Tin Canning Lids?

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Cody'sLab

Cody'sLab

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@guyfriedman295
@guyfriedman295 6 жыл бұрын
Could you use Aluminium instead of Tin?
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 жыл бұрын
Not without some sort of protetive coating, acids in the food will attack bare aluminum and the result is potentially toxic.
@guyfriedman295
@guyfriedman295 6 жыл бұрын
Ah,ok. Tnx for the reply btw! ;)
@anatoleh1
@anatoleh1 6 жыл бұрын
What about other, more unusual metals? That'd be fun to try :)
@Slouworker
@Slouworker 6 жыл бұрын
@@theCodyReeder what about gold?!
@carlyonbay45
@carlyonbay45 6 жыл бұрын
Should AVOID aluminium in cooking and food prep - large amounts of aluminium have been found in brains of patients with dementia and Alzheimers ...
@shoutingintothevoid3072
@shoutingintothevoid3072 6 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I’ve seen tin snips snipping tin.
@telephony
@telephony 6 жыл бұрын
Same here -- that came immediately to mind when Cody was trimming the excess material off of the TIN lids using TIN snips!!! :-)
@crazym108
@crazym108 6 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the first time I used duct tape to tape a duct.
@Broockle
@Broockle 6 жыл бұрын
He used those before on tin. And before that vid I had never heard of tin snips actually xD
@1224chrisng
@1224chrisng 6 жыл бұрын
@@crazym108 Isn't it illegal to use "Duct" Tape to Tape a Duct in California? That's why (if it wasn't trademarked) it should be called Duck Tape, as to not make anyone to flood their basement with false etymologies (and also because Duck Tape is made of cotton duck, a type of fabric).
@stapuft
@stapuft 6 жыл бұрын
@@1224chrisng I don't know about California, but it has many names one of which is "200 mph tape" because it can be used to patch outside components on airplanes. And as someone who used to be in the heating and air industry, we do use duct tape on ducts, there is a plastic tube you use the duct tape to attach it to the boxes, and the metal tape for the insulation that goes over the top of it. So while duct tape is used on ducts, it's not the only tape used. Also.ducts have nothing, NOTHING to do with flooding, ducts are the system that air travels around your house if you have central air.
@ElZamo92
@ElZamo92 6 жыл бұрын
Those pines (that I originally mistook for rosemary) you’re potting at the end of the video reminded me of when I randomly planted a piece of spare rosemary in my mom’s garden a couple years ago. It ended up becoming a giant bush the gardener would cut into various shapes. It has been a pair of dolphins, a giraffe, an elephant, a camel, a sphere, a cylinder and lots of other whacky shapes. It was (and still is) an unlimited supply of rosemary for us and the rest of the family.
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 жыл бұрын
For the life of me I cannot keep a rosemary plant alive, perhaps its the climate.
@1320crusier
@1320crusier 6 жыл бұрын
You shouldve seen the never ending parsley plant I hand... Green even under snow...
@planbuildrepeat8264
@planbuildrepeat8264 6 жыл бұрын
The cilantro plants used to completely take over my family's garden. We ended up having unlimited fresh cilantro in season and all the coriander we could want for the rest of the time.
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
What state and agricultural zone are you in? I love spanish and mexican food.
@planbuildrepeat8264
@planbuildrepeat8264 6 жыл бұрын
@@johnpossum556North central Texas near the trinity river. Very dense clay in this area.
@jeremyturner2873
@jeremyturner2873 6 жыл бұрын
Cody, you may be one of the few people in the world to use tin snips on actual tin.
@AJMansfield1
@AJMansfield1 6 жыл бұрын
Except the ones he's using are technically aviation snips (because of the compound joint) rather than tin snips...
@Keldor314
@Keldor314 6 жыл бұрын
And there effectively only trace amounts of tin in there. Still though! ^.^
@ElGeFe
@ElGeFe 6 жыл бұрын
he used them on his tin lids too.
@chunchunmaru6057
@chunchunmaru6057 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElGeFe m mm mmx
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 6 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that boiling jars when canning serves to sterilize the contents as well as driving off the air. I guess the air is the important part to get rid of to prevent growth so maybe the vacuum chamber is good enough. As I was typing this comment I got far enough in the video to see you did boil the jars so I guess that answers that. I wonder though how a jar sealed in a vacuum chamber without boiling would compare after some months to one boiled. Peaches are going to have a lot of gasses inside that have a hard time escaping so there's where the expansion problems are coming from.
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think if you go the vacuum rout it may make sense to thoroughly cook them first.
@thetraitor3852
@thetraitor3852 6 жыл бұрын
Cody, you should make an experiment to find out if the can has botulism or not. Maybe also do a test on a can that has already gone bad too.
@MaakaSakuranbo
@MaakaSakuranbo 6 жыл бұрын
It always seems odd to me that people type comments before watching the complete video
@axelskull
@axelskull 6 жыл бұрын
id imagine you might get some sort of anaerobic bacteria growing in there
@Keldor314
@Keldor314 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think you're removing the air to prevent growth so much as to just create a nice suction seal on the lid. After all, sterilizing canning doesn't do much good if it's leaky! I think the expansion problems are mostly coming from too hard a vacuum causing everything to boil, though. A gentler vacuum and/or ramping it up slowly could solve both the boiling and gas expansion problems leading to the foaming.
@aachor
@aachor 6 жыл бұрын
Tin is very soft. Have you considered pressing it with a die instead of casting it?
