The best place to be a woman?

[@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600]

People insulting iceland as mediocre when iceland is one of the most peaceful and richest countries in the world.... They are doing something right, thank you, go fix your own countries if you dont like it

[@mychannel-rt2gn]

Nobody ever called iceland mediocre...

[@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600]

@@mychannel-rt2gn the comments beg to differ. Just alot of intolerance

[@lockandloadlikehell]

@@mychannel-rt2gn meh

[@MollarCZ]

it is rather denial of one sided blind claim that Iceland is perfect.

[@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600]

@@MollarCZ it is rather denial to pretend that I said Iceland is perfect

[@kimwarburton8490]

that dad is correct. nearly every job interview ive had since i was 22 asked me if i intended to have a child in next 5 years. The 'norms' we're blind to -.-

[@kimwarburton8490]

@@AdityaDeo-cg6eu typically in the western world babies do not goto work with us. Typically 'day care' of some type is used. Most mums return to work once the child attends 'fulltime' school hours, typically aged 5yrs old. The only interferance would be the same as any other household member i.e. accidents and illhealth. I can only speak from my experience n culture

[@AdityaDeo-cg6eu]

@You don't have to know my name something you want to say ?

[@latenightthinker4737]

I mean it is kinda relevant to the whole thing cause it means they're considering whether you're valuable enough to continue employing, covering, paying, etc. should you become a mother.

[@kimwarburton8490]

@@latenightthinker4737 i think paternal leave changes things. Why is a child 100% a female's responsibility? are men not equal to the task? Often men make the better parent and we've had way too many children, myself included suffer from the lack of an effective father-figure in their lives, be it through separation or work being deemed a higher priority by society. Children are the future. their mental and character development needs what men bring to the table. Keeping men away from their children is detrimental for everyone. This subtle form of sexism is damaging to everyone.

[@latenightthinker4737]

@@kimwarburton8490 Men are of course equal to the task but I think it's obvious that there's something about pregnancy that makes this whole parental thing a different ball game at least during that. So it's clear to me why it's currently more of serious question towards women rather than men. but I agree, they should also ask men if they plan on being a father in the near future because society and the government look like they might finally acknowledge the importance and rights of fathers.

[@user-mi5xq8zj7u]

I genuinely don't understand why this topic riles people up so much, particularly young men. Honestly, it makes me sad.

[@smilingmushroom]

Idk, perhaps they worry about running out of job vacancies?

[@chrslb]

Because the pay gap is a myth and women enjoy a ton of advatages like *much* lower incarceration rate, lower suicide rate, better life expectancy, no draft, better support overall from society, yet somehow men still have the privilege? It's women that are privileged, extremely so

[@matth7142]

@@chrslb ok misogynist

[@TheGamingAlong]

I don't believe in the 'employee score'. The quality of an employee is subjective.

[@chrslb]

@@matth7142I hope I'm not a mysoginist. All the facts I cited are true though. All genders should be equal but women just happen to have all the benefits at the moment

[@ufosrus]

Gee, those Icelandic babies are pretty chubby! Very healthy looking children. It's a great idea to allow dads to spend more time with their kids from infancy. I would think that it will help them bond even more with their children.

[@leslieangela9114]

Love !! I won't ever marry someone who doesn't want to contribute or take responsibility for our kids.

[@leslieangela9114]

And that includes being involved from day 1

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

@Royal Satan Lol what? As a man I'd expect to have an equal share in raising my child with its mother. If you think the mother should do most or all of the work, you probably shouldn't have kids.

[@music0dance0rihanna]

@Royal Satan Ahaha, a woman expect the father of her child to contribute to their upbringing, and call her entitled? How entitled is it to expect a woman to raise your child by herself? Though I realize your name is Royal Satan, so probably just a troll, have fun waisting time.

[@HAngeli]

they are so cute * - *

[@biancat7761]

Dear angry men in the comments. Wouldn't you want PAID leave to spend time with your amazing babies? Wouldn't you want your partner in life to be able to make more money and contribute more to the house hold? Where is the downside?

[@Books-and-coffee0]

Best comment I've seen, how can a man who truly supports and loves his wife complain about her being paid more. Shouldn't they be proud and glad for her?

[@AnnnnnnnnnnnLeona]

@Anil Ravi „paid more“ as in more than she is paid now, not necessarily more than him.

[@athenstar10]

Because they are children themselves, immature asf🤣🤣🤣 These are guys that don't deserve to have their own kids.

[@biancat7761]

@@AnnnnnnnnnnnLeona even if it means she makes more than her male partner? It means more $ for the family? Everyone wins. Zero downside. So confused by the anger in the comments...

[@prathikjain8950]

@@athenstar10 shut up.

[@bellabroughton1214]

extraordinary how ideas like teaching kids to be both caring and assertive and giving men good paid paternity leave have somehow hurt so many people's feelings in these comments

[@mrpythagoras7079]

Only ones hurt are the retardad feminists. The "pay gap" is a total farce. You work less, you get paid less, period.

[@bellabroughton1214]

@@mrpythagoras7079 yet it's intriguing that you were the only one who felt it necessary to reply...

[@mrpythagoras7079]

@@bellabroughton1214 Indeed. I think it's about time I get a job..

[@connor9423]

Personally I think even the shown example of nuclear plant was a bit telling. The "unskilled" workers outside were shown doing hard manual labour, with heavy objects, versus the unskilled labourers insides were tinkering with smaller items. Perhaps there jobs really are more similar, but from this video it was easy to see why the former would be paid more for increased physical risk and endurance. I think implementing paternity leave would help "level the playing field", since the forced implementation of maternity leave has certainly made companies view female candidates as more of a financial risk. However, forcing up costs on companies across the board is going to be met with things like cutting wages and hiring less workers. It will be interesting to see what the results of these school programs are. It is a well known fact that the biggest contributing factor in the gender wage gap is the different career choices made by men and women. Where women traditionally go for more empathetic people oriented jobs like nursing, teaching, etc, and men tend to work more with things (and more with dangerous things), like construction, computers, etc. I'm interested to see the results of their experiments and whether or not it has a statistically significant affect on career choices. There have already been several studies conducted on monkeys that show they make these same "gendered stereotyped choices" in play and exploration when left to their own devices. These same results are also seen in >1 year old human babies. Surely no one would argue that these subjects have been "socialized" by gender norms presented in society.

[@spyrolover8252]

bella broughton pointing something out means your feelings are hurt 🤣🤣🤣

[@lice7897]

The men out here truly saying that we should'nt be equal because "who will look after the child as it grows". Um? why it can't be the father?

