwilliams2280]

Loved this show since I accidentally click ...three guys a priest and two laymen perfect mix. No word nor language to express my thank you. We are suffering from bushfire here in Australia...watching and listening to you give much peace and hope in the midst of our pain. Blessings RW

[@jasonroach6209]

Great show. Certainly could do more on this subject. An explanation of the failed 4th Crusade would be good for us to learn about, so when confronted by those outside the Church about it that we aren't caught fumbling through it.

[@manny75586]

Read "Glory of the Crusades" The best starting point when people bash the Church over it, is to point out that the Church never authorized laying siege to Constantinople. The regents involved in organizing the armies ran into financial trouble. So they lay siege on a town in Croatia (can't recall the name). The Pope wasn't wild about it, but they weren't wholly Catholic. They were still deeply in debt and decided to sack Constantinople when the Byzantines were wishy washy on helping them resupply for the push to Jerusalem. They also believed he was playing both sides. The Pope demanded they stop and condemned their actions. So the 4th Crusade went off the rails because of ulterior motives and not from Church command.

[@ntmn8444]

Your intro has really won me over. It’s a very manly opening. I got my fiancé hooked on you guys.

[@jasonroach6209]

Appropriately presented on Veterans Day. Shout out to all veterans!

[@pedrorodriguezriopedre8649]

Gotta do a show about exposing the myths about Islamic Spain and why La Reconquista had to be done.

[@splintercell5551]

Islamic Spain was a great part of Islamic history because they invented so many things in that era

[@Thecrusader-lx1tl]

Like murdering people for existing

[@customarylover3857]

​@@splintercell5551Actually, it wasn't. That's been debunked multiple times.

[@showyourvidz]

Everyone talks about the crusaders sacking Constantinople during the 4th crusade but no one talks about the sack of Rome by the Byzantine emperor Constans II in 663?

[@CatholicTalkShow]

Or the Massacro dei Latini, a large-scale massacre of the Roman Catholic inhabitants of Constantinople. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Latins

[@thethirdsicily4802]

Also the crusaders were excommunicated even before sacking constantinople, and then the pope sent a letter denouncing the new latin emperor

[@stevenv6463]

@@thethirdsicily4802 to be fair, the rank and file didn't know that because the leaders thought (probably rightly) that they would stop if they knew they were excommunicated

[@hannahstewart3175]

Great topic. Really informative...thanks for discussing. I didn't learn about this in school so nice to get an insight into part of our history that I feel is usually airbrushed out!

[@dianesicgala4310]

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[@buddytrevino8259]

Aside from the amazing information on this channel, I love the chemistry y'all create!

[@travelingdrunkwithhistory]

Fascinating episode! I was just as uninformed about the Crusades as the general public.

[@domenicgrande7292]

The Devil always tries to find away to hurt Christians, in the end God will prevail over Evil

[@jaggedstarrPI]

Dig it, gentlemen. One suggestion, if I might be so bold: I think the message would be all the more powerful with a bit more acknowledgement of the horrible injustices that did take place, as they do in the history of all peoples and organizations successful enough to last and thrive for any significant period of time. As Christians, I think we're called to rigorous recognition of our failures. Even when the world exaggerates and revels in them. New member. Love the show.

[@prettyflower9]

Would love to hear you guys talk about Dante's Inferno! Great episode!

[@ela7893]

Didn't he put Muhammad in one of the lowest pits of Hell?

[@SowerOfMustardSeed]

I listened to Steve Weidenkopf’s EPIC - A journey through Church history (20 CD series) multiple times. It’s a crash course of 2,000 years of history. You should too!

[@bradcope9255]

After hearing Dellacrosse mention him, you guys should definitely do an episode on the myths surrounding Columbus, because I had even fell victim to believing those

[@ignatiusjackson235]

Columbus was pretty much a rotten guy. One can easily deduce that from the substance of his own journals. I would admit that colonialism in general was a lot messier (and more nuanced) than it's often made out to be in the ivory towers, particularly the art of conversion practiced by the missionaries. Nonethless, a much better representative of the Catholic approach would be Bartolomeo de las Casas. Furthermore, as an Italian, I think we should replace Columbus Day with the feast of St. Frances Xavier Cabrini. 🇮🇹

[@albertoascari2542]

I remember reading a great book on this that puts the Christian perspective. Thanks for the talkshow clarifying this

[@Unclegus1]

First time I have seen this show. I really enjoyed it and look forward to hearing future discussions.

