Holley Terminator XMAX on a Ford F-150!! First Crank!! KSR How To and Tech Tips!!

[@saddletramp6529]

Kevin your ramblings make more sense that 99.99% of the people in the world these days!! Keep rambling!! And thanks for the video on the Wizard tuning, for us guys that don't have high HP race cars!! I have in my head that my next project will get a Holley EFI system of some type...seems to be the way to go. Thanks as always for a very informative video!!

[@MrMice...]

For some reason, the pause and voice over around 4min mark gave me Dukes of Hazzard vibes 😊

[@bigbossimmotal]

Intro Police here. I ALMOST wrote you up for missing it again. Nice save! lol

[@waynehaltermanjr.4313]

4:pm Thur Is that my son Tad green Camaro up on rack

[@ldtenenoff]

Kev always teaching folks the right way to build cars bttr

[@jameswieser2857]

Love the walk thru, and thought process as to why you do stuff Kevin. Its educational and entertaining. Please keep up the rambling knowledge transfer, 😂!

[@dlshady]

I'm sure you've got it figured out by now, but the alternator not charging is probably because the original wiring backfeeds voltage through the charge light in the factory dash to turn on the alternator. I forget which color wire it is, but I put a Racepak dash in an 03 Cobra a few years ago and had to actually wire up a light bulb socket which hung behind the Racepak just to feed 12V back to the alternator to make it charge..

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

Yep, had her sorted by the end of the video ;)

[@dlshady]

@@KSRPerformanceFabrication Yeah, as usual, I commented before watching the whole the video. I'm good like that... 🤣

[@drjeep1971]

Thank you for the video. This Ford guy is happy to see Blue Oval content

[@bds598]

Look under the dash for a black box with a gray 7-pin connector. Disconnect it, tie that out of the way, and no more door, seat belt, or headlight dinging. Just don't forget to leave your headlights on, haha.

[@boredom.victim]

i always disconnected one lead on the back of the door button switch 😂

[@2hacksinashack]

The other buzzer/beeping noise is the airbag system. My mustang did the same thing. Drove me nuts. Should be a blue box under the dash.

[@erickbernard8208]

They NEED to give u a real show

[@bigbossimmotal]

God I hope not. Have you seen Derek from Vice Grip Garage? HIS vids are awesome. Then Motortrend did a show with him in it called 'Roadside Rescue'. I watched a few of them, total garbage, they edited out all of the Derek charm and VGG style. I hope VGG and KSR never stop making their own videos. They can make some short form for the kids who have zero patience, but keep making the good ones for the rest of us.

[@KenG....]

KSR for the win!!!

[@ianf2985]

Nice to see some other projects that the average owner can do too. Race cars are fun for sure. But we can’t all afford race cars. But to have some fun with our daily drivers, that’s more our speed.

[@metalted6128]

I put a 5.0 ho In a grand marquis wagon. Repinned the 60 pin ecmplug to run the ho motor, ecm. Before kits were available. Built the motor. The ho 5.0 had different fire order than the 5.0 . Of the mid 80s Mid 90s even the trucks used the new foreign order. I bleed ford blue, so it was a fun build. Quick car. In its day. Fun build. 300 hp ford wagon, Fuel injection, ho. Even ran a maf. System

[@ChrisSmith-ro3mn]

I’m literally building an almost identical f150 and 302 for it, tomorrow is the day I start to unbox and look over my terminator kit. Thanks for the video!

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

Awesome!!

[@JohnnyAnderson1]

how does it plug into the transmission?

[@wadepenick7922]

@@JohnnyAnderson1ever figure it out? I’m trying to hook up my aode and I can’t find any info

[@JohnnyAnderson1]

@@wadepenick7922 nope

[@JBNL1972]

that stylus you used with the Wizard looked like it came out of a Nintendo DS handheld. But that's a very neat tool to get an initial setup done!