[@1wun1]

Because of hypergamy

[@gammarayneutrino8413]

@James Humanity hasn't even existed for a million years. Only ~200000 years. And in the past before farming was invented children were raised communally, which means for ~190000 years both men and women took part in the raising of children. I don't know what happenned after farming. It might be a more modern trend for only women to raise children.

[@livelovelife32]

@Jameshmm are you rich? Your job must really pay if you feel you are in that kind of financial position. In this kind of financial environment it's difficult for most families to afford the woman staying home even when she actually wants to. I find the debate men have on this topic really interesting. I have heard men call housewives leeches and criticise women who work the very next day. Perhaps the male gender should have a meeting and pick a struggle? On that note I will say that if a woman CHOOSES to stay home that society (and this includes a healthy amt of the male population) need to not shame her for it. Similarly a woman whom works should not be shamed for it. What should be criticised of both genders is lack of work-life balance.

[@paulitamme]

@James ... So the wife doesn't have a say in this? What if it isn't about income, but about feeling accomplished?

[@anitamihholap5926]

@James well, if men spent time raising babies since infancy, they'd know as much about them. It's not some biological trait, it's about experience.

[@aadrath1236]

So glad she emphasized on "it's not that there are a couple of evil men.."

[@brinawidmer]

well in some countries there are 🙈

[@tromboner6061]

@@brinawidmer ok

[@anthonycosta128]

There are also evil women

[@brinawidmer]

not just for wealthy countries but for all countries: womens rights are humanrights - gender equality is important in the entire world.

[@TheGamingAlong]

Tell that to some african countries which doesn't even have a proper toilet.

[@brinawidmer]

@@TheGamingAlong still, women in those countries deserve to be treated as equals by men.

[@roto9991]

@@brinawidmer nope

[@Marcos-hf4cz]

@@brinawidmer So by treated as equal you mean men being taugh to be femenine, women to be masculine and denying any difference between the sexes

[@skmaurya8221]

@@roto9991 wow idiot, let's clap for you, hey give this Ro To a OSCAR

[@Theartcat123]

People (mainly men) are soooo triggered! It's actually funny to read/skim through this comment section, just embrace equality!

[@bogdanstasyuk1758]

show me one example you know where for the same job (same hours, same productivity, same position, same qualifications) a women gets less than a man? ( first world countrys only please), plus no one takes in consideration the biological approach between man and women (physical and physiological)

[@davidcooks2379]

@@bogdanstasyuk1758 bbc presenters. Until a couple of years ago the information about their salaries wasn't published. The first time when it was published it caused an explosion. Anchors of the same program earned salaries differing by factor x2

[@thedudefromrobloxx]

@@bogdanstasyuk1758 dude u can literally google it urself and come yp with so many examples

[@davidmiranda4745]

@@CoolGuy_77777 grandpa, learn to use the computer yourself. Don't be lazy old child

[@va3413]

@@CoolGuy_77777 how is it in ignorant land? Clearly you're the one who says it doesn't exist so the burden of proof is on you. It is well known that there is wage gap and you would know this unless you choose to be ignorant. Please show peer reviewed studies that show there is NO wage gap. Burden of proof is on you.

[@moode94]

the way children being taught is rather interesting, the fact that fathers are encouraged to spend more time with their children during their infancy would help the child to learn an ideal equity and a balanced attention that a child must get from their parents

[@npriya626]

As an Indian, am so proud of Iceland. It takes great minds to take such steps..

[@titanking5956]

This is true gender equality. But dont get brainwashed by the American media. America has fallen.

[@mychannel-rt2gn]

@@titanking5956 nobody is talking about America. Don’t be so obsessed with them

[@Cerebrum_Nebula]

@@titanking5956 no we haven't, it's the house that's trying to turn our country into a christofascist dictatorship, don't judge us 300 million americans based on 100,000 of those pesky conservative tards.

[@damonblade3195]

I want to raise my children in this country. This is amazing.

[@eduardochavacano]

then keep your culture in where you hail from. Especially if you are from a society where 92% of the population are drama queens with pugged noses.

[@smithasreejith8855]

@@eduardochavacano who are you? Who asked?

[@Ikajo]

Most of the Nordic countries have similar laws regarding parental leave. I think Sweden recently, as in during the last two years, increased the amount of time alloted to the fathers. And some people were very unhappy with this idea but apparently parents can't share equally the nearly two year parental leave otherwise.

[@A.D.540]

Long us you can handle the cold lol

[@lotuseater7247]

or better, push for it in your own country

[@eliasaceves2504]

I feel like the Iceland model is very pragmatic. The score system takes into account many variables that determine wages. If a women gets a lower score, she's paid less. Male gets a lower score, he's paid less. If they have equal scores, they are paid the same. This is very quantitative and logical. What objections are there to this except the fact that some people just don't wanna pay women more?

[@weirdhumanbeing9043]

I think they can sue them I'm not sure I don't really know much about laws in my country (yeah we are a country) since I'm only 12

[@johans7775]

I agree with you. However, I would like to know how they come up with the scores that value each job and if they can guarantee that the scores are not affected by someones bias.

[@davidcooks2379]

My objection is that this distorts the market. If some jobs are more valuable to the market but have lower scores in their system, then people will not want to do these jobs. The market would usually correct itself from the scarcity by increasing wages for those jobs, while this system is inherently inflexible so will not correct itself

[@csillaomacht9421]

@@davidcooks2379 I think they said that companies with more than 25 employees obliged to do this kind of evaluation. And if two workers have the same score within the company then the company has to pay the same for both workers. With same score someone else could earn more at another company. That was my understanding.

[@davidcooks2379]

@@csillaomacht9421 ok, so this will be advantageous for small companies, but potentially disadvantageous for composites with 26+ employees

[@alastairhewitt380]

What I love about the Scandinavian system is that they recognise that man have and are constrained by their gender as well and they work to counteract those constraints. In the US I feel like the view is that gender is something that women exclusively experience. Women in our society, while lacking hard power, hold an incredible amount of soft power and framing gender as something that only belongs to one group of people creates division and sets egalitarian progress backwards, especially when the group with soft power is seeking hard power as well.

[@ellep.6204]

Awesome point

[@livelovelife32]

What an interesting point! I've never heard of that one and I quite agree. A male friend of mine doesn't want to marry because laws favour women so strongly in marriage.

[@lockandloadlikehell]

Yes, get those females out in those fields, forests, farms, and construction sites and farms where even the female owners that require big strong males to do what their big, strong females can't, won't hire females to fill those positions. And I know all those 5'4" 150 pounders with 30% bodyfat will be LINING UP to work as bouncers and doormen. And infantry units. We know from experience that will yield stellar results.

