Thank you Ed Crothers ! With the way horses heads are pulled from a young age, and ridden by people of different weights and capabilities, it's easy to imagine many issues with neck , muscle and spinal pain for them. Thank you SO much for raising our awareness to always rule out pain if there are behavior issues. I don't have a horse right now, but I love them, always have always will, and I 'll pass along your name and KZbin videos. I love your patience , your eagle eye for diagnosing and way of communicating with horses. They trust you. It's beautiful to see. I hope you're teaching at Vet Colleges . Where did you learn your acupressure/spinal manipulation techniques ? Please, for the horse's sake and people who love them, write a book !
@soonermimi536 жыл бұрын
Absolutely astounding! LOVE your philosophy. It works! No pressure no violence no whips.
@john-dt6bq5 жыл бұрын
Sooner Mimi and no idea!
@narniagirl4ever2487 жыл бұрын
I am no horse woman, but I really love horses. It is wonderful to see the knowledge of horses advancing. First, there was the wonder of 'the horse whisperer' and now this! An amazing contribution to the welfare of horses. I hope this knowledge becomes commonly practiced.
@carolv84506 жыл бұрын
Beautiful horse.
@seoconsultingwa71325 жыл бұрын
I like the video of finding where she was sore. But trying to pull her into the trailer when she has decided to brace herself against the pressure on her poll is pretty hard. She needs to be trained to walk on command when you point her in the direction you want her to go. That's when they will self load.
@kimb75435 жыл бұрын
Really cool video.
@JJhaze3 жыл бұрын
Omg Ed, if you pushed my horse's back end like that he'd kick your head off... Chiropractor is coming this week... He's mean as a snake at the moment... Bites, kicks people.. Won't move forward.. Bucks under saddle... Loads pretty good though...lol?? Hopefully we can get him fixed... He wants to be good.. I love him
@angeliasapp81205 жыл бұрын
AIRPLANES ( LONG BODY LOGIC) DO NOT FLY LIKE HELICOPTERS YOU GOT SAVVY "MR. ED" GOOD JOB 🤗
@dmagac9264 жыл бұрын
Halter , 25 $.. chiropractic bill ,,95$....patience and time..priceless ..
@edcrothers20815 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for all the kind words and people like you is what make the equine world a happy place thank you
@bruceschmitz19847 жыл бұрын
This pain finder methed is a sweet invention by him and we all need to take heed
@Leolioness444 жыл бұрын
The pressure point clicker finder in the same for Humans in chiropractic Care. Released pressure always 🙌 gives me relief.😁 Great video
@keerastover53174 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to have seen him do it with the original halter. Not saying it was all because of the halter. Would have been a better demonstration. He seems good and patient. From what I've seen of him he has a good understanding of horses. Plus the second time around was a totally different technique.
@baskervillebee57485 жыл бұрын
If you leave her food in the trailer everyday and just go away, she'll train herself.
@elnomareeves44015 жыл бұрын
Baskerville Bee that’s exactly what we did with my mare. We fed her in the trailer and now she can’t wait to get in there.
@audreyehrman78865 жыл бұрын
No people to worry them, hence less fear. Fix the fear of people issue-ie people cause that, and all training goes smoother.. less is more and slower is faster...
@bruceschmitz19847 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert so I'm learning from this guy he is good and patient
@thecrothersway7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@west.h30306 жыл бұрын
Im glad your kind to the horses, but thats not the correct way to load a horse in my opinion. A few things i spotted were the fact that when your loading, you were in front of the horse which is blocking the horse. Also never stand behind a horse and push it, that can be dangerous for the horse and you. Another thing was you werent releasing the pressure correctly for pressure and release training. But the fact that your kind is great.
@sudburyhouse5 жыл бұрын
That must have been a defective ultimate training halter! Hahaha... perhaps a pink one next time.
@lisagast46166 жыл бұрын
Wow looking good cowboy
@asmera45477 жыл бұрын
what an absolutely beautiful face!! she's a real beauty.
@bruceschmitz19847 жыл бұрын
I think the pressure point halteris a great idea and the object is to get her to come in with the pressure on the pole possibly a thinner pole strap ?
