Magic has changed A LOT since 1994 | The Command Zone 642 | MTG EDH Magic Gathering

[@subscrypt9218]

There better be a game knights with them! What great friends.

[@maximilianmix5950]

just do 2 sessions one with only cards from their era and one with modern decks!

[@jorgelanuza]

That's a great idea! Maybe they can fly a 3rd friend from that playgroup for a full pod

[@okgut2033]

at best with only old cards that are 20 years or older :D

[@ChrisShepard8122]

They should totally do a Game Knights with these guys, Josh and Jimmy. 🎉🎉❤❤

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

Yes! I second that!

[@jamesdaley1674]

GAME KNIGHTS WITH GREG AND TY! Make it happen!!

[@AzyxA]

This! ^

[@kevro9110]

2 headed gaint first (josh and one vs jimmy + 1). then game knights

[@xogirlwonder]

JLK, you need to get the homies knighted! Let's gooooo!

[@ThePistolKiss]

with old school style decks, i have a buddy that stopped after fourth edition- he was shookethed when i explained how a planeswalker worked

[@obadijahparks]

No one quits magic; they just take a sabbatical.

[@Otako371]

"Spartans Never Die, Jorge."

[@corey8378]

As someone who played as a young one during Invasion and Odyssey blocks, only to return a few years ago, I can confirm

[@jinpilla7420]

back in the day, there was a phone number we could call when the rules were unclear & things got heated. some dude in Seattle would pick up the phone & decipher the situation.

[@regealpennyworth1]

If you had a phone available lol, wait to get home, call, go to school the next day like “I won that game!”

[@moedark4390]

thats cool. I stopped playing after cracking worthless packs of Homelands and Fallen Empires, back when you didnt get a set preview and you just assumed there were good cards in every set.....DENIED

[@joshshin6819]

back in the day we had fucking ANTE. fuck that rule!

[@peewee0224]

@@joshshin6819I’m so glad I never played with those rules 😂 I would have been crying if I lost.

[@canadianham]

I do remember that number. We were playing in Canada. Still remember my friend's mom losing it because we were calling international lmao

[@BoardGameHype]

Dude I LOVE these conversational episodes!

[@ClexYoshi]

This is the best episode of the Command Zone in a long time. REALLY fun.

[@chickennoodles4491]

I love how Josh looks so young, I still can’t believe he was playing magic in 1993 and is older than the Prof

[@johnlachman5121]

Never forget that he's older than Prof!

[@joshshin6819]

the wonders of 80s kids who didn't do drugs and shit to look healthier than our other generations before us ;). when i tell people at my LGS i played this game when it first came out they are like, "whaaaaa? how?" sure its a compliment but meh. :p

[@araphen57]

Asians don't raisin

[@Kjos_jax]

Prof isn't aging well and Josh is Prof looked like he was 50 when he was 30

[@mcgritty8842]

Yall crazy. Josh looks likes 50+ easily. First video I ever saw from here I thought “why does that old guy look kinda young?”

[@robertburns22]

The main idea I take from this video is: Josh traumatized these two good people at childhood and that didn't change to this day haha

[@xxyla]

honestly i think this episode fits really well with the current set being foundations. them not necessarily new players but seeing the guy's reactions to all the modern tech was really interesting

[@Dahajda]

I usually dont watch podcasts, but I was glued to the video the entire time.Its easy to get cynical about modern magic, but these types of epsiodes really brings you back to why you love this game and how much it means to you. What a great episode!

[@dylanthomas2393]

This is genuinely one of the command zones best episodes. Phenomenal work from everyone and such a cool format and approach to an episode.

[@franzgriffle6063]

This is a fantastic episode. These guys are now my two new favorite Magic player. I would love to watch a series of these two learning how to play command and watching their growth.. please bring them back lol

[@NoodleCollectors]

Exactly my thoughts! Would love to see an episode with these guys playjng.

[@emthreadgold]

This episode is on another level. I was enthralled the entire time!

[@ertai222]

I really liked this walk down memory lane.

[@Layacy]

As someone who has played magic off and on since the beginning (Fall of '93), never really played the Commander format (staying up-to-date on everything is intimidating and not having the friend group that is interested) but still loves reading and hearing about where the game goes, this video really hit. I have enjoyed all of the content on your channel over the years (even when I have to pause the video and think about what was said in order to understand), but I enjoyed seeing this video more than any other. Not just for the member berries, but to hear a prospective from a Magic streamer that is not often heard--those that love the game, but have fallen away from it. My first banger of a deck was a red/blue Kobold deck. Ah, the memories. Thanks for the video and all the content you provide, even for people like your friend guests that I shared much insight with.