[@marynadononeill]

It's a great show! You can watch the older ones too. They age well!

[@captainnes8520]

That was amazing. Thank you guys, again! And the ripping on each other also adds to it . ADJUNCT PROFESSOR.. lol. Poor guy. 💪💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏

[@Sylvia-of9hj]

Last August 15 I was saying the Rosary along with a KZbin video, while lying in bed. I fell asleep. I wasn't asleep long, maybe 10 minutes, because the video was still playing when I woke up. As I was waking, my eyes beginning to open, I had a vision of two men praying on their knees before a stone altar. The altar had a big cross, but otherwise was unadorned. I could see the man nearest to me very clearly. He was from 17 to 19 years old, with a full head of beautiful chestnut brown hair. I saw his face very clearly, just like I was looking at somebody in the same room today. He was praying, very devout and serious. I couldn't see the other man with him as clearly, who was a little bit in back of him. The building they were in seemed like a cathedral, a lot of stone and pillars, not much lighting, after all, they didn't have electricity back then. Both men were dressed in chain mail, with a rough looking white muslin tunic over the chain mail. (Didn't see any Knights Templar crosses on them, though.) Then the vision ended. Later I found out that Aug. 15 is a special day for Mary, the day of her Assumption. Had I seen two of her male devotees, praying to her, maybe for her intercession or protection, before they took off on the Crusades, over a 1,000 years ago?

[@RaysofLight98]

I have a bone to pick with your special guest. Steve Weidenkopf once said that St. Patrick was from Ireland. He wasn't. He was brought over to Ireland from England - and that's a big part of St. Patrick's story. While watching his programs, our Catholic YA group was able to point out several other inconsistencies in his synopsis of Church history because he strayed too far into details and went in a few... interesting directions with his storytelling. I personally wonder if his wife is blonde, for example, since he lingered on the Anglo Saxons name being related to 'being like angels' because of their 'golden hair' and 'how they were so beautiful' to the saints that were there to convert them... Just, a solid minute of me being uncomfortable.

[@owtnerdy1331]

I've been to Malta many times and I'm always astounded about they knights of St John saved Europe, at a time when most kingdoms were too busy having a pissing contest with each other.

[@brucethelen9977]

Speaking of pilgrimage I’m registered for the JP2 trip, and was hoping to get more info on preparing myself. This will be an all round first for me in every way. First pilgrimage, trip out of the Americas, first trip “alone” so to speak. And I’d like to know more general info like after paying for the trip how much money should I have access to on the safe side? What kind of church clothes should I bring? And maybe some do’s and don’ts of the places we’ll be going. Thank you for all of your great work and for this once in a lifetime opportunity. All of you and all your loved ones are in my prayers. God bless.

[@torythewild6409]

Great show Bummed you guys didn’t talk about King Baldwin lV “The Leper Crusader King” more

[@brattyyoung1917]

You guys are to funny..You remind me of my sons ...Can't get a word in edgewise when their being silly...God bless you all....By the way certain people and groups wont believe a word you say about the crusades...They want to believe the worst of catholicism...🥺 Oh well!!!🥺

[@jonathangoodwin646]

That's very true I'm a practicing catholic . I return To the church Seven weeks ago Did all my confessions Going to mess every sunday Taken the whole week communion . And you are right john is certain people Won't believe anything that you said . But I know and my heart You're telling the truth . Thank you For this information

[@David-lu4gq]

I'm a simple man. I see a video on the Crusades produced by Catholics, and I click.

[@David-lu4gq]

@@markgonzales8778 Ok Boomer. Let me guess. You think the Crusades were a Papal driven land grab to steal land from those peace loving flower picking Muslims thousands of miles away?

[@nenabunena]

@@markgonzales8778 like you you mean?

[@timothyfreeman97]

@@markgonzales8778 just say what you mean, mate. Do you think Steve here, the gentleman talking left on the screen, doesn't know what he's talking about?

[@christophergrillo5099]

If you're interested in learning a lot more about crusades, check out Real Crusades History Channel: kzbin.info/door/piumHmUE5EZeLTftxv9qGw

[@Hunter3457]

I’m actually a subscriber to that Channel, Great Channel

[@xilandrizezero2590]

Proud to watching a Christian who is Jealous of his religion .God bless you

[@ironymatt]

Thanks for bringing up Bill Clinton's speech - a rhodes scholar who spoke of propaganda as if it was literal. While it's a safe bet that he knew it was rhetorical, and most of the media and political elite almost certainly knew it was rhetorical, a tremendous number of people very likely didn't.