[@lotuseater7247]

@@lockandloadlikehell Women do work in construction and agriculture though. And in the near future tech will do a lot of the hard work so how will you then defend unequal pay? Obviously certain roles are generally more equipped to men or women but this is increasingly narrowed.

[@farkasabel]

Iceland has an app to check if the dating partner is not too close relative.

[@world-traveler880]

Alabama needs to get it too. They seem to be having trouble.

[@timhua6936]

@@world-traveler880 SWEET HOME ALABAMA

[@lovesimpleton8177]

many people love dating relatives.. many royal families not allowed to marry non relatives

[@3DegreesNorth638]

Must be why they have so many Down syndrome babies...

[@jamestalbot1647]

And the middle- East

[@jeanclaudejunior]

The world needs to learn from Iceland about Gender Equality and its policies

[@moisesbeyond]

and yet the more equality in a country less families and less children exist....

[@Some1Philosophy]

​@@moisesbeyond Why?

[@gabrielasalazar2228]

If I were from a country like that I would want children.

[@tromboner6061]

Strangely, scandinavian countries have lowest birth rate in the world

[@creamy0bear]

smh so many commenters who don't understand even remotely what they're arguing about. YES, "equal pay for equal work" includes the actual work conditions, like working outdoors/doing hard labor/working under difficult weather conditions. we're talking about women working the exact SAME jobs as men, doing the same work, but still being paid less.

[@q-_-p.d-_-b]

The reason employers pay men more than women for the same work is this... this is an actual study btw.... There's a company where every employee does exactly the same job, same hours, same pay, etc. The boss gathered up all the employees and gave them two choices, leave work early or stay and work overtime. All the women choose to leave early, and all the men choose to stay overtime. Surprise, surprise. And that is your answer.

[@claire98]

@@q-_-p.d-_-b Not surprising, considering (at least in US, but I'm suspecting that in many other developed countries also) paying less for the same job based on gender is straight-up illegal.

[@sarkarshreekanya5515]

@@q-_-p.d-_-b The reason why the women chose to leave early is because working women have to work both at the workplace and at home. On the other hand, most men when they return home, don't have to work anymore, they're tired after working for so long, that they spend rest of the night by doing stuff, like for example watching TV. The men chose to work overtime is because they didn’t have to do chores at home when they'd return, but for women, the case is different . If the roles were swapped, I'm sure the men would choose to leave early too.

[@Marcos-hf4cz]

Er no, that is proven to be wrong

[@MrAlumrocky]

@@sarkarshreekanya5515 your statement is not correct, it's just based off generalisations. At my workplace most of the men live at their own place many without a partner. And they still do overtime.

[@MK-ko9lz]

What a great movement! I hope this movement and education are being adopted in other countries as well. Because women and men are equal, both are human!

[@giuhiu851]

M K highly doubt that

[@WeatherMondacicci]

Yes, I think this is the future and men like the one above me either will have to adapt or get left behind.

[@Marcos-hf4cz]

Yes we Are humans but men and women are different physicologically and physically, we Are simply different, that is a fact

[@Marcos-hf4cz]

@@WeatherMondacicci Oh really? Since I Know most men refuse to date feminists,and feminists are starting to fret about It, also do you really believe that men and women are equal in a physical and physicological way?

[@KD400_]

​@@AliciaGonzalez-pk3mwnice that a woman is against this bs

[@juno2768]

People should be paid the same as long as they do the same job and deliver the same output, (regardless of their gender). *Some* people in the comments section are arguing while not even talking about the same thing...😅 Is this an acceptable comment that won't get too much hate?🤔

[@aadityabhetuwal5990]

Well capitalism doesn’t work like that, you gotta sell your skills and things you can do(even if you cannot) And in overall become a better negotiator.

[@fatemakhanpurwala1473]

I guess hate is a necessity to spread since we lack love

[@Marcos-hf4cz]

Err in fact every first world country pays the same to women for the same hours

[@juno2768]

@@Marcos-hf4cz That's probably mostly true for jobs with set or low wages. When it comes to higher paid jobs, negotiation usually decides how much you're paid so there can be disparity even between two people with the seemingly same skills, background, etc.

[@Marcos-hf4cz]

@@juno2768 Eeeer no, its not legal to pay someone less money based on gender

[@jeanclaudejunior]

I love Iceland so much because of lots of things: Vikings (Especially their Discovery of America before Columbus), Gender Equality, peace, renewables and no Tipping culture.

[@ang5035]

vikings did not discover America - there were millions of people living there for a while... If you mean vikings were the first europeans to arrive at America, then yes, you are correct.

[@jeanclaudejunior]

@@ang5035 I meant to say that Vikings were the first Europeans to discover America before Columbus did

[@Marcos-hf4cz]

Vikings werent all about gender equality

[@dumbperson6159]

I'm packing my bags yall

[@Builder_Boy]

Yes the workers who work outside make more money than the workers who work inside. Why is that a problem? That isn't discrimination its fair pay. Working outside is harder, you have to deal with weather. If the women want to work outside they are free to do so as well.

[@misosoppa3279]

You clearly don't have a job in tech

[@smmm5559]

@@misosoppa3279 you clearly don't understand what he's talking about you ideat

[@world-traveler880]

Exactly. You get equal pay for equal work. Working inside and working outside are different types of jobs with different pay.

[@clickclackpow2730]

Carl Rei Saito that was an interesting comment. What made you say that?

[@burek4321]

There is that and also woman work less. Like in my company we have young non-married woman working and you can clearly see they work less. Not because they are sick or something, but because they have to constantly go on holidays like bali, egypt, spain... There is a lot of factors in wage gap, but the media sees just one thing and that is money!

[@priyagurav8424]

To all the blabbering misogynists in the comments section... check out at 4:05 Happy now?! Men are getting more for the similar jobs

[@philippevail320]

“Similar” is not “same”. That seems be one of the issues here.

[@the-brick-train]

Outdoor workers get paid more because who wants to work outdoors!!

[@energyeternal]

exactly. i would gladly take a less strenouous indoor job for the same pay.

[@leifharmsen]

I do!

[@frankguan5044]

You know that's from Jordan Peterson without guessing.

[@ryanrodrigues6127]

@@declanharp9633 rightly said.

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

The pay of any job depends on the skill level involved, how needed the skill is, how rare it is, and how many people will benefit from it. Whether it's indoors or outdoors is irrelevant. Who is paid more, a surgeon or a bricklayer?

[@tanveechoudhary417]

The comment section just shows how “equal” the entire world is 🙄

[@heracrossz7701]

?

