Kang FEARED Doctor Doom From The START! THERE'S ACTUAL PROOF!

[@frankmurph32]

I love how when you use material from other channels you give props. There’s so many channels that clearly use content from others and try to pass it as their own. You’re a real one for that.

[@RushStriker9]

@@frankmurph32 fr I love this tho. Channels in the same communities should totally shout each other out! I watched Screen Crush’s vid before this too 🤣

[@kennyrazor81]

i didnt scan comments for the possibility that i was the only one who thought this but hear me out: So kang removed doom, what if the coming RDJ Doom, pulled off the switcheroo in college bc thru magic he learned about Kang, and so to hide in the multiverse he switched with Stark

[@edgardopereles9966]

The robot exclusion on the TVA sounds more for Ultron. Because Ultron in the MCU is creation of Tony and Bruce. The idea can work.

[@Blancossi]

It was a knod to the eternals not knowing they were machines being reproduced at the world forge

[@edgardopereles9966]

@Blancossi , I forgot the Eternals too. Do they can hack the systems in TVA? Not, but they can contact the Celestials.

[@thacyphakc]

Marvel did Majors kinda dirty..they coulda gave him a shot

[@diaz2985]

💯

[@davidbarnes7155]

I agree, with Cap and Iron man gone, Kang was about to carry the MCU. The last episode of Loki was a must see for me. He played that part so great. Loki season 2 was great with him in it. Antman 3 was good because Kang was doing his thing. They really need to bring him back

[@chrayondrayjohnson1635]

It's the Disney CEO that did him dirty.

[@lukeydukey20]

I actually hope they bring Jonathan Majors back for secret wars.

[@frankwilkie3354]

Majors deserves to finish the Kang story

[@lukeydukey20]

@ he messed up, but he’s a great actor. I am believer in second chances.

[@elroyhoyabembe4828]

@@lukeydukey20how did he mess up? By running away from a woman attacking him? 😭

[@ChillQuest992]

Bruh 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@cdogg46]

if not involve him in the mutant saga afterwards

[@KyleV-x9n]

They can definitely build up Kang in a perfect way to make him the big bad for the mutant saga !

[@jamesritter4813]

Yeah I wish they would. However there more than likely not. Which imo stinks. Johnathan majors had a wonderfull opportunity to play all dofferent versions of himself. I heard he just won his trial or it was dropped in his favor. Marvel should pick him back up. Marvel stated he is done with Marvel sadly

[@ChristianC-m4u]

​@@jamesritter4813nahh you can't just drop an actor for allegations than invite them back and Disney and all those feminist leftist clowns over there always does this and ruin movies for dropping their actors before any proof ever surfaces they did the same shit with Johnny Depp he said he wouldn't come back to disney if they paid him $500m

[@Denza.]

Now the REAL issue is WILL the MCU address This???? Which EVEN if its just a Couple Scene I WANT some sort of connective tissue that explains Dr.Droom and Kang or all the KANGs relationship one way or another . I dont want to just sweep it under the run with NO explaination. Its the MCUs greatest asset .... Continuity & Connective Story Telling that allows EVERYTHING in the MCU to fit TOGETHER some way and some how. Just having Dr Doom become the most powerful being wih no explanation would REALY cheapen this Saga. It would make the Connective StoryTelling of this Arc Like Lokis Story POINTLESS. ALL OF THE STORYTELLING POINTLESS ! The Void, Multiple Universes, the Xmen post Credit scene from The Marvels... ALL POINTLESS if they cant atleast have a scene of DrDoom taking the powers from Kang Or atleast taking everything away from what Kang once had which helps continue the same continuity I might actually become less involved in the MCU if they cant spend 5mins and explain why Kang isnt the Big Bad anymore. It would Cheapen EVERYTHING and the MCU has to atleast point this out For the next Decade we will think (Or atleast Myself) every Marvel Saga wont have to be Followed like a Story (which means less involvement / Interest from the Audience) b/c Every bad decision can just be changed/Ret-Con by the Next MCU Project which weakensthe continuity of the Overall Product and is Bad for Business.

[@Quisee]

We just made very similar comments. I agree. You can't act like Kang is just solved after explaining how he works. It just would totally take me out the emergence of the whole mcu

[@ScottSpenceNoneTheRicher]

Hawkeye slept with that Wanda-bot 😂

[@owenreece3554]

Some of this might be legit, especially if we think about the fact that in the MCU Tony invented the Multiversal travel technology

[@HennyBuBuProductions]

This was a fun ride! I caught onto the robot/android thing when Loki dropped, figured this was a thread to either give us a fight with Ultron, Doom, or some sort of LMD/Doombot scenario. Great video.

