She reminds me of the African proverb: when a child doesn’t feel the warmth from the village, that child will burn the village. Latoya did just that.
@thedetail. Жыл бұрын
Great saying!
@nkipmo1154 Жыл бұрын
This is it!
@tererichardson5418 Жыл бұрын
@@thedetail. 😊
@LohaniaDouglas Жыл бұрын
YES LORD, SHE DID THAT LOL !!!!!
@nakeishamammeri5094 Жыл бұрын
Wow I never heard that one before but that is so spot on and applicable to her
@ToLovelyJesus Жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart that she was held back a grade and punished for being shy. Did no one think that her “shyness” might’ve been the result of abuse? That teacher sounded dumb.
@wuzhis2184 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 70's and 80's domestic violence wasn't necessarily against the law. My step dad shot my Mom, followed and stalked her for years. LE always said, we don't get involved in domestic problems. 100's of times this happened. Back in the 70's you didn't interfere with what a man did in his home.
@ToLovelyJesus Жыл бұрын
@@wuzhis2184 I understand. It still sucks though. Thank you for explaining, and I’m very sorry your mom went through that.
@StacyLightnerStudios Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.. Smh
@aundreshabazz9624 Жыл бұрын
@@wuzhis2184 I hope they arrested that bag ofgarbage!
@GenevieveWaller-pk3xg Жыл бұрын
The teacher was bias to her. Shyness should not affect promotion. I love Latoya ,to me Latoya is the most real.
@grayb7420 Жыл бұрын
Let’s look at the real fault here. The father was an abusive, chauvinistic bully. He messed up all of his kids.
@Whippy99 Жыл бұрын
The ugliness inside him is all over his horrible face. 😡
@ilovejesuschrist992 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It starts at home.
@LMCSM Жыл бұрын
All? Some, yes but not all of them have had these huge issues and problems
@merricat302511 ай бұрын
Yes. Joe Jackson was evil. I watched documentary on family music group Cowsills ( sang song Raon , Park and other things). Father was their manager. He and Joe Jackson would be buddies. Abused and controlled his children ... messed up kids.
@anudai482110 ай бұрын
and yet they are all stars and millionaires i got my axx beat for free...yall crack me up
@annmariemccooey6731 Жыл бұрын
You cannot please a narcissistic parent. Joseph didn't want her in the musical group until he realized she was interested in law. He didn't want her to be happy and independent because it's easier to control someone if their miserable. Narcissistic abuse is deadly.
@0Lu.Lu0 Жыл бұрын
Joseph is a fascinating study of how so much of what his generation of Black Parents and their approaches to child development were informed and formed by being in such close proximity to Black Peoples' dehumanization collectively.
@lawrencepeterson1114 Жыл бұрын
@@0Lu.Lu0 Ji h. Bi ñiiiiii?m n
@NBA.Ka5hMeRe Жыл бұрын
It's really sad, being raised by a narcissistic or toxic parent can easily cause you to end up married to one when u get older. 😩 So sad.
@angiegutierrez2395 Жыл бұрын
Ese viejo era un psicópata.
@Kim-Berly200 Жыл бұрын
@@NBA.Ka5hMeRe Facts! I married my narcissistic mother’s clone! It’s difficult to find yourself.
@itsthegumptionforme6233 Жыл бұрын
That's one of the biggest mistakes Joe J. made, was not letting her venture into law. Having a lawyer in a showbiz family would have done them wonders, they would not have been taken advantage by those vulture lawyers in Hollywood. Not sure he thought it through.
@ntuan9360 Жыл бұрын
He thought he was smarter than everyone
@missj3434 Жыл бұрын
Excellent point 💯💯
@candacepowers5264 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Let your child/children follow their dreams. Joe was a greeedy, cruel, narcissistic man. Prayers to EVERYONE. God bless from Northern California!
@proudcynophile1901 Жыл бұрын
Not sure Joe Jackson was very smart at all!
@daydreamer9888 Жыл бұрын
Agree! She would've been a great lawyer & probably would've proved herself very useful.
@angelaharrison431410 ай бұрын
The fact that she tried SO hard to escape a controlling father only to run into the arms of a controlling husband.
@Misslynndance9 ай бұрын
99% of the time its the case
@rogerchristensen27419 ай бұрын
😢😢
@Heyu7her39 ай бұрын
@@Misslynndance yep, running from instead of confronting your traumas
@carolfisher29078 ай бұрын
SUCH A TRAGIC STORY 😥 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😮😢
@cherylmaden59898 ай бұрын
Super sad? But is what happens most of the time
@111angelvoice Жыл бұрын
She simply repeated her mother's journey of being controlled by a narcissistic abuser. Happens all the time. I'm so glad that she finally broke free. I hope she is much healthier now.
@arianhopkins5979 Жыл бұрын
You all are assuming information that you don't really know is true.
@ilovejesuschrist992 Жыл бұрын
@@arianhopkins5979you're a narcissist
@jayneharvey7435 ай бұрын
She was not controlled. Hence why Katherine insisted Michael pay for his siblings as his talent and stardom hurt their careers
@AHMAD-23245 ай бұрын
@@arianhopkins5979MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY, SMGDH
@sw7833 Жыл бұрын
She was absolutely beautiful before she started messing with plastic surgery!
@ThatsJustPeachy1871 Жыл бұрын
They all looked so much better before the surgeries
@peggypeggy4137 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that she had a very pretty face naturally. She had a really cute nose which she had made too small.
@Hope44903 Жыл бұрын
They wasn't pleased with being black...The entire family had plastic surgery....Shame really..
@BEBEBULGER187 Жыл бұрын
@@ThatsJustPeachy1871 NOT TRUE SOME OF THEM NEEDED THE NOSE JOBS BUT THEY SHOULDVE STOPPED EARLIER ON
@emilienuman Жыл бұрын
Yesss so gorgeous…
@dmgross539 Жыл бұрын
The look of sadness in LaToya’s eyes speaks volumes. So sad😢
@A_Muzik Жыл бұрын
If a student has proven to be academically proficient, why the hell would you hold them back a grade simply because they don’t speak up?
@Patrick3183 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that made no sense to me. A straight A student held back because of shyness..?