[@HollowdTV]

I would totally try commander. you dont have to keep up with anything. build a deck you think sounds fun and go play. people play commanders from 2007 against Wolverine that just got printed 2 weeks ago. its a timeless format through and through.

[@LogoMotive11]

What a great idea for an episode, I really enjoyed this one. Magic's older days really intrigue me as someone who got in during Khans of Tarkir. I even find myself adding alot more older cards to my decks. It's gotta be a special feeling to sit with old friends that helped you get started in what is now your career. Very thankful you guys could get together again.

[@andrewpeli9019]

By the end of our time in college (2004), I had constructed the deck that was the boogieman at the table. It was mostly white with a splash of blue and it ran humility and dovescape as the core with thunderstaff and orim's prayer. The deck had only 4 creatures which was a playset of academy rectors. The whole deck just turned everything into 1/1s with no abilities, and it was designed to just out 1/1 the enemy by playing only things that got countered by dovescape. I bought a sol ring for the deck for $15.

[@Justin-lg1qb]

This episode is so wholesome and lore filled. We better be getting a game with this group

[@F1GHTstick]

Thank you for this, it’s a special episode to me in more ways than I can express! In a roundabout way (Space Marine II > Warhammer > RPGs) I’ve found my way back to Magic and am in the same boat as these 2 gentlemen. Played for a few years in the late ‘90s and haven’t touched it since. Was reminiscing about my friend’s 5-color “draw cards and die” deck which sounds like Josh had a version of. Due to cost I can’t rebuild what I had back then, but maybe that’s for the best to try something new. Don’t know if I’ll ever play again but I’m enjoying learning about the current state of the game and the enthusiasm shown here.

[@nathanharding5597]

This is one of my favorite videos you guys have ever made! It's so natural and fun to hear close friends talk about an era of magic less documented then others. I would love more of this and would love to have a white border/old school game knights with all of you!!

[@hainesforohio7028]

Omg. I have been looking for this video. I have not played Magic since the mid-1990's. I barely recognize the game today. A friend sent me this link. Thanks.

[@12jacobmar]

4:05 video starts

[@quentingarcia4247]

Thank you kind sir!

[@JC_Hope]

Bless!

[@allstatejake]

Really awesome episode that made me nostalgic and smile realizing that a group of kids in the south thousands of miles away from Oregon were having the same arguments, fun, and excitement that another group of kids were on the west coast. Being from the same generation as Josh and The Prof, these stories really made me remember things I thought I had forgotten. MTG in all of it's iterations still holds onto many of the feelings of a non-internet, in person society that forced socially inept people to be more social and develop their interpersonal skills. Great stories.

[@chickennoodles4491]

What a cool episode idea!!

[@joshuabarnett88]

"do you remember the mechanic banding?" *Eye-twitch has entered the chat*

[@ozzwich]

Loved this episode. Super nostalgic.

[@gabecastillo1634]

21:10 Gave me goosebumps too lol I started when innistrad came out and my first commander deck was arcades built for walls and meek stone blew my friends minds when it came into play. Bought a 7th edition foil version of meek stone about a year ago just for nostalgia reasons and it’s the best decision I’ve made.

[@redmandjg45]

I started with an Innistrad "event Deck" it was mono black vampires and I was hooked!

[@jturn314]

This was a truly beautiful episode Josh. Congratulations on being able to do this with some old friends; as you said, I wish we could all be so lucky.

[@timothyvandenberg2905]

Started with Chronicles in August 1995. Our big playgroup mistake was thinking that Colorless mana counted as *any* mana (like a Black Lotus). So we thought Urza-tron lands were amazing, with my Urza's Tower producing 3 of any color every turn if I had all 3 Urza lands out! Boy were we wrong!!!

[@paulboulanger00]

Ha, I believe my friends and I thought the same thing.

[@evilmonkey2184]

It was super nice hearing from them. Really good card sense, and an incredible love for the game and the memories it holds for them

[@commandcast]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@goldbergbrain]

Love that Bazaar got a shout-out. I also had that in the 90s and used those glass beads.

[@Pottering12]

This is so cool! So good to meet Josh’s old school mates and to hear about the experience of the early days of Magic.

[@ArthurAttwell]

I enjoyed this way, way more than I expected. What great friends; what Magic is all about.

[@Krellitlikeitis]

I never comment on YT videos. That was maybe the most fun magic podcast episode I’ve ever watched.

