The Craziest Broken Rear Spring Mount EVER: Super Unsafe 1979 Corvette

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TheCorvetteBen

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I have bought a few C3s, I have worked on a few, and I have never in my life seen the rear spring issue that this 1979 Corvette has. ALL FOUR MOUNTING BOLTS are broken off that hold the rear spring to the differential. The center pin in broken and banana shaped, essentially making the rear spring free to move all around. Can I get it out without much trouble?
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@nick011182
@nick011182 4 жыл бұрын
Good thing you caught that! I would’ve tried clamping the leaf spring with two C clamps on either side of the differential to mimic the bolts that were missing.
@bradwhite6491
@bradwhite6491 4 жыл бұрын
Come on Ben claw hammers are for carpenters! 😂
@dadsvespa
@dadsvespa 4 жыл бұрын
I'll bet the garage that worked on this car, gives a monthly prize to the mechanic who has the least amount of parts left over after doing a job.
@gordonmcmillan883
@gordonmcmillan883 4 жыл бұрын
That's not my idea of a full-floating rear end ...
@gs3504
@gs3504 4 жыл бұрын
I got a little nervous when you stuck your hand in there on that last bolt. Glad it all worked out OK.
@DYFEA
@DYFEA 4 жыл бұрын
good gracious!!!!! thank goodness you caught the problem
@macsloan58
@macsloan58 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how careful you are. Some people wouldn’t think of possible consequences. You are always a few steps ahead of any potential bad crap that could happen. Good job.
@paulc4213
@paulc4213 2 жыл бұрын
Bought a 71 conv back in 1996 from up in Boston, drove it home to Maryland. I didn't know much about corvettes then. Few months later rear wheel bearing when out one night, towed home and it sat for a couple years, doing research and exchanged the differential for a rebuilt 3:55 made that auto trans cherp the tires, rebuilt the trailing arms, heavy duty rear cover one bolt was broke, reused the glass spring, new shocks, bushings etc. 120,000 was on the odometer and title, probably original rear suspension except spring. Oh also heavy duty strut rods. Neighborhood buddy with much more mechanical skills than me, helped me tear it down and reassemble. Oh also installed all new brakes then too, stainless steel lines, rotors, calipers, stainless hoses, manual master cylinder, proportion valve. I was fortunate that the frame, birdcage and body was in very decent shape, again not knowing about frame issues then.
@arnoldj.rimmer812
@arnoldj.rimmer812 4 жыл бұрын
If you are going to go to the trouble of removing the differential rear cover, I would suggest replacing it with a heavy duty cover. The heavy duty cover has more meat where the spring bolts attach. It is not uncommon to see cracks where the bolts attach on the stock units. Also, I would replace the steel spring with a fibreglass replacement. They are available in different spring rates from soft to very firm, makes a huge improvement in both ride and handling, not to mention that the fibreglass spring is much lighter, 8 lbs vs 40 lbs for the steel spring. The fibreglass springs last almost indefinitely compared to the steel springs which have a tendency to fatigue over time, that's one of the reasons why you sometimes see C3 Vettes cruising down the road with the rear wheels canted in at the top.
@jimh.5286
@jimh.5286 4 жыл бұрын
I put a heavy duty diff. cover on my '73, along with a fiberglass spring. The fiberglass spring has less movement drag than a multi-leaf steel spring, so the car was a little bouncy-bouncy (even with new stock shocks). I solved that with a couple Koni adjustable shocks. Now very smooth and compliant. Love it.
@gruberstein
@gruberstein 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimh.5286 I was gonna say KYB gas adjust shocks worked wonders on my 71 with fiberglass spring. Much nicer ride.
@MrRocky1405
@MrRocky1405 4 жыл бұрын
Well done with easy to follow narrative - as usual! 8-)
@resurrectionmotors2421
@resurrectionmotors2421 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Ben, enjoyed today's video and Tech tips, hope you and yours are doing well with this virus me and my family a good prayer for you God bless
@tcwascawy1
@tcwascawy1 4 жыл бұрын
Criminies! Beautiful work, the "right of Spring"!
@321CatboxWA
@321CatboxWA 4 жыл бұрын
@5:36 "And see what it looks like when we get it down " already it's unhappy . @8:07 now it's very sad. Thanks for sharing . well done . nice camera.
@rogerlee3941
@rogerlee3941 4 жыл бұрын
Man! I was holding my breath on that one!
@LyndseyMacPherson
@LyndseyMacPherson 4 жыл бұрын
I guess I didn't realise leaf springs were still being used that late in US car manufacture. What a fun peek into this fix. Can't wait to see more!
