Spider-Man: Far From Home review - Nah, it'll be fine

[@ghadrackpotato960]

The successor to Jarvis, smartest AI in the universe can't do a simple security recognition of a former Stark employee to alert Peter. Awesome.

[@SardonicJosh]

Ikr, DAMN IT F.R.I.D.A.Y! Or is that and E.D.I.T.H different?

[@lostinsauce4515]

I became alot more okay with Spiderman's magical suit lady once I learned it was voiced by Jennifer Connelly

[@ilovemetalmusic310]

100 likes. Imma ruin that.

[@ilkkarautio2449]

Average writer doesnt understand stuff like that, or some studio executie thinks that audience wouldnt think about that. 🤔😳

[@Graciashauf]

AH FK OFF FILM lol

[@Arak_Drakoniz]

4:28 “A magical space wizard wearing a fish bowl filled with bong smoke.” That is the best way anyone has ever described Mysterio.

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

Lmao right?

[@davidmalone7069]

I describe god as a magical space wizard, pisses alot of people off if they dont laugh at it

[@vr-vik5660]

I don't understand.....Is that gal Mary Jane? Or is she a new character with a conveniently identical name? As I recall she was a lovely ginger, have I missed something or she got white washed? Is this another attempt from Disney for another woke movie? Or I am missing the fact that Peter has got himself another girlfriend with a similar name?

[@plushman3685]

It’s perfect rhetoric

[@williamtovar8860]

best ever! i will drink to that

[@Kinos141]

Gyllenhall's bitterness was actually real, since he auditioned to be Spider-Man back in 2002, but lost it to Tobey McGuire. lol

[@resikin]

Phew, thank God that didn't happen.

[@obiedashinobi1322]

Obie Da Shinobi Agrees

[@histguy101]

I think he auditioned for the sequel as a backup in case they had to replace Tobey

[@AndrewAce.]

BRUH

[@obiedashinobi1322]

@Parvis Ty for the information stay powerful

[@Orangeyouglad870]

Tony in 2008: I am effective immediately shutting down the weapons division of Stark Industries 2019: with these sunglasses you can command an orbital assault from anywhere in the world, let’s give them to a high schooler

[@luke5930]

This is the same iron mans whos whole arc is he didnt want weapons in the wrong hands and then proceeded to give a weaponised suit with an instakill mode to a 13 year old boy who hes met for 5 minutes and then after realising hes useless and just a bit of a whiney bitch, he then proceeds to give him glasses that can access a load of weapons and the first thing peter does it use it to try and blow up his classmate all for a joke. Both iron man and tony stark got ruined because of their pairing together. It contradicts everything that makes each of the characters interesting

[@lordbonney9779]

@@luke5930 there is a reason for him giving Peter the Iron Spider suit. That being he sees him as a son and also knows Peter won’t stop being Spider Man. Tony kinda thought “at least with the Iron Spider he won’t die to a single bullet” and that’s our world building! P.S. This is stuff Mauler talks about. EFAP is where I got this info from.

[@JacobGrim]

"Character development"

[@kaotiqx]

You would have thought he would have left Peter a lot of money so he could have a comfortable life outside of fighting supervillains and criminals.

[@connortg5]

@@luke5930 ok while the whole sunglasses-controlling-orbital-strike-satellite thing was absolutely a bad idea, the questionable features of the spiderman suits he gave peter honestly aren't that bad when you consider that they were supposed to be locked in the original suit because tony knew he was too immature for them and probably would've been locked in the iron spider suit had peter accepted it at the intended time instead of being given it in the middle of a rush job to save him from dying in space.

[@wyldebill4178]

If Beck was a Stark employee, wouldn’t Edith have Identified him?

[@Silenthitman44]

Maybe because he's might not actually Quentin Beck according to the producer and director

[@randomduck8679]

Silenthitman44 but he was still a Stark employee

[@rescuehamster1734]

They didn't identify him because writing is hard.

[@gonzodelphiki2083]

But if they did that, it would also mean that the drones/EDITH would identify Peter/Spidey and not attack him, even tho the AI immediately reidentified him during the finale with dying Mysterio. That would have deflated the whole plot so they just kinda ignore it.

[@oraclegear1687]

He says in the movie he was fired after the BARF was revealed, so I guess that's why? Not on the record anymore. Plus edith wasn't created yet

[@invertedpolarity6890]

Remember when the “love interest” wasn’t constantly trying to insult and belittle the guy that likes her?

[@CeeDoubleU]

I do

[@ulyx9804]

I don't mind that, mostly because that's how I acted towards my husband when we first started dating. He was just too cute when he was uncomfortable. Don't worry he started insulting me back after a few weeks.

[@dr.hiturgirlup2723]

Ulyx no one asked but ok

[@CeeDoubleU]

@@ulyx9804 you're a pos and your husband has no testicles

[@KC-bi9jw]

@@ulyx9804 Yea get out of here Ulyx! This is for us incels only!!

[@BasicShapes]

So the elementals were faked by a guy who wanted to get rid of superheroes because he was jealous of said superheroes? Sounds an awful lot like The Incredibles to me.

[@randomduck8679]

Fluffy Waffles I don’t think he wanted to get rid of them all.

[@Corgislarping]

I mean, that’s exactly what mysterio’s motives were in his debut decades ago in comics, so he kinda did it first anyway

[@lukesdewhurst]

Im fairly sure The Incredibles has taken all its ideas from comic books. Jeez imagine not realising comic book movies are based on comic books

[@OneEyedCloud01]

I'm pretty sure he just wanted power. He was pissed at Stark, not superheroes in general.

[@Diree]

He didn't want to get rid of them, nor was he really "jealous". He was a disgruntled employee whose inventions were turned into - in his eyes - trivial gadgets by his egocentric, narcissistic asshole of a boss...and he found some other disgruntled employees to band together with. As Mysterio, combined with all the Stark tech, his goal was simply to take over the planet...and manipulate everything from the shadows, while being lauded as the hero, a front to make his dreams reality. What exactly those intentions were we never got to know...and yes, they didn't really think this through when it comes to actual threats, but I guess they just assumed that after Thanos what else would threaten Earth?

[@SolarDragon007]

The MCU basically removed the most compelling aspect of Spider-Man, that being that he's an independent, self-made superhero.

[@rescuehamster1734]

The MCU Spider-Man is entirely dependent on Iron Man. There is no "Spider-Man". Just the next Iron Man.

[@SolarDragon007]

@@rescuehamster1734 The ending of Homecoming gave me hope because they made it seem like Spidey was going to go his own way in the next film, but we're right back to Iron Boy in Far From Home.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@SolarDragon007 So stop supporting them.

[@SolarDragon007]

@@TheStraightestWhitest Honestly I probably will. I'm not really interested in the next Spider-Man movie at this point.

[@wackywoohoopizzaman0173]

This is exactly why Tom Holland is the worst spider man and why toby and the other guy are infinitely better, Toby Maguire in particular, because they are 100 percent their own person and don't need to rely on anyone else

[@benjamintyus6957]

What do you think of when you think of Spider-Man? That’s right Tony Starks teenage apprentice who uses high tech glasses to summon killer drones while vacationing in Europe Very true to the character

[@sarcasticmind1765]

And there's no Uncle ben, 🤣😂

[@anvos658]

Honestly that scene makes so little sense, why Peter didn't just have Edith hack his phone/cloud and delete the photo.

[@JReds-bw9kg]

@@anvos658 He did do that, he just messed up the first time. After that scene we cut to the "rival" not finding his photo.

[@GrandGurple]

I'm just imaging spider man 3 spider man doing the dance

[@frocat5163]

@@Laesis Yeah, it was something a stressed out _NORMAL_ teenager may have done. Throughout the comics, it's made pretty clear that Peter Parker is an exceptionally clear-thinking and level-headed teenager. Yes, he still suffers the typical teen problems, but he's also demonstrably more intelligent than normal teens. But, even if Peter would make a mistake like that, I find it more unbelievable that EDITH would initiate that attack. Seriously, a massively complex AI system designed by Tony Stark would allow someone to order a drone kill strike on a teenager sitting on a bus crowded with other teens over a vague comment? Peter literally said Brad had a photo of Peter, then was clearly confused/unsure what EDITH meant when she asked if Brad was a target. Tony was so concerned with the Avengers not having a system in place to "reign them in" that he agreed to the Sokovia Accords to limit his own ability to operate as he saw fit...but we're supposed to believe he'd give Peter Parker the unilateral ability to murder people using vague comments? Or that he'd design an AI so stupid it wouldn't be able to ask for confirmation that the user was asking it to kill someone? Based on the amount of time it takes the drone to leave the satellite and reach Europe (which is also ridiculous unless the satellite is in continuous geosynchronous orbit above the glasses), EDITH could have asked for a confirmation that Peter wanted the target eliminated/killed. After Peter vaguely confirmed Brad was a "target," EDITH could have simply asked, "Please confirm the target, Brad Davis, is to be eliminated."

