Throne of Eldraine w/ Reid Duke and Melissa DeTora | Game Knights 30 | Magic the Gathering Gameplay

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Show Notes:
Jimmy and Josh face some stiff competition on this episode!
Magic Pro (and soon-to-be Hall of Famer) Reid Duke joins the show, along with former pro and current Magic game designer Melissa DeTora, for an epic battle with the brand-new Brawl preconstructed decks from Throne of Eldraine.
It's Chulane vs Syr Gwyn vs Alela vs Korvold.
Who will emerge victorious?! ONLY ONE MAY STAND!!
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Where to find our guests online:
Reid Duke:
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Twitch: / reiderrabbit
Melissa DeTora
Twitter: @MelissaDeTora
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Throne of Eldraine Brawl Precon Decklists:
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Credits:
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Editors: Terry Robertson, Josh Murphy, Jake Boss
Assistant Editor: Ashlen Rose
Special GFX and FX: Sam Waldow
Director of Photography: Lauren Haroutunian
Sound Recording: Jim Funicelli
L2 Judge: Danny Simard
Set Design: Bonnie Vacevich
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[@TenTiggers]

Really looking forward to seeing Reid again in John Wick: Chapter 4

[@billowen3285]

TenTiggers ah I wasnt alone in seeing it haha

[@kaito17]

Hmm..he actually reminds me of the actor from the arrow TV show 🤔

[@greysonmiller9407]

He even has a similar voice

[@DaneLukeWagner]

Really though. Beard and voice

[@Yiazmat180]

If they don’t do a bit with him in a Reeves role that’s an opportunity missed.

[@timbusbee1483]

I haven't seen Reid this casual since he played Soul Sisters during Eldrazi Winter.

[@The_Ajna]

Tim Busbee my guy just big chillin

[@paulfrankenii7986]

Holy shit LMAO

[@Equiste97]

Reid the whole game : "I was really hoping to untap with that"

[@ctg4818]

Imagine making pro players play with ETB tapped lands lol

[@xxhellspawnedxx]

That's playing Jund in general, I find :P

[@ihatemyjob3708]

Fuck, I laughed. Am I the weird hairy dad of the playgroup now?

[@ihatemyjob3708]

THat was no a witty "Rebuttal" for this comment, but I do hope you have a great day nonetheless.

[@zacharyclifford8562]

You literally just described the commander format. Especially if you are a timmy like me and you play a lot of token decks

[@samverick]

Reid having the time of his life playing a multiplayer casual format is the most wholesome thing.

[@Rakescarr]

kk urs kiN

[@coomandox69]

exactly his hapiness is contagious

[@ilyaelric9539]

Just want to compliment card animation that gets better with every episode

[@jacobbradley7946]

I would love to see Reid play Commander with his own brew.

[@adipalihovici]

Unfortunately he has no interest in Commander and the only way they could convince him to even get on screen to play was playing with pre-made decks (since he didn't want to make a deck for a format he doesn't care for). :(

[@jacobbradley7946]

Andrei Palihovici I know, but maybe after this he might reconsider. He might not mind cEDH. Seems at least more fitting.

[@Diepvries11]

@@adipalihovici Plus Reid isn't the best innovater/deckbuilder. He is best at improving decks and playing to the meta.

[@shooorelse]

Andrei Palihovici you know this how?

[@phatbastard0alkaline]

@@shooorelse Yeah, I feel like its really weird how they wrote this, has Reid even said all of these things?

[@quarth9396]

That animation on shimmer dragon being baked into a pie was surprisingly inovative and funny

[@nivmiz0]

agree! btw היי מה קורה?

[@iniiloi6636]

@@nivmiz0 Im doing pretty well, thanks for asking tho!

[@iniiloi6636]

Google translates picture mode is very useful

[@nivmiz0]

Yup 😂

[@bintavi7034]

אני יודע עברית אבל לא טוב. השם שלי בנימין זאב.

[@andrewwilson895]

Can we get Keanu Reeves to play Reid Duke in the Magic: The Gathering movie

[@SomeYouTubeTraveler]

This is the first time I've ever seen Reid Duke and the first thing I thought during his introduction was, "...and I know kung-fu."

[@beans_n_egg9177]

@@michaelc.4724 Keanu Reeves, Planeswalker with a boardwipe ability that activates when someone kills his dog

[@MetaPixel7]

This is the best comment.

[@beans_n_egg9177]

@@MetaPixel7 which one haha

[@mattsmith457]

@@beans_n_egg9177 oof that's cringe

[@winstoningalls5491]

Josh, Melissa, and Reid: playing magic Jimmy: AcTiVate My FaiRiE FoRmAtiOn

[@michaelogara9056]

What did he even do with all those cards?