@Shayzar1 Жыл бұрын
@@Patrick3183 it was a different time
@brettsfav4 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we live in a world full of extroverts and anyone who happens to be shy or quiet is treated as though something is wrong with them.
@MsRedd_86 Жыл бұрын
Good question. In elementary school I got held back a grade cuz I missed the last day of school! And this wuz in the 90’s.
@jabjab4434 Жыл бұрын
@@MsRedd_86 wtf is that ?
@Eazy-ERyder Жыл бұрын
She was so HORRIBLY mistreated. The father was bad enough, but her "husband" was much much worse. Jack Gordan was an absolute MONSTER.
@marvelousmel7879 Жыл бұрын
DeBarge patriarch, Robert DeBarge was 50 times worser than Joe Jackson.
@beverlyledbetter490611 ай бұрын
Her father was no doubt screwing her. She went from one pimp to another!😒
@007JNR11 ай бұрын
@@marvelousmel7879she is talking about her ex husband not her dad.
@marvelousmel787911 ай бұрын
@@007JNR I know. I was just saying Robert DeBarge Sr was alot worser than Joe Jackson.
@007JNR11 ай бұрын
@@marvelousmel7879 lol "worser". I get what you are saying though 👍🏾
@blah5528 Жыл бұрын
Her abusive father and enabling mother really messed up the beginning of her life and set the tone for the rest. She didn’t even want to be famous, she felt as tho she failed at something she never even wanted. Latoya was shuffling between abusers and I don’t think we truly know how she feels about anything, I think she wants acceptance from her family it doesn’t mean everything she said was false. This woman was right to break ties with them, I wish her the best.
@sabrinafrederick4141 Жыл бұрын
All the kids were good kids. It is so sad how Joseph treated them. Heartbreaking!
@pinky-ud1rt9 ай бұрын
Excatly hun poor micheal was just damadged well all his siblings were
@teesee69628 ай бұрын
maybe they were good kids because their father disciplined them.
@LolaLaRue-sq6jm8 ай бұрын
That's what abusers ALWAYS says! "I'm doing this for your own good" while they give in to their own sadism.@@teesee6962
@elenapalma55297 ай бұрын
Un tipo asqueroso metido en una secta que maltratan y minimizan a los hijos , y delante delas personas se dan golpes de pecho
@Ndlela-Yami11 ай бұрын
Latoya's betrayal of Michael is still so shocking and painful
@jiesmith239211 ай бұрын
If she didn’t betray Michael she or Michael would have been killed since Jack was apart of the mafia
@cherylmaden59898 ай бұрын
Yup one could almost say she did it because she loved him sooo much she felt it could be safer for him
@RocStarr9134 ай бұрын
She was abused by her Svengali who basically kept her a virtual prisoner.
@dianira57 Жыл бұрын
being victim of abuse is something that change you deeply from inside. hail to all abuse survivors 💜💜💜
@arianhopkins5979 Жыл бұрын
If there was abusive treatment. I don't believe everything I hear. Latoya had issues too.
@conniebell7987 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m still here, he’s gone. Thankfully.
@All.Natural.7 ай бұрын
They all were. So sad.
@SRtruth Жыл бұрын
This is a horror story but she came out on top. You can tell she never had the intention to harm anyone. I feel so bad for all the jackson children. Their lives are full of lessons that many others can relate to and that everyone can learn from.
@Medietos Жыл бұрын
Yes, although many have irt much worse: The loving warm mother, all the physical touch and play AND creative music they experienced together! They got a lot of stress our of their bodies that way, which f ex I never did. They nourished each other, human closeness and companionship mean so much, known only when one lacks it in isolation and becomes human-deprived. Hoping they are all OK.
@SRtruth Жыл бұрын
@@Medietos I agree, you're totally right. Sounds like you are very insightful! I pray for your continued healing and that you may receive universal love in full abundance 💜❤🤍
@KENITH_BARBIE11 ай бұрын
She sure did come out on top. She owns her own record label and multiple companies as a CEO. She still rich and talented af ❤
@SRtruth11 ай бұрын
@@KENITH_BARBIE that's awesome, good for her!!
@dondamon46695 ай бұрын
What?! What lessons? All just attention seekers trying to be famous
@aGwEENapple Жыл бұрын
I really really like how this is narrated, the music, the pictures, the narrator's sympathetic tone throughout the video. I haven't finished watching but I'm very engaged! ✨️
@thedetail. Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Glad you are enjoying it.
@humble1259 Жыл бұрын
I agree so far the narration is unbiased, tell all, and informative.
@RocStarr91311 ай бұрын
The narrator knows how to toe that very difficult line between coming off objective and yet entertaining and engaging and empathetic.
@dondamon46695 ай бұрын
I doubt he's going to ask you to marry him just because you like the video!!😊
@ladydee56 Жыл бұрын
She was absolutely beautiful in her younger years. I just feel really sad whenever I watch any of them. I feel like they were robbed of their childhood, hope they can all heal from the abuse they endured.
@jackjules7552 Жыл бұрын
Childhood is boring. The Jacksons got to live the good life and excitement of show business early in life rather than endure the boredom of childhood. They weren't robbed of anything.
@ThundermansThunder Жыл бұрын
@@jackjules7552 If you truly feel that way, that you gained nothing of value from your childhood, then you are taking life for granted, not appreciating what you have, as a narcissist. A boring childhood is a very much nicer way of experiencing childhood than the countless ways that it could have been be painful! There are so many people would love to have the luxury of experiencing a boring childhood, and be thankful for it!
@jackjules7552 Жыл бұрын
@@ThundermansThunder You are right. I gained nothing from my childhood but it was my fault. I should have been more aware that I could have been more aggressive in taking charge of my life rather than following what I was taught.
@wildkims2008 Жыл бұрын
she was very beautiful, especially with her original nose
@ThundermansThunder Жыл бұрын
@@jackjules7552 I understand, I think everyone, without exception, can look back to our past and see areas where we failed to take full advantage of our opportunities, wishing things were different, or any of a million other crazy thoughts that rob us of a fulfilling life, and keeps us from enjoying the ordinary, mundane things, that really aren't so ordinary for a large portion of the world. But you obviously realize it, at this point in your life, which is wonderful! We cannot change the past, and we are not guaranteed tomorrow, but we can choose how we will deal with today. I sincerely hope that your present is much better, and enjoyable, in every way, for you, than your past.
