Population Collapse Is ‘Biggest Issue’ Threatening Economy | Darrell Bricker

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Darrell Bricker, Global CEO of Ipsos Public Affairs, examines when the global population will peak, and the implications for the economy.
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0:00 - Intro
1:17 - Global population peak
6:16 - Economic impacts
8:04 - 'We're not prepared for it'
9:08 - Immigration
10:36 - Consumption trends
12:40 - Government incentives
14:15 - Cultural shifts
16:55 - AI and productivity
18:15 - Infant mortality rate
19:58 - Pros vs. cons
21:20 - Minimum population
22:30 - Impact on real assets
23:45 - Political impacts
25:41 - Solutions?
27:10 - Shifting trends in Canada
30:35 - Immigration policies
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[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

House to expensive for new family . Old rich people have 4 home As an investment. Increase house prices

[@ancientancient-jv1pw]

Feminism-->depopulation method.

[@flwhitehorn]

Adoption or funding homes for children might help.

[@tono635]

The greedy wolf is afraid that the sheep will not reproduce.

[@tono635]

​@@flwhitehorn how about 2 yaers pay parental leave. Paid by employer

[@nmatrix9]

What is the point of having a high GDP and a booming stock market in a country where a large portion of the population is living in tent cities?

[@tomw485]

Fewer than 1% of the American population are living in tent cities. The point of a high GDP and a booming stock market because the quality of life for the vast majority of people will be significantly impacted if both of those falter. If you don’t care about it you should.

[@karlwheatley1244]

@@tomw485 Well, the main fix needed is redistributing wealth on a massive scale... then of course de-industrialize the economy and adopt much simpler lifestyles so we don't cause ecological and societal collapse.

[@tomw485]

@@karlwheatley1244just like Pol Pot did in Cambodia?

[@karlwheatley1244]

@@tomw485 I always love a good reductio ad adsurdum argumentative fallacy, don't you? High inequality is a central driver of societal dysfunctions and political corruption, and you simply can't have a healthy society with levels of inequality as high as they are in America and many nations. Unless you sharply reduce inequality, other programs and policies are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

High GDP means more money for bombs.

[@user-es7bu4cx3j]

People in this "booming" economy can't even afford to pay for themselves, let alone children.

[@harryholiday5356]

The problem is wealth distribution, not population decline. Check it out.

[@SnokenX]

Yet poor people get more children than rich couples. The problem is not primarily money but priorities, lack of time and an unwillingness to change your established way of life to make room for children.

[@13KcMagicGirl13]

@@harryholiday5356 there is no population decline. Stop believing their lies.

[@kated3165]

@@harryholiday5356 Population is actually, currently, well over what the planet is estimated to be able to sustain resource and land-wise. Around 3 billions is what we shouldn't be passing. The reason we have been able to sustain such massive booms is because of fossil fuels (which frees incredible amounts of human labor and allows unbelievable levels of production)... but we are going to run out of accessible oil, and we need to drastically cut on fossil fuels regardless because of Climate Change.

[@Jake-mv7yo]

If we had universal healthcare this wouldn't be so difficult. People would have more children if it didn't put them at risk of financial ruin. The ultra wealthy need to pay more taxes and make it easier to have kids if they want workers in the future. Robots won't be able to do everything for at least a few more generations.

[@4ninefine199]

Consumerism IS the Real Problem. Having to perpetually "grow" the economy (to pay off debt to Central Banks) to "sustain" the Global economy is utterly ludicrous.

[@ThrashLawPatentsAndTMs]

How about naming your concept “Materialistic Morality”?

[@GMSKI7]

Consumerism is an integral part of the capitalist mode of production. Imagining the end of consumerism is within your reach, but imagining the end of Capitalism is unthinkable. This is why humanity is not yet ready...but it will come

[@dougcaswell9961]

Greed is the real problem!

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

So Capitalism.

[@JennyJeanLove]

Exactly

[@bar8665]

Monday: The robots and AI are going to take away all the jobs!! What are we going to do?!! Tuesday: Population is in decline! We won't have any workers for jobs!!!! Wednesday: The world is overpopulated! Start eating bugs immediately!!! Thursday: Start over Mondays message.

[@whatintheworld6076]

Exactly. I’m so sick of all these expert yapping about how capitalism is about to die off in that way or another. STFU.

[@EmmaSolomano]

I don't think any of these issues are mutually exclusive. Technology and AI, overpopulation and ecological overshoot, as well as declining population in a growth based economy, are all existential risks.

[@hamzamahmood9565]

Its not simply population decline, but rather population aging. Robots do not consume, humans do, especially the working aged adults

[@Kreadus005]

Heaven forbid human beings actually become valuable. The entire system won't know what to do...

[@TheKain202]

Human life has never been valuable, if fact - it's never been more valuable. All it takes is cursory glance human history.

[@financialm3771]

Dude is locked into the infinite growth paradigm. "If we're not growing forever everything will collapse!" Dude, everything is going to collapse regardless.

[@UniDeathRaven]

LOL, but at least when you grow - you know, you can't collapse. All civilizations and societies collapse when they stop growing.

[@cnsmiles]

the only people concerned about population issue are governments and corporations. They both have entitlement programs that require a new crop of working aged adults ready to pay into their respected systems.

[@marcusantoninus1838]

While that IS despicable, it's also in people's own self interest to have a loving family. Unfortunately many people don't see it that way, more that it's twisted that a family somehow oppresses you.

[@Summer-nm9si]

So sorry about not providing pawns for the elites! We’re just really tired of being exploited

[@Avery-wy1xh]

The US government is lying about the real rate of inflation. I've heard that if we actually had stayed honest about inflation minimum wage would would be 23 to 26 dollars per hr for minimum wage. There are people who are making 7 dollars per hr still. People are still allowed to invest housing and are charging crazy rents. Many gen z are talking about leaving the country. This country is so corrupt.

[@raymond_sycamore]

**sigh** this narrative buys right into their plan to depopulate.....

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

They will simply import people to replace you. So no worries for them.

[@raymond_sycamore]

@@shfjvjfhjvb The simple truth is the fix is in, depopulation is happening. ALL OF YOU bought the lie that families and offspring are the worst things that could happen to you. Our only hope IS young HOT skinny FEMALES and a LOT of pregnancy!

[@georgekazanchyan4976]

@@raymond_sycamore Smaller group of people will be easier to bind together and screw the elite.

[@sokratzmmf]

You need to read "Limits to Growth". Infinite population growth on a finite planet is impossible. We are running out of resources and wildlife has been decimated.

[@CoryAlphin]

The only reason the government would incentivize more children would be to ensure more bodies to send into their wars.

[@LaFonteCheVi]

No, it is because humanity as a species needs generational turn over or society completely collapses.

[@natashadickson4819]

More incomes to tax.

[@nmatrix9]

Bingo

[@NestIeCrunch]

Wage slaves 😂

[@SigFigNewton]

No, they care more about the economy

[@MileyHumphrey-ql4jp]

Our economy struggling with uncertainties, housing issues, foreclosures, global fluctuations, and pandemic aftermath, causing instability. Rising inflation, sluggish growth, and trade disruptions need urgent attention from all sectors to restore stability and stimulate growth.

