Why Are Acoustic to Electronic Drum Conversions So Popular? Exploring A2E Drums | The eDrum Workshop

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@360.Tapestry
@360.Tapestry 2 жыл бұрын
i don't personally mind the look of an electronic kit (for personal practice, etc), but when you're performing for people who don't know much about instruments, the appearance/stage presence is a huge factor. wowing them is part of the job. plus it's just fun to tinker, customize, and learn about your instrument
@jimbo121
@jimbo121 10 ай бұрын
I found your channel this past couple of weeks and I've been binge watching all your videos. Your work ethics, integrity and knowledge is incredible. Through your videos you literally convinced me to get a TD-17 module (bought and received a couple days ago) and even though this module is currently being paired with a bit of a franken kit, the trigger response completely changed my opinions of my pads. I thought they sucked but they are not complete garbage, the module (nitro) was the limitation. Even running Superior Drummer 3, ML Drums and AD2 feels much better under the sticks. I'm going off on a tangent, but you are a super relatable dude and you keep me watching. Your TD 17 packs are great by the way, I bought a couple kits to try out. I will definitely be getting all of them soon. I went from being a lifelong guitar player with a little bit of drumming skills to a seasoned guitar player now super obsessed with electronic drums, all because I wanted to trigger drum software in my DAW (pad by pad because I thought I wouldn't get good lol). Thanks for the time and effort you put into your channel.
@georgejohnson2046
@georgejohnson2046 4 жыл бұрын
I've converted two kits. An older PDP poplar shell kit and then I bought a Mapex Mars in Nightwood and converted it. I find the A2E conversions easier to go back and forth with my acoustic set up. One of the converted kits (Mars) is at church where I play. The other older rougher looking PDP is at home in the man cave. I have the whole basement as my man cave so I've also got a 7 piece Mapex Armory acoustic kit in there. I mostly practice and learn on the acoustic and the skills transfer easily to the full sized conversion. Also running a Pearl Mimic at home and a TD-15 with Addictive Drums 2 vst triggered at church. The Mimic is also the gig module. 65 Drums turned me onto this and I have to say I'm glad I did it.
@steph3571
@steph3571 5 жыл бұрын
Agree with you. I have a Roland TD30 custom, using it with Superior Drummer 3. I will sale the Roland pads only, keeping the TD30 module. I Just ordered a Pearl Export this week (in 10-12-14-16 toms - Kick 22 & Snare 14). My next plan is to convert it to electronic with R-drums triggers and drumtec Real Feel mesh heads.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good plan! I bet you'll probably make a fair chunk of your money back selling those Roland pads!
@dougs_videos_and_such
@dougs_videos_and_such 4 жыл бұрын
As Justin at 65 Drums points out, you have to enjoy tinkering if you want to do the DIY A2E conversion. Many people don't have the tools, time and patience. I took an inexpensive Ludwig Accent Combo 5 shell kit and installed UFO Drums "ebridges", rim protectors and mesh heads. It was a fun project and they play great. Using an eDRUMin and MegaDrum to trigger into Superior Drummer.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, very true! If you're not willing to invest time fiddling with settings, you'd be much better served with stock pads! Sounds like you've got a great setup going there!
@jasonellis7128
@jasonellis7128 2 жыл бұрын
Great points. Really enjoying the channel!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@martymet
@martymet 5 жыл бұрын
I built a ridiculously good a to e kit with drum tec heads and rubber rim guards, a drumit 3 module, a mapex mars drumset, helensson itm2 triggers and all the cables and total spent less than $2000.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds great! And what a good price overall!