[@Alino-]

@@michaelogara9056 Use them as lands to activate more FAiRiE FOrMAtiOn

[@rossmiles5760]

I knew this would be in the comments somewhere 😂😂😂

[@sushimartyr6311]

I could be imagining this, but Melissa seemed a little disappointed he didn’t want to play more of the cards she helped design. xD

[@rjorgenson]

"Are we gonna see him knocked out this early in the game?" --- 40 minutes into video

[@KakashiFlash2]

Turn 28 sir XD

[@matthewdrown9122]

Yeah the acting was really bad

[@aaronhooker7588]

Me (after that comment)- looks like this is another 2 game episode.

[@dennisting7530]

JW is just so meh

[@zachary3367]

Jimmy gave it away when he said "make a big play card like Josh just did" before we actually saw the play. Kind of funny though

[@xLeechcraftx]

This is the awesome thing about the precons. The evenness in power level makes the games a wonderful back-and-forth. Awesome job designing them, Melissa.

[@joeljohnson4073]

they stalemated and board wiped the majority of the game KEKW

[@guilhermecastilhos3885]

The last time they played EDH without marketing restrains was the fan episode in March 2019, and before that it was the "Lords of Chaos/Shadowborn" episode in May 2018.

[@ianjuby8492]

I recently had this realization too ! the wizards sponsorship turns out to be more disappointing than promising.

[@amunra13]

So it’s an annual tradition?

[@guilhermecastilhos3885]

And I really do understand how important sponsorship can be. I just wonder about the frequency on which free deckbuilding is happening and how it can be frustrating to see names like Melissa, Reid, Ben Stark, Brian Kibler, and many others playing precons.

[@ajburgess6843]

I don't mind the constraints as long as they're CREATING the decks. I hate when they play precons and draft.

[@lineheart972]

What happened to extra turns?

[@daemonCaptrix]

Based on his voice alone, I suspect this "Reid Duke" is actually Keanu Reeves playing a deepfaked Reid Duke.

[@noalindqvist9826]

That might just be the case

[@doomofthedestiny8065]

Reids' death throws shows more emotion than any Keanu movie except the bill and teds....

[@enrif3099]

Josh "Vedalken Orrary" Lee Kwai: It's really annoying to play against all this possible instant speed trickery Me: ...

[@aceadam1828]

Same

[@jimparson6960]

Josh is literally one of the biggest hypocrites (honestly most avid magic players are lol), I was watching the episode with Graham and Kathleen from LRR (The episode Graham was running tribal bears), and Jimmy tried to strike a deal with Graham to leave his creature on the board for one turn and Josh immediately cut in with "You don't have to pressured into deals Graham"... When Josh is the biggest "politician" at the table. "Why are you attacking me?" "You shouldn't be doing that to me, do it to him" "I know you've already targeted me but that's stupid, you should target her" I love Game Knights for the guests and for Jimmy... JLK is the sort of person I'd punch if I was playing tabletop with him

[@WizzAardo]

@@jimparson6960 Those are 300 iq plays. Divide and conquer, right? :P

[@jimparson6960]

@@WizzAardo You're not wrong, just don't be a hypocrite is all

[@omologo95]

@@jimparson6960 politics require hypocrisy, sadly

[@the40inchtaco]

"Korvold, Frog-Cursed King". That got me.

[@robby6382]

I thought it was going to be Korvold, fae-cursed Frog

[@J.Griffin4]

Frog Cursed Bellamy

[@seanclark4071]

I really enjoyed how they edited korvold to say frog cursed king when he was frogified, that made my day

[@andreaparolini1755]

Sean Clark “ribbit” 🤣🤣🤣

[@clarkalarcon4057]

Clark is my name too

[@novrdd]

Dragon cursed King is cursed again into a frog. What a funny coincidence.

[@backlashX7]

Game knights inspired drinking game: take a shot every time someone says "this is really scary" in this video

[@TheBigJConYouTube]

As I read this, Jimmy started talking about something really scary

[@johnphipps4960]

or some type of statement "this makes me happy" it honestly feels like shilling for these products.

[@wyattwieber3036]

To be fair, at least in the groups I typically play in, this is how most games go

[@oddjob4212]

YES LET'S GET DRUNK!

[@Diepvries11]

I died doing this. Thanks...

[@jrandoskeet]

"This is very scary" Every reaction to everything.

[@orchidquack]

200th like

[@ubermusli]

JLK: "I will go to knight-teen" Most underrated pun of the game.

[@leemiller6977]

HAHAHAHA!!!!!! I said to myself, " Self, that JLK is a tard....it's NINEteen, not niteteen. "

[@dakotamcintire7419]

Chulaine's Tale: "Once upon a time...(chulaine dies) The End."

[@doccastro]

Lol

[@DHeroDarkMagicianGuy]

That deck can tell some wild ass stories.

[@Alikaoz]

I kinda hoped they would have built commander decks out of these instead of just the precons.

