HeroQuest + AxianQuest Infinite Dungeons = the way it should be played (HeroQuest Solo)

[@FarawayPictures]

A couple of updates since buying this: The movement when there's no monsters is 4 per dice, so a movement of 8. The missing furniture cards, I asked the designer and he said that unless a quest specifies a certain piece, then you can draw at random and see what you get.

[@TheFatalT]

I hope a PDF print at home option becomes available. Otherwise it’s just unaffordable for us in AU/NZ 😢

[@CavernadoLekkis]

I'm looking forward to it too!

[@WarpaintStudios]

I just said the same thing. for me (in the UK) it will cost over $135usd for the bundle. unfortunatley te creator has said he has no plans to make a pdf print at home version. which i think would sell very well if he charged half the printed version cost.

[@user-fr1ys2wn4t]

I don't understand why he wouldn't sell PDF files. For the creator it's basically just money rolling in with little to no work.

[@loicguimmara8946]

A lot of people asked him , well look like he dont Care

[@davidk6269]

What a fun combination. This clearly is a very fun way to play HeroQuest solo. Thank you, Daniel!

[@jarldjevel6111]

Perfect! Just ordered the bundle a few days ago. I will also introduce a homemade bestiary and probably roll on my table once I draw any monster card. Maybe also keep the solo exploration rules found on BGG ? And draw the required number of cards when entering a room? Can't wait.

[@darkstranger777]

Heroquest is one of those rare boardgames that has longevity due to all the new products and expansions that come out for it time and time again. These cards definitely give it a new way to play. The downside is that the dungeon board gets repetitive and the beastiary needs alot more variety. My remedy to this is that I use loke battle maps to change the scenery and use miniatures from pathfinder and dnd

[@noodlemans]

It has endless home brew potential. You can make cards for any mini you have and there are hundreds of fan quests to play.

[@plazma2891]

I actually just picked up the whole bundle of cards from Axian spice and I also asked him if he is going to be making cards for all the expansion monsters and he said he is working on it now. That's very exciting and something to look forward to I can't wait

[@Learnjapanesefromsomeguy]

Just ordered this. Looks like a lot of fun! I'm older now, and it is hard for my friends and I to play regularly, but if I could just have a fun little game to mess around with 10-15 minutes a day that would be pretty neat. And, it seems like if I got together with friends, we could play and not have to worry about continuing any kind of campaign, or whatever. Thanks for the nice video.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Sure thing! Have fun!

[@BillHolmesUSN]

Thanks for bringing this to light Daniel, I just ordered all of the AxionQuest material!!!!

[@TheDungeonDive]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@wesharr2792]

That's awesome, thanks for posting the video, I ended up ordering the bundle, i have nothing against using the app, but it just feels so limited, it's too bad they couldn't expand on it more.

[@apolloangel9374]

I love your videos on old school/old school like games!

[@bravo320zf]

I have been using these with my Megaquest Hero Pack set and my friends and I love it! :D

[@sixten3000]

As i understand when i read the infinite dungeon rules, it writes "When playing without a Zorgan player, if there are no monsters on the board, instead of rolling your movement dice, simply assume each die has rolled a 4" i read that as you roll 2 4's meaning an MA at 8 not 4.

[@cheackertroop]

Watched this heroquest series when it came out, and now I'm back here once again due to Heroquest going on sale for half price here in the UK at the moment which js an absolute steal! Cant wait to dive into some solo dungeon goodness!

[@jonathan2950]

It’s tempting but with postage to the UK the full bundle with discount is £90. That’s before any import fees and obviously will be even more expensive after 30th October. I remember the days when the USD to GBP exchange rate meant you could pretty much half the USD price to get the GBP price. I don’t think I can justify £90+ for this, as cool as it looks.

[@AceMathias]

I'm also in the UK and would love a more affordable option, as it sounds a really exciting system

[@WarpaintStudios]

I was also looking to buy but it's now £102 excluding import charges, which, considering the core game is only £60 on amazon just isn't justifiable for some cards. it's a shame the creator has no plans for a pdf print at home version at half the cost 😕

[@patkelley8293]

I'm going to pick up these cards and play along with you. I like the feel of this game. Simple and fun.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Totally simple and fun.

[@davidautinify]

just got my axianquest cards yesterday, can't wait to put them to use. :) also very much looking forward to trying out your bestiary rules!

