Sonic Forces (Zero Punctuation)

[@mcbadrobotvoice8155]

The good developers must be held in some kind of interment facility

[@jmurray1110]

I do wish people would stop conflating furry and zoophile

[@Bruh-zx2mc]

@@jmurray1110 Implying there's a distinction between being attracted to fur and tails, and being attracted to fur and tails. Yeah, not sure what you're getting onto mate, looks mostly the same to me.

[@jmurray1110]

@@Bruh-zx2mc the distinction is consent furries are anthropomorphic and have human like cognition animals do not Also the humanoid features can be more appealing than a straight animal

[@Bruh-zx2mc]

@@jmurray1110 "the distinction is consent" You're still attracted to animals.

[@jmurray1110]

@@Bruh-zx2mc no I take it you didn’t read the second point

[@mocagami]

the fact that youre glad its honest trash and not EA cut-and-paste is really really understandably tragic

[@lolaluvv]

He never said any of those things. You've extrapolating a bit too much from this... and the EA bit.... did you even watch the video? He hates the bastards just as any of us should!

[@superleipoman]

It is literally the point of the video that "at leat Sonic is shit because it is shit" and not "because companies are trying to ass-rape it for more money." He's not extrapolating anything, but I'm glad you know a fancy word far beyond your reading (listening?) comprehension skills.

[@malikoniousjoe]

midbus does things The real question is "Did YOU watch the video?"

[@addi543]

Honestly, I took it as Sonic Team needs to go

[@pearsareawful9006]

0:57 Welp. Yahtzee predicted the reception of Sonic Frontiers.

[@MilkshakeVA]

*ITS TIME TO FACE YOUR FEAAAAAAAAAR*

[@Tenchigo100]

The Sonic Forces Villan is *THE VERY DEFINITION* of a fan art character. If you read the bios of cringy Sonic Evil/Freindemy OC they practically state - Created By Robotnic - *Stronger* than Sonic - *Faster* than Sonic - Beats Sonic Even Tails rubs in my fact with "Woah he's FASTER THAN SONIC?!" He's litterally a Sonic OC... With a dumb edgy name to boot.

[@theirishviking9278]

you forgot "always wears a mask" and "lost to shadow because he's better"

[@rift3068]

@@theirishviking9278 also forgot “edgier than a razor blade factory”

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

This is even worse than that one MLP Fanfic I once wrote where I didn't even bother to create a scary villain, just copy-pasted Gaunter O'Dimm exactly as he always was

[@gayflower900]

Hedgehog vs. Edgehog

[@thomasraines1396]

That sounds terrible.

[@LordDeathwing17]

There was an early Extra Credits mailbag episode where they got asked about how to fix Sonic, and the answer they have boiled down to two points: 1) Let Sonic disappear for a few years. Don’t announce or release any Sonic games, then when you do, people might actually be excited for it. 2) Take Sonic out of Sonic Team’s hands.

[@zacharyjohnson7419]

Do you know what episode it was in

[@mrobbinsite9597]

@@zacharyjohnson7419 MailBag episode 2, around 3 minutes in.

[@repeekyraidcero]

It's funy how that's te same way way to fix KingdomHearts. Just replace "SonicTeam" with "OsakaTeam" Also, can we please have another DIMPS sonic ? SA 1-3 were awesome.

[@damongaming275]

@@mrobbinsite9597 got a link?

[@crossbones116]

Looking at Sonic Force's wafer thin story gives the impression that the game had four different writers all locked up in separate rooms. "Sonic's dead! Oh wait, he's confirmed alive in the first fucking level." "Tails has just lost it... in that he's basically the exact same as ever." "Sonic's being tortured! Except not really!"

[@virginloser4850]

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[@Guilmonhero]

It doesn't help that those lines were just translation issues rather than actual lines. Sonic was never tortured and Tails was just missing. It felt like those lines were there to make the story seem a little darker than it actually wasn't.

[@Montesama314]

Either there were different writers, or the same guy (or people) thought up SOME story ideas ("Holy shit, fans, it's a new villain!" or "Woah, Metal Sonic!" or "Oh no, Sonic could be dead!"), didn't know how to stitch the ideas together, and finally said "f*ck it" to the story portions in between. Yes, that definitely happens. See Amy Hennig's work on Uncharted 3, where she admitted that the writers thought up the game's flashy setpieces first and the rest second.

[@MrOmegatronic]

The torture was Eggman making Sonic play _Sonic '06_ while he waits, the prison didn't have any actual good games in its casual unlocked cells or gaming dens.

[@lenameyer2921]

@@Guilmonhero .

[@SupremeMarioGamer]

That ending... Battlefront 2 is his next review, isn't it? That'll be good.

[@frednino71]

Check it out on escapist magazine website *Plug Plug*

[@Buster_real]

"Seriously, fuck EA." "Way ahead of you, Yahtz-" "Well, fuck them a notch less sensitively then!"

[@XFGHL78E]

Yes it is, conformed by checking The Escapist website *Plug Plug*

[@eatkimchi4425]

The day after the next video: Yahtzee Croshaw, age 34, has died from his heart exploding in rage.

