How to Change a Ceiling light | Replacing a Rose Fitting

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[@darkspeed62]

Anyone else genuinely think this was going to be a lot easier than ot actually was? 🤣

[@turnerm87]

Yep, 100% me. After watching this I defiantly know I need to hire an electrician to upgrade my ceiling light

[@tipthebalance]

errr yes! I stupidly thought there would just be 3 wires and it would be a simple switch. Like, how did he know which wire went into which block in the new rose? Why can't they (manufacturers) colour-code these things?!

[@BenCos2018]

at 8:37 don't push terminals into the celing without a box even if you tape them it goes against code get a box for it

[@nicksss1843]

Yeah… naaa.. thank for this. 4mins in and I’m like “fk it I’ll call an electrician” 😂👍🏻

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Always best if your not feeling confident to do electrical work.

[@pauloroarty1799]

Cant stop laughing because I'm thinking the same

[@SiGr10614]

lmao, asoon as he starts explaining the different wires, i was looking for an electrician... i am literally too gay to even do this shit!!

[@davidbrooks9720]

Great help but you had four wires you put 3 in N L E what happened to the heiress you put a brown sleeve on it just disappeared please let me know thanks

[@turnerm87]

How can you tell exactly which wire is and does what? They obviously don't have writing or symbols on them? For example, there may be 3 of the same colored wire, but the way you explained it is that each individual wire has a specific purpose? If I am over thinking this, then I think you need to simplify how you're explaining this for the first timers of changing or upgrading a ceiling light fixture.

[@turnerm87]

One other thing. Why is it that the original rose fitting had multiple same color wires, but you've essentially funneled them into 1 per color? Why don't all newbuild house lights just have the 1 wire per color?

[@walkerrobinson9614]

Great video as always. Learning lots from this channel. I also agree and cannot emphasise enough, especially for novices like myself who are learning, its best practice to take photos step by step so if you forget or make a mistake, you can correct your course easy.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Thanks 👍

[@Phoenix-ov5gg]

@@TheDIYGuy1help 😢

[@gremlinsgoonies5371]

I did this but used Wago blocks, which make it even easier. Offer a very secure ‘click in’ and ‘click out’ for the wires which saves on the fiddly connection with traditional blocks and I think is actually stronger/more reliable.

[@ianofliverpool7701]

Too many wires.

[@turnerm87]

This literally looks like the most complicated thing I have ever seen DIY wise

[@alwaysbe16]

Great video thank you! What if our building has earth wire but my light fixture doesn’t? Do we just ignore the earth wire?

[@alexhughes8895]

I'm having the same issue!

[@lalakunalamatata6311]

Dude i dunno if its the headphones they're my other halfs gaming ones i just borrowed but you sound like you're right fcking behind me! Lol if anyones listened to the "surround-sound barbershop" they'll know the experience i speak of 😂😆. Is it just the headphones or what? Expecting you to hack into my hair with exposed wire at any moment lol. Anyway. Informative if v immersive video 😂👍

[@urbanstarship]

I'd recommend anyone doing this as a DIYer to use a volt pen. They're not too expensive. I double and triple check to see if the pen is working first so that I'm absolutely certain before touching anything.

[@sandyfleming9490]

Not sure if i missed the explanation. Wondering why all the live wires were grouped together and taped off?

[@kamran3013]

Basically the Live wires that were grouped together bring the power in and out so it wouldn't need to connect to the pendant, the wires that power the bulbs were the live and neutral which were connected in the pendany

[@calmingsounds7009]

Shouldnt you use a junction box to put all the terminals blocks in? I read its uk standard..

[@jonnybgood9162]

What happened to all the other live cables that you blocked off ? You terminated the switch live and the other live cables weren’t terminated?

[@samwalley]

Sorry I think I missed something. Why did you terminate the live wires?

[@Aitch_154]

Still none the wiser! I'll hire a Sparky I think 🙄

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Always best if you aren't sure.