@dougsundseth2303
@dougsundseth2303 6 жыл бұрын
Were you using ... tin snips? To snip tin? Is that allowed?
@C4CH3S
@C4CH3S 6 жыл бұрын
We will make it legal
@heroslippy6666
@heroslippy6666 6 жыл бұрын
Probably not.
@Just_Sara
@Just_Sara 6 жыл бұрын
It was so exciting, was it not?
@zzanzare
@zzanzare 6 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to know a head count - how many people here think tin snips are called tin snips because they are made from tin?
@OhSoUnicornly
@OhSoUnicornly 6 жыл бұрын
I did for a moment (mostly because I'd never really heard of them) until I saw another comment below and the wording made me realise they are intended /to/ snip tin :P
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 6 жыл бұрын
The silicone you used I am pretty sure isn't food grade. I could be completely wrong but it might be worth checking.
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes... It didnt even occur to me that it might not be food safe, I looked up the food safe stuff and by the ingredients it looks like the same thing so I'm probably alright, something to think about next time.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 6 жыл бұрын
+Cody'sLab It makes me happy that you didn't even think to use 'food grade'. Reminds me of the times I inhaled racing nitrous. Definitely not pharmaceutical quality. ; )
@TacticalKiwi4862
@TacticalKiwi4862 6 жыл бұрын
Now I mean no disrespect. But this is also the guy who drank cyanide to prove a point. That being said, I'm sure if he were to continue to do this more than just a proof of concept he would put more thought into doing it properly.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 6 жыл бұрын
+Now listen here Um, what?
@sirbillius
@sirbillius 6 жыл бұрын
Stop the Philosophical Zombies I love how you neglected to refer to his whole name.
@PlasmaChannel
@PlasmaChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Working with metal is really rewarding
@SuperWindows78
@SuperWindows78 3 жыл бұрын
What a second this isn’t the video “good day”
@MartiganzYT
@MartiganzYT 3 жыл бұрын
im not the only one who came here lol
@ilvol
@ilvol 3 жыл бұрын
actual link is /Rlf1ko-wDN4, it was changed on the 3rd screenshot
@PebsBeans
@PebsBeans 3 жыл бұрын
@@offsetmonkey5382 because it's fake, the guy behind the story screenshotted multiple uploads titled "The good day" over the years and made up this entire story
@onionsposter
@onionsposter 3 жыл бұрын
have we been tricked into thinking this is "the good day"
@Lexan_YT
@Lexan_YT 3 жыл бұрын
I think that whole thing is fake lol
@ineonfox4787
@ineonfox4787 3 жыл бұрын
damn, i came here for the same reason
@loling0tim
@loling0tim 6 жыл бұрын
its just awesome to see how simple it is to reduce the usage of plastic
@greenanubis
@greenanubis 6 жыл бұрын
Eh, on this scale it is. But i think those tin lids cost like a hundred times more than those plastic ones. Thats not really a solution.
@loling0tim
@loling0tim 6 жыл бұрын
of course it isn't but its a great alternative if there is going to be a shortage of oil at any time
@loling0tim
@loling0tim 6 жыл бұрын
additional to that it is a great opportunity to show that there are other ways than just using plastic until it runs out
@greenanubis
@greenanubis 6 жыл бұрын
Who knows. Stone age didnt end cause of shortage of rocks. I dont think "plastic age" will either.
@ronjones4069
@ronjones4069 6 жыл бұрын
Tin can be recycled zillions of times. Each time plastic is "recycled" it degrades and after only two or three recyclings it is good for basically nothing but fill for road gradings and the likes. Thinking plastic as being recyclable is an illusion.
@jodysteele5135
@jodysteele5135 6 жыл бұрын
What about irradiating the peaches instead of boiling them to sterilize the jars? I think that would produce the same shelf stability, but with a more "fresh" peach texture instead of a cooked one. Would definitely be interested in the differences between a traditionally canned item vs a vacuum chamber/irradiated one. Possibly a future experiment? :)
@PixlRainbow
@PixlRainbow 6 жыл бұрын
UV irradiation or Gamma?
@andreaaristokrates9516
@andreaaristokrates9516 6 жыл бұрын
@@PixlRainbow uv wouldn't penetrate that deep, at least I don't think it would, as it is easily scattered by even air and only damages our skin. Gamma is really hard to make or uncontrollable (unless you happen to have a fusion reactor), x rays should be possible though. But I still doubt it wouldn't poison the peaches, by destroying lots and lots of molecules in the "wrong" way.
@PixlRainbow
@PixlRainbow 6 жыл бұрын
@@andreaaristokrates9516 Cody *does* actually have radioisotope samples. I'm not sure if he has any that undergo gamma decay though.
@andreaaristokrates9516
@andreaaristokrates9516 6 жыл бұрын
I know, but even having a sample doesn't mean it's the elephants foot, able to make a jar sterile. Would a sample emit enough gamma, Cody would have to basically store it under 3 meters of water, lead or something else insane, because gamma doesn't really care which direction to exit the nucleus and it would burn him handling it. The thing is that the process has to be faster than the reproduction speed of the bacteria, easy with heat, all are killed at almost the same time. When to stop with radiation? To tell the answer is surprisingly hard, but it must depend on the radiation intensity distribution thoughout the jar, maybe even the minimum of that - in short: hard radioactivity. There is no non-industrial way to use gamma, at least any I can see and be sure no person will be harmed. Btw: bathing (figuratively or literally, an actual bath in saturated solution might be actually one way to go) the jar in radioactive material would most definitely contaminate it with radioactive dust, but I'd trust Cody on that one.