[@davidcolon3995]

So Kang is The Architect from The Matrix? If so, which incarnation of the MCU are we watching?

[@elisandroku]

that gatekeeper keeps out not only doom bots but also synthezoids (vision, ultron, etc), sentinels (also versions like nimrod) and synthetic beings (eternals)

[@darlingtonokorie2474]

Also, we saw in Guardians that people were messing around in different planets and creating synthetic beings out of machines and lower animals.

[@themarveldctheorist3261]

sending those daily positive vibes from Houston everyone!

[@TheQuincyEdwards]

They need to bring Jonathan Majors back to end his character of Kang at least.

[@Itssheed]

Bring him back, ABSOLUTELY.... But he doesn't need to ended

[@johndlasley]

Majors should just move on from Marvel, focus on the future and more promising projects.

[@idlefritz]

The DOOM intro should have been him curb stomping the Council of Kang, rolling back to his castle, receiving a warning from some sorcerytech talisman and being forced to release the FF from the Quantum Zone prison he banished them to in their first encounter back in the 60s. 15 minutes intro tops that sets Doom up as the ultimate badass that still has to rely on Reed's brain at the end of the day. The climax reveals Reed and the FF ending the ultimate threat of Doom using the power of *family* and the relationships they built in exile to topple the lone wolf egomaniac.

[@timothymichael7552]

If your theory about doom and Ironman are variants in the 616, it gives them an in universe explanation for the recast of Ironman after the soft reboot

[@lavryadam4774]

That's a great point!

[@tonycumberbatch7651]

Unbelievable.. Kang The Conqueror a highly technologically advanced Super Villain is scared of Dr Doom.. No I'm not buying that. The Multiverse War being fought between an army of Doom Bots and The Council of Kang's, now that's plausible, as they can both be Sentient Synthetic Super Powered Life Forms. Hmm.! Wasn't the the plot line for The Eternals.

[@adampeabody963]

0:18 I literally said that (more or less) in a comment to another of your videos! Speculation to be sure, but it makes sense as to why Tony Stark is an altered variant of Doom.

[@discovergamescinema9220]

RDJ is the definitive Dr Doom actual doom from another universe he's not a tony stark who turning into Doom

[@FrostDJakki3529]

KZbin content creators look at their comments and when they see a good one they try to pass it off as their own. Without giving the actual idea maker credit. It happens all the time. And it's annoying. That's why you should just make your own videos and don't leave a comment.

[@adampeabody963]

@@discovergamescinema9220 that's what I was getting at. Every appearance of RDJ was always Dr Doom from the beginning. This only attests to the theory I mentioned and clearly had taken from me 🤨. Supposedly Kang fears doom so much that he'll alter every variant of Doom in whatever way he can so that doom is alway out of the picture. If that means that he has to have doom become a different character origin wise, like making RDJs Doom into the Tony Stark/ Ironman we all know, then he'll do it. Yes, this is all theory and speculation, but it's already so clear that this is a path they're likely to take. I'm not saying they will. Just that it seems the most likely in my mind. That's all.

[@adampeabody963]

@@FrostDJakki3529 wish I had the resources, or the time to get them, to do that

[@antionephoenix]

You meant Captain America placed doubt in him as that screenshot suggests. Doom kept destroying Cap and the Beyonder who still had some power kept bringing him back to life. This threw Doom off. If you are talking about Secret Wars 2 then my guy, use those pics when you said Reed made him doubt himself.. Either way, it's a great video I just had to correct you there. Lol

[@nakeithabecton3599]

Tony's dad said his wife was pregnant in endgame so how would he be adopted

[@MarthaWilson-w5r]

brand new Kang in the mcu in 2025 today now yes are no 😍😍😍😍

[@DeezMatterz]

Man. Can you imagine? Wanda, or whatever alternative Mechanism, used to correct and return Doom, and then the Wanda Doom Version Plays Out... Epic

[@JuanPerez-ru5qt]

Maybe loki can be used as the power against the beyonder instead of molecule man. I still hope dr doom and dr strange team up to do it.

[@JustLaDarius78]

You’re explanation of all this pieces everything together so well! Sn I really hope they bring back Johnathan majors for all this eventually

[@IgoTpaynus69]

This actually makes sense. I give u props bro.