@southlondonlass1 Жыл бұрын
She was trapped in a pattern of abuse that began with her father. Like her mother she remained with an abusive husband for too long. 😢
@SkittleBurstsxoxo11 ай бұрын
It's hard to leave.
@SJ-ni6iy3 ай бұрын
She still had enough sense to dodge a romantic relationship with Mike Tyson. That would be nothing short of a disaster
@user35678_tt2 ай бұрын
Katherine always been a weak gullible mother she's chose Joseph and let him abuse her kids for fame and money like but it's worse wth Joseph. I get that Katherine suffered alot but honestly it infuriates me that she let an abusive husband and the media tearing her family apart .
@krischambers9021 Жыл бұрын
As soon as my future husband said I’ll be your guardian, not hubby, I’d have never married him. Psychologically, that says a lot.
@ilovejesuschrist992 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's transactional. No love involved.
@Patrick3183 Жыл бұрын
The abuse they suffered at the hands of their father left many of the Jackson kids with deep psychological scars and other complexes.
@SimplyBeingTT Жыл бұрын
Stop with the lies. Damn!
@Patrick3183 Жыл бұрын
@@SimplyBeingTT you’re claiming Joseph did not abuse his kids? Or that being abused has no effects? Wtf??
@djtennessee9014 Жыл бұрын
Without his vision, they would have never been anything but another struggling black family
@MsJonessss Жыл бұрын
@@djtennessee9014 unfortunately this is true. Music was the only way out for poor black families at that time.
@adjuafrican2664 Жыл бұрын
@@MsJonessss and sports
@jessicah4462 Жыл бұрын
Poor LaToya was always disrespected. By her family, the media, the music industry, the late night show hosts, the public. She always seemed very sweet and very well meaning and just seemed like she wanted to be loved for her. I grew up thru the 70’s and 80’s, so I watched this all in real time. Really, as far as her musical career went, Michael was such a phenom there was no way anyone was breaking off even a sliver of that for themselves. I haven’t seen anything like it since him. He’s a once in a lifetime talent. Considering the times, and absolutely zero disrespect to LaToya, if she wasn’t a Jackson we wouldn’t be discussing her today. It was the decade of 1 hit wonders and she didn’t really even have that. The Jacksons kept the gossip mags in business back then. There was a feeding frenzy for the family back then. Even beyond Princess Di and Prince Charles. Even beyond anything the Kardashians ever dreamed of achieving! The Jacksons WERE the 1st Family, the Royal Family, all of them and more. If you weren’t there you can’t even conceive of it. Gordon just always looked like the Devil to me. LaToya was the perfect victim for a snake like him after all the abuse she took from everyone around her leading up to meeting him.
@deepconnection1169 Жыл бұрын
She is a very intelligent, and eloquent woman. Sadly, she never reached the celebrity success as her brother Michael, and sister Janet. Childhood trauma scars people FOR LIFE. If you are abused in any way as a child, you spend the rest of your life trying to fix it. It changes a person forever. They were definitely robbed of a 'normal' childhood. And this along with abuse, makes it very difficult to form healthy attachments. And to ever even know who you really are. Just sad. But fame and fortune comes with a huge price tag. You give up so much to be a celebrity. Your privacy, peace of mind, and even your dignity, among many other things.I would;d never, ever want to be famous. I cherish my anonymity and privacy.
@pauljordan445211 ай бұрын
It's strange. People know my name as I'm an author, yet they don't know me.
@lilsept77 Жыл бұрын
One of La Toya's teachers held her back because she rarely spoke in class looking over the issue that she's a straight-A student, which was so dumb. Before her father was to just lecture La Toya that she should talk more in class and stood up for her telling her teacher how stupid it was to hold her back, he whops her behind.
@whitsundaydreaming Жыл бұрын
I grew up under a popular older brother who was talented and in love with the spotlight. The folks gave him the top billing in their lives, leaving me feeling very second class. I know the struggle trying to find your own voice and to earn respect.
@BluEx22329 Жыл бұрын
And he was younger
@Nyc99 Жыл бұрын
Mine was younger, turn around and in 40ies say oh they loved you more, I laughed little than realized he is slow , still jealous over nothing and imagine rage not happiness when they see me or when I call ...it's just funny now
@MostHighJem Жыл бұрын
Church
@brighteyes704 Жыл бұрын
@Greg McKinney truth is you don’t need to earn their respect, you are here, you are valid, and you have a purpose.
@kingtech7917 Жыл бұрын
I kinda understand my mother's daughter was a better student than I was in school barely tried and pulled straight A's and B's me on the other hand damn near ever other letter constantly getting outshined by her made me feel lesser than definitely when she went to college
@joshuampinganjira97 Жыл бұрын
As a journalist who is very passionate about music I really enjoyed this and I learned so much about her.
@thedetail. Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JetPackDino Жыл бұрын
That's the absolute hallmark of an abusive parent: one who cannot give up control and let the child go. Poor LaToya, I hope she's living her best life now.
@audreycollins1268 Жыл бұрын
She always seemed gentle...and genuine
@sanchez73day36 Жыл бұрын
Latoya was a beautiful child and young woman . Don't know why she felt the need to change herself with plastic surgery.
@100lamadrina8 Жыл бұрын
I did hear that Joe J would always make fun of their noses. Like tattoos plastic surgery is addicting
@korancebland Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more.
@Dpurple28 Жыл бұрын
Low self esteem her father would abuse them in every way possible 💔 !!! Joe was a horrible man and his kids paid the price. I hope Latoya is finally happy 😊 ❣️
@sharonswift8668 Жыл бұрын
He had the SAME nose.
@sanchez73day36 Жыл бұрын
@@sharonswift8668 nothing was wrong with her original nose 👃
@MareeksMareeks Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting all the segments together!
@loveyu2778 Жыл бұрын
30 years old and you cant move out of the house..that says alot..
@egwthe1 Жыл бұрын
As a JW you stay home until you are married.
@privatename4786 Жыл бұрын
@@egwthe1nly Katherine and Rebbie were jw. Also what you say is incorrect.