@thecrothersway7 жыл бұрын
Thanks For your input Bruce. You make some valid points. I urge you to give buy an ultimate halter and give it a try. I promise you wont be disappointed!
@audreyehrman78865 жыл бұрын
Don't need pressure points.. it takes less than 5 minutes to teach a horse to yield to the slightest pressure.. if they trust you, they'll try.. quit with the pulling
@StuckInNy7 жыл бұрын
Great Job!
@bruceschmitz19847 жыл бұрын
I have dealt with this issue many times patience is a must try thinking like a horse remember pressure and release eventually they go and never an issue again (well maybe )
@nebraskafarmer90157 жыл бұрын
Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing hard. Reward the littlest of tries with immediate relief from pressure. So long as she moves towards the trailer she doesn't get swatted on the rump. Any, attempt to back away from the trailer or to just stand in the door results in annoying swats on the butt. She will soon figure out that relief comes from getting into the trailer. When your idea becomes her idea, she will willingly get into the trailer, calm and relaxed.
@winddrinkerarabians7 жыл бұрын
I'm 62 years old 5'2" 130 lbs woman. I teach every horse to ground drive. When they won't load, I drive them in with long lines.. try it.
@josephinestecak49457 ай бұрын
I think they should have walked her around to unwind from the treatment and trailer loading first, not straight away try pulling her into the trailer!
@KumiKotara5 жыл бұрын
How'd you get Johnny Depp to be in your video ? !! ;)
@jefferyschirm41037 жыл бұрын
Been wasp stung in a small two horse tra been there
@mandyc10917 жыл бұрын
I like this guy but he really disappointed me in this video. He knows pressure and release. But hear it was pressure pressure no realise. He used her pain as an excuse for his incorrect way of trying to load her. Soon as he took pressure off by trying to drag her in and allow her to suss it out herself out she worked it out and went in. Trying to pull the horse in was to promote his halter . But the horse showed him up. For a good horseman he did a lot wrong by this horse. She doesn’t want to load with the person in front of her and pulling on her neck
@bebo55585 жыл бұрын
Mandy, I really think you need to watch the video again, when he was "pulling " on her, to teach her, it no longer hurt. He finally took the pressure off, when she could see passed the pain and try to complete his request and make an attempt to load. It takes that pressure, to get her over, the faults memory of pain, he did no wrong by this horse!
@shawnleeriley27265 жыл бұрын
beautiful girl
@horsenaround3437 жыл бұрын
Why does my mare, who loads perfectly, kick at the wall behind her in the trailer. .often while I am trying to close the partition in our slant load trailer? She will kick sometimes the entire ride and whenever she is locked in a stall too.
@baley97745 жыл бұрын
Just in case the mystery horse is behind her......she is trapped, you know.
@angeliasapp81205 жыл бұрын
Load the Parelli way + know horsenalities, PLEASE. your idea become her idea. WHY EVERYONE HOLD LEAD ROPES SO CLOSE TO THE SNAP ?? WATCH 👀 99% HORSES WITH HUMAN PROBLEMS Thanks for fixing her touchy spots
@earlhill88647 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced Ed Crothers knows much about horses, not saying hes totally ignorant .
@john-dt6bq5 жыл бұрын
Earl Hill oh earl go ahead and say it. He is totally ignorant! Lol
@baley97745 жыл бұрын
Wrong..Wrong Wrong.....loading training does not start at the back of the trailer. It starts in the round pen or paddock with ground training..... getting control of the horse's , feet and mind.....getting respect as the herd leader.....geeez ....She didn't want to go in because she felt more comfortable in the barn. There's a whole in her foundation work. Go back to groundwork training. Meant to say hole...there is a hole in her foundation work.