[@asowle]

Looking forward to watching this video good sir...mine is ordered and looking forward to trying them with Dungeon saga O when it arrives too.... enjoy your week

[@jblitzen]

This sold me on the bundle. Thank you, DD!

[@kevinstricklen7579]

Alright I am sold and will be buying the bundle as I mostly play solo and don’t care for the app. I do look forward to the Artifact deck and the relic creature that spawns when the adventures have too many artifacts.

[@ludditzthrell]

Ooooooooooooh... okay, as someone who loves Shadows of Brimstone and Warhammer Quest, this looks like a lot of fun. Not as heavy as those games can be (though I've found my own solution for that when I just want to play for a little bit) but it's still got a good amount of crunch to it. If I can find a copy of Hero Quest and the expansions for a fair price, you can be certain I'll be buying these, too. Y'know, assuming I have a few hundred dollars sitting around gathering dust.

[@jstutz]

I like how fast things move. I wonder if this could be used with another game. I don’t think it would take too much changing of anything to use Descent 2nd edition with this system. You definitely would get more enemy variety as well. I’m thinking if I get this and combine descent 2nd rules, characters, enemies with the HQ board and this card system. Also I think this all would combine really well with the HeroQuest Roleplay book. Truly would be a Warhammer quest lite.

[@fightingfortruth9806]

This looks really awesome. I'd love to play it using my Dwarven Forge pieces. Please post your custom monster charts, I would use it as well.

[@TheDungeonDive]

The WIP Bestiary is available to Dungeon Dive Patrons.

[@genghisgahan9623]

I ordered this a couple of days ago. Even with the big Halloween catch up discount, shipping from 🇺🇸 to 🇬🇧 means it is almost as expensive as backing league of dungeoneers. So obviously I went for these cards instead. I hope I have made the right choice. My rationale is that with the solo adventurers toolbox and scarlet heroes (and a bunch of other bits and bobs)- I think I can already fulfill that whole sandbox adventurers experience. Time will tell, time will tell.

[@asowle]

Ordered myself from the states to the Uk...eek the cost...!

[@wagner594]

Ordered the whole bundle. Now it stays at customs soon to arrive! 😊 I have prepared new minis (monsters and bosses) and a custom game mat. Really looking forward to this!

[@TheDungeonDive]

Hope you enjoy it! It's great. I've got a new HQ video coming out soon!

[@wagner594]

@@TheDungeonDive great! Looking forward.

[@WhiteRhinoPSO]

I recently heard that one of the official expansions had something they called "unthreatened movement." Essentially, if there were no monsters on the board, a hero is allowed to move 4 squares per movement die they would normally have. So in regular play, assuming nobody has been penalized to move less than their standard movement, then this system would give a hero 8 squares of movement. Once monsters start showing up on the board, then it's back to rolling the movement dice. Also, today I learned that "famelic" means hungry.

[@kevinhill8032]

really want these but cost to much to ship to the UK

[@jonathan2950]

I’m finding the USD to GBP exchange rate the main issue with making this expensive. I remember the days when you could just take roughly 50% of the USD price to get the GBP price. That would make it much more palatable 😂

[@gbraadnl]

12:30 and that is why the cards are smaller, so they fit the rooms

[@TheDungeonDive]

I can see that, but since the cards don't stay on the board, I'd prefer larger cards just to make it easier to read. Sometimes small cards are fine, but there's a lot of text on these.

[@FarawayPictures]

This looks brilliant. I wonder how easy it is to play with some of the custom boards you can get.

[@TheDungeonDive]

I would imagine super easy. I’ve even used them with Loke Battlemats.

[@TheSerasi80]

If there are no monsters on the board, it says you can move 4 spaces per die. So that would be 8 total and only 4 spaces if you wear plate mail (minus 1 die for plate mail).

[@TheDungeonDive]

Cool!

[@Sicon1976]

Love this cards, sadly they are only in printed form, no pdf :(

[@joejohnson2291]

C'mon Drivethru, ship my copy out already! :P

[@greyendres4745]

Excellent

[@RedwoodRhiadra]

In that first room, since you have three Heroes that Chaos Warrior statue should have come with two Orcs, I think.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Yep! In all of my previous games I was playing with 2 heroes, so I looked at the wrong line. Thanks!

[@yodaflyz]

Looks like an interesting fan made expansion.