[@noahgreenhouse9913]

Josh, I never comment on these but you HAVE to get your friends on Game Knights!

[@underdogstory3111]

Thanks for sharing this conversation with us!

[@Glornie]

I really enjoyed this episode as one that started about the same time. thank you. I don't know if you disabled adds during the video, but it was really nice not being interrupted (it would have ruined the relaxed feel you got going.) the two rules we fought over was if banding creatures could share flying. looking at you Mesa Pegasus. the other one was how the stack worked. But we didn't have problems with interrupts though.

[@GIandringg]

This is one of the most fun magic videos I have ever watched, Magic with friends is fun to watch/talk about even when you yourself is not part of the group. Super cool to see the evolution of the decks and formats based on the playgroup

[@noise.s]

This was so wholesome

[@WagonmasterChip]

This episode was the best! Makes me nostalgic for my own high school magic days.

[@capntripps]

This is awesome. I love hearing the stories and struggles of learning to play from scratch. It takes me back. I was from Kansas and we didn't have access to cards, the couple of guys from my play group that was a couple of years older had to drive 4 hours to Colorado Springs to get cards. A few years later in 97, i moved to Eugene Oregon and was amazed that the mall had a shop that sold cards. Unfortunately I did not find a group to play with and didn't start playing again until 03. But fun stuff.

[@joshuabarnett88]

EVERYONE used those glass beads, eh? It was the meta when I started

[@grantmurdock7385]

I got a bunch in my starter, the Fourth Edition gift box. Dark blue and light blue, and most card shops seemed to stock those little plastic tubes of beads next to the dice.

[@Atmatan]

Most american households have more than one copy of mancala, for some reason, which is the game those beads are from and originally made for.

[@Loki-]

I first played early 00s and had those alongside the cards I was handed down. Funny.

[@brenp403]

With the little velvet drawstring bags haha. Maaan time flies

[@lifestyle936]

You had those too? Did you store them in one of the velvet dice bags? I still have mine. I store them in the hall of answers (right near shadowless Pikachu, the destroyer from firefly, and an x files postcard that says "the truth is out there)

[@juliangarcia745]

Man. What a trip down memory lane!! As someone who also played Magic back in the 90s and then stopped during college until earlier this year this really hit home!! Get these guys on Game Knights!!

[@davidhollinshead6995]

These guys should be on a GK or ET episode. Could be real fun

[@lifeofparc2510]

Amazing episode! Love old magic, wizards really needs to bring this back somehow, this feeling, the art on the cards! 90s fantasy was amazing

[@jacksonross753]

Josh, as a college student who has been playing magic since grade school this was a treat for you to go through your history with your friends. It brought back memories (even if they were a relatively shorter time ago) of casting spells on the pavement and buying cards with the limited money I had available to me as a 13 year old 😂. I hope I am able to become as successful in life as you all have and maybe reminisce on those memories in the future just as you are now. Thank you for the great episode!

[@jericknm]

We need a game knights with these guys

[@palorius]

Dude, this brings back so many memories. Early to mid '94 I started and...the fights we'd have with other players. People had no idea what was correct or even good ideas. When I started it was just around "the Dark" and I got some 'sage' advice not to buy Revised because the new 4th edition was 'waaay better'. Yeah...really regretted not getting all those power 9 and dual lands. Like I remember in 2005 you could still get all 9 for under 700 bucks (not that I was buying them, that was like my whole paycheck at the time). Duals were 10-20 bucks. When I lived in Alaska, Sheldon Menery was our judge and he ruled on one of my plays. I was pissing off people with Windfall/Library of Leng. We'd never play 1v1 so it was a great way to kill off the table. Good Times. Thanks for this vid.

[@emocelot]

almost died laughing at "that low!?" when he suggests ragavan is 3 mana

[@weystrom]

I'd love to see you guys play with those old decks!

[@arcanacoltic971]

This is my favorite episode. Ever. I really really hope that one day I get to sit down with my friends, look back and remember all the good times with magic and how I slowly found each of them, taught them how to play and how or own personal bubble developed. This was wonderful to watch.

[@DewiBinBags]

Love this video. We worry too much about business decisions and forget about our love for the game and what it gives us.

[@troyives424]

This one one of the most liked talk episode yet!!!! Loved the talk of the old cards/decks!!!! Fun to look back on those first memories of Mtg!

[@TB317]

This was a really great episode! Was so neat to get this insight into JLK past and also get some perspective from OG players. This game has spanned so much time, there's a real history.