@RocStarr9134 ай бұрын
@@privatename4786La Toya was also one. Rebbie got married early on, so she didn’t have to stay.
@samanthaamin1378 Жыл бұрын
not only her father, but that teacher also contributed to her mental state on her early childhood.
@spectraamunari9059 Жыл бұрын
She went from one demon to another. Sadly, Joe messed with Rebe and LaToya in ways a father never should. He broke Catherine as well. So sad.
@nettricegaskins1871 Жыл бұрын
Abusers like Gordon drive wedges between their spouses and their families in order to gain ultimate control of them. I wish her parents had let her leave, become a lawyer or whatever she wanted to do that was NOT in entertainment. She didn't know how to exist as an independent woman and jumped from one abuser to another.
@Freerangewords Жыл бұрын
Even with all the surgeries, toya, Michael and Janet look very much a like
@MissHellybaybee Жыл бұрын
She's not a liar... I've seen her struggle a few times to deny what she knows to be true. Poor LaToya, I think she's had it hard. No surprose she would move on with an abuser tbh
@angeladavis2380 Жыл бұрын
I see why Prince was in love with La Toya, He went out and found other Women who reminded him of her (the one who got away)…. she had a resemblance to Vanity & Apollonia .
@RocStarr9134 ай бұрын
It helped that they were both Geminis.
@loveisthekey7 Жыл бұрын
This channel has outstanding narrators
@thedetail. Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ReginaDillard Жыл бұрын
Well, Janet said in all in her hit song, "CONTROL". Although she was the baby, she still felt the strong grip of her father. I'm glad this story was told and I always wondered why LaToya was left out of the 2300 Jackson Street video. She certainly was missed.
@RocStarr91311 ай бұрын
Because she had already estranged herself from the entire family through Jack Gordon’s influence over her.
@Divine_Beauty-uh9xi Жыл бұрын
Her story is heartbreaking. It seems so many musical duds would have proven that wasn’t her strength and maybe acting would have been better. She was exceptionally beautiful and could modeled. She did so many random things and eventually excelled at very little. Being a Jackson is her saving grace.
@tleemf6923 Жыл бұрын
Being a jackson was one of her greatest pains
@JC-gq2lo Жыл бұрын
True
@jay4you853 Жыл бұрын
@@tleemf6923 Two things can be true at the same time 👌🏾
@slimdude2011 Жыл бұрын
@tleemf6923 If LaToya wasn't a sibling in the Jackson Family and riding on the coat tails of Michael and Janet, she wouldn't had been in the public eye at all, and she knows it. The only way for her to be in the spotlight is to be involved in controversial events for the attention.
@acidspit14 Жыл бұрын
exceptionaly beautiful , Really ??
@R.A.A. Жыл бұрын
Your perspective is so concise and impeccable, even your reserved tone is crystal clear so the viewers make their own mind... for hours I’ve been watching your shorter videos because your narration. Thanks for this enjoyable watching experience. Subscribed, Liked & Notification on.
@thedetail. Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you, I appreciate that!
@dizzy627711 ай бұрын
Both Michael and La Toya were naturally attractive people. It's sad that they were not allowed to feel that way and felt the need to change themselves.
@SinaLaJuanaLewis9 ай бұрын
Proof that upbringing can make or break a person's future 😢
@stickshiftdriver1832 Жыл бұрын
Yes. She could had been the Jackson's family lawyer. Eventhough Joe had gotten his sons to stardom, he was shortsighted when it became to talents and desires his daughters had outside of music. She showed signs of being academically bright at the age of 6. Instead of slapping Latoya Joe should had verbally slapped the teacher for wanting to hold back a grade a straight A student
@rayofsunshan8 ай бұрын
You said it perfectly
@dondamon46695 ай бұрын
As if she could of been a lawyer 😂 haven't you heard her speak?
@stickshiftdriver18325 ай бұрын
@@dondamon4669 yes but what does that have to do with anything. She had a passion to seek out law and could had been the family's attorney. Joe had screwed that up for his selfishness.
@livesquad2810 Жыл бұрын
I didn't realise she went through all that! She was controlled by men who didn't actually care about her for most of her life. That's really sad. Remember, women all over the world are going through similar or even worse things and that's why female empowerment is important! I find it interesting that her oldest brothers were even trying to control her, I suppose they were just doing what they had been taught/expected to do. Thank you for this amazing video
@NBAfan679 Жыл бұрын
Agreed but female empowerment has only caused a society with less fathers and more degenerates. Men go through many various fcked up things. But we don’t speak about it. I’ve worked corrections 98.7 percent of our inmates were born from single mothers. I’m now a cop and see what female empowerment has caused. Both genders just need to work together. Any empowerment of any gender or race causes division.
@livesquad2810 Жыл бұрын
@@NBAfan679 sure but why blame the women. Where are the fathers? Why are men getting people pregnant when they don't want kids. You can't put all the blame on women.
@NBAfan679 Жыл бұрын
@@livesquad2810 women choose who they sleep with. Why do you think promiscuity is shamed. Sleep with decent people. Most guys don’t have sex like that. Modern studies show 15% of men sleep with 80-90% percent of women regularly. And between 40%-50% of men pass there genes each generation where as 85-90% of women do. I will state again men and women should stop having sex so causally. Find a person who’s decent! Get married then have a baby
@MarcoDL615 Жыл бұрын
What brought me tears was one of her interviews when she asked how did his talk with MJ, when she was very sorry to him she said that Michael responded “La Toya you don't have to say anything, I know you and I love you”. That hit me! I mean La Toya was part of the heartache of Michael even ruining his brother's image! Michael forgave her. His dad who beat and bullied him, and MJ forgave him! That's the difference between La Toya & MJ! Michael forgave him. La Toya became rebellious that's why she went even more worst! But I'm happy that they are all reunited!
@livesquad2810 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoDL615 for me personally I don't believe that forgiveness is always needed in order to heal. Maybe for some people it is needed but for others it's impossible. In that type of situation I think distance is necessary
@shellecapos8574 Жыл бұрын
They were all so good looking, including Latoya, before the surgeries.
