Ruy Teixeira - "Where Have All the Democrats Gone?" | The Daily Show

[@virginiachris80]

Universal programs like paid family leave, school lunch programs, and medicare for all help disadvantaged people more, but are popular because they help everyone.

[@Wud-f2r]

But the right hates all those things and declares them socialist.

[@stax6092]

That seemed to be what Kamala was running on, so I don't understand the people that chose otherwise and those that chose to sit behind.

[@MADDcartman]

True, which makes it strange that some vague economic policy of universal tariffs and extending non targeted tax decreasing deficit spending won over it. Both of which are inflationary. Also, let’s deport millions when unemployment is already rock bottom.

[@b-dub6865]

Right. This is why we were ok with providing subsidies to farmers - it helps us all cause we all need to buy food & eat.

[@racoonfrenzy3617]

Probably because people mobilized by fear and anger would rather see others be more scared and hurt than themselves, instead of taking the chance on a rising tide that raises everyone. Since they feel they feel like they’ve been fooled by hope before, they’d rather go down swinging and hurting others as well as themselves rather than risk improving others lives and getting fooled again.

[@moresalad221]

I work for an organization and we manage Medicaid. Our programs aren’t focused on a specific race or ethnic groups, but the most disadvantaged as a whole.

[@jesipohl6717]

this guy is a scumbag maher wannabe, he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. he's never spoken to americans outside of his upper class bubble.

[@PerseusToons]

I think what Ruy is saying is there’s a way for Democrats to do these federal programs that help disenfranchised people without making race a criteria, and which can theoretically help working-class white people while at the same time helping black & Latino communities the most. What Jon is calling out is how people of color have explicitly been harmed by this country’s systems and how the federal government has an obligation to directly aid these communities regardless of whether it is seen as “socialism” by the right.

[@beezusHrist]

The man is a racist and a liar and I hated that little grin he had on his face when Jon was holding his feet to the fire. The democratic party has shifted RIGHT on social policy since 2020, and he is describing a democratic party that existed in 2020 that no longer exists in 2024. BLM and all that woke stuff is DEAD. DEI???? Notice how he could not define it. I get tired of these GRIFTERS. The answer to the democratic party's woes is leftwing populism, which means DECOMMODIFICATION OF CERTAIN SERVICES like healthcare and housing. Housing and healthcare as a HUMAN RIGHT. That is where the democratic party needs to be headed.

[@calebrum]

I kind of like the idea of rebranding it somehow

[@lmac40762]

The guest is just wrong. Just like the democrats will never be able to move right enough to not be labeled radical leftist if they try and address a single issue, they will be labeled whatever the current version of the DEI attack is. Stop playing defense when your opponent is cheating.

[@abctalkies6981]

Ruy is wrong in this matter. It's true that most DEI recipients roll their eyes at it but we need to recognize racial inequality. Otherwise we risk having racial minorities who have faced discrimination, like Black and Indigenous people, unable to secure benefits proportional to their given situations. We also enable more bigotry to these people since the majority may see them as "lazy" given their struggles and if there is no official recognition of where these struggles came from. In Ruy's world, the U.S. government would not protect black people on buses from being abused by white people when they sat on "whites-only" seats during the Freedom Riots, because they would "not see race." Likewise, hospitals would put women having miscarriages/ectopic pregnancies in more danger by dismissing them as "hysterical" as they have done. Democracy works when you firstly recognize and protect individual rights, and then listen to the majority but without compromising on those individual rights. If you don't respect each individual's situation and worth, they end up being excluded from the democracy.

[@mdav4525]

Ruy is naive. DEI, CRT, yada, yada, yada. The newly branded name will get demonized and weaponized too.

[@funtechu]

Centrist in politics has never referred to the position supported by the majority of the population - that's populist. FDR was a populist, but he was definitely *not* a centrist.

[@beezusHrist]

EXACTLY! Do not trust a word this guy says. His politics are all over the place and for some reason, he had no solutions. EVEN I HAVE SOLUTIONS!!!

[@MrBazBake]

Texeira's entire calculus relies on a world where the 10 million voters who stayed home since 2024 weren't mostly women of color and half aged 18-29. In his alternate universe voter pool where all the Dem voters became Republicans instead of just not voting, he might have been onto something.

[@desertsky]

@@beezusHrist Your solution doesn't involve Ivermectin, does it?

[@irubberyouglueonethousand5384]

Then what do you call a moderate?

[@beezusHrist]

​​@@irubberyouglueonethousand5384 a moderate. What are they moderate IN? Moderate conservative? Moderate liberal?

[@TheWtfanime]

Thank you Jon and the Daily Show for always being journalist and comedians. I just hope this show sticks around and we have another election in four years.

[@emichels]

When you lose again? MAGA.

[@mewre2062]

please. he tries ill give that but he is confused by the natural reaction to woke for his paycheck

[@edy6968]

And I just hope Jon runs for president in 2028🥹

[@vvohvaelez9277]

@@mewre2062 you mean like electing biden in 2020? woke is just right wing nonsense buzzword to demonise anything that is the other or non white non straight. Any sort of empathy to minority groups is labelled woke. It has lost all meaning

[@samfilmkid]

Jon’s interviewing skills have skyrocketed since his Apple show! Back on his first run, the guests always seemed a bit like an afterthought. But now he really balances humor with really trying to dig deep in issues he cares about.