[@ArlanKels]

The inherent problem of having World Ending cataclysms in a world filled with super heroes is that you can't have "solo movies" involving said cataclysms without it making absolutely no sense.

[@89Keith]

ArlanKels sure you can, you just make a half dozen other films with different heros, set in different locations at the same time

[@Chromwel-A]

Paul Keith ikr, Marvel Comics has been doing that in their cross over Marvel Event. Not only publishing the main event in their own comics, they also released every heroes' own comics while being involved with said event.

[@Chromwel-A]

Or look at Thor Ragnarok, heroes who are near to each other's locations like Thor and Hulk can team up, just like that. Or look at Jessica Jones and Luke Cage.

[@kailin8223]

It sucks because marvel was doing pretty well on that department before endgame , all the events and problems in avengers 1 and 2 had effects and problems that carried over to the next movies . Guess they realized that mcu has peaked after endgame and just gave up .

[@LadyDoomsinger]

To be fair, with world-ending events being a weekly occurrence in the MCU, it would make sense that all the A-list heroes would be like: Nah, it'll be fine.

[@gokutoriyama3179]

Jarvis was the best Al voice Tony Stark had, not too human sounding and not like those text to speech computer voices. While the voice they replaced him with, just sounds like some women from a call centre .

[@zxczxczxc7240]

she sounds "progressive"

[@MoffatLee]

I'm now picturing the third iteration of the AI voice as someone from the Indian subcontinent with an accent you can barely understand.

[@didimean]

@@MoffatLee Lilly Singh

[@bipstymcbipste5641]

@@didimean that's just cruel

[@bipstymcbipste5641]

@@hortn123 well, FRIDAY exists

[@originalusername7415]

disney: it turns out mysterio was a bad guy the whole time what a shocking surprising twist literally anyone whos even glanced at a spider man comic or video game: whhhaaaaaa? who could've possibly guessed

[@TSDamiano]

Me and my brother in the cinema Brother: wait he was the vilian ? Me: Yes From the start i read the comics

[@Narwhyn]

I've never read comics, and the only place I've ever seen Mystero is from Spiderman Disney Infinity, somehow I forgot he was a villain and this was a twist to me.

[@6thgraderfriends]

They did the same thing with Bucky. *Disney:* The Winter Soldier was actually his old friend Bucky all along! Can you believe it? What a shock! *Anyone who's read the comics:* What? No way...

[@davydevilution3483]

How many more Spider-Man Movies do you plan to make, Marvel ? Marvel : "Nah, it'll be fine.."

[@ryanj5658]

Any Marvel movie after End Game will be completely garbage.

[@chancepaladin]

venoooom plzzzzzzz hard R

[@goldarmgang4672]

@@ryanj5658 bruh

[@fernandosegovia8806]

@@ryanj5658 Trevor can't be wrong, he's always drunk

[@halfhawk718]

@@ryanj5658 *Laughs in Craptain Karen*

[@rodrigolloreda7012]

"I've had better conversations with toll booth attendants.... because they can't walk away HUEHUEHAAGH" I'm dead.

[@Antimony145]

rip

[@marbellaotaiza801]

F I ROFLed too

[@bwtv147]

The Avengers being unavailable is like the only people at the X Academy being Colossus, Teenage Warhead, and her girlfriend.

[@daywalker3735]

God I'm in love with her girlfriend lol

[@thoththeatlantean1226]

@@daywalker3735 facts

[@aryandalvi2197]

@@daywalker3735 hi yukio

[@melissaharris3389]

Well Carol Danvers is likely helping the real Nick Fury with whatever he's doing in space. The Skrulls might not be sure they can convince Sam/the new Cap and Rhodey/War Machine since both know Fury and Hill quite well. Clint is apparently giving archery lessons in NY; I imagine he, Matt Murdock and Bucky Barnes are all getting a drink and being sad boi's together.

[@SioxerNikita]

Well that was explained by Deadpool that it was the only ones they could afford XD So in that case it actually makes sense, but only because of the meta of the canon xD

[@CyGea]

EDITH - Even Dead I'm The Hero, that's very Tony.

[@arthur9491]

I heard it as "Eat dick I'm the hero"

[@harrambou9468]

Damn his back must’ve hurt from carrying Homecoming

According to these writers anyway

[@ATFprdepartment]

@@arthur9491 that’s more Starlord-sounding

[@vickerandflips8061]

@@ATFprdepartment Or Rocket

[@TheSaladKing]

Hulk didn't dab in this movie so I hated it.

[@lostliberty9913]

Salad King Big Facts! 👍👍

[@someguy1576]

Salad King These are confusing times

[@undergrounder]

Did he actually dub? I saw that more of a flex. Heh

[@YourGameSucks]

*insert hulk taco meme here*

[@errorcode6168]

Completely understandable. 😂

[@boodtwo4342]

Mysterio was a weird choice as a “twist” villain.

[@arthurrimbaud7287]

Jake Gyllenhaal was a weird choice for Mysterio.

[@troillandford7679]

@@arthurrimbaud7287 they should've gotten Bruce Willis lol. It's pretty clear that Marvel is going to get a Lister has-beens for Mysterio no matter what. just look at Eternals.

[@arthurrimbaud7287]

@@troillandford7679 They should have gotten someone like Steve Buscemi, or some other weird, creepy character actor. Same for Electro. That what most of Spider-Man's villains are: Creepy weirdos.

[@troillandford7679]

@@arthurrimbaud7287 YES. Buff Steve Buscemi getting the Chris Pratt treatment and Danny DeVito as doc ock lol

[@marbellaotaiza801]

The part where he said "it's mysterying time" and then mysteryed all over them did surprise me though...

[@krennicsaspirations4883]

So in the film Mysterio is basically Syndrome from The Incredibles?

[@OutdatedLeon]

Yeap. And it's the same for the "real" Mandarin in Ironman 3. They basically stole the plot of incredibles and used it twice, with both times having Ironman as Mr Incredible.

[@brianbrush5107]

@@OutdatedLeon How is it like the manderin thing?

[@bbriggs7409]

Lol nice profile name 🤣🤣

[@OutdatedLeon]

@White-Van Helsing erm, I don't really understand what you mean... but if you're talking about the comics then I think we're not on the same page here. But if you're saying that Ironman 3 predates The Incredibles... I think you'll need to recheck the publishing dates of the movies. Now, if you're talking about a villain who's working behind the scene... well, sure. But that wasn't what I meant. I was saying that Marvel had used the "good ol science geek held a grudge with the hero and became a supervillain" plot from The Incredibles twice in the MCU - the first time in Ironman 3 and the second in Spider-man: Far From Home.

[@anubusx]

Iron Man 3 was like the Incredibles.

[@ChipplesDClown]

Remember the time when Mysterio tricked Wolverine into thinking the XMen were all bad guys, and Wolverine killed ALL of the XMen? Good times.

[@b.lloydreese2030]

Too bad they couldn't have done that in Logan. Too bad the villains don't try that in the comics for real

[@pauldem4873]

Old Man Logan was the shit. Too bad MCU movies dont have the balls to go there.

[@MamaMOB]

Did he use projected light aka holograms?

[@giorgosg9671]

@@MamaMOB no

[@jacknedry3925]

Holy shit, THAT’S quite a feat to pull off!

[@OllieByGolly]

My favorite aspect of the movie is how Spider-Man used his actual Spider-Man powers to defeat Mysterio instead of the Tony Stark deus ex machina bullshit-suit.

[@namecannotbeblank6858]

Right after he used a Tony Stark deus ex machina to make a suit with specific tools to take down all of the illusion drones at once. Yeah ok.

[@shayla106]

@@namecannotbeblank6858 That’s the horrible part.

[@namecannotbeblank6858]

@@shayla106 believe me, I know.