[@arkenstone]

What a wonderful bunch of guys and those last couple of minutes of the Show brought back a lot of Memorys thinking about those times starting to Play as a Teen.

[@SnakeBite27]

Thank you so much for this episode. As a player coming back to the game from 2002, this episode really spoke to me.

[@z.scott.porter]

I started playing in '95 and this video hit home. Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. Great video!

[@commandcast]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@peglegleg4146]

This was a great episode. I think what's most fun even as a someone much newer to the game, is that I've had those "oh heck yeah" moments either for myself or my friends when something cool happens. "The deck does it's thing" is how I describe why magic is fun. That's what made me into the game. Great podcast!

[@gsmastermike]

I really love hearing these old stories about learning how to play and how early interactions worked learning the rules without a good internet presence to explain things. I started playing/learning magic in 2001 with the 7th edition starter set that came with a CD to teach games. It came with a foil thorn elemental that I thought was the sickest card ever because it was shiny. This episode really reminds me of why I loved learning the game and how powerful you felt putting cards together to beat your friends deck.

[@Kjos_jax]

Wow these guys are so cool and it's great to see how much history they have with Josh. I remember channel one and playing magic at school and teachers not liking it at all

[@franciscozamorano6807]

Loved this episode. I think is so great to “update” people who haven’t touched the game in years and see that they still get that bright-eyed look when they see a cool card or notice a powerful interaction.

[@stuggit1]

I loved this episode ! So fun to hear you all talk about fond memories together

[@booyaimnotfirst]

This has to be my favorite command zone episode so far It was a complete nostalgia trip and so fun to watch how relatable this memories are to my own experience through the years of being a magic player

[@jamesthefront2246]

Josh, thank you for episode. It was so nostalgic. Brought back so memories of playing game after game after game using my first deck, a Golgari Elves and Spiders deck against my friend’s Boros human and Angels. So much fun.

[@11shoe]

This episode was awesome! I would love to see more laid back candid conversations like this!

[@blackmagicmetal]

I love this. I often talk to my current friends about how magic used to be and often feel like the old guy (though we're all in the same age group). Really cool walk down memory lane. I was shocked how he remembered banding!!

[@DerekDuff]

Liked the Joe Morelock reference - he is still impacting students but now as a Superintendent.

[@AvatarKira]

I started playing in 2004. Man that Meekstone deck sounds so dope!

[@jamesmorris9839]

I loved this episode! I'm not an OG player, I started playing in guilds of ravnica, my "meekstone moment" was pulling a high alert and making a deck that cared about high toughness creatures. It was really cool to see that every new player kind of has that moment

[@jaimerivera2382]

This super takes me back. I started playing in 94 when some of my friends introduced me to the game. We didn't know how *anything* worked - we didn't have mana burn, or mana emptying at the end of the turn. We would save up turn after turn for a huge fireball and keep track with a notepad! Once we got into high school, we had our own little section of the cafeteria where all the Magic nerds would play. A lot of us would skip 5th period so we could play these big, epic multiplayer matches during lunch time.

[@matthewgalambus3533]

Played literally dozens of card games growing up, and I can still remember many of the jank stuff we did as kids as well as many of the effects of those old cards. Thank you for the nostalgia this brought.

[@alacyman]

Loved this episode. In 1996 I saw a group of students playing magic in the library. One of them gave me one of his spare cards. It was a soldevi golem. Been playing magic off an on ever since

[@danielgordon8719]

This is such an accurate description of 1995 Magic. I had almost identical experiences with “I can play Black Vise with Winter Orb!” and the other examples. Very fun and nostalgic episode.

[@conspiracycracker5254]

` The Lion's Eye Diamond that Josh marked incidentally for proxies are surely worth much more than they would have been before at this point. I have just started finding and grabbing signed cards that are cheaper than I could have imagined them going for. More for me at nothing less than a steal, Thanks everyone!. I could see Joshes signed LED going for many thousands easily. This man is a pillar of MTG society and discourse.

[@MrUhhuhyeah]

This episode was great to hear persepectives from players from back in the day. And the last segment of the video was such a fun segment, I’d love to see more of them either playing or seeing new cards.

[@t-smithereens]

Such a wholesome episode

[@aHairyBaboon]

More of this style of podcast please. The formatting was great, the topics were fun, and gives me hope for when i ultimately take my sabbatical from magic i can come back to it in some fashion.