[@dshepherd107]

He was like that before. Just took him a little time to get his groove back

[@sassenachdragon]

I’ll say this, while I love the comedy in the Daily Show I have loved both iterations of his podcasts and the long form interviews just as much.

[@silverXnoise]

He’s easily one of the best we’ve got. He has something of a tendency to get bogged down with semantics, which I think is what’s happening here. This is probably a microcosm for what’s dividing Americans at large. Maybe we just need help with the “branding”.

[@d4mephisto]

@@sassenachdragon same!

[@daddee-zh2oy]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. This was a terrible interview. Watch it again, and pay attention to how many times John interrupts the guy, and speaks over him. You can literally see the guy give up halfway through the interview, realizing that any time he tries to make a point, he's going to be interrupted. So, he starts waiting a few seconds before speaking, just to see if he's gonna get the airtime. This is literally one of the worst interviews John Stewart has ever done. Objectively. Really poorly executed.

[@jupiterjazz9421]

John Stewart coming back to the daily show is the best thing from the 00s that could have happened. He's an excellent host who doesn't let the guest get a full runaway of their time. He has a CONVERSATION

[@VictoriaKempPhotos]

Check out his podcast, longer conversations that are so satisfying.

[@DJchestr]

Harris didnt run on DEI. Trump ran on saying Harris was running on DEI

[@Wud-f2r]

Absolutely true. And HARRIS WASN’t “Woke” either, in that sense.

[@robi6317]

YEP its how trump won, by lying about dems policies while never talking about his own lack of them. he mocked the left and the idiots bought it

[@beezusHrist]

Where Jon articulates that he get's the sense that this country views entrenched poverty differently depending on where they live; in the cities, "a product of culture and vice", in primarily whiter areas, "they are victims of economic policies that they are not in control of. " I am grateful for those with a national platform to actually say this, unequivocally, and unapologetically. The guest, prior to the statement, said people do not want to support DE&I programs but will support programs that support everyone. Not understanding D&I is not the same as not supporting D&I. I applaud Jon for showing how this country has a very large blind spot.

[@captng]

They say Harris was picked for vice president by Biden because she fit female and person of color. Not that she was qualified or anything but most of the America voting population said Harris didn't have what it took

[@1001Balance]

Harris was more right wing than Biden

[@2023ABC]

The population is rejecting traditional politicians, whether they are Dems or Reps.

[@fdrstan]

They’re rejecting experience and qualifications too is the issue

[@chidumebiarukwe6436]

@@fdrstanthey need someone not in the system to come and clean it up Too much corruption

[@ZennExile]

truth is, almost no one supports anything but a team vs team tribal delusion. The real majority is refusing to vote at all. All of this outrage peddling is the dying gasp of drowning organizations that tried to cram too many lies into the deep dark cargo hold of their color coordinated ships.

[@beezusHrist]

@@bryceross92 Anti-Intellectualism... Unreflective instrumentalism

[@jraulerson3081]

@@bryceross92 Christ. I hope you never need someone with a degree in anything to save your sorry hide. Education does mean something. It should however be free.

[@jetsetter4784]

He was awful! Thank you so much for standing up for us black/brown people and for giving him a perfect example of how poor whites are viewed vs low income black and brown people. He really had a blind spot and was completely unaware of his bias. Whew, thank you, John for your brilliant knowledge and debate skills👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@LehtusBphree2flyFPV]

Jon Stewart is a legend of a comedian that really gets politics

[@Pizzaenjoyer__84]

About the New Deal-You’re both sort of right. It was centrist in that it didn’t fundamentally challenge existing socioeconomic arrangements, but it was radical in terms of the scope of federal response to a crisis.

[@TylerWardhaha]

I would point out many people back in that time saw it as a challenge to socioeconomic norms. Ayn Rand for example was born out of opposition to the New Deal. They saw it as a step towards communism and fought furiously to cement the arguments and opposition that still oppose expanding government programs and interventions.

[@Wud-f2r]

How are our problems BOTH being unwilling to move forward with a progressive agenda AND being “too “Woke” and pro-DEI”?????

[@appaatemomo-freePalestine]

Because no one in power is even remotely "too woke", it's just bs the Republicans say

[@ardtob]

Progressive agenda focus more on welfare which clearly wasn't prioritized, while too woke means they invested more on cultural problems which isn't priority.

[@jesipohl6717]

If you are a TERF or a transphobe or a racist in the DNC it's real easy to believe.

[@ikaikamokuahi]

Where Jon articulates that he get's the sense that this country views entrenched poverty differently depending on where they live; in the cities, "a product of culture and vice", in primarily whiter areas, "they are victims of economic policies that they are not in control of. " I am grateful for those with a national platform to actually say this, unequivocally, and unapologetically. The guest, prior to the statement, said people do not want to support DE&I programs but will support programs that support everyone. Not understanding D&I is not the same as not supporting D&I. I applaud Jon for showing how this country has a very large blind spot.

[@rebeccasczepanski4413]

Jon is right on the money with his observation that how we view issues in this country and what the causes are depends largely on the population most hard hit by that issue and who’s talking about it. I’m an upper middle class whites female professional and I can see that. It’s the problem of implicit bias and how that can be, and usually is, racist and/or classist, while the people holding those views insist that they are not either of those things because they define those terms differently.