[@NS-xx1ze]

@@namecannotbeblank6858 yeah, just ignore how he uses *spider sense* to not get tricked and shoot

[@namecannotbeblank6858]

@@NS-xx1ze see... you notice how my comment agrees that he used his powers to stop Mysterio "Right after" all the shit I mentioned. I'm not ignoring anything I'm making a seperate point.

[@rogerfurlong1535]

The JK Simmons cameo was the best part of the movie

[@trevor3013]

As much as I want to agree. They are tainting simmons jameson by adding him to this shit hole of a movie tbh

[@SpFlash1523]

@@trevor3013 🤦🤦

[@thx4chrckingin]

I was out of my seat cheering for that one

[@marbellaotaiza801]

It's a good part of drinker's critiques too, though I prefer the shite smelling lady...

[@Chromeskull90]

Imagine that the part of the projector that MJ grabs, to be like the piece of graphite that the fireman grabs in Chernobyl... A man can dream.

[@Davidsworldtravels]

she didn't pick up graphite because it was concrete! it DIDN'T HAPPEN! Obviously this man is delirious. Take him to the infirmary.

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

@@Davidsworldtravels Not great, not terrible.

[@ETBrooD]

Chromeskull90 Actual drama and tangible, personal stakes? You're talking about the MCU, not compelling storytelling.

[@Chromeskull90]

@@ETBrooD with real stakes and consequences at hand? not by a longshot

[@AlanHoey86]

She'll be fine, I've seen worse.

[@whiplash2891]

The thing that bothers me the most is that Jarvis back in the day was kinda self aware: he tried to reason with Tony when he wanted to fly the Mk2, he tried to reason with Ultron when it first woke up, Jarvis was sentient in a way: he had common sense of what was right and what was wrong. Jarvis was feared by Ultron, a sentient neural thing that came out of an infinity stone AND HE EVEN CANCELED OUT Ultron's "evil-centric" mind and perfectly balanced it out resulting in Vision's neutral and logical judgement. And now, 2 AI's later, we have to believe Edith, the most advanced sh*t available, can't figure out on her own that mobilizing hundreds or thousands of drones to kill off like everyone in sight, ESPECIALLY F***ING AVENGERS, SPIDERMAN&FRIENDS IS BEYOND STUPID is.. is just.. f*ck off film.

[@theextracrispycolonel9504]

Mysterio was easily the best part,especially his illusion scenes

[@cappy2282]

He's a sweet character. Awesome in old cartoons too. Shouldn't have been played by Jake Q. tho

[@whitehairedbadass3475]

lol yh but everytime the illusion scenes came up i wandered why he didnt just shoot him will he was confused and be done with it.

[@Tmanowns]

Yeah, I guess Handsome Syndrome was pretty decent.

[@Liberator130]

HIs motivations make no sense. And is anyone absolutely tired of all of the villains either being a response to, or caused by, Tony Stark? Iron Man 3, Age of Ultron, Homecoming, and now Far From Home (where Tony has been dead for a while).

[@90lancaster]

Mysterio you say... kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3K7nY2sitKbmZI

[@WalterLiddy]

I think the biggest weakness of the film is that they seem to think his whole retinue of buddies need to be given active roles in the major conflicts. So instead of seeing Spider-Man fight alone against incredible odds to save them all, we get more like a team effort where normal people hold their own in fights between super-powered beings. His friends should be either hiding for their lives or suffering terrible consequences for involving themselves in these fights. Instead we get MJ and Ned actively assisting in the battles. Rather than uplifting them and demolishing helpless maiden tropes, the effect is to diminish Spider-Man's importance. They hardly seem to need him at all.

[@Theycallmethek3]

Only part of no way home im not looking forward too, mj and ned look like they are gonna be a big part of it

[@thorinhannahs4614]

This is one reason I disliked No Way Home.

[@thorinhannahs4614]

@Erik Kemeey Okay.

[@spider-man500]

Again, much more akin to Miles Morales who often has allies to help him. Heck Ned in the MCU is 100% based on Miles's best friend and guy in the Chair Ganke Lee.

[@sherlockholmes539]

What sort of public highschool in New York sends it's students to Europe?

[@flankspeed]

A Hollywood one, bro.

[@cyrusthagreat6649]

i mean, im down in florida, but my public high school took a europe trip

[@aceambling7685]

depends on the economic status of said neighborhood.

[@sherlockholmes539]

It's only a 6 hour or so flight so I am curious. But it does seem like B.S. to me.

[@Beastinvader]

Spoilers If you watched the movie, Fury heavily implies that he organized the trip to get Peter to Italy.

[@richardpowell4281]

Dear Drinker, I am new to your channel. Have you considered Merch? Even something simple like a sticker that says "GO AWAY Nooouw!" or "Nah, it'll be fine". Sincere question. I would probably buy

[@snark4611]

he should just resell Jack Daniel's t-shirts.

[@dantedrowson2511]

I would buy one.

[@Anacronian]

what about "I'm not drunk enough to like this!"

[@Megatron_95]

@@Anacronian I would buy that one in a heartbeat

[@Dubious_Kieran]

Is everyone forgeting "F*ck off film!"?

[@degrelleholt6314]

Why does every scene with "MJ" look like she's complaining about something?

[@harrambou9468]

Because she’s got resting bitch face

[@macjamesflynn3732]

Because as a subgroup of the left, who dominates entertainment and the cultural narrative today, feminists hate that men are in fact attracted to warm, soft, sweet feminine women. So against every experience of reality and common sense they desperately promote the idea that what men actually are attracted to are brooding, cold, stoic, masculine women who act more like military general George Patton than a stereotypical feminine romantic interest as a balanced counterpart to the masculine hero of the story. I watched this movie on rental and knew I was going to have to hold my nose through the sjw nonsense but MJ and Peter Parker's dynamic threw me off more than anything. Through the entire movie I kept saying to myself, this kid is fun, outgoing, charismatic, and likeable, so what the fuck is he doing chasing this dead fish who's unimpressed and obviously isn't interested in him (or anything at all)? But hey, it pushes the narrative so in that respect it's a success. Feminism 1, toxic masculinity 0. Yaaaas for manly women!!

[@theamaranthineman574]

Because she's complaining about something. I'm still waiting for Zendaya's second facial expression.

[@jessieluze369]

@@theamaranthineman574 Lmaoo that was good, me too.

[@iateyursandwiches]

@@macjamesflynn3732 feminism doesnt think this...funny rnough its men who tend to think women like that in men but I digress MJ is just written that way to be counter culure which was the point of her character from inception in the 60s and 70s, it was being a party girl...in 2022. I guess its "not like other girls" type of thing.

[@conot4006]

The B Team = The current MCU hero’s after End game

[@appa609]

SW, Dr. S, and Thor are still S-tier powerhouses.

[@DanielGonzalez-ce9er]

@Kryptoskillet that's what I'm saying 😂 maybe the scarlet witch?

[@leov3569]

@Kryptoskillet thank you I was thinking the same thing. Lol

[@hanburgundy4317]

@@appa609 War Machine, Dr. Strange, Hulk, Thor, AntMan, the Wasp, the _other_ AntMan and the _other_ Wasp, etc. lol There are dozens of powerhouse heroes left.

[@crossbones116]

Well outside of Adam Warlock and the Eternals, I really don't know what else to look forward to from the MCU. Maybe they'll give us a decent Fantastic Four or X-Men movie... or it's all going to go Captain Marvel-shaped from here on out.

[@chadwinfield9562]

masters of the universe?.. House of M (if they get x-men) Warlock, God Doom, WWH.. there is plenty.. another reboot of phoenix saga 🤣.

[@marinesinspace6253]

Doctor Doom as an arch villain. The reason he's so compelling as a villain: He's right, he is more capable than any other person of running humanity. He has the technology, the intelligence and the will to set humanity on the right path. It's just that he doesn't care about the people who will be ground under in his regime. In fact, it's debatable that he cares about humanity at all, he just wants to be in charge for the sake of it. Do we loose our humanity in the pursuit of maintaining the species?

