Did Paulie, Patsy & Butch Kill Tony Soprano? | The Sopranos Explained

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@CineRanter
@CineRanter 8 ай бұрын
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@BaronSaturday66
@BaronSaturday66 8 ай бұрын
It was Angie B... Pussy's widow. She was pissed about what Tony did to her car with that baseball bat.
@veritasinvicta8128
@veritasinvicta8128 8 ай бұрын
P & P are my choices. It's foreshadowed throughout the show with both characters. Never considered Butchie but you figure they must have had NY's blessing to carry out the hit.
@robertlee4172
@robertlee4172 8 ай бұрын
All the clues you've mention adds up. Butch, Paulie, and Ralph Bunche. I especially liked the point you made about the dream sequence where Tony shoots Paulie, then the scene cuts to black. That foreboding statement made by Tony to Dr. Melfi, "There's two outcomes for a high profile guy like me, dead or in the can." The anxiety these mobsters live through on a daily basis. It's just too much to bear.
@diviningrod2671
@diviningrod2671 8 ай бұрын
More importantly what happens to Ginny Sacks ?? Who is admonishing her for hidden candy bars? Or snuggling up to her Rubenesque warmth on the cold nights ?? RIP Denise Borino
@ButtersCCookie
@ButtersCCookie 8 ай бұрын
That was absolutely brilliant. No one ever spoke to that observation. I had held that thought too. But let it go, thinking it was too big and too wild. Butch was unafraid and despised him. He orchestrated everything. I thought he gave up Phil too. With Pauly I agree it was a horrible vibe. I could not trust Tony after what I saw, did and knew. Pauly went above and beyond causing that tension over the joke. He and Tony were petty and shallow. They were the same coin. Mommy issues and all. I thought getting close to Tony by way of marriage was brilliant. Meadow was never innocent. She caused death and fighting. She was no angel. I still think they were all killed but her. That would be the best ending. AJ was useless as an aire. Carmela was just as evil as Tony in her wearing his rank. Never saw Rosalie do that. Thank you again. All these years. I believe Little Carmine instigated some of it. The keep your enemies close.
@HellSpawn_Dre
@HellSpawn_Dre 8 ай бұрын
"Butch had his eyes everywhere".... literally lol
@johngriffiths118
@johngriffiths118 8 ай бұрын
Ha !
@shovedhead
@shovedhead 8 ай бұрын
😂
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 8 ай бұрын
Yeah. That's part of what made the character sinister to me. I couldn't tell where he was focusing.
@itsyaboi921
@itsyaboi921 8 ай бұрын
He had two beautiful blue eyes…… One blue this way one blue that way
@missbhavin4philly
@missbhavin4philly 8 ай бұрын
Cthu
@fimachinchilla
@fimachinchilla 8 ай бұрын
The Vipers did it.
@heyYo31
@heyYo31 5 ай бұрын
Gold
@deabolik.
@deabolik. 5 ай бұрын
see that prick face when he saw the gun?
@Captain_Willard
@Captain_Willard 5 ай бұрын
Probably that Grizzly Adams looking motha fucka
@jakefuller685
@jakefuller685 5 ай бұрын
You’ll Cowards Don’t Even Smoke Crack
@freddofrog9892
@freddofrog9892 4 ай бұрын
Ooooooh wE’RE tHe ViPErs 😂
@fjmj1980
@fjmj1980 8 ай бұрын
Another aspect is the loss of Sil means Tony looses the only person who could have alerted him to something was up with his own capos. Sil was also too invested in Tony and likely was seen by NY as unapproachable.
@fjmj1980
@fjmj1980 8 ай бұрын
I also thought of another aspect. Sil was very critical of Paulie. Paulie likely told NY that Sil was trouble from the time he criticized him and saw him as in the way of Tony and their special friendship. Sil always reminded him that in the end he was bad at making money. The ironic thing is that Sil would have been the best to run Jersey even from a NY view. He saw things with a level head knew the crew and how to keep them in line and knew Tony’s problems were very much of his own making. It’s fate that NY incapacitated the one guy they needed untouched.
@sayhello2heaven_
@sayhello2heaven_ 8 ай бұрын
I forget but didn’t New York essentially want to dissolve the New Jersey family? Them going after ALL the leadership kinda indicates they don’t have the intention of restructuring the family, just absorbing whatever’s left. Plus after the headache that was Tony’s reign I could see them just not wanting to put up with the headache and just cut their losses.
@LAMF24
@LAMF24 8 ай бұрын
NJ becomes weaker, almost like a satellite of NY.@@sayhello2heaven_
@PaulSimpson-qo3bw
@PaulSimpson-qo3bw 7 ай бұрын
They reached out to Burton an sis wacked him
@johnclark4593
@johnclark4593 7 ай бұрын
"SHIL COULDA GOT HOIT!!!!!" Damn, Gandolfini was the greatest actor who ever lived.
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 8 ай бұрын
Fvckin slander if you ask me!
@SisypheanSeas13
@SisypheanSeas13 8 ай бұрын
Satanic black magic... sick shit
@thesunbehindthesun1574
@thesunbehindthesun1574 8 ай бұрын
AIDS?!!
@teamofwinter8128
@teamofwinter8128 8 ай бұрын
​@@Cob____Hoooooooo
@antoniopavicevac-ortiz8886
@antoniopavicevac-ortiz8886 7 ай бұрын
Think i have to watch T.V. to understand the world?
@6ixStringStudio
@6ixStringStudio 7 ай бұрын
@@Cob____that’s what Vito said!
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 8 ай бұрын
Pauli's fate. In my mind I see him walking down a store aisle, looking up and seeing Valery at one end and a few other Russians at the other.
@AlphonseWeebay
@AlphonseWeebay 8 ай бұрын
Still can’t believe that guy was an interior decorator… his house looked like shit!
@robban8552
@robban8552 8 ай бұрын
​@@AlphonseWeebay😅😅 that was the best
@kurtanglerookieyear
@kurtanglerookieyear 8 ай бұрын
"you want drink?"
@captaindowntown7851
@captaindowntown7851 7 ай бұрын
​@@kurtanglerookieyear Nah I stopped at Roy Roger's.
@BigShaun
@BigShaun 7 ай бұрын
Poot yoonivorsal lemote on doacking stairshun
@rdl2820
@rdl2820 8 ай бұрын
It was Heidi and Kennedy come back to finish what they started with Christopher on that highway...