@guyfriedman295
@guyfriedman295 6 жыл бұрын
They were cooked before the caning anyway
@bexpi7100
@bexpi7100 6 жыл бұрын
I've reused regular canning lids just to keep the jar closed and not leaking, and I've even heard of people reusing lids for actual canning. Never had a jar leak with a reused lid on it.
@micahphilson
@micahphilson 6 жыл бұрын
My mom reuses alot of her lids, and stuff is still good 5 years later, so I don't know what the difference is here.
@daneekaplan4284
@daneekaplan4284 6 жыл бұрын
I too reuse them all the time just as a lid for a jar as long as I am not canning something. It never dawned on me to throw them out after one use.
@camerongraves8398
@camerongraves8398 6 жыл бұрын
I've myself re-used hundreds of lid to can from beets and beans to peaches jellys and jams just run them though the dish washer
@KarissaBoBissa
@KarissaBoBissa 6 жыл бұрын
It seems insane to me to throw them away after a single use.
@SublimatedIce
@SublimatedIce 6 жыл бұрын
I reuse my lids all the time; just inspect the seal before canning with them again. Never had one fail.
@immortanjoe9362
@immortanjoe9362 2 жыл бұрын
I work on an electrolytic tin plater line at a major steel company. Tin is still used commonly in the tinning industry. We also use chrome plating as well. Aerosol cans are also a major portion of our market. We use tin by the truckload on a daily basis.
@OGBeefStew
@OGBeefStew 6 жыл бұрын
how many cans can a tin can can if a tin can can can cans
@JohnLeePettimoreIII
@JohnLeePettimoreIII 6 жыл бұрын
42
@kuro13wolf
@kuro13wolf 6 жыл бұрын
Or for the brits how many tins can a tin tin tin if a tin tin can tin tins
@thhori2727
@thhori2727 6 жыл бұрын
Can Tintin cancan? Tintin can cancan.
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 6 жыл бұрын
Tin can = steel Cody's canning jar = tin
@mirceacrafter1362
@mirceacrafter1362 6 жыл бұрын
6
@BLAndrew575-
@BLAndrew575- 6 жыл бұрын
Cody is one of those extremely rare and unique individuals who has that insatiable curiosity we all lose as we transition to adulthood. A few such as Tesla, Hawking, Newton, and even Einstein. Sadly the world is in short supply of people like this and it is refreshing and truly motivation to see it still living in people today. Great job at rising up, doing your own thing, and not doing it for any other reason than it's fun and that you simply can do it. Thank you, truly. :)
@masterwork22
@masterwork22 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to get the beans tested for botulinum? Would be nice to see if the can did seal properly or not, without Cody getting sick ofcourse :).
@PixlRainbow
@PixlRainbow 6 жыл бұрын
He could get some samples and culture some bacteria on a petri dish, then check them under a microscope. Probably need to borrow his school equipment to do this tho.
@sp00fman1
@sp00fman1 6 жыл бұрын
Or feed it to a mouse for 3 days, see if its still alive after. much cheaper.
@masterwork22
@masterwork22 6 жыл бұрын
@@sp00fman1 XD, that would be pretty funny, but you could say goodbye to ad revenue though :(
@vezzosetto
@vezzosetto 6 жыл бұрын
I love your experiments with the hand-held X-ray spectrometer, there are so many materials out there that you can probe, so much fun!
@AcidSnuff
@AcidSnuff 6 жыл бұрын
A test for botulinum toxin on the beans would be amazing! And I really love your videos Cody!
@Chuckiele
@Chuckiele 6 жыл бұрын
and maybe even extracting it :)
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
Canning with Cody... what a wild ride. You're the only person I know who would even dare make their own lids.
@RyeOnHam
@RyeOnHam 6 жыл бұрын
The absolute first time I have EVER seen anybody using tin snips on tin.
@aeroscience9834
@aeroscience9834 5 жыл бұрын
RyeOnHam guess you haven’t watched his homemade tin can video
@alexwood020589
@alexwood020589 6 жыл бұрын
I work for Oxford Instruments Nano Analysis. We make something similar to your xRay spectrometer which mounts on a SEM. I always find it interesting when you use it in a video. Our detectors pick up the xRays which are given off when the electron beam strikes a sample in the sem, so we can do nanometer pixel images with a spectrum per pixel.
@Tobias-dp7xh
@Tobias-dp7xh 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Cody if videos about chemicals are not doing good atm on KZbin, you could maybe do a series where you fix up an old car on your farm. Maybe buy a second broken one and try to fix everything on your own. You will have to buy some parts new but I think it would be fun to watch and you would be able to make money from the videos.
@andreaaristokrates9516
@andreaaristokrates9516 6 жыл бұрын
Cody shouldn't bend the knee. We came for chemistry and KZbin has to accept that they get money from us watching ads before watching chemistry (and other cool stuff).
@o11o01
@o11o01 6 жыл бұрын
+Andreas Aristokrates In what world is working on old cars not cool?
@andreaaristokrates9516
@andreaaristokrates9516 6 жыл бұрын
It sure is cool, but if that were the only thing here, I don't think I would be staying for long. With the chemistry, mining, bees, trees and drones he is "living" my childhood dream. Fixing cars is just a neat thing adult me can watch sometimes. A neat thing, that wouldn't satisfy me as a theorist, I like to think about the matter and I couldn't do that with a car fixing video.