[@unimaginative_artist]

Daniel Amade shit was about to type this same thing 👍🏻 because idk it's a commander channel 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@dillongause7528]

Agreed

[@Kazz1187]

Especially when the commandzone bring on pros for gameplay, I wanna see the spice they can dish out

[@chukmitchell2739]

I actually think the commanders are pretty sweet and I would loved to see them play them in commander but instead we got this pile. Reid Duke is a pretty amazing deck builder and you hamstringed him by making him play a trash precon.

[@canismajor1186]

Gotta shill out.

[@Doofindork]

This game can be summed up by the phrase: "Okay, I'm going to activate my Faerie Formation."

[@guillaumelefebvre3114]

Reid was such a treat, hes an outstanding guest and a wholesome player. Im glad we got to see him.

[@allankatch2651]

I died when I realized they edited Korvold later in the game to say "Korvold, Frog-Cursed King" 😂

[@danielslack9114]

I only just realized that reading your comment.

[@canismajor1186]

Ribbit.

[@alexanderthealright]

"Sir Duke?" Stevie Wonder would like to have a word with you, Josh.

[@thelasttrueblade6684]

I think you mean Syr Duke

[@joaquinb3910]

This is the only reason I came comments

[@noodlepoodleoddle]

Melissa hard carried Josh to victory lol. This was such a crazy game.

[@rudysal1429]

He also basically trolled the game by keeping Reid alive earlier.

[@rolandschulz9799]

josh is such an a******

[@noahcarroll4944]

More like she made a kingmaker play. You'd think that someone from Wizards of the fucking Coast would be against kingmaking...

[@erichampton6492]

@@noahcarroll4944 It was a total gamble, not generic kingmaking. The odds of those two extra cards truly making the difference at that point were minimal at best. It was fun, and everyone had a good time. Chill your cringe.

[@KingOfAllGhouls]

I know its late but, game knights does a little bit of game fixing to make sure the mayches are enjoyable

[@mrInSaNiTyDuDe]

Reid: "Wake up Kid, we got a board to burn."

[@jasonthaler7328]

I really like the episodes with Melissa! She is such an amazing player and she seems like a cool person to hang out with :D Even though i really do not like brawl... But that is ok since it "looks" like commander and i do not have to play it and buy rotating format decks.

[@TheGeekAndTheCaveman]

"I baked you a pie" "Oh boy what flavor?" "Dragon Dragon Dragon" (slams pie into opponents face over and over)

[@xpug7690]

no. just no.

[@cameronlancaster7596]

I understood that reference

[@noahcarroll4944]

PIE FLAVOR

[@aggressivli]

The editing with all the effects and animations stuff is OFF THE CHARTS! Really well done, keep up this amazing work!

[@DarrickMaverick]

The precons actually look much more fun to play in multiplayer than the 1v1 we got in arena.

[@Frosthief]

To be fair they didn’t put enough removal in them

[@lexiss1870]

Yeah i agree these decks would be alot more fun multiplayer

[@Kattywagon29]

I agree 100%. I'm a singleton junky, so of course I played the brawl decks on arena, but I wasn't happy about it.

[@ong5589]

Yeah, Faerie vs Faerie took me 1 hour plus to play... everytime

[@EvanFarshadow]

Ugh i wanted to see full Commander decks of these. Maybe a future episode?

[@willemboele2079]

100% they won't.

[@bardoorble6045]

Never gunn happen

[@tommckeehan]

Reid is my favorite magic player, I was so excited when i saw him on your show. He also didn't disappoint and played jund!

[@butcherofblaviken252]

This channel has inspired me to start playing magic again and collecting the cards. Shows that ANYONE can play, including girls. I live in England, in a city where girls don’t really play card/board games so I always thought it was shameful and embarrassing to collect cards. But this channel helped me realise that it’s okay to be different when it comes to hobbies and gaming! Amazing channel, love watching you guys. Also, because you explain everything you’re doing, it makes the idea of playing a lot less intimidating and scary 👌🏻🤙🏻🐺

[@eduardop727]

Also, this must be how Modern players feel looking at standard players lol

[@LittleBoyBlu]

Nah, it's more like the way Legacy players feel looking at Standard and Modern players.

[@prestonroe268]

Pretty much yeah. *Standard Player sees a 6 drop: hmmm seems like a decent bomb. Definitely playable. *Modern Player sees a 6 drop: Why doesn't this say primeval titan? Get this garbage out of here.

[@ichiel1898]

its more like looking at your favourite modern streamer suddenly playing a bad standard challenger deck

[@novrdd]

@@ichiel1898 The decks are not that bad tho. For a deck that restricted to standard environment, the decks are decent. Not super powerful or anything, but definitely not bad. (Also, Melissa made them)

[@jonz2055]

I'm watching not for the format, or what decks are being played. I love how well edited, shot, and engaging this series is! Seems like a lot of hate in the comments, but I'm loving the content!