[@twash2186]

Not for me. I have heard so many people make jokes and chew out EA over battle front that it's gotten old, like trump jokes. Sure, a few are okay, but it's reached the point of beating a dead horse.

[@weneedmorefacemapsasprofil1593]

Sonic Forces his fans to make good games themselves.

[@sandshaye637]

Sonic World R8 Sonic Mania Sonic Universe

[@panicsquad3023]

Maybe it would be better if the fans didn't suck so much.

[@vilememory]

The only thing that could have saved Sonic Forces is if the Villain smelled a black rose and quoted 'Linkin Park' songs everytime he showed up.

[@vilememory]

Infinite is so edgy, they should have embraced it. Gone over the top, go cheesy edgy with him. That is where the black rose smelling and Linkin Park quoting comes in. Just go over the top with it.

[@_soap]

Dude his theme song that plays every time he shows up could've easily been on meteroa or hybrid theory

[@Ginfidel]

CRAWWWWWWWWWLING IN MY CRAWWL

[@KelltheTitan]

I get what you're saying. It is a fun little rule about story-telling. If you're trying to tell a serious story, you have to make sure you get everything right. Even one tiny detail out of place can ruin everything, like having a "way past cool" protagonist that can't seem to decide if he cares or not about the world-ending plot. Then it becomes unintentionally silly. You don't want unintentionally silly. Unintentionally silly *can* be a good thing, but it is a gamble where the odds are never in your favor. If, however, you embrace the silly, you'll find a lot more leeway in your story. Small hiccups are forgiven, because they are par for the course. When a story goes out of its way to be as ridiculous as it damn well pleases, something like a super edgy villain goes from feeling forced and lame to being campy and fun. Imagine him actually bringing a radio to the boss fight and having to fiddle with it before the level so it can blast death-metal in the background. You could even have it be a part of the game mechanic where he stops and is vulnerable because the radio is malfunctioning and started playing something upbeat and happy. The whole time saying: "Ow!" "NO!" "This isn't fair!" "I need my music!" "I can't be an intimidating bad guy without really cool boss music!"

[@ralphmueller3725]

the thought of that made me throw up a little.

[@Midnight-Starfish]

Sonic Force: if DeviantArt finally got their way.

[@KidSnivy69]

It didn't already have their way?!

[@thejastdays]

Sad but true.

[@genuineculter5640]

If?

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

Espeonage the Espeon Spy ... And STILL had to play backseat to the Blue Blur! It's like a sad compromise...!

[@geardog24]

If Deviantart really had it's way there would be an inflatable Rouge OC.

[@zakkybounce]

FINALLY someone mentioned Robotnik's army. How the fuck did he manage to take over the world when all his robots do is fucking stand there aimlessly in rows and rows?

[@filipbabovic8474]

Zach Brown The same thing with mario...but does anyone complain...

[@zakkybounce]

Donald Trumpet Oh, don't worry. That's annoying too but I'm focusing on the subject matter in the video, dude.

[@zakkybounce]

Daniel Jones agreed.

[@dapperblookanimations226]

Robert Hoffman Sadly the same thing happened to tails. He became a cowardly cheerleader.

[@dapperblookanimations226]

Daniel Jones If they had enemies from heroes I'd definitely see how eggman could have won. All of that power and he makes the most disappointing enemies.

[@DavidxxCrescentXX]

Wasted potential is the best way to describe this game. And painfully mediocre

[@KidSnivy69]

That probably one of the worst crime to do

[@Varfair]

Davuman The hell? Did this game had potential?

[@appliedatoms7066]

that wasted potential has this be somehow more disappointing than other objectively worse games. I know Sega is masters at squandering an advantage (Lost World and Boom, heck the Saturn in general wasted the potential they built coming off of Genesis), but somehow I thought they'd learn from Mania. Unfortunate.

[@benny_boy19]

I thought the music was pretty good and there was some neat concepts but that’s it , concepts that are either never explore or literally spent a femtosecond developing. painfully mediocre game

[@DoubleBrew]

Honestly, I'm not sure there's much potential in the sonic franchise. I liked Sonic Mania because it had the classic gameplay but not enough to actually finish the game or play it more than once. People need to say it: Sonic is a shit character and all his little friends are even worse. They are completely obnoxious and without anything remotely compelling story-wise, any aspect of any sonic game that is not gameplay related is doomed to be terrible because the premise and characters are terrible. Sonic 2 wasn't a hit game because of art style and story, it was because it was fast paced, challenging and fun. 3D sonic games are Slow, easy, and not fun.

[@orryyy]

*IM NOT SONIC IN MY ORIGINAL CHARACTER BLONIC*

[@brackonstudios]

*And I'm Blails.*

[@Jamushu]

*HOW EMBARRASSING OwO*

[@brackonstudios]

Just post the last line of the video why don't-cha?

[@Renogade]

I'm a Fuckels

[@RAFMnBgaming]

colic the hedgehog.