[@Thomas-mh6ib]

With the US dollar losing value to inflation and other currencies gaining traction, uncertainty looms. Yet, many still trust in the Dollar's perceived safety. Worried about my $420,000 retirement savings losing value, I seek alternative security for my money.

[@Anthony-bh6dd]

this is definitely considerable! think you could suggest any professional/advisors i can get on the phone with? i'm in dire need of proper portfolio allocation

[@Anthony-bh6dd]

I appreciate it. After searching her name online and reviewing her credentials, I'm quite impressed. I've contacted her as I could use all the help I can get. A call has been scheduled.

[@comet392]

Exactly, they don't care about quality of life. They care about still having livestock.

[@justacinnamonbun8658]

I don't really buy his thesis that the reason people don't want to have kids is "just because." That may be a small part of it but the bigger piece is _why_ do people feel this way? It's because when economic opportunity in developed countries goes down like we're seeing here in North America, where child care is obscenely expensive and people are making $8-$15/hr., payroll taxes are high, a 1 bedroom apartment is around $1000 a month, how much is a 2 bedroom, like $1700? People begin to use their brains vs. their sexual organs and think, if life sucks for me why would I want to bring children into the world? It's a valid question. In the United States something like 60% of people live paycheck to paycheck and the number of homeless people and people living out of their cars is skyrocketing. If you want to see a population boost bring back life from the 1950s where dad would go work and mom stayed home and that was enough income for a family of 4 with a dog and a cat and a mortgage payment and still had money for vacations and to save. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble with my own thesis but it seems pretty clear to me why people are not having children, it's because life sucks for them and they're having their own set of problems.

[@suezcontours6653]

Meanwhile Africans use their kids as a means to alleviate themselves from poverty

[@vmoses1979]

Wrong. People in much poorer countries are having many kids so it is not about money. And rich people who are not worried about money ie child care, housing etc are also having fewer kids. He's absolutely right - this is cultural. A whole society of self centered people who only care about their own personal benefit. And the elevation of 9 to 5 as the be all and end all of human existence - if all that is deemed productive is how many hours you work and how much you make - why wouldn't people avoid leaving to have children? And yes costs for average families are definitely an issue but not the primary issue.

[@AlbertoGarcia-qr7qg]

​@@vmoses1979the Main reason is economic , boomer !!! If people can't Buy a decent life For them , You choose not to have children

[@Guitar6ty]

The same shit happening in Europe and the UK all thanks to educated idiots who push growth with mass immigration which basically disenfranchises the working poor.

[@shamster7182]

That's an excuse , it's not the real reason.

[@ronmiller7210]

The middle class figured out how to cause deflation. Eat the Rich , don't have kids 😭

[@redemissarium]

the world still crazy inflation though? also strangely the inflation seems rigged by the elite, house is no longer affordable in my country while my parents can easily buy alwhile demand is declining

[@abelujfalusi1683]

It will hit the middle class, not the rich. We will be the most affected, the average worker and very probably our lives will be more miserable. It is already happening in some countries

[@LordMagiru]

Its going to be a deflationary recession. If you are in any debt or have outstanding loans you are screwed. If you have no debt and cash on hand there will be opportunities for you to buy up assets for cheap.

[@11conormcloughlin]

Our society made the decision of having rapid growth from 1945 to around 2000 and the trade off was the debt fiat systems allowing the baby boomers to live with history’s greatest standard of living. Their children and especially their children will pay for the consequence of them living beyond their means. High debt, high inflation, high interest. Millennials and younger generations will be slaves stuck barely making it with everything outpacing their incomes. To say people have less kids because society is wealthy is ridiculous. I’d like to have kids but if I can’t afford to take care of myself, I defiantly can’t afford to take care of kid(s). I should also mention that the Boomers, instead of wanting to foster having children brought in hordes of unskilled people from the third world. This depressed wage growth and unnaturally swelled the population.

[@accountfake1070]

In the 1970, one medium income could support a family of 5 or more, buy a house and have savings. Now, a couple each with a medium income can't afford a house, let alone kids. The fact he did not know this and put it down to a decision speaks volumes about what he knows. Knows nothing.

[@shelterskelter]

Median income...not medium. Your point stands.

[@24rjwlsn]

Oh he knows about the median income shrinking. There is a reason why he didn't say anything about it. That was the Mulroney government for you.

[@Chuck68ify]

Fiat money. See, 2% inflation actually means your dollars are worthless in 50 years, thanks for slaving away.😊

[@natashadickson4819]

US median household income was $96,508 as measured in December 2023. I understand that household income means dual income nowadays. Spouse or housemates.

[@michelleelsom6827]

Lots of folks have kids even though they cannot afford to

[@foumar5217]

I‘m a 44yo male, physician, single, have no kids, and many peers of mine are same. Its a social trend here in Europe.

[@feleciawallace8420]

Happening in all developed countries - only the poor in the undeveloped countries are having babies....

[@h8h215]

37 male no kids 2 best friends of mine same age male no kids, brother 27 no kids sister 39 no kids other sister 44 1 kid literally noone in my close circle have kids, i know 1 colleague in work out of 30 people that has a kid thats it.

[@thelumpyspaceprincesslinds7650]

Looking for a wife ?

[@flaminjamin]

Only sub-Saharan Africa has a high birth rates, and those are also in decline. Nearly everywhere else - Europe, North America, Asia, South America, Middle East - has birth rates below replacement levels

[@gearhead1234]

It appears finally the big head is doing ALL the thinking instead of the little head, in the developed nations… lol.

[@freeme905]

Sounds like our overlords are worried about having enough workers.

[@gearhead1234]

Indeed… those above need an army of those below to maintain their lavish lifestyle and wealth.

[@tomw485]

Wrong… they’re worried about a drop in demand.

[@SigFigNewton]

Will there be nurses for the elderly?

[@SigFigNewton]

Will there be enough agricultural labor or will food go way up in price?

[@antinatalistwitch111]

Yeah right. They don't care about work. They need there to be more desperate consumers.

[@kated3165]

The Ruling Class: "Nobody is entitled to livable wages, affordable housing/groceries/childcare/energy/healthcare, nor a habitable and safe planet for your kids to inherit!" Also the Ruling Class: "Why aren't the peasants reproducing anymore??!!!" 🤷‍♀

[@rustyscrapper]

Animals don't reproduce if their environment is constantly dangerous or stressful. Humans included.

[@tomw485]

@@rustyscrapperThe environment for the human race has never been safer and more hospitable. If your theory is correct then why do countries with the worst health care and lowest life expectancy have the highest fertility rates. Might want to think about this one a little harder

[@kated3165]

@@tomw485 The reality of having kids in the worst off countries isn't remotely comparable. They don't need to properly feed/dress/house kids if they can't afford (or don't want) to. They don't need to pay for daycare or buy a bigger car or start investing in their college funds. Instead they can send them off to work in mines or plantations all day, or have them toil on the farm or sell them for a bit of profit to a stranger...

[@karlwheatley1244]

@@tomw485 "The environment for the human race has never been safer and more hospitable." Maybe you don't read science, but wow!!!! We are currently heading into worsening ecological and societal breakdown, and humans are degrading Earth's ability to support life in 4 major ways simultaneously. Who wouldn't want to bring kids into a world with growing food shortages and resource wars?

