Ibanez WH10 V1, V2 & Zoom G5n Wah100 Shootout

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Dave Simpson

Dave Simpson

Күн бұрын

Let me know which one you preferred and why. :)

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@theeboys2825
@theeboys2825 4 жыл бұрын
omg you have the most feel in your playing than any person i’ve ever known or heard! :)
@Macro-photographer
@Macro-photographer 4 жыл бұрын
You really do “feel” every note when you play, awesome.
@sssidney
@sssidney 4 жыл бұрын
Your playing and what you put in to it is something else I hope my son when he’s older plays with as much enthusiasm and energy as you keep rocking out!!
@ilan71
@ilan71 4 жыл бұрын
i was vibing to ur solo hard. i fell asleep and i swear i saw images. i can’t even think of them anymore but i want to see them again.
@playstationracer67-acc
@playstationracer67-acc 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, wow, wow Dave, you sure got lost in the moment during this solo, amazing emotion and simply absolutely fabulous.
@paulcoleman3081
@paulcoleman3081 4 жыл бұрын
I love your Bravery Dave. Both as a guitar player and as a bloke. The bit of the jam after the backing track finished was just thrilling. I'm not a bad guitarist, really, and I can play my pentatonics and modal whatsits without making too many mistakes, but to use the techniques you did at the end and still not put a foot wrong (you don't play with your feet but you know what I mean!) is wonderful, inspiring and courageous. Holy Moley!!
@dmenelli16
@dmenelli16 4 жыл бұрын
The V1 for sure 🤘🔥🔥
@SarpKaraarslan
@SarpKaraarslan 4 жыл бұрын
To me, V1 is the best!
@Redhotchilipprs
@Redhotchilipprs 4 жыл бұрын
I got a V2 when they first came out and loved it. Always have wanted to play with a V1 but I got what I needed. Recently my V2 after many years of using needs a new Pot. I got a V3 few months ago and man I love it it’s fantastic just leave it on buffered and I don’t miss my V2.
@frankhemphill9904
@frankhemphill9904 4 жыл бұрын
weekend was so quiet without Dave but what a start to the week--WOW WOW WOW -Dave thats a Jam
@macaomartinez
@macaomartinez 4 жыл бұрын
I maybe know why the wah with the zoom sounded like underwater, your tone knob on the left is all the way to the left and should be in the middle like your volume knob. It happen very often to me also , i'm like what's it's going on with my sound and i check and the tone knob is all the way down or the volume is. The way they made the knobs on this thing is really not a smart thing, hope that helped you. Keep it up, love all your hard work :)
@Mahoney5881
@Mahoney5881 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Just noticed that your light with your pinky! I only use my pinky if its a necessity! AMAZING stuff brother Dave!
@justanotherinternetmusicia1248
@justanotherinternetmusicia1248 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing less than your entire soul goes into every single note, you’ve got the ability to let go and fly that I aspire to have. The V2 was my favourite
@juangutierrez7648
@juangutierrez7648 4 жыл бұрын
I received my v3 and it sounds great with the ds-2 and tone city golden plexi
@martinclemesha4794
@martinclemesha4794 4 жыл бұрын
And a good evening to you Dave. Fabulous intro. Cheers me up no end.
@MTBTexasBikeRider
@MTBTexasBikeRider 4 жыл бұрын
The intro was so awesome 👏😎🤩❤️🎸
@lcerretti
@lcerretti 4 жыл бұрын
ibanez wh10 is my favorite pedal of all time 😁
@kalinzlatanov3891
@kalinzlatanov3891 4 жыл бұрын
The v1 sounds better to me, I think the v2 sucks tone a bit more. You should actually try an old MIJ DS2. I think the difference between a MIJ and MIT DS2 is more noticeable than the difference between a v1 and v2 Wah
@shakeyourguitartutorials
@shakeyourguitartutorials 4 жыл бұрын
love your playing on both ! and oh , yeah! love wah !!!!! : )
@marts500
@marts500 4 жыл бұрын
Dave is my new favourite guitarist...he's a subtle blend of a medieval jester the true reincarnation of Jimi Hendrix 2.0 and a thoroughly bloody decent bloke...if i lived next door to him i would permanently be pestering him for guitar lessons.