@MrVirgilVox
@MrVirgilVox 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about convertingt one to an E-Kit. But then I recently tried a Roland VAD306 electronic kit and was underwhelmed. Above all the cymbals are awful compared to real cymbals. They just don't feel right. Also you need really tight in ears to not be annoyed by the noise of the e-kit while playing. I had to put ear muffs over the in ears to be able to only hear the drum sounds at a bearable volume level. Especially the sticks hitting the rubber of the cymbals and rims was very annyoing. So what I did was I build a drum box / room within a room and thus isolated it pretty much completely from the rest of the house. It did cost me less than 1000,-EUR. The E-Kit conversion would have cost twice or three times that much. Now I can play an actual Drum Kit all day and night in a nicely sound treated room which also makes recordings of the drums sound so much better.
@3rdGen-Media
@3rdGen-Media 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrVirgilVox Let's see it
@daveseemerollin6357
@daveseemerollin6357 5 жыл бұрын
Top notch content mate
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
@SydneyDrums
@SydneyDrums 26 күн бұрын
9:55 people loved the look of those kits in the mid-80s, some people didn't like the hard playing surfaces & the big thing that most people did not like about them was the insane price at the time, the prices were as much as a new car.
@MiNiKi71
@MiNiKi71 5 жыл бұрын
I love my pearl rhythm traveller. 10 12 14, 20 and 13. Sufficiently cosmetic and light for me thank you.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! I think that seems like the sweet spot for me too - I use a 12" rack, 14" floor tom and a 13" snare (when I'm not using the Roland digital one) with a 10" aux pad. Ideally I'd like an 18" or 20" kick but for space and transport I went with a 16" for the time being. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@MiNiKi71
@MiNiKi71 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Keep up the good work
@ExtremeDrumsTriggers
@ExtremeDrumsTriggers 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@spideliciousx9822
@spideliciousx9822 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Roland TD27KV and customised the heck out of it. Added a Roland TD12 brain module and a heap of other pads/cymbals, expanded the existing rack with lengthened side rails, made the front of the rack wider to accommodate a full 22in acoustic bass drum. Also has acoustic cymbals, so its a bit of a hybrid kit! I bought a second hand bass drum off Facebook marketplace, re-shelled it and then modified it to house the existing KD10 Roland bass drum pad. By the end it looks like the Roland bass drum modification kit you can buy. It looks just like a normal Bass drum from the side and front. At the back there's a small section where the pad protrudes from the drum. The round pad sticks out more then the Roland modified version by about 25mm or so, but is very neat and perpendicular with the rest of the bass drum so doesn't look out of place. The whole KD10 is neatly and fully bolted down into the Acoustic Bass drum housing and with black heads mostly fully disguises its true intent :-) (At this time, it still has clear heads, but i'll put black ones on to completely tidy its appearance) With the KD10 being fully bolted into the drum, its solid as a rock and stable! Playing it really surprised me, its solid and stable just like an acoustic bass drum, but the pad surface has enough "give" to bury the beaters into it and feels dare I say, near perfect! I integrated 6.3mm mono jacks into the bass drum so it has a neat plug on top to connect into, so no messy cables snaking into the drum. I went into the project thinking, it will turn to @#$%, but it actually turned out far better than I expected and I'm really stoked on the result. It turned out to be a solid, neat and fantastic conversion. Its "all in one" and fully integrated, so no disassembly, just pull the plug out of the top and that's it, its ready to move as one. Wish photo's could be added, because words don't do it justice tbh! Oh, and because the KD10 bass drum pad is not integrated with either of the acoustic head skins, there is no added noise produced from the conversion. Its as silent as the original stand alone KD10 pad. Anyways, sorry for the long post, but as you can tell, this project could not have worked out any better (imo) and for once, turned out actually far better then I'd pictured or planned, so I'm pretty excited about it :-)
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you've got yourself a great setup there and it's awesome that it's got you super excited! Nothing better than really enjoying your kit after putting the work in to get it where you want it - congrats!