[@twindiezel1965]

Awesome video!!!! Your theories are pretty interesting.

[@lokilover1315]

I love this. everything makes sense when you add all of this up together. This would explain Loki intrudcing his sowrd, then at the last moment, he tossed it away instead of using it. Because Kang was even still lying to him.

[@PatrickChase198]

Kang, Doom & Knull intertwined to build up to a multiverse endgame event would be epic. #bringbackjonathanmajors

[@ro-landocalrissian4633]

We need Cable!

[@brendandegnan4983]

Tony gives a weird reaction when he was talking in the elevator with his father during endgame. I think he realized the timeline of his birth did not add up and that he was in fact not the son of howard stark. That scene was never resolved from what I could see, and that would be awesome to find out Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony was really an adopted doom variant.

[@kadencastro8168]

Nah. As much how cool that sounds… I don’t want the Tony that we grew up with be a doom variant. That means that Tony was never tony and we never had our actual Tony in the 616 universe

[@tjislost]

@@kadencastro8168I would love it!!!!!

[@MrCmsch]

I still would like to see all the 2012 avengers playing a different villain haha imagine the current avengers break through to doom’s universe and they see the og avengers they have to fight

[@DeezMatterz]

Okay Man... At the stipulation of 'My Version'... Knew im gon be blown away

[@RedMetalKills]

What if all of the non-connected MCU movies like blade, Spiderman, fantastic 4, ghost rider and all the varients are from an original timeline where they all existed together. I think that would be a pretty cool way of creating an overarching plot between all the marvel movie prior to the MCU. yeah at the same time since there’s multiple iterations of some of these characters, I don’t know that that way even work really

[@twindiezel1965]

That’s a really dope Spiderverse art print! Riccardi is a beast.. the Batman’s Rogues gallery is a must own

[@mr.canadian155]

Hawkeye is Billy and Tommy's grandfather. In Age of Ultron, Clint got shot and Dr.Cho used the cradle to heal him. Ultron uses the cradle to create a new body for himself using vibranium and organic tissue, Clint Barton's DNA was is the cradle. The body becomes Vision. Wanda needed DNA to create Billy and Tommy. The DNA that Vision has came from Hawkeye. Hawkeye is the grandfather of Billy &Tommy.

[@3RR0R210]

I like this idea.

[@xxmrtreyzxx]

What’s Chris Evans’s role in all this ?

[@epochrisy]

pretty neat theory when you consider what Sylvie says about Chaos. If Loki from the show is the one CHAOTIC creation from the universe that could actually stop Kang, then that would explain why it's the sacred timeline.

[@wheresupp_3365]

great job alot of info

[@doyscherr]

Kang also fears Scott Lang's right hook!

[@chavez503]

He beat the living shit out of Scott tf you talking about 😂

[@doyscherr]

@@chavez503 Marvel Cinema Kang lost a fist fight to Scott Lang.

[@Maxcarnage-rg1gv]

I like your theory about Tony, being a variant of Doom, but how do you explain away the exchange between Tony, and his dad, about his mom about to give birth in Avengers infinity war?

[@keithcase3205]

If RDJ's Tony Stark turns out to be a Doom variant, this opens the door for the MCU to introduce a more comic accurate, serious, and broody Tony Stark. He was never so chatty and funny before RDJ

[@DeezMatterz]

Love the final attendance of Kang (HWR) Sneaky and Deceptive as always is, moreso, in Loki... Completely and Absolutely, went about his Biz, from the getgo, All being Lies, to suit His selfserving Goals. Also, thanks for noting the Robot Being Connection to Doom as a Factor,as we naturally all realized, thereupon, hoped for, even from that onset

[@Itssheed]

Ima keep sayin it.... Re-Hire JONATHAN MAJORS as KANG the CONQUEROR!!!

[@Magdalena8008s]

Its not just that simple. Stories have now changed. Not only that. Maybe Majors doesn't want to come back. Or maybe he will show up. Id say he does to some degree. Point is. Marvel doesn't have to do anything YOU say. All they need to do is make quality content. Thats all that matters. No matter who's in it.

[@Itssheed]

@Magdalena8008s Relax buddy... Stories change all the time. Nothing is set in stone until the movie hits the silver Screen. I can say whatever I wanna say and can support whatever I want with my money. Just like you can. THE MAN SHOULDN'T BE FRIED. PERIOD. RE-HIRE JONATHAN MAJORS AS KANG THE CONQUEROR. ITS IS THAT SIMPLE.