[@catholicqueen3382]

The crusades were the first time the Church ever stood up to Islam.

[@TygerByte]

36:12 said it perfectly

[@jamesmerone]

Can we get a video on the Inquisition?

[@CatholicTalkShow]

James Merone - Yep! Steve will be back in a week or two to discuss inquisition myths

[@withremnanthearts]

I should have expected this!

[@CatholicTalkShow]

@@withremnanthearts - No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

[@RX7FDfreak]

Glad I found this channel.

[@katmontgomery7699]

Is anyone else distracted by the Jesus bobblehead? It's nodding it's head.

[@krysta-ajhaah-min-yah8368]

Yep haha

[@eileenmurray737]

Reinforced my knowledge that the Crusades were legitimate and holy!

[@stpetric]

I wish you had touched on the soft underbelly of the Crusades. Despite the honor and integrity of the first Crusade, later Crusades seem to have become more cruel and rapacious. I think of events like the sack of Constantinople. I'd love to learn that my understanding is wrong, hence my disappointment that you didn't get to them.

[@lidiadelacruz3492]

Loved this!

[@macmacroque1569]

did Jesus taught the apostles to defend themselves by fighting to war?Jesus even said love your enemies right? ““You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:43-44‬ ‭

[@rgonzalez7170]

Yes He says love your enemies and pray for them, but! He never said be their slaves.

[@Musick79]

@@rgonzalez7170 - He basically taught his disciples to not waste their lives going up against Roman Empire- turn the other cheek and pray for your enemies. However the goal was to launch Christianity to the globe. But in Ancient ISRAEL- God commanded war to conquer others with pagan gods and and establishing Gods territory. Fulfilling His promise to Abraham.

[@customarylover3857]

He wanted them to avoid provoking a fight. If he was a pacifist, he would not have recommended them to go and buy themelves some swords when he was about to be arrested. The idea is don't provoke a fight, but if they mean to kill you, do not hesitate to defend yourself.

[@asimplecrusader5095]

Awesome !

[@trejosam00]

If a lot of churches were built, where the people allowed to continue practicing their religion or did they just end up abandoned once the crusaders got kicked out?

[@henrybn14ar]

That the Crusades were a response to four centuries of Islamic aggression is part of the story. However, on the way, there were the pogroms of Jews in the Rhinelands, which were communities which had lived there since Roman times. The Crusades also encompassed the sack of Constantinople and slaughter of the Orthodox Christian monks of Mount Athos. There were also the Northern Crusades by the Teutonic and Livonian knights, initially against the Lithuanian pagans, but then, by extension, against the Orthodox Christian Russians, eventually being defeated by Alexander Nevsky in the famous battle on the ice. The whole story needs to be told and this talk show has glossed over the darker aspects of the Crusades.

[@markgonzales8778]

I am curious to know if you think the world would of been a better place without them it is easy to judge these people from a modern perspective and those with no experience of war cannot understand the violence that humanity is capable of atrocities committed were not their original intent pandoras box is opened in war unfotunately tell me a war where this has not happened sometimes the bigger picture needs to be taken into account

[@henrybn14ar]

@@markgonzales8778.. Good question. Crusades did not in the end prevent Turkey and the Balkans from ending up under the heel of the Moslems. If the bad blood between Rome and Constantinople had not developed, which happened from the time of Charlemagne onwards, the outcome might have been different. The fourth Crusade weakened the Byzantines to the point that they could not resist the Ottomans, and Vienna were a close run thing. Nowadays the invaders are by train, at the invitation of 'progressive' politicians, while the RCC has been imploding. Arguably, the cause of these disasters was the arrogance of Christian leaders. The blame must be placed all round but the Roman concept of the Papacy has weakened both East and West and seems to on the verge of being fatal for the West

[@richvestal767]

This is a radio series on Church history hosted by Mnsr Michael John Witt, professor of history at St. Louis University. I listen to them all the time while I work. Very deep, very informative michaeljohnwitt.com

[@danielmigneault8413]

great show ! where do you get the the cool dolls on your desk ?