[@chadwinfield9562]

@@marinesinspace6253 yep.. spot on.. he'd be amazing if they could get someoen good and actually make him that way.. but given the current mcu he's just tell loads of forced jokes 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@XboxGamer220]

@@marinesinspace6253 Isn't there a story about Doom talking with the Panther God, who declares that Doom really is honest about his motivations? I've heard mention about it before

[@cannonfodder5766]

WozzaBoi yes

[@deanmottershead9208]

The “why are no other avengers getting involved” problem will just continue to get worse the longer the MCU carries on As you mentioned why wouldn’t you at least deploy the B team when major world cities are being attacked Also at this point you would think that there are prospective people who think they can cut the mustard to become superheroes Spider-Man is no longer a minor super hero in the films like you said he was Iron mans protege he is arguably as well known as Falcon if not Hulk and Thor. Everywhere he goes people should be wanting to show off their super skills. I kind of hate what the MCU films did to Spider-Man by making him a avenger this Peter will never be able to have the key struggles that made Spider-Man or peter a true hero. No longer will paying for aunt mays medical bills or getting rent money be a issue when he has a major muti national business behind and around him also as a avenger you would hope that at some point they will start paying members to be on the roster.

[@mrillis9259]

If I was Spiderman, I'd Rob drug dealers like Mike Tyson said to do when you need money.

[@harrambou9468]

They’ve done so much good work with the MCU’s holy trinity (Iron Man, Cap A, and Thor) I think they just wanted Spider-Man there to be there

[@Kalakeiko]

They did fix a good portion of that in No Way Home imo

[@hen263]

I'm old enough to remember when John Favreau didn't look like he ate spiderman.

[@thetallestdwarf7041]

Remember when he was on Friends and it was almost believable he competed in MMA?

@@thetallestdwarf7041 It's still believable, MMA is great for big guts. Big country 4 life

[@jnnx]

That’s Money baby!

[@MichaelSmith-mw6dl]

PCU FTW! Can you blow me where the Pampers is?

[@lancelot0274]

Yeah go back and look at him on "The Replacements". Almost unrecognizable.

[@RatFacedJasper]

They rightly stayed away from an origin movie but they have also seemingly removed Uncle Ben as driving force for Peter's will to do the good thing.

[@hvitekristesdod]

RatFacedJasper And they blew up his suitcase and made a joke about it...

[@idiotproofdalek]

Apparently there’s a contract between Marvel and Sony that mandates that the MCU Spider-Man is changed to a certain extent from the traditional characters.

[@OneEyedCloud01]

They've set up Stark as his mentor figure perfectly and his morals are virtually the same. It's fine.

[@wackywoohoopizzaman0173]

@@OneEyedCloud01 except that it isn't Tom's spiderman is too reliant on Tony stark and has no true driving force look at spiderman 2 where the entire movie was about toby going through a lot of stuff versus tom get everything handed to him and doesn't really have any troubles plus he is dumb as a box of rocks versus in the comics Peter is one of the smartest people on earth and toby fits that perfectly

[@HansKSG]

I actually think the last Spiderman was better as a character, than any of the others. He just got pitted against the most silly and irritating villains he could. I liked that they got the Gwen Stacy story right as well. Maybe in the next MCU try, in, lets say, 2040. Maybe we will see the perfect Spiderman adaption :P

[@Mr._Nobadi_M._Portent]

"Be more Cap, son!" Line of the year! (Even if it was a different year)

[@harrambou9468]

Cap was a real hero.✊

[@d21rich]

That animated Spider-Man film was the most refreshing thing to happen to this franchise in a while.

[@casper6405]

Into the spiderverse is so good

[@resikin]

Yeah, since 2007

[@obiedashinobi1322]

@@casper6405 Obie Da Shinobi Agrees Shinobi Squad Assemble

[@elykspuz6596]

The animation was hard to watch so I turned it off.

[@LegoEpicAnimator]

@@elykspuz6596 I recommend to watch it, the writing is good and the characters act like human beings and have depth. Also the movie has a pretty good message.

[@DiggitySlice]

The problem is anyone that knows Mysterio saw the twist coming a mile away. Also, Diversity MJ really bums me out

[@ElectromagNick]

Que M. Night Shamamalamadingdong "what a twist!"

[@palladiamorsdeus]

Diversity Spiderman in general. His little group of 'diverse' friends, and even Flash is...I don't even know. This movie was just embarrassing.

[@MamaMOB]

Why couldn’t they have at least gotten a hot not white chick?

[@MamaMOB]

Palladiamors Flash is the absolute worst! They took him from a football player to a guy who I could kick his ass. And I’m 5’2 95lbs.

[@bradnewsbear]

Why do the tiniest girls always talk about kicking ass? Like no offense to you personally but there are weight classes in combat sports for a reason...the only ass you are kicking at that height and weight is a five year old

[@whatevs4455]

"fishbowl filled with bongsmoke" this idea really makes me crack up

[@denkerbosu3551]

But Drinker! It doesn't have to be like the comics, so suddenly """"MJ"""" is an ok character totally deserving of screentime! Also, Since Carl Manvers, I can't take Nick Fury seriously anymore. Every time I see him acting cool, I am reminded of the origin of that eye-patch.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Yeah his Eyescream went out of style.

[@TheCriticalDrinker]

I'll never forgive Marvel for that one. Every time Fury tries to act badass, all I can see is that scene.

[@mirrorzone5224]

@@TheCriticalDrinker Yeah ok. He successfully rose through the ranks to become the Director of SHIELD, he completed several successful missions, he manipulated the Avengers into forming in the first place, he oversaw the evacuation of Sokovia, and he's currently leading space operations with a bunch of Skrulls, but let's only remember him for an embarrassing accident he had 28 years ago when he was just a level 3 agent.

[@turtleanton6539]

It cant be because sony

[@turtleanton6539]

@@mirrorzone5224 they fucked it up

[@BananaMana69]

I loved the scene where you have Flash, the kid who supposed to be the jock (traded that in for shitty social media influencer crap) and Happy, Tony Starks personal assistant, and they get defended from the drone by two 15 year old girls wielding medieval weapons. That completely took me out of the movie. Happy should have some James Bond style gadgets that Tony made for him, and its a perfect opportunity to show that know Tony is gone Happys realises hes gotta get more serious, and that his shitty brawling skills won't do it anymore, but instead of building up the real charectars in the story lets take the opportunity to let MJ smack the drone with a fucking mace.

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

Great point

[@Dragblacker]

One of the few things that was good about MCU Spidey, at least at first, was that it showed Happy from Peter's point of view, an older, serious authority figure, whereas with other adults Happy was always more the comic relief. This movie should've gone further along this route: it kind of gets it right with the talk in the plane, but it gets ruined with the drone scene you're talking about. Why is he gushing his secrets to dumb kids, anyway? Ned's confused look was chuckle-worthy, but it wasn't worth neutering an adult for.

[@Jdudec367]

two? I don't remember anyone besides MJ

[@gustavmetal]

Good observation. I was already not invested in the movie by that momento to give an F...but youre completely correct.

[@navonmyhand7999]

@@Jdudec367 Ned was still dating the blonde girl Betty, so she was with him when Happy took MJ and Ned to safety. Flash came along too because he didn't want to be alone.

[@webbmerriam6984]

I feel like it would have been pretty easy to change Beck's motivation from: "i want to be a superhero," to: "i want to be Iron Man" and have his character make a little more sense. Why does he insist on being a real superhero/leading the avengers when his "powers" are all fabricated? Because becoming the lead avenger (and getting close to Tony's protégé) would likely give him greater access to Tony's Iron Man tech, with which he could functionally become a superhero himself, Iron Man was just a guy in a suit after all. He could make the argument that nobody is actually using the tech for anything productive and as a high level Stark Industries employee he has just as much a right to it as anyone. Also it would make him fit into the MCU archetype of villains who worked with Tony in some way feeling entitled to his tech and trying to take it for themselves. (Aka the military, and every villain from the Iron Man movies, also the vulture if you really wanna stretch it) This would have made the movie better without actually changing very much of what happens in it.

[@Noodles.Doodles]

Underrated idea.

[@trothmetalcraft8144]

The villain was MYSTERIO for God's sake!! How in the hell were there going to be "Spoilers" ?

[@nachobusiness2663]

Yeah, glad I didn’t spend money to see it myself

[@adomaster123]

Jeb Reggie no you didn’t.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

Those elementals look like the Titans a bit from Hercules. Wonder when we are going to get a live action remake of Hercules.

