Most Difficult Alternative Win Conditions in Commander | EDH | Magic the Gathering | Commander

[@lindleya]

Barren Glory? Did you mean "The Cheese Stands Alone"? :P

[@therealfriday13th]

Unset. Generally not legal.

[@lindleya]

@@therealfriday13th *whoosh*

[@lindleya]

@@therealfriday13th sorry, that must have been the sound of the joke going over your head. Yes, The Cheese Stands Alone is an un card. It also happens to be exactly the same as Barren Glory, just with the name change.

[@TheJocularJurist]

@@lindleya they are slightly different from each other...also tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-03-20-the-cheese/?cb=1583912387

[@ave_maria323]

Run both lol

[@princephantom1294]

"Mechanized production takes 7 turns to win" Myr battlesphere: "am I a joke to you?"

[@dylankelley9282]

Or any deck that spawns thopters

[@septianputra2496]

Mycosynth Lattice: basic artifact lands!

[@daisukeshiro1734]

Populate too

[@chadmrrsn]

@@septianputra2496 I do this alot

[@squrtinata]

I personally stick it to an artifact land. Then play smothering tithe

[@jo_ken]

Mitch: Chance Encounter is a hard win to pull off. Okaun and Zndrsplt: Are we a joke to you?

[@durge12]

its eve easier than that- frenetic efreet can flip coins as often as you want, so you just declare to the table that you activate the ability 10 million times and say its likely you'll flip 10 heads at some stage. so its a two card combo win, provided you can tutor both parts

[@PureInsanity025]

@@durge12 I came to say the same thing. A mate pulled a suprise win with this combo! It was great

[@lindleya]

Yeah, i have an Okaun/Zndrsplt edh deck, and chance encounter is probably the second most common wincon. the first is Flinging Okaun, and the 3rd is Mechanised Production

[@tjcofer7517]

@@durge12 yeah it is too bad they fixed it with the sliver version

[@jeremy89thom]

@@durge12 ah beat me to it lol. I was thinking the same thing. :D

[@gamekid531]

I actually play Mechanized Production in my Brudiclad deck, and was hoping to see him mentioned. I know he creates the tokens during the combat, but he can still get you a ton of the same name artifacts in one turn.

[@davidnutting16]

Same

[@Daomus]

I play Saheeli but have mechanized production in mine. It works good

[@andresflores1782]

I play saheeli and brudiclad. Both of them can easily pull it off.

[@mn6334]

Gonti's Aether Heart and Mechanized Production have ended most of the games I've won with my Brudiclad deck.

[@boubou3338]

Does Mycosynth Lattice and 8 island work ?

[@mrsplays9817]

Considering that I've won a game of Commander with Exodia... I think I'm pretty good at the alternate win conditions~

[@nickl9784]

How about mirror march for making chance encounter more viable? There’s the possibility for a lotta coin flips in one turn off ETBs

[@andy19934]

Always fun finding new ways to win the game! Regardless of how much effort is required to pull them off.

[@skirk248]

I won using the epic spells once and it felt amazing

[@kingfuzzy2]

That's me every deck I make ; )

[@CPZeit]

Mechanized Production: laughs in Thopter token army

[@ScorpioneOrzion]

make mechanized production an artifact, and enchant it with a copy of itself

[@CPZeit]

Hellkite Tyrant with Mycosynth Lattice is also disgusting

[@BlueGriffin20]

Neat, but you’d have to run a spell that conveys it and copies it.

[@CPZeit]

@@BlueGriffin20 on wich of the comments did you comment ?

[@BlueGriffin20]

@@CPZeit tijmen’s. It seem like too much work to convert the enchantment the find a way to copy it on to itself.

[@wintersakiller]

With mechanized production it’s super easy to win with servos or thopters or myrs, because the win does not specify that the artifact in question is the enchanted copy

[@ave_maria323]

It's a myr win lol

[@kurtreznor]

Did you mean to say 'super easy, barely an inconvenience'?