[@justinpakarno4346]

By the end of the video Kevin transforms into a distinguished gentleman.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

LOL!! Had to shave, it was getting annoying.

[@vehdynam]

Very interesting and informative !! Much appreciated .

[@JaredR1996]

I live how everyone jokes about not working 🤣

[@rli1223]

Hey Kevin, that annoying beeping is the air bag control module freaking out that the original gauge cluster is gone. The Air Bag light should turn on for about 6 seconds when key turned to Run. If the air bag monitor module can not turn on the bulb, then the module will put out 5 beeps, then another 5 beeps etc. It's not a code, it is a warning that the system may not be functional.

[@robertchristy9883]

I've got a universal kit for a gen 1 small block chevy, coil on plug, duel sync distributor. Going to be an adventure. 78 corvette. Am freaking out a little. 😎

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

You got it!

[@mustangal8534]

I disconnected that crazy beeper in my mustang, would drive me nuts.

[@davidtornow203]

I like your new logo

[@picklesontheroad]

Thanks Kevin! You've helped me before at keeping my hotrod 460 (F-250 Country Cadillac) cooled down and I'm really grateful for that. I've been considering the Holley Terminator for my 89 Winnebago (with a 460 EFI). I really need more gauges and I'm not a fan of Fords ignition systems, that's why I've been looking in this direction. I'm also looking at a Gear Vendor to drop my RPM a little at highways speeds. Do they work well with the Holley systems? I've had many issues with headers for my Ford engines over the years. I think Headman has been the better choice, so far. $1200 on different brands that just didn't work out is a little steep! NOPE didn't get a penny of my money back... just donated them to my exhaust guy, maybe he was able to at least use some of the bends to help someone else out! YEP RACE CARS ARE FUN... even if it ain't a racecar!

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

Call us when you area ready to order your Holley and Gear Vendor!! The Gear Vendor will come with its own controller that it outside of the Holley system.

[@picklesontheroad]

@@KSRPerformanceFabrication That's my plan! Thank you for doing what you do.

[@E.T.GARAGE]

Thanks for sharing Tuning tech tips are always interesting even if the only thing I tune is OBD1 on Corvette. 👍

[@edwardcornell1263]

I'd installed an extra engine coolant sensor in my car in the hose going right into the radiator, the stock one is in the back of my motor. The distance between the two is like 18 to 24 inches. Until 180 degrees the two sensors match, maybe a degree off, but then the one closer to my radiator starts to get hotter then the one at the back of my motor. So on my engine, subaru has a coolant tube that brings the coolant from the back of the motor to the radiator hose. By the time the back sensor gets to 203 degrees, mine gets to 212.

[@russellridge8623]

Should have scrapped all intake up. Get Edelbrock Pro Flow 4 EFI system. That’s what I did with my 90 Bronco. Stroked 302 to 331. AFR 185, custom cam, headers. Zero emissions required here in Republic of Texas. 420 hp at 5950 rpm. Torque amazing. And all that factory and aftermarket crap gone. Nice clean modern EFI. Control with tablet.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

Holley EFI > Edelbrock ;)

[@PNW_Car_Mods]

Any time you pause the video, I'm like uh oh, something went wrong haha.

[@Juicejunkie409]

Kevin, when is the green car in the background coming on the video?

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

We juuuuuuust might have an update on that one pretty soon.

[@JohnThomas-vb9se]

I have an early Terminator X 937-F kit on my fox and it was designed to not use a crank and cam sensor, but the factory TFI module and PWM IAC. I hate the IAC and have been thinking about switching to a GM stepper motor myself.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

We have done a few using the TFI module, but the TFI modules seem to be unreliable and replacements are cheap Chyna junk so we started pushing the Holley Distributors.