@georgemattar1182
@georgemattar1182 4 жыл бұрын
I have owned two C3 cars and worked on numerous others. Thus guy had to deaf. No way he couldn't hear that. Great videos Ben.
@morgandollar7146
@morgandollar7146 Жыл бұрын
About 20 years ago the leaf spring on my 1975 Corvette let go. I drove it two miles to a gas station and left a gouge in the road. I replaced it with a fiberglass one. Still have the car.
@trickyricky12147
@trickyricky12147 4 жыл бұрын
At least it doesn't look bad cosmetic wise. Job well done!
@geoffquinn3109
@geoffquinn3109 4 жыл бұрын
Another great vid corvette.
@stevediduck9963
@stevediduck9963 4 жыл бұрын
Ben,, don't know who is to blame but thank god you caught this before someone got killed or severely injured. I held my breath while you got those leafs out without getting hurt yourself. I just can't believe the owner could let something go that long. Unbelievable.
@arizonaguy7574
@arizonaguy7574 4 жыл бұрын
7:10 The multi use hammer... It can build a house, it can fix your car and attachments are coming to make Julienne fries!! :)
@larryh9933
@larryh9933 4 жыл бұрын
you need to make more videos on this car repair
@jonlowing7907
@jonlowing7907 4 жыл бұрын
That's the first time I've seen a rear suspension setup like that on a modern-ish vehicle. I've seen front springs oriented similarly on vintage trucks and tractors but not at the rear. I would have liked to see the repair outcome.
@winstonwong3326
@winstonwong3326 4 жыл бұрын
Drill a small pilot hole for EZ outs for the deep bolts. Use a hand rotary cutter and grind a 3/32” wide slot and impact wrench the flush broken studs out.
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 4 жыл бұрын
Not a great setup. Good job someone found it before the spring sprang.
@saxongreen78
@saxongreen78 4 жыл бұрын
A good shop woulda refused to work on it until the owner approved the spring repair...scary stuff.
@michaelstratton6701
@michaelstratton6701 3 жыл бұрын
That's one of the first things I fixed on my c3, although mine wasn't that severe
@pfdrtom
@pfdrtom 4 жыл бұрын
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@tomaasen2657
@tomaasen2657 2 ай бұрын
I also exprienced that the bolts were broken on the rear spring. The car had scratched the ground with the body (I didn't see it when I bought the car). Check for more damages on your car.
@JerkingwithJesus
@JerkingwithJesus Жыл бұрын
ive gotten out deeper snapped off bolts that go into the chassis. but i am Canadian and we deal with a whole lot hard to deal with problems than any American person has ever dealt with when it comes to cars and problems like this
@aboutmyfathersbusiness8324
@aboutmyfathersbusiness8324 4 жыл бұрын
The stock differential cover lower tabs tend to break off as well. I thought that was what happened. I would suggest to the owner a "heavy duty" aftermarket cover. Put one on 25 years ago after my tabs snapped and have never looked back. P.S. dont forget the limited slip additive haha
@angelonicassio7131
@angelonicassio7131 3 жыл бұрын
Cool.
@CravingClassics
@CravingClassics 4 жыл бұрын
That broken center bolt is probably why it stayed in place as long as it did. Lucky guy
@lenscap8925
@lenscap8925 4 жыл бұрын
Couple of big "C" clamps would have kept the leaves together, there are some rebuild leaf spring videos on YT to watch...stay safe
@jayyoung5423
@jayyoung5423 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my first c3 at 21, a 1968 converitable. I learned that car top to bottom. Replaced my own rear spring, strut rods, bushings and so on ...this after hours of research....what happened here was a hack with no clue, sold a car a risked someone's life, unbelievable.
@michealrobinson
@michealrobinson 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's scary! A piece of that thing could have flown off and into someone's windshield!
@e.z.hernandez6378
@e.z.hernandez6378 3 жыл бұрын
Center drill with a cobalt or carbide drillbit then a really good easy out.
@yasser_khouader
@yasser_khouader 3 жыл бұрын
this reminds of that sound " time to do some sketchy shit and hope i can get away with it"
@Beandiptheredneck
@Beandiptheredneck 4 жыл бұрын
That’s just insane. How did no one look at that and think that doesn’t look right
@donhenderson5100
@donhenderson5100 4 жыл бұрын
Good find and great info. Yes, I would consider upgrade to 1pc spring. Is this a '79?