[@sharpchivers6658]

I see a lot of negative comments on this video and there are a couple of things I would like to address. First of, just a small reminder that their first "tie-in to the most recent set" legends game was episode 4 of GameKnight. And the Archennemy Bolas was episode 7. So the good old days lots of people are talking about aren't really a thing I feel. And if you mean still legends from recent sets but homebrewed on top of it, last one was two episodes ago. So it's pretty safe to say those are going to come back and continue. I understand the frustration because GK don't come out that often due to the pretty big production quality (I noticed a lot of improvement on feedback of effects and animation in this episode so it's something they are improving to this day). But at the same time I was making the observation that this show is really accessible to newcomers. GK was actually what got me into EDH in the first place and that was thanks to the editing and way they explain each move. And recently my little sister got her first precon edh deck and I was happy to have a gameknight episode that would showcase it so that she would learn how the deck works. That's why I really don't mind those types of videos because it shows that they will put the same amount of effort into a video for veteran edh players than in one for new players for which these brawl precons might be the first edh like experience they'll get before building a more refined edh deck. For me GameKnight also means accessible. And I have trouble getting into some other edh shows on youtube because I'm relatively new to the game (a bit more than a year) and don't know all the cards. And if I want someone to get a feel of what edh is I will point them to this channel because I know it is accessible. And for that, I'm glad they make videos on format that are less overwhelming to newcomers like Brawl is. It can be a gate opened to edh, but it's easier to pick up for someone who just started out thanks to the limited cardpool. So yeah "The sponsorship is ruining gameknight" I guess. But I know that if a friend, who never played magic, is interested in getting into it, I might tell them to start with a brawl precon, watch this video and then show them how they can upgrade the deck for edh. And that's important in my eyes too. So I'm thankful to the team. Because having their likable personality be a showcase for these makes it a pleasure even for me who enjoys more complicated homebrewed edh decks. And it gives me a good way to get friends or family into the game more easily. That's why I still loved this episode ^^

[@janjoeleht1242]

This is the single most entertaining game of commander I have witnessed. These decks are so intricately designed and, man, watching pros play is really something else.

[@RaikooIdea1]

"I'm hoping to find some food" same

[@tnntaronewsnetwork4514]

44:22 you’ll notice Jimmy was supposed to gain a life but they did the effect on Reed

[@funnynameforme4091]

Lol

[@KeinLetsPlay]

The animations and production value on this episode were amazing! Big kudos to whoever thought of cake effect on the dragon!

[@trumpetperson11]

Man I just want a home brew episode of really any format more than just so many precon videos. Edit - also I hate it when they all overreact to the power level of a precon card just appease wizards. (ie. some trash cards hits the table, Everyone: Whooooooah, what a strong card)

[@sliver667]

i agree, not very creative...

[@leonk9074]

Same here. Shake it up a lil

[@hchocolate14]

I mean when everyone is playing precons it shifts the power level do cards that are normally bad become pretty strong

[@RunningGriffin]

They removed the top comment which was complaining about the same thing... im lowkey pissed they remove criticism rather than respond to it

[@siener]

I dunno. I'd take this episode anytime over that overpowered and unfun shitshow with Amaz and MTGNerdGirl a while back.

[@narutolover1286]

Reid Duke is one of my faves!! I'm sad he didnt win. He spent the whole game rebuilding consistently and incredibly well but alas... flyers...

[@2099arashiko]

This was the better play thru of these decks Ive seen. I loved seeing how each one has its own killer combos and techniques. And seeing the decks played thru makes me want them more.

[@_GandalfTheGrey_]

Do you know the name of the deck Reid used? I searched these decks on Amazon but Reid’s is not named after his commander

[@TheNewOcMuse]

So I'm going to be echoing some of the same complaints from other people, but I want to start with what I really enjoyed about this episode. Melissa and Reid were two fantastic guests to have on the show, and I enjoy watching your banter as always. There's clearly a ton of effort put into making these episodes look great and heighten entertainment value, and I greatly appreciate that as a viewer. Game Knights has been consistently fun to watch for me, hence why I watched this entire episode. The only disappointing aspect of the episode for me was what a number of others have already said; the fact that you all played the Brawl precons instead of building EDH decks around them, or even just making a few small upgrades of your own. I want to be clear that this disappointment has nothing to do with my feelings of Brawl as a format, though I will admit I've never been it's biggest fan. It doesn't even have anything to do with the quality of the precons, because I think Melissa and WOTC did a great job building them and filling them with some fun new cards. It just feels like the show has primarily become an advertisement for new MTG products, with EDH being a lesser purpose that isn't even always a part of the episodes. If this is what needs to be done for the show to keep going, I'm not going try to blame y'all for that. I literally enjoy everything else about the episodes. Just my two cents.