[@msJjbluematrix]

@@kated3165 Facts

[@j.s.c.4355]

Whenever these guys argue that falling population is a disaster because of labor shortages and consumer shortages, it reminds me how Southern plantation owners argued that the economy would collapse without slaves.

[@tomw485]

Well good for you for making that totally false equivalency

[@Guitar6ty]

Spot on we live in a slave system masquerading as democracy.

[@NestIeCrunch]

This can't be more correct. Slave owners used to have forced breeding camps cause slaves didnt want to birth more slaves.

[@msJjbluematrix]

@@tomw485 I don't know. It kinda reminds me of something similar that my own mother said. Makes sense in some ways.

[@charlesmhorn]

I'll take false equivalency for $1000, Alec.

[@user-yf4gx4rf8h]

It really feels like dancing around the real problem . People arent having children becasue they themselves dont feel secure. You hear about the fact that in 1970 you could raise a family on minimum wage etc. With that was, most people owned there homes/ paying a mortgage / FELT like where they were living was securely "theirs". "Im a good tenet " the landlord isnt kicking me out . They felt like my job was "MY JOB". If i work hard I will move up (if not i will be paid fairly) but regardless in 30 years i will retire and play golf . THAT IS NOT THE CASE TODAY. Every study shows that people that MOVE make more, so even if you wanted to be "loyal" its a self destructive practice. Your paying more in rent than the mortgage on a house, and it not yours. Its why i think so many people own cars, it one thing you can OWN, and on todays wages. NO parent wants to bring their child into an unstable situation.

[@knightofkorbin888]

No intelligent parent. Plenty of the other kind impulsively will bring children into their hell.

[@JennyJeanLove]

True

[@comet392]

Exactly, they don't care about quality of life. They care about still having livestock.

[@TheKain202]

Not really. Even the "poor" strata of modern western society has a standard of living that would be considered downright extravagant and utterly opulent compared to any period in human history up to a century ago, and it never stopped people from having large families before. Hell, even now, the only places that still have positive birthrates are shitholes and it's no coincidence. The real reasons are consumerism, feminism and contraceptives(and ab0rti0n). People have been rewired to feel like children are a time sink that gets in the way of enjoying life(consuming). Women no longer consider having a family and being a mother as something to aspire to, but something to be embarrassing that gets in the way of being career focused and participating in a rat race and being essentially Men-lite, which is something that's hip(Feminism). And even if life throws you a curveball, you can always... opt out of it(contraceptives and ab0rti0n). It's essentially a triple whammy that results in people avoiding having children until the tail end of their reproductive capability, or until it's actually too late, and even then it's maybe one kid, when you actually need 2+ per female to maintain stable population, because ain't nobody got time for that when you can consume product and make more money to consume more product instead.

[@comet392]

@@TheKain202 Then you are one of the greedy and selfish people who see others as livestock.

[@pictureworksdenver]

Make it super expensive to live and make home ownership so unaffordable that young people simply give up hope of ever owning a home and guess what? they don't get married, don't form households and don't have kids. We've transferred wealth from young people to old people for so long that there are now very few pathways for average young people to realize culturally accepted average ways of life - like raising families.

[@fabuloushostess6171]

I saw a report recently that for decades the ratio of government money going to old people vs young people was 7 to 1.

[@nah131]

"Let It Rot" is another movement that the youth started to give up.

[@Guitar6ty]

The old are not to blame but your government certainly is. They use mass immigration to push growth which lowers wages and exponentially makes land and property prices grow beyond the means of young people and even old people. Add in Ai which will destroy 1.6 billion jobs in the next 3 years its already hitting Banking Warehousing Administration and Retail shopping and you have a situation where economic collapse is inevitable. The Rich are already shipping out to SE Asia for a more civilised way of life and better opportunities.

[@leroybrown2968]

Population collapse is not the biggest issue it is taxes. Everything is taxed and it is killing the middle class. People have children if they can afford a home and afford to take care of them

[@karlwheatley1244]

Taxes are not that high, it's just that middle class wages haven't kept up.

[@zaree7040]

The Fed's doom-and-gloom forecasts had us all spooked last year, but it turns out they were the ones who got spooked! Productivity soared to a impressive 2.6%, smashing the expected 1.8% growth potential! Kudos to the workers who proved the naysayers wrong! Looks like we might be better off without the Fed's gloomy predictions after all

[@roosefeitosa2536]

Absolutely! Rising productivity is a win-win for the economy, as it enables faster growth without fueling inflation, all while maintaining costs. It's a sweet spot that policymakers love to see!

[@luisjoel-b6e]

Wars and inflationary pressures are growing to the decline of the economy, using our tax dollars to fund this madness.

[@bradleyjones9233]

I am indifferent; I haven't recovered since my portfolio declined in 2022. I have $100k to invest in the markets. Which sectors or assets do you believe will sustain the rally to reach new all-time highs?

[@clementdan9417]

It's important to remember that the markets and the real economy operate on different timelines. While rate cuts may boost the markets, their impact on the real economy takes time. I'm cautious about timing my moves, and I always consult my broker, as I have since 2022. Thanks to their expertise and Monica's skilled management of my hedge fund, I've enjoyed a impressive 140% gain in my portfolio!

[@zaree7040]

140% is a great deal, amidst this crisis? I fell short of my mortgage and had to foreclose the property. Who is this broker you use and are they accessible or it is private?

[@vv247]

Can't have kids if you can't afford it !!! Blame currency debasement, money printing and the fiat system.

[@MaxPowersCFB]

You know people were poorer than us and still had children throughout history. The problem is we are spoiled and we don't want to sacrifice our lifestyles to have children. It has to be perfect and will have to have the perfect job. If people didn't spend their money on half the shit that they don't need and go into debt doing it enriching the elite in the process then they could afford it. If women didn't want to be independent of men and work and be single in their 20s we could it because working woman in their 20s is inflationary since they have the belief they don't need men a delay marriage. Instead of man and woman in one home, you have man and woman in their own homes taking up rental space that should not have been taken up. As more women have become "independent" and embraced feminism, the higher prices on rental space has gone up along with it.

[@momomama2510]

@@MaxPowersCFBNo. We’re not spoiled. That’s BS. We can’t afford what previous generations could afford. What sloping are you talking about ? They printed money out of our living standards. We’re supposed to have a BETTER life than previous generations not worse.

[@MrKevinwg]

@@MaxPowersCFB Compare the average starting wages for BOOMERS, and the average multiple yearly salary (FOUR YEARS SALARY) to buy a house when BOOMERS where in their early working years.

[@LaFonteCheVi]

@@momomama2510 "We’re not spoiled. " Imagine saying this while typing a comment on a smartphone/computer likely in a heated/air conditioned home.

[@LaFonteCheVi]

@@momomama2510 " We can’t afford what previous generations could afford." When your parents were young, they lived in tinier houses, ate simpler food, wore hand-me-downs, and spent most of their time working. The generation before that was even harder, and before that, and before that. "We’re supposed to have a BETTER life than previous generations not worse." Human society operates in cycles.