@davidhowell1415
@davidhowell1415 8 ай бұрын
Kennedy got her drivers license
@dinozulic1624
@dinozulic1624 8 ай бұрын
When you'r right, you're right.
@mandogarcia7905
@mandogarcia7905 6 ай бұрын
Lol
@jfrsnjhnsn
@jfrsnjhnsn Ай бұрын
That should be the next Sopranos Story movie.
@scottslaughter6309
@scottslaughter6309 8 ай бұрын
Tony's biggest mistake was letting Paulie know that he was thinking about killing him. Huge mistake. Paulie is a survivor
@BookshelfQBattler
@BookshelfQBattler 7 ай бұрын
When did he do that?
@journaldeborddaymeric
@journaldeborddaymeric 7 ай бұрын
Maybe when Tony talked to the guy in the wheel chair.
@scottslaughter6309
@scottslaughter6309 7 ай бұрын
When he was on the boat. Paulie knew something was up. And Tony kept asking Paulie if he's the one that told Johnny Sac about the joke. I mean sure Paulie didn't know for sure but he had to have suspicions that Tony was thinking about killing him.
@RamonVelazquez-w5f
@RamonVelazquez-w5f 3 ай бұрын
There is no family or loyalty. There is only treachery and betrayal in that life
@bethhoyle3033
@bethhoyle3033 2 ай бұрын
@@journaldeborddaymericWho? Junior?
@adamweiner8874
@adamweiner8874 8 ай бұрын
A minor thought: Paulie with the scissors can also symbolize him cutting ties with the family.
@davidsavage5630
@davidsavage5630 8 ай бұрын
Also someone is getting clipped and he's responsible for the clipping lol..
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 7 ай бұрын
Or maybe his hair
@wyldhowl2821
@wyldhowl2821 7 ай бұрын
I just thought Minnie Mitrone was just really into scissoring, before Paulie grabbed her box.
@johncreighton44
@johncreighton44 6 ай бұрын
Very good, Dom
@stevengilmartin4805
@stevengilmartin4805 6 ай бұрын
I like that
@maximuscesar
@maximuscesar 8 ай бұрын
"Butch had his eyes everywhere" this cracked me so hard 🤣🤣🤣
@rideauxbaldwin6071
@rideauxbaldwin6071 8 ай бұрын
I was going to say that!
@tucko11
@tucko11 8 ай бұрын
Ya when he “just spoke to Phil he ain’t seeing nobody” he was really telling Carmine and Tony at the front doorstep while looking over at Ph Leotardo upstairs at the same time lol it’s an amazing talent to do that with just two sets of a eye lol
@SirDistic
@SirDistic 4 ай бұрын
He ain't had to do Butch like that.
@JSalonsky
@JSalonsky 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@rusamene
@rusamene 9 күн бұрын
Butch is just a gangster I suppose.
@PapiVanCrappy
@PapiVanCrappy 8 ай бұрын
If 99% of Sopranos fans come to agreement on how Tony died,... David Chase would say the opposite 🤣 We're never getting closure guys.
@mbeetroot8489
@mbeetroot8489 8 ай бұрын
Whilst I originally believed this to be the most likely theory after I finished watching for the 1st time, I realise now that it could just as easily be a dozen other things. There's no doubt a really creepy and eerie supernatural vibe to the sopranos that I think is really overlooked when it comes to discussions of the show, and the prophecies foretold throughout the show (Chris' 3 o clock warning, Junior's 'these things come in threes' etc.) Personally, I believe that Tony's everpresent and increasing self indulgence sets these prophecies in stone. And its through this almost cosmic wisdom that anybody could have killed Tony. He became such a hated person that there are hundreds of suspects in his death. It really doesn't matter who killed him, just that they did. That being said, I do believe Patsy and Paulie selling out Tony to new york was a plausible explanation but personally, I prefer the idea that this plan never came to fruition. I like to think that whilst their scheme was set in motion, Tony was killed in a widely unrelated event most watchers probably forgot about around 20 episodes ago. To me, Eugene's brother-in-law or other relative shot and killed Tony as revenge for driving him to suicide. The hit that Eugene was sent on in the diner, matched with the shooters' Members Only jacket, most likely inherited to him after Gene's death are clear hints at this. Notice how the man looks nervous, unsure of what he's about to do and unfamiliar with the act. He wants justice but is contemplating his options. As he lines up with Tony, at his 3 o clock, where Meadow is supposed to sit, he pulls the trigger and kills Tony in front of his family. Just like Gene did by hanging himself in the family's garage. Tony would have died anyway, it's just a matter of when. Selling out Tony was not that hard for Patsy or Paulie to do, but I disagree entirely with the idea they would have been comfortable killing him in front of his entire family whom they've known for years.
@JoeMama-dt4jg
@JoeMama-dt4jg 8 ай бұрын
But as the show has shown us multiple times, that “familial bond” is all bullshit. A prime example is from the sixth season when Paulie expressed contempt for having to pay dues to Carmela. “Fuck her!”….so I doubt that’d stop them…they’d probably look at it as the price of doing business
@NaZtRdAmUs
@NaZtRdAmUs 8 ай бұрын
"Look at him. He knows everything" - Livia
@iamjason1279
@iamjason1279 7 ай бұрын
Johnny was a saint…😪
@11fireflower
@11fireflower 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂​@@iamjason1279
@freddyconsoli975
@freddyconsoli975 6 ай бұрын
Poor you ! Lol
@shanlander-d8w
@shanlander-d8w 2 ай бұрын
@@freddyconsoli975I DONT LIKE THAT KIND OF TALWK!
@freddyconsoli975
@freddyconsoli975 2 ай бұрын
@@shanlander-d8w 😂😂😂
@icaanul
@icaanul 8 ай бұрын
It was the hasidic homeboy with the assistance of meadow. "He's lucky I didn't punch his lights out." He waited.... and waited.... and in the end, he punched tony's ticket. Lights out.
@rodbelding9523
@rodbelding9523 8 ай бұрын
Best theory so far. He put Tony's lights out, he was just waiting for the right moment.
@mosesjuice2
@mosesjuice2 8 ай бұрын
No it was the Jewish son in law that Tony shook down. He hid in the tunnels of New York waiting for Tony to slip up. Tony was doneski as soon as he entered that kosher diner. He came up from under the floorboards and done him in.
@jmac6069
@jmac6069 8 ай бұрын
Charcoal briquette?
@akattom
@akattom 2 ай бұрын
the moolinyan?