[@expression883]

AWESOME episode, loved hearing everyone's Magic "origin story." Very similar to mine and some of my friends who also started in the early-mid 90s and after like 25-30 years... a bunch of us are back - and with some friends new to Magic. It's crazy, never thought I'd play again after having to sell my cards so long ago, but... Commander precons and games and all the cool sets the past couple years (the D&D ones, LotR, etc.) pulled us back in. Good times!

[@RUSTIC_SLAP19]

The vibe of this video was great. Nostalgia through the roof!

[@frizbehobit9919]

I haven't watched much content lately, but this is an amazing episode.

[@jokke6265]

I still play with my old play group from 1996 :). MTG is one of the thing that has keept us connected

[@DragonmasterSK]

I started to play Magic when I was graduating from college. I was 25. I fell enamored by it. Yu-Gi-Oh was my childhood/teenage/young adult card game and I still love it so much. But Magic became my favourite. I have a healthy playgroup. We buy boxes and Bundles to crack open and we just trade whatever the other ones need (if we don't absolutely need it in our deck) but overall it's been an awesome experience and I really hope we remain long time friends for a long time. We've played many formats, but I'd say EDH is the main core and I have to thank you Josh & Jimmy and of course Rachel and everyone from Command Zone for being an incredible part of my journey as a magic player. I've learnt so much and had a blast watching your shows and podcasts. This one felt really close to home so thank you for inviting your friends, Josh. It was an amazing episode and I hope some day I'm able to do something similar with my own buddies

[@thriftypsgr]

This is such an awesome episode

[@KevinMacDonald-v4o]

I grew up and learned how to play magic in the same city as JLK?! Love to see it❤️

[@maxbodifee3263]

This was very nice to see. I first started in 98 or 99 and this brings back memories. After a few years I took a 15 yr break and came back when I discovered commander. Old cards still spark more emotion than the new ones and I love to go through old collections

[@AzyxA]

As someone who started playing Dec '93 who still plays today, it was a joy to watch your friends talk about all of your experiences playing in the 90's. Also entertaining to see them evaluate new cards and the cost of old cards 😂

[@vipergtsrgt1]

This episode is everything I've been thinking about for the past several months. I've just been getting back into MTG after not playing since about 2000. It's wild how little we knew and just kind of made up as we went along. "Chromium is a 7/7, so it must be great, right?" I just played my first mini-tournament on Arena with my old 4th grade play group last weekend, It was so much fun.

[@gaetanlechoux2770]

That was an amazing idea, really fun to discover the first years of magic

[@XerexB]

so much nostalgia

[@mynameisdanimal]

This was incredibly fun. As a player who learned around the cafeteria tables in the early 90s this really hit all of the chords

[@Jarrik73]

This is an amazing bit of nostalgia. I grew up in eastern Oregon, so dedicated game stores were not a thing. Word of mouth that a bookstore or game store that mostly sold rpg stuff had it meant road trip. I got into the game summer of 93, iirc, just out of high school. Listening to this gives me serious reminiscence of my early days.

[@matthewbenoit3098]

Really great episode. Nice to hear about magic of the past and how strategies were developed and formed by players without the aid of the interwebs.

[@typethe1316]

This really inspires me to create an old school M:tG cube.

[@rrichards84]

The card shop was called the Bullpen! You took me back 30 years!!!

[@DachsinDad]

22:13 Royal Assassin, Dingus Egg Armageddon, Elves, Sea Singer, Day of the Dragons, etc super fun magic back then

[@lqmayock1]

What a beautiful and wholesome episode! Truly reminded me of me and my childhood friends growing up. However we were doing shit like jackass, but I would love an episode with these guys and Josh and Jimmy. Love u guys

[@thriftypsgr]

1:32:56 my favorite line in this is now, “ I don’t think you could do anything broken” while staring at kennerith

[@bigtonka34]

This was enjoyable. Great Cast as always. Thank you for the company as I finished working tonight before Thanksgiving.

[@brothergrimm9656]

Favorite early MTG memories... 1) Absolutely dominating a tournament with a white weenie deck (Army of Allah and jihad making those white knights and other small white creatures just run through opponents). 2) Placing second in a state championship by designing a deck solely to beat the dominant deck archetype at the time (which was Suicide Black). Using Oath of druids, Sneak Attack, Gaia's Blessing, Altar of Dementia and high impact creatures like Crater Hellion (to wipe their board), Shivan Dragon and tramplers like Ball Lightnings/Force of Nature for a massive hits and sacs to mill. Completely destroyed the dozens of Suicide Black decks I faced that day. Literally built the deck in the back seat of my buddies car during the 90 minute ride to the tourney.