[@wintersakiller]

kurtreznor nah I was just talking common artifact token strategies

[@FutureOverYou]

@@kurtreznor winning with artifacts is tight!

[@ScorpioneOrzion]

Serra the Benevolent emblem can help a lot with Near-Death Experience, as long as you control a creature, you can't realy take more damage than 1 less than your total life

[@screwthisin]

Also Worship

[@pauljimerson8218]

@@screwthisin Was gonna say the same thing works great in darien king of kjeldor

[@MrKarato]

I have a deck called "Oops, All Win Conditions" that runs all of the win conditions, hence the name. Barren Glory is easily the most difficult. It might be easier if you have a deck built around it only. Chance Encounter is rough. I only won with it using Deep-Glow Skate with Mirror March. If you have a dedicated coin flip deck it should be fairly easy. Also Mechanized Production is piss easy (in 5 color). Dockside Extortionist and Smothering Tithe mean you already won by the time you play it. I didn't know that Celestial Convergence exists. I have to add that now. I loved this video, some more ways to make my silly deck video is great.

[@ave_maria323]

I'd love the deck list?

[@ohmygodtheykilledkennytheb7267]

@Hibekaze veteran duelist Yeah same

[@NaabZer]

For Chance Encouter, you can run " Frenetic Efreet", which lets you flip a coin for 0 mana, but dies if you fail. How it works is, you basically use the ability in response to using the ability like 100 times, then flip 100 coins, since the abilities are on the stack, it doesn't matter if you fail and the creature dies. Given you flip 100 coins, you're probably gonna end up with at least 10 wins.

[@keiharris332]

@@NaabZer that is brilliant

[@crimsontechie613]

Some of these wincons are almost as difficult as catching a vid at a normal time in Australia! Loved it!

[@gamerofknowledgeandmore426]

Mechanized production is my first and only alternate win con and I used to have a mono blue clue deck that can win with it.

[@QuietlyHere666]

I love alternate wincons, I've won before with mechanized production, barren glory, and happily ever after, hardest imo is definitely barren glory but it's really fun passing your turn with nothing on the board or in any players hands except this one enchantment chilling there

[@kingfuzzy2]

Me too my fave win is celestial convergence at 41 life.

[@nickkertzer3047]

Also, the simplest combo with barren glory is academy rector into Kaervek’s spite.

[@xindlepete8316]

One I noticed wasn't on your list is Mortal Combat. It's an enchantment for 2BB that says "At the beginning of your upkeep, if your graveyard contains twenty or more creatures, you win the game." I have a U/B Phenax Self-Mill commander deck, and Mortal Combat is 1/4 possible wincons for the deck (the other three being the obvious WotS Jace, LabMan, and Thassa's Oracle). Mortal Combat is PERFECT for a Phenax Self-Mill because your mill strategy is heavily creature based. My current decklist has 39 creatures, so being able to hit 20 is more than doable. I don't necessarily think it is a difficult alt win-con, but it certainly is a fun and oft-overlooked one. Figured it was worth sharing here, at the very least.

[@danielsalay3681]

I'm working on an alternate win deck though not one of these, I'm aiming for a niv-mizzet reborn maze's end deck. For the flavor win on top of the alternate win

[@LatinoJackson]

Hellkite Tyrant + Mycosynth Lattice = PROFIT

[@xindlepete8316]

came to say the same thing. I run both of these cards in my Daretti, Scrap Savant deck and it can be absolutely brutal. Also, Overloaded Vandalblast + Mycosynth Lattice can be just as bad, if not worse.

[@darkmaster824]

@@xindlepete8316 toss in kill switch and cackle for if they don't have a 1 mana answer you win.

