Moyu AoSu V7: Best 4x4 of the Year?

[@SlimSim56]

When Antoine cantin posted his video about the triple track I personally didn’t think it would be that good for my desires for a 4x4. But the double track or whatever sounds like such a good cube.

[@Tj_Hay]

jeez the best cubes of 2024 video bouta go nuts

[@laiscube]

Never really liked Vin and MGC because of the size, so from 2019 until now I've been calling the WRM the best 4x4 while switching between 2 mains (which increased to 3 near the Vin's release timing when the Qiyi M pro came out). Qiyi M pro is 58.5mm good for the size but I have to mod it with ball core and spring compression, Meilong is good for the stability, Aosu WRM is good overall. Aosu v7 seems to overtake the reasons to use all 3 of these cubes. Hoping to get the triple track so I can clearly explain what the magnet layout really means.

[@ClockSolver]

but wouldn't the core magnets not work half the time due to the cube's mech?

[@luckycuber982]

The core magnets are a good enough strength that no, it would not be inconsistent

[@laiscube]

@@ClockSolver I think it affects blind-solving more than sighted solving, because of how slice-move heavy blind methods are. When you do a double-move like Rw or Uw, it is technically is no different from doing R or U in terms of core-magnet resistance, which is against 4 corners. But of course the weight of the middle layer may give some assymetry. When you do slice moves however, lets say the core is alligned to the left side. Doing a 2R would move all the second layer pieces without the corners, causing you to push through the piece magnets only, but no core magnets. Doing a 2L however, would move the core with it, causing you to push through the entire weight of the core, plus its magnetic attraction to all 8 corners, giving very high levels of asymmetry to the feel. Also, you can create a theoretical 5th version of the Aosu v7 by swapping the wings & midges between the triple track and single track versions, and you will end up with two double track Aosu v7s, one of which is the normal ballcore+piece magnets one that you can buy, and the other will have piece magnets + wing magnets without the ball core. The wing magnets will not face the assymetry problem that the ball core faces, when you do the slice moves. And on a personal level, I use Uw2 Rw2 U2 2R2 U2 Rw2 Uw2 as my PLL parity alg, and not 2R2 U2 2R2 Uw2 2R2 Uw2, which makes me even less affected by the slice move problem than most people.

[@ClockSolver]

@@laiscube true, but i like slice alg more, and for yau i sometimes do slices for centers

[@pedrojacintorodas9631]

The magnets of the triple track version are technically not extra magnets, they put magnet from the inner edges to the outers like in a 5x5. The system is good theoretically, but the small radius of the magnets makes them feel kinda weak and to get an adequate tactile feel, they end up being too strong. If you like strong magnets and don't like the repulsion bump of most 4x4s and 2x2s, it's good, but I think that they could've executed that idea in a better way as I have a Gts2 with similar magnets on the edges and it's possible to make them smoother and faster without losing stability.

[@zacharytrudell2411]

When did I unsubscribe? I thought this channel was gone but it turns out I got unsubbed somehow. Welp, hopefully I stay subbed this time 😂 love u guys

[@real_korali]

Wish JRcuber would still upload 🥲

[@Stabruder]

Same

[@herrreinsch]

what? he was the one talking the entire video, what's the difference other than the channel name. this is him, we liked to watch JRcuber because of him. and he edits the video too. every Cubicle upload is a JRcuber upload.

[@JoeBrowning-n9k]

​@@herrreinsch they mean on his channel.

[@herrreinsch]

@@JoeBrowning-n9k A channel is always about the person, never about the channel. and it's cubing reviews too.

[@DDHDTV]

cool, will wait for the full review, but will most certainly get this. I avg 55 on my MGC and I need a sub 55 official average to be eligible for the next continental championships :D

[@vrowniediamond6202]

Maybe its time for me to upgrade (from an original aosu) 😂

[@funkyluigi64]

My dad ordered this for me last week from the cubicle, and i am really excited for it.

[@Pizzastock]

my question is how good the standard ones are because the standard pricing is really good if good

[@vicasooo]

I haven't solved a normal 3x3 in 4 months, but been focusing just on 4x4. The Vin LBL is absolutely amazing. Before I get this, gonna wait for you guys to make it even better if possible lol the costum cubes at the cubicle are absolutely amazing. I'm gonna be patient hahaha

[@SBCuber64]

Can you do a 4x4 comparison video? Like maybe the MoYu AoSu, Vin Cube, YJ MGC, and X-Man Ambition.

[@garywarkentin8859]

Please do a everyone solves.