[@101stumphead]

Interacting with your comment to hopefully attract more attention. I have similar feelings, I kept thinking they had made edh decks as well. If these sorts of ads are necessary, so be it, but to see how these two guests wpuld have brewed would have been fantastic

[@jessehale9273]

I get how much work they do on the podcast and episodes and I’m truly grateful but is it really hard to upload an extra turns at least once a month like they planned? Like come on, I honestly feel like one episode of extra turns a week would even be doable. It’s playing a card game, not a festival grade short film.

[@NopeNadda18]

Agreed. Please keep doing your wonderful work. However, I will never play brawl nor buy “Brawl” decks.

[@worldthroughabucket]

I find it mostly disappointing when they invite pro players to play precons. These are some of the best players in the world not just because of the skill in how they play, but also in how they BUILD their decks. Not letting us hear their deck building mentality is a real shame. Honestly just a waste

[@Tuturial464]

@@worldthroughabucket but then again. Commander is supposed to be a fun game.

[@elan8213]

Having people like Reid and Melissa play Brawl precons is like giving Michael Schumacher a go-kart to drive.

[@jqxok]

I disagree: I really enjoy seeing how good players make decisions with casual decks. Watching Reid Duke using Golgari Findbroker prioritize making a land drop, as just one example, was really instructive.

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@jqxok I mean, not saying it wouldn't be amazing to watch Schumacher pilot a go-kart and see what he can do with it, just that it would be a lot cooler to see the pro players use their experience to go wild with their decks. deck building is one of the main factors that define the better magic player after all.

[@therainbowshadow1960]

asdf: hi, i baked you a pie melissa: oh boy, what flavour duke: shimmering dragon

[@TehPwninator11]

rewatching this for the first time since it came out, and gosh this episode is a treat! PLEASE bring Reid back if he's interested, he was super entertaining and played amazingly well!

[@BlubbCover]

I might be the minority here but i really don't care what format they're playing. It's the interaction between the players and the production quality what differs game knights fron other random edh gameplayvideos imo. Love the show. Keep going!

[@dustin.irene001]

Thank you for bringing melissa back as a guest! Shes by far my favorite one youve had! Reid was a great guest on the show also!! Really amazing game you guys! Keep it up!!

[@3irc601]

"Sir Duke"? Does he have a name or is he good enough he just needs titles?

[@charleslegreatthegarbagemo7202]

Eric Schmalzried You have a name because you don’t know yourself, I don’t have a name because I know who I am. - That Black Cat Thing

[@taylorsamuelson934]

oh jimmy forgot to draw a card when he cast beanstalk giant lol

[@techwizsmith7963]

I think that was the third issue this game? All in all not bad, considering how long they played

[@Legaleagle0200]

Reid forgot to kill smothering tithe before it gets a million mana

[@Narabedla4]

What the others said, i'm somewhat sad extra turns didn't get continued it seems, it would have been great for something like that lineup with upgraded decks, but i assume the time commitment would be too insane :/

[@TheRPGShadow]

Extra Turns doesn't make them that filthy amount of sponsored moneeee, so why take an extra hour to play with so-called friends?

[@ikrena4701]

I mean, they filmed an episode with MaRo and a fan that supposed to come out pretty soon

[@Cosporcos-Q]

Is wizards making you play the precons out of the box? These game knights episodes feel like they're missing a core aspect of what makes these entertaining, you don't have the personal expression of the decks people make.

[@JesusGarcia-jh8zd]

10/10 icon mate

[@caiolucas55]

Yes, they are promoting the products

[@IraRadchuk]

Originally "Game Knights" was called "Out of the box" and for the first episodes they were playing exclusively Commander precons even when Wizards' sponsorship wasn't even on the horizon. I personally don't mind precon play in the slightest, in fact the Commander Anthology edition was the craziest and most fun of them all IMO.

[@jakeapplegate6642]

Ирина Радчук these aren’t even real commander decks though. No one actually plays brawl.

[@Jaquan018]

@@jakeapplegate6642 They are well built though. For what the limited pool of cards allowed Melissa and her team actually made pretty good, focused decks with a decent cardpool if you're looking for some value(as long as your LGS is not ripping you off)

[@traceshaffer7459]

love the detail on this channel, “frog cursed king”

[@qwormuli77]

The editing and animations just keep getting better. That "korvold, frog cursed king" at 1:07:44 is just precious.

[@N8Maple01]

Complete with flavor text. "Ribbit."

[@Kattywagon29]

Always kill Josh. That's my advice. He always finds a way out of sticky situations somehow. Love it!

[@oddjob4212]

He reminds me of a Sith Lord with how he manipulates the board,always playing the thoughtful player but with a hidden agenda of actually winning the game.

[@unbanrofellos5786]

@@oddjob4212 precisely!