[@AlejandroCamilo-k9g]

@@Magdalena8008s Jonathan Majors expresses his admiration for Kang and makes it clear that, while he understands the circumstances that led to his firing, he would like to have the same chance at redemption that was given to other actors like Downey Jr. and Ezra Miller, who also faced legal problems but they were able to continue their careers in big projects. All in all, it sounds like a moment of reflection for Majors, acknowledging both the severity of the situation and his love for the character and his desire to continue being a part of the Marvel universe if circumstances allow.

[@iambarryallen]

@@AlejandroCamilo-k9gfr like Hollywood pedo executives do worse evil daily and theyre still in position. If theyre gonna give others a chance do the lesser evil right atleast finish the story. We dont really care about the actor nobody even knows him. Just finish the story. They wasted everyones time for years just to put back RDJ and retcon sht

[@x9thousand8]

THEORY CRAFTING W! this video will blow up in 2026

[@danmorris2955]

Could any of this explain where the 616 X-men are?

[@gazwilliams-nc7jp]

Its a good theory that Tony Stark was always Doctor Doom, but after your first theorised it, i started thinking, and i really dont think theyre going to Retcon the best part of the MCU, and make Tony Stark Victor all along, especially with all the hate Marvel get now It makes way more sense for them to elaborate on that What If story, where Doom swaps bodies with Tony As its an actual story from another universe It also opens up the potential for them to swap back, so we get the RDJ Doom, but then in the future reveal the ACTUAL new Doom Actor, and potentially put Stark back into his own body, if RDJ wants to continue as a Varient of himself I even thought of a post credit scene for Fantastic 4 Where it flashes back to when Reed and Victor were college roommates, but its not Reed who went college with Doom in that alternate universe, but Tony Stark did instead It shows a guy we dont know and dont see the face of, walking to his room, and as he opens the door, a young Tony Stark is sat there and says "Oh hey Vic, just been going over these calculations of yours, and something seems off" Insinuating Doom is lying to Stark about what the machine theyre working on together actually does

[@imperiousa1413]

I'm still not 100% sold if a Doom variant was such a threat why move them around in the timeline at all why not just cull them from the timeline. Also, why remove mutants (even if he was trying to prevent Wanda) seems smarter to just remove the Darkhold and magic from the timeline and prevent the Scarlet Witch prophecy all together. I feel like there is still a little something, something missing somewhere in all this.

[@thedarkknight7287]

I still have a problem with Robert Downey Jr playing Doctor Doom. Maybe it will get explained he is no Victor Von Doom, but it's hard to say given the different things we have seen with the MCU lately.

[@RalphBloemendaal]

There are many brilliant points in there. I dispute that Doom has the full power of a Sorcerer Supreme, though he is a powerful Sorcerer.

[@KINGKID07]

Bro that was a 16 min reach. Cool theory but we know Kang was the next big bad definitively. Marvel screwed themselves when KANG (your next bad) got beat by Antman and it was received terribly. He should sent Antman to the upper room to really make him meaningful, as opposed to a throw away line a bout axing Avengers.

[@QISNOTAROBOT]

Great Video Josh

[@benjaminwhite3585]

Josh, this is your best theory video ever!!!!! If you're right, i'm gonna be royally pissed at you for spoiling Doomsday and Secret Wars!!!!!!

[@DecafHobgoblin5]

something i never understood is if the idea that variants that are in the wrong timelines or are doing things that aren't supposed to happen then it would cause incursions, so how come there isn't a ton of those happening all the time in 616 if that timeline wasn't actually supposed to happen that way because it was all schemed by he who remains at the end of time? that just feels like a big unanswered issue with the whole storytelling they have going on right now and needs to be addressed for it all to make sense to me but with the actor who plays kang being removed after all that stuff it seems they might just skip over it or leave it open to interpretation i guess

[@DeezMatterz]

Okay. Beautiful Man... Mind Gratefully Blown

[@dustinnissley9335]

Okay! Hear me out! Spoilers for WandaVision & Agatha All Along • • • • In AAL it’s revealed that Agatha has the ability to suck the power/life out of anyone who blasts her, in the finale of WV Wanda drains all of Agatha’s power, gaining the same ability without getting hit. What if Wanda is the one to take all of Doom’s power? Idk

[@cnslusser]

This is pretty solid! If it’s not Disney’s plan already, maybe it should be! 😎

[@TheKASH303]

No secret wars without doom. This is no different than Thanos showing up at the end of the last saga. Kang from quantummania should be molecule man and beyonder.