[@guru47pi]

I get how many workers could say Democrats don't have their back. What I'll never understand is how anyone could then say 'the GOP does have my back. They do represent me, and not billionaires and corporations. '

[@lchaney]

It's all about liberal tears and burning the system down. They don't actually believe in anything. Make sense now?

[@jujubesification]

I think they resonate with Trump's anger onder having been made to feel less than. Trump days it's ok for them to feel angry and want revenge.

[@vvohvaelez9277]

@@jujubesification thats bc hes a populist demagogue feeding them what they want to hear with empty promises and "concepts" of plans

[@avakiin6614]

They just didn't vote. That's what happened.

[@trickyleg]

It’s not hard understand when you look at how much time Trump has put into reaching and talking directly to working class white people. That’s all it takes for them.

[@gunm808]

I agree with Jon and am also confused at what Ruy is arguing (?) about or pushing back against. Sounds like he is against Affirmative Action/DEI, but not really acknowledging WHY there is Affirmative Action or DEI. Either that, or he is not communicating his position effectively, which makes me not want to read his book lol...

[@beezusHrist]

The man is a racist and a liar and I hated that little grin he had on his face when Jon was holding his feet to the fire. The democratic party has shifted RIGHT on social policy since 2020, and he is describing a democratic party that existed in 2020 that no longer exists in 2024. BLM and all that woke stuff is DEAD. DEI???? Notice how he could not define it. I get tired of these GRIFTERS. The answer to the democratic party's woes is leftwing populism, which means DECOMMODIFICATION OF CERTAIN SERVICES like healthcare and housing. Housing and healthcare as a HUMAN RIGHT. That is where the democratic party needs to be headed.

[@neilxpeart]

Jon just steamrolled his guest under the guise of understanding. He's a strategist, his job is to indicate what the electorate wants. He doesn't have to make the argument why DEI exists. It's the job of activists and supporters of those policies to convince others. Speaking for myself, I don't think language around intersectionality is convincing. Especially for non progressive audiences who are not focused on group identity.

[@marcusc4476]

His admission of people don't want others to get reparations, speaks more to his bias on that issue. I am from NZ and currently there is a march taking place with 10s of thousands of people against a bill that has been put to parliament. This bill if it were passed would remove any right the indigenous Mãori would have to their lands, plus take away their chances to seek reparations from the Crown. And a considerable amount of people in this march are not Mãori. So to say people don't want others to have historical wrongs and systemic wrongs corrected is false. Maybe he doesn't care for it, and that is the only opinion he could concretely speak to.

[@pinealservo]

I followed Ruy's podcast "The Liberal Patriot" for a while. Sounded like an interesting premise. But all of his guests pretty much just spouted grievance about "wokeness" and identity politics. Dude took a job at AEI, for goodness sake. He just an old former-radical that sold out for a comfy job to ride until retirement. He's not entirely an idiot, but he doesn't understand *why* the electorate says they're sick of "woke" and "DEI" and why they think the Democrats focus on these things. He's too stuck in the economics of "materialist analysis" to recognize that the right wing has co-opted the media environment of working class, and that media environment TELLS THEM TO HATE WOKE AND DEI. The right DESPERATELY wants to be fighting a culture war, and they are not above lying and exaggerating and finding the most extreme examples to put on blast in order to ensure the identity politics battlefield is the one they choose. Democrats (i.e. the party and politicians of the party) respond by desperately trying NOT to say anything about it rather than trying to effectively re-frame the arguments to accurately present their positions and move the battlefield somewhere that more closely resembles actual reality.

[@beezusHrist]

​@@marcusc4476exactly!!!

[@mr.joshua6818]

Universal programs would work. The people who need those services will use them, the ones who don't, won't.

[@grymjaw]

Wrong. The rich will always use whatever they can. Always. Anything to save a buck.

[@thegazetteyt]

@@grymjaw That's because the systems are universal. Everyone can use them. The point is no one will get better treatment from that universal system because they have more means.

[@appaatemomo-freePalestine]

@@thegazetteyt It will still make the rich richer...

[@newnoise95]

@@appaatemomo-freePalestine You need to drop the communist rhetoric in what is arguably the most capitalist country in the world. Universal care isn’t about punishing the rich; it’s about helping everyone. Sure, the wealthy might benefit too-but that’s beside the point. The bigger picture is that universal care lifts everyone, and focusing on how it also helps the rich misses the mark. Blocking it because the rich won’t have to pay for it is shortsighted. Imagine refusing free, life-saving water just because the rich person next to you also doesn’t have to pay for it-that’s a truly absurd way to think.

[@bbirda1287]

Just like the Covid small business grants, the people who need them most won't be informed how to get them and there will be insiders in the system (was it John Robert's wife who got a painting grant?) who defraud all the money away.

[@SlinkyTWF]

I'm glad you called out the inconsistency in the guest's arguments. I was listening to him and thinking, "hang on..."

[@nickthaskater]

It was insanely frustrating listening to him double talk and gaslight.

[@Georgemax1]

There was no inconsistencies. Jon was making nonsensical points.