@lucioghosty5435
@lucioghosty5435 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to upload this finally!
@5cover
@5cover 3 жыл бұрын
So, looks like it finally uploaded!
@TrojanHorse1959
@TrojanHorse1959 6 жыл бұрын
Cool video Cody, thank you! I'm not sure it was really "tin" but at my grandparent's farm in the Ozarks, we used to drink well water from a "tin" cup, outside right at the well top over 50 years ago. It was the best tasting water I have ever drunk in my entire life. I'd give almost anything to be able to go back in time, see my grandparents again and have another drink of that cold, clear, delicious water from that tin cup!
@c.a.mcdivitt9722
@c.a.mcdivitt9722 6 жыл бұрын
As an old easteren-united-states hillbilly, I've never seen someone NOT reuse metal canning lids.
@dondiego124
@dondiego124 6 жыл бұрын
yeah a ton of times
@kfl611
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
They are not supposed to be reused in canning, as you can not guarantee your seal. Reuse to seal a jar you put on the shelf for dry goods, yes, used for something that has been opened and put back in the fridge, yes.
@bradboylan9092
@bradboylan9092 6 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! The first practical use for melting down soda cans.
@micahphilson
@micahphilson 6 жыл бұрын
But is using the vacuum chamber really that much faster if you'll still have to spend the next several hours cleaning peach juice out of it? ; )
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 жыл бұрын
Oh it didnt take that long...
@KhushiSharma-ci2kf
@KhushiSharma-ci2kf 6 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Your comment is appearing to be 16 hours ago???
@Axodus
@Axodus 6 жыл бұрын
+Khushi Sharma Patreon.
@crawlinkingsnakegaming9794
@crawlinkingsnakegaming9794 6 жыл бұрын
Me: Yeah, it's not not big of a mess Me @ 7:22 ohh there goes Cody's afternoon
@Axodus
@Axodus 6 жыл бұрын
It's honestly not that bad, You just wipe it all down with a paper towel, Easy.
@OkammakO
@OkammakO 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Cody! Next time try degassing your plaster mold in a vacuum chamber. It's what jewelers do to get really fine detail in their lost wax molds. I think that divot in the first one you made was a result of a bubble on the face of the mold holding on to some air and allowing it to expand under the heat. Great project in any case!
@drewlatta1979
@drewlatta1979 6 жыл бұрын
Learned a trick today - if you don't have a wire rack for canning use canning rings on the bottom of the pot. Thanks Cody!
@23urn16
@23urn16 6 жыл бұрын
What's your next "Art Project "!!
@masonp1314
@masonp1314 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Cody, could I recommend making zinc sulfide? It's a really cool glow in the dark pigment, and you'd probably be able to do something cool with it like melting it in your furnace
@mirceacrafter1362
@mirceacrafter1362 6 жыл бұрын
@@masonp1314 you need to add copper for it to glow
@3pxowner3
@3pxowner3 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe dear moon :)
@f.k.burnham8491
@f.k.burnham8491 6 жыл бұрын
Cody, I would suggest you might will likely have better results using Ultra-cal or Hydra-cal for making the molds. It has less shrinkage and is tougher than plaster. I use them quite often in making prosthetics that are a 1-5 off item, although I have friends who have had them last over 20 castings, with acceptable results. If you really want to get animal, try one of the new silicones that resist the temperature of liquid metals. I made my molds of the special silicone and potted the mold in Hydra-cal (because I ran out of Ultra-cal) to stop any deformation of the silicone from the weight of the metal being poured in. I have had good results. Your experiences may vary, close lid before striking, keep away from children under 18, etc.
@chlkrisz
@chlkrisz 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, this isn't "The good day"
@k3kr
@k3kr 4 ай бұрын
What do you mean by that? What's good day?
@chlkrisz
@chlkrisz 4 ай бұрын
@@k3kr After 3 years, I honestly have no idea why I wrote this
@nicolek4076
@nicolek4076 6 жыл бұрын
The British version of those jars, called Kilner Jars, have the same general arrangement of a rubber ring and a circular screw top, but have glass inserts in place of the plastic ones you've been replacing with tin.
@PaftDunk
@PaftDunk 6 жыл бұрын
How do normal canning gaskets hold up and what are they made of? We occasionally use some crazy gaskets/o-rings at work, like teflon encapsulated viton, along with more normal gaskets like buna-n and silicone... I've always wondered how durable they actually are To clarify: the gaskets I used at work are used for industrial processing, not canning.
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 жыл бұрын
I think the normal modern ones are latex or similar rubber but after heating the jar and cooling the rubber keeps its shape and thus cannot be reused without a good chance of leaking.
@micahphilson
@micahphilson 6 жыл бұрын
Well then I don't know what my mom uses for canning, because she reuses the lids every time, and stuff is still good after 5 years, so it's clearly not leaking at all.
@dandesloover5541
@dandesloover5541 6 жыл бұрын
@Micah Philson It's possible to reuse lids and the gummy rubber seal will reform under heat. The possibilities are that the rubber seal would have lost it's tackyness or shape, or more likely the lid itself will have deformed while processing. I've done it due to poor planning on my part and not having enough lids. I wouldn't recommend it because one out the ten failed to seal.
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting question, Pat. I wonder if he could use teflon string. It's commonly available at any hardware store for rebuilding the packing bushing on older style faucets. Before that they used a graphite type I think. Anyway since they're approved for drinking water I would think they'd be safe for cooking/canning use also.
