Why Does Gaijin Hate Sweden? - War Thunder

[@SkunkdMonk]

I LOVE the Swedish tech tree. The CAS and BR gaps do suck, but I haven't really felt any suffering because of it. The Finnish addition was a welcome relief to the ground tree. I feel its still leagues better than trying to grind Japan or Italy. I do hope for more Nordic nations to be added to it though, make it even better.

[@user-sg9ql8nk1u]

1 part i love abt the br gap is the fact that u skip 6.0 and jump from 5.7 straight to 7.7,meaning u aint going to suffer :D

[@emanuele9337]

Italy is a meme and it's very funny, but as soon as you get to American tanks (m26) up to of40 you don't have decent tanks, the only exceptions are aubl and fiat

[@flekovich]

They should replace scout drones on light tanks in Sweden with the Norwegian UAV Keep the same size for hitbox, but it's just harder to see and hear

[@user-sg9ql8nk1u]

@@flekovich that would create unbalance and an unfair advantage,can even gove birth to swede bias

[@TeterPiago123]

Yeah, I was playing germ. and up to 6.7 I had enough. When I saw swedish top tier, I was like hell yeah.

[@WintersHarmony7474]

The 103's are best played as snipers. But you cannot snipe accurately whatsoever because of the shaky aiming no matter what terrain you're on.

[@ravenouself4181]

that ust be live-game thing, because i haven't noticed it in the preview drive

[@vast9467]

they’re meant to be mbts so maybe try that

[@apple3505]

@@vast9467 nah g

[@allorfh2495]

@@vast9467 nah they are meant to be defensive ditch snipers

[@Fredrik-ru5wc]

@@allorfh2495 no they were designed as MBT to do MBT stuff along the 104 and 105

[@9000tommygun]

Gaijin hates Sweden so much that they gave their ground forces tech tree more (and better) Leopard 2's than Germany

[@Divinarium1]

Have you not seen how horrible their airforce is? Not seen how horrible the grind to get the leopard is?

[@Suneaa]

Also the Strv 122 should have better gen thermals on gunner sight. It was proved

[@creforce]

weeell if your german I understand your frustration... eithers sweden bought the M1 abrams but it was to loud and was not a good pick for the swedish forrest. the stupid T-80U came in after we already decided and the price went to Leopard 2 for sweden. GERMANY already knew sweden bought the tank but would NOT even be close to the original way. Sweden is known to take in stuff, put them in side out take everything that is'nt working for sweden and put in superior systems and other things sooo. yes the Strv 122/ Strv 122 PLSS is an upgraded superior tank then the german leopard. Germany is a great military nation don't get me wrong, but selling Leopards 2 to sweden it's like giving a car to pimp my ride.... a 2 million EU worth of tank became 3.5 million EU worth of tank. and thats sweden for you we upgrade it for OUR country and in the process we make them better

[@touchmeharder1737]

​@@creforce This video didnt age well. Seeing how as of now 12-15-23 sweden got 6 tanks with spall liners, and 5 of them have excellent coverage. Overall im please i Ditched US for a nation treated much better. And my next nation is USSR and im buying the 2s38 and the Turms

[@creforce]

@@touchmeharder1737 Sweden has some great stuff and great tech. And the core is German yes. I would love to play Russia myself but playing Russia in my opinion is just Lame. Who needs spall liners when a f-ing bmp can take a 800 mm of pen in the side from a rocket and still survive? How can you shoot out pilot of Russian planes when they can still fly? Nah I rather play all of those shermans all over agian then Playing Putin loving Russia

[@stone1er371]

" Why Does Gaijin Hate Sweden? " Thats the neat part , they dont xD

[@Arthur_Neves]

They do

[@stone1er371]

@@Arthur_Neves true sweden suffers ( Edit 1 : How ? ) ( Edit 2 : cant wait for the TEC video talking about gaijin hate on germany , Usa and the soviets lmao )

[@el_tio_Harry]

Mf they don’t. Lightly armoured shitboxes with high penning sabot rounds at 1.7 is not gajin hating on you it’s the f* opposite

[@Arthur_Neves]

@@el_tio_Harry seems like u never played sweden. Having sabo in 1.0 is straight up shit, aphe is simply entirely best in this tier, since there is nothing with more than 30mm of armour. 37mm sabo also does no damage, specially after recent updates

[@Achillobator85]

@@Arthur_Neves all your tanks from 7.3 have laser range finders and good guns. sweden is one of the best tech tress in the game

[@nikolasfoulger1127]

Though i dont play sweden, If they can fix the aiming on the Strv 103, I'd love to see the Strv-103D added to the game, would make a great final addition to the cheese wedge family, with its composite screens and thermal optics

[@klxnone1014]

I’m a Soviet main and have started playing Sweden for a bit now and it’s really not bad at all.

[@Dumahlok]

I bought the Swedish Sherman 3/4 when it came out , to grind early ranks . Been having the most fun at BR3.7 with Sherman, t34 and panzer4

[@tigerbesteverything]

did someone miss the 1.2sec 120mm doom launcher?