[@AS174-q8l]

what turning styles and preferences for the vin, double track v7, and triple track do you think they require? Asking jesse

[@GavstersCubing]

“When’s the next moyu 4x4?” Phil slams the 4x4 “oh”

[@Elliott-h8f]

Hello I saw your video about solving the Rubik's cube a while back and decided to practice some more. It was very in debt and helped me solve a lot of times. Still need help though. What happens when you only need to twist one corner into place. Every time I try the method I end up having to resolve it again. Can you help with this please?

[@Pizzastock]

wait what do you mean you only have one corner that needs to be twisted

[@kennychpgamingandorigami630]

i want this 4x4 so bad but my mgc speed micro actuator is still my main

[@DcubesOfficial]

can you guys make a vid on the new vin cube with core mags? i was thinking of buying both this and the v7 and was just wondering the difference before I buy it

[@mmax_19]

Took them 20 years to make a 4x4 but only 2 days for a new 3x3 lol

[@AS174-q8l]

can you guys make a video on the meilong 7x7 and 6x6 v2?

[@calmcuber]

this looks sick!

[@bgoglin]

Hmmm, was planning to buy the Vin ballcore but I don't know what do to now :(

[@fabiancalzadilla3730]

Please do Vin cube 4 vs moyu aosu v7

[@domingoanoite68]

And sponsorees just got a smart 2x2 and aouchuang v6

[@bekmurod_astanaliyev]

I am waiting for aochuang v6 5x5 review.

[@rodneytopor1846]

This is not a review, just an opinion from a nonexpert. I have the standard versions of the AoSu v7 4x4 and the AuChuang v6 5x5, and I think the the AuChuang is much better than the AoSu. The inner magnets of the AuSu are quite strong, making slice moves difficult and the cube blocky. All layers of the AuChuang are similar, and all turn quite freely.

[@wi1lowsm1th44]

Do I pre-order this or get another MGC instead...

[@Imanuel_Speedcuber]

So the dual track is the best?

[@adr1an278]

Wirst du dir den holen?

[@Imanuel_Speedcuber]

@@adr1an278 habe schon vorbestellt🤣

[@SBCuber64]

From all the videos I’ve watched on this cube so far, the consensus seems to be that the Dual Track is best.

[@nialyavuzturk379]

Is this better than vin starry night (vin v2)?

[@funkgremlin2765]

I’ve been using the 56mm zhisu mini 4x4 for quite a long time cuz everything else just feels huge and this might finally be the upgrade. Im still perfectly happy with the yj mini but I’m gonna get this for sure

[@ERTY43-jn8oi]

Yay probably gonna try

[@noah_cubez]

I'm still waiting for GAN's new 4x4!

[@failstoner2300]

its mid i tried it

[@StevenWintringham]

Don't wait for it, it's worse than both this and the vin

[@DcubesOfficial]

@@StevenWintringhamhow exactly is it worse? is the feeling bad or the cube itself just worse than the vin and v7?

[@StevenWintringham]

@@DcubesOfficial it's kind of hard to describe, but it just doesn't feel good and performance is nothing special

[@funkyluigi64]

dont wait for it gan 4x4 is kinda bad :(

[@sebg1542]

not me thinking imma bring my time down from 2 minutes with my wrm to 30 seconds with this cube

[@三世丸]

進撃の巨人Tシャツ！

[@JNC_Cubing]

Better than new vin?

[@MedMedmed12]

bro is a aot fan

[@WildScaryFox]

Is it better than the SteVin?

[@TheSiberian2458]

Yes obviously

[@Cubetechno1]

Hi Phil! I am a regular customer at your shop and I was wondering if you could sponsor me. LOVE THE VID BTW.

[@shortcatimposter321]

HELLO CUBE TECHNO!!! I AM SUBBED TO YOU PLZ GIMME A SHOUTOUT!!!

[@AI.Videos.officiall]

OMG ITS YOU!!!

[@AI.Videos.officiall]

@@shortcatimposter321 I AM CUBE TECHNO'S FIRST SUBSCRIBER!

[@Kingtechno1989]

😶😯😯😯😯😯

[@Kingtechno1989]

PLZ SHOUT ME OUT!

[@HoopsCuber]

First! I love these reviews I'm prob gonna get the cube too!

[@Jehodynamix]

Esperaba mucho este cubo!!! 🔥

[@rodneytopor1846]

I tried to save money and bought the cheapest, single-track, version, and now regret ny decision. The outer layers are great, but the magnets between the two inner layers are way too strong, making turns that separate these two layers too hard to start and making the cube feel super blocky. I hope the dual-track version is better.