[@troyadams1076]

Nice

[@davidowen888]

Oh Boy 🤷‍♂️ I'm so far behind been traveling but I'll catch up 😂 been traveling, gum flappin lol 😆 I dont see another video on this Ford 🤔☮️

[@michaelloth5870]

Keep the wiring neat and clean, routed nicely, solder and heat shrink tube all connections (No Butt Splices) and you will be fine. If your wiring looks like a birds nest, it's not going to work.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

Solder doesn’t belong in a race car!

[@JohnRoberts71]

Great content thanks for sharing

[@blakelovett3578]

Damn what’s the green beast on the hoist in the background 👀

[@omwtfym12]

Yesssssss!

[@rmurrs]

Its not that no one is building those old fords anymore...its nobody is admitting to it!

[@kingperfection1868]

Maybe its been mentioned but whats the 67-68 camaro for?

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

That is my business partner's

[@d.collier_8280]

So, did you video the dyno of this ford? I was waiting to see it.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

I did not end up filming the dyno session. I got behind on shop work and had to get it done and gone. It made 270rwhp in 2nd gear with the big wheels on it. We are supposed to get it back in a month or two to change the rear gear and roll it across the dyno again so maybe I can film that session.

[@d.collier_8280]

@@KSRPerformanceFabricationOkay cool. My motor setup is very close to this one. Only difference is I decided to go back to a carb and not use my terminator x

[@redren77]

Want to do a Godzilla swap into an early 90s F150.

[@rollerdragon]

22:11 funny, that... they say the same type of sour grapes crap at working on racing ev's.. you'd be amazed at the crap i get from mouth breathers... from one technology to the next, there has always been the 'stalwart, stick in the mud, it was better in my day' types... but we engineer our way out! THAT is hot rodding... ICE is just a powerplant, and an inefficient one at that... i watch for all your glorious welding classes, eer... uploads! no hub motors.. drive train as is, but w/ a motor not an engine... heavy, but fast

[@StickA-yd4fp]

Man my 95 extended cab chuggs gas. Plugged off the heads crossover tube. Removed the smog. Doesn't matter where I set my timing. She just likes to drink.

[@toddchubb3464]

You probably already know but if you don't unplug the spout circuit before adjust time it doesn't act right and remember to plug it back in

[@billb410]

Nice! Not a fan of X pipes of USA metal though. I could live with one if it's placement was tuned to actually make more power than a H pipe.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

In race cars, we science them to try and put them in the optimal location. For street cars/trucks, they fit where they fit.

[@billb410]

@@KSRPerformanceFabrication so chances are you end up with less or at best the same power as a H pipe on street cars.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

@@billb410 every car that I have installed an X pipe on has picked up power when I did a before and after dyno. This includes straight piped exhaust and cars that had an h pipe. Maybe we just got lucky the ones that we tested, but I feel like an X is better than an H the vast majority of the time.

[@garyrinehardt6985]

I have the same truck and I went with a 351w/408 Stroker. I am also using the same intake and upper plenum on that truck and I have mine on the other way. I have 3 questions. Did you have to modify the air filter box connector when you took the MAF sensor out to make it work? #2 I liked it's location of the fuel regulator and would like to know if he could fabricate another bracket going to other direction? Thanks for this video. I am still assembling my engine compartment and watching your video convinced me to go with the Holley Terminator X Max. Also did you have to upgrade the fuel pump? I would love to pick your brain on this truck to see if you have had any other issues. Thanks

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

We made a custom flange to adapt the air box to 3" tubing. We are going to be getting the truck back in to change the rear gear in a couple of weeks and could probably make up another FPR bracket. Call or message the shop and they can get the process started.

[@garyrinehardt6985]

@@KSRPerformanceFabrication Sounds great. Thanks

[@garyrinehardt6985]

Plus, Where did you get those gauges from? They looked awesome.

[@billmegnin9288]

I'm curious about the holley on a boat

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

We have tuned a few!

[@billmegnin9288]

@KSRPerformanceFabrication it's not a speed boat it's for a 30 foot cabin cruiser with a single 350 sbc. I'm looking for a little more power but ease of operation is my biggest want

[@Farmer_BR]

The Ford idle air control valves are crap. Is there a way to adapt the Mopar or LS using the stock computer?