[@cliponbowties4799]

You guys should do a game where you upgrade the precons from this or M19, or a game where everyone has $100 to buils their deck, and go crazy, because A) the brawl precons are generally terrible, and B) A lot of Josh Staples are really high price, like Vedalken Orrery, hovering around $20, and Rhystic Study, around $15-20. It might help players, such as myself, who have a really tight budget.

[@joshbutterfield9339]

BUMP! Game Knights- this could serve both masters, your audience and your sponsors!

[@stonergod2k27]

Thats a pretty smart idea tbh Except if i wanna make a horror deck thats gonna be tough

[@gautierb.9215]

16:24 "and that will bring me to knight-teen" Nice one Josh, nice one...

[@halerankin1752]

Thanks everyone for making this such an enjoyable presentation! It's great seeing you all having fun while showcasing the subtle nuances of combat mechanics and giving us insight into your strategies.

[@shinjitetora]

"Food is cool" - Reid Duke

[@nicolasrodriguezbadala1024]

I love how happy Reid is this whole game, I'd love to see him again in another episode of game knights or extra turns.

[@jamesrichardson5395]

this game was amazing! bravo!!!! so much fun to watch!! I'm so interested now to start playing brawl, so glad I found this channel last week! been loving watching all these old episodes to fill in free time!

[@aaroncheyne3054]

love the show, don't love the precons :(. homebrew next time? (edit) bring back Reid and let him bring his own deck, I'd love to see how he builds. besides that, it was kinda frustrating to watch Josh flounder for most of the episode. wouldn't have happened with a better built deck...

[@IraRadchuk]

I had the same experience with Knights brawl deck as Josh did, it's just terrible, so very A+B and regretfully super cluncky because of it - I constantly found myself creature-screwd and usless equipment-flooded! The Fairy deck was just the opposite, such an elegant and smooth-running engine, a true joy to pilot!

[@KennyViTran]

The fairy deck and knight decks have too many themes that they want to do but the fairy one is so much better at it imo. Like Syr Gwyn should probably be built voltron but to really make use of that triggered attack you want to be knight tribal??? However, if like she had whenever you cast an equipment you create a knight token and her last ability only worked on non-token knights then at least you have targets for all that equipment you are running. It's defo a cool card design but just kinda clunky.

[@joshuaboyd6253]

The deck just needs improvements for the other cards. The commander and concept itself is great

[@abouttime837]

“Someone who had a *big hand* -“ **shows Melissa ruffle shuffling one-handed**

[@Kazz1187]

time stamp please of the riffle shuffling :D

[@noky7379]

What time?

[@Sombres]

@@Kazz1187 it's at the very beginning, like 2 minutes in

[@Kazz1187]

Thank you Sombres! 2:07 haha

[@Speetlebeetle]

Ruffle, like the chip? I think you mean riffle.

[@VMSelvaggio]

JLK and JW, I just wanted to say that I appreciate the Game Knights podcasts and Game Knights Commander episodes so much! These episodes have been instrumental in helping me feel more educated and confident with things like understanding how different mechanics of the game work, and especially at what stages of a turn those effects would occur! Props to both of you for all of your hard work and helping the community be better at MTG!

[@TwicebakedJake]

I just got into MTG last week! I even did a video on why people should be getting magic in 2020. I can't wait to be a part of the community and play some commander games.

[@dylanlindsey3282]

"That will bring me to Knight-teen." Nice.

[@NoGloveNoLove32]

When you open up youtube and see the new Game Knights was uploaded a few seconds ago you know you're in for a good day

[@netahamiel4304]

But then its brawl

[@DreadPirate321]

@@netahamiel4304 still a entertaining episode to watch though

[@theADHDGames]

Could we get more free deck building in commander for the players?

[@andreaghiberti5464]

Wonderful episode😍 Just a small note: one the deepest part of magic is creating decks and discovering new and/or sweet interactions, isn't asking a professional player to play a preconstructed deck a bit restrictive? We can't see their/his full potential... Reid Duke is not the first, the same had happened in the past with Brian Kibler ... So sad we can't see what they can create...

[@midnightmonty]

Wizards- let's push brawl Also wizards- let's print barely any

[@lolimmune]

Also wizards: let's spend more on advertising than the game!

[@LeodSMW]

@@lolimmune That's common to be fair

[@danilooliveira6580]

I mean... to play brawl you only need a legendary creature, they only made those premade decks so people can try it without much worry about building brawl decks. but there are a lot of legendary creatures in standard right now

[@midnightmonty]

@@danilooliveira6580 except brawl is a wizards created format that was on deaths door, they didnt make these to let people try it. They made these so they can keep people interested and make money. Dont fool yourself

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@midnightmonty I don't really see what is your point. no one plays brawl because its pretty much made to promote standard to cmd players, but cmd is just more fun. those 4 decks are pretty much "look how much fun brawl can be! now imagine how much fun you can have building you own decks without needing to look 4293048 cards to build the perfect cmdr", they are not made for people to use as their definitive brawl decks, they were made to promote the format. if you want to play brawl you can build you own deck like everyone does, that is part of the fun they want to promote.