[@royferguson3909]

me too , I don't want to take any chances

[@pattiea9291]

Thanks for that. I understand mostly so will get hubby to watch to see if we can get a light in the kitchen after weeks without. Seem to have loads of red wires in ours though 🙈

[@davidfrimpong9611]

@@pattiea9291I had the same and mine feeds another room! Absolute nightmare

[@thelostsouls582]

​@@TheDIYGuy1 please help

[@samanthadavey6665]

Just about to attempt my first light change as I’m in the middle of moving house and the daughter wants to take her ceiling light with her. Thanks for the video absolutely great being able to find this kind of info online. Fingers crossed that I don’t electrocute myself! 😅

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Thanks for your comments. Just be careful and ask for help if unsure

[@mancbiker17]

Yeah, for me this is what KZbin is best at, getting useful information :)

[@1ChelseaBoi]

Hi why do you terminate the other 3 lives ??will all the other lights in the house still work when doing this ? And what happens if u put those 3 in the same terminal block as the switch live and connect it to the new light ?

[@pauloroarty1799]

Thanks but its still a bit scary.How comes you took all those different bundles of wires and put them in blocks together ? also, how do you know which of the blue one's to lose?

[@ich8159]

The one to loose was the one of the old light fitting.

[@boredoftherings2438]

I followed this to the letter but didn't work. For the 3 old red wires, do the need to all go in the top terminal instead of 3 separate ones? Also which terminal block size are used the larger or smaller ones. I used the smaller ones or doesn't it matter . Thanks again great video

[@jfarrell50]

Thank you for this. I was totally lost when I took the ceiling rose off and found so many wires. Your clear advice made the job a lot easier for me to do. Brilliant!!!

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Your welcome

[@jasonsimmons9347]

What amp terminal blocks are you using. I just went to buy some after watching your video and there's different amps block to buy

[@rachelgraham471]

How come the switch live wore disappeared

[@AkadeProductions]

What did you do with the switch live ? The video cuts and cant see it nomore…..

[@ALIJP2004]

7:03 Is it ok to just push the wires into the cavity. I've seen conflicting videos.

[@erelpc]

Any non-sheathed cables need to have mechanical protection, e.g. in an enclosure like a junction box or the light fitting itself. In this case it didn't look like he actually tucked them up in the ceiling, but enclosed them within the light fixture base, which is fine and compliant with the regs.

[@careypearson6128]

Your a life saver. I was putting up lights for a friend and ran across this problem and your video sorted it for me. So THANK YOU

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Very welcome 👍

[@ArtSurroundsYouAll]

Great videos!, I just need help with something, I had to replace my ceiling rose as my new light fitting is smaller than the rose. so I have installed the Wago clips, however the problem I have is like your set up here my ceiling rose has three cables coming through the rose, basically it has 2 neutrals connecting into one connector like you did, however with the Wago clips you cant put two neutral wires into one hole on the wago, so I assumed by putting it into a 4 way wago clip so each neutral is now in its own connector, because there are 4 neutral cables including the cable to the light fitting, however since I have wired it up my living room light wont come on, in fact it has tripped the fuse switch. So is it because the two neutral wires aren't connected as one, and if so what would you recommend to do as the wago doesnt work with two wires in one hole, if its not that what could be causing the other light to trip off?!

[@johncrimmins1954]

Good video…me diy er. Putting up same lights tomorrow. Hope I remember all you showed me. Thank you …

[@RossHbn]

Great video. Thanks. Might delay till after I've got my asbestos artex ceilings sorted. 👍

[@TK-kq3su]

Hi, blue terminal to blue brown to brown live and earth to earth. Where does switch live go to??

[@ianwebb6182]

Thanks for video. Hardest part for me was cramming the cables behind and actually screwing the light fitting to the bracket! Took way over 30 minutes just to get the screws in - arms are killing! Tip - be good if you could advise on part specs eg. cable thickness, blocks etc. thanks

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Thanks for the feedback. Glad the video helped.

[@giampaoloscarpaci1291]

I’ve changed 3 ceiling lights following this video… thank you so much 🎉🎉

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Glad it helped

[@marti118118]

We bought our first home just over a year ago and so many of your videos have helped me do so much to my out dated home. Just popping on here to remind myself on the light swap I’ve already done 3 rooms but that was few months ago. Keep up with all your video and your living room is mega. We have the same colour on a feature wall in our dining room. Thanks

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Great job! Thanks a lot

[@kklee6296]

Hello, I just want to learn more from you about EV charger installation. Thanks,

[@leefrith359]

Just changed a light fitting using your guidance from this video - perfect! Thanks a lot, keep up the great work!

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Fantastic, glad it helped!