[@turtleanton6539]

I thought he was gonna be a Goodguys!!! JK

[@turtleanton6539]

@@RomanHistoryFan476AD neva

[@JoeyDoesStuff1120]

TCD: I'm done with mcu *talks about far from home*

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

For a professiona storyl writer, which he does for a living, the paint by numbers for profits of Marvel have to grind on him. Oh look, a villain with copy pasta powers of the hero, activate luck powers or plot conveniences, smart ass jokes, rinse repeat ad infinitum nausea. Spidey's got a rogues gallery to compete with Batman, but nah, Stark's sloppy seconds

[@JoeyDoesStuff1120]

@@JoshuaKevinPerry What's with the horrible grammar?

[@brianbrush5107]

When someone says there done with something cause there grown out of it. If they like to criticise it then there's a 60/40 percent they don't really mean it and will just continue to Critique it. Look at the rwby haters

[@idfkwhatyouwantfromme]

Did he subvert your expectations?

[@shayla106]

Brian brush I hate Ruby now and do not watch it anymore. Also, it’s kinda like watching a car wreck. Mixed with a sense of curiosity: how much worse can this get?

[@stephenwakeman3074]

I didn't get how the holograms combined with drones were actually meant to work. Like, the water elemental got people wet, which holograms can't do. If they had enough drones with supersoakers to pull that off, they didn't need EDITH in the first place. And there were things beside that which you can't explain away with drones. Like, how did the fire elemental subsume metallic objects like statues with molton lava? What happened to the metals that it was "consuming"? If you've got drones that can do all these amazing things WTF do you even need the pretense of an illusion anyway?

[@Soulslinger]

The metallic objects were part of the illusion. Most everything that the elementals interacted with was either part of the illusion or was simply shot by drones (eg. you can clearly see in the fire elemental battle that the ferris-wheel was just shot with bullets). Things getting wet in the water elemental battle could just be drones quickly moving in and out of water and making waves. We do not actually see the water elemental itself affecting anything other than holo-Mysterio. Though yes, I do admit that the water elemental thing requires a bit of suspension of disbelie.

[@amind1317]

Absolutely everything to do with the Mysterio character ruined all interest in this title for me. The whole thing was a choir to watch.

[@renkol123]

The whole movie plot spoiled for me the second I saw Mysterio on screen. I literally looked at my friend and said "wait, that's Mysterio, isn't it?" So basically anyone who read Spiderman comics already knew the plot from the beginning. Kinda sad really.

[@miguelcondadoolivar5149]

Some TV cartoons featured Mysterio as well.

[@Maladjester]

The average moviegoer didn't know who Mysterio was before this. Have to remember The Mouse doesn't make these movies for us. They count on our dollar, and we get thrown little crumbs like references to Beta Ray Bill, but the films are very much mass market. Also, given that the superhero movie formula demands a succession of named antagonists, it's not difficult for someone who never saw Mysterio before to deduce there's going to be a heel turn.

[@Quickdrawingartist]

I knew from the commercials only because he's the Level 1 boss on the Game Boy, followed with the 90s cartoon.

[@Tiishen]

I didn't even read the comics and I knew who he is anyway

[@qty1315]

I mean, fair play for the movie to point out how stupid Peter's alter ego of Spider-Man is and how easy it would be to figure it out. BUT THEN they have Zendaya make the point that every other person in the school is an idiot EXCEPT FOR HER because they didn't figure it out. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

[@qty1315]

@Shreyas Misra It would, if not for the fact that Flash spent the previous movie obsessing over Peter ("Penis Parker"). Also, Peter was a bit of a big-shot in the previous movie because he was the star of the debate team.

[@brianbrush5107]

@@qty1315 He wasn't obsessing over Peter, He just liked making fun of him when he could.

[@qty1315]

@@brianbrush5107 He really did cross the line into obsessing over him.

[@bronzantilium7699]

If Peter just wore glasses he never would have been found out.

[@qty1315]

@@bronzantilium7699 Umm... Hmm... Ah- Yeah, maybe he should have worn glasses in this film. 'cough'

[@TheInfamousRPGGroup-on-Rumble]

But Drinker, you talented and handsome creator you, what about MJ's clearly diversity-influence change into a non-redhead who happens to look like a 7-year-old boy?

[@ethandalton6480]

Or maybe Zendaya happened to be the best actor that auditioned for the role?

[@golden5078]

@@ethandalton6480 Zendaya is my favorite actress but she's not for MJ lmao

[@wimpymcsteel4458]

Or maybe she is there to bring Zendaya fans to the movie. It is a shame that she did not let her play a stronger part in unmasking Mysterio. If Marvel wants to re-invent the franchise, changing MJ from a hot damsel in distress to an inquisitive, cynical detective type with a nose for the truth - one who can help Spiderman uncover plot points with reason and intellect - would be a nice place to start.

[@golden5078]

@@wimpymcsteel4458 Fax bro, If you're not gonna make MJ a readhead at least create a good character, but not even that

[@golden5078]

@Jeremy Pick Kevin Feige said she wasn't MJ because he knew fans would go crazy, he basically said she's MJ, but she doesn't have the same name, isn't a readhead and doesn't act like an MJ

[@lucacerini5537]

*AC/DC* starts playing Peter: Oh I love Led Zeppelin! Me: uncultured swine

[@derekbrown5123]

That was the joke...

[@soulciel]

Oh. You get the joke

[@dzas_cave]

Cow Person hahaha

[@helgenlane]

That was actually a pretty good joke. We know that Peter is a geek, but he doesn't know everything, so it's okay for him to not know 70's rock bands.

[@viscountrainbows6452]

*puts an N64 cartridge into a GameCube* ＬＯＬＯＬＯＬＯＬＯＬＯＬＯＬ

[@missiontobeaman3111]

*Pretty heavy hints? They literally say “I’m not iron man” “you’ll be the next iron man” and so on at least 3 or 4 times.*

[@SteampunkCreeper]

yet for some reason he is still set to be iron man, have you read a comic recently? Spider man straight up runs a tech company, it is clear to most that even if they say he's not iron man, he will be the filler

[@appa609]

it makes sense... this peter makes webs in a chem lab.

[@bwtv147]

I thought it was set up for Iron Person to be an adolescent Woman Of Color.

[@wimpymcsteel4458]

No kidding. They even gave him Iron Man's side kick. Real subtle there, Marvel - lol

[@obiedashinobi1322]

@@wimpymcsteel4458 lol Obie Da Shinobi Agrees Stay powerful

[@benzielke7149]

when I saw this I thought "gee, are they aiming heavy at the 14 yr. old crowd now or what?"

[@trontosaurusrex9532]

Jake Gyllenhaal's portrayal of Mysterio was my favorite thing about this film.

[@j.d.buchanan4897]

That's probably because he's the best actor in the film.

[@trontosaurusrex9532]

@@j.d.buchanan4897 Gonna agree with you on that.

[@metalmugen]

@@j.d.buchanan4897 if you don't count JK Simmons, absolutely

[@bigmiki2620]

Is he over the top theatrical and narcissistic like Mysterio is?

[@nambo1445]

@@bigmiki2620 yes

[@ryanscottnix]

"Go watch something else... Something made by me." Subbed

[@fischeborne9713]

If only all KZbinrs were this honest.

[@Eromasta6]

?film off fuck says he where from clip that is movie What

[@Eromasta6]

hmm... why did my comment get backwards...?

[@ryanscottnix]

@@Eromasta6 Can I get a timestamp? I can't find the clip to which you refer. The one he uses a lot is from, "Not Another Teen Movie" ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/o329oIqsYtKFgMU

[@obiedashinobi1322]

Agreed Shinobi Squad Assemble

[@briankrause2359]

Your assessment of this movie is spot on (as almost always). I thought this was one of the better Spider Man (and possibly Marvel as a whole) UNTIL that scene on the bridge where the 'hologram projector' turns on magically and gives away Mysterio's gig. Everything from that point on was basically a pale imitation of the quality of the first half of the movie or whatever. By the time of the 'final battle' in London, I couldn't possibly have cared less again, due to Marvel's inability to have a 'battle' that doesn't involve (as you said) 1000s of cgi enemies flying around. Almost every Marvel movie seems to rely on 'battles to the horizon' in these cases, but I'd MUCH rather have ONE single battle between two foes (like Winter Soldier/Captain america) then endless cgi enemies off into infinity. But I must be in the minority as virtually every Marvel movie recently ends the same way... This movie started out really well (I liked Mysterio) but ended just as bad as 90% of Marvel movies unfortunately.