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

2:48 OMG, can you imagine the potential laughter we could have gotten in that scene, if we actually DID break into Sonic's cell, he's all grateful but still defeated because now he thinks you're both imprisoned, and then your silent protagonist opens the cell-door, and gives Sonic a clear "Are-you-taking-the-piss?" face expression

[@soulkibble1466]

My favorite line: "Look at all those Eggman's Robots"

[@imaginaryfanboy]

"Fuzzy animals fighting an evil villain with the power of friendship? Come on, it's not Harry Potter" - that's no excuse. That is pretty much the plot of Undertale. Any concept can be done and entertain both kids and adults IF there's actual talent and love put into it.

[@poodoodrilldick7757]

ɪᴍᴀɢɪɴᴀʀʏꜰᴀɴʙoʏ well only children like undertale

[@moproodu]

"Undertale is a good game" ~Yahtze

[@Deathclaw-lh5tl]

I'm pretty sure it's his hate-boner for the franchise talking.

[@Darth234Ravenous]

Look at Friendship is Magic. That alone destroys the idea of kids and adults can't like something, no matter how childish it seems.

[@loren5432]

I thought Pacifist run in Undertale was too cringe, childish and predictable to swallow (come on, friendship and believing in yourself to beat big bad? Who didn't see that coming), while I had a blast with Genocide (probably because I'm an asshole and I like seeing a game that treats me like a proper psychopath instead of a generic hero that gets away with everything even if he fucks around with NPCs) so... meh to this comment I guess. Besides, going Pacifist makes you miss two badass boss battles (Undyne and Sans), which isn't really worthy unless you gauge your own morality by what ending a game gives you (in which case you have some serious issues).

[@asimplecartoonist3898]

As one of those supermarket trolley attendants I take great offense to this video good sir

[@totally_not_a_skeleton-old]

Evi1M4chine what the fuck

[@crazyshark1016]

But we need these senseless jobs to earn money. What does a profit matter if nobody can afford to buy your product or service? If we make it all automated, then few can buy the product/service and/or profit means nothing. If nothing is automated, profit is reduced. We can't win. And these higher skilled jobs aren't always available but lower skill jobs can be churned out almost at will so pretty much everyone has a chance at making a living. That's not to say spoon-feed people and not have consquences for their actions but teach the child to swim, don't just throw them in the ocean and let them figure it out.

[@Sorain1]

To be fair, no one should expect you to stop a hostile army and military/industrial complex. Mind if you do people are going to think you are awesome AND that they were probably pretty bad at the whole 'hostile army and military/industrial complex' thing.

[@PotatoHedgehog]

Sonic Forces you to be disappointed.

[@HattyBoyo]

PotatoHedgehog more like fandom forces

[@GameThruz]

2:02 This. EI've been saying ever since the guy who created gifs told the world how it's said, I've been saying he has no say in the matter because he left it to the public for twenty fucking years. Same with Robotnik. Born in the eighties? Fuck Eggman, his name is Robotnik.

[@Leo-pw3kf]

According to the rich and refined lore of the Sonic franchise, Dr. Robotnik is the actual name. Eggman is a mocking nickname Sonic and co. invented to fat-shame Robotnik. ... ... Which still doesn't make any sense, because Robotnik started naming everything he builds with the prefix "Egg" (Egg Carrier, Eggmanland, etc.) and even calling himself Eggman. Maybe he decided to "own" the nickname? Like gay people started calling themselves queer? Or maybe Sonic Team has no fucking clue what they're doing and make shit up when they write themselves into corners?

[@patchmoulton5438]

Tbh, I could have sworn they were two different characters. (Going with the Archi comics here) I remember seeing a cover way back when with the headline "Robotnik is BACK!?" while showing the face of the Eggman we know now and the older Robotnik from first season comics and SatAM. I didn't actually read it tho.

[@shadowspider9]

His name has always been Eggman in Japan. Robotnick is a name the western developers gave him. Just like how for years in America Bowser was called Koopa, and Peach Toadstool.

[@Leo-pw3kf]

shadowspider9 that is the external explanation. But Sonic's "writers" decided to incorporate this disparity into the story in some very odd metatexutal manuever. It didn't quite land.

[@shadowspider9]

The thing is games (and anime) were often given minor to drastic changes when translated to the west in order to make the game more appealing to that market. Kibry, Sonic, Mario, Mega-man/Rock-man. Nearly all games in the 90's were somehow changed when translated. The advent of the internet however made it impossible to keep those chances a secrete and was something no one imagined would ever be a thing when the games were first changed. Some game series, like Mega-man, stuck with the changes. Some, like Mario, just ignored them. And some, like Sonic, tried to connect them. I actually applaud the American team for trying to come up with an in universe reason for the different names. Their hands were basically tied and they did the best they could.

[@thetruestlordpancakeplays137]

Sonic is like that one kind of friend you have. They were really cool in high school, you had a blast with them, and sometimes think about those old times fondly. These days however, they're 45, still live with their parents, and still think their band "Gym Socks Explosion" has a chance to make it big.