@JB-bl6qo Жыл бұрын
Literally
@valenciaarnold6065 Жыл бұрын
I agree %100
@daydreamer9888 Жыл бұрын
Yes! So good looking. The didn't need any surgery :(
@shellecapos8574 Жыл бұрын
@@daydreamer9888 It’s an issue with self image. They’ve got all these haters, managers, studio exec’s telling them they need to look white. They’ve been told white is beautiful, and they believed it. They were more beautiful, talented then any of the folks giving them advice. They were all bad ass from the jump.
@BlackNella Жыл бұрын
The baby hair was immaculate! Latoya was always my favorite.
@baylorsailor Жыл бұрын
She was scholarly as a young girl. I bet if she was allowed to follow her natural path she would've been much happier and successful. Obviously the entertainment industry wasn't a good fit for her personality and interests.
@SlaughdaradioLLC Жыл бұрын
I’m glad yall went in Great depth on Latoya… I was always curious on that Jackson ❤
@thedetail. Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@shantellfox4472 Жыл бұрын
This is so sad. I'm sorry that she went through all of this
@lisamccray9079 Жыл бұрын
I feel 😢bad for Latoya
@beatricehart5614 Жыл бұрын
When you don't deal with the trauma you just keep repeating the cycle.
@melisentiapheiffer3034 Жыл бұрын
They are a beautiful family. Pity about all the abuse they experienced by the father.
@optimumreality9745 Жыл бұрын
These are the best docs I have ever seen! Amazing work. We are so enjoying. Thank you so much!
@vashtikelly6837 Жыл бұрын
wow toya was so damn striking between marks 10:59-11:03 she was a knockout!!!!!.....she never needed surgery!!!!
@leeleemee Жыл бұрын
“……she never needed surgery!!!!”. You are correct 🎯
@vashtikelly6837 Жыл бұрын
@@leeleemee YEAH AND NIETHER DID MIKE AFTER THE THRILLER LOOK......BUT TOYA SHOULD HAVE STAYED THE SAME......
@ocstrangest2615 Жыл бұрын
that's what happens when you have more money than things you can think of doing, you don't love yourself unconditionally, and when your super jealous of your brother and want to look like him.
@sgtfluffy718 Жыл бұрын
Well I'm sure that mj's surgery had a lot to do with it. He was the most famous. So she and Janet had a lot of surgeries that would cause them to look more like him
@arianhopkins5979 Жыл бұрын
Black people including Michael Jackson are victims of self hatred involving their looks because of living in a white features preferred America.
@megannichole120 Жыл бұрын
Growing up Latoya didn’t want to be a singer. Joseph encouraged her to do so. She actually had a fairly successful music career all things considered. Of all the admirers she had and she ended up with Jack Gordon. Latoya seems sensitive like Michael. Abuse affected her greatly
@slimdude2011 Жыл бұрын
No, Latoya never had a successful music career as a solo artist. She performed periodically with her brothers, but not as a permanent member.
@arianhopkins5979 Жыл бұрын
Joe did not want Latoya to be a singer and she was angry about it.
@annnee681811 ай бұрын
"Encouraged" isn't the word I'd use.
@annnee681811 ай бұрын
@@arianhopkins5979why did he manage her then? Makes no sense what you say
@annnee681811 ай бұрын
@slimdude2011 define success. When you get money for several albums that's success. Nowhere near MJ levels of course but if you're using that as a yardstick you lack perspective
@JRK624 Жыл бұрын
Joe was evil & Katherine too weak to protect herself & her babies, sad! Prayers for love, peace & happiness for all of them.
@bluesugar58 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a movie based on LaToya's life. She has overcome so much adversity.
@tiffanycurtis4794 Жыл бұрын
Your about the only one🤣🤣
@ilovejesuschrist992 Жыл бұрын
@tiffanycurtis4794 wrong.
@RocStarr91311 ай бұрын
She’s doesn’t have enough of a following for that. If such a project was to ever happen, it would most likely be produced by a black-targeted cable channel, most likely TV One.
@MsDisneylandlover9 ай бұрын
Yes that would on pt
@MonicaGriego22Ай бұрын
It's not about a following. It's just something the people want. It's not all about Michael Jackson. Latoya is important too.
@rhondacooper7957 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, like most of us LaToya Jackson has experienced narcissistic abuse at the hands of her husband Jack Gordon she was definitely trama bond by her abusive narcissistic husband. LaToya went through a lot of abuse from childhood to adulthood. Thank God she made it out of that toxic hell of a marriage, and living her best life.👌🏽
@aleesharenea1477 Жыл бұрын
Question is a narcissistic husband controlling ?
@rhondacooper7957 Жыл бұрын
@@aleesharenea1477 I had a narcissist boyfriend back in the day, but yes a narcissist husband is very much controlling.
@Medietos Жыл бұрын
@@aleesharenea1477 Yes, control is one of the main traits
@ilovejesuschrist992 Жыл бұрын
@@aleesharenea1477all narcissists are controlling
@aleesharenea1334 Жыл бұрын
@@ilovejesuschrist992 I know as I know people that are that way.
@pedroferreira4695 Жыл бұрын
I can see how much MJ was inspired by La Toya , he loovked, talked like her
@koobie83 Жыл бұрын
It's so sad that most of them had self esteem issues that they would alter their appearances so dramatically. Well done Joe.
@meccahdawn Жыл бұрын
Latoya was gorgeous. I wish she hadn't felt the need to alter her appearance. Janet and Michael too.
@slimdude2011 Жыл бұрын
Janet Jackson didn't have any plastic surgery because, she still has her natural beauty. Janet is only 56 years old. Whoever has said or has written that she had plastic surgery, that's a bold-faced lie and besides, I don't think she will go through those extreme measures to have cosmetic surgery to maintain her looks because, she's not that vain! Her looks may have changed slightly over the years, and that's because she's getting older, like all people do. It's called nature. No one expect Janet Jackson to look like she did when she was in her 20s or 30s. For a 56-year-old woman, Janet Jackson looks great, and she DIDN'T have any plastic surgery. In general, plastic surgery doesn't benefit anybody because, the person is still going to age, whether if they have plastic surgery or not. A person can have all the plastic surgeries in the world, and they're still going to get old and unfortunately pass away. Nobody can't stop nature from taking its course, no matter what you do.
@100lamadrina8 Жыл бұрын
@@slimdude2011 Janet had plastic surgery. Look at photos as a child and now. The nose is completely different.