[@mp77744]

It’s a problem for bankers and tax collectors. Not for the people.

[@UniDeathRaven]

indeed, fak zem.

[@rampage241]

Do you think they'll stop taxing us? It's everyones's problem.

[@robertgulfshores4463]

It's not money, even women who can afford to have as many children as they want aren't having any. Darrell is right, the #1 reason is simply "they don't want to". Women just don't want to do that anymore. They have other choices, options. I want my daughter to choose how she lives her life ... hobbies, career, travel, purpose, etc. If she chooses not to have kids, we are totally ok with that. And also, I think the planet doesn't need 8 or 9 billion humans ... it seems way above a reasonable, sustainable number. 2 Billion seems like a reasonable number ... the Earth could handle that for a thousand years if we were smart, and that's the number we had when my father was born.

[@baassiia]

Imagine your life without your daughter. You really think, you would have been happier? You've been brainwashed.

[@robertgulfshores4463]

@@baassiia I have not been brainwashed. But thank you for the silly criticism. It's a sign that you are paying attention. You see, women are choosing not to have babies. Your arguments won't change that. So we can either accept it gracefully, and do the best we can with the new reality, or pout and complain. I choose to accept it.

[@baassiia]

@@robertgulfshores4463 in your comments you mentioned travel, hobbies, work as something that can replace having kids. It can't. Of course we can't make decision for our kids but you know what we can? Every day I repeat my kids how lucky I am to have them and how great they are and so loved, that having kids is great. That I would loved to be grandma in future. Reality of having kids is hard sometimes, isn't it? but still worth it. I work as finance system expert. Great salary, great projects and you know what, I wouldn't hesitate to quit it, if any of my child need me full time, like accident or something similar. Vacation? You are joking. Material things can't replace having a child and family. Sad to hear that somebody is ok with its kid remains childless.

[@jacquelynn2051]

@@robertgulfshores4463These are the SAME people that are unhinged on the roads with the nerve to be trying to check a woman’s conception rates. It would be comical if the willfully obtuse wasn’t so profound.

[@LordMagiru]

There are subcultures within the west where women are having many babies and who's population is growing exponentially due to this. These cultures will eventually replace the mainstream culture we have today. And who are these cultures I hear.. They are the more insular, more religious and more conservative monotheists we call Christians, Muslims and Jews.

[@BrickGriff]

"We need more people to work for wages insufficient for basic living!"

[@allen2zulu]

I will only bring children into a situation better than my childhood, not worse

[@Chuck68ify]

A big statement because it's hard to be optimistic in the current insanity.

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

Exactly. I will not bring children into this hellscape. Society needs to do a complete 180 before I contemplate having kids.

[@jerryinmon2731]

and people like you are the reason this is going to be such a big problem. if people continue not to have enough kids, then this situation is only going to get worse. ask anyone from the oldier generations there is no such thing as the perfect time to have kids.

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

@jerryinmon2731 We don't care. Cry about it.

[@glassycreek1991]

​@@jerryinmon2731They design it this system and force it on the young. Now the consequences are here but sure blame it on us.

[@tonylinardi3089]

In 1960 a man could support a family, house and automobile on one income. Today it is impossible to raise a family on one income, you need two plus incomes to just afford rent and food for two.

[@natashadickson4819]

Single parents (widows, divorced, unmarried) raise kids on one income, especially those who receive no child support or inheritance funds from the other parent. Having a child is not impossible, it's literally being done every day.

[@kiwicam6419]

If we're having less kids, there will be more housing to go around. Lower prices perhaps.

[@natashadickson4819]

@@kiwicam6419 The houses become cheaper in areas that don't have good jobs. In Japan, abandoned houses are called akiya and they are becoming more common in the countryside because the jobs are in the cities.

[@phoenixrising4995]

@@natashadickson4819 That only works for single moms or foster parents who just use their kids for their next crack binge ticket.

[@Outerghost559]

@@natashadickson4819 ya and you will be in a massive amount of debt, the people who are doing it are living in a nightmare

[@KJSvitko]

Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger. Having a child that you can not provide for yourself is cruel and irresponsible. There needs to be more focus on quality of life and less focus on quantity of life. Governments and businesses want a growing population for cheap labor.

[@tchai91]

Did you listen to a word he said? How on earth is birth control going to solve a disappearing population? Unless you wamt to regress to a caveman existence, in which case birth control and equality does not exist.

[@travisbplank]

"But people in Africa are poor and they're still having babies." Yeah when people are in extreme destitution and uneducated they tend to reproduce, often because they believe in a sky wizard or they just need those children to help them get food when they're old. Sometikes they believe in nationalism or some other "broader identity" that gives them non-tangible reasons for reproducing. Also, in the places where people are having babies, they're probably not in an economy where they're competing with generational wealth and corporations for the right to have a place to throw their body after work. I am in my mid 30's, a veteran and college graduate (no debt) and still cant afford a home. Not only do I see it as not ethical to have children when I cant even house them, I'm also not staying in one place and having "skin in the game" for a community. I have to constantly shift communiti3s and jobs as the economic waves price me out of rental markets and necessitate I move to where the jobs are. I am being crushed, not by poverty, but by economic inequality.

[@effexon]

that community part is key, which they left out in this discussion and it is true, who would want to raise a kid as hermit or other way, working 12hours a day never see their kid.

[@vmoses1979]

Lol what a dumb comment by the original poster. When your grandmother in Canada or the US was having 4 kids - was she uneducated or destitute? Nope. Canada and the US were the richest countries in the world in the 1950s. People in Africa have kids because there is a pro natal culture that sees children as a blessing, as a positive rather than as a drain or a burden. This is primarily cultural. Sure a higher cost of living cramps lifestyles but one or two kids can be housed in an apartment you are already renting and the food costs initially are not huge. Ultimately people need to stop making excuses for their own self centered outlook and stop blaming cost of living.

[@AlbertoGarcia-qr7qg]

Correct

[@rustyscrapper]

Ironically, 3rd world countries are "poor" by OUR standards. But they have something we don't. Time, and communities. Their living standards measured in GDP is low, but they work less hours then we do and have lots of time to make babies when there is nothing to do but hunt, gather, and make babies.

[@Guitar6ty]

Welcome to the NWO slave system.

[@Rodrigo_Gatti]

life is hard enough for rich people, so why would anyone bring children to this world to be a working poor ? I don't blame anyone for having less kids , if at all, than previous generations

[@nauy]

It’s very clear that the modern woman doesn’t want the job of bearing and rearing children. The more educated, the more career oriented, the less they want that job.

[@VitaSineLibertatenih]

Men too. Too much hassle for little payoff.

[@harlzberg6068]

it's called hypergamy and the more educated and professional the modern women get, the less likely they'll be mating with someone lower status then themself.

[@AliceinSilverland]

​@harlzberg6068 I'm a female with a chemical engineering degree and I fell in love with a man I met on a MAX train who had been homeless for 19 years before I met him. We have an amazing life and family and I fall deeper in love with him everyday.