[@lenameyer2921]

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[@fimbulventr522]

I like how in the first cut scene they say sonic is dead and has been for a year, making you think you'll have to go sonicless for a while. Then before you even start the first level, they find out sonic is alive and being tortured and you have to save him. Not even a single level without sonic coming back to life.

[@Renogade]

"Yahtzee is being held in some kind of Escapist facility" I even got paid for this line

[@BLZ231]

Not anymore.

[@MrOrcshaman]

Ironically, the theme of making your own character avatar in this with the pretense that your character is somehow the hero when in reality it just a self insert avatar to make you feel special when the actual characters in the game do all the work, is the same shit they've been trying to force on you in world of warcraft the last 4 expansions, and it doesn't work there either.

[@thetruestlordpancakeplays137]

But you can give them hats. Game of the year!

[@noonenowhere877]

Hey I resent that! My WoW character does plenty of work! It's just that she never gets to kill any of the people that are actually master minding all the shit that forces her to work. Also when Sylvanas blows up shit she has to just sit there like "I know there's some kind of cosmic balance with nature magic cause I did the Druid part of Legion but sure let's blow up this obvious Druidic keystone rather than conquering it that's gonna make the Tauren and Troll Druids on my side happy with me. Made extra annoying when I actually play my Druid, I swear Taurens are like a second class citizen in WoW. Not that I think them gaining the writers attention would be any better I mean they remembered Night Elves and Forsaken exist and look how that turned out.

[@TheNexDude]

The game made by fans is made with more care than the game made by you....... There's a SUPREME issue and shows discordance and a lack of consistency.

[@dr6559]

The Nex Reviews At least we got one good Sonic game.

[@TheNexDude]

Mania was great Forces is just utterly laughable but then saddening at the same time.

[@dr6559]

The Nex Reviews Forces just exists. Not worth love or hate.

[@TheNexDude]

I agree I played it and while I had feeling of it......I wasn't too mad at it. Everything just happens until you reach the credits and turn the game off.

[@walkwithred]

I can’t believe that he has been doing this for more than a decade and is still utterly hilarious each week

[@iriasu1667]

"Senpai noticed me" lol

[@blakkwaltz]

It's sort of meta in a way. we all want to be noticed by someone, and Yahtzee putting in that meme is his way of noticing us.

[@kevinflemming1982]

Fucking weeaboos.

[@jackgebhardt2932]

Kevin Flemming oh, boo hoo.

[@addi543]

Here’s a box of tissues

[@Amaroq64]

"Sonic comes back after the first mission and then you play as him from then on. The devs are so unsure of themselves they won't even stick to the new thing they're trying for more than one level before going back to the old thing they were doing before." Reminds me of Destiny 2. >Welcome to a world without light. For 15 minutes and then you get it back.

[@hubbelizer8412]

Every stereotype about adult sonic fans is based around Chris Chan

[@SycrithTheSquid]

This just got even more unflattering than it already was.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Oh god he's free

[@flamingoodness4923]

I think Sonic's biggest problem right now are the people making the games. Look at sonic mania. it's fresh, interesting, and was a blast from beginning to end. But sonic forces is bland at best. The people making the games are dried out. They're out of ideas, and they don't really know what to do with the series even though people are begging for a sonic adventure 3, playable characters that isn't sonic (being able to fly again as tails, or play as knuckles, shadow, or Amy) or even a boost game without any fluffing. The smart move Sega could make right now is to bring in new workers for a 3d sonic game, let go of the old workers, and create a new team just for classic sonic. It could be called "Genesis team" or something like that. It could coexist with sonic team so they could pump out 2 great games at a time instead of just making bad sonic games

[@mimato8900]

Flamingoodness Sonic Team needs a good chunk of it replaced, they have no idea what they're doing anymore.

[@flamingoodness4923]

That Pyukumuku exactly! If nothing is changed and the same people keep trying and trying, sonic will be stuck in a cycle forever

[@hi-i-am-atan]

+Flamingoodness When Sonic Forces showed how rubbish it was, I instantly realized how much of a wasted opportunity it was for it to be some sort of Sonic Heroes successor. Like, the whole concept is that all of Sonic's friends formed a resistance force against Eggman and are all teamed up, right? And yet _you don't actually see them in gameplay at all._ How cool would it have been to be able to make your custom character Speed, Fly, or Power, then have him form Sonic Hero-style squads with various members of the resistance, with a free play mode that lets you form your team out of any three? Or at the very least, have stages be classified as Speed, Fly, or Power, with the story mode giving you a pre-determined character to play through with and the free play mode letting you pick one from the class. I mean, there could be so much you could do with that concept, like making gimmicky characters that act wildly different from the rest of their class and having unlockable characters. Hell, it'd even provide Sonic Team with a nice avenue for potential DLC - one likely a lower effort than creating bonus levels. And that's just one way for the premise to be spun. It also would've made a great concept for a game akin to either of the Sonic Adventures for a focus on a more concentrated cast, and there's Yahtzee's idea of focusing more on the avatar character. It really is just a huge wage of the concept.