@Aquaboogie68 Жыл бұрын
@@100lamadrina8Agreed! Her nostrils weren't triangular!
@equalityforall4175 Жыл бұрын
Michael and Latoya were beautiful the way they were. No need for plastic surgery.
@lisamccray9079 Жыл бұрын
They were nice looking to bad they got plastic surgery which they did not need
@SOupMYSELF Жыл бұрын
Brilliant documentary! Thank you for putting this together 👏🏿
@thedetail. Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Glad you enjoyed it! ✨
@laraoneal7284 Жыл бұрын
The blacksheep is the Scapegoat in the family and the one who tells the truth.
@sharonswift8668 Жыл бұрын
Middle child myself. So so true.
@tiggy500 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent documentary. Extremely well done and definitely worth watching.
@nodiggity8497 Жыл бұрын
I adore La Toya. Now that you mention it, she does look like Cathrine, beautiful lady. I also hear she is Michael's kids favorite auntie.
@handsome-brute2666 Жыл бұрын
You mean Katherine...she was unusually close to him..like a groupie..i couldn't be that close to my 2-sisters!🤔..he even put her in the Paul McCartney video duet as a paramour he chased!😳
@handsome-brute2666 Жыл бұрын
My God at 16:00..i thought that close up was Michael😳
@nodiggity8497 Жыл бұрын
@@handsome-brute2666 Hahaha they are twins. Or La Toya went into to the same plastic surgeon and was like, I want what my brother had. She dresses just like him too. Sometimes Janet looks like Michael too. The whole lot of them when to the same doctor I'm convinced.
@nodiggity8497 Жыл бұрын
@@handsome-brute2666 I love that Michael cast her is Say Say Say as his love interest, really cute.
@megannichole120 Жыл бұрын
She is very close to them and has been there through tough moments. In family photos she’s rarely far from them. I remember Paris saying years ago Latoya heard her play guitar and sing and she clapped and encouraged her. Paris said Latoya believed in her and look at Paris now.
@alvinjohnson2402 Жыл бұрын
She would have done better as an actress than a singer.
@priscamolotsi Жыл бұрын
Poor poor LaToya. Until I watched this documentary, I thoroughly disliked her and thought she was just a jealous sibling causing trouble. Now I see she was controlled by this monster of a husband. If she hadn’t hooked up with him, she would have made it.
@egwthe1 Жыл бұрын
Controlled by her father sexually and physically. Than her husband the same.
@princessikede6894 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this documentary! Learned so much new information that I did not know before. Honestly I used to hate Latoya because I could not understand why she would betray her brother Michael like that. But this video has made me realise the abuse she was going through at the time and it’s so heartbreaking honestly. Thank you again Thedetail for your hard work! 😁❤️
@thedetail. Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really enjoyed creating this
@ocstrangest2615 Жыл бұрын
Really?? so because she says she was dealing with abuse, that justifies betraying her brother? Nah, I completely disagree. That's not what a sister who loves her brother does, under any circumstances. That's a copout.
@princessikede6894 Жыл бұрын
@@ocstrangest2615 I’m not saying what she did was right but if you haven’t been through abuse then I don’t expect you to understand. Psychological abuse is even worse than physical abuse because it will fuck your mind up to the point that you can’t even think rationally anymore. She was obviously very fearful of her husband at the time especially when he was making threats to kill her entire family. We don’t have to understand it but at least be able to empathise with the woman 🤦🏾♀️
@tamikalockley3686 Жыл бұрын
@@thedetail.Thank you for this!😀
@lvlinda6 Жыл бұрын
My heart has always been 💔shattered💔 for this so amazingly talented family. I always loved LaToya as I felt she had so much talent, but was manipulated by those around her. She was never allowed to shine. She had a very creative spirit, but was always kept in a stifling box. 🤟🏼💖🎶
@terrenceperkins5282 Жыл бұрын
Yea rite what talent. The talent mj 1. 2 Janet. Every 1 pick a # u reached
@Shamonwhitehurst252 Жыл бұрын
@@terrenceperkins5282 I love La Toya way more than Janet.
@terrenceperkins5282 Жыл бұрын
@@Shamonwhitehurst252 I don't c how Latoya is a lie no talent broke do bootleg show she think her career is on Janet level .
@Mr.EmeraldTheGreen Жыл бұрын
I’m so very glad that LaToya was able to free herself from her horrible ex husband and especially mend fences with Michael before his untimely passing. Redemption is so very important! 💗💗💗
@terrenceperkins5282 Жыл бұрын
Oh please anybody can see from day 1 he wasn't no gd Latoya was always jealous she couldn't attention with her talent she try another way stop bs . Latoya been divorce over 20 years why she didn't are a hit record not no overseas or a good movie
@amanituelle Жыл бұрын
@@terrenceperkins5282oh shut up you’re all over the comments spreading nothing but nonsense and negativity.
@terrenceperkins5282 Жыл бұрын
@@amanituelle it's a fact .. she a lie can't sing or dance if her name wasn't Jackson u would never her from her
@jomama5186 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would have left their noses alone! They were beautiful just the way they were! They had pretty noses, and chiseled them away to nothing. And shame on the plastic surgeons who did that to them too !
@LMCSM Жыл бұрын
Didn't she betray Michael by accussing him of the most heinous crime though? If that's true, I don't feel any pity for her. No matter what your childhood or problems are, throwing your own brother under the bus knowing what it would do to him is unforgivable
@Ndlela-Yami11 ай бұрын
She did. Betrayed her once closest sibling for money. After some years she recanted the claims but the damage was done. I find it unforgivable still
@Pinkglambeauty9 ай бұрын
What she did to Michael was something that hurt his career and his soul the most, because after she made that interview saying that Michael behaved inappropriately with kids in front of her, Everyone believed her and he was accused of being a bad guy permanently, other than opening the door to future scammers. Honestly, there was no excuse for that.
@RocStarr9134 ай бұрын
She was abused by a Svengali who basically held her prisoner.