@spideliciousx9822
@spideliciousx9822 4 жыл бұрын
The eDrum Workshop Thanks, appreciate the feedback! 🤘
@Hairy_Melon
@Hairy_Melon 4 жыл бұрын
For me, my conversion was brought about by moving my drums into a new house where I don't have the luxury of keeping my kit acoustic. It is a very large kit but that being said, with the proper research (drum modules vs. MIDI interfaces, etc.) I have been able to convert my kit without downsizing in terms of number of drums/cymbals and do so much cheaper than buying a new e-kit.
@twtobin941
@twtobin941 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I am planning to do, but still researching. Can you share what triggers (snare, tom, kick) you decided on, and what trigger/drum module? Thanks!
@Hairy_Melon
@Hairy_Melon 2 жыл бұрын
@@twtobin941 I'm using three eDRUMin MIDI modules (connected to my laptop running Superior Drummer). Triggers are Helensson triggers for my octobans, Triggera Ontriggs for toms and snares, and Yamaha DT50Ks for my bass drums.
@twtobin941
@twtobin941 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hairy_Melon Thanks for the quick answers. Seems you went for temporary triggers, which look great. I'm more keen on permanent internal triggers, maybe like the ones from Jobeky or UFO (R-Drums look great but way too pricey). But glad to know that your setup is working well with eDRUMin modules and Superior. eDRUMin 10 is still out of stock, but hoping I can get one at some point. Will use with my Mac running Slate SSD5.5. Someday might invest in SD.
@Hairy_Melon
@Hairy_Melon 2 жыл бұрын
@@twtobin941 Yeah, I didn't want to do anything permanent to the shells - maybe if it were a lower-end kit - but everything works well. Can't complain. Best of luck with yours!
@twtobin941
@twtobin941 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hairy_Melon The 'bar' type triggers (Jobeky, UFO, etc.) aren't permanent - you can easily install and remove them without any damage to the drum - it just requires unscrewing them from your drum lug screws. But of course the hoop mounted ones you use can install/uninstall much faster. I just like the idea of the bar triggers as from the reviews I've read they seem to be more accurate and sensitive than side-mounted triggers of any kind. The only thing that would damage drum shells is if you had to drill holes for the cable jacks... which I won't do. I will leave the bottom heads of my shells (I have an Ayotte kit with 'quick release' lugs that don't rattle if you don't have the head installed) so I can simply lead the cable out the bottom of the shell, and maybe have a 1/4" cable jack mounted to one of the lugs somewhere.
@johnconnell1675
@johnconnell1675 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on! After watching this one I am now debating getting a good module (like a DTX 900) and something like a $400 Yamaha bop kit, mesh heads, triggers and DTX cymbals. The new eKits that are really attractive to me all have small acoustic like shells, like the Alesis Strike Pro SE and the Roland Vad306. 🤔
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of options to go for if you're happy to do the legwork on an A2E! Glad you enjoyed the video and it helped with thinking about options, but apologies if it's just thrown more disarray into the equation haha!
@stephenchesterjr1364
@stephenchesterjr1364 5 жыл бұрын
converted a ludwig breakbeats kit with drumtec real feel heads and ufo triggers roland cymbals into a td11(upgrading to a TD30 module soon) with SSD5, i use this for a writing and recording solution
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great setup!
@benjisidzett4632
@benjisidzett4632 3 жыл бұрын
For me the feeling of an acoustic drum set is very important but I don't have enough money to buy one of those ATV kits that look like acoustic drums or any of the Roland VAD kits so I really like convention kits for the looks, the price, the feel and the fact that you can set it up how ever you want without the rack. Great video man keep up the good work
@davidlambert5123
@davidlambert5123 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had an acoustic kit for years, but I wasn’t able to practice much at the house because of the noise. I bought an electronic kit, just a small one to practice on quietly, & I liked being able to play more so much that I’ve decided to convert my acoustic. I have an Alesis DM10 MKII & I picked up some better used Strike cymbals. I’m looking for good mesh heads & triggers that will work with that module.