[@giovannifiorini5108]

Precons to pros AGAIN? Cmon guys, this is not bad obviously but there is soooo much wasted potential

[@BlasterJungle41]

I think something that a lot of people miss is that these pros are used to playing standard, not commander. So in that sense, playing brawl makes a little more sense for them since it's just that one step closer to what they know how to play the best.

[@fearanarchy]

Nope I agree 10,000%. However, if you design Brawl Precons, and you do not win.... (end of sentence went missing, still searching) I was more impressed with Reid ACTUALLY playing to win in the early game... kinda like a more purposeful decision. Just happy only some were playing showmanship, and others said "let's play Magic like I know what I am doing"

[@Tuturial464]

Well better than the game nights box, I mean what the odds they are going to play the next game nights box 2019

[@xilverous2733]

One of my favorite episodes. Reid is such a class act, and such a great player. 10/10 would watch Reid play commander/brawl again...

[@TheOnceAndOnceOnly]

I love you guys playing with the precons that we can get our hands on. It gives me new ways to look at the decks and different ideas for value engines in a deck that I thought only had one engine. Seeing all these strengths and weaknesses allows me to augment these decks without, you know, actually having to do the work.

[@sushimartyr6311]

Melissa seems so sincerely grateful every time someone chooses to give her the treasure from Smothering Tithe. It’s wonderful. Was also great to see her kicking ass as per usual (though I kinda feel bad, it felt like Josh never really repaid her for saving him from Reid early on- which I can understand on account of the “kicking ass” thing, but still). I think she might be my favorite returning guest, or at least among the top… three? (Picking a definitive favorite is pretty hard.) Great to see Reid Duke on the show! His online Level One Full Course got me to appreciate the nuances of little things like sequencing and playing in ways that force your opponents to make decisions going off as little information as possible (I know he does the pro tour thing too, but seriously, those articles got me off to a solid start in Magic, so I figure he deserves a shoutout for those too). And he seems like a really chill guy; it was cool seeing him able to relax and transition easily into a more casual four-player format. The beard surprised me, probably because I’m used to his beardless picture from the site.

[@trollvaderbr]

The new generals are amazing, but....the precon brawl deck...sucks I really disapointed

[@Kessig_IRL]

I agree that it would be best if you used decks that aren’t precons, but Reid was a great guest, and he added a lot. He was fun to watch and really got into the spirit of the game. So, long story short, build your own decks and invite Mr. Duke back.

[@DorianTheReaper]

Thanks so much for another great vid. You did nit only teach me how to play the game properly but you also helped me gain a lot of friends. You basically fixed my life.

[@Cleansweep38]

Good job Josh! So far, this has been the best game that I’ve seen you play! Not only did you save Reid’s life, you still just beat him in the end! Well played!

[@mathysgrapotte5283]

Honestly, I feel like the precons are underwhelming here. It's nice to have Melissa on the show since she designed the decks (and we can feel the powerlevel is up there on some of these cards), it's nice to see those decks going at each other. But the thing is, most of us (I guess) played those on MTGA (just not on a multiplayer format) so it feels like we didn't discover anything new with this episode ! Hopefully next time we can watch something truly surprising ;)

[@chubibi06]

well, we've discovered they'll most likely be funnier to play on a multiplayer brawl game than on Arena. The knight deck was frustrating to play with ; the Jund deck, inconsistent. The Bant deck suffered from its lack of lifelink... But that sweet esper deck, death has never been so graceful !!!

[@ultimateo621]

Reid Duke is even playing Jund in brawl!

[@yousy90]

Game Knights: Damn we are playing these cool Brawls decks with these cool cards! Me: those do look pretty cool! Maybe I'll buy one! WOTC: hahaha nah

[@irium_pls]

Just move to new zealand, we're in no shortage here, 20USD a pop lol

[@Hingelszveld]

They should be available at Walmart or Gamestop. I got two today for $21 USD.

[@droppathan]

Melissa is a gem and I love every single episode she is in. What a genuine and endearing person - what a great magic player, jfc.

[@57trees]

Magic, IRL: 40 minutes - 2 hours Magic Arena: 5 minutes - 15 minutes

[@charleslegreatthegarbagemo7202]

TheBestPortal so true unless you play 40 minutes to 2 hours of gaming.