@wolfierobblack Жыл бұрын
This is proof that people can change from good to forced Darkness to good again. I wish LaToya ❤well& continued happiness, and positivity that she found. Also peace with herself and the family again. 🙏Amazingly done documentary wow. 😮👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@itsnoahonfire Жыл бұрын
LaToya had the potential to go the model/actress route and I believe she would have been much more successful. She is not musically inclined and that is fine. I believe Joe lead her astray.
@arianhopkins5979 Жыл бұрын
Please don't believe the hype.
@itsnoahonfire Жыл бұрын
@@arianhopkins5979 stop being a hater
@Yella_Gworl Жыл бұрын
Omg! Thank you so much for this... I feel like I understand her, so much better now. I was just a kid when all of this happened, but I remember so much of it, and how she was painted out to be. Being a victim changes a person. Most often, it causes a person to forget who they are themselves, and doing things that they could never had imagined they were capable of. I wish them all many blessings, and undisturbed Peace!❤️❤️❤️
@skillsfromneworleans10 ай бұрын
...."Hold her back a grade because she didn't speak up".....horrible
@GreenBananaz Жыл бұрын
Katherine looks incredible for 92 years old I have to say
@arianhopkins5979 Жыл бұрын
She wasn't that abused by her husband. They stayed together and raised their children.
@ilovejesuschrist992 Жыл бұрын
@@arianhopkins5979you're more than likely abusive yourself
@dragonflytempb8395 Жыл бұрын
I’d think having an attorney in the family would be beneficial
@michaeljoseph3475 Жыл бұрын
So beautiful , so troubled, so misunderstood...
@terrenceperkins5282 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful is ..miss understood how ?
@daydreamer9888 Жыл бұрын
@@terrenceperkins5282 misunderstood because people thought she was a crazy liar when actually she was telling the truth and suffered severe abuse
@leannesmith5818 Жыл бұрын
You could say that about michael as well
@pancakeyface10 ай бұрын
@@daydreamer9888she lied about mj
@maverickbull19099 ай бұрын
she looks like an alien ghoul
@shellibess6185 Жыл бұрын
I believe Joseph Sr was SA towards her. To have ahold of her like that and didn't do nothing for her Career, Just wanted her near. Naww, something ain't clean in the wash.
@egwthe1 Жыл бұрын
I bet the mother knew .
@ilovejesuschrist992 Жыл бұрын
@@egwthe1of course she knew and she is a weak woman
@giraffebecky Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating. Very thorough and well done! I'm pretty sure La Toya (and other Jacksons) were sexually abused. It's just something that a woman knows (about other women). I actually feel really sorry for her for the sh!t she's been through. I can see the change in her after she broke free of that nasty husband. Can you imagine only knowing controlling abuse? You can really see the prolonged trauma in her face while she's married to him. And after they split she looks so much healthier in the face (mentally healthier and more radiant). I'm sure that whole family has pretty serious emotional/mental trauma. Not just from the family dynamic, but also the abusive media and tabloids.
@cwood658 Жыл бұрын
The girls were sexualy abused and Katherine Jackson knew it was happening and when. Janet spoke about it in an interview saying " I would hear my mother saying to Joe, please not tonight their tired " but he didn't care. So so sad
@giraffebecky Жыл бұрын
@@cwood658 I think I remember hearing that interview. God it's so sick. Those poor children. I think something happened with Michael too. He was so sexually awkward. Excruciatingly so.
@cwood658 Жыл бұрын
@@giraffebecky I know I absolutely LOVE Michael. I fell in love with him in 1988, even seen him live. There's rumours about Joe chemically chastrating him as a child but I dunno it was Conrad Murray his doctor who said it so.... I really wouldn't be surprised if his farther did sexualy abuse him too. Even through all that he always spoke to his dad.
@unknownpresences5627 Жыл бұрын
I felt the same way about her and seeing her thru the video. I find it's the same whether you are a male or female survivor of S.A. like us and we can see all our fellow brothers and sister's suffering in silence
@giraffebecky Жыл бұрын
@@unknownpresences5627 Well said!!!
@GreenBananaz Жыл бұрын
It’s a crying shame so many if not all of them went on to have surgery. I think the abuse was so deep rooted. The older brothers should have stood up to Joe.
@Half_LifeKitty Жыл бұрын
They were under his thrall, too.
@shawnleider Жыл бұрын
He was there livelihood and father and had complete control over everything. Risking standing up to Joe woulda been risking working a 9-5
@dinahcharles6030 Жыл бұрын
No a beat down
@RocStarr91311 ай бұрын
That’s easier said than done. If you’ve ever see the miniseries The Jacksons: An American Dream, Papa Joe was a very intimidating and aggressive figure. Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs did such a good job capturing what Papa Joe must have been like. I don’t blame the family for being unable to really stand up to him.
@SuperAmos33 Жыл бұрын
Plesae make a video about his tours, who can get enough of watching the world’s greatest entertainer!!! And now to the topic, I’m just happy that they found their way back to each other
@jessebacon817 Жыл бұрын
LaToya had many male admirers back in the day but I think she was too sheltered to pursue any of them.
@tonyamontgomery2733 Жыл бұрын
According to Latoya. Jack was pimping her out. Read her last book.
@dennispearson87110 ай бұрын
Finally a thorough comprehensive and scholarly documentary on this most underated of all the Jackson's......
@liurodriguez5964 Жыл бұрын
To hear all of this is insane. I believe she had such a poor self esteem that she allowed herself to continue in the same drama even outside home! I can't comprehend why she didn't ask for some help from her brother Michael move away and go to University as she always wanted. Sad world that we live in.
@kirbimulmore3462 Жыл бұрын
Good documentary; her book really fills in even more gaps in her story.
@vangelissopamena Жыл бұрын
I love how the narrator of this occasionally turns into a voice actor 🤣🤣🤣
@tleemf6923 Жыл бұрын
It is so interesting that Janet's love of her father and credits to her father are the exact opposite of Latoya😥
@shaneecuevas7990 Жыл бұрын
Janet Damita Jo
@arianhopkins5979 Жыл бұрын
Latoya was seeking attention and unfortunately didn't have the talent that Janet has.
@mssha19806 ай бұрын
Janet is much younger than Latoya
@panchitalatouche4514 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why Joe Jackson had not served a prison sentence for those cruel acts that he bestowed upon his children
@RocStarr91311 ай бұрын
Because you have to press charges first to do that and those acts are very intimate and require such a huge burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. It becomes what one person says versus another.