@edcrothers20815 жыл бұрын
saying wrong wrong wrong you need to pay attention to what you have written this horse has pain issues as why she didn't load going to the round pen on a horse has been loads of five to six hundred times in her life and hauled all over the United States for showing and writing does not need more training so you need to watch this video so you understand that it hurt to source to get in the trailer and after we adjusted in the pain went away the horse loaded so you need to watch the whole video before you give advice this horse has been loaded for years and this was cause it hurt to get into why she didn't get in there don't need no training round penning so watch it again please wake up people quit trying to fool with horses that are in pain they try to tell you just listen and watch
@baley97745 жыл бұрын
@@edcrothers2081 This horse did not load because she did not respect the handler....the guy in the red hat. Period. You couldn't get her to load even after you did your "pain remover trick". So, if pain was the issue for not loading, why did you put a pressure point halter on her? Why did you push to horse sideways causing her to lose balance if you felt she had pain issues? Pressure point halters create pain and the horse moves forward to get away from the pain. So, finally after you pulled and pulled on her face ,she did load. Next, you taught her to turn around and exit the trailer. She caught on real fast you were going to let her get back out so she did start cooperating.I am surprised you both were not kicked by this horse because you both did nothing but annoy her. You stated the horse has been loaded 500 to 600 times ...I'm calling bullsh*t on that, too. She may have been loaded that many times by someone else, but I doubt it. I don't know too many 8 year old horses that have been loaded that many times. When a horse refuses to load, don't lead the horse away from the trailer. That is called REWARDING the horse for refusing. What the handler should have done was put the horse to work with some ground work exercises....right there behind the trailer ...moving her hips and moving her feet on a short 6' lead rope. But first, the handler, who I suppose is the owner, needs to put some ground work training on the horse. That needs to be done before ever attempting to load any horse in a trailer. I suggest watching David Lee Archer-True to Your Horse Horsemanship. He has some very good videos on ground work and getting control of the horse's mind by moving the horse's feet. WINNING!
@LightLynne5 жыл бұрын
@@baley9774 I agree, again. This video was nonsensical. If the horse had pain issues, she still didn't load after the "treatment." Pulling on her and pushing her around was counter productive and pretty obviously NOT how you get a horse to load. The whole deal about pushing from the back end and almost dumping her on the ground was ridiculous and dangerous for the horse! Nearly messed up her legs against the trailer. Dang! She's not the biggest horse, he wouldn't fair so well with a 1200 lb. horse. Move those feet! Take her to the round pen and get her to respect you. Sweet horse, just needs a little respect.
@audreyehrman78865 жыл бұрын
Ed's right, she didn't need more training.. but Ed needs to explain his whys more clearly. Pulling on a horse invokes resistance.. pressure and release needs to be very subtle.. maybe Ed exaggerated it so newbies could see it clearly.
@suziequigley30766 жыл бұрын
I stop..she stops, we get help?
@audreyehrman78865 жыл бұрын
Horses resist pulling.. notice he had to ask from the side then she'd load and then he could ask by leading in front. I wish he'd explain that so people would know DO NOT PULL on your horse.. they will always pull back/resist.
@helenhein53745 жыл бұрын
That horse just don't want to go into the trailer and it doesn't like it
@reflexology52welsh486 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@Brucether7 жыл бұрын
Sure that's not a mule? LMBO!!
@bruceschmitz19847 жыл бұрын
About this time oats would be introduced just to see if she climbs in only this time no more and I have had success ( oats of her fav only this one time)
@REBECKAJO506 жыл бұрын
If you understood horses you would have realized that as soon as you stopped standing in front of her she was willing to go into the trailer. It had nothing to do with anything you talked about. I hate to say this but you need to learn horse psychology. I do hope you go to the channel here on youtube called "THINK LIKE A HORSE." The author of this channel is Rick Gore and he is great at horse psychology. He can teach you why horses do the things they do and why it has nothing to do with what you talked about here in your video. That poor horse did not want to load while you were directly in front of her. As soon as you moved out of her way she had no problem loading. I hope you will review this video so you can see what I say is true. Please start watching Rick Gores videos so you can understand horses better and so you can see why you are so wrong about so much. God Bless.
@john-dt6bq5 жыл бұрын
REBECCA ANDERSON you tell him Rebecca!
@xdulceguerax5 жыл бұрын
I also immediately said "You're blocking her! Where's she supposed to go???"
@john-dt6bq5 жыл бұрын
Kerstin Fry you cant tell this guy anything! He spends more time talking to people trying to convince them of things than actually doing anything! He has responded back to some of my comments but never addresses any of what I say. He’s a corn fed fraud! No horse sense at all! This video has to be one of the worse I’ve seen!