@chetanbhandari1962
@chetanbhandari1962 6 жыл бұрын
I just love his videos. Make more stuff on precious metal refining.💚
@CYLITM
@CYLITM 3 жыл бұрын
Here from TheTekkitRealm. (btw this is not "the good day")
@rkxd1337
@rkxd1337 3 жыл бұрын
same
@crazycarl864
@crazycarl864 6 жыл бұрын
The chromium and manganese make sense in the commercial tin can, both of those are additives that would be useful. The manganese counteracts the sulfur impurity in the steel that causes it to be too brittle to form into sheets, and the chromium decreases how much metal will leach into the contents of the can.
@mieguistumas
@mieguistumas 6 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with those fully metal lids? You know, the ones that are not just the ring with a thing in the middle, but a solid metal lid (can't explain it any more clearly, sorry)
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing but they have the gasket on them and he is trying to make a totally reusable product.
@Chris_Cable
@Chris_Cable 6 жыл бұрын
They are single use generally.
@daneclark3161
@daneclark3161 6 жыл бұрын
On these types of lids, after they are sealed, you can remove the outer ring and use it on another jar, which helps reduce cost.
@roszymek
@roszymek 6 жыл бұрын
4:04 The way he said it brightened my day
@dijarqerimi6849
@dijarqerimi6849 6 жыл бұрын
Hey cody i love ur channel and ur vids are very educational pls keep it up i think u should have more subscribers
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 6 жыл бұрын
He's grown faster than most science channels if I recall correctly.
@spencert8125
@spencert8125 6 жыл бұрын
dude....he has 1.6 MILLION subs...
@bubbaplop808
@bubbaplop808 6 жыл бұрын
Spencer T still deserves more imho
@chiasatakahashi2814
@chiasatakahashi2814 6 жыл бұрын
Everything you do Cody is so entertaining to watch, though I'd love to see more of the farming videos again
@jonathanmarko182
@jonathanmarko182 6 жыл бұрын
Cody you should can another batch of peaches and test if tin makes it taste better. Also it would be interesting to see if other cans have the tin. Do an assortment of various canned food.
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 жыл бұрын
Already on it! :)
@CATASTEROID934
@CATASTEROID934 6 жыл бұрын
IIRC stannous citrate is the substance responsible for the weird taste produced by the interaction between fruit juice and toothpaste so I'd venture a guess and say that it's likely though how long it'd take for a detectable quantity of tin salts of the fruit acids to form is another question entirely.
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
most cans these days have a plastic inner liner. I was surprised to see metal of any kind once he opened that.
@hughbrackett343
@hughbrackett343 6 жыл бұрын
The inside of the olive cans I get looks like Tin.
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
correction, I meant most _fruit_ cans have plastic liners. But it seems to be a growing trend. Last can of Bush's baked beans I opened had a white plastic liner around the sides.
@kfl611
@kfl611 2 жыл бұрын
I like your eye color. They had back in the day 'glass' tattler type lids that used rubber seals, they also made zinc lids that used reusable rubber seals, and had zinc lids that had a non-removeable glass/porcelain insert on top so 'your food never touches any metal'. I think they all worked on the glass top - wire and bail canning jar principal. A reusable glass lid. I heard silicone rubbers can get moldy, where rubber ones do not.
@redclay4099
@redclay4099 6 жыл бұрын
Cody will you make a video where you put a vacuum chamber with a gauge inside of a pressurized chamber and try and measure the psi in the chamber using the difference in the vacuum
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 4 жыл бұрын
I saw in a toy locomotive video that a lot of parts are ladled into a metal mold and then a top is pressed onto it with a leaver. You can probably find many CNC-owning folks for hire to make you a handy mold for tin canning lids. If you have them machine it out of copper, it may even leave a trace residue that will kill germs, but not so much that it flavors the food.
@olik136
@olik136 6 жыл бұрын
the German version of those jars have a glass lid and sometimes some sort of metal clip to hold it shut
@drunkenhobo8020
@drunkenhobo8020 6 жыл бұрын
Same in the UK - the lid is glass with a rubber ring. They're called Kilner jars and used for pickling/preserves.
@alexcorona
@alexcorona 6 жыл бұрын
Drunken Hobo We also have those here in the US. They're not meant for this kind of stuff.
@starry_lis
@starry_lis 6 жыл бұрын
Weck jars, a classic in Poland.
@Peter-pu7bo
@Peter-pu7bo 3 жыл бұрын
Weck jars a just great. The lids are pushed down by spring clips so it's always the right "torque".
@WorldBarbie
@WorldBarbie 6 жыл бұрын
been loving your videos since day one! 1.6 million subs, I remember the happy you was with 200k lol
@Zoddca321
@Zoddca321 6 жыл бұрын
While you can do whatever you wanna do and this seems like a neat project, I'm left wondering: Why can't you just wash those plastic lids an reuse them? If the issue is that they're plastic, does it matter if you only use the ones you have anyway?
@heroslippy6666
@heroslippy6666 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure what kind of plastic they are made from, but in my experience plastic tends to absorb things. With reusable plastic water bottles if you put something else in besides water the taste will linger for a long time. I've washed some reusable plastic bottles dozens of times and the taste of non-water beverages still lingers.
@PixlRainbow
@PixlRainbow 6 жыл бұрын
@@heroslippy6666 generally the best plastic for use in food/beverage storage is polypropylene. PTFE would work too but it's a mite expensive.