[@vvohvaelez9277]

@@Georgemax1no he wasnt. Feel free to let us know which points you thought were non sensical so we can get an idea of your perspective. Right now its just "nuh uh the guest is always right"

[@aviralgupta393]

the guest was right. Jon needs to read more intellectuals from the right/centre-right to understand the other side. the politicians exploit people on the right just as on the left while both left and right people are left hopeless

[@justinfox1432]

Thanks for standing up for us john

[@Evadooker]

this goober just said that FDR new deal was 'centrist' because it was popular? LOL

[@erichansen2999]

He was using the word centrist to mean populist

[@beezusHrist]

​@@erichansen2999THAT IS NOT WHAT THAT WORD MEANS!!!

[@genebailey6777]

So Medicare For All is centrist?

Maybe the dems should have raised the minimum wage.

[@Wud-f2r]

The Republicans want to lower it.

[@greorbowlfinder7078]

Harvard. They've all gone to Harvard. That's the problem.

[@tylertyler82]

So have the republicans. All the senators and congressmen are Ivy League educated elitist lawyers. They just have better branding and media apparatus.

[@cher_melancholy]

The only problem with his idea that all they’re going to do is move the goalpost and rebrand it. That’s literally how the term “woke” was co-opted. As disappointing as it is to hear that people don’t like the terms because it means we’re continuing to ignore the elephant in the room, I’m okay with playing ball if it means we can pass legislation that genuinely benefits everyone and is what’s best for us as a society.

[@abctalkies6981]

Correct. My main problem with the right is their inability to understand the importance of individual rights, or as they call it "wokeness." Right now we have a dictator coming to power, a group he has dehumanized (illegal immigrants) and groups he intends to dehumanize (migrants who he is already lumping in with illegal immigrants, racial minorities, LGBTQ+ people), and a tribe of people who believe he can do no wrong. What that leads to is a tyranny of the majority in which if Trump wants to abuse someone he doesn't like from a minority group, he has a government of loyalists who will not stand up to him to safeguard minority rights and a population that refuses to believe/accept that the targeted minority is in danger. What this leads to is a country where EVERYONE has to think and act like the majority, because if they think or speak or act different in the wrong place and at the wrong time, they are done. Examples of this are India, Mexico, Dubai, etc. Every single person will have moments where they don't think "like everyone else" and will have to constantly watch over their own thoughts to avoid getting into trouble. No one will be allowed to relax their shoulders and breathe. RWers want to erase individual rights to self-determination and create a populist country where everyone must live and speak and think only in the ways approved by "the majority," which will quickly become the president since the administration is already getting rid of checks and balances to his power. They are anti-freedom.

[@silverXnoise]

This is easy. Bring _everyone_ into those social welfare programs, and deliver the best healthcare and education on the planet to _everyone_ who pays taxes at no cost. No means testing, no complicated qualification or gatekeepers. Yes, some insurance accountants will lose their jobs. We call it “disruption” when malignant muppets like Elon Musk do it, but it’s “killing jobs” when the public sector does it for the broad benefit of society at large?

[@gfys756]

The USA spends more money on healthcare and education than any other nation on the planet. It isn't working.

[@OZtwo]

We are still here! You need to ask: Where has our Party gone?

[@MichaelCaffrey-t6h]

He is saying you have to help all disadvantaged people not just those whom are black, Hispanic, or any other minority. Majority people are disadvantaged to.

[@CloudslnMyCoffee]

because they are the majority, they have the largest amount of disadvantaged people

[@abctalkies6981]

Not in the same ways.

[@lchaney]

People are trying really hard not to understand this very basic concept. They want the entire democratic party to just be identity politics. Pro-war, Wall Street corporate identity politics. Yeah, I'd say they've lost their way. Will they learn any of the appropriate lessons this time around? I highly doubt it.

[@mayaenglish5424]

@@abctalkies6981 True, but do those ways not also matter is the question. Can we not all help each other? I think his basic point is, do you want to get $hit done? Your PR is bad, fix it. Make things universal, then send the money to the places that need it the most (which will be places disproportionately affected by systemic racism). poor/working class white people feel abandoned, and it's basically just true. Republicans claim that they care but we all know that's bs, and Democrats don't act like they care either. It builds resentment in people who could be friends and allies. I'm white and I care about everyone else, and I'll be honest, it does feel like no one gives af about me. I don't let it smother my compassion or my logic about the reality of racism or the disproportionate struggles of other ethnicities, but it does hurt my feelings sometimes. And I can easily see why people fall for the right's rhetoric. Why are we allowing ourselves to be divided when we are stronger together?

[@charleslemos7972]

I’ll read the book but let’s push back. 1) Carter deregulated the airline industry, that’s it. 2) Free trade policies have bipartisan support but clearly neo-liberalism was a GOP project. 3) Getting stuff done. Please all the major policy initiatives the last 30 years have been passed in Democratic administration. Honestly if the American people that Trump will work to their benefit well that’s their belief, mistaken in my view.

[@eggwardfr]

Neo liberalism is bipartisan let's not put horse blinders on. Did you know that in 5 out of 6 swing states the cost of living has exceeded wages. For us who own assets we do well, for those who decide this election neither party helps them, one just spoke to their anger while the other dismissed it

[@martin2289]

Carter deregulated the trucking industry too!

[@user-kn9tt6ny3v]

Democratic party needs to separate into two; progressive liberals vs moderate Dems. Until then, "democrats" will vote red.

[@nickthaskater]

Progressive democratic socialists*

[@simonspoke]

Maybe the US should have a three party system.

[@richardbennettiii7182]

People want things to be fair FOR THEM. and sometimes they see all the advantages going to others. And at that point it seems unfair.