[@maria-0_0-jm]

On their website catholictalkshow

[@danielmigneault8413]

@@maria-0_0-jmI just checked out their website.I didn't see any products for sell.

[@kellykirk6991]

Loved it!

[@manny75586]

As far as I'm concerned, the Reconquista was the first Crusade.

[@michaellovinon3467]

Can I get any source? I like reading?

[@lucky_striker1239]

Do u know where and who gave u the tattoo of the Jerusalem cross? I’m trying to get something like that when I go on a pilgrimage. Thanks!

[@CatholicTalkShow]

Razzouk Ink ucatholic.com/blog/this-700-year-christian-tattoo-shop-in-jerusalem-has-been-tattooing-pilgrims-since-the-crusades/

[@dianesicgala4310]

Brilliant

[@alicebarneto171]

The statues on the table with nodding heads are quite distracting. What purpose do they really serve?

[@sirperduwyn]

Oh they love idols They don’t discriminate Size shape But the bigger they are the more they bow The more the merrier I guess

[@davelane4055]

Yes we must

[@ignatiusjackson235]

"At what cost?" 😂

[@ariamcsrm1902]

i get the first crusade, but i don understand when they were used for the only reason when others did not have the same beliefs innocent people were killed.. explain that

[@the_abandoned_monastery7218]

I’m having a hard time with that as well

[@ashokafulcrum4795]

That didn't happen, Muslims, Orthodox and Jews lived among the Crusader States very safe, peaceful and prosperous. The Massacre of Jerusalem gets highly inflated and taken out of context. Only at the Temple mount did 3000 to 5000 fell in frenzied attacks. But most of those people were, by and far, soldiers. Not woman and children. Also when the Synagoge burned down in Jerusalem, nobody was inside and their isn't any difinitive proof that it was purposefully lit. The Crusades ransomed people they had captured. Just like Muslims would do when they retook Jerusalem under Saladin. This idea that the Franks were savage brutes is a myth portrayed by Protestants, Atheists and Muslims, as well as using the divide between Crusader kings and their propaganda. Its very misunderstood, and the Crusader states were quite welcomed by the Orthodox, who fought in many numbers alongside their Latin brethern.

[@jonathangoodwin646]

Someone has said In the comments We should not Go to war Love your enemies Does a sound like your catholic. Butt it's that person have read the old testament there was lots of wars and the old testament . It was the philistines . King david Went to war . It's so much of that and the old testament When I don't understand why are the picking on the catholics When the old testament is filled with Wars.

[@macmacroque1569]

Jesus taught us all to be martyr not fighters,we defend our faith by loving those who persecute us..it’s very clear.

[@aci.]

You probably would be a Muslim now if the Crusaders didn't fight back then.

[@macmacroque1569]

@@aci. are you a Christian?

[@macmacroque1569]

@@aci. God is in control not crusaders,even if they haven't fought,God will still make me a Christian..Jesus and the apostles accepted death and tortures still loving their killers..that's true Christianity..

[@paulbrandel5980]

Wow you're really stupid!

[@customarylover3857]

​@@macmacroque1569Christians standing tall is self-sacrifice. You think that letting themselves be persecuted is right? Given that logic, the next thing you say will probably be that the Jews should have let Hitler kill them.

[@julienalonso22]

What is the song in that opening sequence

[@CatholicTalkShow]

It's a licensed piece for our show. It's titled 'Squeaky Clean'

[@julienalonso22]

The Catholic Talk Show great intro

[@xecyc5]

3:12 👏👏👏

[@dzuvichu1742]

Is catholic church at its peak of crisis with this pachamama idolatry ..whats happening?

[@macmacroque1569]

where in the Bible the apostles defend themselves by going to war?the apostles accepted the execution joyfully!

[@aci.]

"Where in the Bible...?" Protestant alert!

[@macmacroque1569]

@@aci. don't believe in the Bible?

[@macmacroque1569]

@@aci. aren't you born again?

[@igotv5479]

Deus Vult..!!

[@jonathangoodwin646]

I never understood what happened on What happened . I heard about it From some of the other churches talked about it. In the blame Catholic Church. A catholic when am I Said it was caused by The Muslims . So I don't know what the answer is if i'm asked about it.

[@KlNGOFTHEPIRATES]

5:26

[@rmader1997]

There is so much fast talk and talk over each other to stay in the limelight of the show, little can be learned here.