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 2 жыл бұрын
I just built a 14" inch snare with a Convertible Percussions dual zone trigger I found on ebay. Works great on my Roland module. Simple, easy to install, and inexpensive. Discount for multiple purchase too.
@davidlambert5123
@davidlambert5123 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndef5075 I ended up trying out the same trigger on my snare, along with a drum tec mesh head. It is great. Triggers perfectly. I ended up using the side mounted 2BOX triggers for the toms. I upgraded my module to a 2BOX drumit 3, & I’ve been converting my EZDrummer files for the 2BOX since it takes multilayer samples. Couldn’t be happier with it
@256k_
@256k_ Жыл бұрын
I bought an alesis surge kit used a month ago on a whim as i wanted to finally learn how to play drums and it's been a great entry point but i disliked the reliance on a computer and the sizing was just wrong so i decided to try and buy the cheapest/best deal i could find on an acoustic drum kit and i found one for a good price where i can comfortably hack it and mess with the shells if i needed to without worrying about losing my investment. I was still interested in having it remain acoustic though but it quickly dawned on me that the noise level of drums was a lot more than i had anticipated and while i might still be able to get away with it sometimes, i feel like it'll always be on my mind while im playing that im making too much noise or i worry about my wife or my dog or my neighbour getting frustrated. there is definitely something wonderful to the sound and power of an acoustic set but now i'm really debating if i should just convert that kit to an ekit and accept my reality that ekits are just way more practical and useful especially for home setups. really torn on the matter
@richa1894
@richa1894 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased an Odery Cafe kit yesterday for 200. I want to convert to edrum with mesh heads. I have the Roland TM-6 Pro. Any recommendations for me?
@jgreen2015
@jgreen2015 2 жыл бұрын
Many reasons Including the look but mainly the size and spacing of the drums being a better more accurate simulation of an acoustic kit
@rez6541
@rez6541 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video...I agree with you on all your points besides the cosmetic benefits of an a2e there's definitely a psychological benefit. When you're playing live with say a rock band you want to be behind something meaty. You want to drive something with power and guts not a little smart car. Play behind say an atv or the new roland kits even the alesis strike then play behind a roland td17kv and see the difference. I'm not arguing sounds just the size and feel of the overall kit. Another thing is you never want to be a distraction to your band and what they're trying to do. What I mean is you don't want to be in a Metallica tribute band on stage with a roland td1k. Yes it may sound great through the PA but it's going to look very silly to the audience. This is where a bigger more acoustic looking kit comes into play it's more digestible for everyone. Of course if you're playing in a top 40 band probably nobody will care, every situation is different.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I agree on your points there - certain bands might come with certain expectations and although some might say it shouldn't matter, unfortunately it sometimes does and playing to those expectations means things will go smoother!
@markwebber1189
@markwebber1189 3 жыл бұрын
I converted my Ludwig Breakbeat kit with jobeky triggers and rubber cymbals with Roland module. It works great and I've gigged it, people don't even know it's electric but you need a good PA to a great sound. The real advantage comes when rehearsing as the volume of all the band can be controlled, giving everyone a more enjoyable experience.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed - the PA's ability to reproduce the sound well is probably the most important piece of the puzzle!