[@lnsflare1]

Point: as I understand it, one of the main complaints about this game, namely the short stages with relatively boring level design, is probably due to the fact that the level design was done by new people rather than Sonic Team Veterans.

[@lnsflare1]

I'd actually love to see a remake of Sonic Unleashed, just with tighter controls for non-boosted Sonic, more constant camera control for WereHog Sonic (with a less jittery camera), and some control and polish tweaks to the WereHog as well (start with a bit of a higher strength stat, make the platforming a bit more precise, give his strikes a bit more volume or rumble feedback, that kind of thing). Also, either save the ritzy and otherwise great Big Band battle theme for larger enemies or add some variety to the track, like new instruments depending on the stage, or have it adapt to the action like the music in Skies of Arcadia. Either that, or just revisit the general mechanics and level design, but replace the WereHog with Ristar altogether, and the Tornado sections with NiGHTS (and NiGHTS-style gameplay). Call it "Sonic All-Star Dream Team, or something along those lines.

[@raulvalencia8573]

“The bloke who invented the .GIF format still pronounces it JIFF and he’s still fucking WRONG!” That my dear Yahtzee, is the biggest mood of the decade.

[@MrMajenta]

Yahtzee gets some things wrong but he gets the important things right

[@notveryniceatall]

You're not funny

[@Jonathan83X]

"Um, wasn't this was supposed to be about our custom protagonist developing into a hero?" "NO! MORE SONIC! DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? SONIC IS THE COOLEST!" And it's that comment right there a big reason why Sonic Forces flopped so badly. It should have been more about our custom OC, but instead SEGA shoves Sonic down our throats yet again, Instead, he plays second fiddle once Sonic returns. So what was the point of the game even having one if Sonic and his classic self was going to steal the spotlight? Seriously, SEGA, the next you have new and creative ideas, FREAKIN USE THEM TO THEIR FULL POTENTIAL! You're making me hate Sonic as a character more and more because I'm sick to death of him being treated as a god and the rest of the cast treated as second rate trash. I know he's the main character and all, but it's time to let the others have a turn for once.

[@CinosTheHedgehog2000]

But then it wouldn't be a SONIC game. I'm pretty sure that SEGA's main goal on creating Sonic games, to let Sonic be the hero and not anyone else.

[@anomalocaris2593]

@@CinosTheHedgehog2000 Then ditch the OC. I only got it for my main man knux

[@Umbra_Ursus]

They could have Metal kill Sonic (FOR FUCKING REAL THIS TIME). Then just spend the rest of the game dealing with the fallout of that. The OC being the new hero out for vengeance, and Metal having an crisis over having fulfilled his sole reason for existing.

[@SaphireKnight87]

@@Umbra_Ursus ​Yeah... they could do that... but that means having an actual good plot line. And that would require actual thinking from the studio. This is why my love for Sonic died a decade ago. And the movie is not going to help. I just wanted to see how badly he'd rip it.

[@Umbra_Ursus]

@@SaphireKnight87 The movie is going to have Jim Carry as Eggman. I'm going to see it just for that. And to be fair, the writing had it's last real go in 06; The plot, motives, and characters were just buried under shit voice acting, gameplay, and... Well, pick something. Same goes for the Adventure's; Good understory, shit game.

[@doibantikov2486]

Jesus Yahtzee, you sounded bloody suicidal by the end of this review when you were talking about the Triple-A industry. Not that that's unrelatable right now. At least Sonic Forces lets you unlock the cosmetics instead of having to buy them.

[@TheJrbdog]

When Sonic Forces still has more integrity than EA...

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

Eh, if you wanna be Furry Joker, you'll have to fork over some cash, but yeah, it isn't that bad...

[@TheLegendaryVGA96]

Ok guys, let's be completely honest here: we all should've known this was not gonna be good from the moment the OC got revealed. It was not only weird, but it also seemed... desperate, like some sort of ditch move to attract as many customers as posible. As a Sonic fan this pains me, since the setting had some decent potential to be interesting (remember that SatAM pulled this off nicely with the tyrant version of Eggman)...but nope, it's just a cringefest (because don't even get me started on Infinite...) Well, at least Mania was good, even though some of the levels were as long as a damn marathon.

[@TheLegendaryVGA96]

ace power You managed to say what I couldn't. Completely agree with you mate, It's very sad that Sonic is such a wasted franchise...

[@RandomTwat]

Actually we knew this wasn't going to be good when more gameplay was showcased.

[@estrogwen]

I had a feeling it was gonna suck the moment classic sonic was revealed, shows even more how desparate they are to make a hit while also having no idea what they're doing

[@ROBOTPETER101]

Its funny, I've seen people say the OC can save the game, even after saying the actual game really isn't that good. But now I get to play a not-good game as a PURPLE SONIC!

[@tek3576]

It's Sega's fault for letting newbies create a game like this(anniversary /big title), and in a year no less. 3 years of concepts and 1 year of development. None of the people who worked on colors or generations worked on this

[@trickyricky4731]

To quote Yatze from a few years ago. "Nobody picks up a Sonic game to play as Sonic's room mate"

[@WoodlandDrake]

Ah yes, thank you Yahtzee; the one point everyone can agree on is that no matter how bad a game is, EA is still synonymous with a video game literally mugging you.