[@coppermutant]

Bit off topic but I've been enjoying your solo RPG videos and was wondering if there's a good tool or system to support solo Gamma World (3e) or MCC play? Most of the sandbox and table books seem to be fantasy-themed?

[@TheDungeonDive]

Fantasy seems to enjoy the lion's share of supplements, but I think a general oracle could work for GW and MCC. As far as tools like random charts to supplement play, I'm not sure. I think GW and MCC are weird enough that with a little imagination you could make fantasy tools work. Just say skeletons are skeletal mutants, or change swords to VibraSwords or stuff like that.

[@coppermutant]

@TheDungeonDive thanks for the reply! The idea with modified tables is a good one. I did actually find something this morning, the "Solo Game Masters Guide" that calls out Mutant Crawl Classics specifically by "Modiphius Entertainment". I'll give that a try but from the reviews sounds like I still may need some supplemental tables - maybe I can just cook some alternate tables up myself in advance of play with some inspiration from the ones you shared in your videos.

[@thesefiremountains2136]

@thedungeondive Could this work well using modular board tiles?

[@TheDungeonDive]

No. It's specifically made for a pre-made map, and works great. So even if you had modular tiles, you'd still need to build the map before hand to populate the rooms. It's designed to work specifically with the HeroQuest board and I guess other pre-made maps. You could use it with some Loke Battlemat books for instance. I'm sure someone will come up with something, but for me that would kind of defeat the point.

[@lorenpola8522]

Do you feel the infinite dungeons accomplishes anything that no dungeon crawl before it has? Independently of it being for heroquest?

[@TheDungeonDive]

No.

[@jamesarnoldi2269]

I'm not a fan of one vs many but Heroquest, to me, isn't one vs many game. It's a GMed mode where the Zargon player isn't against the other players, trying to defeat them, but moderating a fun dungeon crawler. The GM mode is my absolutely favorite way to dungeon crawl but very few DCers play that way. As a co-op mode though, this does seem pretty good and I do prefer co-op to one vs many games like Descent.

[@arikwolf3777]

I'd add a random element to your substitute enemies list: Tier 1: Roll d6 on 6 (or 5-6) Dread Cultist, otherwise face the enemy listed on card. Tier 2: Roll d6 1-2 Orc, 3-4 The Scout, 5-6 Specter, Etc. For any enemy rolled that you do not have, use enemy list on card. You have a great idea here. And you convinced me to buy AxianQuest and AxianQuest Infinite Dungeons,

[@TheDungeonDive]

Yeah! There are so many ways you could accomplish that.

[@sonsofsun]

Do you have a pdf of what you made so i could print it out? For adding the extra monsters from expansions.

[@TheDungeonDive]

It's available as a perk for Dungeon Dive patrons. It is only a WIP, as it will take many, many games to balance.

[@jawsvvvvv]

Totally agree with you old eyes need full size cards. I would be on this if they were bigger. The text is crazy small.

[@gbraadnl]

it is made this way to fit the smallest rooms

[@WarpaintStudios]

I love the look of this system, however, the only reason i wont get it (personally but i think others may feel the same) is the cost, with shipping, taxes and import charges to the UK it is going to cost me over $135 for the BUNDLE set (infinite dungeon plus all the large card decks) which i think is just to much for a bunch of cards considerig the core game only cost me half that in gbp. I think this would have much more sales if the creator offered a pdf print at home version for half the price (which i would jump on). It is shame he has said he has no plans to make a pdf version.

[@Ribby00]

i LOVE that you can go to 6 heroes!

[@TheDungeonDive]

It's actually 5. I made a mistake on that part.

[@Ribby00]

@@TheDungeonDive d'oh! still, even with 5 that's amazing

[@DarkneZz0]

For me in Poland it's $130.45 for the catch up bundle, shipping included. Sadly I think the price is unaffordable 😢

[@fredericetile2505]

Hi, when you discover a Clue card, you need to read the text and place, for instance, a token in the room to investigate (action without a monster in the room). Thank you for this very interesting video ! Can you please share a link to your bestiary?

[@TheDungeonDive]

The bestiary WIP is a perk for Dungeon Dive patrons.

[@preacherbeeman3437]

I really think I'm going to order this bundle of cards. I really would love to get my hands on your tier list and monster abilities. Great coverage of the system. The only thing I didn't see here that I am really curious about is the ai for the monsters. How do they act once they are on the board?