@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage
@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage 5 жыл бұрын
After buying Roland stuff the price difference is insane and there is so much to experiment with now and I can buy a good acoustic kit for what a few pads or rubber cymbals would cost and the internals can be dirt cheap. You can go as little or as much 'acoustic' as you want. I always wanted a drum kit but due to noise I knew it was never gonna happen but I still dreamt of one. So when I demo'd a TD30KV while walking past a music store, not even looking at drums let alone edrums, I found the solution was right in front of me. It was like playing my dream kit. I was blow away by it's feel and sound because till that moment I would have never thought an ekit could be this amazing and imagine if you are in the same position now and it's an ATV, drum-tec or late to the party but from Roland, VAD. It will be even more amazing. Sure the price was, oh boy...but it was that or nothing and it was gonna be mine one day! I'm sure a lot of people get an ekit because they just don't have space or can't have it loud cause why would you pay so much for one, they end up not using them and sell them anyway lol. Of course there are many other advantages to it also like plug n play, editing, kinder to beginners, VSTs and drum sticks last forever lol...price, yeah don't think about it too much! So if you can take the best parts of an acoustic kit and fuse it with an ekit, that is the next step for some. It will still cost ya but I feel like you can have the perfect A2E for less and you can learn a thing or two if you are willing to go thru with it. If edrums is your first experience then maybe acoustic will feel too weird and 'un-natural' and an ekit is all you need. I enjoyed my time with the TD30KV it was an amazing introduction to edrums and that's all I can use for a comparison but I also realized how Roland segments their stuff and purposely won't innovate. Not because they can't or are dumb over there, they just play it safe, rolling out stuff slowly every new release while still selling you really old tech at the same time for more, their profit margins must be huge, like a lot of companies who are the market leader and I just can't support that personally, I want choice. A few years ago I'd be all over the VAD line up but I'm glad it was done by others and now Roland is copying them. At least they can't patent it for themselves but can still maintain it's their amazing revolutionary invention.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of other options to try nowadays! As you say, Roland stuff is very expensive! Sure, they seem to get away with it and people pay it for the reliability, but it's hard to justify for some of the pads! I agree that many people are definitely using eDrums because they aren't or weren't able to have an acoustic kit at home or didn't have a space to use them in. Getting eDrums as close to acoustics as possible while still retaining their electronic edge is the way I've tried to approach mine and it's an approach I see a lot of people taking too! Thanks for watching!
@klemensholzbauer1983
@klemensholzbauer1983 5 жыл бұрын
Nice content.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Klemens!
@EricFDrums
@EricFDrums 5 жыл бұрын
Ill say that certainly perhaps a big reason for me to get my Muzzio Custom kit may have been aesthetic, but i will also say that by far the biggest reason is that it feels totally different than playing on the old Roland pads i had. Playing on toms up to 16inch and a 22inch kick etc feels like playing a totally different instrument than the Roland type pads. When the stick hits the head, and you feel the stick sink into the drum, all the sudden you realize its far more like playing an acoustic kit. I always read people blasting kits like mine but i always find they are the same people who never tried playing on an ekit made from real acoustic shells, real acoustic diameters, and real acoustic depths etc. You cant possibly know what the feeling is if you have never experienced it. After playing my Roland kit for approx 9 years solely and then moving to my new kit, i had to almost relearn how to play over again because the feel and response was that much different. ANyway, i agree with most people that cosmetics may or may not be important (to me the are), but until you have sat behind a kit like this you really dont have the full story........like not at all....
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I see where you're coming from there! It is a different feel, and that can make such a large difference in how you play that it should never be overlooked. Although I don't use those exact sizes myself, I try to make the sizes I use respond as closely as possible to the acoustic counterparts - but you can definitely only do that so much with 10/12" pads, especially on something like a kick or floor tom, as you say. Something else I had pointed out on FB the other day that didn't make the video as I'd already shot it was the feeling of how the shells themselves move on your hardware - this can make a massive difference too. There's a lot more subtle bits that add together than people might think!
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 5 жыл бұрын
Did your Roland have rubber pads? Thats definitely a big difference in feel.
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 5 жыл бұрын
As long as YOU are enjoying it nothing else really matters. I see alot of comments dissing edrums and wonder if they ever tried them. I started acoustic. Bought a used Roland td-10 2 years ago for $750 and really enjoy it. I look forward to playing every day if possible. And Im surprised that it translates back to my acoustics well too, which I can rarely play because of volume issues. I think most drummers who tried an ekit for the first time would have a blast. Ive since built another smaller set with mostly rubber pads and bought a Yamaha dd-65. They are all super fun even at 56.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with that John - ultimately, it only matters whether you like it!