[@godislove544]

All the advantages? How many people do you think are really negatively affected? Its victim mentality.

[@neilxpeart]

​@@godislove544the guest cited grievances from individuals in Chicago who felt like their requests for aid are ignored. While witnessing assistance to migrants. Whether one agrees with the sentiment, this viewpoint isn't unique.

[@godislove544]

@@neilxpeart The irony of this is who is really given much more in the way of advantages and assistance is big business, which the republicans always cater to. It is a strategy to make fellow men/women turn and think the other like them, is the enemy. It is a great distraction from looking up at who is really exploiting them. CEOs, stock holders are making profits like never before, while the wealth gap has become a chasm. Walmart, one of the richest families in the world, has the largest percentage of its workers using social programs like food stamps. Other companies are notorious for not paying taxes, like Amazon, who uses taxpayer funded roads to run their business. When big business suffer, like was caused by tRumps tariffs did to farmers and big ag, tax payers bailed them out to the tune of nearly 20 BILLION. We as the common citizens need to realize who has been and really is getting an unfair advantage and how corporations are determined to enrich themselves while not paying employees at times even a living wage.

[@neilxpeart]

​@@godislove544I think the grievance of the working class has been largely ignored by the Democratic party. Or when there are successes, like the infrastructure bill, they don't champion the legislation. I do think the people vs corporations fight will be difficult without Democrats really pushing concrete labor reforms. Even in California, they couldn't push through their minimum wage referendum or Medicare for all.

[@pattiderosamusic3292]

Part of the problem is that white folks generally don’t see the many gov’t programs that disproportionately help them at the expense of others (The New Deal era programs like FHA loans and unemployment insurance that largely excluded Black and Latino people are but two of the many examples). And then they ban the books and the courses that would actually teach people this history so that they can cling to the myth of “I made it on my own!”.

[@saywhat6062]

Healthcare, help for families, purchasing a home, taxing the uber wealthy…all bad?

[@gregbors8364]

I dropped out of the Democratic Party 12 years ago. I found it too feckless and weak, dependent on billionaires, not liberal enough, and disconnected from the working class.

[@godislove544]

And where did you go to?

[@kagyu1]

I left the party here in California when my wife got really ill . We could only afford coverage for her plus the co pays for her treatment. California Democrats fined me $700 ( it’s $900 now) for not being able to afford insurance. Yet , illegal immigrants who have had a profoundly negative effect on the construction industry I work in , get free healthcare for themselves and their kids until 26. That was a Faq U from the Democrats to the working people of California. I’m Latino descended from legal immigrants. When Democrats couldn’t make common sense distinctions between legal and illegal immigration , man woman , volunteer or victim , I left.

[@beezusHrist]

@@kagyu1 There is no mandate to have insurance in the year 2024, so you're lying

[@martin2289]

So now you're a fascist? Got it.

[@janelesnick9531]

⁠​⁠@@kagyu1I understand the frustration with the less ideal parts of the Affordable Care Act. I will say that the Republicans and the very conservative US Supreme Court made changes after it was passed that made it less effective for people. Democrats wanted to have a public option included in the affordable care act, which would have meant that when you were not able to afford the private insurances, you would instead be able to select a public insurance option, so you would still be covered. An independent Senator, Arlen Spector, who a little later became a Republican, blocked the Obama administration from being able to include the public option in the bill. 😢 I also think it isn’t quite fair to hold current immigrants to the same standard as in the past. The process is much more difficult and takes much longer now than it did when your parents were able to do the process legally. I’m not saying it was easy for them either - I am sure they had to work hard and sacrifice to do it, and that is admirable. But it is much more challenging now. The backlogs are terrible, and the costs are extremely high. In addition, people are fleeing from a lot of hardship now - extreme violence from which they wish to save their families, and environmental disasters that did not exist a couple of generations ago. And I will say, I think people do not take into account how much Democrats have tried to pass comprehensive immigration reform - and been stopped by Republicans who only want to approach immigration on a couple of fronts, and won’t look at the system comprehensively. It could be a lot more fair and orderly if they would.

[@poseidonwarrior6111]

I love how he describes what DEI is and then passionately says "but that's not DEI."

[@involuntarysoul3867]

the current DEI disproportionately help the rich and the peasants are jealous, but who really wants to help them? there is a reason they are peasants

[@tdestroyer4780]

@@involuntarysoul3867 The reason is oppression.

[@JoellePretty]

It's weird because in this interview Jon clearly demonstrates he understands how oppression works, but then somehow thinks GOVERNMENT is going to be the group that saves us, when they are possibly the most invested in and biggest beneficiaries of capitalism/patriarchy/white supremacy.

[@beezusHrist]

​@@JoellePrettygovernment was the group that gave black Americans civil rights. I don't think you know history

[@beezusHrist]

​@@JoellePrettythe GOVERNMENT isn't invested in those system, PEOPLE ARE

[@sethmeyer2443]

Please never invite this guy back. He gave me a headache. I hate when people get defensive just because you are asking for more clarity while trying to understand something.

[@TheCarpentersApprentice]

Maybe I’m slow but I think Jon & Ruy might have been talking about two different things the whole time. lol

[@mayapram]

It seems that the best analytics and the best news delivery will come from the comedy shows for years to come.

