Method Mix-up | Teaching Our Main Methods to Each Other

[@sudhanvakashyap2980]

Roux: I know a bit. teach me ZZ: I know a bit teach me CFOP: I know the full thing and do not teach me

[@justaregularhumanbeing]

True

[@axolotl7486]

this is true becuz Roux is just more freedom version of CFOP but a bit slower and ZZ is just CFOP with no rotations

[@FaultyPhenomena]

@@axolotl7486 Roux is completely different from CFOP and there’d be no point to choosing a method if it simply was slower

[@axolotl7486]

@@FaultyPhenomena they have same F2L but modified with MU moves and If ZZ is faster for example why choosing CFOP? We cube cuz we want the fastest times, that's why CFOP/ZZ/Roux are here or we will be using the begginers method

[@FaultyPhenomena]

@@axolotl7486 Roux has the lowest move count and you don’t ever really need to rotate either. ZZ has the best ergonomics for its lack of rotations and not having to deal with spamming M and U moves. But CFOP has a more algorithmic approach like ZZ but it solves pieces at every step and is the best at reducing blind spots making CFOP have the best look ahead.

[@amagicaltwinkie2950]

The last time I was this early Petrus was a viable speedcubing method.

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

For some reason I read "Tetris was a viable speedcubing method."

[@quebeccuber2470]

@@harrisonmullins7099 lol no

[@alexshih3747]

@@harrisonmullins7099 I hate to say it, but it really isn't. Doing EO as its own step mid-solve is unacceptable in modern speedcubing.

[@redstone_tim]

@@alexshih3747 _cries in LEOR_

[@youcuber3017]

LOL

[@BayBerry1337]

7:30 when Phil started talking about putting fingers on all the edges I laughed so hard because that's exactly what I did the first week of ZZ 😂

[@YCChiou]

Me too!

[@scientiaestpotentia2007]

I’m just learnt about EO yesterday and I do this rn.

[@proxcuber4741]

How to become Phil Yu. 1. Wear sun glasses no matter what 2.wear v necks 3.Always have a bracelet 4. Crack random jokes randomly

[@dpcubing1521]

How to be PRO X CUBER 1.repeat random words repeatedly

[@speedcubingaccount4121]

@Alex Davison i love this

[@GTSCS27]

Use ZZ

[@Someonex017]

5. Use ZZ 6. Own The Cubicle 7. Name Yourself Phil Yu 8. Wear Backwards Cap

[@Skipszz]

I was expecting Rowe to just say "CFOP" after the others were thoroughly explaining their methods lol

[@origamipaperplanesandtanks8034]

10:39 Phil: What experience do you have with ZZ? Jules: I know it exists?

[@jscuber]

nice

[@aitbelaidbadr8347]

Hola JS

[@AlejandroVillate832]

Hola xd

[@TR-ul4rm]

a

[@davidhenao6810]

No me esperaba tu comentario por aca xd

[@Xomper]

Te sabes el caso bilingüe

[@_spineless]

finally a zz lover like me ( im one of the three people who uses and loves this method)

[@cheesebiscuit6453]

Me too (I'm one of the only 3 people who uses and loves this method

[@cheesebiscuit6453]

My EO line needs a lot of work

[@_spineless]

@@cheesebiscuit6453 same here

[@GeometryDashProgam3r]

@@cheesebiscuit6453 unless you're doing OH, Line is worse than Cross. EOCross is oo

[@rafaelhiro8967]

Where is fluffy alligator

[@oweeoh7895]

It's too complex

[@randomcubestuff3426]

@@oweeoh7895 i know this is a joke but the actual fluffy alligator is pretty simple fun fact

[@kerkare]

I don’t know probably because we were only doing big 3 methods

[@NachoKnight99]

when im bored i go back to watch your old videos, i use zz like phil and him teaching was amazing, good vid

[@xuananator]

That was actually really fun. I remember doing this with someone at one of my first comps with Top First vs V First on Pyraminx haha

[@KaelHitchcock]

I’ve been cubing for 6 years and have mastered a lot of methods. CFOP: ~14 CFCE: ~15 Roux: ~19 ZZ: ~13 Petrus: ~15 And quite a few more!

[@zucalucchelli2729]

Plz explain, would be interesting (:

[@pesudion4149]

Bro what the fuck

[@pesudion4149]

Ur so good

[@dominicyohankim2474]

and you still dont know what the beginners method is wow

[@KaelHitchcock]

@@dominicyohankim2474 I started by learning CFOP, I know LBL but prefer not to use it, I average ~22 ATM.