[@nauy]

@@harlzberg6068Yes, there is that, hypergamy. But there is another factor that compounds the problem. Nature has built the drive to propagate the species mostly into the desire to fvck. But now that the link between fvcking and procreation can be easily snipped by contraceptives, there is really no longer any automatic drive to procreate.

[@stevensteven3417]

​@@AliceinSilverlandNo you aint, a chemical engineer would be smart enuff to not come up with a useless "BUT I" comment. Like as if you alone are going to change the statistics.

[@nauy]

Needing population growth for economic growth is an obsolete concept. With AI and automation, we won’t need as many people to keep the economic engine humming.

[@amdebrahan9189]

You miss the point. It's about demand. Who will buy the stuff AI is churning out? Not enough people. Not enough disposable income.

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

​@@amdebrahan9189 What if AI consumed its own demand.

[@TurnkeyTrading]

did you watch the video?

[@nauy]

@@amdebrahan9189 Uh no, you and this so called expert are missing the point. Robots can reduce the cost of goods and services to almost zero, if the corporations and gov’t weren’t there to leach off the system. That means people don’t have to work much, or at all, to have everything they need. You need to rethink what our economic system is really all about. The so-called consumption economy is just a big scam to get people to work to acquire stuff they don’t really need. For what? To transfer wealth from the consumer to the producer. If people don’t buy, then the certain people cannot be billionaires. People are brainwashed into thinking this consumption economy is the only choice. It’s time to upend the whole thing. If the robots work for us, and there is no parasite class to drain off of the system, then there is no need for a consumption based economy. It’d be a totally different kind of economy. Yes, we have to make the robots first. But that is on the horizon now.

[@nauy]

@@user-lb8bg6kj9mDude, there is no need to consume for the sake of consumption. The premise is just ridiculous. The consumption economy is only there to facilitate wealth transfer. If the robots can supply everything at near zero cost, and we don’t need to transfer fruits of our own labor to anyone else, then we really don’t need to work much or at all to have everything we need. Perhaps we need to work only for stuff we really want, stuff that have limited supply in spite of the robots.

[@bonniewatson178]

People aren’t having large families because they can’t afford it, and most of us mothers don’t care to leaving our children in daycare with strangers. And in today’s society both parents have to work, the only way I could’ve worked was my husband and I worked different shifts so one of us were home with our children, because I don’t trust any strangers with my children.

[@michelleelsom6827]

Women have come to realise they can have a better quality of life without kids. More free time, more money, less stress, less tired, less cleaning up after others, less time preparing meals, often with little or no appreciation for there effort The list goes on, & on.

[@Enormous866]

Exactly

[@nah131]

even for men too, like it is a win-win situation in both genders.

[@suezcontours6653]

​@nah131 The people winning are Africans. Less white people the better for them. Colonization will be over

[@CanTho2022]

Kids do NOT guarantee you a better life when you get old! We and many of our friends and family members chose NOT to have kids! They won’t help you when you are old….you will have to fend for yourself with LESS MONEY AND RESOURCES because kids require a lot of money to raise

[@petemorton8403]

My long term wife ran off with another guy/monkey. She is a family outsider and I think loves it. insanity from my perspective

[@johnbirman5840]

Important discussion. “But, but, robots/AI will produce” “Robots don’t buy cars. Robots don’t go to restaurants” They also don’t buy houses. If one looks at various historical periods of rapid declines in population ( and there have been many): who suffers the most? The Rich. Why? Research a little to find out.

[@effexon]

we are at Ford,Taylor problem set again after 100 years. why produce more better cars if nobody can buy them.

[@RS-we7lx]

The issue is it is too expensive to have children. Most families have to be a two incomes to keep a roof over their kids’ heads, daycare is close to $20K per year for two kids, and god forbid if your insurance did not cover the birth of your children because now you are strapped with hospital bills. Wake up! It is the cost of adding another person to the family.

[@christes]

I would love to see the studies that he claims say that tax breaks, ECT, don't effect birth rates in a meaningful manner.

[@attitudeproblem6462]

Exactly. They jack up all these prices arbitrarily and expect people to just eat it and keep producing for them… For a group of people who have all the money, they sure don’t understand how money works.

[@lukeshaul820]

Population loss is a good thing and will benefit mankind in the long run.

[@flaminjamin]

Maybe it’ll be good in 100 years but the time between now and then is going to be terrible. A shrinking population will be like Detroit but worldwide - houses, businesses, neighbourhoods abandoned. Failing infrastructure. A smaller working population overtaxed to care for the old and pay the huge debt built up from previous generations. Elderly people with no families to care for them. No growth, no innovation and a decline in the quality of life

[@gen-X-trader]

Rich people just don't get it. You can't even afford to have kids these days. You look at what the average wage is, the cost to buy a home, the cost to raise a kid. It's out of reach, the wealthy have plundered to such a degree and they hold so many of the assets, we can't function with the scraps left over. The second angle is with metoo. The hyper awareness of consent and appropriate behavior, which don't get me wrong I'm not against, it's just shifted society to be far more conservative in their sexuality. Like there are a lot of icels that shame hook up culture. Many normal people, they take a look at this, they realize that one accusation can ruin their life, they say why do I want to bother with dating? What do you think happens when you shame sexuality and make it so expensive that kids are virtually impossible to raise? The decline of the world population is about a certain as the Titanic sinking. It's just math

[@user-ci2mn1oy3w]

why do you want one, anyway? There's nothing special about your "so-wonderful" genes. The race will get along just fine without them. You can retire on what you dont spend on HALF of one kid. Public schooling is WELFARE, folks! Private schools charge 50k per year.

[@Avery-wy1xh]

💯 Percent. They take, and take and take.

[@avalanche240]

Nah, they get it. You're supposed to appreciate it regardless

[@Avery-wy1xh]

I personally believe that both sides are taking extreme sides on the second issue to hide the level of wealth extraction and mismanagement of funds to cover for the level of theft that has been occuring since I started working in 2005.

[@ChristAliveForevermore]

100%

[@margowolfe3857]

The world did very well when there was only 2 billions of us 50 years ago

[@VitaSineLibertatenih]

Good times create weak men...

[@wihenao]

50 years ago families had 10 children. The problem is the excess of old people.

[@effexon]

@@wihenao yea we seem to be on some curve going other way down.... same as all animals, those who had 10 kids simply had too many and people live very long so they are among us for many generation( if generation is 25-30 years).

[@lokijordan]

And much of the world lived in horrific poverty back then, too.

[@margowolfe3857]

@@lokijordan still does

[@UniDeathRaven]

I swear, its so funny to hear wolves cry because sheep do not reproduce to keep their luxury lifestyles . WEF 2030 "you will own nothing and be happy" backfired so hard

[@ALANGREENSPAN420]

🚨SILENT🚨DEPRESSION🚨

[@hobarttobor686]

in 1980 who predicted the internet and smartphone...in 1930 who predicted nuclear weapons... no one knows what the world will be like in 50 years, 20 years....

[@ThrashLawPatentsAndTMs]

1980: Smart Phone (Nicoli Tesla 1905), Internet (DARPA 1967) - though neither grasped the enormity of the end products

[@feleciawallace8420]

Agree with your sentiment 1000% ... no one can really predict what life will be like or which crisis will happen within a 50 to 100 year span...