[@TheDungeonDive]

You just play the monsters to the best of their abilities. My monster WIP is available to Dungeon Dive patrons.

[@n4tune8]

I use the same AI as in Gloomhaven, using Movement as Initiative. So monsters with highest Movement act first, and they attack the closest hero. If two heroes are at the same distance, they attack the one with the highest Movement. One rule I changed is that there is no Zargon turn, heroes and monsters act in order of Movement and all heroes roll Movement at the beginning of the round.

[@heathgray1277]

I am wording the cards so that I can play this and I have a few questions. Would this system work with the heroquest XP on BGG where the hero's gain new abilities? Is there any monster cards out there that give them abilities that you like to use and would it work with these cards?

[@TheDungeonDive]

It probably would. I don't know of any monster cards.

[@thepardoner2059]

Daniel, is all the AxianQuest material compatible with the original HeroQuest material, for gamers who own only the original material?

[@TheDungeonDive]

I think so, but can't say 100% because I have little experience with it. However, the base games of HQ are pretty much identical, so I would imagine it works just fine.

[@thepardoner2059]

@@TheDungeonDive Thanks, Daniel. I thought so, but I just couldn't find any official statement to that effect.

[@BlackPepperGameStudio]

@@thepardoner2059 Hey there, Giuseppe/Axian here. The current edition of HQ has the same rules as the original NA version, they are basically the same game. The AQ decks were designed to be compatible with the current edition, so if you own the original North America game, you're good. The only bit that I can warn you about is that the cards of the original game had their own format, so the AQ cards will immediately look different. But then again, you are never required to mix or shuffle them together, so it's just an esthetic issue. On the other hand, if you own the original EU version (where all monsters have 1 BP), things might get a bit wonky here and there. Probably not much, but still.... I had the original EU version back then, but I've been using only the new edition since it came out, and don't remember much about other differences.

[@thepardoner2059]

@@BlackPepperGameStudio Many thanks for the thorough answer, Giuseppe. The Axian material looks wonderful!

[@BlackPepperGameStudio]

Cheers!! @@thepardoner2059

[@StabSam]

I would just play advanced enhanced reforged HQ. Its cheaper and and it has way more variation.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Tons of great options out there! Pick the one that works best for you.

[@Learnjapanesefromsomeguy]

My deck just came today (I only bought the Infinite Dungeon Deck) and I tested it by myself. I notice that you do not search for treasure when you clear a room. Is that because you have the Furniture cards and Event cards? The rule sheet says to (on step 5) "Resume play normally." So, are heroes still allowed to search for treasures in rooms in Infinite Dungeon? Also, I regret not buying the bundle AxianQuest offers, but I'm going to purchase it now. It will come with another Infinite Dungeon deck, but perhaps I can gift it to a friend, or double up on cards I like.

[@TheDungeonDive]

I just forgot to search.

[@Learnjapanesefromsomeguy]

@@TheDungeonDive I see. Also, another thing I noticed in the rules is that the Monsters move after the oldest player, and that the oldest player is supposed to go first. I like this rule. This basically means, if there are three heroes, one player character enters the room, and then the monsters have their turn, and then the remaining player characters act their turns and the rounds continue like this. Is this a rule in the base game? Or is this something ID decided to add? I find that sometimes the heroes in my campaign (where I play Zargon) can dispatch most monsters before they have a chance to do any real damage. Rolling for initiative seems like it would break the pace of the game.

[@Jayson-tw4qp]

You mention monster cards you were working on. where can we find those? i would love to add them to my games!

[@TheDungeonDive]

I have a swapping system for the cards already made in AxianQuest. It’s on my WIP HQ bestiary, which is a perk for DD patrons.

[@BossTripp1]

with putting the cards out ahead of time, wouldn't that destroy the fact that you know the layout of the dungeon? I guess playing by yourself, their is now way to not spoil it.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Not really, because you never know what's on the cards, so the exploration is still totally intact. The dungeon layout in these games doesn't create the sense of exploration, what you find in the dungeon does.