[@SH3LLHeAD]

In all fairness he is only called Eggman as a nickname, he is still called Ivo Robotnik.

[@Rycluse]

I keep on thinking that's a Carbot Zergling on the box art

[@nathangamble125]

I thought that too for a second when I first saw it.

[@ladyer0n199]

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.

[@LordBloodpool]

"Sonic Forces"... us to remember he exists again.

[@endlessoul]

Upvoted for the sole reason of pronouncing GIF correctly.

[@lnsflare1]

That Dude "Gioff"

[@benjaminmcginty6302]

The illustration of the nerd who can't get it up for his pet had me in tears of laughter. Help me.

[@jeremyross9698]

The most important thing I got from this is that it is indeed pronounced "giff" and not "jiff." We can all stop this argument already because the "jiff" crowd is FUCKING WRONG.

[@repeekyraidcero]

Well you see, the creator...

[@count23all]

@@repeekyraidcero who I'm still not convinced didn't do that as a giant troll effort.

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

I remember a comment on Sonic mania say it was his "worst review ever". He was obviously a sonic fan since that award goes to his Hotline Miami 2 and Ori and the forest double review. So I can imagine how that guy is going to feel about this review.

[@richardlionerheart1945]

gotta get a grip

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

la'zergo *Skin Thiccens*

[@richardlionerheart1945]

show some goddam respect or i will non leathaly take down you

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

smug Vagita old school fans are different and less common and Actually have good games. But a lot of the time I come across the modern apologist fans who defend every wrong thing with the whole series no matter what.

[@CyberLink70]

His HM2? Why?

[@ThatGuyKh1]

My favorite line was when he said green hill was lookin like sand hill get it because instead of grass it was sand I actually think it’s the best most well constructed joke of all time since if you look for a deeper meaning you will soon find that I took a shit in Sega’s office

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Well to be fair...

[@robonthecob6920]

Making Sonic kinda serious is a great idea, I'm not kidding. People loved Sonic Adventure. Dramatic Sonic is what made me love it as a kid. So the kids will be floored by the drama and adults will get a good laugh out of it. And if you're lucky, some of the weird adults will be actually interested in the story. Think about it, whenever a Sonic game tries to have a lighthearted and cartoony tone, it sucks or is completely forgettable. It should embrace high stakes cheesiness.

[@tennyoAMV]

Oh dang I didn't think they still did Zero Punctuation anymore. I'm so happy it's still around even if this video is over a year old. XD

[@PjRorke98]

I'm glad you have the right perspective on the gif debate.

[@lixbox69]

i think yatzee might not like this game

[@akiman9368]

Lix BOx Lixbox ya don't say

[@xxghettochild07xx]

You maybe on to something

[@PoisonDuckAnimations]

"At this point, it'd be like taking a giant rampaging hippo engineered from birth to feed on money and trying to wean it onto Hob-Nobs." Yup, that's EA for you.

[@johnwhittington2998]

I've Done it! I've watched every zero production

[@tipsy634]

how do you feel

[@johnwhittington2998]

Natasha Jones proud. And Wet

[@johnwhittington2998]

Meat Box Plays is ready

[@ToaArcan]

>Praises the game for including Classic Sonic to break up the Boost to Win stuff >Doesn't mention that Classic Sonic's gameplay is about as faithful to what made people like Classic Sonic as Sonic 4 was

[@TheLoneLoony]

I want Sega to make a new NiGHTS game. I mean, c'mon, NiGHTS keeps appearing in cameos in other games and as clothing in this game. Give us back our flying purple jester, Sega!

[@keondramcintyre3444]

I honestly want a 3rd Jet Set Radio game.😶

[@owenstephens3389]

Any time I'm upset, I watch my favorite angry Aussie and it all goes away

[@alwaysangry2232]

IF sonic forces gargles spunk, does it make it a Spunkgarglewewee?

[@Tzen03]

For a moment I thought "Bumming the Dog" was a Sonic character.

[@travisretriever7473]

Sonic: why won't this franchise just die already?

[@thepickles8833]

Wow, Yahtzee when into Super Sonic mode on this game. Everything is so bitey and on-point.

[@TheRealXenosapien]

Honestly one of my favorite Yahtz reviews, on the fact that this is one of the few that had me uttering an under-breathed "Jesus fucking Christ, Yahtzee" on several occasions during its runtime. Absolutely ruthless.

[@Hawkent]

Yeah he fucking eviscerated this game

[@Plarby]

the GIF pronunciation earned my like. thank you sir for your service.

[@ccateni28]

They also misadvertisted this game via its villains. Saying they will be a big threat, but all of them are illusions.

[@isaiahgarraway5568]

ccateni 28 Not only that the main villian himself is nothing but ripped from the edgy OC sonic fan fiction you find from deviant art. His back story doesn't help it either or lack there of.

[@ccateni28]

Wait, you serious?