[@CountryMusic19854]

Of course we can 🤦🏻‍♀️. You’re talking numbers. Simple maths. And as it currently stands, millions of unborn children are missing from our world that can never be replaced. Average age of humans is around 40. Fertility in women falls at 35. IVF success rate was pitiful and failed. We know those workers ain’t going to be there. We know we ain’t cured death. And we know the economy cannot be organised to specifically meet needs rather than wants. But anyway 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@stinger15au]

Pretty simple. Capitalism for various reasons has caused the birthrate to tumble. Capitalism in true form treats this problem (like climate change, pollution, worker suffering) as a future problem. They only care about next quarter. Governments are also behaving the same way, using immigration as a stopgap. That won't last either. It's all going to end in tears.

[@inexpertxennial6067]

The biggest reason is women having freedoms and going to work. In 1865 35% of women in New Hamshire were childless. It's moving from the farm to the city.

[@blackmancarry]

The problem is that it's a myth that many countries are still in capitalism. The second companies start to be subsidized by the government, you no longer are in capitalism

[@CountryMusic19854]

Not sure what freedom you think women have? They’re tied to those work contracts and tax systems, no different than any other slave under capitalism. Who’s working for no reason. Naff all to do with it. I never had kids, cuz I never had stability in my home life!

[@ronmiller7210]

I'm an RN in skilled nursing. Industry on the verge of collapse now! Yet it's going to grow by 35% . So many old people. Good luck

[@natashadickson4819]

The middle-aged and the automations will take care of the old people. Nurses used to push them in wheelchairs. Now the wheelchairs are electric. Elderly people went to the pharmacy in the past, medical supplies come to the front door now. At least for my husband. I'm not on meds.

[@kiwicam6419]

Age is probably less of an issue, but unhealthy population, diet, environment and lifestyles are costly. People need to wake up from their slumber.

[@CountryMusic19854]

Working so hard to serve everyone’s wants is what’s killing the human race. While simultaneously missing out on the needs. Like stability. Home life. Humans where never meant to work 80 hours a week at some meaningless job, but capitalism doesn’t allow for society to change. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Ftnast]

Improve working and financial conditions and there will be enough nurses.

[@jad1079]

My fear is that governments (particularly in the United States) may respond by taking birth control away from women. It's not a problem now, but I could see it becoming a problem in the coming decades. It's important for voters to support politicians who will protect access to contraception.

[@h8h215]

With freedom comes responsibility, not going to be responsible? Then your freedoms should be restricted. Doing away with birth control would increase men and womens success in relationships, dont just look at the bad things look at the good that can come from it.

[@jad1079]

@@h8h215 I don't know if what you say in your second paragraph is true. But I do know that women contribute a lot to the economy by working outside the home. Women are able to work outside the home because they have control over family planning (via contraception) and are able to delay or forgo having kids.

[@h8h215]

@@jad1079 are you suggesting without birth control women cant plan there careers and family at the same time? Why cant they delay without birth control?

[@nah131]

they will ban "sex" for sure!

[@karlwheatley1244]

@@h8h215 "Doing away with birth control would increase men and womens success in relationships," What a messed up comment. Now th=at we have figured out birth control, taking it away would be medieval. The problems with relationships lie elsewhere.

[@amerlibmov]

So you want to increase the population? For how long? Until there are unsolvable population problems like in the Third World? Is that your only solution to economic growth? Surely there’s another way.

[@jhford1234]

I have 3 kids and plan to have more. People often blame cost of living on why they don't have more kids, but they don't want to forgo fancy cars or vacations if it meant having another kid. They'd rather have more freedom than raise children.

[@lirenzeng592]

IF there is no consumerism, a lot of these problem will go away.

[@kashif7811]

people don't want to bring more misery to this doomed planet

[@peggyharris3815]

I guess they changed their mind. They told us that there were too many of us and we were depleting the earth's resources. 🤔 (That's when we were approaching only 7 billion)

[@LaFonteCheVi]

Nobody changed their mind. The whole overpopulation thing was always propaganda for the green movement.

[@demodiums7216]

You are both comically wrong. The problem is lack of YOUNG people. We are only overpopulated with boomers

[@karlwheatley1244]

@@LaFonteCheVi "The whole overpopulation thing was always propaganda for the green movement." NO, the overpopulation thing WAS and IS a real problem. The Earth can't support 8.1 billion people living a life anywhere close to what people in western societies think is a decent living standards. That is why the health of ecosystems is deteriorating and biodiversity is plummeting.

[@lokijordan]

The world has embraced the worship of capitalism. This winner take all paradigm where wealth is eventually concentrated in the hands of the few means that everybody else has to work increasingly harder to stay afloat. This means no time for kids because, as we all know, time is money. The fact that the wealthy average above three kids hardly seems coincidental.

[@annoulaz8284]

We are middle class and would have another child. We simply can’t afford it.

[@captkeebz]

there's still a middle class? it's like the black rhino

[@alphaomega1351]

Good 👍! This is great news. At no time even in 1st world countries has poverty been abolished. Until a system can be developed that provides every living human being what they need to survive and thrive, more humans is not the answer. Take care of those already here first! Quality over Quantity!!! 😳

[@LaFonteCheVi]

It isn't good news for every human alive today. It will result in global collapse and decline in quality of life. More wars, more famines, more revolutions. A massive catastrophe. "Until a system can be developed that provides every living human being what they need to survive and thrive" Impossible and against the foundation of how nature operates.

[@elephantmoney]

This is good. Resources are finite

[@Hubert_old]

I think there are people who want kids but it’s financial suicide and a massive lifestyle change.

[@BenP-ue5zn]

It’s gonna be so funny when y’all realize fertilizing with petroleum based products wasn’t a good idea and is the direct source of this. But they’ll blame literally everything besides that. The gays, plastic, economic situation, whatever. You’re watching birth rates drop because of the fertilizers you’re using globally to grow food.

[@martintheguitarist]

Not enough consumers? Then why are prices going up? Less demand should drive prices down not up.

[@kittydaddy2023]

government interference in the market

[@phoenixrising4995]

Government bloat. If you increase G in the GDP calculation you can make a nations GDP look better than it really is. The I in GDP needs more weight in order to properly assess the situation.

[@CountryMusic19854]

Because supply is falling with demand. Hence the inflation. Businesses need to make profit. Without profit, businesses disappear. In the U.K. 90% of livestock is on the extinction list because they’re not economically viable.

[@kittydaddy2023]

@@CountryMusic19854 In America there was a huge beef cull a year or two ago that caused meat prices to go down and the cattle ranchers lost a bunch of money. Now there isn't beef in the system like there used to be. I'm sure if you look into the other production industries you'll find various stories like that. We've seen big chicken kills, too.

[@leonie563]

Women know that as humans we see time ahead of heat sinks, food insecurity, water insecurity, wars and poverty from joblessness. Nothing is free unlike our parents or grandparents had. Team that cost burden with housing costs and not unsurprisingly we are seeing if we can't house ourselves even if working, how can we provide for kids? The fact that parents aren't adjusting to that reality and choosing to live separately and pool resources gives us an idea of policy changes needed.

[@hkonhelgesen]

Population decline is fewer mouths to feed. Which is only good for the economy.