[@atirta777]

I have both the single-track V7 and the Vin. I agree that the inner magnets are slightly too strong, however with a faster lube setup and loosening the cube a little, it is clearly better than the standard Vin also due to it's size imo. The outer layers are faster but also more controllable. Double-track will still be better of course.

[@Thanatos-ey5nz]

im very excited to order the v7, my 4x4 rn is so old and it sucks. It makes me not like practicing, ill definitely look forward to it.

[@adriangd5040]

i own an aosu wrm and i can safely say its good

[@Mr.RubixMan]

I'm so glad that you isn't copying everything gan is doing. Don't want another Gan 4x4 made that definitely is not my main

[@LevelUpCewb]

hey you realize there is a new gan 4x4 coming out and it looks good.

[@overjoyedbrass]

​@@LevelUpCewb when

[@LevelUpCewb]

no release date yet, but there are prototypes out already

[@aubreynyoni150]

Well Moyu take my money sub 50 average loading

[@gpcubing123]

Sub 8 hours

[@svcubes5516]

Literally about to by this cube get review btw

[@AveryHyena]

I wonder how the new Gan 4x4 will match up

[@huyongjie2992]

Price at taobao for the uv with 160 magnet (3 tracks) 4x4 is around 195 (lowest) Chinese yen.

[@Crobruh]

Moyu releases cubes faster than my internet

[@KeidonKelley]

Hello! If you see this, have a good day! Goodbye!

[@davehin399]

I wonder how the gan will top this

[@Cubetechno1]

I was THINKING THE SAME THING :) But the gan 4x4 locks up too much!

[@StevenWintringham]

It won't

[@Eistreemcards]

hi just orderd some cubes

[@HatsuneAmi]

Moyu randomly releasing a 4x4 unreal

[@tamagoegg5409]

進撃の巨人

[@Tree-cuber-]

hey can i get a sponsorship please??

[@Halledoo]

no offence but i think you might need more subs i think

[@WTF-Cubing]

“Glossy feels better than UV. We all know this.” -Jesse Umm… what?! 🤨

[@Judithoo]

All these magnets but still no maglev

[@dachiiiii]

UV coating is the biggest scam in cubing industry

[@ijlibg7061]

Not really , it makes your cube look good and anti scratch , idk why people say it's grippy , I got tornado v3 pioneer uv I don't feel and grippy feel

[@weirdfish09]

For moyu, yes. The price dif between Moyu v10 ai uv and non uv is super HUGE!

[@dachiiiii]

@@ijlibg7061 uv coating can get scratched just like regular plastic, and how pretty the cube looks has 0 attribute to performance, u said it exactly, its for looks

[@balintgalambos691]

​@@dachiiiiino, glossy plastic becomes slippery after time, the uv stays grippy. Uv coating does not degrade as much as glossy plastic

[@dachiiiii]

@@balintgalambos691 i have done over 20k solves on my tornado and it hasnt lost a single bit of grip or degraded, over 6k solves on dayan pro M - same story, over 7k solves on mgc 5x5 and 4x4 - same story, im not saying that UV will degrade, it will probably hold up just as good if not better than regular plastic but i have never had issue with plastic degrading, nor have ever come across anyone who has had that problem

[@ToushikaCuber]

12:32 3 three-mover F2L, well that's lucky.

[@Evagation2795]

Oh.

[@szefuśfloppa2115]

First

[@A_Glad]

I just got the Vin before this to

[@gryphey]

I legit just got the vin a week ago, and they released this

[@A_Glad]

@@gryphey they said it didn’t mandatory to switch anyways. So that’s good 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@gryphey]

@@A_Glad they thing is I kind of want to get ok cause of the 58mm size

[@kindadeadchannelngl8565]

Clicked faster than moyu releasing cubes

[@BoBaCuBe1]

Imma stick with the VIN

[@0Aquamelon]

stop this UV coated slander. UV coated > everything. (imo)

[@Anthony_Jiang]

I used to be like you, until UV coating cost me a Euros Finals

[@0Aquamelon]

@@Anthony_Jiang gotcha. I just think UV coating is the most pleasant texture cube can have, but I never tried it with super sweaty hands. Maybe I’d hate it with sweaty hands, idk

[@prymeg]

JESSE whos ur favorite AOT character?

[@thewillsta5882]

When I did the world will be better.

[@preranakumar3483]

keeping kids from saying "first"

[@Mr.RubixMan]

13:08 *cough* like the gan 4x4 *cough*