[@BlackPepperGameStudio]

Hello there, Giuseppe/Axian here. By putting the cards on the board, you know which rooms have something in them, but you still don't know how they are connected, because you place doors while playing. In my experience (and playtest), even when playing alone, I'm always surprised of how the final dungeon turned out because of how I placed the doors while playing. In multiplayer gmless games, the effect is even stronger because it's the player who opens a door that has to place the next door. The design of the deck and its rules were based on the assumption that exploration becomes more meaningful when you actually possess *some* information about what's ahead, so as to (at least some times) take informed decisions about where to go next. With zero information, opening the door to the left or to the right is a meaningless choice. This is also the reason why the Clue cards allow you to reveal one or two cards from unexplored rooms.

[@ygor9547]

Hi, but basically which deck is mandatory to play without GM? Thanks.

[@TheDungeonDive]

The infinite dungeons deck.

[@donnybrasco127]

Hi Daniel nice video, have you reviewed other HQ homebrew material?

[@TheDungeonDive]

I have an entire episode devoted to it. It's in the HQ playlist!

[@donnybrasco127]

@@TheDungeonDive great, will check out

[@plazma2891]

did you finish the monster expansion? i was already thinking of becoming a patron that will be the icing on the cake

[@TheDungeonDive]

It's still a WIP but in good shape. Will take many, many games to fine tune the numbers, but I'll probably leave that up to other players to do on their own.

[@pauuloandre]

What rules u make for gain more money ? Because the artifacts, things to buy and the heroic skills are exepensive.

[@RazzleDazzleSunshine]

Will you be making the monster abilities available?

[@TheDungeonDive]

To Dungeon Dive patrons.

[@eddieharr]

Do these, including infinite dungeon, work with the expansions as well? Also, can you play the actual quests in core box and expansions solo with using these cards? I suppose not because you have to then use the maps in the quests.

[@TheDungeonDive]

These are not for playing the pre-written quests. They can be easily adapted to using the monsters from the expansions, just by making substitutions as you see fit.

[@eddieharr]

I guess really only way to do that is the app huh? Im like you, I love apps with games (imperial assault and descent 2nd edition to it perfectly). However, the app with this game I barely feel like Im playing the board game at all. @@TheDungeonDive

[@TheDungeonDive]

I'm not a fan of the quests that come with the game. The ones I can create on my own with all the various tools I've shown are way more fun for me.

[@eddieharr]

ooooh interesting. Seriously interested in getting the Axianquest set. They are just over $80 for cards and that gives me pause haha. @@TheDungeonDive

[@adownbeatexegete1549]

Did you figure out how to use AxianQuest with the expansions? I just bought four expansions and the 7-deck AxianQuest bundle.

[@TheDungeonDive]

I would just sub in new monsters for old. I created a power tier list to sub monsters in for one another.

[@adownbeatexegete1549]

@@TheDungeonDive Can you make a video or just post a link to the list? Sorry, I'm a perfectionist.

[@TheDungeonDive]

It's available as a WIP to Dungeon Dive patrons. One of the perks for people who can and want to support the channel.

[@LoretakersGamingRoom]

How is this working with other official expansions?

[@TheDungeonDive]

I just mix stuff together and play. The cards don't officially support the expansions yet, but swapping like for like and making adjustments on the fly works perfectly for this kind of open ended sandbox style dungeon crawl. I don't really care about "sticking to the rules" in these kinds of games, so I'm constantly messing with things. If you're looking for strict rules and balance, and things that cover all the bases, they may not work for you.

[@gogol1st]

why didnt you play the clue cards text ?

[@TheDungeonDive]

Just skipped it for the video. This isn't a rules teach or anything like that.

[@normang3444]

i see no way to chat the creater of this to ask if this is usable with the 2023 Mystic Level Hero Quest game? Is it?

[@TheDungeonDive]

It’s usable with anything HeroQuest.

[@normang3444]

@@TheDungeonDive SOLD!!! And I'm subscribing!

[@georgeadsett-knutsen829]

Small print? It’s not fine, it’s a pass from me…

[@TheDungeonDive]

Glad you were able to make a decision with the information I provided and save some money!

[@MaceLupo]

This really needs the other monsters to flash it out.

[@TheDungeonDive]

I just made a substitution list so I can play with all of the official monsters, and a bunch of custom monsters. Works really well, with no additional cards needed. He is going to expand on it to include stuff for the official expansions. It's pretty new, so I wouldn't expect him to have everything ready yet.

[@MaceLupo]

@@TheDungeonDive Yeah there is always a way. I might do something similar until the new stuff is released.