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 3 жыл бұрын
That is a man who's in complete control of the guitar while it too is completely controlling him. They are one!
@lcerretti
@lcerretti 4 жыл бұрын
always amazing🎸❤️
@juanfernando2652
@juanfernando2652 4 жыл бұрын
Great playing dude u r awesome thanks for share your knowledge with us ❤️ love from : Ecuador
@soundlysbananacam6182
@soundlysbananacam6182 4 жыл бұрын
that sound is mint
@theeboys2825
@theeboys2825 4 жыл бұрын
i want an hour long video of just you playing your so addictive
@derekclacton
@derekclacton 4 жыл бұрын
An amazing intro! 🤩
@deeforty
@deeforty 4 жыл бұрын
Need to get mesel one of these ibanez wahs..... Well dave, watching you for the last couple of month, I've decided to part ways with digital gear and head back into cabs and pedals, sold my axe fx, bought an amp, iso cab and about to build a ridiculous pedalboard. Yeeeessss.
@factualblunt6517
@factualblunt6517 4 жыл бұрын
Love you Dave! Keep shredding!
@chrismurray2978
@chrismurray2978 4 жыл бұрын
Dave, I used to have an Ibanez Wah . It was grey and green,looking much like the one you have on your board.I don't recall which model it was, but it sounded ( to me) so god-awful that as I remember I gave it away.Now, maybe I had a bad one, but who knows.Back when I first started to have long jams with a bass player and drummer, I had an Italian built Wah called a "Strepitoso". It wasn't great but got me into strat into plexi Marshall with whammy dips and a New Zealand designed copy of a Watkins copicat, called a ZHolden tape echo. Along with a very moderate, only just distorted home made fuzz built by a mate of mine. With this I spent years annoying my neighbours with delayed scorching dive bombs and other noodling staples, so I get how you love using the pedal( which does sound better than the one I later had.I still have a wide pedal with a big white rubber matted Wah pedal, that also fuzzes and has a synthesised note you can alter the pitch of by using the pedal it even does this while doing its fuzz thing. It's a bit broken but the Wah still goes and you can alter the range of the Wah by using a different knob. This unusual contraption is or was Japanese- called the "synthesiser traveller" pedal. I hardly ever use it except for Wah but it is totally crazy and I intend to keep it.I'd just like to say I thought your playing in the early part of your performance here showed an increasing subtlety and beauty in your guitar playing; not that J didn't enjoy the ending but I just loved your playing more in the early part. Good to hear from you again and keep it up as the actress said to the bishop!
@misery3681
@misery3681 4 жыл бұрын
And the captions also say "Wow" when Dave played the whammy bar, did anyone see that?
@theeboys2825
@theeboys2825 4 жыл бұрын
i saw it to lol
@leoe388
@leoe388 4 жыл бұрын
what time is it?
@misery3681
@misery3681 4 жыл бұрын
@@leoe388 At 4:14 mark and also 4:43
@leoe388
@leoe388 4 жыл бұрын
@@misery3681 hahahaha thanks
@gopork
@gopork 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! The V2 had sooo much more expression it seems than the black V1. I'm determined to get a Zoom G5n though because of its versatility and durability. As far as the Zooms tonal effect of sounding like it's under water, it's not so bad. The darker tone from the Zoom sounds like a cross between the V1 and V2. After this video I want to get both the V2 and Zoom like you have ( and the Jackhammer, and the Ds2, and the Governor and the HX... ). ✌️💖
@jorge.az07
@jorge.az07 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I love more the V2,because it's a gainier version of the V1,on a hard enclosure (so it won't break),and of course,because it costs an arm and a leg less than the v1 I have a Zoom G1xOn,an older version of the G5,that has a WH10 model,it sounds dead on,but I would love to be able to use it as a single digital effect unit,instead of having all that bulk in my board
@Dizzle7771
@Dizzle7771 4 жыл бұрын
Dave is the king of Wah 🤘🎶🎸💪
@dominiccousins6113
@dominiccousins6113 4 жыл бұрын
The grey v1 has a much larger boost than the black v1. I think you should try a grey v1 if you get an opportunity. Have you tried a Wilson ten spot ii? Grey v1 circuit in a solid casing and true bypass
@TheDeedeeFiles
@TheDeedeeFiles 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing
@ryanx7170
@ryanx7170 4 жыл бұрын
Epic bar control
@filipematias2239
@filipematias2239 4 жыл бұрын
V3 is very nice, dave. But V1 is just better.