[@xindlepete8316]

@@darkmaster824 I'm not normally a Stax player, but damn is that some dirty pool... I love it! I think the dirtiest thing I've done with Mycosynth Lattice (besides Vandalblast) is Karn, Silver Golem. "Hang on, I have something to do during your upkeep. All your lands are now artifacts. I'll spend 1 mana to have Karn turn that land into a 0/0 artifact creature, which now dies as a state-based action. And I'll do that again for each land you have. Go ahead and draw your card for turn." Passes to next player. "Unwinding Clock untaps all my artifacts during your untap step, which is everything thanks to Mycosynth Lattice. During your upkeep, I'll turn all your lands into 0/0 artifact creatures also. Go ahead and draw for turn now." Its a great way to close out a game when you don't otherwise have enough pressure or any win-cons on board. Most people don't want to keep playing when you are the only one with lands in play. Pretty much the only time I use land destruction is to finish off a game.

[@nik700]

I used to hate alternate wincons, kinda silly when think that the format itself is built on an alternate win condition (commander damage). Nowdays, Aproach of the Second Sun became one of the first cards that I add to my white decks

[@compleatcommander8923]

Long time fan of the channel! I absolutely love these freeform videos you're making, mistakes and all lol. You really should keep them this way. You come across very well speaking off the cuff, without fancy editing. Thanks for keeping us entertained and informed during this difficult time. Big shoutout to you from NYC!!

[@JB-sc3fr]

Mitch! Do you sleep?????? Your content is a great way to pass time. Thanks for giving us something to enjoy

[@ASwallie65]

I've been trying on and off to brew a breya artifact token deck, and this video reinspired me by the second entry. Turns out there's a lot of ways to generate a million thopters/treasures/stuff quickly

[@kaiser776_]

Mitch: "These are kind of hard to pull off" Me: "Oh I have the niche deck that these can go in!"

[@relaxingasmrnoise]

I won about 20 games with Happily Ever After in MTGA ~ Thanks for the recommendation on the other artifact creature: Sphinx of the Guildpact is a 7 drop, so your 4 drop recommend works a lot better. I'd create tokens and use Role Reversal to trade out jank until I hit the win condition in standard, but admittedly it's not a great deck.

[@gplthebeast]

You can use the new Ozolith from Ikoria to safely store filibuster counters by blinking Azor's Elocutors!

[@Snuske10006]

You could also play solemnity with "celestial convergence". Play that first and then play celestial. Win on the spot

[@davedussault8324]

Win on your next upkeep, at least. If you have the highest life total.

[@Snuske10006]

@@davedussault8324 Oh yea true it needs the upkeep trigger

[@kingfuzzy2]

Just give the permanents flash

[@TheStephenation]

In one of my favorite EDH games I've ever played, I stole a Hellkite Tyrant with Rubinia Soulsinger, then protected it and the player who owned it for several turns until I eventually set up a win with it.

[@richardmineall5428]

brudiclad, helmet of host, mechanized on a token brudiclad

[@zotmaster]

There's a much simpler Barren Glory plan if you're in Orzhov colors: have an Academy Rector out and cast Kaervek's Spite. It's still ugly, but you can do it on an end step since Spite is an Instant.

[@TheStephenation]

Glad to see people are pointing this one out. I'd argue that Kaervek's Spite actually makes Barren Glory one of the relatively easier alternate win cards to pull off. There are risks to mitigate, because you're always shields-down at some point, but you can make the window of opportunity for your opponents pretty small. And with Academy Rector, they don't necessarily see it coming.

[@zotmaster]

Academy Rector is one of those cards that when it hits the board, you should immediately assume that something absolutely horrible is coming. But nobody is going to expect Kaervek's Spite into Barren Glory!

[@joshmorgan9707]

One of my favorites is life gain with Felidar Sovereign and Test of Endurance!

[@Leivve]

This is why I love this channel. I never knew Axis of Mortality existed, but now I'm going to put it in my Zacama deck.