[@UniDeathRaven]

you forgot that you live in capitalism? the entire point of capitalism is to make profits. If population collapse, we wouldn't need capitalism then.

[@CountryMusic19854]

No, the economy needs growth. Growth is growth in population. When population declines, so does the economy 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@user-qr4sj8xm3f]

He didn't take into account poor countries, Africa and Islam. They are all increasing in population exponentially

[@vladimirgorea8714]

Not exactly, population growth there is decreasing. Not reaching loss of population yet but getting there in a few years

[@phoenixrising4995]

Nigeria as of 2023 was at 4 births per woman. In 2011 that was projected at 6 births per woman. Eventually governments, especially Western ones will run out of people to import. I expect this to happen by the mid 2030s.

[@Outerghost559]

@@phoenixrising4995 they also die in their 50's

[@martintheguitarist]

8 billion people is not enough???

[@earlreid6811]

With less population who is going to pay our massive debt?

[@captkeebz]

debt's a myth the world is waking up from quickly. without that engineered cudgel the world is plentiful. they quantify debt in fiat currency of another depleted empire? lol. that stuff is worthless as are those who claim to have accumulated empire's worth of assets scamming their neighbors.

[@natashadickson4819]

It won't be paid. Roman Empire dissolved and smaller countries emerged in its place. Countries form unions and federations...like the UK, USSR, EU, USA, etc. Some fare better than others.

[@effexon]

sir, simple: salaries just double, same tax revenue. something's gotta give.

[@UniDeathRaven]

If there's no country, there's no debt. They will blow things up for that reason.

[@RusTsea196T]

I guess all of the ultra wealthy who hold that debt as assets will have to write it off

[@VitaSineLibertatenih]

It's not about affordability. Homo sapiens used to breed like rabbits in prehistoric times. The reason is quite obvious : there is just much better use of people's free time (endless new forms of entertainment, endless new content etc) than embarking on a very long and tiresome quest of having children with no obvious pay-off. Since there is no instinct to have children in Homo sapiens apes, they will always lose to high speed mobile internet. Unless incentives are drastically changed (people being paid full-time salary for years for having children) nothing will change. P.S. Anybody who tries to argue can check for themselves the time they spend each day/week/month on content consumption and what could have happened if they redirected that time to the goal of having children (finding a suitable partner, new sources of income etc) Children just can't compete

[@VitaSineLibertatenih]

Oh and porn takes care of sexual urges while contraception and abortion can ensure you there are no unwanted children at all.

[@davidlai399]

It’s about resources. Kids used to help put food on family tables. In the current education-centric world, children are a drain of family resources.

[@LaFonteCheVi]

"The reason is quite obvious : there is just much better use of people's free time (endless new forms of entertainment, endless new content etc) than embarking on a very long and tiresome quest of having children with no obvious pay-off. " False modernist mindset. "Since there is no instinct to have children in Homo sapiens apes, they will always lose to high speed mobile internet. " Self-selecting out of the gene pool. Unsustainable. Short-term gratification seeking behavior that has no longevity. Leads to collapse.

[@garfunkle37]

Yeah keep thinking this way. It’s working out great so far.

[@natashadickson4819]

Depopulation is like winter which is a bleak, dormant period to be followed by a blooming springtime. Depopulation is hibernation, not death.

[@markkeown9532]

It is impossible to find natural resources at the same rate as (past) population growth. Can you imagine doubling food production, steel production, copper production, potable water, housing, everything.... in 40 years then do it again in 30 years, then do it in 15 years...?

[@effexon]

we even have trouble in simplest of that: energy and needed infrastructure.(with simple I mean it is roughly build once and then get energy by maintenance, all those others need constant work and material flows)

[@RusTsea196T]

Especially in a world in which climate change/disruption will be actively moving things (habitable area, food production, water resources, population migration, etc. ) in the opposite direction.

[@fr57ujf]

The threat isn't population decline, it is the fact that the human population has grown way beyond the ability of the planet to sustain it.

[@CountryMusic19854]

Rubbish. The planets never been greener or healthier. Everything we need can easily be produced. It just society cannot organise itself with capitalism in charge, so it’s wasteful. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@natashadickson4819]

The most important resources are all renewable. Water must be returned to the land because more areas are becoming desert while the sea levels rise.

[@fr57ujf]

Modern civilization would not exist without fossil fuels which are not renewable.

[@MichaelHalsell]

Having children falls into the category of 'nice to have' vs 'need to have'.

[@MichaelHalsell]

Every human activity has now been financially weaponized.

[@NoctLightCloud]

imo it's also social cohesion. I live in Western Europe and have zero loyalty to my country. 50% of people here are already foreign-born or 2nd gen migrants. I just don't see myself living here with kids long-term. It's getting more unsafe by the year, especially in schools. Traditions, country-specific festivals, and symbols are fading away. I don't want to have kids so that the state can grin from ear to ear for having received one more hollow future tax payer for this madness. Second reason: It used to be easier to raise kids in a huge village. You open your front door and there were already kids/other women eager to play with your toddler and care for it while you live and breathe for a moment. My cousin got her first child 2yrs ago, and she couldn't catch a break. Imagine this: Your partner is at work, your parents are at work, the kids are all at school/kidergarden, the neighbours are at work. You're basically on your own, with a sometimes randomly crying, crawling chaotic human you need to care for 24/7 for *years* . How can you even go take a shower? That's so utter unnatural and even a bit inhumane/cruel to the soul. Third reason: Expectations at your job and from the government. I am expected to work like a robot. My colleague, who was pregnant, was asked constantly by her colleagues when is she going to return to work. Let her breathe ffs!

[@anthony212459]

For men its barely worth it to have kids. 1 they are expensive and things are just getting more expensive. 2 women can use their kids against men and have all the power if things dont work out. Me hearing I got a woman pregnant would be one of the worst things I could hear.

[@donnadavies7012]

Hearing that you got a woman pregnant?? To avoid the bleak situation you described, MARRIAGE should come before planning a family

[@mcphersonjohnathon]

Marriage is also a risk for men, just saying.

[@donnadavies7012]

It's a risk for women as well. Chose wisely

[@anthony212459]

@@donnadavies7012 No everything is great if the relationship is great. But the odds are not in that favor, and women effectively own men after everything falls apart. They have the power to brainwash their kids and take the fathers freedom if he rebels. Its disgusting. Men are deemed the trash of society and we built this shit! We need to take back our power and not having kids its part of that dynamic. This society is f*****.

[@natashadickson4819]

A man can marry a young woman, give her a child or two, and then leave them. The financial burden falls upon the woman and the welfare state.

[@goldensilver793]

There no problem with population decline when global resources should be conserved ..

[@effexon]

true, we seem to be post peak oil and still nowhere near good alternative for that has been around... it may be just around corner of course as scientists are hard at work but that is difficult to fully replace. then there are other similar resources that are finite, or cheaper locations are finite for the very least.

[@donnadavies7012]

There are demographics that are having multiple babies - migrants and Muslims.

[@AlexD-os8hw]

Even they are dropping. 20 years ago, the rate of children for a country like Pakistan or Bangladesh was 6 per woman. Pakistan has already fallen to 2.1. Bangladesh is heading there.