[@poodoodrilldick7757]

ccateni 28 Zero and Shadow are killed off in cutscenes. Its really fucking sad and worse when you realize metal sonics fight is a reskin of infinites

[@dapperblookanimations226]

Isaiah Garraway The prequel comics did things better (considering it had an actual good writer.) Than the game itself. It actually showed eggman finding the ruby and meeting infinite. At this point I don't see why they don't hire Ian Flynn considering he's more than proved himself to be a great sonic writer. Instead they hire people that don't know/understand sonic or don't care at all.

[@dapperblookanimations226]

PooDoo DrillDick It feels like false advertising and a huge wasted opportunity. Imagine the character interaction and insights we could have got if they were real.

[@Montesama314]

It's easy to deal with a game that's straight-up bad: glitchy, unplayable, expensive yet short. You say, "wow, this sucks, but at least there's Sonic Mania" and move on. But when a game with a lot of potential comes out to the public as safe and pathetic, people get pissed off, and I think rightly so. Its problems stand out all the more among any good parts.

[@kyokyoniizukyo7171]

Aye, bad games are forgettable... Yet severely disapointing games are sinful, LOOKING AT YOU COLONIAL MARINES!

[@metahhatem7780]

Is fixing EA possible?

[@avatareternal3204]

Sure. Just fire all the high up folks who see their customers as nothing but sentient wallets to be pillaged and replace them with people who actually care about making quality products.

[@doibantikov2486]

HAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Wait, you're serious aren't you?

[@georgesears934]

Metah Hatem Yes. Have you ever heard of a little town called Nagasaki?

[@eugenideddis]

Of course, anything can be fixed. However it’d be significantly easier just get rid of them altogether.

[@scottski02]

Yes. With a lethal injection

[@Ronnieme2222]

I love ZP so much. These videos are my happy place

[@FatBatCat]

Seems like the only way to “cure” EA is to take it out back, walking behind it, brandishing a revolver as it asks you to ‘tell me about the rabbits.’

[@Wherethehellarewegoing]

01:05 Dear Holy Christ Yahtz!!!!!

[@marcuskwarkus]

0:24 the hedgehog is still cute

[@enzmondo]

I like that it just suddenly got slowly somber and real right before the video finished and Yahtzee was talking about how Ubisoft and EA are shit. I don't know if it was an editing mistake, but whatever happened, I'm all for it.

[@RacingSnails64]

haven't heard yahtzee eloquently shit on a shit game in a while now. feels good.

[@Haukipesukone]

I was expecting a joke along the lines of "Sonic forces himself on someone."

[@Dany21251]

1:25 Is that Coldsteel the Hedgeheg I see?

[@Montesama314]

"Enslaved hot squirrel girls..." Oh, great, now I have bad images of Sally giving Robotnik a "royal greeting."

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

So glad Yahtzee made a review of a realllly bad game. Just like he was talking about on one of his asscreed streams, lots of lame games coming out that are not fun to play but neither have anything that painful to complain about. Just an endless series of boring quests and things to make the player waste as much time possible on the hopes to find some kind of fun somewhere later in the game. Awesome review on this one good sir!

[@Dragonbreaker13]

What do you mean about "realllly bad game"? Are you saying it's the worst game ever or the worst game of 2017 (in your opinion)?

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

As weird as this might sound, I meant bad in a positive sense. Like, you have things to complain and be mad about, other than just a "meh" game that is not interesting to play and have a million chore quests and exploration that doesn't add anything to the game.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

yeah bloody meeeeeh bro

[@JohnA...]

Don't worry they stopped trying to defile the pets, the most recent one stuck to humans... though it was their disabled mother.

[@paulmoitoso9658]

More like Sonic *FORESKIN*

[@Jayshiver]

I think this is the hardest I’ve ever laughed at a video in my life

[@SuperSonic68]

Just to be clear: most hardcore Sonic fans hate this game as well. Shorter, blander and more linear than any of the previous Boost entries and a story that shits all over itself in a feeble attempt to pander to our "nostalgia" when all it does it make we fans scratch our heads in confusion. It really is telling when fans are responsible for the most critically-acclaimed Sonic game in a decade and then Sonic Team releases this turd. Not to mention that they had the gall to not only shoe-horn in Classic Sonic, but to try to claim that the heavy, sloppy, scripted and sluggish "Classic Sonic" you play as in Forces is the very same Sonic that you played as in Mania. It's laughable.

[@ollie4354]

That was absolutely savage. Excellent.

[@driedsalad2946]

My OC fantasies are coming true

[@keklekekle1114]

our*

[@wanderingharlow6305]

I want your OC to be beaten, bloody and bruised.

[@animeducky9]

Only Yatzee could work in a joke about Canesten cream while talking about Sanik the Hedgehog

[@ijustworkhere1008]

Review Doki Doki, cause why not

[@Camkitsune]

Considering it's on Steam for Free, and is very clearly trying a lot harder than the folks that are charging $10 for asset flips... I'd say 'total shit' is relative.