@rojhasan548
@rojhasan548 29 күн бұрын
Jamal Ginsberg...the hasidic homeboy
@WingsOfAgeOfConsent
@WingsOfAgeOfConsent 8 ай бұрын
Members only jacket guy was related to Eugene. Hired by Eugene's wife to wack tony for not letting Eugene retire. She had the funds to make it happen.
@Diego-it6gr
@Diego-it6gr 8 ай бұрын
She didn’t do it. She wasn’t even mad with Tony; from her perspective, Tony didn’t do it intentionally, just business. And if she was, she would have died trying: and if she had family in the mob, why weren’t they in the funeral?
@veritasinvicta8128
@veritasinvicta8128 8 ай бұрын
But that doesn't explain all of the foreshadowing (Through the first season to the last) pointing to P&P.
@keveardo
@keveardo 8 ай бұрын
She definitely said she wanted Eugene to put a bullet in his head, so this theory isnt that far fetched
@Lizard1582
@Lizard1582 8 ай бұрын
That's too reductive considering the amount of motive and foreshadowing for the other characters have who are used to killing people. The members only jacket is just a nod to an execution scene that wouldve been similar. Her being even able to buy the hit is pretty unbelievable as well. Whatever criminals are in the hitting business would know Tony isnt just some random target.
@misterrain837
@misterrain837 8 ай бұрын
No
@bakarandguladze
@bakarandguladze 8 ай бұрын
0:35 I knew it wasn't just me to call that dude Zelensky 😂😂😂😂
@rezokiladze2334
@rezokiladze2334 3 күн бұрын
Whats the joke?
@bakarandguladze
@bakarandguladze 2 күн бұрын
@@rezokiladze2334 ზელენსკის გავს ეგ ტიპი, ტონი ვინც მოკლა (???)
@user-nr6gx6of6z
@user-nr6gx6of6z 2 күн бұрын
I don't know slander if you ask me
@BM-vi5hk
@BM-vi5hk 2 ай бұрын
Actually I’m convinced Paulie helped have Tony killed. The only reason it’s never been confirmed is out of respect for the late Tony Sirico who took the part of Paulie only after being promised that his character wouldn’t end up a turncoat or rat. The open-ending kept that promise but at the same time the on-screen hints are too overwhelming to not come to that one conclusion. Perhaps Tony Sirico didn’t even know himself or he did and he went along with it because it could never be proven 100%. Some people look at Paulie’s final scene out front Satriale’s as a little bit sad because he’s all by himself but I look at it as the result of cleverness and machinations of a career criminal and cutthroat survivor who did what he had to do to keep himself alive.
@rojhasan548
@rojhasan548 29 күн бұрын
The boat scene when they are on the run may have been a massive catalyst for his move against Tony. Paulie must have thought his days were numbered after being grilled about that fat joke
@NeygarzruinedAmerica
@NeygarzruinedAmerica 5 күн бұрын
If you notice the scene when Tony is at his house with Paulie he looks out the window and sees AJs girlfriend. He probably tipped off NY to follow her to find Tony since she would go visit AJ. With Tony Sil and Chris gone no one left to avenge Tony. AJ for sure isnt gonna do it
@codingglides
@codingglides 4 күн бұрын
But Paulie already betrayed Tony when he told Jonny Sack about the joke. So him betraying Tony wouldn't have made Paulie a rat or a turncoat, because he was still operating within the mafia.
@codingglides
@codingglides 4 күн бұрын
@@NeygarzruinedAmerica It makes more sense that Patsy's asked his son where Meadow was going to be
@NeygarzruinedAmerica
@NeygarzruinedAmerica 4 күн бұрын
@@codingglides Paulie betrayed tony knowing that all the top Sopranos guys are ded. No retaliation. Patys already hated Tony for killing his brother. So he left Sil to die then the only one left is the boss
@Dalt1n999
@Dalt1n999 8 ай бұрын
I agree 100% with this theory, and may I add, the hitman looking and dressing like Eugene was just symbolism, he's not related to Eugene, he simply represents that Tony was not untouchable, and he could get killed by someone as low in the food chain as Eugene, someone Tony mistreated literally to death
@reddevil6585
@reddevil6585 8 ай бұрын
Ofcourse He doesn’t have president security & resources Wouldn’t take much
@it.was.written
@it.was.written 8 ай бұрын
Eugene wasn’t low on the food chain, he was a made man, untouchable himself.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 8 ай бұрын
@@it.was.written: Yeah. One of the few characters in the series for whom I felt sorry.
@twatmang1
@twatmang1 8 ай бұрын
you ought ta know sweetie@@KutWrite
@BookshelfQBattler
@BookshelfQBattler 7 ай бұрын
Arguably Eugene wasn’t mistreated. Eugene voluntarily entered the mob life knowing once you get on you never leave. He reaped all the money and benefits. It would have been nice if he could have left because of an unexpected inheritance but Tony let’s him leave pretty soon all the guys have a reason to leave and he gets accused of playing favorites letting Eugene go but no one else go.
@Guillermo_Carratero
@Guillermo_Carratero 8 ай бұрын
How much more betrayal can I take? I feel like I've been stabbed in the heart!!
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 8 ай бұрын
Grandpa Munster ova here.
@trentgragg1159
@trentgragg1159 7 ай бұрын
Paulie didn’t do it I refused to believe that, he really loved Tony
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 7 ай бұрын
@@trentgragg1159 Shit for brains ova here.
@Brooksey1992
@Brooksey1992 8 ай бұрын
The reason the ending is so great, is nobody is wrong. If you want your theory to be true, it is, and you being right doesn’t mean anyone else is wrong. There’s enough clues sprinkled throughout to support multiple theories, without shutting down the possibility of other theories. I hated the ending at first, but over a decade later, i have come to understand why it’s so great. Also lost count of Soprano references in the video, even some Wire ones thrown in too, top video Cine!
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, and when you look at all the good writing David Chase has done in his long career, it's far from an overnight success.
@KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je
@KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je 8 ай бұрын
Everyone is right and no one is wrong. A very cowardly way to tell a story, you don't offend anyone.
@Brooksey1992
@Brooksey1992 8 ай бұрын
So, should we have ended up with a generic ass boring ending like Boardwalk Empire then? Or maybe no ending at all, like Deadwood? Or an ending out of mercy to salvage the final season, like The Wire? No my friend, Sopranos ending is excellent.