@irishwanderer4206
@irishwanderer4206 4 жыл бұрын
or steve vai awesome whammy action
@bluessumlin...7067
@bluessumlin...7067 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly that whammy bar display of how it should be used 😎 excellent Dave! V2 all the way but closely followed by the Zoom G5n, the muddy sounds must be how your running it😮! V1 like you said great but lacks a punch... By the way try tweaking your Zoom G5n pretty sure you'll get the sound your after!☺
@heshwuan
@heshwuan 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, Dave. You are amazing! That intro blew my mind. All those wah's sounded way better than my busted Cry Baby.
@RobinhoGuitarCovers
@RobinhoGuitarCovers 3 жыл бұрын
Great video's Dave! And your playing is something i only can dream about. I'm close to getting a Ibanez WH10 Black Purple version. And the DS-2 and PastFX Chorus Ensemble CE-1 clone are on their way to my home. I will run it through my Blackstar HT5R with 12" Celestion Greenback and Ruby12ax7 preamp tube. Should be good enough for my home studio does it?
@thedavesimpson
@thedavesimpson 3 жыл бұрын
It should be yeps. Just be careful of the treble on the amp.
@RobinhoGuitarCovers
@RobinhoGuitarCovers 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedavesimpson i will Dave! Thanks for your reply👍🏻😎
@kaicottrell1560
@kaicottrell1560 4 жыл бұрын
Dave would you buy the original grey one the one John used it has boost the black and purple one is the one John used sometimes during cali era mainly it's the original grey one
@knockoutguitarist087
@knockoutguitarist087 4 жыл бұрын
ITS THE DIVE BOMBS FOR ME!!!!
@The__Jordan
@The__Jordan 4 жыл бұрын
Best way is to get the Wilson effects one. Full vintage remake with a more sturdy chassis. Plus a volume adjustment to dial in whatever boost you want :)
@kaicottrell1560
@kaicottrell1560 4 жыл бұрын
It's in $ wilson effects Dave's in UK
@koryoxide
@koryoxide 4 жыл бұрын
Basically, you've said all I was thinking. v1 against v2, I liked the v2 better. It had more output intensity, better depth, and construction. And they're easier to come by. And I could dial in a v1 sound with the v2 but not the other way around. Now, how does a Weeping Demon stack up?
@anolusstepputat4870
@anolusstepputat4870 4 жыл бұрын
I have two V1s (gray) and one V2. The boost was the same at all three pedals, but to me the V1s (gray) have a more differentiated sound. The V2 is a bit too fizzy in comparison. One of the V1s potis broke down a few months ago :-( I would go for a V1 (gray)
@kaicottrell1560
@kaicottrell1560 4 жыл бұрын
John used that one it's the original
@troyredford149
@troyredford149 4 жыл бұрын
Out of the three I'd say the V2 was the best for all the same reasons.
@MultiCugel
@MultiCugel 4 жыл бұрын
World record for wack wammey woppery in the intro! The both the V's sound exactly the same to me, the zoom sounds cleaner and that sounds best to my ear.
@MaxNicol009
@MaxNicol009 4 жыл бұрын
would love to see an ibanez wh10 v3 review dave see how it stacks up against the others
@kaicottrell1560
@kaicottrell1560 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to me it sounds more powerful than the v2 especially with the ds2 + v3
@kaicottrell1560
@kaicottrell1560 4 жыл бұрын
I've got one but I prefer the original grey one
@MaxNicol009
@MaxNicol009 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaicottrell1560 ye I use a compressor for my John clean tone and I think it makes the wah sound worse
@kaicottrell1560
@kaicottrell1560 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaxNicol009 i use the ce-1 for my John clean tone.