[@RYNOCIRATOR_V5]

yeah that's very unfair 'criticism'

[@bartekkko]

Camkitsune so what's the point reviewing it? Play it yourself. Or do you need your opinions validated this badly?

[@Camkitsune]

bartekko I did; it was alright. The limitations of the engine and general 'budget' nature of the game held it back, but those problems have been rather pronounced in every one of the five or so I've tried playing, and the things it did well, it did exceptionally so. That's why I wouldn't call it 'total shit'. I just feel compelled to point these things out because solipsistic idiots keep making the mistake of conflating their hatred of something with that something being shitty.

[@junjiexie]

He'd probably rip it for "fool me once shame on me etc etc" and conclude "not as spooky as it thinks it is and im still not attracted to these tits" before abruptly switching to another indie VN.

[@ollinslandemusic5887]

Zero Production's videos are the only ones that I know I can like before watching because all his videos are genius 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@micromints1735]

Sonic has been in the 3rd dimension for 19 years. out of this, there has been only 3.5 (Half of adventure 1, 2 and unleashed, and Sonic colours and generations.) that can be considered good out of 10. This means that stastically a good 3d sonic game only comes out once every 5.5 years. Discounting games where half of the game is decent, but the rest is not, this leaves only generations and colours, making it only once every 9.5 years. Shit.

[@brandonontama2415]

Jaqueline McCormack To make matters even worse Colours was 80% 2d.

[@TheJrbdog]

Is Sonic Rush considered a 3d Sonic game?

[@brandonontama2415]

No it was mostly 2d.

[@keenanirwin6702]

Yahtzee would certainly not consider Sonic Unleashed "good". "Sonic Unleashed is so bad, so utterly putrid that I can't even get worked up about it".

[@jeebuskroost3852]

some of those analogies are hilarious

[@andrewlowe3273]

Well i got a three step process on how to fix EA. Step 1: Pour gasoline all over it. Step 2: Light gasoline. Step 3: Toast marshmallow over the burning remains.

[@TheJrbdog]

I'm sorry, but that gasoline can only be earned in a loot box. You also have a chance of getting Fuse 2.

[@Austin_Soares]

Yahtzee as a cat... I don't know why but that is a fitting animal for yahtzee to play as/be

[@buzzmx]

one of your best

[@mharry2464]

You can hear yahtzee's lips smack at 5:07

[@rabbi4skin666]

sonic shut-ins that molest? did Yahtzee know something about Chris-chan that no one else did?

[@Cloudshide]

I want Yahtzee's Fedora-Cat to replace his usual avatar in all future videos.

[@Play_Dreams]

How can people defend this game?

[@lowerclassbrats77]

Joshua Hernandez I enjoyed playing it.

[@charlesgray6385]

Joshua Hernandez Because Fursonas

[@adamfrisk956]

I'm not sure, but I suspect those are the same people that defend Hitler.

[@LSMark]

Joshua Hernandez 'cause maybe it's not a bad game?

[@sailoritaly]

Joshua Hernandez I've heard some people liking it because it's so bad, it's good

[@sirfrunky]

you starve the hippo of money than you place the hobnobs gently near it when it's money begins to deplete.

[@xnimmerx]

I'm so manly, I watch this on x1.5 speed.

[@sethewing2576]

Neat

[@NotMirrors]

x2 you fucking coward

[@Silverparodox]

0.5x to make him sound like a drunk

[@NotMirrors]

NEVER. GOTTA GO FAST. ALL DAY ER'Y DAY.

[@WH250398]

If you don't, than YOU'RE TOO SLOOOW

[@Blayze]

And here I thought your best line would've been "None of this is good, Vector; that's why it's called war."

[@Nikke-nn5mn]

If you liked sonic generations, you are better off replaying it than buying this shit.

[@cpt.shmitt7387]

Don't forget molesting the family dog.

[@rufusconnolly8489]

This is absolutely the best analogy for corporate greed I have ever heard.

[@holynarwhale8729]

Sega should fire Sonic Team and let Christian Whitehead take over sonic.

[@kimyafaye4371]

"My infinite power... "GAAH! OOOH! EEEE! OOOW! OOOO!""

[@ryancarter2959]

Best part of the week

[@methylphenidate1270]

love how it came back to an EA insult #FuckEA

[@isaiahbright7546]

I liked Sonic generations and colours though.

[@HeckDancer]

But what about Sonic Mania? It was fucking amazing for me

[@WH250398]

13HellDancer37 He's probably referencing to Yatzee declaring Colors and Generations being part of the bad 3d games.

[@RogueFox2185]

Generations and Unleashed were awesome too.

[@Maverick2736]

No one should ever feel even remotely ashamed for liking Generations, Colors and/or Mania. Those are the genuinely *_good_* modern ones in the franchise, and it should be more than obvious. Now the people defending Forces, on the other hand...

[@WH250398]

Xavier Langley Disagree on Unleashed. Yes, some of the daytime stages are good, but forcing myself through those awful nighttime stages wasn't worth it for me.

[@wellonable]

sharpest and wittiest jokes in the game review genre by a mile.