[@Etherman7]

THANK YOU for pointing out how stupid the skrulls use is. At best, they get one okay story arc. At worst, they do what the comics do and use them for retcons up the wazoo.

[@DoyleAndrewCarson]

In D&D terms, avengers begin at 10th level, with the primary job to save the planet. Spiderman in origin advances from level to up to level 9; he focuses on bringing down criminals and maybe saving the city. MCU made spiderman jump the shark by making him an avenger.

[@Willowy13]

The post credit scene. The post credit scene. The post credit scene... because losing the eye to the space cat was not enough.

[@ioankibble8866]

What happened

[@ernestomiloli8414]

I Kno right marvel has disrespect 4 some of their characters

[@joaquimgianini1234]

Well, I didn't really hate it, I was just confused because why would the skrulls report to the actual Nick Fury? I mean, the point of them was to invade earth, why are they taking orders from Fury while he is in space?

[@harrambou9468]

@@joaquimgianini1234 you must not have seen Captain Marvel

[@joaquimgianini1234]

@@harrambou9468 That's true, I didn't, everyone just told me it was shit so I didn't go out of my way to watch it. But, you know, the skrulls are some of the coolest villains in Secret Wars, kinda weird to have them allied to earth

[@luigines6457]

Imma be honest with y'all, I really hate Tom Holland's Spiderman (not the actor, just so you know). Peter Parker was always an intelligent and clever teen, yet Tom Holland's Spiderman is a joke. Not only that but he seems unsure about everything he does and fumbles around with almost everything. Originally, Parker made all his equipment, but what Tom Holland's Parker uses is mostly made by everyone else. Yes, there was his first appearance where he used his homemade web slingers, but that's about it. Overall, I can't relate to Tom Holland's Spiderman the same way I related to Toby Maguire's Spiderman.

[@rexpodung5365]

I agree with u, but what did u expect from studios like marvel studios, the story writing is just lazy and a bit rushed in order to make it connected to mcu rather giving us a proper origin story and better story arcs. One of the reasons i don't like about mcu spiderman that they make him more childish and immature. I don't give a f*ck for another mcu spiderman movie but after i saw the trailer now i'm excited. But let's be honest most of the fans only excited to see old villains, tobey and andrew's spiderman if only they gonna appear in the next movie 🤣

[@storysurgeon5922]

you can't relate to Tom because he doesn't show he's clever or intelligent but you can relate to Tobey? Tobey has virtually no feats of intelligence in his movies, less than both Tom Hollan AND Andrew Garfield. And his webbing was organic. You're closer to creating your own web-shooters with your own synthetic spiderweb than you are shooting organic web from your wrist

[@mariantambe5110]

Honestly, I can't see Hollands Spidey as being virtuous in a heroic way. Why does he want to be a superhero? Maguires Spidey didn't. Not at first. He just wanted to use his new skills for himself because it was cool and he wanted money for a car to impress a girl. He doesn't start to become a hero until his uncle dies. He grows. What's Hollands Spidey's motivation in the first film? No motivation, no virtue. Not really a good movie.

[@williamwalton9154]

A year later but your a correct because Holland is NOT Spider-Man yet. Its not until the end of the 3rd movie that he is really Spider-Man.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

I like the organic webs better. A bullshit artifact that shoots webs? I mean, anyone could've done that...

[@mitchtherighteous]

I love how this movie is just one glorified euro travel advert, you'll notice in the festivities part when they're in Prague there are tons of afghanis and Syrians in the background partying as a subtle reassurance of "they are streets might be crawling with refugees but they will just be there to party with you and not pull off truck of peace attacks at your favourite Christmas market."

[@craigime]

lol

[@deathtakes]

Or rape and pimp out thousands of young girls. Diversity is a strength afterall.

[@TheRainblossoms]

Ethnic diversity at its finest

[@Dragblacker]

The world is just one big playground, after all. Sure you're seeing Muslim girls wearing headscarves to convince you just how religious they are, but otherwise they're just as much jetsetting partiers as you are, making it all completely pointless! But celebrate diversity!

[@yacinemadaoui6814]

The thing is there's almost no asylum seekers from such ethnicities in the Czech Republic, also such festivities do not exist in Prague. Just another bland portrayal based on misconceptions.

[@markadams5823]

I'm tired of puberty spider man. Let's get to college spider man at least.

[@bikimbrown1545]

I was thinking the same thing...

[@liberalbias4462]

I wanna spider dong

[@bobbythebrainii2118]

mark adams the PS4 Spider-Man is the best Spider-Man. College aged Spidey, Red headed and hot MJ, great enemies. Great story. The best Spider-Man story I’ve seen.

[@loveissalvation7268]

@mark adams NOOOOOOO Let him be a high school teenager !

[@themadtitan7603]

I swear... Peter wasn't even in high-school that long for them to be coming back to it again and again. In fact, most of his best, well-written stories occur in his adult years anyways.

[@jaythor5578]

When Peter put on the stealth suit I thought he'd actually use it like he does in the comics. And find out more about Fury and Beck.

[@zoopdterdoobdter5743]

>MJ >The ginger replacement meme is real. 😒

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

Ariel: ''Hold my beer!''

[@crunchy1547]

The MJ in this movie isn’t Mary Jane.

[@ElectromagNick]

@@crunchy1547 Does anyone actually think about someone _other_ than Mary Jane Watson when you say "MJ" in relation to Spider-Man?

[@crunchy1547]

ElectromagNick probably not

[@themadtitan7603]

@@ElectromagNick Apperantly Kevin Feige explained the "MJ" initials as a nod to the original character but that Michelle herself is an original character which just makes me think why the hell did they do ?! Just name her anything else, no need to take the initials of Spider-Man's most iconic love interest.

[@nunchuckcanuck2827]

Fanciest school trip I went on was to the water treatment plant. We learned how poop water gets cleaned

[@b.lloydreese2030]

Lucky

[@melissahurt3526]

Would've rather done that then watch this movie

[@whereDoCarrotsComeFrom]

same man, it definiteley tasted better afterwards tho

[@nunchuckcanuck2827]

@@whereDoCarrotsComeFrom the sampling was my favorite part

[@ioankibble8866]

Lucky you all we done was go to a pebble beach

[@Jayskiallthewayski]

I remember in the comics how M.J. was a smoking hot read head waiting on Peter in lingerie when he had a rough day, calling him Tiger. But I guess women are not supposed to be...you know, nice anymore.

[@thecopperiris]

Or white, or sexy, or anything other than sjw

[@sirlorddoctormajorphd3016]

More like Michael Jackson from her look

[@drlarrymitchell]

"...but then a magical space wizard wearing a fishbowl filled with bong smoke shows up..."

[@Justlarm]

i always hate when that happens

[@propheci]

Good review, seems the air is slowly being let outta the mcu tires. I'll wait for this on digital, since I try to wait until there are no other options before I eat at McDonald's. That justice league review? Make it happen...go away, now👍

[@akaChriss4L]

Jake did such an amazing performance in this. Just the writing is so damn bad. The plot is stupid. Some CGI is really bad. But acting, sound effects and fight scenes were great.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

I liked the part where he said "it's mysterying time" and then mysteryed all over them...

[@dylanlewis3038]

Back in Black plays. Me: Hey they used that in Iron Man. Peter: I love Led Zeppelin! Me: No.

[@calumnorth]

... that’s the joke

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

@@calumnorth Objectively unfunny.

[@Lord_Numpty]

@@calumnorth To quote Yahtzee from Zero Punctutaion (Broken Age); '"That's the joke!", I hear you argue. "Then why aren't I laughing?", I retort.'

[@turtleanton6539]

@@Lord_Numpty 😁

[@ToddKeck98]

I honestly had to look it up whether or not Led Zeppelin was the original singer of that song and the Accadacca just covered it after watching the movie. I cringed afterwards.

[@gabrieldonnelly2473]

“It does what it does tolerably well” 😂 ah the middle path

[@ETBrooD]

The forgettable path. Like Ant-Man and the Wasp or Deadpool 2. Basically the MCU in a nutshell.

[@AP-Design]

Aiming for the middle lol

[@gamemediafan1714]

@@ETBrooD daredevil 2? There was never a sequel to the original film.

[@ETBrooD]

@@gamemediafan1714 Yeah idk why I said Daredevil, I meant Deadpool. Probably mixed them up in my head.