@xdulceguerax5 жыл бұрын
@@john-dt6bq I haven't looked much deeper than this video, but I'd say it's not a good promotional piece. The part I liked best though was where he was going to push/lift the horse into the trailer.
@xdulceguerax5 жыл бұрын
@@john-dt6bq I do hope you realize I meant favorite as in 'most entertaining'
@TruthArrows7 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of how Hollywood and film in general can contribute to racial stereotypes and other ... behavior. The rest of it.... I really do think she's afraid of the trailer. She has to step up where she can't see and her first foot in slipped... why so surprised?
@bebo55585 жыл бұрын
I'm 60yrs old, I have a bad back, I don't like steps ether, but I can walk all day long! She's NOT afraid of the trailer, she's afraid to lift her leg, it pulls on her neck!
@mareefrench26614 жыл бұрын
Are serious... never ever use a halter like that. Never use whips. Never pull a horse forward facing it . This is stupidity. Hitting it will not help either. All you need to do is lead the horse up facing the trailer, next a person behind her with a whip that has a flag on it and flap the flag to make it uncomfortable outside the float, until she walks in and finds comfort insde the float. Pain issus are not the problem, learn natural horsmanship. Pressure points my arse. Youuse a halter on yourselves andsee if you get pain.
@john-dt6bq5 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me!! I’m embarrassed for you brotha! I think it’s her left ear pain that’s causing her to not want to load! Lol...That halter is nothing more than a brow band on a regular halter. There are no pressure points on the brow band. Wtf you talk in circles with delusional visions of grandeur! My third video. It just keeps getting worse!
@edcrothers20815 жыл бұрын
all I can say is you are a very funny person if you watch the video you would see the buttons on the inside of the halter bra band is just hold a halter in place but I see that you didn't watch enough to understand it and it works I use it every day at the farm help me so much also for cattle and then have people get it on there that are really jealous until you try it you can't really knock it but that's okay all I can say is I've said before I will pray for you and hopefully God will fix your jealousness and the biggest thing is just trying to help horses and try to help people to help horses and then we have people like you that get on there and has nothing good to say but that's okay you have a nice day
@edcrothers20815 жыл бұрын
also see you in this dress up like The lone ranger and Tonto I forgot to mention the horse that was in the movie we had and we also did some training before he went and did the movie The lone ranger the new movie so that's why we're dressed up just want to let you know I'm praying for you
@john-dt6bq5 жыл бұрын
Ed Crothers thank you eddy
@john-dt6bq5 жыл бұрын
Ed Crothers hshaha
@john-dt6bq5 жыл бұрын
Ed Crothers I’m sure you’re a great guy. I appreciate your intent but really dude? How do you sleep at night! It must be exhausting keeping up this facade! Or maybe you actually believe that you are actually doing something. Every horse you look at has 10 to 13 areas of pain! Lol ridicules. I have never once seen you check the spine you just poke and run your pain finder down there throat! You have no finesse with horses they all dance around and pull away from you because your like a predator jumping from place to place grabbing their faces etc... I mean seriously dude not every horse you see can all have the same issues of pain! Educate yourself before trying to sell yourself.
@REBECKAJO506 жыл бұрын
Please stop pulling and pushing on her.This is no way to get a horse to do anything! When you pull on a horse they will always pull back. This is their nature and this is why pulling a horse in an attempt to get them to do anything will never work. Pushing her the way you did just frighten her and a scared horse is a dangerous horse and it too is no way to get a horse to do anything. I was so afraid you were going to cause her to rear up and hit her head on the roof of the trailer. If that would have happened you would never get her in a trailer and she may never be able to trust you as her leader. Before you ever ask your horse to load into a trailer you should have been working with her daily to create a bond of trust and to help her to understand you are her leader. Once a horse has that bond of trust with you and knows you are her leader she will go anywhere you want her to go and she will do anything you want her to do. Trying to pull or push her into that trailer is absolutely the wrong thing to do. That is no way to create a bond of trust with your horse. Try going to a channel called "Think Like a Horse." This guy really knows horse psychology and he will be able to help you learn how to create that bond of trust I speak about. He also has a website and you can find lots of info and videos on how to load a horse and why you first have to have that bond of trust. He has two horses that do absolutely anything and everything this guy asks of them. He even lets his horses lose into his yard while he is doing yard work or any time he has to be outside and they never go out of his yard. He and his horses are truly amazing.Hope you have an open mind and can accept my criticism for I am just trying to help both you and that poor horse. God Bless You!