@cursed_arzine
@cursed_arzine 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely man, the awesome thing David Chase did was sprinkle moments of mystique thru the series and left some things up to interpretation, fed into the realistic, and yet supernatural, elements of the show
@kennethbgoodin
@kennethbgoodin 8 ай бұрын
to me the brilliance of the ending is really that no matter which interpretation you subscribe to, ultimately it doesn’t matter. tony is living in a hell of his own making whether he dies in the restaurant or in some other dispute or of natural causes from his gluttonous lifestyle. he will continually alienate himself from anyone close in the exact way his mother did as long as he is alive.
@alexvanzandt8517
@alexvanzandt8517 8 ай бұрын
Heres a bigger question who ate tony's lo mein ?
@BaronSaturday66
@BaronSaturday66 8 ай бұрын
Bobby Baccala of course.
@alexvanzandt8517
@alexvanzandt8517 8 ай бұрын
@@BaronSaturday66 He had family obligations, ask his wife
@robertlee4172
@robertlee4172 8 ай бұрын
Chris got the $25 Toblerone bar, that much we do know. The empty Mallowmar box is still up for debate.
@jonathandosman5496
@jonathandosman5496 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha just watched that this evening
@GoldenStateGOAT
@GoldenStateGOAT 6 ай бұрын
@@BaronSaturday66"i was hungry"
@prst4190
@prst4190 8 ай бұрын
Members only is a reference to NJ not being one of the five NY families, truly not of their stature . NJ has been out of bounds for a long time and it’s time to settle accounts. Pure and simple.
@paulstrathern4309
@paulstrathern4309 8 ай бұрын
Butch certainly had motive and means to off Tony, and I think he DID, but I never viewed Paulie or Patsy to be that Machiavellian. Paulie wasn't even savvy enough to pick up on the fact that Johnny Sack was simply using him as a mole to get inside info on the Sopranos. I always thought it was one of three things that happened: 1) Tony gets hit right in front of his family. Reason: This is the way that Phil got hit 2) There's an attempt on Tony's life but Meadow surprises the hitman and she gets hit instead. Reason: This is what happened in Godfather 3 3) No one gets hit, they finish their dinner and Tony ends up flipping. Reason: The real life mob boss of the DeCavalcante family that Tony is based on, Billy Ocean, turns informant.
@codeallnight56514
@codeallnight56514 8 ай бұрын
His name is Vinnie Ocean not Billy Ocean
@pinehawk9600
@pinehawk9600 8 ай бұрын
Billy Ocean 😂
@paulstrathern4309
@paulstrathern4309 8 ай бұрын
@@codeallnight56514 Right. My bad. They gave him his nickname based on Billy Ocean
@andrewfernandez7410
@andrewfernandez7410 8 ай бұрын
You're wrong. It's Daniel Ocean. ​@@codeallnight56514
@codeallnight56514
@codeallnight56514 8 ай бұрын
@@paulstrathern4309 it's all good man
@joypadretro2797
@joypadretro2797 8 ай бұрын
i LOVE that 25 years after this series started, we're still not very sure on what happend at the end, and discussing isstill is fun to me!
@theonlygoodonehere2259
@theonlygoodonehere2259 8 ай бұрын
its getting tiring honestly
@joypadretro2797
@joypadretro2797 8 ай бұрын
i get you @@theonlygoodonehere2259 i understand that many people have had enough of that content. You know what i also like, but these seem to be banned from youtube; those Soprano Mini Sagas. The Vito Johnny Cakes story for example. Too bad it was banned.
@chrisairgood310
@chrisairgood310 5 ай бұрын
Patsy is part of plot. Paulie also. Tony was killed at the end. He never had the makings of a varsity athlete
@toneriggz
@toneriggz 8 ай бұрын
My theory is that it’s an Animal Blundetto type of a scenario (always with the scenarios). Some hitter upset by Phil getting clipped, going rogue and taking Tony out. Non sanctioned hit, pure revenge. I don’t think Butch would go back on his word but it’s possible he didn’t have control over every guy on the street. Ultimately it doesn’t matter, could’ve been anyone. What matters is that T got clipped and thus the story is done.
@mbeetroot8489
@mbeetroot8489 8 ай бұрын
A relative of Eugene is my best guess, I 100% agree
@stevenspilly
@stevenspilly 8 ай бұрын
I don't think there was anyone left that really liked Phil enough to go rogue. Paulie's face when he left the Bing makes no sense unless he was plotting against Tony.
@iamjason1279
@iamjason1279 7 ай бұрын
16yrs later and we’re still taking about possible theories in the sopranos, just goes to show how good of a show this was.
@illwitness
@illwitness 2 ай бұрын
What I can absolutely guarantee you is, no one will ever be talking about the Game of Thrones ending.
@waynegreen87
@waynegreen87 8 ай бұрын
Idk if Paulie is truly a part of the scheme and he considered a rat because of the mere fact that the creators of the show signed a deal with Tony Sirico agreeing that his character wouldn’t be a rat. Cutting ties with the family is a different scenario however..
@wyldhowl2821
@wyldhowl2821 7 ай бұрын
Paulie was not rat. If he did not like cats, perhaps he was a dog, and every dog has his day.
@devangnivatkar2649
@devangnivatkar2649 2 ай бұрын
He was already a 'rat' for Johnny Sack
@evanwilliams9588
@evanwilliams9588 2 ай бұрын
But we the audience still can’t be sure this all happened. So the show implying his character is a rat with this theory doesn’t actually show PW being a rat on screen.
@nickstone1587
@nickstone1587 Ай бұрын
@@devangnivatkar2649 I always thought that. For all the "not being a rat contract" thing, he's literally a rat.
@biglootums5243
@biglootums5243 8 ай бұрын
100% Paulie was in on it. The other aspects I sway back and forth on, but I just don't believe that Paulie wasn't trying to get rid of Tony at the end. Honestly the fact that he wasn't clipped by one of his own capos before the end is a borderline religious miracle
@JoeRickards-w3i
@JoeRickards-w3i 8 ай бұрын
I disagree. I don't think Paulie wanted to be Boss. He got through the 70's by the skin of his balls because he stayed off the radar
@DH-xh3pg
@DH-xh3pg 8 ай бұрын
Paulie says something to Patsy likes”it’s yours for the taking” or something like that. I think Patsy probably became Boss and Paulie as Underboss….
@TheRedPeril
@TheRedPeril 8 ай бұрын
@@DH-xh3pgPatsy running New Jersey. Nah.
@antoniopavicevac-ortiz8886
@antoniopavicevac-ortiz8886 7 ай бұрын
It's clear Paulie was interviewing for something. Remember the times him gabbing with Johnny. And there was a discussion he had with someone from NY towards the end, but i can't remember who.