[@gamemediafan1714]

@@ETBrooD I thought deadpool 2 was better then the first one. It felt like it had everything good about the first one while doing what a sequel is supposed to do: go bigger. The stakes were higher, there were more characters, the action was bigger and there was more of it, there were some pretty dark scenes, etc.

[@d.martin7692]

Samuel L. Jackson's game is getting old.

[@josephsalmonte4995]

Agreed. He's pretty much the same character in 100+ movies 🙄

[@furorfrisii7679]

Time for an ADULT Spidey. Done with that sjw-obsession with children, or teen-boys.

[@TheFinalGate_]

Furor Frisii true

[@ashleydortch2445]

Agree

[@helgenlane]

But all the previous Spider-Man movies were about adults 🤔

[@Benadryllionaire]

@@helgenlane no 4head... we need, and he's referring to, a well executed Adult Spiderman. One who's seasoned and capable and present for some of his darkest or most compelling arcs. The only one we really have is the original Spiderman 2 film centered around Otto. I am sick to death of awkward High School Peter, and a fledgling Spiderman who never truly accomplishes anything significant completely on his own merit. Spiderman is a hero eventually strong enough to be an absolutely crucial player in the Civil War comics, and becomes one of the most reliable Avengers for a significant period. Don't get me started on how well Back in Black and Kraven's Last Hunt would do if executed even halfway properly.

[@Nite-cq1fj]

He was only in high school for four years in the comics. Who else remembers the 90's cartoon spidey and friends?

[@handsomesquidward5160]

I'll admit I felt disconnected to this film after Endgame with all our original hero's gone.

[@shawklan27]

Same

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@Albert Jackson Well the latter part of your comment seems redundant, but them blackwashing another iconic white character is a crime. I keep wondering why white genocide is so okay to so many people.

[@michaelr1577]

Straight White Male the other groups have ironically developed a certain level of privilege that was manufactured by jews white women and homosexuals

[@britbloc123]

Peter: "I think you're pretty" MJ: "Soooo does that mean I have value?" FFS every woman in movies is written like this now.

[@NS-xx1ze]

She was making a joke

[@Sasaroly]

Sad that you can't get jokes

[@HellfireComms]

She was fucking with him, fam. MCU MJ is a troll. No that's not a comment on how Zendaya looks.

[@britbloc123]

@@HellfireComms Her character was messing with him. But the scriptwriter wasn't. Writing the line off as a joke is a way for the witer to have a dig at white men while avoiding backlash at the same time.

[@bigman88george3]

@@britbloc123 how the heck does this line dig at white men specifically? You sure you don't suffer from a persecution complex?

[@aysechrystaka]

Good critiques you alchy especially the one about Peter realizing Beck is a fraud step by step would be much better structure .. mine would be - no trademark Spider-man quips - why do the people keep helping Beck after he threatens their lives - why doesn’t peter get more in depth on the science/ details of the dimension travel - peter is supposed to be smart but he does some dumb ass shit like giving Edith to someone he met 3 days ago

[@macmcleod1188]

For what it's worth, in my life I've known people with 1500 to 1600 SAT scores and when they got the wrong idea in their head they were wrong to the Bone because they couldn't ever even consider the fact that they were wrong. And when a sharp salesman or con artist got hold of them, it was really bad. Cuz all their brains and intelligence were turned against them. I agree it would have been nice if Peter had found some clues or there had been some foreshadowing in the movie for the audience versus stumbling on the high-tech gear which gives away the show.

[@yurihageshi8008]

This spider man isn't even spider man. Your description isn't this guy

[@yurihageshi8008]

Spider man, this one, relies to much on his magical suit to solve problems, not his brains or skills.

[@Anksh0usRacing]

Yuri Hageshi At the end he did indeed rely entirely on his skill not his suit.

[@macmcleod1188]

@@Anksh0usRacing and on his brains ( using shocking webbing to EMP the drones. ) The big thing I've read that I agree with from detractors is that he doesn't quip. Spider man always quips. They had that in Civil War and it's not here. Otherwise, this film was super satisfying speaking as a spider man fan for 35ish years.

[@spethmanjones2997]

Far From Home is basically just Incredibles: Vacation to Europe

[@mattfirestone1]

Just wanted to shout out and say I really appreciate your thorough breakdowns of movies. Thanks for uploading!

[@clarkeisaac4149]

Peter had glasses that could tell him everything about the person he was looking at and never thought to take two seconds to do just that before handing control over to Beck.

[@chars1239]

nah because peter’s just dumb lmao

[@aliw5894]

@@chars1239 because the plot would happen.

[@chars1239]

@@aliw5894 well yeah that’s how the plot starts but peter rlly gave the glasses to someone he knew for like 2 days.

[@battlesheep2552]

Im suprised he didn't do that and just have Beck brush it off as the him from this universe

[@porkflaps4717]

Drinker I have a dead serious request and I hope you are up for the task, sir. I am grateful of your generous use of the clip where everybody is lounging around in human feces and they are in no hurry to get up as the girl farts and everyone has a laugh. Can you please continue to use it whenever possible? It's just great. Thank you and cheers, mate.

[@HellfireComms]

I was pleasantly surprised by Far From Home. The first half is a bit slow but the build-up to the second pays off really well. Great casting for Mysterio too.

[@clawpublishing7256]

"Why didn't the train driver call the police...?" VERY NEXT LINE: "So he wakes up in a prison cell..."

[@JasonMcFly]

...we've all been there mate

[@ldmt1995]

Police find Peter sleeping in the train, deduce he is drunk and send him to jail. The train never actually stopped after clearly hitting a person.

[@jarrod752]

Based on what I know about movies and how you described this one... I've pretty much seen it now.

[@Silenthitman44]

Nope

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@Silenthitman44 Yup. Every Marvel movie is more or less the same. This was a good and fresh new theme in 2008 to 2014, but got stale afterwards. They peaked at Infinity War, and crashed with Captain Marvel and Endgame.

[@wackywoohoopizzaman0173]

@@TheStraightestWhitest personally I didn't like endgame but they didn't really crash considering it is now the highest grossing movie in the world even if they rereleased just to beat avatar so not so much of a crash but for actual fans of the comics and caring about characters and movies ir kinda dropped the ball

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@wackywoohoopizzaman0173 Yeah when I mean crash I mean more in the sense that it really was the endgame. The identity politics really started taking root there.

[@mrknarf4438]

This is nowhere close to Cap Marvel. This is a good movie, with great visuals and a fantastic bad guy, but a couple of poor choices. Critical Drinker is getting a bit picky here.

[@ElPatron42069]

None of these compare to the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man

[@yesnomaybeso8633]

Nothing compares to the Tobey Maguire movies

[@notjaysday]

I think the post-credits scene does explain the weirdness, though I agree it was kind of dumb. The FX were good, except to me, the scene of Peter in his suit with Aunt May, when he was speaking to the crowd, looked really bad.

[@jonathanbaker4361]

"Be more Capt., son." Beautiful.

[@whos-the-stiff]

Remember in the Spider-man comics when Peter used to be clever and could work things out for himself through analysis and detective work ? Now he's a passenger in a secondary Iron Man suit and MJ is the brains of the operation.

[@GeorgeMonet]

SJW writing.

[@DavZeugme]

@@GeorgeMonet No man ever benefited the help of their women. Oh fuck, wait, I just read a few things about some past American presidents !

[@Noname-ut1ye]

@Cat Mouth Remember when Spider-Man and Wolverine were sent to the prehistoric times and Spider-Man built a time machine from literally nothing to get them back in their own time? Good times.

[@ldmt1995]

Was the fat comedy relief from the Iron Man movies really that popular of a character, where people honestly asking for him? In all honesty I thought he had died in Iron Man 3.

[@louisduarte8763]

@@ldmt1995 Happy Hogan? Good point; IIRC, he's been dead in the comics for years.

[@safetymanjavier3297]

I went back and rewatched the Toby Maquire Spiderman movies. After being fed all these most recent terrible movies over the last half decade, It made me feel as though the original Spiderman movies were really good. :(

[@lordhellstrande7188]

Toby is my.favorite Spider-Man because out of the three more recent, I feel like he's the only one who played both Peter Parker and Spider-Man really well

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

I don't get the Tom holland hype or Zendaya hype either. both actors are boring as fuck in my opinion

[@lordhellstrande7188]

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 the Tom Holland hype is most likely because people think he's adorable...I got no clue with Zendaya

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

@@lordhellstrande7188 Lol. He looks like an eternally 15 year old adult and yeah Zendaya is boring as fuck. I think her being half cast and a former girlfriend to Holland is the only reason she gets a 2nd look.