[@godsmystery564]

No one is mentioning Gregory Stark which could put an interesting twist to all of this.

[@DonnieCongo]

Been a sub since the beginning. 1st comment though. STELLAR TAKE JOEH!!! I can definitely see this coming to pass. Fingers AND Toes Crossed. Ennnnjoy your weekend!✌🏿

[@McGoofy1001]

Charges on majors were dropped. I think Disney might course correct and try to find a way to give us both.

[@tommyharvey8007]

What if....RDJ Doom is actually a DoomBot modeled to look like Tony Stark and the real Doom is somewhere else?

[@kennyrazor81]

ok if RDJ is the legit VVD then Tom Cruise would have to be the true tony stark

[@Builltru]

Bro. How can you do a video on why Kang is afraid of Doom and not bring up 2018 Doctor Doom run where Kang gets his throat slight???? Ruthless!

[@DeezMatterz]

Just hope they don't forcibly present him as sympathetic, for perceived CashGrab, given Thanos being Idolized as such. This must be done as True Fan Perpective Approach

[@narcosys6934]

That one photo of RDJ as Doom looks more like Luke Evans, who absolutely has the face and ability to play as Doom. He might have been better imo if they didn't need RDJ to save time MCU

[@mister_ious]

Lied to literally everyone he interacted with. Only the Victor Timely variant seemed like a more honest type, but even he was intentionally neutered by his own variant to be a bullet point in his plan. And if he's willing to do that to himself he definitely has no issue doing that to any and everyone else. If he can't eliminate them from the timeline, just manipulate their path instead to bend his way.

[@DeezMatterz]

Now this, I've gotta hear

[@SaBastian_DeKrabbe]

That's actually Dope AF. - But most importantly, can we agree that Capn America needs the SSS?

[@brendonohagan1946]

Yeah I am curious about him fighting big red without it

[@BrandonPhillips-f5z]

Kang already came back in time to mentor and guide the only person he was scared of. And that was apocalypse. Doom is already long dead in his time and how it was done. So he’s already got the answer on handling that problem. Otherwise he’d terminator 2 his ass and kill his mom before he was born.

[@Quisee]

I mean good video, but it wouldn't make sense that's it's a variant in the 616 that Kang put there. The only way this makes sense is if that variant was going to become the dr doom he's afraid of which would make he's dead now and you can't create another one. I think the only way this works, is if 616 doom was kidnapped at birth and raised to be Tony Starks and Doom family raised what should've been Tony Starks as Victor Von Doom. Being Tony isn't Victor, he never became doom but Doom became IronMan. The way they could try to flip it, is to simply create Doom in another universe (As RDJ) that was never kidnapped or adopted. That kid ends up becoming similar to our ironman. Instead of creating ultron, he creates doom bots. Instead of time traveling, he discovers the multi verse. So instead of trying to prevent earth from being attacked and creating security, he learns the multiverse is caving and once to save life as it's on course to be gone completely now that HWR is gone. That gives him pretty much the same goals as "Tony". Gives him an understandable motive and would be an easy way to explain him building his army to protect battle world. They have to figure out some way to explain our Ironman and Victor. Otherwise it's going to come off cheap. To say Kang is afraid they would HAVE to recast but really to make it make it sense would have to bring Jonathan back. Honestly at this point, this story really doesn't work unless at some point Kang is involved

[@T-BoneStone]

Shoulda wore a chef hat for this one! You were cooking with grease my dude!

[@DominiqueSciacqua]

I JUST LOVEDDDD THIS VIDEO!!!! yes ye syes

[@mattwilburn9039]

I was thinking it could be multiverse avengers with mutants

[@virtualrealityfitness283]

Does anybody read comics Doom and Kang can’t kill each other they are related!

[@Blancossi]

I wonder if theyll work iron lad into it like the comics source material between kang and doom.

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

I've always hated Kang as a character (not just a villain). Anybody who can move through time is unbeatable. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. You can always win. Kang is a Mary Sue. I hate the character Superman for the same reason. What can Superman NOT do? He's invulnerable. In the movies, he actually went back in time to save Lois Lane's life. Superman is a Mary Sue.

[@Slickmoneycams]

This kinda supports dr strange and Tony’s arguments for magic vs science deep down Tony knew

[@Janju76]

Stupid question, but how should Kang exist without Reed Richards existing. This makes no sense.