[@Heavymetalthunda3]

I’m honestly surprised you never mentioned Teferi’s protection as a good way to protect yourself until your next upkeep

[@phatkin]

I think Barren Glory could really be doable with some combination of phasing and a flicker effect (e.g. Worldgorger)

[@Kaaierd]

Hey Mitch! You mentioned Chance Encounter without mentioning Frenetic Efreet, that’s an instant win. Since you can put infinite abilities on the stack before letting the first one resolve. Love your channel, though! Awesome episode! Thanks.

[@Zaalbarjedi]

It's not instant win, because Chance Encounter triggers on upkeep. You still need to wait for it.

[@Kaaierd]

Bohdan Yarema Indeed! You’re right. I’m probably so used to playing it with Leyline of Anticipation and/or Vedalkan Orrery, that I forgot to mention that.

[@eruantien9932]

Winning with Barren Glory basically revolves around having Vedalkan Orrery. You can flash in the combo pieces at the end of the previous player's turn (yes, VOrrery is ridiculous and format warping).

[@jacobschiller4486]

Just realized that The Ozolith would be really useful for Azor's Elocutors.

[@BlueInkAlchemy]

Just FYI: Elocutors is pronounced "El-oh-cue-tours". 'Elocute' is a fancy word for 'speak', especially in the context of reading news or laws. Love that you're keeping the content going!

[@marceloquejinho]

A friend of mine plays Mechanized Production in his Becket Brass deck. Treasures are a big thing in the deck, he runs almost all the cards that create treasures. So when M.P. sticks to a treasure token it's better that someone has artifact/enchantment removal or It is done. Add to that Revel in Riches and that dragon that says "at the beggining of your upkeep If you Control 20 artifacts you win the game" and you have quite a fun deck

[@richardcarroll8779]

Thanks to this video, I've made a *semi* successful barren glory/near death experience deck. Barren glory is definitely the harder of the two, so I haven't won that way yet, but I'll keep trying!

[@rowrow_]

Yeah in my experience with having Mechanized Production, the easiest way to win is through treasure tokens. Works well with any deck running smothering tithe, dockside extortionist, etc

[@richardpitt8177]

Great video! The best way to get Happily Ever After is with Planewide Celebration. It gets you the five colour citizen token/creature, can gain you life and is the sorcery. It is difficult holding onto it though, as you say, without taking an extra turn. Having Kenrith himself as your commander can help as he can pump your life up. What about Liliana’s Contract? Can be tricky to get four demons out and keep them alive! Great card though regardless as it still draws you four cards regardless of what happens.

[@nolo2484]

At my local LGS (specifically on planeschase night) I once played someone who had an esper superfriends deck using Aminatou as the commander. He used tokens to fill out the color requirements for Happily Ever After, then teferi's protection'ed after making us all draw 40 cards and telling us to duke it out for second place

[@RntLnr]

A small detail about many of those "X counters = win" is that usually it says "put/remove a X counter. THEN you win the game". It's not WHEN you have X counters, so even if you proliferate and reach the amount required, you won't immediately win. You'll still have to trigger the condition first. Sure, it saves you a lot of trouble, but pay attention, many times you'll still have to wait a turn or trigger a strange ability.

[@mystikx2205]

I remember getting up to 18 artifacts with Hellkite Tyrant once, mainly because I had him equipped with Lightning Greaves to make him untouchable. It got to the point where I needed to use a stolen Conjurer's Closet to blink him so that I could remove the -1/-1 counters on him from Scorpion God to prevent him from being stolen with Necroskitter.

[@neverthetwelve6025]

Darksteel Reactor is even more difficult imho. I play Happily Ever After as my only win condition (beside Kenrith itself) in my Kenrith group hug deck. - More life than any opponent? {2}{W}: Target player gains 5 life. Check. - Card types on the battlefield or in your graveyard? {3}{U}: Target player draws a card. Eventually discard them. Check. - Colors? Lots of multicolor permanents, plus Sphinx of the Guildpact. Check.

[@GunbladeKnight]

I have it as an alternate wincon in my Bruna voltron deck.