[@RPDBY]

Shouldn't you compare women working outside to men working outside?

[@liamleak1272]

But that would produce accurate results and you know how liberals feel about those

[@RPDBY]

@@liamleak1272 I assume you mean leftist, not liberals..?

[@kungydude9690]

@@liamleak1272 lmfao that made me laugh. Yo whats the difference between a knife and a liberal?

[@metolse475]

What difference would that make? It would show that women made the more logical choice to get a more comfortable job inside. You see, a programmer or an engineer earns more than a builder for many reasons. It's embarassing for us men, why the fuck are we going for shitty, low paying jobs outside doing labour?

[@renegade595]

@@metolse475 ??? Outside jobs tend to be more paying becuase of the dangers and chance of death. Those jobs mainly being construction and factory. Yes they may be shitty but dafuq do you mean by low paying?

[@Xentagia]

The pay gap is NOT between men and women, it is between mothers and non mothers. Taking several months out to have a baby means the mothers career doesn't advance as a non mothers career would. Iceland and I think Kenya have a greater equality because they have a better paternity leave system, meaning both parents can share the responsibility and both their careers suffer less.

[@pfmcoop]

Rwanda, not Kenya

[@briankinyanjui2424]

Uliskia wapi ati Kenya? Translation: Who told you about Kenya?

[@qwertyuiop2161]

anyone who genuinely believes there is a significant paygap needs to educate themselves on why this 'gap' exists. it exists almost solely due to men (on average) taking higher paying jobs, working more hours, less flexible hours.

[@taehyungoppa7208]

Im so glad little girls are being encourgaed that they are enough and that they are so capable. Queens ✨💅

[@tromboner6061]

time stamp?

[@magorose7382]

I’m curious if keeping them separate is actually helping. You would think keeping them all in the same class teaching them the same exact things would be more beneficial. Very interesting.

[@cw6842]

Its about teaching skills that go against what have already been ingrained unconsciously by their parents at birth. Or "unlearning". If all children are raised in a household that is 100% equal then sure, teach them the same.

[@catherinet6024]

I believe it does. I studied in a girls school for 12 years. Girls from girls schools tend to be more assertive, independent, empowered, and aggressive. When I went to a coed college, I had to “tone-down” my “strong personality”. Apparently being a girl meant that I’m suppose let the men dominate the conversations during group discussions. Sometimes I felt I had to suppress a part of myself to fit in with other girls who were more docile. I’m doing well professionally and I thank my girls school upbringing. One benefit is that most girls from girls schools tend to succeed professionally since we’re more assertive and decisive than other women. Around 60% from my graduating class work in managerial positions.

[@wb8695]

@@catherinet6024 I wholeheartedly believe in your experience. I too have studied in an all girl's school. While I think co-ed has its time and benefits, but especially in the earlier year it's important to give the girls a chance to discover their own identity without comparing and competing for boys. I was shocked when I learned that in supposedly advanced countries like the US, girls are expected NOT to excel in math and science as these fields are seen as more masculine (mind you I grew up in Saudi which is terrible for women on so many levels). Learning in an all girls school, science subjects were simply considered (harder) in general for all students regardless of gender.

[@keirarogan454]

@@catherinet6024 Obviously it's different from everyone, but I've always been in a co-ed environment and I have friends who initially went to an all-girls college and I would say that I am probably more or similarly confident and assertive. In fact, in discussions I've had with said friends they actually said they feel more insecure and uncertain around men because they don't have the experience. Maybe it's a cultural/generational/education system difference? Was your all girls school private? Because that is another factor: students from public education tend to have less confidence and assertiveness than privately educated students, on average.

[@catherinet6024]

Keira Rogan Keira Rogan I went to a Catholic girls school in Manila. Even public school girls here are assertive and that might be a cultural thing since women are highly valued in Philippine society. Growing up in a country that ranks high on gender equality and gender parity was amazing (The Philippines ranks 8th in the world and is the only Asian country in the top 10). In fact, I never felt being a woman was a disadvantage until I studied college abroad in the US. American men seem to have a hard time taking me seriously in business, a 5’1” skinny Asian woman. The sexism and heightism I’ve experienced in the American workplace left me frustrated so I went back to Manila where I was able to quickly rise up the corporate ladder.

[@Elysian_s]

This model looks very promising, other countries should also try to implement it!

[@tr2494]

all the people here are going about talking that unequal wages makes sense since men are working outside in harsh conditions , and women inside in warm environment , but that's just an example of a work that has been shown in the video there are numerous other jobs , where there are the same environmental conditions but a difference in wages . and ONE IMPORTANT THING TO ADD HARSH CONDITIONS DOESNT DETERMINE THE PAY , AS YOU SEE , IN DEFENCE SERVICES , MEN OF LOWER RANKS , WHO ARE PUT FRONT DURING WAR , THEY HAVE LESS PAY , WHERE AS THE OFFICERS WHO PLAN FROM A SAFER PLACE AND GIVE ORDERS ARE PAID MORE BECAUSE OF THEIR RANK , HARSH CONDITIONS AND RISKS OF DYING ARE MORE FOR THE LOWER RANK MEN BUT STILL THE WAGE SYSYTEM IS NOT QUESTIONED , ITS NOT THE CONDITIONS BUT THE EXECUTION THAT MAKES THE DIFFERNCE.@james von maxwell

[@Daniel-ht4wr]

That's great for Iceland, and I wish them the best of luck. But Iceland is a very rich and secular country with one of the smallest gender pay gaps on earth. Contrasted with other poorer far more religious countries which have far worse gender inequality. I don't think the solutions here will work for other countries which are in more desperate need of reform.

[@NathansHVAC]

But the BBC says Iceland is a Utopia.

[@Daniel-ht4wr]

@@smmm5559 the gender pay gap is not a myth, i had to write a paper on it for HR an I can assure you any serious academic recognises it as a fact because there is volumes of data proving it's existence. It's a global phenomenon with some countries like South Korea having the largest of any OECD country and countries like Iceland having the narrowest gap.

[@smmm5559]

here's a real economist u ideat

[@smmm5559]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZemc6arnLOSnZI

[@AngelaMerici12]

Really good comment but saying this things in a KZbin comment is like giving pearls to pigs.

[@goldenwings9902]

Amazing. Hope this happens in my country as well.

[@na-zt4hj]

I hope u are not a feminist

[@goldenwings9902]

@@na-zt4hj I am a feminist. But that doesn't mean I am a man hater. True feminists work for the upliftment of suffering and exploited women.