@jimh.5286
@jimh.5286 4 жыл бұрын
On my C3 the bolts weren't broken or missing, but the mounting ears were broken off the differential cover. Prob. solved with a new, beefed-up cover.
@dldrc1871
@dldrc1871 3 жыл бұрын
My 80 had all the bolts broken off too
@mikeypl1957
@mikeypl1957 4 жыл бұрын
YIKES!
@daviddeming5179
@daviddeming5179 4 жыл бұрын
Ben.! Can you do a vid on installing a Sidepipe Exhaust system on C3's? I have a 79 l82 4speed car with long tube hooker headers and need to know what the right system would be to install.
@FloridaClay
@FloridaClay 4 жыл бұрын
Scary!
@jeromestcharles7680
@jeromestcharles7680 Жыл бұрын
I found 4 bolts to the strut rods bracket on the differential gone. Dang
@paulc4213
@paulc4213 2 жыл бұрын
Heavy duty rear cover and fiberglass spring
@318overwatch9
@318overwatch9 3 жыл бұрын
And that ladies and gentlemen, is what doing burnouts that have alot of wheel hop will do. Yikes, that was disaster just poised to happen.
@johnmilner7603
@johnmilner7603 4 жыл бұрын
I would have used a bunch of C clamps to hold all the leafs together or even chains with nuts and bolts.
@MM-fq3ys
@MM-fq3ys 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Well now that you’re into it, might as well do it all! No sense in putting any of that back together without changing the rear diff oil, gaskets, r&r those broken bolts or replace the rear diff cover, rebuild the rear spring, put it back in place with all the rear bolts, ubolts, etc and replace all the rear rubber on the links and do a rear camber alignment. Hoorah!
@winstonwong3326
@winstonwong3326 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Marks need to lube the rear wheel joints too
@conradkenneth5216
@conradkenneth5216 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the international space station!
@MechamMachoTA
@MechamMachoTA 4 жыл бұрын
Exact thing happened to my 78 Vette on the road. The bolts all sheared off. Had to tow it home. How common is that and what is the cause? I was lucky and able to get all 4 of the broken bolt remains out by using a reverse drill bit. They came out very easy.
@lancewilcox3944
@lancewilcox3944 Жыл бұрын
How do you recommend torquing down the 4 spring bolts on a 79.thanks
@AncientAudiophile
@AncientAudiophile 4 жыл бұрын
My guess is that these bolts were tightened at the last brake/suspension repair. Too much torque and the bolts stretched and finally broke. It is very easy to overtorque the bolts with pneumatic tools.
@thx113868
@thx113868 4 жыл бұрын
Are you in a new garage? Nice lift.
@johnwaddell4107
@johnwaddell4107 3 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion but would two u bolts bolted around the spring have been safer?
@OutontheRanchwithDrLee-xb4lo
@OutontheRanchwithDrLee-xb4lo 4 жыл бұрын
Ben.... How necessary is the jack/brace under the nose? Do you do that every time? I must have been lucky; never done that...
@TheCorvetteBen
@TheCorvetteBen 4 жыл бұрын
Better safe than sorry, especially with the differential coming out
@OutontheRanchwithDrLee-xb4lo
@OutontheRanchwithDrLee-xb4lo 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheCorvetteBen Gotcha! Thanks....is there any way to tack-weld a rod onto the broken bolts in the diff, and unscrew them from below? Or are they broken off too short?
@TheCorvetteBen
@TheCorvetteBen 4 жыл бұрын
They are broken off inside the hole, meaning you can't weld anything to them
@OutontheRanchwithDrLee-xb4lo
@OutontheRanchwithDrLee-xb4lo 4 жыл бұрын
TheCorvetteBen oh well, at least it will be good content for your channel ! Lol
@aboutmyfathersbusiness8324
@aboutmyfathersbusiness8324 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would take alot to flip that car on its nose...
@zeth15943
@zeth15943 4 жыл бұрын
Weld a nut to the broken bolt works every time
@TheCorvetteBen
@TheCorvetteBen 4 жыл бұрын
Hard to do when the bolts are recessed into the holes
@philipstreechon4523
@philipstreechon4523 4 жыл бұрын
Hi do they have motor vehicle inspection in Texas
@rontex1234
@rontex1234 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit surprised you felt the need to jack up the second side since all the pressure was off the spring by that time,,,,,,
@TheCorvetteBen
@TheCorvetteBen 4 жыл бұрын
You are right but it was habit really
@davebutler2776
@davebutler2776 4 жыл бұрын
C3 needs the fiberglass spring rides and handles better
@howardscott7521
@howardscott7521 4 жыл бұрын
At least the ears are still on the diff. I've seen a few broken ones. Not fun...