[@Wud-f2r]

As they have for many years past.

[@triniwilliams]

Help people based on their economic circumstances, not the colour of their skin or their cultural heritage

[@JustNotEverybody_]

Rare to hear people talk honestly about the issues within the democratic party on TV. Props to Stewart and the show for allowing a real conversation about politics.

[@PearlOfTheQuarter23]

Everyone is over thinking the situation, trump made everyone exhausted with his entire persona and now they have to get back to work and ignore everything he does, it’s complete surrender and apathy

[@dmaz123]

Jon interrupted Ruy way too much in this interview

[@greenjackle]

Feelings VS Facts

[@johneffinger6977]

Where have all the SMART, UNBRAINWASHED people gone?

[@dustinrhodes4189]

No the problem is people in rural America want to live a different life then those who live in Americas city’s

[@nullpointer5603]

I mean, it's kinda obvious why democrats are not laser focused. The Democrat coalition is very broad, and therefore consensus is harder. The Republican party is more homogeneous and they run on a pretty narrow platform.

[@Respectable_Username]

Their focus is only scattered because they're not focused on universal policies that will help _all_ of their base. Y'know, like Medicare for All, paid sick leave + extending annual leave, raising the minimum wage and abolishing the sub-minimum wage. Make policies that help everybody _regardless_ of demographic and you will more effectively target your entire base _regardless_ of its diversity! Of course, you can't _only_ do universal policies when some groups have been historically disadvantaged; you need to also deal with those disadvantages directly. But right now, the Democrats are _only_ focusing on a patchwork of policies aimed at smaller groups without those universal policies that wrap everything up together!

[@beezusHrist]

It's because the dems serve two masters while the Republicans only serve ONE, CAPITAL

[@nullpointer5603]

@Respectable_Username The problem is that liberal/conservative is mixed with left/right economic policies. How can you have focus if both are clubbed together? You have democrats that are millionaires/billionaires because of liberal social agenda and support senators and congressmen but clearly want a more capitalist policy for their corporations. I still will never understand how the republicans convinced the poor conservative to vote against their own economic interests.

[@amymegginson-uz7jj]

Corruption???? It's the money, Lebowski.

[@1001Balance]

I’ll have a white russian though

[@jackwalsh7956]

Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism. At least it’s an ethos.

[@Charlie2timez]

This guy is talking about “dei” and “woke” as “deeply unpopular” so let’s not call it that…really, we are doing semantics when those poor kids right wingers don’t know the difference between Obamacare and the affordable care act. It’s always about race and they perceive to be benefiting.

[@neilxpeart]

What the guy is proposing is class based assistance, not factoring in race. Any rebrand which still prioritizes race will still be considered unpopular. We're not dealing with this cohort of uninformed Republicans, it's more than half of the country.

[@YvyWinter]

@@neilxpeart Exactly, it's about helping people based on class not race. I'm not understanding what Jon doesn't understand about that.

[@ndiesel11]

​@@neilxpeart man, I wish that 400 years of slavery didn't factor in race, the inability to vote didn't factor in race, I wish the bill that diminished slavery didn't allow for prison time based on race, and I wish Jim Crow and segregation didn't factor in race, and just because... what about that federal red lining?... man... I love we have to help everyone with policies without factoring in race but we can discriminate for over 400 years against precisely one race and pretend that isn't a problem.

[@neilxpeart]

@@ndiesel11 it isn't pretending that those practices didn't exists. That isn't my argument. The fact of the matter is that it is unconditional to only provide funding based on race. Civil rights can't simply be steamrolled. In the college admissions case had Asian's (another group whose individuals experienced injustice) were being discriminated against while students of other ethnic groups were being prioritized by non academic metrics. That stance, equity, is unpopular.

[@paulklee]

Stewart didn’t let the guy talk without interrupting. Love ya Jon but …

[@takethistourgrave]

Jon has learned so much his Apple show. The writers he surrounds himself with really helped him hone in on what the issues actually are important and the fact that he was willing to listen and learn and use his power and platform to push that on national television. What a true American hero.

[@walterwz]

How do you have a labor movement in an economy of gig jobs? Organizing gig workers is forbidden by law. In Massachusetts, 52 percent of voters supported the basic right to organize by gig drivers. The Democrats are working for their billionaire donors. Have billionaires and their corporations pay their fair share of taxes. That would end our deficit. THAT is seen as RADICAL LEFT SOCIALIST.

[@abrahamabhishek4240]

Jon's interview skills is what I missed the most while he was away, even though I love his comedic skills and how he delivers the monologues

[@MRC5981]

Thank you Jon. 🙏🏽💙

[@mygeoperson]

I dont get why they couldnt use the words "affirmative action" vs "opportunity zones". Thats exactly what they were arguing over but they couldnt get through ti each other

[@kimhunter8395]

Younger people use Medicaid. And Medicare takes care of their parents' and grandparents' bills so they don't have to.

[@beezusHrist]

No, POOR people use Medicaid, not "younger people"

[@Respectable_Username]

I think that part at the end needs to be clarified and shouted more: the "centre" of politics based on what the majority of people want is _progressive._ When presented without political labels, people on the whole are more favourable of progressive policies than liberal or conservative policies. Which is why it's so incredibly frustrating that the Democrats keep chasing the conservatives and not the progressives, just dragging the country to the Right and away from giving people what they want and need!