[@jackjohnson6230]

@@goldenwings9902 yeah at the expense of men feminist are hypocrites

[@mairathorn3331]

way to go Iceland! don't give up, keep it going...show this world that equality is not that far & difficult.

[@domingosalafrenza4761]

The best place to be a woman is having white skin.

[@awts..7954]

It's a nordic country Not every country is as diverse as the us

[@Nico2000]

Funny how "The Economist" doesn't seem to understand the economy

[@jorgegomez524]

Syntox they understand enough. who pays their salaries.

[@geoffmcarthy7314]

Jorge Gomez he whom can't be named ...

[@frankgarrett9500]

They never did.

[@Klaratchi]

Iceland's GDP per capita is really high. 70,056.87 USD per capita. In comparision, the US is 59,531.66 USD, and Germany is 44,469.91 USD. How do you explain that? Seems like their economy is doing just fine.

[@somyan8540]

They can afford it, and is better off in a longer run.

[@nicolascortesbe]

So many men with their ego harmed in the comment section I'm a straight man and I totally support gender equality!

[@BagoGarde]

because you don't have any critical thinking , you don't even try to consider the arguments brought forward by the other side, you hate and call offended.

[@nicolascortesbe]

@@BagoGarde quite the opposite, I don't simply stick to what society taught me about gender roles, A person should be paid a certain amount according to her/his job and to how well she/he does it, not simply according to gender, as has been the tradition and is what they want to change

[@cherrybomb6451]

Thank you for being a true man . They are almost extinct

[@theepicpeguin]

I think most men are for it (equality). Just not in the manner where the men are emasculated and taught feminine doctrine rather than just letting the women do what they want and not imposing any careers onto them only because its dominated by men and the "pay gap" is bothersome for the ladies. Its not much about hurt egos,either (well, at least not mine) but more so about how women are misinterpreting the information they are given in order to deem themselves as victims and their appeasement is higher pay for a less demanding job, thus making equality null for the male gender.

[@xavdest5481]

@@nicolascortesbe that's what they're saying. A person should be paid according to position and competency within the position. Not gender, and there should be nothing to try and even out averaged disparities in genders income. Except maybe scholarships for men to go into things they're under represented in that also pay well, and the same done for women.

[@siyabhargava8700]

Glad to watch that finally there are people out there who've been taking initiative to reduce or vanish this age-old gender inequality, and the best part is that they've been doing this at a grassroot level by teaching students👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@winonadaphne6445]

omg the taking risks part made me smile 1:55 that is DEFINITELY something i REALLY struggle with

[@mrandom4765]

One of the factors that makes it easier is that Iceland is a relatively small country and their culture isnt necessarily tied to the religious and cultural beliefs many SEA countries have

[@moisesbeyond]

small and full of white european people you forgot to mention

[@ASLUHLUHC3]

If they were going to actively fight gender stereotypes, they wouldn't be paying their (mostly female) indoor workers more to bring their wages up to the level of their (mostly male) outdoor workers. They'd be transferring half the women in the building to go work outdoors and half the outdoor guys to do the comfy indoor work

[@Earth2LalaLand]

To the arguments that say that outdoor workers should get paid more; the video states that the decision was made based on a point system. So, for example, considering the weather conditions the outdoor workers would get a point and considering say unconventional working hours (the cleaners would have to wait till everyone has left to finish cleaning) the indoor workers would get a point. So, at the end of the day they would both have a point each (therefore equal pay), but for different attributes of their work. Outdoor labour might be more physically intense, but, referring back to my hypothetical, at the end of the day they would go home in time for dinner and help their kids with their homework afterward. While that will not be the case for the indoor workers who get home after their kids are in bed. So, there's always an opportunity cost and it's a trade off. This is just my perspective and two cents. I'm not here to argue, just contribute to the discussion. Thanks for making it to the end of this comment! Cheers!

[@ctcamara]

Where do I sign up for immigration?

[@Mokkel73]

So, how is Iceland dealing with inequality in family court, suicide stats, homlessness stats...

[@worldgamingseries3155]

+ 90% of workers that die during work are men

[@jayc342009]

So long as the whaaamenz are okay then all is good right? Gynocentricm prevails...

[@myklagenfurt]

I live in Austria, a few years back I wanted to extent my wifes (and mother of my children) visa. The women at the immigration office wasn´t very happy that I didn’t meet all the requirements (only money counts in my country. You even can buy austrian citisenship). In the end, she told me that she doesn’t support my application because I need to meet all the requirements, it’s not that I am a young woman. I understood it this way; if I would be a young lady, she would understand that I can’t meet the requirements. But I am a men and thats why I have to meet all requirements. In my country, men have to respect womens right but in the same time face such things not only from women but also from men and the law. (Austrian law gives a lot of freedom to immigration officers, that’s why you have cases where Government workers fiances get permanent citizenship after one year and not only after 6 years like ordinary people).

[@nataliaostap]

The same way as with gender inequality.

[@blanca6434]

I'd actually like to know more about that as well. It's an aspect of gender equality that many countries neglect.

[@cookiedove659]

Why is comment section so toxic everyone is insulting every other person. How can a positive video have such a bad response.

[@indrinita]

Because misogynists hate the idea of women being seen as people.

[@awts..7954]

@@indrinita i don't even see any of them in this comment section

[@indrinita]

@@awts..7954 guess you're blind then

[@awts..7954]

@@indrinita bruh i am lol

[@Marcos-hf4cz]

@@indrinita Oh so now masculine traits are People traits? We Are complaining that men are being enmasculated,its not about women but about men, men are biologically different from women that's a fact, so basically they are denying their masculinity

[@guruprasadf07]

Wow! Raising a generation of soy boys and celebrating it too

[@v23v]

go Iceland! we need more place like that..

[@dianaa8125]

they sound so well spoken and articulate. Kudos

[@IO-hh3gw]

The best place to be a woman!? I'm pretty sure it's not on Earth.

[@juanpablovelez7656]

In Iceland there is no preference for women, not really, there is a better place to be a human being, where a grudge does not arise between people because of their gender or any other 'major' difference.

[@inacathrien1123]

It’s sad that we even have to think about this. There’s no “best place to be a man”

[@tamaliaalisjahbana9354]

Because every where is.

[@electric_sand]

Here is a rare sighting of someone with common sense and empathy.

[@electric_sand]

@@tamaliaalisjahbana9354 How's life with exemption from military drafts? How's life with lower suicide rates? How's life with affirmative action? How's life with family courts on your side? Must be terrible right? With the current culture of victimhood, must be hard for you to see clearly.