[@mozvi1436]

17:39 "Well I'm really nervous on camera I don't know if you could tell" *synchronous turning of heads towards the camera* 😂😂

[@josiahsims6333]

TheCubicle: Let us know if you watched it all Everyone: comment on everything known to man but that.

[@JerryHatTrick]

Jules teaching Roux: Roux is cool Phil teaching ZZ: EO is confusing get used to it Rowe teaching CFOP: Just get good

[@yBryan1]

I watched it all. And i let you know, like you aksed *now give me a heart phil*

[@josiahsims6333]

you are probably the only one to comment on what they said to comment on xD

[@corneesmit7205]

Phil! Can you make a updated zz tutorial? Things like “4-2 isn’t efficient use 3-1-3” are really use full. I’m sub 15 with zz

[@robosapien314]

That would indeed be interesting!

[@andrewtan881]

From someone who mains CFOP but knows all 3 methods and casually solves on the other 2 from time to time, nice

[@someone-nn8fm]

The Roux guy looks like if Kung-fu Panda Was a Sensei😂 Great video tho

[@florianzellmer8735]

Don't worry Phil! I am sure there are lots of more ZZ solver like you, including me

[@axolotl7486]

but you know the method not anyone uses Petrus, it is bad but it is a speed solving method

[@thecrystaltide3757]

Phil my guy these v necks are the absolutely

[@stubblycuber2729]

"3,000 Years"

[@OtroBot-eg9me]

Jaja Old 😂

[@DanielFitri]

Roux here✌

[@CH-rk7ww]

CFOP forever!

[@magnuschanduru6173]

Roux here😃

[@UniversodoCubo]

+1 like! Sucesso e feliz ano novo!

[@DJ-Art-Morris]

Ngl roux looks really fun. I'm pretty much ready to move on from beginners method because I'm averaging 1min now, and i think I'm just going to learn both roux and cfop at the same time for the next 6mo-1yr to see which one suits me best. Good video thanks 😁

[@M1kH477]

Hey i also use beginner method im thinking of learning cfop in a few weeks time

[@DJ-Art-Morris]

@@M1kH477 best of luck!

[@DeltaInsanity]

Did you stick with learning both? If so, which are you leaning towards/did you choose?

[@DJ-Art-Morris]

@@DeltaInsanity hey! Actually my mom passed away sometime right around when i left that comment and i think i really did not do a whole lot of cubing for a good while. Then maybe 5-6 months back i learned chess and that’s been my main hobby I’d say, so with all that being said i haven’t had much progress cubing. I somewhat recently learn beginners roux method from Kian Monsiour tutorial playlist. If you have trouble finding that let me know and I’ll send you the link to it. It’s really tough to say I’m stuck now trying to decide what to do. I feel like the thousands of solves i have with the layer by layer beginners method has really equipped me to move onto cfop since i already have been knowing f2l for a long time, but i also like that roux is more intuitive and less alg based and also Tps matters less with roux. So on the one hand i like the idea of moving forward with roux but I’m just so comfortable with layer solving I’ll probably just have to learn cfop and build on my foundations rather than basically start from scratch tbh. Sorry if this wasn’t much help lol

[@DeltaInsanity]

@@DJ-Art-Morris I'm sorry for your loss. Honestly I was just curious to know what the experience would be like to learn both roux and cfop at the same time. I was in a similar situation a bit over a week ago where I was averaging about a minute with the beginner method, and it took me about a week to get comfortable enough with cfop that my times were pretty similar. I'm slowly bring my average down now, with a PB single of 39sec.

[@Quiltfish]

Find some maniacs who mains Petrus, Mehta and belt(lol). Complete the set!

[@gopalkrishnan7324]

Belt sucks use sqaun method

[@ignDart]

@@gopalkrishnan7324dr lmao

[@VladutDoesSomeCubing]

"I ve been using roux for about 3 thousand years now" bro what💀

[@scottsaldivar8599]

I’ll stick to CFOP thank you verry much

[@russellwen1410]

It would be fun watching someone learn SSC/Domino Reduction

[@WooHesii]

4:10 what cube is phil using

[@jonahcubing9668]

It sounds the the rs3m 2020

[@WooHesii]

@@jonahcubing9668 it had weird center pieces tho

[@alanbarnett328]

TIL Rowe Hessler is smart as hell

[@cubernyc1882]