[@gfys756]

Centrism isn't "progressive". Stop trying to make that happen.

[@lchaney]

​@@gfys756Centrism isn't popular and it isn't a winning strategy. Stop trying to force it on the people and the party.

[@gfys756]

@@lchaney Wrong. Centrism is the most popular political viewpoint, because most people don't spend much time worrying about politics.

[@beezusHrist]

​@gfys756 that's not what centrism is you extremist. You people are so weird. Centrism is often called "the third way" and is not "progressive" AT ALL. Centrism is about keeping the Status Quo. Also, Kamala Harris Ran a centrist campaign by your definition and LOST!

[@Michigan1985]

"Where have all the democrats gone?" I read that to the tune of Peter Paul and Mary's "Where Have All the Flowers Gone?". Someone should do that and switch up the lyrics.

[@JuiceTeaBeans]

I was singing Paula Cole's "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" 😂😂

[@takethistourgrave]

​@@JuiceTeaBeansthis one for me lol

[@shieh.4743]

Same

[@seansmith3058]

"When will they ever learn" seems appropriate.

[@lendial]

This is a wake up call for both sides. Politics has failed the 60% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck.

[@gleragh]

John said it best about urban versus white areas and the victim versus deserved. You know who wrote about it? Vance. And he’s exploiting it.

[@Xcizior]

So Universal Basic Income. Something a majority of americans agree with.

[@natelecarde962]

Stewart 2028

[@alm5851]

love the discussion! thank you for the upload

[@DougUnfunny]

This guy is just a republican, He keeps saying DEI.

[@uncan]

Now that was an informative, insightful and interesting discussion and debate. Wish there had been more of this in the year leading up to the election. People might have listened.

[@2007cgarza]

That's called an intelligent, well-conducted debate :) Jon Stewart is the only one I' see capable of doing this at this time.

[@Bugsndrugs19]

I mean this earnestly.. Jon Stewart if you love America, PLEASE run for president for 2028. We need you.

[@kimduffy7470]

No, you're forgetting something important. NAFTA let subsidized products into the market that undermined our competitive workers! First time I voted Republican. I support Unions and our own reliances. Voted Kamala vs big money for this time. Trump won't help workers, who could think that?!!!!

[@objectivetruth2286]

The democrats are the big money party now. They outspent the republicans by $400 million in this election. 80 of the top 100 richest people in the U. S. are democrats or left leaning.

[@martin2289]

Republicans backed NAFTA 100% and their tax policies incentivized and facilitated the offshoring of jobs, so they're hardly a pro-worker alternative.

[@rventr1]

As has been my opinion for years, people - americans - care about DEI or the suffrage of marginalized communities when it's convenient to their wallets. Any policy is irrelevant if I can't afford to eat today. And in such a case I should be expected to feel favorably towards candidates that acknowledge or pretend to care about my problems.

[@colormebrave2231]

"people are okay with helping put people in disadvantaged backgrounds" this man makes it sound like hand outs. look at K.J Brown the first black woman on the SCOTUS - she is one of the most brilliant legal minds that has ever sat on the SCOTUS - she's not "disadvantaged" she didn't need "help" we need a society that TRULY delivers on merit and it doesn't THAT'S the problem. If it was truly about merit why have there only been 6 black senators in 250 years?

[@beezusHrist]

The man is a racist and a liar and I hated that little grin he had on his face when Jon was holding his feet to the fire. The democratic party has shifted RIGHT on social policy since 2020, and he is describing a democratic party that existed in 2020 that no longer exists in 2024. BLM and all that woke stuff is DEAD. DEI???? Notice how he could not define it. I get tired of these GRIFTERS. The answer to the democratic party's woes is leftwing populism, which means DECOMMODIFICATION OF CERTAIN SERVICES like healthcare and housing. Housing and healthcare as a HUMAN RIGHT. That is where the democratic party needs to be headed.

[@plwadodveeefdv]

political offices are anything but merit-based, and they never will be

[@bobwinters5572]

This guy sounds like a political consultant who has lost a lot of campaigns after giving his candidates a lot of bad advice. But he still got paid, so he never had any incentive to learn why he lost.

[@katiewagner7447]

Loved this!

[@jaydee975]

Perhaps the biggest elephant in the room is the farmers depending upon migrant labor, instead of having to be able to have the opportunity to afford to hire more American workers or technology to help harvest crops, especially in California.

[@beezusHrist]

Farmer either needs to raise their price to hire Americans, hire illegal immigrants who will soon be deported, or go out of business. There is no solution for this problem under the framework of liberalism. You have to look elsewhere........ Democratic socialism

[@martin2289]

Most Americans refuse to do that kind of work, even it it paid a decent wage, which often it doesn't (especially for people without the skills and endurance required).

[@amremorse]

Same here in Canada.

[@mayaenglish5424]

Name me two Americans who want to go work in a field; I'll wait. lol Stephen literally did a whole bit about it on the old show and testified before congress about it. 🤣 kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6izk6iogaqNr7s

[@xray5043]

Helping everyone because Black people were slaves and people would be mad is racist. We don't help everyone because farmers need help...

[@saywhat6062]

The right does not want to have a coalition. They are more ‘my way or the highway’ only. You can’t get a coalition in that environment. During gwb’s administration they literally had to pledge to never talk abt ‘compromise’ and they had to pledge to blindly follow what the ‘leadership’ said, period.