@conservakid85
@conservakid85 7 ай бұрын
If Paulie was in on it, no way he approves Tony getting clipped in front of Carmela and the kids.
@Jmar1024
@Jmar1024 4 ай бұрын
Tony killing Paulie in his dream with the screen going black is the biggest clue that Paulie sold him out. Tony's future and correct strategies has always been revealed to him in symbolism in his dreams
@daviddanielsson3643
@daviddanielsson3643 8 ай бұрын
This theory is the right one: Vito faked his own death. The man in the member's only jacket went to the bathroom 'cause it had a glory hole and he was meeting Vito there. When the door bell rang Vito came through the door. Tony had a panic attack and blacked out from the chock.
@Fenrisdog999
@Fenrisdog999 8 ай бұрын
Amazing theory
@cursed_arzine
@cursed_arzine 8 ай бұрын
Vito comes thru the door and says “Tony Soprano; my arch nemesis >:)”
@misterdonwaters
@misterdonwaters 6 ай бұрын
😂
@rojhasan548
@rojhasan548 29 күн бұрын
How did Vito get there...he only had the one pool cue shoved up there...would he not need 2 shoved up there for some level of bipedalness?
@GeneralProfessor
@GeneralProfessor 8 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does the Members Only guy look strangely similar to Tony's father?
@bentencho
@bentencho 8 ай бұрын
Unlikely Patsy would send someone to whack Tony at the diner. Meadow could have easily been caught in between and killed. Whatever Patsy's issue with Tony was, I doubt he would put his son's fiancee, his own future daughter-in-law, needlessly at risk.
@TheWhackyIraqi
@TheWhackyIraqi 8 ай бұрын
He’s a cold blooded guy I don’t think he cares about that. From his perspective, his son can just go marry someone else. His son marrying Meadow doesn’t benefit him in any way.
@marissac870
@marissac870 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't doubt the son was playing the daughter. All apart of it.
@FH-hu5vn
@FH-hu5vn 8 ай бұрын
He could have given the instructions for the hit to take place when she wasn’t near, sine it happens before she’s at the table.
@marissac870
@marissac870 8 ай бұрын
@@FH-hu5vn watching the last episodes again after going thru the season. and it's obvious Paulie and Patsy said Bye Bye 👋 ByeBye Tony. They knew the deal.
@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul
@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul 18 күн бұрын
Good point.
@itzshowtim3
@itzshowtim3 8 ай бұрын
"Butch had his eyes everywhere" underrated and multi layered wording 😂😂😂😂
@paperdoll5467
@paperdoll5467 8 ай бұрын
I never tire of discussing any part of the Sopranos, "but you do what you gotta do".
@11fireflower
@11fireflower 7 ай бұрын
😅😂😂
@NateG219
@NateG219 5 ай бұрын
It's a hard one, because I love it. And ending with Tony's Death, makes sense (considering the last few episodes), but it doesn't matter, it was left to our imagination, which is the best, we have our own ending. Members only jackets, yet outdated, still were worn by idiots that were stuck in the 80's, people on occasion wore them still, and today, if found
@rig2037
@rig2037 3 ай бұрын
@@NateG219I own a members only jacket lol
@NateG219
@NateG219 3 ай бұрын
@@rig2037 😂😂😂
@TheRealFeechLaManna
@TheRealFeechLaManna 8 ай бұрын
Neither Paulie nor Patsy ever had any initiative in them. No real ambition. No doubt Butch and NY killed Tony as revenge plus that's what you get for killing a boss, but I see no reason to involve P&P.
@JayP7.62
@JayP7.62 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing about the cat but both Christopher and Paulie were rats. Which is why the cats is attracted to both.
@apstrike
@apstrike 8 ай бұрын
I don't believe these three could organize a successful hit on a boss without messing it up or being discovered.
@jessicamarsano2935
@jessicamarsano2935 7 ай бұрын
They might mess it up. They might be discovered. But as the scene cut...you get to invent your own ending. I guess that's the genius of it all! I like your idea they messed it up. I love speculating on different endings and how they'd play out. I love that the characters are so well developed.
@sillanumerius
@sillanumerius Ай бұрын
Another clue would be the scene in which Petsy's wife looks under the plate to probably find out whether it is expensive goods. Because she was somehow informed by her husband that Tony would soon die.
@rojhasan548
@rojhasan548 29 күн бұрын
Paulie would've announced it on the megaphone to half of Jersey while eating Danish pastries
@Jimmyfly215
@Jimmyfly215 8 ай бұрын
Tony had the head of one of the 5 families killed. even if Phil's own crew stood down, that is still a top offense in the mob. you need a nod and a OK from all 4 other bosses for a boss to get whacked. nobody would have given Tony that. technically, not that the show covered this, but anyone in NY could have killed Tony. maybe thats why nobody knows who the hell the members only guy was.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 8 ай бұрын
Yes. I vaguely recall that's how they chose the actor to play Members Only Guy. It's an interesting interview on YT.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 6 ай бұрын
@@thechasethompsonI'd have to search, same as you.
@misterdonwaters
@misterdonwaters 6 ай бұрын
This was what I always assumed. You don’t just go vigilante justice and not face consequences.
@caesarjergens
@caesarjergens 5 ай бұрын
Except for the fact that NY agreed and a third, respected party, was present so this was not an act out of nowhere. The families don`t go to war without reason because when there is a war there a no earning and no-one is kicking up. In the end it is all about money and nothing else.
@dominikz.1376
@dominikz.1376 8 ай бұрын
Pauline sitting at 3’oclock on the motor yacht, Pauline bringing box of scissors / Judas’ 30 pieces of silver relation discovery: great video: I’m impressed by the detail and revelations!
@jackmunch6978
@jackmunch6978 8 ай бұрын
I dunno….F’ing slander if you ask me.
@dougfraser77
@dougfraser77 6 ай бұрын
"Butch had his eyes... everywhere" I love the continual little jokes you throw in
@charlesindig8101
@charlesindig8101 8 ай бұрын
This show is by far the best TV series Ive ever seen! over 25yrs later and its still very much talked about. With the ending......... I believe Butch conspired with Paulie to have Tony whacked!
@Tusc9969
@Tusc9969 8 ай бұрын
IMO Little carmine was in on the tony hit with NY. You can see he was trying to warn and counsel tony the last time they talked but dramas and deaths seemed to be the norm with tony as acting boss of NJ. So, when you hear little carmine say "it didn't have to be this way..." at the final sitdown and then walk off with butchie after I knew they were gonna whack him. The truce would've been the perfect opportunity to whack him while his guard was down. The fact that the hit was in front of his family was payback for the hit on phil in front of his wife and grandkids.