I was NOT expecting that outro song lmao

[@aalicuber2528]

which timers do you use

[@Vince0492]

I watched it all🙃

[@noahmelcher2184]

i watched it all. cool video

[@TSVerse]

The roux dude was the only one that actually cares about wearing a mask LOL

[@isaacfox2546]

Last time I was this early, the only method I used was to “just peel the stickers off”

[@GenTheSnail]

tf when you learn zbll and just start seeing them everywhere the zz gang is strong also definitely to flex these are the zbll cases that came up in the video (e: but everyone did 2 look instead): 8:05 anti sune bars: R' U' R U' R' U R' D' R U' R' D R U2 R 10:23 anti sune niklas: R U R U' R2 D U2 R' U' R U D' R 12:09 right U: R U' R U D R' U R U2 R' U R D' R' U R' 12:22 blueberry pi: R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R' U R' U2 L U' R U L' 13:15 sune bars: R U2 R' U L' U2 R U R' U2 L U R U' R' 13:37 sune shish kebab: R' D R' U R D' U R U' R' U' R2 U R U' R' 15:10 left T: L' U R U' L U' R' U' R U R' U' R U' R' 17:25 diag L: F R U R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R' U' F'

[@speedcubingaccount4121]

Pog

[@justaregularhumanbeing]

Sune shish kebab wtf lol

[@GenTheSnail]

@@justaregularhumanbeing thats what I named the case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. my recognition for the case notes a diagonal line, kinda like a skewer in a shishkebab. naming things silly things helps them stand out

[@jazzy8310]

with zz, if u wanna be serious, i think it is better to learn eocross eventually, but eoline is still better for oh

[@altrekzz9870]

It’s like the old saying goes, “all the best CFOP solves are ZZ solves”. Never underestimate the power of an EO cross.

[@randomcuber2821]

i watched it all

[@IfrazGalibRaif]

ROUX is a free method without f2l, but ZZ & CFOP is pretty same with with f2l and same last layer orient.

[@sweetysureka1573]

When will the sponsorship program begin

[@curiousNic]

Wdym IF you watched it all? Of course I did. Would be a shame to miss out on this quality entertainment.

[@KardTrickKid]

Lol this is so good! where is rowe teaching fluffy alligator smh

[@synergy9853]

Nice two pencils you got under your shirt Phil!

[@marcelotapia5685]

"I've been using Roux for about 3,000 years now" damn, unexpected 💀

[@Global_Cub3r]

now we need apb

[@ThatNoobInUrWindow]

Roux: I know don’t teach me Zz:don’t know at all teach me Cfop: I know don’t teach me

[@ardanish9451]

Roux team Right here ⬇️

[@KiWi220]

Here 🙋

[@-crazycat]

Here 2 years later

[@raleighrhoden6801]

i have been cubing for a year and i main gan 11m pro, and i average 18.37 do yall think that i am doing good?

[@enzosteiger8054]

Everyone goes at their own pace , but yes

[@DynamiCuber]

Are you putting the Meilong 3x3 on sale anytime soon?

[@gangadharbasa3557]

Sir what is the timer that u r using in the video?(in the iPad).

[@speedcubingaccount4121]

I think its ciao timer or five timer

[@richardng9872]

What is your pb. I average about 5-20 and I hope 1of you could also teach me special cases and tricks

[@CuberSong]

I am method neutral I can use any method crop roux or zz

[@folarindavid8202]

so cool phil

[@debatoshhazra7906]

Phil : I use ZZ so I didn't need rotation V Perm : Am I a joke to you

[@thitampham7304]

I use this v perm alg: R U' R U R' D R D' R (U' D) R2 U R2 D' R2

[@thecookieling8280]

R U D v perm my man

[@GeometryDashProgam3r]

R' U R U' R' f' U' R U2 R' U' R U' R' f R

[@orangnamamaz_malay]

A little late but my fav v perm is R U Fw ones

[@filipemtx]

Nah I just use y2 v perm

[@xbeatzzz5033]

First view First like First comment Love from India kerala ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@ultracubing5032]

Right when I was at my first competition lol

[@richardng9872]

I know the the roux zz and cfop. But I am not as good but I think roux is the best although I cannot do it very fast

[@alexandergustafson515]

What about petrus?

[@p3ngy21]

what cube is that?