@legiods8518
@legiods8518 6 жыл бұрын
Hero Slippy Adding some tea into the plastic bottles and leaving for some time will help get rid of the smell Not sure how long it takes tho
@Efferheim
@Efferheim 6 жыл бұрын
What he was saying is that the regular metal lids must be thrown away and that is a waste when you are using them for your lunch. The plastic lids are reusable time after time but the issue he has with them is that they are still plastic.
@Chuckiele
@Chuckiele 6 жыл бұрын
In most cases the plastic lids dont last more than one or two uses before they arent sealing anymore.
@topzozzle6319
@topzozzle6319 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd click on a video called 'Tin Canning Lids' and be so interested, thanks cody
@psygn0sis
@psygn0sis 6 жыл бұрын
CODY!!! Where are my good measuring cups. -Kanyon
@johnladuke6475
@johnladuke6475 4 жыл бұрын
Cody, don't worry about the lid blasting off. I lose at least one jar every year because I forget to turn the burner down from 10 to 7 once the jars are in the water. You just hear a noise like a balloon popping because the glass explodes before the lid gives out. The water and the canning pot contain all the shards and you're in no danger unless your hand is in the boiling water.
@grandadie
@grandadie 3 жыл бұрын
Is this `The good day`?
@functional200
@functional200 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would happen if the good day actually finished uploading with this video existing?
@Merivio
@Merivio 6 жыл бұрын
I have a question: Now the peaches are vaccuumed and bacteria removed, how long will the peaches be good for, in theory? Months? Years? Decades?
@gramursowanfaborden5820
@gramursowanfaborden5820 6 жыл бұрын
depends on your standards, they will be edible indefinitely in theory, if canned perfectly and kept in darkness, but after 8 years or so they won't exactly be "good". the more complex the contents of the can is, and the more ingredients it's made up of, the higher the potential that it can react with itself and go weird.
@Chuckiele
@Chuckiele 6 жыл бұрын
It might stop tasting good at some point and lose some of its nutritional value but as its sterilized and vacuumed, it wont get bad.
@770743b0
@770743b0 6 жыл бұрын
@cody: the Tin is used to prevent the steel from oxidizing in a low ph surrounding, as it prohibits a galvanic cell being formed. That is due to the higher electronegativity of the Sn with 1.96 in relation to Fe with 1.83 Pauling scale. So I suppose most oft the canned fruits come with a tinned can.
@spacejaga
@spacejaga 6 жыл бұрын
Canned pineapple looks pretty similar. Might be galvanized steel but the color darker and its shinny....
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 6 жыл бұрын
Pineapple is quite corrosive, so you should find a plastic coating on top of the metal. I might be wrong, but the cans I've seen have all been lined with something non-metallic. Interestingly, a number of manufacturers advise that the contents of a tin should be decanted into a specified type of container after opening, so maybe they're worried about the protective coating being damaged when the container s opened?
@gramursowanfaborden5820
@gramursowanfaborden5820 6 жыл бұрын
the warning about transferring to a non-metallic container is about oxidisation of the metal that makes up the can (steel or aluminium) and the metal oxides being picked up by the food.
@russkiyraketa2621
@russkiyraketa2621 6 жыл бұрын
Cody is the only one who can make a 16 min video of jarring peaches that I'd actually watch and enjoy 😂. Love your stuff
@williamclay190
@williamclay190 6 жыл бұрын
Umm, +Cody'sLab your logo is stuck on the inside. What's the point if you can't see it?
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see it when someone opens the sea. :-)
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 6 жыл бұрын
It's like the artist or craftsman who puts their name inside their creations. We have a coffee table with the maker's name, date of manufacture and the recipient's wedding date written between the two halves of the top surface. It could only be read if the table became broken apart somehow.
@FortuneFinders
@FortuneFinders 6 жыл бұрын
Those peaches look sooooo good...
@shinchanthebest
@shinchanthebest 3 жыл бұрын
I am not having *the good day*
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen the antique glass equivalent of the plastic lid you started with. That seems to me to be the ideal. Plastic is well plastic, glass is heat resistant, easy to clean and relatively non-reactive. Tin on the other hand...
@selkywaters
@selkywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Where do you get food grade tin in enough quantity for this?
@mattoe1
@mattoe1 6 жыл бұрын
you always come up with the craziest things from the most normal stuff. classic cody
@Acobolan
@Acobolan 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew vdV bungee gum could seal those lids
@WJDStudios
@WJDStudios 6 жыл бұрын
You should extract Iron from Iron rich cereal!
@Lilith-Rose
@Lilith-Rose 6 жыл бұрын
You can do that with a decent magnet, they actually just add metallic iron to cereals to "enrich" the iron content so if you grind the cereal to power you can pull out the metal with your magnet.
@exanite7821
@exanite7821 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just put the cereal in a bag of water and mush it around then use a magnet.
@heroslippy6666
@heroslippy6666 6 жыл бұрын
I have access to some decent magnets, I might try this in science club.
@sonbrother6167
@sonbrother6167 6 жыл бұрын
blender + enriched cereal + water + magnet = a little pile of iron particles.
@Rigel34085
@Rigel34085 6 жыл бұрын
Freakin love Cody’s Lab!!!
@butterflygroundhog
@butterflygroundhog 6 жыл бұрын
5:45 hippidy, hippidoo; your vacuum pump is now a didgeridoo!