[@AlexanderSzymanski]

From someone who owned a coin flip deck chance encounter can be super easy if you have a krarks thumb, or more importantly impulsive maneuvers. That will get you winning many flips per turn easily.

[@NewtDungeons]

I attached a mechanized production to a coat of arms in a pirate deck w/ a treasure sub theme once. That was some fun math.

[@Ravenlations]

The cool thing about mechanized production is that the artifact that enchants doesn't have to be the one you have 8 times.

[@ScorpioneOrzion]

8 treasures are enough :p

[@michielwitteveen6676]

@@ScorpioneOrzion yep or thopthers

[@professeurgideere5856]

For Mechanized production it also works with rite of doubling ? Kicked it makes 5 copies. That plus putting it on the ooze that copy something and pop a copy token at each turn, you essentially halves the time it takes.

[@samuelcoburn2904]

You got a shout out on command zone

[@lordofinsanity6615]

With Mechanized Production, you can actuall suprise people with a win with it. Because the card doesn't specify that you need 7 of the enchanted card, you can enchant something you only have 1 or 2 of, while having a enough thopters or treasure tokens, and you still win at upkeep because the effect checks for any artifact you have 7 of the same name

[@lowlyspy]

I have mechanized production in my Brudiclad deck and I love the out of nowhere wins with it. Having Brudiclad out to turn all my tokens into the same thing then flashing out mechanized production on the last guy's end step is always fun regardless of whether it resolves or not. Everyone freaks out and starts scrambling for a way to deal with it.

[@mor4261]

I almost forget that your real voice isnt the one i hear at 1.25 speed

[@chamnyne]

For Near-Death experience, you can run phyrexian unlife, solemnity and ajani's mantra. You'll have 0 life at some point and with solemnity you can't gain poison counters. then at the start of your upkeep, you layer ajani's mantra's trigger first so you gain one life and then Near-Death experience triggers.

[@jacobbriseno8687]

My all time favorite win con has been mechanized production on a sphere of resistance after blowing all artifacts and lands up, just "All right were just gonna sit here for 7 turns now"

[@a.killian6749]

Thank you for the best commander content.

[@richardcozzuol7452]

Mechanized production + rite of replication -Work, work... Jobs done

[@mushclone298]

Barren Glory works pretty great with Decree of Annihilation. Also, obvious best way to win with Barren Glory is Karn Liberated tick up twice on yourself (one gets Barren Glory the other gets an instant/sorcery), ultimate to restart the game with Barren Glory in play, and then just mulligan down to 0 cards in hand, and win on your "first" upkeep! It's also technically a turn 0 win. ;D

[@djelibaebi]

with chance encoutner, while not in red but in UR (which is also the colours of the coin flip commanders), you can use frenetic efreet to flip infinte coins as a two card combo which is probably the most reliable way to win with chance encounter aside from using both partners for a few turns.

[@nikos731]

My Zedruu deck wins often with Barren Glory+ Leave/Chance+Temporal Cascade (or Nahiri's Wrath)! Usually either set up at instant speed (with Vedalken Orray/Leyline of Anticipation), or on Sorcery speed with a Temporal Mastery.

[@ender3530]

In my artifact deck (Shaeli) I play Mechanized Production to clone Wurmcoil Engines and Soul of Phyrexian each turn. It's actually really good outside of the win condition in my opinion, I don't think there are other cloning effect on artifact that can activate again and again.

[@lukemcpherson8384]

Chance encounter's flavour text basically sums up all of these

[@skiefyre123]

Mechanized production is one of the easiest imo. Drop it on a treasure, food, thopter, etc. Throw down privileged position or something along those lines or counterspell silliness. In a thopter tribal deck its crazy. Also putting it on any darksteel item especially darksteel citadel provides a slow but reliable way to do it. Defending a enchantment and a indestructible land isn't to bad especially when you are getting a free extra land every turn. Alternatively throw it on a blightsteel colossus and win with the tokens (yes I know that's not the point of the video but imo the flexibility makes this card easier to put in the deck).