@brobsty1856
@brobsty1856 8 ай бұрын
Carm and AJ die too
@DH-xh3pg
@DH-xh3pg 8 ай бұрын
@brobsty1856 what makes you say that? That’s against the rules.
@Carmine_Lupertazzi
@Carmine_Lupertazzi 8 ай бұрын
Carmine stands on his own in his last scene. Doesn't walk off with anyone.
@Carmine_Lupertazzi
@Carmine_Lupertazzi 8 ай бұрын
​@DH-xh3pg watch the Sopranos Superbowl commercial, and its breakdown.
@grahambuckerfield4640
@grahambuckerfield4640 8 ай бұрын
‘Butch had his eyes everywhere’, Cold. (Keep them coming though!)
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 8 ай бұрын
Butchie treats eye contact like manhole covers.
@omidsarmad
@omidsarmad 8 ай бұрын
You say there wont be a preamble but spend the first five minutes saying nothing.
@DarthBlue13
@DarthBlue13 8 ай бұрын
I always thought Patsy he definitely had the motive and he could easily take over given the marriage between Meadow and his son but ultimately Tony had to go no matter what his crew and New York couldn't have him at the table any longer.
@psychkosys
@psychkosys 7 ай бұрын
I always felt New York called the sit-down to get Tony's guard down. I dont believe with the amount of bullets coming at him when they hit Sil that Patsy was involved. Not everyone can be an expert marksmen like Bobby. 🎯 Why all the Jinny Sacrimoni cracks? Shes beautiful! Rubenesque!
@pbr_and_b
@pbr_and_b 8 ай бұрын
You really really really do not need to give a full synopsis of The Sopranos every video. I think everyone has it by now
@18pablo88
@18pablo88 8 ай бұрын
Remember Pauline survived by the skin of his nuts when that thing with the columbos went down
@jacknemo8021
@jacknemo8021 7 ай бұрын
Don Ho was a Hawaiian entertainer, Gung ho was the phrase you were reaching for.
@smacwhinnie
@smacwhinnie 8 ай бұрын
Chris’s Mother did it. Chris was wearing a wired ball cap the last night he was driving Tony. FBI had video of Tony killing Chris, they showed it to Mrs. Moltisanti
@michaelparrella2151
@michaelparrella2151 8 ай бұрын
Eugene whacked teddy spirodakis (TS) in a members only jacket. The members only jacket guy whacks tony soprano (TS). That’s a huge piece of evidence.
@mixelplik
@mixelplik Ай бұрын
Good catch!
@2011americanman
@2011americanman 15 күн бұрын
Yep. Both over weight big guys having a meal and boom. Basically gave you the ending in the first episode of season 6.
@wilsonbelle6600
@wilsonbelle6600 18 күн бұрын
I'll always be convinced that Tony looking up at the restaurant door chiming and the cut to black was simply an illustration that in the life he chose, every sound could be something dangerous or life-ending, and there was never a moment one could not be expecting it might happen.
@Thailand_Dan
@Thailand_Dan 8 ай бұрын
Love how you slip in malapropism lines in all your videos. You even used my favorite line from the series: "create a little dysentery among the ranks"
@Edfiki86
@Edfiki86 8 ай бұрын
zelensky would have asked Tony for a few billion.
@r3771-n2r
@r3771-n2r 8 ай бұрын
It was little Carmine. You see Carmine was only playing at being Fredo, he was really Michael lying low pretending to keep the peace until the perfect moment to settle all family business. Also to make sure Tony did not sing his guts out to the feds, which Tony definitely would.
@vincentcrowley5196
@vincentcrowley5196 5 күн бұрын
What I liked about Tony & Junior's final scene together is that Junior does remember "the little moments that were good" . He recalls Tony as the kid he used to play catch with despite Tony telling him that Junior and his brother Johnny , Tony's dad, ran North Jersey . It shows that it isn't money , power, prestige, that make you happy in your final days. I think Paulie just lucked out. Perhaps he is just the ultimate survivor, he is the oldest one, who was there before all the others so he is the last one left
@chozenwon1234567
@chozenwon1234567 8 ай бұрын
2:29 "toxikitty" had me dead for some reason lol
@i3illiejoearmstrong378
@i3illiejoearmstrong378 8 ай бұрын
I don’t know. Fucking slander if you ask me!
@garyfrombrooklyn
@garyfrombrooklyn 8 ай бұрын
5:02 I know I’m not the only one but damn dude, that had me laughing for a moment there. Had to pause the clip “Butchie had his eyes everywhere” perfect 🤌🏽
@seanrichmond6507
@seanrichmond6507 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it got me lol
@SumTimezTheyHaveClipUs
@SumTimezTheyHaveClipUs 8 ай бұрын
Agree 💯. However, why doesn't any of you guys bring up the key person that almost proves the hit was by them? Corky!! Why would Paulie and Patsy be talking with Corky at the bar? The guy who is linked to just about all top-level hits and setting them up? That's the key to the entire theory!!
@stevenspilly
@stevenspilly 8 ай бұрын
That's very insightful. The sacred and the propane.
@berry541
@berry541 8 ай бұрын
Corky is easily my favorite minor character. I would a spinoff series about his life.
@stuglenn1112
@stuglenn1112 8 ай бұрын
Butch and family smoked Tony, Patsy had no involvement or knowledge, Paulie wasn't involved but knew it was coming. It was as clear as day.
@bigdemon6560
@bigdemon6560 6 ай бұрын
Did y’all get even watch the video ?
@vanovhs
@vanovhs 8 ай бұрын
What if I tell you it wasn't Phil's murder that caused Tony's murder, and it was Soprano stomping on the head of Coco Cogliano, who was Butchie's close friend and right-hand man. In Season 6, Butchie turned on Phil, and the reprisal of Coco was the trigger point for the war between The New York and Jersey. And, more importantly, there’s a possibility, the Butchie deliberately didn't ask Coco to apologize to Tony, thus provoking the conflict: the war was to his advantage, as he could take over Don's position after Phil's demise.
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x 8 ай бұрын
I hated Paulie so much I really despise people like that where you treat them better than they deserve and better than anybody else treats them but they still consider it betrayal because they delusionally believe they deserved more, somehow Paulie talking about how everyone is betraying him while he was backstabbing his family at every turn
@metrobar3367
@metrobar3367 8 ай бұрын
He did die. Chase referred to the scene as the death scene in an interview !! So it’s been confirmed.