[@tamaliaalisjahbana9354]

@@electric_sand Poor Eigen you need to move to my country. There if you divorce you get the children - but only if you want them, you do not have to pay any alimony, you can have up to 4 wives if you want and when your parents die you get to inherit 1/3 more than any of your sisters. There is no draft. That what you want?

[@electric_sand]

@@tamaliaalisjahbana9354 There might be unique challenges facing individuals in your country, but I wanted to point out how ridiculous it was for you to say "because everywhere is"... For one person claiming unfair treatment somewhere, there's another person elsewhere claiming an unfair advantage... But the poor situation is that, with human nature, balance is hardly ever reached, any side that gains an advantage tries to climb over the other. You have ministries for women, policies geared towards women in many places, companies promoting events for women, the demonization of masculinity etc....the guy who doesn't have 4 wives, who is not going to inherit 1/3 more than anybody, who is not claiming or dropping children is certainly going to have a different view from yours....hence the need for balance.

[@richardlyon7978]

Dear “Economist”. Economics 101: 1. If it were true that women earn less than men *for the same work*, then Icelandic employers would replace men with women in those jobs to lower costs. 2. Icelandic employers verifiably do not replace men by women to lower costs, even if by not doing so they become insolvent. 3. Therefore it is not true that women earn less than men *for the same work*. There is no gender pay gap in like-for-like work - a fact which you yourselves reported less than 12 months ago in your newspaper. I remember the days, before it was captured by feminist political lobbyists, when The Economist could be relied upon for well-researched, well reasoned journalism.

[@vlado2701]

Magic place for magic life ! I'm sure. Touching video ! Thank You dear The Economist !

[@TheRageng]

Great stuff! Iceland is truly a nice land.

[@cheungsimsiu7824]

ADMTP👡👠👟👑👒👜👗👝👛💳🎒💄

[@هادیاحمدی-ي7ط]

Instead of teaching children to have respect for the other gender and stay in the "middle", you teach boys to be like girls and girls to be like boys? Isn't that harmful in some sense too?

[@sunndepp]

Great work by Iceland ! 🙂

[@philippevail320]

“Similar” is not “same”. Also why are they separating the kids by gender? Not all kids are raised the same by their parents. Not all girls are empathetic and not all boys take charge. I don’t like generalizations like these.

[@claire98]

Right? This bothered me as well.

[@nasranoor1720]

They’re going to be shocked when they travel to other countries when they’re older i am raising my kids there

[@anastasia10017]

the real problem is that men think women either dont have any financial responsibilities in life or have fathers and husbands who support them. But women are no longer supported by husbands and women have to pay the same amount as men to have a car, to have somewhere to live but are paid less. A woman's dental care costs the same as a man's. A landlord or a dentist does not give a woman a discount because she is a woman. In addition, women have to spend more money than men .. not only on makeup and hairdressers but also for precautionary safety measures like taking a taxi home late at night. I am not so sure that the erasure of masculine and feminine is good. A neutral world seems unexciting and bland to me. But companies need to realize that women are working to pay their bills and have the same very real financial obligations as men do.

[@badgalirri]

Yeah take out abrahamitic religions and maybe we have a starting point!

[@lillytaylor8262]

The best place to be a woman is silicon valley. Since few of us want to be engineers, there's a 2:1 ratio of men to women here. All my girlfriends are dating guys that are twice as attractive and twice as educated as themselves. You can have you pick here!

[@golatificon]

4:50 you are saying that employees who work outside in cold Icelandic temperatures doing hard labour and making plant more profitable should be paid the same as staff inside in warm doing medium hard labour almost injury free (compared to outside work)?

[@davidcooks2379]

@Azar Huseynli well, the question is, would you then switch from working in construction to working as a cleaner. They are trying to distort the market so that women feel more rewarded for what they do, but as a side effect, more men could switch to traditional female jobs. If this works, then stereotypes will be broken. If it doesn't work, then at least women are rewarded properly. If a guy doesn't want to do cleaning while working inside and being paid the same as if he was doing hard work outside, then he will be punished for his pride, and that's fair

[@aadityabhetuwal5990]

People talk about hate comments and people trolling like something new, It was always there, social media wasn’t popular enough for people to notice.

[@henrymieure7010]

Your doing great, Iceland

[@solar2607]

Every country should take this approach.

[@zzulm]

The US doesn't have parental leave for everyone.

[@practicalgrowthacademy3189]

I love this! ❤️

[@alexandremartins7103]

Thank you, Iceland. You're teaching the world how the world should be👏👏👏

[@gamezwithjedi]

The reason why the workers outside and inside were paid different is because the outside workers are doing more physical and exhausting work while the inside workers are doing less physically demanding jobs. Its not about “unconscious bias” its about the work you are willing to do and how long you are willing to do it.

[@andreylucass]

So I just got informed by email that my comment here in this video was removed by KZbin. I don't even remember what it was.

[@gamerthorpro7776]

Awesome content. Congratulations and thanks for sharing (with script!!! for non English speakers)

[@_aidid]

Cute babies Great idea Beautiful country

[@SUCCESSPASS]

This is incredible 👏

[@anthonycosta128]

But I actually did not understand why they also do not teach boys to take risks in Iceland? What's the point here? Equality means teaching them the same thing

[@alkasoli4002]

I am a humanist not feminist

[@rusticbookstore4149]

How's that different?

[@Zaete0chan]

Best Iceland ad I've ever seen I want to move there now!!

[@ahyarhartanto1802]

I agree on anything in this video except for this one 05:20 , if it comes to unskilled jobs, we must get paid according to the power we use to work, not because we give more value traditionally male dominated jobs, we can't pay the same price for cleaning service jobs and piping and fitting jobs, that's unfair, the risk and the power used in both jobs are different.

[@Marsipaanimies91]

Why is there so many dislikes on this video? Is it not true that Iceland is the best place for a woman?

[@senshai1267]

I love Iceland. One of the happiest places on earth . I don't know what kinda research is conducted on these kids . Why isn't paternity leave given to fathers in other countries..it is just ridiculous . But , workers outside regardless of gender , needs more money in compensation for their risk?. That's understandable...

[@MollarCZ]

Why companies don't employ just women if they are at least 6% cheaper than men then?