[@durge12]

you can win with chance encounter immediately if you use frenetic efreet- its a creature that flips a coin for its activated ability so you can activate it, hold priority, activate it again and rinse/repeat 10 million times and assume that the coin lands heads 10 times at some point during those 10 million. only trouble really is tutoring to hand both parts of the combo and not having either countered or destroyed

[@tornadojoe87]

Mechanized production with saprolings and that card that makes everything an artifact in addition to its type

[@adambandurak8913]

Thanks for all the content. I do like to attempt a Helix Pinnacle win every once in a while - it got reprinted in Mystery boxes.

[@0_jar704]

for the mechanized production you can play it when you have replication ring with all of them already replicated

[@CharlesB147]

For Barren Glory, try Lattice + Disk. Float 7, the Disk/Lattice blows everything up, play Barren Glory and One with Nothing off the six, win.

[@AferimCarabin]

I think that the best way to win with Barren Glory is having an Academy Rector on the battlefield and then casting Kaervek's Spite right before your turn on your last opponent's end step. You will discard your hand, sacrifice all permanents to make someone lose 5 life (totally worth it :D). But you also get to sacrifice the rector that can bring Barren Glory on the battlefield and win you the game. It's a very risky win-con but it's extremely rewarding when it happens. ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED

[@davidrice752]

Don't forget Frenetic Efreet with chance encounter, makes it really is as the efreet you can put as many flips on the stack.

[@minispiel19]

I AM SO EXCITED! I love alternative win cons and I haven’t heard of Mechanized Production, but now that I have, I have a commander deck it can go in and do well in. I must find it!

[@beastini2289]

Renounce definitely helps with Barren Glory. Lets you sack all permanents at instant speed. Then place One with Nothing on the stack. You can also find ways to flash in Barren Glory, then do Renounce.

[@EmilioPerezGlez]

The trick on Near Death Experience is to end the turn at 1 life casting Teferis' Protection. Safer with Grand Abolisher (or the like) in play.

[@Rasmussen.andrew363]

Planewide celebration helps so much with Happily ever after!

[@whatez9448]

Chance encounter is actually incredibly easy to do in a coin flip EDH deck with Frentic Sliver or Frentic Efreet.

[@Sean-up3pr]

I had a pretty awesome standard deck in the Arena beta with Mechanized Production enchanting a Powerstone Shard from dominaria. You wouldn't believe how fast that combo ramps you. Gives you all the mana you need to keep the enchantment safe until you win. Might not translate to EDH tho.

[@jongibson4766]

On your turn, if you cast Barren Glory and hold priority, then cast Teferi's Protection, can you stack the triggers on your upkeep to win because you're still phased out so your hand and permanents don't exist?

[@bballlover9]

I just pulled off a Helix Pinnacle in my mono green deck. Haven't done that one until today.

[@fredorlando8969]

I'm surprised Mitch didn't mention Hellkite Tyrant's interaction with Mycosynth Lattice as a way to get more artifacts in one attack.

[@ozanbingol2320]

I run Mechanized Production in my Admiral Beckett Brass - Pirate Tribal Deck. With all the Treasure tokens, it is basically a second Revel in Riches card in that deck and I won couple of games with it :)

[@RyeFields]

Mitch: Hellkite Tyrant is a hard win to pull off. Mycosynth Lattice: I'mma just stop you right there

[@DemonsForge]

Happily Ever Ever works as a great and sort of easy win con in a Super Friends deck. I've managed to pull it off in a standard singleton deck, so in commander with a significant card pool would potentially be much easier.

[@manuelito1233]

.... I came out sober after the basically drinking challenge. I'm kidding, digging your content mitch!

[@monkeyman-mm8qc]

Mechanized production + smothering tithe = win (having something like a dark steel inget so they have to use soild enchantment removal while you build your treasure tokens helps alot to)

[@YetiRawr]

Celestial Convergence doesn't have the wording "THEN if there are no counters...", so I guess the win trigger can happen anytime, right?