[@josemaiz1651]

Cause iron lad from Ironman 3 he a kang

[@boosnakejones]

Stark/Doom variant means one of them doesn’t actually exist. It doesn’t make sense

[@jm2621]

It should be more like the Spider-Man animated series and have doom take the beyonders power ‘so he thinks’ and they use the same device to take the power out of doom and then the game is over

[@thacyphakc]

And dont forget about FF ..i think itll answer questions we forgot to ask😅

[@thetjdman]

This is such a stretch. We all know why they dropped Kang. Trying to back peddle and act like this was Marvel's plan all along.

[@raymondsutton6348]

No, he’s just taking the new Doctor Doom story we’re getting and plugging it into what already exists.

[@michaelmercury1297]

Yeah it wasn't their plan all along but this is good and would work.

[@mikeyj7824]

They could have also been trying not to let eternals in.

[@ronself1979]

Great Long Video

[@Overbound]

Crosses Arms.... you've been hyping up this video HC... lets see what ya got!!! lolol :D Hope it blows up for ya Josh.

[@johndlasley]

This is goofy. They don't put that much thought in these movies. MCU needs a reboot with X-men.

[@jayhustle74]

He didn't lie to her when̈ she mentioned being his partner that sethim off !young king studied doom and doombots before going back in time ! I knew stark was doom when they said he was adopted remember capt asked who is he and even his real parents were wealthy and highly intelligent!

[@KevinGonzalez-hd7rt]

I don’t like the “adoption” story. I think a “switched at birth” by Kang or the TVA story is much better. If he was adopted I think it just takes a lot away from the Infinity Saga. I.e. “my greatest creation will always be you”

[@Kang980]

he even has his variants as a fail safe to explode worlds Kang hand it down to the t he definatley was afriad

[@edkoberstein912]

That’s Awesome

[@Alex365x]

As for him possibly being afraid of mutants, he definitely fears Apocalypse (the first mutant). No mutants = no Apocalypse.

[@TerrellAustin19941]

Great

[@lavryadam4774]

But what would that say about the mutants as a whole though??

[@graymoon3000]

I’m not feeling the iron man is doom theory at all. Stark can be himself. The same as Johnny storm is Captain American

[@DarthFernando57]

Why are tomatoes laying on the background floor?

[@TheFanClubReview]

Soooo are we saying that Kang created the 616 Universe? 🤯🧐🤔

[@flygon117]

Cool theory but let’s just admit marvel didn’t know what they were doing 😅 they should have used the dr doom character from the start lol

[@QISNOTAROBOT]

It's called theory crafting. Plus, Marvel didn't have the rights to Doom from jump.

[@flygon117]

@@QISNOTAROBOT I know I know but still they shouldnt have not push out phase 4 until they had dr doom, like a little break from the infinity saga. Brain storm for the future of the mcu while acquiring the rights to those characters

[@QISNOTAROBOT]

@@flygon117 I feel you, but I think the only mistake was not having a full plan while simultaneously going all in on Majors after seeing dailies from S1 of Loki. All the while, runor has it, Fiegie focused on Secret Wars, and the people he left in charge let him down. Don't forget the writer strike ruined and slowed down the momentum as well. We should have been past all this content and into Secret Wars by now.

[@UltimateSpider1385]

Doctor Doom will reign supreme!!!

[@1.idz24]

Retcon after retcon i see 😂

[@markanderson7236]

6:38

[@Overbound]

I hope to god Tony isn't Doom variant. Because We'll NEVER hear the end of it. This is a very informative video tho.

[@mr.m2695]

Tbh it wouldn’t make sense to make him a variant. If he wasn’t iron man it would. But since he was it make sense that doom would be his antihero version. Same drive. Only difference is one doesn’t give a fuck and does what he wants. The other wanted true peace and not control. So OG Doom makes sense. That being said they need to change the fantastic casting if rdj is og doom. Because this casting doesn’t fit the original fantastic variants. Bring John back. Then we solid.

[@richardhutnik]

Tony is a Doom variant.

[@mr.m2695]

@ this is true. They’ve already stated that. This is also fantastic 4 variants. The real one was John. He’s dead now lol

[@mr.m2695]

@@richardhutnik just doesn’t make sense to do that. Unless they saying he’s a variant of iron man.

[@tjislost]

@@mr.m2695it’s the only thing that makes sense 😂 what other explanation could there be to them looking exactly alike….. yea Tony being a variant, that’s it