@Michellesinfuego
@Michellesinfuego 6 жыл бұрын
“Oh spread peach juice everywhere” Bet that’s not the first time you said that
@chetanbhandari1962
@chetanbhandari1962 6 жыл бұрын
Why is he sealing them instead of eating now?
@cpypcy
@cpypcy 6 жыл бұрын
In Slovakia we always used reusable metal canning lids. You can just buy them in food markets.
@westernstudios2484
@westernstudios2484 6 жыл бұрын
What happened to your mine
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 жыл бұрын
The government intervened.
@Not.Your.Business
@Not.Your.Business 6 жыл бұрын
@@theCodyReeder really?! what reason did they have?
@milkhbox
@milkhbox 6 жыл бұрын
@@Not.Your.Business Its the government. Think of any excuse and go with that. They'll use any reason they can think of. I'll bet a dollar the real reason is dumber than any you can think of.
@426shelby426
@426shelby426 6 жыл бұрын
@@theCodyReeder whait what
@bigwolfe4191
@bigwolfe4191 6 жыл бұрын
Msha
@AJMansfield1
@AJMansfield1 6 жыл бұрын
Since the tin itself is fairly soft, would it be possible to make a direct seal between the tin and the glass with no gasket? This might be easier to accomplish with a thinner lid, but potentially you could cut out the rubber/plastic gaskets entirely. Or perhaps if tin doesn't work, perhaps add an indium ring to act as a gasket?
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 6 жыл бұрын
BTW, I recently learned the cheapest way to get ahold of tin is the local second hand/thrift stores. Some tin products are marked with the tin percentage on them. I picked up a 97% tin plate for a few bucks last week. It worked great for filling a new solder pot, and helped me clear out half of my boxes of junk. I'll be using the other half of that plate to make PCB tinning solution according to the tutorial on the "Nurd Rage" YT channel. Does anyone know a solid way to verify tin composition on unmarked objects? I get the idea that tin is probably the only metal that makes the crackling sound as it gets deformed but I'm not entirely sure. What else works for determining tin content on the fly in a thrift store setting? -Jake
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
That's great for you but bad news for this project as even that 3% left is probably lead. One would not want to can with that which is why Cody pointed out that the Tin he was using was food grade metal. You pay up for food grade anything.
@brocktechnology
@brocktechnology 6 жыл бұрын
My estimation would be if it's a plate and it's marked 97% tin that would make it pewter. If that's the case, it should be about 1% copper since that is about as much as will dissolve in tin. There's a few options for the other 2%, the cheap one being lead. I believe a test kit for ceramic glazes would tell you if it's lead but I've never tried that. If I remember correctly the key point for nerdrage's recipe was that lead was entirely absent.
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 6 жыл бұрын
@@brocktechnology Thanks for the reply. My understanding is that there are markings on some metal objects denoting the Tin content so that people know that it is does not contain lead. About half of the objects with a percentage marking also say "Elain," the French word for Tin. As far as the content of marked objects, I forget what the other ingredients are in this type of 'food grade' marking but I think it's antimony and copper for the other 3%. I was mostly looking for a way to mechanically determine if any random, unmarked metal object is tin by, bending, banging, scratching, juggling, dancing, etc ;)
@thermophile2106
@thermophile2106 6 жыл бұрын
Upcycle Electronics Just because is says tin, doesn’t mean it doesn’t have lead. However, if it was sold recently in the US, and is meant to hold food, then it is probably fine. So cups, plates, utensils and whatnot.
@chorthithian
@chorthithian 6 жыл бұрын
Cody could easily survive any apocalypse scenario the media has shown us.
@samsharma8621
@samsharma8621 6 жыл бұрын
I will try canning something someday somewhere 🤔🤗
@ZioStalin
@ZioStalin 6 жыл бұрын
Just because you can. I mean you can can. No, wait, not the dance... I mean "to can". No, not the bird... Screw it, nevermind, I'm out.
@dougcollinge6424
@dougcollinge6424 6 жыл бұрын
I made something much like these: aluminum disks with a groove that holds an o-ring against the jar rim. I use them to vacuum-pack coffee beans.
@MRGCProductions20996
@MRGCProductions20996 6 жыл бұрын
CODY!!!! PLEASE DO A VIDEO ABOUT A PLUNGER IN A VACUUM CHAMBER!!! WILL IT POP OFF? IS THE "VACUUM FORCE" ACTUALLY THE FORCE OF THE PRESSURE OF THE AIR AROUND IT, PLEASE LIKE SO CODY SEES THIS!!!
@gramursowanfaborden5820
@gramursowanfaborden5820 6 жыл бұрын
basically, yes. it won't pop, the air inside will gradually expand until the pressure inside is equal to the air around it, the plunger wouldn't even fall over.
@wolf1234link
@wolf1234link 6 жыл бұрын
The fun of experimenting aside, have you considered looking for Bernardin/Ball/Kerr branded lids? We have them in Canada and I'm fairly confident you can get at least one of those three brands in America. They're made for the type of lid and jar you seem to be using, are made of metal and can definitely be reused.
@alfoncejean8826
@alfoncejean8826 6 жыл бұрын
or you could just use a Le Parfais jars.... Those American style jars are a pain...
@alfoncejean8826
@alfoncejean8826 6 жыл бұрын
For those who dose not know a Le Parfaits jar is 100% glass on the inside (safe for the gasket) and the lid i's MADE reusable by default.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 6 жыл бұрын
Those are sweet. I remember collecting those jars as a kid to put specimens in. I suppose they are kind of expensive.