[@Giga-lemesh]

I have a happily ever after deck on arena, and I’ve actually managed to win a few games from the alternate win con. It’s not what you’d call a good deck, but it is fun

[@MrAskmannen]

Mechanized Production would work well on artifact lands or Darksteel ingot, but would lose out to enchantment removal, meaning a deck tring to win with it may want to pack some counterspells.

[@lordchungas8882]

As a mono red coin flip player, I can understand how hard this will be for someone to pull but off but if you happen to have a krarks thumb, and either a game of chaos or maybe a mirror march, so it isn’t too difficult but it’s a really odd and fun way to win a pod/tournie

[@hunterbowman98]

With the Celestial Congregation, if you run Orhzov and use Vampire Hexmage you can win in one turn cycle.

[@chrisjones3372]

Totally pulled off the Happily Ever After the other day which was pretty cool!

[@boubou3338]

Hey Mitch, for mechanized production, what about to play Mycosynth Lattice and have 8 same lands ?

[@portalmasterlp453]

Approach of the second sun is also quite hard to pull of in a commander game in my opinion. Sure, once you've cast it, you just have to draw 7 cards and cast it again, but like mitch said, 7 turns are a long time in commander

[@ComingUpDilhouse]

Hellkite plays really well with Mycosynth Lattice. And Krark's Thumb is great for any coin flip stuff.

[@TravirusTheKing]

Mitch: Mechanized productions takes 7 turns to win. (Let's also throw Hellkite Tyrant in here as well) Myr Incubator: Am I a joke to you? Another way to get Barren Glory to work is Karn Liberated though it would take a number of turns for that.

[@FullFatMayo1]

You can’t run Transguild Courier in a non 5 colour deck.

[@pojinx]

Yes you can, it's color identity is colourless

[@FullFatMayo1]

@@pojinx No it isnt't Here is the relevant rule: 903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card’s mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204).

[@bobby45825]

You sure? I'd assume his color identity, outside of being on the battlefield, is colorless.

[@FullFatMayo1]

Dr. Kuhn Switch Transguild Courier for Living End and it seems far more reasonable. Transguild can only go in a 5 colour deck.

[@pojinx]

@@FullFatMayo1 yep, you're right. Just looked it up. I initially thought that color identity was limited to Mana symbols in the text and cost.

[@PlutoDarknight]

I have a combo set up that casts Mind's Desire any amount of times to cast Release any amount of times to have everyone sacrifice everything on the board, then play Barren Glory with an empty hand and pass. Really though, I personally find it a lot more difficult to win with Azor's Elocutors than with Barren Glory. I even think that Near-Death Experience is more difficult. On the topic of Chance Encounter though, there is an old creature called Frenetic Efreet that allows you to flip infinite coins by itself due to its wording, which makes Frenetic Efreet and Chance Encounter a 2-card combo to win the game. For Happily Ever After, Planewide Celebration is a pretty good card since it gives you life as well as those 2/2 Citizen tokens which are all colors, just like the Transguild Courier.

[@foxfff123123]

What about helix pinnacle? Or is ramp enough to keep a target off your back?

[@isaoblack987]

Jokulhaups works fairly well with Barren Glory I find although you still have to figure a way to ditch your hand and make it through a turn cycle.

[@IAmVestigial]

[Mycosynth Lattice] [Hellkite Tyrant] ruin all of your relationships.

[@nzephier]

Thanks thats what i was gonna comment lol

[@ritterbrown5474]

Also, Hurkle's Recall if you want to ruin that same friendship at instant speed

[@magetathelion75]

i built happily ever after in standard, the second requirement is actually the easiest part. Land is a given, HEA is an enchantment, so you are already at 2, There are several artifact creatures that are all colors so that is 2 more. Then you just need 2 of instant, sorcery, planeswalker, or tribal. Build lockdown while you gather up and run revenge to double your life.