@EricFDrums
@EricFDrums 5 жыл бұрын
@@johndef5075 no they were all mesh heads. Had td30 module and all pd100 and 120 pads along with pd128 snare and Roland cymbals. Was a fun kit.
@jaegervand2112
@jaegervand2112 Жыл бұрын
Drum-tec would be worth my consideration if they change their lug design. Also, for the price, there should be some kind of high-tech suspension tom mounts ala Sonor Prolite or Tama Star(classic).
@prime98k4
@prime98k4 3 жыл бұрын
My two points for conversion are: -Is better to practice drum if you're a musician who performs in god knows who drumkit, what will be acoustic most of the time, but in come I can't make as much noise as I want but I want to play like if I were playing in an acoustic drumkit.
@bobbyjones2112
@bobbyjones2112 Жыл бұрын
The only problem is, I’m comparing the Roland VAD504 to building my own to that caliber and it’s way more expensive. It would be a lot funner to do the conversion. I’m looking at a cool Mapex kit for $599. That’s for five pieces, one Tom two floor toms configuration. And using the TD 27 module which is about $1300 right there. Then the cymbals are not cheep. Th ya gotta add in cables and hardware. I don’t see how I can get everything like that for what I can buy the Roland 504 which is $4200. I think it would be way more money to do it yourself if you want good high quality equipment. I wish it was lower because that’s what I want to do. I want to convert some cool looking drum set to electronic, and buy cool looking I don’t even mean expensive. $600 is really cheap considering the quality of that Mapex kit. Advice, advice advice….lol 😂
@Acoustic2Electronic
@Acoustic2Electronic Ай бұрын
Hashtag #BRAG had me dying 😄😄😂
@mediaguy50
@mediaguy50 4 жыл бұрын
MY ELECTRONIC DRUMS STORY - I built a electronic conversion 20+ years ago (around 1998) with a TD8 (had positional sensing) and 2 Pintech dual zone pads for the snare drum and ride cymbals. For the hi hat I used an acoustic hat with a mic which I mixed into the system with a small mixer. Mesh heads (for me) aren't the best solution - they seem pretty mushy and they were not really available at the time anyway......So I bought drum pad rubber at an industrial supply company (with 1/8 wood) and cut it to tom size and placed them on the toms with a simple stick-on trigger - no fancy internal triggers which for the application (toms) is way over the top. These very basic triggers worked perfectly. I used it for about 15 years and it worked very well. It gave me quiet practice and musical flexibility and compared to Roland's dedicated kits it was dirt cheap for pretty much the same product - plus it looked kool too. I really didn't think about electronic drums again for quite awhile until I played the Yamaha DTX 532 with the 3 zone snare and ride/crash. I don't understand how drummers don't value a 3 zone snare more. Almost every genre except heavy metal requires cross stick - and remembering to switch kits BEFORE the song starts is a super drag So I really loved the Yamaha's for this reason and the ride cymbal. I played them along with an acoustic kit for a lot of years with pretty much the best of both worlds. I am retired now and I have both the time and the resources to play what I want, so I began shopping. My friend bought a TD50 which wasn't really much better than what I was using and the price was shocking. The thing about Roland is, they know they are priced outrageously, but it doesn't matter if you can sell one of their kits for only a small discount after you have used it for 5 years. That makes it worth it and the price really not that important. With a conversion kit, however, the resale price is facing a heavy discount, making it effectively more costly. So I am considering buying a TD27 for $4500 (Canadian Dollars) enjoy it until it makes sense to move up and the net cost should be reasonable, OR DO A A2E conversion for a fraction of that ($2500) with some used parts and a bunch of time...and get a really great kit that looks good and has all the features you THINK you are going to use but usually don't - with a big chance of taking a "bath", when I go to sell it. There are a lot of pluses and minuses in that equation. Another Conversion approach could be (I like this one a lot) - If I take my Yamaha module DTX760 and the HI Hat, snare and cymbal (all 3 zone) and convert a good looking acoustic kit with some simple triggers on the toms and bass and their you go voila.....another way of getting it done. Acoustic conversions don't make sense financially unless you buy a ekit (used or new) to get the ride, hi hat and snare...otherwise you are paying huge for the cymbals - You could always use acoustic cymbals as an alternative solution since the big value for Ekits is in the drum sounds. Still working on what I am going to do....... Paul
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
An insightful post! Your wood pad e-kit sounds interesting, would love to see pictures if there are any about! The 3-zone snare thing - most current Roland modules can achieve head, rimshot and then either rim click or cross-stick which can be swapped between with the press of a dedicated "X-stick" button which usually satisfies this need. Since rim clicks aren't used as much as cross-stick in a lot of genres, it works well enough - though there's always the digital snare if you want as close as we've currently got. I know what you mean about the Yamaha snares not being seen in as high a regard for some reason - not sure if it's the nature of the silicone pads, they seem to be a bit divisive. Interesting. As for the stock vs A2E debate, there's a lot of levels you can approach it from, hope you find the best one for you!