@alfoncejean8826
@alfoncejean8826 6 жыл бұрын
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 not really if you buy in bulk. And since the only consumables us the ruber seal those can get pretty cheap in the long run.
@tommihommi1
@tommihommi1 6 жыл бұрын
or the german Weck alternative for stuff where you use the whole glass in one go, they stack much better
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 6 жыл бұрын
+Alfonce Jean That sounds good. Thanks for the tip! I look forward to getting those again.
@sigmanation6957
@sigmanation6957 6 жыл бұрын
Absolute Mad Lad, working with molten metal and torches without any welding gloves.
@purplealice
@purplealice 6 жыл бұрын
Removing the air from the canning jar by using the vacuum chamber may pressurize the jar adequately, but it doesn't cook or heat the contents enough to sterilize the food, which was the original purpose of "canning" (I see that you've addressed that concern.). I'm also not convinced that silicon sealant from a tube is food-safe.
@turkeyboy1492
@turkeyboy1492 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Cody, long time viewer, just wanted to say thanks for the awesome consistent uploads. You never fail to amaze me! Could you do a video about extracting fructose from apples? I would love to see it be done.
@ishmaeltheadventurer4130
@ishmaeltheadventurer4130 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see Cody post, don't understand what the video's gonna be about, I click away.
@MGSLurmey
@MGSLurmey 6 жыл бұрын
Harsh.
@anttikettunen5112
@anttikettunen5112 6 жыл бұрын
Could also try to use the pre-made metal lids with the rubber/silicon gaskets... might work. An other option which I found works wonders for short term storage involves placing a layer of plastic wrap on a jar then placing the metal lid on top. The plastic wrap forms the seal with the metal lid keeping things in place. With that being said.. I would not use that method on anything requiring a month or more of time in storage. Works great for lunch stuff though. Edit: come to think of it, could also brush the bottoms of the used metal lids with beeswax and try to see if they still work like new.
@hikester2010
@hikester2010 6 жыл бұрын
those rubber canning gaskets need to be heated to form a seal
@brandonb9452
@brandonb9452 4 жыл бұрын
mike caretti the video contains evidence that they don’t always..
@pinsboy
@pinsboy 6 жыл бұрын
hell yeah Cody's back!
@doubledarefan
@doubledarefan 6 жыл бұрын
Canning lids cannot be reused? When did that become a thing?
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 6 жыл бұрын
Since they don't seal as good as the first time :P.
@keithjurena9319
@keithjurena9319 6 жыл бұрын
They bend when removing
@waswestkan
@waswestkan 6 жыл бұрын
Not reusing the l sealing lids has been a recommendation for decades, however that doesn't mean it was or is universally followed.
@trentnorred2557
@trentnorred2557 6 жыл бұрын
Something you could try making is an interior remote controlled windshield wiper for your vacuum chamber, for when liquid or something fogs the glass like with the peach juice
@AaronTheBlackDragon
@AaronTheBlackDragon 6 жыл бұрын
Since your homemade lids are not level lining them with silicon would help make a much better seal.
@cullenhutchison6528
@cullenhutchison6528 6 жыл бұрын
Florida Man is correct. Also, that's _silicone,_ not silicon.
@Schpoople
@Schpoople 6 жыл бұрын
I really didn’t think about that. Thanks for pointing that out for us more simple folk. Lol
@mme.veronica735
@mme.veronica735 6 жыл бұрын
@@cullenhutchison6528 Depends on where you are. It's like aluminum and aluminium
@tz8785
@tz8785 6 жыл бұрын
Not in the english language, there silicon is always the element and silicone is the polymer.
@redtukeguy8968
@redtukeguy8968 6 жыл бұрын
Looks very similar to my pantry. Gotta love home growing/canning
@clover_network
@clover_network 3 жыл бұрын
This is not the good day video xD
@IbbiAhmed
@IbbiAhmed 3 жыл бұрын
True xd
@schnaps1790
@schnaps1790 6 жыл бұрын
Canned pineapples are also stored in tin plated steel cans, you can even see the crystal microstructure from the tin etched out by the acid of the juice
@NikohSimonds
@NikohSimonds 6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to ask a good question. Hows life, are you doing well Cody?
@alexcorona
@alexcorona 6 жыл бұрын
Nikoh Simonds Join his Patreon and find out.
@francois853
@francois853 6 жыл бұрын
You're overtightening the ring on the rubber gasket and you can clearly hear the vacuum seal collapsing as you turn the ring at 09:08. You can also see the juice level drop as air flows in. The ring is only there to keep the gasket and lid in place while the seal forms.
@kuchenzwiebel7147
@kuchenzwiebel7147 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use tin as a lid because acids might attack the tin.
@MeleeTiger
@MeleeTiger 6 жыл бұрын
Also, this was some funny timing from my perspective, we found some older preserves in the basement the other day, some nice pickles goods from a few years back, nice and strong now.
@djenson
@djenson 6 жыл бұрын
HI patreons! nonpatron here!
@erdemmemisyazici3950
@erdemmemisyazici3950 6 жыл бұрын
Keep on being yourself, you have inspired me to get into chemistry as a total noob and I'm a programmer. Your channel is not unlike seeing a magician perform or the potions class in Harry Potter :) +5 This is how science should be taught, the maze of academia has a place for you my friend. Consider teaching!
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