[@kevins6732]

Okay we got plenty of problems with the idea that there is a pay gap between men and women in modern western countries. Lets start with the example used in the video where it was about the pay given to unskilled workers. The difference as they pointed out is that the men were working outside whilst the women were working inside. What we see is that there is an element of risk and uncomfort for the men. For the women that is simply not the case. They get paid what they need to get paid in order to do that job. At my workplace we are all salesmen. If I am a larger asset to the company then you bet your ass that im going to get paid more otherwise im leaving. Same goes with the risks applied to the job, if I have to work under greater risk then I better get paid more as well. When it comes to maternity leave we stumble upon yet another problem. Couples usually consists of one younger woman and one older man. The man due to his age is more likely to earn more. So when a kid comes into the picture, who will continue working, the one earning more or the one earning less? See it as you may but families act accordingly to logic in these cases. Untop of that women are also more prone to staying at home with sick kids. These kids get sick alot in their younger years and as the mother is away from work she still gets compensation, and rightly so. But she also becomes an economic liability to the company. This creates a problem for women and the companies. Women are less likely to get the same job as a man if they are in childbearing age. This is unjust and unfair because they get judged by factors they cant control, it becomes discrimination. But on the other hand the companies dont act like a large organism whose purpose is to do harm. A company consists of individuals who wants to earn money just like everyone else and it becomes a problem for them when women are prone to being a liability. So as you may understand the problem is complex and it isnt so easily fixed that you can simple change the wages. I dont know how we are going to fix this but something needs to be done. From my perspective whatever we do some will lose.

[@TomHasVideo]

They already talked about giving parental leave to men.

[@AngelaMerici12]

Seriously, it's like they watch but don't listen, and I think the video explained very well in such a short time.

[@girlwriteswhat]

@@TomHasVideo They do that in Sweden. When they introduced it, they found that men typically stayed home the first couple weeks, then transferred the rest of their weeks to their wives. They were like, "oh no, we just made things worse, by effectively doubling the amount of time women are taking off work after a baby!" So then they increased the "use it or lose it", nontransferable portion of paternity leave, and found that even having done that, too many men aren't using their full allotment. Men tend to feel that too much time away from work will damage their careers. And they're right--the paternity leave penalty (in terms of pay increases and career advancement) is bigger than the maternity leave penalty (at least currently). But back to the original point--the backfiring of paternity leave in Sweden. No one was forcing those men to transfer their weeks to their wives, and no one was forcing those women to accept and use the transferred weeks. This is not a merely economic conundrum. Having had three kids, I can tell you, oxytocin is a powerful drug, and women's bodies are flooded with it during and after birth and the entire time they breastfeed. I couldn't stand being away from them for more than an hour or two for a LONG time. The first time my oldest slept through the night, I woke up in a panic, terrified he was dead. The first time I left the house without him for less than an hour (he was a few weeks old and in perfectly good hands), I had a passing thought about him and leaked so much breastmilk it soaked my entire front to mid-thigh. Having been through it three times, I can tell you that their father, once things had settled down at home and I was fully on the mend, he had an itch to be economically productive. Not only did he work overtime whenever it was available, but he all of a sudden decided he wanted to take up fishing. He bought a license and a cheap rod, and would spend a few hours on his days off dropping herring off the dock in town. There's nothing like an 80lb (about $1000 worth of) halibut in the freezer to take the sharp edges off the grocery budget. Now sure, this is anecdotal evidence, but it appears to be borne out on a larger scale in the problems even Sweden is having when it comes to convincing moms to go back to work and dads to stay home with the kids. If moms feel an itch to be in close proximity to their kids until they're of a certain age, while dads feel an itch to increase their economic productivity when kids arrive, then we have a much deeper problem than "who earns more is probably going to return to work and who earns less is probably going to stay home." Because no amount of money would have made me happy to return to work until my kids were at least 2 1/2. I'd have done it if I had to, but I would have been miserable. Yet my kids' father happily went back to work a week after they were born, and despite him being a great, cuddly, playful dad who enjoyed being with them even when they were too tiny to do the stereotypical dad/child things like play catch, he felt compelled toward greater productivity outside the home. Any evolutionary psychologist would be willing to entertain the notion that these compulsions may be at least partly a legacy of survival and sexual selection pressures that have existed since before we were even human. And if they are, then dealing with that is going to be a lot harder than artificially equalizing pay and giving dads paid parental leave.

[@TomHasVideo]

​@@girlwriteswhat Sexual selection is a very much overrated factor in human evolution. Overwhelmingly natural selection has occurred in surviving childhood. Anyway it seems like you just view social policy through a lens of it being an attempt to do feminism or something and making people arbitrarily more equal. None of what you're saying sounds like a problem, people are given parental leave and they are using some amount of it. I don't know why you made me read that bit about you completely spilling your own breast milk all over yourself.

[@girlwriteswhat]

@@TomHasVideo First off, I didn't "make" you read anything. But if you want to know why I wrote it, it's to demonstrate how incredibly powerful women's hormones are when it comes to postnatal situations. As well, I believe I mentioned not just sexual but also survival selection. I would suggest that infants who remain in immediate proximity to the parent who's serving the drinks would see a positive impact on survival, particularly in the age of big game and endurance hunting that existed until the end of the pleistocene. If you want to come at things from a different angle, what's one huge thing humans and the other great apes do not have in common? Fatherhood. Among our closest primate relatives, all the mothers are single mothers, and no significant paternal investment in offspring occurs. Not hands on infant and child care, and certainly not food sharing with females and offspring (at least, not to the incredible extent we do). You think gendered division of labor might have helped with survival of offsrping? Women mostly raise babies and gather, men mostly wage war and hunt? You think maybe the women who left their kids alone for days or weeks at a time to go wage war and hunt might have ended up with dead kids--frozen to death, or starved? What about the men who stayed home because they couldn't bear to be away from baby while mom went out to jog for hours or days after an animal until it collapsed and then dragged it back? How'd you think his baby fared? You think an innate set of biological predispositions might have evolved to keep women near their babies when they're small and simultaneously compel fathers to go out and get 'er done? I agree with you that Sweden's mothers and fathers doing it mostly that way is no problem and nobody's business. The problem occurs when the government introduces such measures with the intention of equalizing things between men and women. What Sweden *wants* is equality across the board. It's why they amended their paternity leave policy to force men to use it or lose it (and in the process, took away some parental leave weeks from the parent most likely to use it).