@jurgenhanel6301
@jurgenhanel6301 4 жыл бұрын
I only know the V1 gray version so far - and it has LOADS of boost... you can't stand it using in front of a clean amp! Combined with the Jackhammer (as you prefer it) or the pulled out Input Gain Poti on the original Silver Jubilee (what I use to get it work at room level volume) it sounds like heaven... Besides I wonder if the V2 could be even "boostier" than this... Someday I´ll try out to compare these two and let you know about the outcome.
@sheercerebralpower
@sheercerebralpower 3 жыл бұрын
Even Jimi is nodding his head,Dude....
@MrAston8
@MrAston8 4 жыл бұрын
v1 just sounded better from here.
@DionysusJPower
@DionysusJPower 4 жыл бұрын
Its funny, that 'underwater' sound you're getting on the Zoom is similar to the way my Katana 50 goes with your John Fru settings. I end up having to raise the mid and treble. Its not like your one
@lukabanovic2937
@lukabanovic2937 4 жыл бұрын
I also had that same issue but then I switched to Dave Jackhammer setup. My advice which I extremely recommended; use the acoustic channel (volume and sound 100, bass 0, mid 40 and treble 0) and get yourself a Marshall Jackhammer with Dave's settings. I'm using a 2010 squire CV stratocaster (with the original Tonerider pickups) and it sounds 99.9% like John.
@oncameramastery
@oncameramastery 4 жыл бұрын
Hay Dave, have you ever tried one of the super cheap Behringer HellBabe wahs? I've had one for about 15yra and apart from a slight hum it sounds great, absolutely amazing for the tiny price!
@deszczu6665
@deszczu6665 4 жыл бұрын
bardzo lubie twoją twórczość jesteś jak fala wody to wznosisz się to opadasz bardzo lubie twoją twórczość jesteś jak fala wody to wznosisz się to opadasz jestem z polski I really like your creativity you are like a wave of water you rise then you fall I really like your creativity you are like a wave of water you rise then you fall I'm from Poland
@deeforty
@deeforty 4 жыл бұрын
Dave, I've been looking through your videos and you may have touched on this and maybe I've missed it, but, when you play the Drums through your pedal and looper, how does it not add all the effects on the drums? Like when you add delay, how does it not add delay to the drums? I'm thinkimg of getting the mooer drummer pedal and a looper, I just can't understand how adding loads of fxs doesn't affect the drum sounds, hope this make sense.....
@irishwanderer4206
@irishwanderer4206 4 жыл бұрын
the next rory gallagher
@margareta5519
@margareta5519 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff , i want to become dave Simpson one day
@armax00
@armax00 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or the Zoom sounds always a bit weirder without distortion? Are there options that can be adjusted to fix the tone there? Love your socks! :)
@hyport7033
@hyport7033 4 жыл бұрын
Dave , you said you wanted to get the mooer ge100 , did u get it yet ? will you make a review on it ?
@thedavesimpson
@thedavesimpson 4 жыл бұрын
When i can get one i shall yeps. :)
@oldguy5381
@oldguy5381 4 жыл бұрын
If the peddle can handle your playing style, you don’t need it. Play it like you mean it. If it brakes throw it away. That’s just my opinion. It sounds great good luck
@zanignacio989
@zanignacio989 4 жыл бұрын
hi dave what is the distinction between the zoom g2.1u and zoom g2.1Nu? which of the two will standout and shine...hope you can do us a video soon...thank you!!!
@jwlademann
@jwlademann 4 жыл бұрын
Getting nerdy, looking at the schematics there is some differences between v1 and v2, with some filtering at the input and output on the v2 that isn't on the v1. And slightly more resistance at the input of v1 because of the filtering setup. Pretty simple mod to make them technically identical, though obv really minor differences like type of caps/resistors and value drift could still make a difference.
@filipematias2239
@filipematias2239 4 жыл бұрын
how is that "nerdy" ?
@deadoctopi5070
@deadoctopi5070 4 жыл бұрын
Me this evening “Wonder if that Dave guy has any wah videos?” 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you
@kevinsallows9709
@kevinsallows9709 4 жыл бұрын
Hi dave here's a question for Wednesday answer and questions, iam still trying to learn to play the guitar, I have fender champion 20w, I want an Boss katana 50w mk2 , do you think I should get 1?