[@purplespark8]

Do you open the breaker before this? Cos I didn't hear this in the video and yet he was touching the live wires without any precaution. From what I understand, the live and neutral wires should not touch each other at all

[@SarahDevonport-pb2zi]

Why do you need to terminate the 3 brown live wires? I'm trying to wire in a few similar fixtures so want to understand each step 👍

[@bevboswell981]

I'm wondering the same

[@callumsimpson7483]

Only thing I would of Done slightly different is using wago connectors. No need to wrap tape around them and so easy fit and can do in seconds.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Completely agree. Just didn't have any in my bag at the time of filming.

[@peterbarkley4418]

Same here, love wago's

[@gavowassy7655]

I thought the connector block had to go inside an enclosure to comply with the wiring regs but it's completely unpractical tho

[@AKAHowitzer]

Mate, Absolute legend. I couldn't figure out the wiring, there were so many of them. I do have a "Very" basic understanding of electrical jobs and taking the rose of f the ceiling just boggled my mind lol. My understanding went from basic to cave man in a split second. Thanks for the explanation.. Massive help. Mate if I ever see you IRL I owe you a beer. Mrs was losing her shit that I could't figure it out haha.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Your welcome!

[@richardjones4175]

Thought id attempt changing our ceiling light in the living room after watching this video. Took old light off found 2 red wires in a connection block taped up,a blue and black wire into neutral connection, 2 earth into earth connection and a single yellow wire into the live. Connected new light exactly like old light ,and nothing????. Time for an electrician

[@courtneyhall3413]

I don’t suppose you could help, I believe I’ve successfully change two bedroom lights now using this great video as a guide, both lights work perfectly fine however, we’ve gone to use our bathroom lights which are spotlights and both upstairs bathrooms are not work. Is this due to something I’ve done whilst changing the bedroom lights? Many thanks any advice would be appreciated

[@jezebabe]

Thanks, very useful video. My LED light fitting says that it is double insulated and earth must not be connect to the metal housing. I guess I would just put a terminal block on the earth wires, wrap with insulating tape and push into the ceiling cavity? Cheers

[@aliyatesss]

So I’ve got a metal light fitting but the block doesn’t have an earth? What do I do with my earth wires ? Guessing I’ve got a double insulated block so it doesn’t require an earth ?

[@tk4270]

What if one has 2 blue wires coming out of the ceiling for lights/fan with one blue wire taped in brown tape being live switch wire. Does the blue wire go into a neutral terminal, and the blue wire with brown tape go into live terminal?

[@hamacintyre]

Excellent thanks so much. I'm a beginner in terms of home lighting DIY but it was exactly what I was after. Forgot to take a photo beforehand so was left with lots of wires and a bit confused. Now much happier. Excellent video. Ta

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Glad it helped!

[@paulbullock8634]

You don’t need to remove the rose. The bracket slots behind it and the two wires go into the existing rose. Looking for a video to share with a novice. This is not the one. Good job otherwise but the most complicated way of doing it.

[@aurimasdidziulis7610]

What size terminal block is that ? I’ve got some but it looks like my one is very small 6A Terminal Strip

[@sdapalli5743]

Great Video and very well explained the connections which really helped me to install semi flush led ceiling light. Learned few things too #ThanksDIY

[@stevenplane7817]

I have installed a new light fitting in my dining room but have now lost the light in my kitchen after following this video, but the switch live sleeve did come off the wire so do i need to just need to try all the neutral wires to see which one works

[@Harry-xq7gx]

Nice video, would it be the same if you have 4 wires coming in? 4 live 4 earth then 3 negative and 1 switch?

[@MrJokerh61]

I got a bit nervous taking all the wires out but like you said take a photo just incase ! But I have put my light up many thanks...

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Your welcome 👍

[@nigelp4328]

When you have three of each colour wire how do you know which one is which i.e. earth wire from consumer unit, earth wire to the switch and earth wire on the loop?

[@Ajmal-122]

Too long and complicated man 😅. Why do many wires?!!! 😬

[@AfterBurner369]

Nice one. 👍👍I'm a 61 yr old female retiree & I'm gonna try this. I've got 2 livingroom lights that need to be replaced. 🙏🤞😊

[@TheDIYGuy1]

You can do it!

[@shereeceashley8278]

Any idea how i would figure out which wire is my switch live if it doesnt have a brown sleeve on?