@panchitalatouche451411 ай бұрын
@@RocStarr913 Life is so unfair
@martalisowskaa8457 Жыл бұрын
Joseph destroyed them all I could never understand why Katherine didn't get divorced if my husband beat our children it would be the end of the marriage plus a restraining order
@jennym7465 Жыл бұрын
Jesus christ.. Sometimes I'm really stunned by how ignorant American people are of history. You have to stop judging situations based upon the current belief system, laws and political climate. The 50/60s were a radically different time especially for us black people and it really stuns me that people don't understand that. Women, even white women, couldn't even get a BANK ACCOUNT separate from their husbands, their husbands could make medical decisions for them, it wasn't even against the law to rape your wife back then and a restraining order? Are you kidding? They didn't even arrest men for domestic violence back then viewing it as a "private issue", they would've laughed her out of the police station if she came in saying her husband was "beating her kids to discipline them" because THAT'S how they believed you disciplined children then. AND Katharine is a black woman ON TOP OF THAT. Segregation didn't even end until 1964!!!! And fyi, since you seem pretty ignorant of history, ending segregation didn't end the racism that was ravaging America, it actually made it worse for several years. It wasn't until well into the 70s it finally calmed down. So do you actually believe a black woman would've called the white police to her home on her black husband? And still be accepted in her neighborhood? Smh, it's pretty sad that you're a full grown adult and who doesn't understand any of this. AND you're a white woman judging the decisions a black women made in a radically different time period that you could never understand.
@martalisowskaa8457 Жыл бұрын
@@jennym7465 you should stop telling others what to think katharine had a big family her sons were making money in jackson5 they would help the mother there was no logical reason why she was with him in her situation being a mother of kids who were already earning millions she could walk away from a psychopath and i'm not from America I come from Poland in my country this guy would be banned from approaching minor children and he would have to pay for all these children to provide them with education, doctors, extracurricular activities, and a psychiatrist because of the traumas he caused
@ThePlaylistBaddie Жыл бұрын
@@martalisowskaa8457Poland sounds good
@MonicaGriego22Ай бұрын
It's all about reputation and the secrets of the Jehovah Witness Kingdom Hall. My mother in law defended my ex husband sexually abusing his brother whenever they were teenagers and she used Jehovah's Witnesses to protect her family from being destroyed by CPS. That's why now my ex husband has our daughters and sexually abused them and is getting help from CPS. No matter how much I have exposed or who I've called for help,no one cares. That's why my youngest daughter is looking for me and my boyfriend David for us to help her.
@ah-shar-ya23632 ай бұрын
I believe every word she said. Her father's abuse. Her mother's turn on her for telling her truth. Her abusive and controlling husband. All those things can be true. He may have told or forced her to share the families secrets but it doesnt mean it wasnt true. The smartest thing she said was "we just don't know". Her backing out of her statements was a way to mend with her family. I like MJ just as much as any fan but i loved his music not his person because i didnt know him. What I do know is if MJ was the regular Uncle Mike down the street, he wouldn't have millions trying to defend him. We can like our fav celebs all we want. MJ's own family went years without seeing him at a time. They don't know what he did in his downtime. I feel for Latoya.
@loaoo47465 күн бұрын
What you’re seeing now is people standing up for MJ because all the charges were dropped, but he was still treated unfairly. Don’t forget that in the '90s, his fame didn’t shield him but brought more criticism
@Eastpointe6 ай бұрын
Latoya Jackson is an example of when parents don’t support their daughter’s real call and talent on Earth. She was never called to be an entertainer, which is why everything she did flopped. She was supposed to be that lawyer! And maybe MJ would still be alive.
@tinkerlove53192 ай бұрын
Agreed
@mystar3869 Жыл бұрын
Great story 👏 I'd love to hear more about Rebbie Jackson.
@babiijean11 Жыл бұрын
I think hers may be just as unfortunate as Michael's. Being the oldest female among so many siblings, I bet she caught. real hell!! Joe, sexually abused her. I seriously think he sexually abused ALL the weaker siblings, including Michael.
@arianhopkins5979 Жыл бұрын
Was not interested in the business, got married and moved on with her life.
@arianhopkins5979 Жыл бұрын
None of you know that Joe Jackson sexually abused any of his children and you need to be careful about spreading unsubstantiated allegations. His children were better off than many others and he worked hard for his family.
@edmondhodge2382 Жыл бұрын
REBBIE has the best voice amongst the 3 sisters. I just wish she'd give us more than the4 cds she gave us!
@RocStarr91311 ай бұрын
Michael gave her opportunities at times in the 1990’s through his record label.
@pm7128 Жыл бұрын
She is such a beautiful woman without all the heavy makeup she had on in the past.
@misterrightuk Жыл бұрын
I think you mean she was a beautiful woman without all of the surgery.
@TheBrownIsland Жыл бұрын
@@misterrightuk Just her NOSE which changed her looks completely. She's aged now that's Not Surgery.
@misterrightuk Жыл бұрын
@@TheBrownIsland “Just her NOSE changed” oh so it changed all by itself then did it? Or did she tell a surgeon to change it?
@ron.247 Жыл бұрын
@@misterrightuk I agree. Too much surgery on the nose. Really didn't need it.
@NicoleQuinn Жыл бұрын
Latoya and mike tyson what a great couple they would make😅
@babygirlshari4223 Жыл бұрын
“If you don't think your family has one... its probably you” Well damn...
@mystar3869 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to Latoia Jackson, she deserves to be happy. Hope she is finally living her life! So glad they resolved and got back together before MJ mysterious death. Never let this evil industry break up your family.
@polarfunk1756 Жыл бұрын
How she thought trusting her life in the hands of a devil, is beyond me🤦🏾♂️
@Ebony5001 Жыл бұрын
The W man? You mean ?
@polarfunk1756 Жыл бұрын
@@Ebony5001 👀
@marypeyton2461 Жыл бұрын
@@Ebony5001How about the B man her father???
@JustMeandGod_ Жыл бұрын
@@marypeyton2461 he shakes hands w the devil clearly
@RocStarr91311 ай бұрын
She was very weak-minded and had low self-esteem clearly.