[@contentdesignwizardry2458]

This seems really good. I'm interested to see the results of this. Here are my thoughts: If extreme gender stereotypes affect people and society badly, then challenging them seems like a reasonable way to stop those negative effects. In the video they speak of people growing up stuck in behaviors they've based on their own identity which is partly founded on prejudice and social norms about how certain genders act. On that point I agree that a person that can adapt without any excuses that are based on their identity, and that also has an understanding for other people's judgmental behavior, is probably someone who is more capable and more valuable to society. Science seems to show that it is working: Amazing keep doing it then! Kids get better understanding of gender equality: Seems like they learned something about being human, cool. The government works to expose and tackle the gender pay gap: Whether or not the gender pay gap exists, that is great, because it means the whole society of Iceland is contributing to probably the greatest study(?) about whether pay gaps are justified or unjustified and if so how much. To get this right, the government, the companies and the people needs to keep track of the relevant criteria though. personally I don't know which the criteria are or how they are scientifically measured, and there is a risk to miss what is relevant at first. But I hope that the people that are being unjustly judged by the system chooses to speak up and revolt so that there is incentive to keep their criteria relevant and accurate. Companies are forced by law to choose who to hire based on facts rather than bias, they will more accurately get what they pay for. People are less unjustly treated, which should bring away bad morale, negativity and spitefulness. The only losers I see are companies that right now pays less than they should for the work they get by their workforce.

[@Marcos-hf4cz]

Those gender stereotypes are biological traits,or are you going to tell me that testosterone doesn't make you physically stronger and braver for example?

[@_gossipgirlxoxo]

Wow. Just wow. A role model nation indeed.

[@na-zt4hj]

No needed. We don't want feminist country like Iceland. I'm from Bangladesh

[@na-zt4hj]

@@divyanshchouhan4567 But feminism is bad. It's ok to give girls their rights. But Iceland is feminist bcoz here women are given more rights than man. I don't like that.

[@EliEli-xf5vz]

Fantastic!!!! that there is a nation willing to pursue a holistic, positive and kind thinking! May we all follow this example to create a peaceful and united world! all the people in this video are super cute, wow i think i will want to relocate to Iceland :):)

[@bonjour570]

That is it. I am moving to iceland. Now who's with me?

[@sabrinamorris8268]

As a woman I found that what is blocking me from the higher education is help with a learning disability that happens more in males there for there is less help available for my kind of learning disability ( reading disability) because it affects more males

[@leonesperanza3672]

Dont get me wrong Iceland is doing a great job. But I just searched the population and its only like 350k. bigger population = bigger problems. It's unfair to compare Iceland to a country with like a 1000 times more people to govern. People in the comments comparing countries like it's that easy.

[@aa898246]

sure, this is why when you test things you generally test it on a smaller population first. I'm fairly certain when they do these things they take into account the scalability of this.

[@mistere9038]

Instead of teaching boys to be more feminine and girls to be more masculine why not treat them all the same???

[@davidcooks2379]

That was tried and it's doesn't work. Children (and adults) trend to develop qualities in which they have an inherent advantage. So if we had male and female athletes compete together, e.g. in running, then even the best women are not better than average men. So women would just not dedicate time to develop qualities they have inherent disadvantage in. Same for men in synchronous swimming or dancing. When the best most plastic men are wooden compared to most female athletes. So it's right to catch people up in environments where they are at the similar level of capabilities, so they don't give up. Children, especially girls, are extremely quick to give up if they lose confidence and feel at a disadvantage. They just won't play it

[@mandarsonavane201]

Iceland I'm coming...

[@danielhayes8348]

She said most the cleaners are female.. And outdoor worlers were men.. I think that is extremely interesting

[@stovegamesgames6917]

2:00 laughed so hard when it said "pathetic" I think it meant to say empathetic but it sounds like pathetic

[@weirdhumanbeing9043]

I heard that to 😂🇮🇸

[@PamelaNam]

I heard it clearly em-pathetic, you meanies.

[@S2Tubes]

Freudian slip.

[@kimchibbq5242]

Respect to Iceland 🇮🇸

[@jeppep95]

You cant compare a cleanin lady to a dude laying asfalt

[@michelleheegaard]

Why not? Sure, the jobs are different but both are hard work.

[@jeppep95]

@@michelleheegaard because one is done indoors with nice and even temperature and the other ia done in the freezing cold or the scolding heat while laying smelly and really hot and dangerous asfalt

[@condor2279]

@@jeppep95 Don't bother. People like her will never understand. Coddled rich bitches.

[@contentdesignwizardry2458]

What do you mean more specifically? Economics is based on comparison in value.

[@jeppep95]

@@contentdesignwizardry2458 value is determined by supply and demand. Nobody wants to shovel sapfalt outdoors which makes the proffession more valuable

[@muslimahafiz2740]

I believe that if they are both working in the same environment, either inside or outside, and are doing the same jobs exactly, then there should be equal pay regardless of gender.

[@jusonn9922]

Dude imagine working outside at -20°C and being paid the same as some girl in the heated factory.

[@girlwriteswhat]

I had a stopover in Reykjavik in July this year, and it was 7C, with a wind chill that felt like 2C. IN FUCKING JULY!!! -20C is probably what they have in May. All particle motion probably stops for the entirety of January.

[@metolse475]

It's your fault for getting that shitty job. Become an engineer.

[@NicTheGreek1979]

Expensive Jams laws already exist to deal with unequal pay.

[@apparaya4225]

So I'm gonna ignore everything else?

[@CindymeCindy]

They said they ranked several criteria in coming up with the fact that the jobs were EQUAL. There are differences, yes, but other things were weighed which made them equal.

[@sonikasharma8932]

Great channel

[@anthonycosta128]

But I actually did not understand why they also do not teach boys to take risks in Iceland? What's the point here? Equality means teaching them the same thing

[@zapfanzapfan]

I wonder if they have any modelling agencies in Iceland...

[@obsidianstatue]

of course they do, and I can bet you 100 dollars that female models gets paid several times more than male models.

[@rainbowflowerpower4464]

obsidianstatue actually I would assume that since there are less male models then they would be in higher demand than female models and they would be paid more

[@obsidianstatue]

@@rainbowflowerpower4464 nope, there is a lower demand for male models THUS fewer male models in the industry, lower demand also means lower pay, this is simple economics, something modern feminists don't believe in.

[@plokijuh5830]

@@obsidianstatue MJ Fan is probably right. The lower demand for male models probably does not offset the far lower supply, thus increasing the relative wage they earn in comparison to female models. After all, women cannot model male clothes or appear in advertisements for products meant mainly for male demographics.

[@rainbowflowerpower4464]

Royal Satan Europe produces the most models out of all countries, if a model gets into a European modelling industry then she pretty much set

[@olivernicholson4502]

Traditional male dominated jobs are payed more because most of the time they're more practical and DANGEROUS. Not always though and in those instances both genders have to be paid the same

[@rustyworld2365]

wageindicator.co.uk/pay/gender-pay-gap-in-the-uk/highly-educted-men-earn-more-than-women-in-the-same-jobs-women-in-low-skill-jobs-earn-more-than-their-male-peers Same shit, still a gap. Google isn't that hard to use.