[@kevinnickel7529]

Dude..it's a talk show.🧐

[@henrybn14ar]

Too much fast talk indeed. It sounds like they are trying to bamboozle and sell some product.

[@princeofthekylineskyline2984]

DEUS VULT!

[@timothyfreeman97]

@Paul : keep posting it, Paul.

[@slickrick75150]

Yup I remember reading the bible where jesus said " spill blood in my name"..... oh wait no he didn't he preach non violence at all costs. St Francis of assisi stopped a war by visiting and showing love to the enemy not by fighting. Jesus himself said if someone slaps you on the right cheek turn to him the other. So the answer to muslims taking Christian lands and killing if not go and fight them back and kill them, it would be turn to them your other land. If god is love then he never wants violence and killing thats a human's favorite trait and humans find any excuse to do it.

[@thethirdsicily4802]

Ah yes, give up your land that you have by right to the people who would gladly see you perish, because that is a practical way to win over your enemies, turn the other cheek doesnt mean just let the enemy walk all over you, it is telling you not to pursue vengeance, not to hold vendettas l, just rolling over and taking it is not a practical idea for anyone, because it invites other people to act towards you with violence, God gives us our cross to bear, we shouldn't actively go look for one. If the early Christians had just rolled over for the Romans, we would not be here today, had they keeled over for the muslims, we would eventually have been eradicated, either through force or with time, had we just let the mongols come in and slaughter us, thousands would have died unnecessarily.

[@slickrick75150]

@@thethirdsicily4802 jesus let his enemies crusifie him which is the most painful and degradingway to die. We are instructed by jesus to do as he did are we not?

[@slickrick75150]

@@thethirdsicily4802 also if you think God would let christianity disappear and be forgotten because of us being passive and kind to others as jesus instructed us to do and other violent religions that tells me you don't have much faith in God to begin with. Read Matthew 22:37-39

[@slickrick75150]

@@thethirdsicily4802 sounds like you need to reread that bible buddy, you seem to be really confused about what it says. You are 100% wrong. Either way go troll someone else I'm not here to argue I'm here to do as jesus said and be as close to christ as possible. Most of the saints took what jesus said literally thats why they are saints. You seem to want to take what jesus said and twist it to fit what you want not what he wants.

[@thethirdsicily4802]

@@slickrick75150 I am not trolling, I am trying to tell you why just rolling over and letting people walk over the church is a recipe for disaster and unnecessary deaths, there are plenty of saints and holy people who were warriors, or would you count people like St. Adjutor (a crusader) St. Joan of Arc, St.Martin of Tours, King Saint Louis IX of France (who is also a crusader) and so many others.

[@aprylvanryn5898]

The dome of the rock is a Muslim shrine. Its over the remains of the second Jewish temple. How do u connect the dots to come up with any kind of Catholic origin story?

[@samabolail8857]

Jizya not jizra.

[@michaellovinon3467]

Deus vult

[@bobdobbs943]

The crusaders just passed out candy to kids. The crusades was a godly good thing.

[@cookiehale1445]

🤦‍♂️

[@johnjay7255]

He calls us schismatics while Rome has abusive clergy and clown Masses, with a Pope who worships secularists and Mother Nature.... thats funny

[@domenicgrande7292]

Did you know that their are less then 2 percent of Christians in The Holy land ?

[@elvisigodo6294]

DEUS VULT

[@chivalrousjack]

AMEN! DEUS VULT!!!

[@johna1607]

God's Will

[@stevenv6463]

If Christianity spread slowly from the beginning of the common era and only made the legal in 313 then the official religion in 380 how are they more "native" or "authentic" to the Middle East than Islam that took over in the 700s? Both religions were there for about 300 years before being fought. Also the Islamic empire tolerated different Christian sects (like Nestorians) and Jewish sects (like Karaites) while Catholic lands only sometimes tolerated Judaism.

[@shensha927]

Demons always defend and protect the Devil's deeds.

[@sirperduwyn]

Sounds great.. you don’t even know your bibles but yeah let’s hear your take on history based on institutional indoctrination

[@CatholicTalkShow]

I know the Bible better than you.

[@sirperduwyn]

@@CatholicTalkShow sure you do bud.

[@CatholicTalkShow]

😘@@sirperduwyn

[@SeanMahoneyfitnessandart]

I can only imagine how disgusting this is going to be. I will NOT be giving them views however.