@gianski3306
@gianski3306 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to convert my drum set because I bought my acoustic kit before the pandemic thinking “I just started getting in bands, I’m going to use this on gigs”, but then the world closed down, so now I have a useless acoustic kit, why can’t I use them for practice? The houses here are literally built together, so I’d be risking noise complaints, so I started trying to convert mine, because I can use them at home and when I start gigging again, it saves me time from setting up mics too so there’s that.
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 5 жыл бұрын
After playing edrums for awhile my acoustic drums seem huge. 14 inch snare feels way too big. 12" pads are the biggest I would need. On ekit large size is for appearance only and I dont care that much. Substance over style for me.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I had the same experience after going back from my older Octapad setup where I used a 12" snare and I think that is part of the reason I really enjoy using a 13" snare on my acoustic (as well as liking the sound, of course). But yeah, I can see why some people don't need or even want larger shells! Do feel any of the "advantages" I've talked about apply to your playing experience at all?
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I would still like to try that digital Roland snare though. I think the thing that makes smaller ekits look weird is the small kd10 style bass pads.If an 18" or larger bass is used it makes any kit more presentable for stage. If I played out I would definitely upsize my bass drum.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
The digital snare really is good! Yeah, I know what you mean there - I used to use a little DIY 12" kick drum and it wasn't until I changed it out for a 16" one that I was happy with the stage presence.
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I just built a 14" snare and Im loving it. My opinion is a little different now🤣Used a Convertible Percussion trigger. Really impressed with the quality and very reasonable price. Had it triggering very well with juat a few minor tweaks in mt td10exp module. Would definitely buy again. Supports positional sensing too!
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
Ive completely changed my opinion after doing an a to e conversion on my 66 Ludwigs. It feels sooo much better than my Roland kit which I like very much. Especially the full size bass drum. If you can do it a to e is nice.
@randalscandal1588
@randalscandal1588 3 жыл бұрын
You could have stopped at "you don't want to see an indy folk band". LOL. One other issue is stage volume going both ways, too loud or too quiet if it's edrums just thru monitors depending on what people are used to.
@Tony-fx9ky
@Tony-fx9ky 2 жыл бұрын
Jeeszbefore Vietnam?!
@Daddynixterdrums
@Daddynixterdrums Жыл бұрын
Better feel, more realistic, more long term versatility and adaptability.
@mikestein1024
@mikestein1024 4 жыл бұрын
I converted my cymbals myself check out my superstitious cover
@TheLeftistOwl
@TheLeftistOwl 3 жыл бұрын
I live my A2E and honestly think it's the route most people should go (if they have the space) most acoustic size e drums are incredibly expensive whereas a cheap A2E conversion can be as low as $1700
@algranato9006
@algranato9006 2 жыл бұрын
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