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

I do not think there is

[@InnocentMiscreant]

The factory sendors are running the cluster are junk the oil pressure is more of a switch for a dummy light than a gauge

[@JohnLittlepage]

Any dyno sessions in the future?

[@GrifFungin]

Can you see the ac clutch? Yeah I see it 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

LOL

[@Juicejunkie409]

And specially, those programs are not made really to make high high horsepower like that

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

I mean, I have tuned over 1500hp with an XMAX.....they are very capable systems.

[@funfun8095]

👍

[@jdinnis]

You lost me there, I could not hear a word you were saying over the YELLOW MONTE CARLO in the background....

[@earlrichardson385]

KZbin would be a lot less interesting if people read the instructions first😂.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

LOL, truth!!

[@70sAirForceBrat]

Question for Kevin. Have you ever built a race car using propane as the fuel?

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

I have not

[@70sAirForceBrat]

@@KSRPerformanceFabrication would it even be allowed under the rules for 1/8 or 1/4 racing? Because propane is a high octane fuel @ 100 to 105 and it burns nice and clean.

[@Recon03]

You shaved!

[@jani_kahkonen]

That beard, are you going santa or did not find right tools?

[@michaelpowell9164]

Oh boy this grinds my gears. I asked your shop to help me with installing a Holly Sniper system in my 1994 GMC 454ci dually because Holly listed you and another shop as official installers. You told me nope, you have a two year waiting list. TWO YEARS! Well the other shop totally screwed the install up. My truck sits in the driveway now because it's not driveable.......thanks KSR. My money wasnt good enough for you.

[@ronjones-6977]

Naw, your money is good, it's just your shitty attitude that's the problem. Props to KSR for dodging that bullet.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

Well, this project was on the books before you inquired and they waited a whiiiile to get in. We are a small shop and have a huge amount of people who want us to do work for them and we do our best to get through them all. There is no need to be mad at us just because we could not get you into the shop in a time frame that met your expectations.

[@indianaslim4971]

I think your problems are the result of poor communication and un-realistic expectations, first off they are installers, not "helpers of the customer", secondly having a two year waiting list is no way, no how the same as not wanting your money, sounds like they dodged a bullet by not working on your truck..

[@MadsWorld34]

i don't know Kevin. i think you may have crossed the line now. putting a nasty chevy part on a ford. i'm finding it hard to forgive you over that. but i will say a prayer to the car Gods for you.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

LOL

[@Juicejunkie409]

And he still has a ball tire on that dirtbike. What the hell is wrong with mini me?😂😂😂😂

[@YardCars]

So good to set and enjoy an informative video from a great shop, and to see the like counter go up 94 times during the duration of the 24 min long video. Keep it up Kevin, great job.

[@BenjySparky]

Kevin and crew, y'all rock! Peace

[@Scootermagoo]

ohhh gawd the rear is a 3.08 and 32 inch tires... that poor poor 302... I feel sorry for that torque convertor and transmission.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

We have already told the owner that it needs a 3.73 or 4.10 with a posi!

[@Scootermagoo]

@@KSRPerformanceFabricationWould swap the c4/aod for something a little more modern, and stick some gear in that thing.

[@kysneekysnake]

Hey Kevin are you goin to show tuning on the dyno with this truck ? If so once your done could we get a clip fro the back to hear the exhaust notes I'm a Ford guy and love the sounds of the old Ford small blocks. Keep cranking out the awesome videos I really enjoy watching and learning from your tech talk I'm 51 and still love to learn about all this stuff. I was thought to wrench on old standard carbs and ignition systems and Ive learned a lot about EFI by just watching your videos and ty for helping old guys like me.

[@terryboone6746]

Thanks Kevin! This was a great video. I'll be watching very closely when you tune the Cutlass.