@OriginalKenDoll
@OriginalKenDoll 8 ай бұрын
When did he say that?
@metrobar3367
@metrobar3367 8 ай бұрын
@@OriginalKenDoll in a daily mail interview. Won’t let me link
@codeallnight56514
@codeallnight56514 8 ай бұрын
A likely story
@metrobar3367
@metrobar3367 8 ай бұрын
@@codeallnight56514 not hard to search for it.
@metrobar3367
@metrobar3367 8 ай бұрын
Coauthor Zoller Seitz instantly highlight the slip saying, ‘You realize, of course, that you just referred to that as a death scene’. ‘F*** you guys’, Chase answered.
@logenkangiesser5880
@logenkangiesser5880 8 ай бұрын
I think the Members Only jacket is more symbolic meant to remind you of all the people Tony had wronged and therefore reinforce the idea that revenge is likely coming from some direction.
@AffectedArea
@AffectedArea 8 ай бұрын
I agree even though I enjoy the theory that Eugene's wife used her money to hire someone to get Tony.
@tallvagabond6682
@tallvagabond6682 8 ай бұрын
For the love of God Tony didn’t die. Think about it. He would have seen anyone approaching from the front or the side the way he was looking around at everybody. We could see there was no one coming from behind. He was looking right at the camera (right into our eyes) when the screen went to black. WE ARE THE ONE THAT WAS WACKED!!!! We all followed and we all wanted to be in Tony’s gang. We all wanted to be in the action with the gang. We just never expected to get one in the head. You get wacked when you least expect it. And we did not expect it. That is how you die….just black….see nothing hear nothing it’s just OVER just like the series was over. And tony is not the one who had us wacked. He would not have done that with his family there. Someone from New York had us wacked.
@johnnymoondog9474
@johnnymoondog9474 8 ай бұрын
Patsy's piss and Paulie's ego brought us to this
@psykonauta
@psykonauta 3 ай бұрын
Tony didn’t have time to know who it was that killed him. Neither do us. The show was through the eyes of tony.
@MidTierVillain
@MidTierVillain 8 ай бұрын
Tony never found out who was telling New York Family their business, and playing both sides.. also remember Paulie stating he’d do the hit, if they ever need him, when he said, “if Carmine needs anything, ANYTHING.. “ Plus, Paulie was very bitter, and felt like he deserved a turn at the head of the table.. that’s why he gave Chris such a hard time, he knew Chris would be the next one due bloodline.
@QeepingItReal
@QeepingItReal 4 ай бұрын
i'm gonna tell you a couple of three things. tony clearly figured out it was paulie who leaked the fat joke to johnny sachs. in the episode where they go to florida to lay low. paulie clearly realized johnny sachs was playing him when carmine sr. didn't recognize him.
@viktorstojanovic9007
@viktorstojanovic9007 2 ай бұрын
@@QeepingItReal that's two things
@THE_CDN
@THE_CDN 8 ай бұрын
"causing dysentery in the ranks" Lol! Nobody likes dysentery. Wash your hands, kids!
@aunch3
@aunch3 8 ай бұрын
It’s already been solved. Tony, AJ, and Carmella all died in the diner. There were 2 shooters and we saw them both. They used a .22 and .45. Likely AJ and Carmella were killed in the crossfire, not on purpose, by either way they went too. The final scene was a Last Supper ritual, as Chase himself said. There’s a great video on YT that explains it in detail it’s well worth watching as he nails it. Patsy was not involved. If he was the shooters wouldn’t have gone after him when they shot Sil at the Bing, and he wouldn’t have fired back at them. Paulie on the other hand probably was at least aware
@TheFruityJew
@TheFruityJew 8 ай бұрын
AJ never died as there was a superbowl ad set years after the final episode for A car company with AJ and Meadow meeting up together both naturally aged and Meadow is wearing Tony’s jewellery. I took that as Tony is gone and they moved on from the life
@aLaCooManChu
@aLaCooManChu 2 ай бұрын
How did Godfather III rip anything off the Sopranos? Godfather III was released in 1990.
@paulsteffens1550
@paulsteffens1550 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. This has what I've been thinking for years.
@melissah9125
@melissah9125 6 ай бұрын
I love your channel so much, just discovered it tonight. I wish you had a podcast so we all could discuss. I have many thoughts brought on by your brilliant synopses
@stonedage5087
@stonedage5087 8 ай бұрын
The NJ and the NY crew got together to take him out for sure.
@uncletrick1
@uncletrick1 8 ай бұрын
I hope when you said “cause dysentery in the ranks” it was meant as a joke.
@MooreEducation
@MooreEducation 8 ай бұрын
Patsy killed Tony. Plain and simple. I can't see how anyone could think it was anyone else. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@wyldhowl2821
@wyldhowl2821 7 ай бұрын
"It won't be cinematic." Well, given the last scene, I guess it wasn't ?
@2011americanman
@2011americanman 15 күн бұрын
NY shot at him when Silvio was shot.
@Dulceria-La-Princesita
@Dulceria-La-Princesita 4 ай бұрын
It's mind-boggling how there can be so many WRONG explanations of the ending. Let me illuminate the truth. Moments before the black screen, Carmela, while sitting in the booth, enjoying onion rings, farts. It isn't a dignified lady fart, it's a big, wet, nasty shack shaker. Her eyes dart around seeing if anyone notices. Then, a look of absolute fear falls upon her face as it becomes apparent that she's now sitting in a warm and stinky plop of soft mud.
@Duneek
@Duneek 8 ай бұрын
I think your "Members Only" explanation is the best. I don't think the other families would hold Tony at fault for Phil dying in a war Phil started, especially considering Tony's underboss is in a permanent coma and his brother-in-law and consigliere is dead as a result of that war. An official peace was made so I don't think it was New York.
@JGD714
@JGD714 8 ай бұрын
You got those positions switched.
@Carmine_Lupertazzi
@Carmine_Lupertazzi 8 ай бұрын
Sil was consigliere, Bobby was underboss.