@baley97745 жыл бұрын
Although not impressed with the think like a horse guy...always works horses he knows....not someone else's horses....your first 10 lines or so was 100% correct.
@LightLynne5 жыл бұрын
Once in a while, Rick makes a good point. Personally, I don't think Rick is so good with his own horses. Mr. T is flighty and runs off weirdly even when Rick is on him. Pushy horse. Bucks when he wants. Doesn't stop safely. And T is filthy most times. Too often there are flies bothering them. Mr. T gets hundreds of fly bite bumps all over him. I'm sorry, I think Rick likes his own voice too much and just gets carried away. When he was messing with foals he was absolutely wrong to hit them when their heads were through the fence. They hit their heads on the fence as they shied away from Rick. Really bad form. "Correcting" babies through a fence is dangerous for them. Plus, he had NO business playing through the fence with someone else's foals. Not reporting to the owner that mare who kept falling over was irresponsible. Who wouldn't find someone in charge so the could look after that mare?
@LightLynne5 жыл бұрын
@@baley9774 - I agree.
@jodyhuston15165 жыл бұрын
I think you're right, and yet … here's something more to learn and definitely to be aware of. Pain in your horse. I'd bet undiagnosed pain , with only symptoms being behavior changes, or even with no behavior changes, is rampant in horses. What isn't obvious we don't see, most of the time. Vets more often use pain meds than physical manipulations, which may miss the root of the problem. I saw in this and other Crother's videos, evidence of pain on palpation. I saw evidence of relief of pain after E.C.'s manipulations. I also saw his keen eye diagnosing areas of pain , apparent successful therapies (for the moment, anyway, I'd like some follow up) his good patience, touch and tone of voice . I saw horses trusting him , which is great, in my book. Always more to learn , right ?
@patriciaalexander64155 жыл бұрын
Poor pony, she needs to see a vet, not a self styled expert, had this before with one of my daughters ponies, suddenly we had dozens of so called experts offering advice
@ufoxfox43525 жыл бұрын
A self styled expert is a great category to place this guy in ,especially when the person doing the categoriesin is telling you this horse needs a vet ,,em I dunno if u know this but a vet can't do anything for this horse because it was a chiropractic issue ,,a vet would mask the issue with painkillers, but wouldn't fix it ,,only a chiropractor can do this ,and it just so happens Eds a chiropractor, self tought ,school tought its irrelevant, wats important is hes just fixed this horse , and had attended a vet,who couldn't as he told u at the start ,,So id guess ur either a vet urself and think ur gods gift to animals ,or ur just a gobshite with an useless opinion ,either way ur wrong,
@edcrothers20815 жыл бұрын
This was a horse that had already been seen by a vet this was a horse that had load hundreds of times did not have a problem if you watch the whole video you could see where we relieve the pain discomfort she had and once she realized it didn't hurt to get in the trailer she decided to load up and have never had a problem with her Loading up sense
@edcrothers20815 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that's not Johnny Depp that's his stunt double that definitely was great thanks
@edcrothers20815 жыл бұрын
My opinion on loading horse is the easy way is the right way thanks for message me
@edcrothers20817 жыл бұрын
The horse has a ulcer
@katherineburton17666 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the horse that kicks the wall? If so, how can you make a judgement like that without having seen the horse? Even a vet wouldn't give that answer without a physical. There are many reasons a horse would kick in a confined space, and it not necessarily be an ulcer. The fact that you would give that answer concerns me very much, as there are people that are taking your word as gospel, and will not check with the vet before treating for the ulcer that you said it was. If this answer was not for the above person, HorsenaroundinMaine Maine, and was for a horse that you know for a fact (ie has seen a vet and been diagnosed) please disregard this comment. Or, better yet, respond and tell me I am wrong, and why. Thank you