[@scottwhitmer2034]

Built Ford tough with Chevy stuff!

[@ianarmitage9929]

That loud beeping may be an alert that the airbag has a fault somewhere. (That's if the truck has airbags.)

[@ftcentrepreneur]

Good video Kevin! I hope you do an indepth video on the electrial system on the cutlass when you get to that point. Transitioning from knowing a hei, distributor system, to an efi like the holley, it's intimidating for a newbie 😳 Thanks for sharing! 🙂

[@carry45calsw]

Belt squeak on a Ford ? Never happens😅

[@KCadbyRacing]

I have always ❤Holley EFI. My first Terminator X tune was also my first ever EFI tune on a V8 (been tuning Holley EFI on motorcycles for 12+ years). It's on an LS swap S10 that's been racing at Gainesville for three years and it ran so smooth and consistent (after a couple of T&Ts) that he heard some people thought I was profiling the tune lol. Side note, the original tune was done during Summer so I did have to tweek some tables through the Fall and Winter months...

[@Jonathanw704]

Agree header selection is terrible but i have had good luck with foxbody shorties and E150 4r70 shift cable (longer and heat wrapped) to clear the fox flange location

[@robinwendt5527]

If you can show a small video on how to run ur a/c with holley we would all benefit!

[@stanleymartin1613]

Cool stuff! Enjoyed watching ✌️ 😎

[@whereisamerica7384]

I was blown away when I contacted Hedman headers and they no longer make Elite series headers for a BBC in a 1968-1972 Chevelle. He said the jig was destroyed in an accident years ago. Years ago wth!! Was really surprised that. It's a pretty common application.

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

Whaaaaaatt!!

[@whereisamerica7384]

@@KSRPerformanceFabrication exactly. When he said "we don't make them. The jig was destroyed in an accident years ago" I asked him seriously!? He was real dismissive like it was nbd. I mean what no one at Hedman even cares? I have used tons of their headers and swap parts over the last 30+ years. Their LS mounts are in my 74 Cutlass and I have a couple sets of their headers in the attic. Their Elite headers and swap headers are some of the nicest "shelf" headers there are. I'm really disappointed in the conversation I had with them over the 68-72 A-body BBC headers.

[@Calvin-xp4qp]

Sounds really good!

[@groundrat1999]

Thank you for doing a video on this era truck. I have a 1994 I am dropping an aluminum headed 351w in and I am debating which fuel injection system to go on it. Might have to follow your lead here.

[@richwolf7293]

Have any tips for a first time tuner on a Holley HP on a 460 Ford? I have a few issues. I thought I followed the instructions but, for one, it cold starts fine, shut it off and try to restart and it acts like it has ALL the timing. Something is off...

[@rockercover]

XMAX - Another first here. Heard of IMAX, 😆😆, (was a IMAX 360 theater at Disney EPCOT, many moons ago).

[@BANDITRCN28]

Alt is not charging because the gauge cluster is not in it. you probably figured that out already though. lol

[@tomeickhorst6787]

We need some dyno videos. We haven’t had one for a while

[@janasimmons2933]

Nice

[@JohnLittlepage]

Still haven’t heard about eddies important call and upcoming news from awhile ago…..

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

Gotta wait just a bit more until its final...... ;)

[@ronjones-6977]

@@KSRPerformanceFabrication He finally got adopted???

[@kiwibobnz9812]

Can we do more than 2 to 4 bars in the cutlass at a time need way more content somehow on that project

[@KSRPerformanceFabrication]

I'm doing my best on it! These few weeks of Trans Am races have really messed me up with getting more done, plus my girls have been in a gymnastics camp that had me driving around town for 2 hours most of this week.

[@kennynelson2269]

All we need is just a little Patients... lol keep it up kevin..

[@OriginalMomo]

You’d think Ricky was smart enough to not harass the BOSS and OWNER of his job… lol…. 😜☠️🤦🏼‍♂️

[@boskosdoghouse]