@Duneek
@Duneek 8 ай бұрын
@@JGD714 Good catch. I mixed them up
@stevenspilly
@stevenspilly 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget Tony was likely about to get arrested - again - because one of his top capos had agreed to testify. The risk of Tony cooperating would be enough for new York and what was left of his crew to re-evaluate. Tony was likely to be in jail awaiting trial, anyway, so why not get rid of him and eliminate the risk + get the soprano family working under new management. Or just absorb what was left.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 8 ай бұрын
@@stevenspilly: Yes. The ending of "Casino" comes to mind
@flovesjesus1052
@flovesjesus1052 2 ай бұрын
I believe that in the end Tony was killed because he pissed everyone off and he needed to go! I also believe although not mentioned that Dr. Jennifer M was also killed. Nearing series end the cat was out of the bag that Tony was talking to a shrink, which in the underworld talking about anything outside of that circle is strictly forbidden! Tony even referenced to his wife while in bed in an earlier episode that if anyone knew it would be “One in the head” something like that! Which makes him a rat as well! Also as viewers we witnessed Tony talking to Feds at one of Tony’s spots about potential terrorist activity. I’m sure one of his guys seen this and that just adds to the fact that maybe or maybe not Tony was on the verge of flipping. So a combination of all these sealed his fate!
@Lossandthepanda
@Lossandthepanda 8 ай бұрын
Thank you that was great
@jonasalves7492
@jonasalves7492 8 ай бұрын
I had never thought about that dream with Silvio followed by killing Paulie... I think you combine that with the Cat Scene in the end, along with the fact that Paulie was not a loyal person... He was definitely involved
@jarrettbakersr
@jarrettbakersr 8 ай бұрын
Anyone else catch that ‘The Wire’ reference? ‘…Just a gangsta, I suppose”. Great stuff. Anyways, great video and I see your points, but I still think it was Eugene’s family with all of the symbolism.
@iraevans2013
@iraevans2013 8 ай бұрын
I always felt the most fitting end was just a stroke. He just dies right there. No drama. Both expected and unexpected. Completely unsatisfying for everyone. Forever debated. Epically anticlimactic 👌
@berry541
@berry541 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely. A stroke or heart attack. Tony’s fear of betrayal reached its end. Tony was betrayed by his own body. What could be more insidious than that? What could be less cinematic than that?
@jaymum23
@jaymum23 3 ай бұрын
@@berry541 James Gandolfini’s own death is a clue to Tony’s fate as the screen goes black then…
@rig2037
@rig2037 3 ай бұрын
Makes no sense. Thats a delusional ending.
@rsmith7994
@rsmith7994 6 ай бұрын
So, Butch heard through the grapevine that Tony was about to go down on a RICO case? Was Tony taking the same blood pressure medication as Vito? Was Butch also struggling with homosexual self-loathing like Phil? This show is like an onion. 😂
@MomMom4Cubs
@MomMom4Cubs 8 ай бұрын
I think Tony may have died in the coma. His arc thereafter was almost nightmarelike in the way he not-quite purposely shed himself of his humanity in his feverish race to kill his soul before his body could die.
@alexiszaraza6673
@alexiszaraza6673 8 ай бұрын
Maybe this you say is the "I get it!" moment Tony had in Vegas 🤔
@OGtalks
@OGtalks 18 күн бұрын
remember when tony was in the coma and carmella said ; vito and pauline are two people tony shouldn't trust ....
@egoborder3203
@egoborder3203 8 ай бұрын
I always thought Paulie was involved. The show made a big deal of showing how their relationship deteriorated. Going from admiration and (mostly) loyalty to increasing resentment and undermining. Patsi is also a shoe-in as I don't think he ever forgave Tony for his brother and probably was aware that deep down Tony didn't trust him because of that. As for Butch, he personally wanted to kill Tony and it's likely New York would support him given Tony's state by end of the show
@adamh8368
@adamh8368 6 ай бұрын
Or everyone in the restaurant was a fed and Tony was going to be arrested.
@cliffhass9158
@cliffhass9158 7 ай бұрын
The fact that people still are talking about the ending means that it was definetly one of the best endings ever
@MrArdytube
@MrArdytube 8 ай бұрын
I see both Paulie and Patsie would be willing to tacitly go along with removing Tony…. But i just do not see either of them to be significant players in the ultimate plot. I agree that Butchie was a key player in the final plot. But i also agree that he is clearly not Boss material, And, if you look at Butchie’s role up to this point… he was an operations guy, taking kind of an under boss role. This role continued in the final sit down with Tony and Carmine. At the final sit down, there has to be a reason that Carmine was there. If everyone thought Carmine was the village idiot who was comfortably retired in Florida. WHY WAS CARMINE AT THE SIT DoWN? It seems to me that CARMINE was acting as interim boss in the absence of Phil. So, if Carmine was the interim boss, and Phil was agreed to be killed…. Then Carmine becomes the defacto boss…. And necessarily would have been involved in taking out Tony. The hitman himself could have been related to the members only jacket, or that could just be literary fore shadowing
@dantecrab4
@dantecrab4 8 ай бұрын
i think it was the ancient Chinese strategist Sun Kazoo who said: "you gotta get it how ya living, gang."
@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw
@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw 8 ай бұрын
They should make a sequel with Meadow as state prosecutor figuring out who killed her father. Start it with a flash back to the diner where the screen went black. They could use fan theories for dead end leads lol. We need Meadow in a basement like Charlie from IASIP figuring out who Pepe Silvia was.
@GladbachCEO
@GladbachCEO 8 ай бұрын
It clearly was the vipers
@edwardchamberlain4910
@edwardchamberlain4910 8 ай бұрын
Do you think Meadow will still marry Patsy’s son after Tony is killed?
@littlekeithy
@littlekeithy 8 ай бұрын
I could agree with the theory except i don't think any of the three were boss material, and they would need to pass the killing of a boss by the other families. That's why Little Carmine is key as he could be the boss and cement the deal. However, there is a large fly in the ointment. Agent Harris tells Tony that he has an informant who said that Phil's out to get him. And at the stage of proceedings it looks like only Butchie and the Consigliere knew Phil's mind. So it could be that the Consigliere is going to have them all rounded up anyway (along with whatever Carlo says).
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 8 ай бұрын
Yes, and Little Carmine was much more inherent than people gave him credit for.
@osman732
@osman732 8 ай бұрын
08:44 There is awkwardness that they play off as a breach of etiquette (i.e. Tony serving Patsy a drink). But Tony's accusing him: "Your son and Carlo's were thick as thieves. He got pinched and you knew. So why did I only hear about it a day later, second hand from Paulie?" Tony only has suspicions at this point. But really his captains are trying to frustrate Tony from making defensive moves (either more violence or going on the lam) because they know he's due to get clipped shortly.
@AlexJonesInfo
@AlexJonesInfo 8 ай бұрын
Paulie had T whacked
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