[@LBDANDER98]

Silly question but where did you get the wire to lengthen and what wire is it? Thanks

[@ich8159]

I am trying to fit a German light similar to yours in Ireland which seems to have the same system as the UK. The wires are extremely short, I had hardly enough space to get my screwdriver in and I could not really see anything, because I was a bit too short. Once I has wired everything up nothing happened… no light… 🙄 Now I know how to extend the length of the wires and can give it another try rather than having to give up and live without a ceiling light in my bedroom. Thank you so much! Could you please also do a video on how to connect an induction hob? There is no socket and no box, the wires of the current hob are somehow directly connected to the wires in the wall and stuck together with a lot of duct tape.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

I'll see what I can do for you thanks

[@ich8159]

@@TheDIYGuy1 Thank you so much!

[@whataday365]

Brilliant, exactly what I needed, many thanks much appreciated 👍

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Your welcome

[@hitenpatel7585]

Thanks, you have a knack of explaining things. I have watched a few of your videos, and they are VERY helpful.

[@paulb9769]

Are terminal blocks frowned upon these days?

[@thelostsouls582]

Can you help me please there 2 neutrals 4 lives 2 lives in 1 1 live nxt then a live next to the live to pendant

[@alexhughes8895]

Urgent help needed! We've had an issue were the light fixture is always on, although extremely dimly lit when turned off. I'm about to have go and watching this video it seems that the switch live is probably connected to the normal lives. @6:23 you put the switch live in its OWN terminal block, separately from the lives. What did you do with the 3 LIVE wires when you connected the earth, neutral and switch live to the pendant? I only saw 3 terminal blocks as you were doing it at the end, but there should have been 4 (Switch live, live, neutral and earth) Were getting a fishy smell coming from it which is bad news.

[@siani5299]

Hi did u manage to sort it?

[@alexhughes8895]

@siani5299 I literally took a professional electricians course since then lol. And yes it's fixed! Was a breakdown in the insulation causing the issue, I just run new cable and it's all sorted now 👌

[@noxin86]

Hi mate, which terminal block to get from screwfix 30A or the 16A ? Does it matter?

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Hi, 16 or 30 would both be sufficiently rated for this job

[@aarongreen9742]

If I want to install LED light bulbs into this Rose Fitting, I would need a driver, correcT?Otherwse voltage too high/not DC, etc? Can anyone please link a video for me on how to install an LED driver into a ceiling light that isn’t dimmable light switch???

[@duncanjferg]

Most led (gu10 bulbs l) have an integrated driver

[@lewisner]

I just bought a ceiling light and freaked out when I saw all the wires. I think I can maybe do it myself but it doesn't show any of this in the store

[@anthonyperkins6178]

Have you done a video but reverse i want to put a ceiling rose back up ?

[@bushmanuk100]

Great video what amp terminal block do you use

[@Nyle95]

How do you know which live is which and which neutral is which?

[@kwithnics2134]

My sister-in-law has asked me to put up a new light fitting. But it's got cables I've never worked with before. There are three cables all encased in clear PVC. They all have a silver metallic core. Two are the same and are thicker than the third one. The thinner, third one also has a thin red thread running along the length of it inside the pvc cover. I'm not sure which is which tbh. Could you offer any advice please DIY Guy ?

[@TheCrimeReel]

Thanks for a nice clear video

[@TheDIYGuy1]

You're welcome

[@ouimili79]

Although I still don't understand why I need three wires to connect a light, or why the brown wires are not used. But after watching this video three times and following it to the letter, I managed to replace my kitchen ceiling light. Thank you so much!

[@Loub230]

I’m the same with the brown wires. Just put them in a block and stuffed them away. I don’t get it.

[@Brynben1]

​@@Loub230the brown wires (line) are terminated together in one block to ensure the circuit continuity. Same with the blue (neutral) wires. This means the circuit remains connected

[@gaudusiaag]

Watched 6 times ! Still looks too difficult for me to do it 😢

[@Flyingtwiglet]

Good video. I've just had to replace the downstairs cloakroom light and there are even more wires! Cables to the extractor fan too. Unfortunately the light fitting has a large flat disc as the base plate so there is nowhere to put cables - they all need to go into the roof cavity. I've used Wago's for this and shoved them all up through the hole as you show here. But do they need to they need to go into a protective box? I thought wires just in their sheath should not be exposed? If I do need a box, can you recommend one that will fit through an enlarged but reasonably small hole in the ceiling. Not found one yet.....

[@xP1nkP0nyx]

But I’ve only got three wires hanging out not 6??