[@CaptainCanuck68]

You are welcome any time you want Jon.😊

[@OliviaÁnhnh]

Your videos are the benchmark of quality on KZbin. Thank you for your hard work and professionalism!🍓😊🏋️

[@sylviapesek5193]

I haven't heard much discussion of the degree to which voter suppression has been a significant factor.

[@daveando6516]

Jon Stewart can easily be the front runner for 2028 election dem primaries.

[@claudioramirez5726]

15:30 Jon at it again. Amazing how well he broke that down.

[@susanbeever5708]

Jon put Bernie Sanders on and look at history.

[@zacharythomas8617]

This is the first time I've ever heard of it.

[@devindasilva2258]

Wow Jon Stewart got some real points out credit to him

[@Ericwest1000]

Great!

[@stephanieadams3747]

Without DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion, women wouldn't be in the workforce. Women couldn't have credit cards, etc. (Most people reading this don't realize how the workplace and financial world have changed for women between the 1969's and 1980's.) DEI helps level the "playing field" and gives people an opportunity to get into snd make headway in the workplace, housing, etc

[@tbone2646]

Nobody has a problem with helping people that need it, the problem is the weird obsession with race. If you want to end racial discrimination stop discriminating based on race. Which is exactly what DEI is - racially discriminatory policies. Instead of dividing people up into arbitrary categories and pitting them against one another, help should be means tested - if you're poor you qualify, if you're rich you don't. And then having the feckless gorm to call the other side racist when you literally can't stop thinking in racial terms.

[@BagOfH0lding]

Interview Scott Galloway and Bernie Sanders next.

[@mudson7380]

Not sure why Jon invited this guy on. Spent a bunch of time asking questions, and then talking over the guest when he tried to answer.

[@appaatemomo-freePalestine]

I wish he wouldn't interrupt his guests so much

[@lchaney]

He wasn't giving the answers Jon wanted to hear.

[@beezusHrist]

Because the guest couldn't adequately answer the contradictions the things he was saying were presenting. Be a better guest

[@alltradejack]

If you think the people view poverty in urban areas differently than poverty in rural areas, then blame the people for that instead of repeating the one line, ad nauseam, that you have latched on to that "government is not responsive to the needs of the people." If the people cannot even uniformly define what their needs are, then no government can be responsive to them.

[@CultureNotes]

exactly

[@appaatemomo-freePalestine]

I think it's pretty clear that the need of poor people is to not be poor anymore. And pretty clear that the government is not responsive to that...

[@NolaCaffey]

We missed the lesson at the end of the Cold War, that you cannot choose between "left" (cooperation, socialism) and "right" (competition, capitalism). Humans cooperate and compete all the time, at the same time, but not consciously. Politics (community, civilization) has always been the challenge to balance competition and cooperation thoughtfully and with purpose. Then we will have common ground and can solve the problems of living together. America practices socialism, but mostly to benefit the wealthy. Now that the rich and poor are so far apart, we can be divided and destroyed from the inside by fascism. Most of us are fighting over the crumbs, unable to afford to raise and educate children. The wealthy are miserable, too, as they never feel they have enough and never know who loves them rather than their money.

[@ingridblack296]

What a healthy argument!

[@thepeacefulbuddah]

Jon Stewart 2028

[@yvetterivera8126]

The problem is everyone is tired of the greed and lies that government feeds the people .

[@louisefrazier1302]

The government is a broad term. The problem to me is not “the government.” If we keep on making “the government” the problem, then we make it easier for those who want to destroy it and replace with a system that benefits only the wealthiest few and is much less democratic. If anyone remembers, we, the people are supposed to be “the government.” We didn’t want a king. We wanted to be an integral part of our system, and it seems to me that the more we distance ourselves from that rare idea of “government by the people”, the greater the danger of losing it. If left to an authoritarian system, we will lose our voice. Then we can grumble and complain all we want but there will be no one in power who will bother to hear us.

[@MorselOfBread]

I don't think Jon knows how DEI is being used in hiring, or just like many Democrats can't talk about it.

[@matthewaustin3154]

Universal Basic Income would set a bottom line for every citizen without discrimination. Odd how it's not more popular with the side really concerned with unequal opportunities.

[@Sumaleth]

Jon talking to himself after having time traveled back in time about 15 years.

[@PerezRivera65]

Stop having old people run for president. Congress looks like a senior citizen club

[@JudithRandall-vz1zk]

The author is a bit arrogant and condescending about the subject, just because he wrote a book. But Stewart is smarter and right about it.

[@ericagelsey9254]

One of the biggest tell was the construction of the Bay Bridge after the Loma Prieta earthquake. Because the US no longer fabricates steel (only one in Texas) Gov Schwarzenegger had to write an amendment to buy all the steel from China. Including China’s TEMU quality bolts which were cheap but were shearing even before the bridge opened.

[@alexandrialewis97]

We're still here! Just not being heard or counted!!!

[@danielgoudy7573]

Your guest is right.

[@mickeywood3012]

America's problem is our school system and the lack of qualified teachers, which leads to poor working conditions which leads to low morale and children know when things aren't right.

[@xaviersmith8671]

Not John s best interview

[@joshfactor1]

if you think they're not a populist administration, you clearly haven't been paying attention

[@eggwardfr]

Leftist vs conservative populist are very different