@steveevans6087
@steveevans6087 4 жыл бұрын
Ah,my first multi fx was a zoom 2020 before that only played through the amp it was like getting into a Formula one car after driving a robin reliant woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@littlebritain64
@littlebritain64 4 жыл бұрын
👍💪!
@bumblefritz
@bumblefritz 4 жыл бұрын
18:20 At first I heard "I would like to try gravy one..."
@goth_ana
@goth_ana 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the V2
@Richb99
@Richb99 4 жыл бұрын
V2 was definitely the best to my ears. I did like the v1 was still a cool sound. The zoom sounded really poor in comparison I thought.
@rocknroor
@rocknroor 4 жыл бұрын
version 2 all day .imo sounds better and made of metal . you mentioned in fuzz 3 video the other 2 pedals on johns californication board do you know what boss chorus he was using amd if the phase 90 was scipt logo or later block logo great vid love ya brother
@rocknroor
@rocknroor 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry that was lazy I Google John pedal board found some great pics of different eras
@portuguesebeer5069
@portuguesebeer5069 4 жыл бұрын
In my humble oppinion, the Zoom is the most expresive, and the one i liked more. Im glad you made another vídeo with the G5n. By the way, theres a new small (but hudge) version of the Boss Gt-1000! Im still waiting for a review from you of the awesome Boss Gt-1000! All the beer from Portugal 🍺🤘
@stevefrancis6898
@stevefrancis6898 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dave how dose the g2 whaw compare to the g5??
@hybridnoisebloom
@hybridnoisebloom 4 жыл бұрын
The V1 sounded killer, but then it's under Dave's foot, isn't it..
@Pauld62
@Pauld62 4 жыл бұрын
In unrelated news, i got a set of harmonicas today? Do you ever play them??
@thedavesimpson
@thedavesimpson 4 жыл бұрын
I tried but didn't really like it.
@hjul3372
@hjul3372 4 жыл бұрын
What's your opponion on the v3? Been looking in to getting one for a while!
@kaicottrell1560
@kaicottrell1560 4 жыл бұрын
Get it it's amazing
@thedavesimpson
@thedavesimpson 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't tried one yet.
@douglasdog1
@douglasdog1 4 жыл бұрын
I love the V3. I had a V2 and I like the V3 better. The true bypass feature is a great addition. The buffer in my V2 had a negative effect on my bypassed sound.
@koenraadhendrik
@koenraadhendrik 4 жыл бұрын
The V3 has way more gain. I own the V1 and V3 and while my signal remains clean with V1 it really distorts when I use V3.
@douglasdog1
@douglasdog1 4 жыл бұрын
koen brouwers Yes, there is a boost with the V3, its about the same as the V2, which I modded in a volume control for. Might do it on the V3, but haven’t really felt the need yet.
@davelewis4215
@davelewis4215 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Does your brother use any bass pedals or zoom boxes ?
@thedavesimpson
@thedavesimpson 4 жыл бұрын
He used to but i no zoom.
@davelewis4215
@davelewis4215 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedavesimpson Gear4Music in York have the 3 Instock for £119 plus P%P The write up made me laugh.
@GiGi-kl1tn
@GiGi-kl1tn 4 жыл бұрын
Wich pedal did you use at 5:52 ?
@harveygitarista1600
@harveygitarista1600 4 жыл бұрын
Are you using an Ernie Ball Paradigm strings?
@thedavesimpson
@thedavesimpson 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@brucethornton4010
@brucethornton4010 4 жыл бұрын
Is the Ibanez Weeping Demon any good? I got one but I don’t “wah” much. It seems like it’s built to withstand some abuse.
@koryoxide
@koryoxide 4 жыл бұрын
From what I've seen, the Weeping Demon can dial in a Wh10 sound, but with a better EQ control and a dedicated on/off switch.