[@bingbollard]

Beem following your new house bits and came across this at just the right time, thank you! Why is one of the negative wites a "live" and why do you not need to plug any of the actual live wires in? Just doesnt seem logical. Ps im sure it makes sense when you know why 😂

[@russ623]

Just an idea but a video on tall wardrobes with doors but especially with 2 or 3 sliders ( Wren , Wickes etc who may have different designs ). Thank you.

[@ChelseaboiKLTFC]

Good video.....definitely made my mind up to get someone else to do it after I saw the rose! 🤣. And is that a fellow norfolk accent I detect? 🤔

[@TheDIYGuy1]

Yes indeed lol

[@jackmalvern5699]

It's crazy that retailers sell ceiling roses that require terminal blocks (not included in purchase) to make them compatible with standard ceiling fittings. Whose idea was that?

[@VSTV1993]

just changed my light fitting BUT the switched live wire was actually a live cable (red) its wasn't a neutral with a sleeve and it all works even with the light switch... its baffled me

[@slaanesh12]

I only have a single live a neutral wire coming out of my ceiling. From what I can see all over wires such as the earth are tucked away in the ceiling. I’m looking to install a pendant ceiling rose light fitting. One with the row of connectors. Would it be okay to place my single neutral wire in the neutral connector and the single live wire into the line connector ?

[@thomaslloyd945]

I’m trying to change my bedroom light there’s power to the fitting but when I try and put a bulb in it doesn’t work and when I try and turn it off the power is still there. Any suggestions?

[@festralbloke]

I seem to have two switch live cables. Is this because the one ceiling light, is operated by two different switches. Do I join the two switch live cables together?

[@achillefurioso6639]

Really nice and clear video. Doesn't anyone know how many amperes should be the terminal blocks for lighting?

[@0prisonpriest0]

You really shouldn’t push terminal blocks into the ceiling void. Connections need to be in maintenance free classed junction boxes

[@yousufb93]

Ive just fit a new light fixture, it works fine. But I've noticed my light switch in the next room has flipped in reverse 😂

[@haworthtrevor]

Wago 222 connectors are better than terminal blocks with insulation tape which will eventually drop off anyway.

[@larrymiles-h6x]

What size wire do I need to connect to connecter block

[@Paul-eu5nn]

Hi bud great video btw! Also please could you give me some advice on where the switch live needs to go? I have a new light fitting and it only has a live and a neutral. Sorry for the hassle

[@ashdixon924]

Thanks for this! You must be a Norfolk boy from your accent?! Very helpful video thanks!

[@leebrailsford251]

Id always a take a photo of any lighting oart your touching, that way if you have to go elsewhere then youve got a good reference to refer to.

[@TheDIYGuy1]

👍

[@TheYitzach]

Brilliant thanks bud.

[@axelhamer7106]

Thank you SO MUCH. I was worried about the terminal blocks I bought being WRONG! Piece of ... pie when you see it done, NOT a spaghetti junction nightmare!

[@mick0846]

If they where all the same then it would be alot easier but i guarantee that I'll go to do mine and it will be completely different?.. at witch point my head will fall off 🤯

[@TheDIYGuy1]

😆 principle should remain the same even if slightly different

[@MrAnalogue1]

Very informative video. Thank you. 👍 I find that my consumer unit trips when connecting the wires. Any ideas?

[@whiteyboi1000]

Great advice , just a quick one I have some spare 5 core 0.85 wire would this be OK to use to connect to connection blocks to light?

[@newcastlemad4031]

Fuck that to many wires well done thou

[@Beyouteedesign]

Quick question, what if you have 2 of every wire. But only 3 ports in your new light fixture?

[@grantt6724]

Great help mate! Thanks for your very helpful posts! Keep it up 👌👍✌️

[@lloydyno1]

Maybe its just me here as i'm about to try to do mine after watching this video, but... you haven't shown the switch wire being connected back up? it's tucked up into the ceiling & yet your light works fine apparently (not actually shown) does this wire need to be connected or not?

[@Loub230]

Looks to me he has connected the switch wire, but then just put the other lives into a block and insulated it. I don’t understand why they aren’t used and can’t seem to find an answer 😢

[@kamran3013]

​@@Loub230 The live wires were connected to each other as a LOOP connector block There were 3 cables One bringing the power to this pendant Second providing power to the switch Third would be the loop from one pendant to another Since they are connected to each other through a connecter block they don't need to be connected to this pendant The power to the bulb comes from the live terminal on the pendant not the LOOP

[@connorcoulthard8819]

Is this the same process with tube lights please

[@Bozzyclan666]

How do I know which is the live switch one cheers