[@rouxbnr]

Rouxers where you at

[@justaregularhumanbeing]

Here

[@blackbirdcuber3615]

I’m here

[@rouxbnr]

@@blackbirdcuber3615 is it your main method though

[@blackbirdcuber3615]

It is

[@punklejunk]

We see you💜

[@DZSRUBIKSCUBE]

I have learn all the method

[@crystallu3512]

could you guys put Dayan guhong v4 m parts on your website because I lost my yellow cap

[@amitadeshpande8474]

Row being faster than phil in zz be like

[@gamingwithashten3903]

When will you release the Qiyi timer

[@rainbowwdude]

I use CFCE...

[@badathive2281]

0:02 hey guys I’ve been using roux for about 3 thousand years now

[@letmethinkaboutit2460]

Nice.

[@ClumsyCuber]

I don’t know why everyone is surprised that Jules have been using Roux for 3,000 years. He’s a caterpillar. What do you expect?

[@speedcubingaccount4121]

Lol

[@cliffvoelker9276]

Jules ftw!

[@LukiTruki]

Interesting!

[@mattevans1643]

I love the learn OLL. Like hey man, my OLL is MUM'.

[@ethanjamesratunil3614]

The reason I don't use ZZ or ROUX is because I am not good at intuition

[@Chloe90125]

Phil can I have a gold star? I know g perms

[@jigszante4599]

Nice video

[@ChadBrawlStarr]

rowe is such a bad teacher and thinks he's him even though he looks like a discord mod that has never stepped outside in his life

[@TheRealCube_Quest]

Yeah he genuinely pissed me off

[@Hoco30]

No if the edges all orientaied and last layer cross skip than it's zz

[@taser1458]

why the roux method

[@thoperSought]

it's good if your spatial reasoning is better than your alg memorization, for example

[@taser1458]

@ThoperSought thanks

[@thoperSought]

@@taser1458 glad to!

[@zeragon7]

Haha this was great

[@nicodoff]

Me with my friends: C F O P

[@David-hh2wf]

Phil please teach zz please im despered

[@humanperson7198]

Phil’s M fingertricks physically hurt me

[@haroldbingus]

he uses blind fingertricks

[@prosperitycodm7569]

I always thought phil used CFOP

[@Camocuber]

its kind of hard to tell when your solving fast. cfop and zz look the same when executing just f2l is built different and when solving cross you orient the edges on the top bottom front and back layers.

[@prosperitycodm7569]

@@Camocuber True

[@anicleor3069]

Wait why was Jules wearing a mask and Phil ams row weren’t

[@octogintillion]

He does that on their streams some as well, I think he just likes wearing one, not quite sure if he has a better reason or not.

[@niharbellary8646]

Why tf are nude dp bots spamming the comment section?

[@infinitecubing1305]

They do that on my channel sometimes

[@willymangorsi4457]

Wait what phil is using ZZ

[@rosstheoddball4013]

I watched it all. Tbh, kinda made me sad :( My times are worse than the people who don't even do CFOP!

[@jackreiman6010]

Cfop isn’t that good, it’s just so developed that it’s become good

[@linuschristensen6181]

@@jackreiman6010 Okay, so cfop isnt good but it’s good?

[@jackreiman6010]

@@linuschristensen6181 yeah basically

[@GeometryDashProgam3r]

@@linuschristensen6181 CFOP isn't fundamentally good, it's just had 4 decades of development and optimization so the result is good.

[@thunderlyte3221]

Phil be trollin

[@duncanmccall939]

Or you could just use petrus

[@HardPasta]

Rowe Roux why?

[@MCFC875]

0:00 i have been using roux for 3000 years now. and guess what? im still not sub 10!

[@speedcuberashwin3385]

I didnt know Phil was using ZZ

[@dakookaburra8691]

0:01 wait... 3000 years!?!?!?!

[@bruce4139]

Phil: so what experience do you have with zz? Rhe other guy: I know it exists! (Says proudly)

[@DaddyJoks_]

WHERE TAO YU PETRUS

[@Emeraldpig52]

fun fact: its really easy to be color neutral with roux

[@pianoguy5413]

Do petrus

[@nyantunaung30]

Cfop solver is not joke 😬

[@tomaszrebiszcubing9469]

9 SECONDS AGO

[@jackreiman6010]

Where my Mehta users at

[@74cs.t.19]

We are everywhere!

[@adityarajchopra3887]

WE ARE WORLD

[@cuberstache]

We're here

[@GeometryDashProgam3r]

I used Mehta for live 3 days around when the server popped up. Cool method