@brucethornton4010
@brucethornton4010 4 жыл бұрын
Kory De Leon Oh cool. Thanks for the reply. It’s seems like a good pedal but sometimes all the added extras on versions of gear don’t equate to something as good as the “basic/original” models. Glad to know it’s good though thanks. I wondered cos I rarely hear it mentioned in wah reviews/comparisons, and then Dave said about the one in the vid (v1?) is plastic and the Demon (WD7) seems like it’s some kind of metal (I can’t find the ingredients on the box😁) I wondered why he doesn’t have one.
@koryoxide
@koryoxide 4 жыл бұрын
@@brucethornton4010 I'd like to get my hands on a WD7, but they look metal and sturdy enough. There is a video posted ten years ago that someone did a shootout between the WD7 and the WH10v2
@kaicottrell1560
@kaicottrell1560 4 жыл бұрын
The v1 black verison doesn't have any gain boost the original does the grey one
@LoungeCat91
@LoungeCat91 4 жыл бұрын
The black one is usually called WH10 V1.5
@JohannDaart
@JohannDaart 4 жыл бұрын
I wrote a mail to Zoom about this scroll problem on G5n... Let's see if they at least will respond ;)
@kaicottrell1560
@kaicottrell1560 4 жыл бұрын
You'll prefer the original grey one it has boost
@sagartiwari8439
@sagartiwari8439 4 жыл бұрын
I have fender strat and zoom g5n I want metal distortion tune please help make video
@marianosaab2694
@marianosaab2694 4 жыл бұрын
Clean it up Davie!
@irishwanderer4206
@irishwanderer4206 4 жыл бұрын
ok ive heard sound coming from that guitar ive never heard before
@simonssparestrings8910
@simonssparestrings8910 4 жыл бұрын
thumbs up thumbs up
@GiGi-kl1tn
@GiGi-kl1tn 4 жыл бұрын
Ouaaauwww
@camilincamilero
@camilincamilero 4 жыл бұрын
I love my WH10v2, but the pot gets dirty and start making scratching noises when I sweep the pedal. How do you deal with dirty pots?
@lukabanovic2937
@lukabanovic2937 4 жыл бұрын
He has a video on that somewhere in his channel!
@paradigmofficial9328
@paradigmofficial9328 4 жыл бұрын
No Ibanez WH-10 v3, non the less it all sounded extraordinary, the intro jam to the comparisons. I hope ur ok today, tomorrow and the rest of ur week Dave, stay safe and rock on until the night ends 👌🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼❤️
@Matthew_Scan
@Matthew_Scan 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the Zoom better not as harsh
@MSM101
@MSM101 4 жыл бұрын
V2 sounded a lot more responsive to me.
@homerbugadogrower
@homerbugadogrower 4 жыл бұрын
Eita porra!
@jamesf2918
@jamesf2918 4 жыл бұрын
Operatic Dave 🤣🤣🤣
@Hammonds77
@Hammonds77 4 жыл бұрын
V2 sounded better to my ears
@outsidethepyramid
@outsidethepyramid 4 жыл бұрын
4:26 I thought you was going to do a Jimi and play with your teeth then :)
@flemmingerichsen8621
@flemmingerichsen8621 4 жыл бұрын
Get a haircut. Get a shave. Get a tie. Ha ha. Rock on. 😀😀
@thedavesimpson
@thedavesimpson 4 жыл бұрын
No
@flemmingerichsen8621
@flemmingerichsen8621 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedavesimpson Keep it up. We zoom fanatics must stick together. 👍 Sad about Eddie. Hes jammin with gary Moore up there. 🎸
@jamescarey3995
@jamescarey3995 4 жыл бұрын
Way to get your wah-wah's out! I can't hear much of a difference, other than volume. (and I thought I heard the Vox saying "and what about me then! Hallooo... anybody?...Waah!")
@LiamGardner
@LiamGardner 4 жыл бұрын
Not enough big toe in this video. 4/10.
@LadyizraelRoM
@LadyizraelRoM 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave! Might be somewhat offtopic but a while ago you did a comparison between the WH10 and a vox v847. I really liked the vox but it appears the made in usa v847 is no longer in production, only the v847a is - which one did you use? An older v847 or the made in china v847a? (an obvious way to tell would be that the old one is battery powered only) Cheers!
@thedavesimpson
@thedavesimpson 4 жыл бұрын
Mine the Chinese one.
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