[@lordhellstrande7188]

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 I guess Holland is like the kid from.Home Alone. If I remember right, he looked pretty much the same as he grew older and still looked like a kid

[@ShimaS-0079]

Alter ego make sense to me. Its just writing makes it silly. If i was a villain i would attack person family friends coworker to get to them if i know their identity.

[@heartysquid]

*cough* Norman Osborn *cough*

[@bicnarok]

Marvel started off brilliantly,,, but now they are going to fade. Endgame was the first nail in the coffin.

[@rorschach5510]

@White-Van Helsing what? There is plenty of good stuff in phase 1. Thats why they keep on refrenceing it.

[@scaccu]

just from the top of my head, and just in the later phase: Ant Man 2, Capt Marvel, Black Panther and, for me, even the two SM suck. Ragnarock and GotG 2 forgettable. IW apart (to whom EG was an ugly second act) the only decent MCEU movie of the last years is Doctor Strange, even if as always its villain was weak af.

[@matthewsmith3078]

Was a good run

[@RantRadio]

Avengers 1&3, Cap trilogy, Iron Man 1, Ragnarok, Guardians 1 and Ant-Man are the only ones I watch regularly.

[@emile1365]

I think you mean Civil War, What a contrived and disjointed film. It barely made any sense, it was too focused on "the wider universe" instead of having a contained and fulfilling story to tell. Between that and the fact that Marvels "wider universe" doesn't seem to factor into the storytelling, I say goodbye to over-hyped rubbish.

[@donz6211]

"That's also why my urine glows to this day" 🤣 that killed me.

[@waltercomunello121]

When you think that Nick lost his eye in a fucking gunfire or a head blade stabbing gone wrong in some kind of ill-fated diplomatic discussion between world superpowers. No, it was a fucking cat.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

It's also canon-breaking. He says in Winter Soldier that someone he trusted betrayed him, maybe related to his storming of the embassy in Bogota that he's talking about with Herr Redford. So yeah, by their own canon, the scratch is bullshit.

[@raekm]

That's how much credit I'm giving Marvel now, I'm watching spoilers before deciding to go watch the movie, just like I did with Batman vs Superman

[@ameykulkarni7491]

I hope you don't do the same thing with No Way Home, because that movie is actually worth spoiling... Unlike FFH.

[@dennisbythewood4785]

Dear critical Drinker sir, please don't stop making videos. Regardless to whatever happens to cinematography in the wake of the ongoing virus that creates delays and shuts down movie theaters. Your breakdowns criticisms and your praises are so valuable as you articulate them so well. It makes opinion seem irrefutable, but it is based on facts and the relevance of the bassist of criticism or praise is always justifiable and explained. You truly understand The Art of Storytelling especially as it pertains to cinematography. I can't wait for more videos as I continue to binge-watch what is already on KZbin. I don't often watch a lot of new movies I have hundreds of VHS and maybe less than a hundred DVDs. And I love that you understand the difference between a box office hit and a literally well-made movie. Anyway I'm going to watch more of the videos you've already done and despite that it's 5 in the morning I'm going to continue to drink this bottle of cheap alcoholic eggnog. Maybe I have a problem... Or maybe it's a solution... Or to quote Homer Simpson, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems. Stay safe wear a mask wash your hands, we can't have our favorite drinker getting sick now. Cheers mate.

[@conot4006]

I love the brutally honest reviews but always come back for the one liners! “Her jokes bomber hard then the US Air Force.” Critical Drinker 2019

[@marbellaotaiza801]

"面白くない" "Nicht lustig" "није смешно"

[@samuelschwager]

Peter Parker and MJ had no chemistry in this movie. They might as well have just left her out. She's probably the kid from one of the producers...

[@ethandalton6480]

It's almost as if they're awkward teenagers...

[@chars1239]

but i honestly don’t understand where peter liking mj came from. In the first movie, he showed 0 attraction to her. Then boom, in FFH he suddenly wants to be with her.

[@hokagemoves2602]

@@ethandalton6480 its almost as if a movie

[@oreo1749]

@@hokagemoves2602 almost as if a movie what?

[@harrambou9468]

@@ethandalton6480 me and my gf had a lot more between us than the writers telling me to suddenly like her as she continued to degrade me in an unsexy and unattractive way

[@ScreenTalker]

I just love how they pass over the fact that people that were on airplanes during the snap would have been snapped right back into the same position they were in.... 👍

[@joshwah1120]

They didn't. When Hulk snapped, he also wished for everyone to be brought back safely.

[@ScreenTalker]

@@joshwah1120 then I must have missed the part where that said explicitly.

[@redbearington3345]

@@ScreenTalker it hasnt been in the movies, but it's also really stupid for anyone to think Banner would snap people back into positions that would kill them.

[@ScreenTalker]

@@redbearington3345 🤪😜🤪🤡

[@KurtAngle89]

Nah, why should it?

[@joabthejavelin5119]

SpiderMAN is on a teen or kid. He starts as a teen for a bit, but most of the stories from the original comic (like 95%) he's a MAN; as in an adult. I'm sick of teen movie Spiderman, like seeing Batman's origin over and over again. Boo MCU. It sucks.

[@KwabzModding]

The MCU takes more from the ultimate comics than it does from the original, ultimate Spider-Man was one of the most popular and influential runs with a teen Spider-Man, what the mcu did to make people sick of it was giving him all the help in the world and making tony stark uncle Ben.

[@shell2835]

Same! Im over the teen drama crap which for the most part is so unrelateble. Would much prefer to have an adult spiderman

[@joabthejavelin5119]

@@KwabzModding Call it "Ultimate Spiderman" then. Another popular and influential run was the original.

[@bronzantilium7699]

Agreed. I grew up reading Spider-Man who was a guy in his twenties and battled Hobgoblin who was killing people left and right. A more mature Spider-Man who thinks things out and uses his intellect. Oh wait that’s the last thing that’ll appeal to Disney/Marvel ‘s global audience.

[@rosselliswilkinson]

My favourite spider man story is kravens last hunt.I grew up reading spider man aged in his 20s and 30s back in the 80s.I only read the teenage spider man as reprints of the lee dikto days.i much prefer spider man as an adult not a teen nerd.Marvel writers of the comics grew the charcter he even got married.

[@likenot3073]

The mass of drones in final fight was the most Marvel thing ever

[@daywalker3735]

It was so boring to me

[@LadyDoomsinger]

To be fair, in the MCU world-ending threats to humanity is pretty much a weekly occurrence, so it kinda makes sense everyone is like: "Nah, it'll be fine."

[@tonycrabtree3416]

Zendaya is a terrible actress.

[@tobiasthuresson7270]

Total Harvey girl.

[@samg4337]

She's underwhelming in these movies but she's incredible in Euphoria.

[@diegoviveros556]

Zendaya is a pretty good person actually, the character of Mary Jane is just awful

[@kevintanza6968]

@@diegoviveros556 Zendaya being a good or bad person means jack when it comes to her performances as an actress. As far as Mary Jane, well, she is a character with many dimensions and who has become one of Peter's main pillars as a character, plus she has her own desires and agency. Zendaya's MJ is just an annoying one-note character.

[@diegoviveros556]

@Tom Cat THE CHARACTER OF THE MOVIE! MJ in comics is pretty solid and hot, in far from home they force her to be this witty brat

[@djapotomous1531]

The spiderman movies feel so childish I can't stand them :/

[@kevintanza6968]

Same here. Even at teenage level they feel childish. They behave like twelve years old.

[@masonmackinnon952]

Michael Keaton was sick tho

[@ChucklesProduction1]

Mason Mackinnon Good old Spider-man...

[@gamebond6248]

Ok boomer

[@resikin]

That's true, at least the Raimi films tried to be intentionally goofy at moments, here it's just the overlaying mood throughout the entire film without even trying.

[@Thundarius]

He is Iron Man Jr. He isn't Spiderman.

[@Recken1]

I haven't watched this movie yet, but I watched this whole review because somehow I don't think it will matter that I've seen all these spoilers. Movies suck these days.

[@Maladjester]

The real explanation for Mysterio makes good sense, and the fights against him are top-notch. Everything else, ehhhhh.