@jeffreyhaynes5774
@jeffreyhaynes5774 3 жыл бұрын
Chain the leaf spring to the rear end.
@stereolababy
@stereolababy 4 жыл бұрын
ben needs a ratcheting wrench
@junkorbust9498
@junkorbust9498 4 жыл бұрын
Easier and cheaper to visit the parts department out back.
@WanderingSeneca
@WanderingSeneca 2 жыл бұрын
The big question is who put new exhaust on that thing and didn't notice the jacket up spring?
@stuartclarke6079
@stuartclarke6079 4 жыл бұрын
Try easy out ( some type of tool that freads into the broken bolt)
@benfrowd4123
@benfrowd4123 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, really enjoy your videos, I'm trying to buy a vett to bring to Australia. I'm currently on a thin budget because I'm only 22 but that's growing slowing every day. I was trying to get one off Hotmusclecars.com is this website known for scams, cause after a while I realise the vett was listed multiple times in different states, cheers. Keep up the good videos
@roadwarrior1450
@roadwarrior1450 4 жыл бұрын
No Spring Sprang because Spring Sprung
@jeffkuipers1030
@jeffkuipers1030 4 жыл бұрын
i all ways wanted a c3 vette but the wife said no so i have to keep a happy wife.
@paulmoss7940
@paulmoss7940 4 жыл бұрын
My ol lady said the same thing.I don't miss her,Love my vette.
@bullieboi
@bullieboi 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I am first!
@andyzamone5578
@andyzamone5578 4 жыл бұрын
You should have kept that Oldsmobile...
@TheCorvetteBen
@TheCorvetteBen 4 жыл бұрын
I can always buy another
@steves4639
@steves4639 4 жыл бұрын
back with a fiberglass monoleaf?
@SIERRA-dx9wm
@SIERRA-dx9wm 4 жыл бұрын
Believe you can save 30 lbs. over the steel ones.
@winstonwong3326
@winstonwong3326 4 жыл бұрын
I think the mounting is slightly different.
@SIERRA-dx9wm
@SIERRA-dx9wm 4 жыл бұрын
@@winstonwong3326 Yea some, Save 32 lbs and come in three spring rates. Can be quite a bit more costly.
@stevedouglas5443
@stevedouglas5443 4 жыл бұрын
Why can't you get t broken bolts by drilling, or easy out without removing the differential?
@TheCorvetteBen
@TheCorvetteBen 4 жыл бұрын
You could BUT the newer covers have a more heavy duty design. Also it'll take much less time to swap covers than drill holes
@Guitarmanjhc1
@Guitarmanjhc1 4 жыл бұрын
Dangerous is right. Why didn't the owner know about this issue? , is that why he brought it to you?
@13garage._
@13garage._ 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be easier , if you took off the exhaust?
@TheCorvetteBen
@TheCorvetteBen 4 жыл бұрын
It might be but it's welded all the way back which means I'd have to cut it
@13garage._
@13garage._ 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheCorvetteBen welded. Wow unheard backyard technologies .
@genegeneish
@genegeneish 3 жыл бұрын
Not a big deal. Someone did not know how to take apart and snapped bolts. Only needs a new cover and bolts. Ask me how i know. C3s are not that difficult to work on.
@jacklyons2557
@jacklyons2557 4 жыл бұрын
That was slap terrifying from start to finish. What could go wrong with unmoored leaf springs under tension? You should have at least told us how long it took you to go from "that's not right?" to "Holy SHIT!" All the ways this car could have gone fatally wrong and it ends up with you. OK, so maybe there is a god . . . .
@TheCorvetteBen
@TheCorvetteBen 4 жыл бұрын
That was what happened when the customer brought it over to look at a squeak
@jacklyons2557
@jacklyons2557 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheCorvetteBen Some squeak. Got to wonder what kind of collision -- and how it happened -- that sheared the bolts. Blame it on a PO? I'm telling you, I got some religion . . . .
@TheCorvetteBen
@TheCorvetteBen 4 жыл бұрын
The differential has been rebuilt. My guess is the dude who did it torqued the leaf spring bolts with an impact gun. That weakened them so they snapped eventually
@SIERRA-dx9wm
@SIERRA-dx9wm 4 жыл бұрын
Former mechanic must have been a drunk, Don't worry about the noise, it will be fine. Now pay me and go away.
@reptilian6413
@reptilian6413 4 жыл бұрын
wow am i the 1st post lol
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