[@monarchgupta2712]

Well if arena had multiplayer

[@jek__]

You're ignoring the fact that this is both commander and multiplayer, which are significantly more pertinent factors here. Its reasonable for a game of 60 card paper magic to time out at 20 minutes. Part of the reason irl magic is slower is because it takes time to physically move cards, most of the reason is because you're actually playing a game with friends and not just alone facing a faceless nobody with no human interaction at all. Seems pretty silly to prioritize efficiency in ability to complete games over value of individual game, and it's really rare for a person to legitimately value the game mechanics more than the social experience. You'll find that once you remove the playgroup, everyone stops playing eventually

[@andyanderson2669]

Whoa anyone else notice Jimmy's Spirited Away T-shirt?!?! That's awesome man!

[@bulldogsleeping7804]

The episodes keep getting better. Everyone looked like they had fun. Reid and Melissa are fantastic guests.

[@goodnamesweretakenkt]

Also, I just realized that they gave Reid a jund deck lol.

[@Infernofist666]

I have never been so happy to see the King of Jund playing Jund Commander

[@DragonmasterSK]

I love these decks they're really well designed and perfect for multiplayer

[@matthewgrilli4497]

Never clicked faster on a video! I just saw Duke and korvold in the thumbnail and i said "gosh, i have to see this video and i have to do it NOW!". Basically my favorite player playing my favorite format with my favorite deck archetype, what a dream 🤩

[@billowen3285]

Now I get being sponsored by Wizards probably changes things, but having really good players and preconstructed decks just feels bad

[@billowen3285]

XCodes too true :/

[@Jaquan018]

For their defense those are pretty well built precon decks. Sure Brawl isn't exactly good format but they still put a lot of effort into those. They are pretty consistent and tightly knit around their concepts with pretty darn good selection of cards.

[@cooperhollis6491]

Plus it's a way to make sure they are all on equal footing and at similar powered levels with their decks.

[@Jaquan018]

@@XCodes Here's where you generalize too much though by lumping Commander Precons and those Brawl Precons together. I made only the case for Brawl Precons and I stand by it. They are very well put together decks that I'd personally compare to challenger decks. You get a strong set of cards that work together like a well oiled machine. Sure there is a room for improvement as decks avoided adding the strongest cards from Eldraine as well as all the shocklands in their color. Heck even upgrading to commander there aren't that many cards you'd really need to cut from them for efficient and playable deck.

[@Jaquan018]

@@XCodes You'd still at least have a decent chance at FNMs. As of Brawl decks... They aren't really balanced against one another nor they were intended to be. They're just a solid decks on their own that are likely more than able to go against individual brews in their format. And consist of more than enough staples in other formats. Shame they were underprinted and without MSRP

[@wintercat1027]

You know im not even mad about the brawl decks but these really show how mediocre wizards makes the commander precons now

[@Egovinco98]

i just feel being forced to make a standard legal Precondtructed deck, for a format thats always compared to its eternal variant, will always make the deck feel weak. having all the brawl cards only available from the decks be standard legal means limiting the power level, imo,

[@wintercat1027]

@@Egovinco98 I mean more in terms of value but yes standard legal will limit the literal power

[@n0obz27]

Im just scared that the Brawl precons will be a repeated thing every set. Because that would mean that GK will probably be brawl. It's not brawl zone, so I hope it can stay as edh, or bring something like extra turns back for more edh gameplay. I understand how big the wotc sponsor is, but, again, Id rather this be edh, and not brawl and standard.

[@Tryo707]

Hey man how do you expect them to keep their funding without advertising the new WotC product aimed at commander players? I'm sure we'll have plenty of episodes just like what your used to, but they needed to this video, and I don't have any issues with that.

[@billowen3285]

-Sponsored by Wizards of the Coast

[@kwality1475]

Mike Neubauer shut up let them do what they want. Just enjoy the content.

[@n0obz27]

@@Tryo707 I know that the sponsorship is a huge thing for them, I think I mentioned that, and if I didn't I meant to. I still liked the episode, but I just feel like they are turning into wotc's lil puppet. I mean a few brawl eps is fine. It's new and cool. But I don't want this channel to just be brawl knights with the brawl zone podcast. My point is I just hope that if wotc continues to make the brawl precons, they don't tell GKs to only do that, as that's not really fair to them or us viewers.

[@Tryo707]

@@kwality1475 No need for that. Be civil or be gone.

[@chrisoakland]

You could tell Melissa was super excited to show off her work.

[@haqu123321]

Reid with a commander deck he made by himself at Game Knights would be awesome! He is fun to watch!

[@tomastomenosYT]

When did Mortify become a sorcery... twice!

[@DivinePenguin00]

This video was edited spectacularly, but I personally would rather see home-brewed decks. As much as I love Reid, I'm sure he could have borrowed a deck from someone. This pre-con video should be an extra episode that you guys put out, not a main commander video.

[@SOULFLYCAVALARA]

Anyone else re watching these older episodes in 2021? I've started over again from the beginnings back in Jimmy's kitchen lol