[@effexon]

@@AlexD-os8hw pakistan has over 200million people so it is understandable. nobody enjoys poor life. bangladesh also has lot of population vs any western country.

[@AlexD-os8hw]

@@effexon It's not a criticism. It's a statement of fact that even in less developed and less urban countries, birth rates are falling very fast. To some degree I think it has to do with rising energy prices world wide, and in other ways it has to do with people having fewer children when population density increases, something which all mammals do instinctively.

[@effexon]

@@AlexD-os8hw yea I meant in poor country also it can stabilize... when city is full, no room for more people. also countryside can get full of people. Energy prices recent years risen and have hit poor countries, so even if there was food, they think carefully how to afford heating house.

[@corey8924]

Pay the people enough to afford a family and tax the rich or capitalism will fail.

[@wayne0320]

No problem for US. We have endless influx of Mexicans here.

[@egblund]

With the attacks on women’s healthcare in the US - especially in red states, I am hearing of young men and women opting for voluntary sterilization. There are also new laws against IVF. This seems to be counter intuitive to promoting young families…

[@SoulfulVeg]

The infinite growth model isn't going ro cut it moving forward.

[@orenschulman4554]

Whatever. In 1960 the world's population was 3 billion and the world was fine. A few years ago everyone was scared of overpopulation. No we are going the other way. A less populated world sounds lovely, sorry investors wont be able to make the same profits.

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[@thomaslawson4253]

the us is rapidly depleting it's ground water ( 30% of food production requires irrigation )and shale oil. within a decade at most we will face food and gas shortages which will cause social unrest. i think a slowing of our population growth is the least of our problems. overpopulation destroys quality of life and shortages of energy and food.

[@Adam-ey3ud]

The solution is stop giving all of the country’s money to boomers

[@Chuck68ify]

I keep seeing this bullshit, who do you think built this economy? 56 million people made money for everyone, from diapers to gravestones. Are you listening to this program? It was a baby boom!

[@natashadickson4819]

The money is so devalued that it doesn't matter who you give it to. They create it out of thin air. The Treasury don't even print most of it anymore because 97% of the total money supply is digital, not paper or coins. Paper notes and coins are 3%...the rest is just digits on your debit card, paid by digital direct deposit.

[@geraldthomas9281]

What are you going on about.

[@Adam-ey3ud]

135B increase to social security vs 11B increase for child tax credits in 2024 on top of this monster asset rally is all that really needs said. Politicians are willfully ignoring the productive part of the population. Why would we want to have kids and damage the little window of opportunity we have at financial well being

[@feleciawallace8420]

Giving all monies to Boomers - that's not happening, nonsense ...

[@bobiq]

I actually can't wait

[@hl3493]

I like that he's honest about people simply not wanting to have kids. Look at most young women today, do you think they would make good girlfriends/wives/mothers? Or in turn, do most young guys have what it needs to be a husband and father? I guess this is an important cultural factor and I think it's the most important one. If you really want to have children, have a stable realtionship with a partner also wanting children, you can adjust spending to be able to afford children. But if you struggling finding a partner or don't even want one, well, no surprise we are not having children.

[@RusTsea196T]

At some point “adjusting spending” to afford kids in an economy where people are struggling to afford shelter and food becomes “birthing children into poverty”. Nobody wants that.

[@danmoreman954]

In 1972 the fertility rate in the USA was 2.4. Today it is closer to 1.8. The fertility rate among women who have children has remained relatively constant at 2.5. What has changed is the number of women who do not have children. This was 5% in 1972 and roughly 25% today. Of the women who do not have children only about 20% say they did not want children. The others either didn’t find the right time or waited too long. Among people of faith more than 90% of the women have children. Among Atheists and agnostics only a little more than 50% have children. Until we diagnose the problem, no solution is going to be effective. Listening to the proposed remedies of these people is tedious and just wrong.

[@domcizek]

IN THE FUTURE, LESS SCHOLLS ARE NEEDED, MORE NURSING HOMES, LESS RESTURANTS, LESS HOME DEPOT'S, LOWES, MORE GREEN SPACE'S, MORE AVAILABLE HOUSING, LOTS OF EMPTY HOUSES, WITH LOWER PRICES,

[@kevinc2821]

Every species eventually goes extinct

[@raymond_luxury_yacht]

Isn't the ideal population 500m? WEF must be pleased they gonna reach their target.

[@phoenixrising4995]

Yes it sure is.

[@kgetz3]

Polling does NOT show people “don’t want children.” People are worried about cost and career penalty. So most of that comes down to finances…

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

I’m female and married . We have one child . I grew up working class and there was NO WAY I was gonna have 3 kids and be broke ! No thanks

[@user-kj7vh5ik1o]

Seniors may not consume a lot of goods, but they do pay for a lot of services.

[@windfall35]

Having kids has never been a function of whether you can ‘afford’ them. What’s eroding the birth rate is societal ‘modernity’ - a generation that is much more invested in their own happiness than ever before…I’m not saying that it’s wrong. It simply is.

[@omicron2018]

Of course, a couple centuries ago the average lifespan for a male was around 40 years old. Women gambled with their lives every time they gave birth. Life was short, nasty, and brutish. There was really no point in aspiring to (or considering the consequences of) anything. So what if you had 6 children? Two of them were likely to die before ever reaching adulthood. Society was SO much better back then!

[@Alan-lv9rw]

I’m 62. I’ll be long gone.

[@Steril707]

I have to pay 750 euros every month for two kids I made. No wonder nobody wants to have kids anymore if it gets you to the edge of poverty.

[@shawtvision]

this out of touch researcher needs to have a real street life. the primary reason why ppl are not having kids are obviously because they can not afford to do so. Even if any young ppl want to raise kids in this mega inflationary, stagflationary enviro' , it is practically impossible. Darrell needs to work at homedepot where he can utilize his skill or just retire and just spend his money into the economy.

[@user-lb8bg6kj9m]

He has to be careful what he says as he could be black balled ⚾ by the elites who want to keep the majority enslaved in debt, keep thr central bank scam going, corrupt the politicians...etc

[@ALANGREENSPAN420]

🚨BLACK🚨SWAN🚨SEASON🚨

[@owenbenson7650]

fewer people, people are more valued. Population decline is a necessity.

[@comet392]

People like this are selfish and greedy. They see others as livestock. They don't care about quality of life such as the adults forced to live on the street, the adults forced to live with their parents and the orphaned forced to live in shelters. It's interesting that they see living longer and women having a better education as a bad/negative thing.

[@mindingownbiz]

He lost his credibility when he said humans are causing climate change.

[@emphyrio]

Please keep refusing the obvious. Keep denying and the population will decrease anyway.

[@harlzberg6068]

Canada can continue with immigration from Asia, Africa and South America where there is no population collapse issues.

[@phoenixrising4995]

South America is at 1.8 births per woman and India as of 2021 is at 2.0 births per woman. Eventually our politicians will not be able to continue this and just give us all the MAID treatment.

[@CameroonDiaz845]

This topic is published in all news network in same time like a clock work. Clearly, wolves are worried, that sheeps are not multiplying.