[@hansgruber3064]

The shame with the Sherman, panzer IV and T-34 line up is none of the tanks are actually Swedish. But that’s the line up I use to do the Swedish events bar the Sherman. I might get the Swedish Sherman when it comes up on sale just so I can have a Sherman for ever nation. The removal of the SAV 20.12.48 has got to be another indication that the snail hates Sweden, that thing helped me get to rank 3.

[@jspene]

@@hansgruber3064nah, they added it for a mini-event in January (?) but due to popular demand they brought it back for another mini event at the end of May. If they hated Sweden they wouldn’t have brought it back

[@BlackPhantom_II]

@@tigerbesteverything Not at all

[@SkunkdMonk]

they will bring the SAV back every once in a while. when it pops back up grab it as fast as you can. makes the 3.7 line up so much fun.

[@a_random_viewer_7169]

As far as the ground tree goes... I mained Sweden since release... it's arguably my favorite tree in game.. had every tank in the tree and almost all aced crews and it was a phenomenal line up.. the air tree just lacks CAS

[@simon_figas1699]

Norway being added to the Swedish tree would be so nice as a second sub tree.

[@sienihemmo]

They should just do away with the sweden designation and change it to a "nordic" tree entirely, and include danish vehicles in addition to norway.

[@creforce]

I cannot agree more cause the Cv 90s you guys have are fucking cool looking

[@bigyeet8905]

Full nordic tech tree is really cool

[@martin7002]

No only sweden stop taking cred from swedish army

[@martin7002]

@@sienihemmono it should only be sweden🇸🇪🇸🇪

[@dan_halfsvear]

You really should have brought up the fact that all Viggen are incorrect. They have to low amount of hardpoints and way limited loadouts options compare to the real thing.

[@cairok2097]

I don't really consider that to be the biggest issue with the Viggens, for me its their completely incorrect top speed and acceleration. The JA37 variants with the RM-8B engines are missing over 1000kgf of thrust and 300kph faster top speed due to gaijins miscalculation. And for the AJ variants, the AJ37 has incorrect thrust but the new AJS37 has the correct thrust even though they both share the same engine. Theres a video explaining gaijins miscalculation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2LTZ4SGq66Zoqc

[@dan_halfsvear]

@@cairok2097 and that too. There's so many things wrong. Lot of their cold war tanks and later were amphibious too. Not ingame

[@elitesnipergenj3093]

The swedish 8.3 lineup works very well I have been called various slurs playing it

[@GrundleLongDong]

The 11.7 lineup is even more stupid lmao I have been called many many heretical things, mostly by Russian players who aren’t used to being absolutely assblasted by the best leopard in game with better survivability than Zeus on cocaine, better firepower than a twitch streamer with aimbot and the lineup fortitude of Jesus, as once your first best tank in the game is destroyed you can immediately bring out the exact same fucking tank again… just a bit sooner than 3 days later

[@BlenderWeasel]

Also Finland should get the MiG 15 and F-18.

[@Kanalankettu]

STUGS, KV1, BMP 1 & 3, Patria for GB.

[@martin7002]

Finland should not be in war thunder

[@Arthur_Neves]

Of if i had to say, biggest problem for sweden is matching ground with cas. It dont have a lot of brs to choose to play, but the ones it has, its hard to find both tanks and planes at it. And you know, swedish cas is in generall lacklustre, so uptiering planes dont go well

[@Gabe_Can]

as a Sweden main, i hated Sweden cause i would make no money from 7.0 and above with sl amounts varying, and it's been fixed a little bit but Sweden has so many problems that I hope get fixed. So, i love seeing someone talk about Sweden and its problems.

[@bottoms_up2175]

Swedish planes from rank 4 to rank 7 lost me enough SL to buy 6 or 7 top tier vehicles, and even after repair costs got reduced a bit, there are still games where I lose 1000s of SL. Take J34 (Swedish Hunter) for an example, it's at 9.0 where as G 91s are at 8.7, have better flight performance in almost all aspects and carry 2x more missiles. That same J34 can face R-60M (Su25), 9L (A-10), 9J (German Hunter), 9E (F-4C), 7D (F-4C), R-3R (Mig21) and R-60 (Yak38), all without flares or chaff.

[@CoolBluBoi]

I'm a Swedish Main at 3.7, and this video really increased some insight on the nation. I have noticed that whenever I do have a good match, I still end up not getting the best amount of silver lions due to the repair costs, and it really slows down the process to get the Finnish Panzer 4, because of vehicle cost as well as crew training.

[@azab0b]

Sadly you really need a premium accound if you want to progress in any meaningful way

[@victorkalkowski877]

Give up now. Please. Save your self

[@starfireix8207]

Video: "Why does Gaijin hate Sweden?" Meanwhile British mains:

[@Suneaa]

Still waiting for better gen thermals for gunner view in Strv 122's since it is proved and documented that they have same thermals as commander view.

[@Thunder-pain]

They definitely don't hate Sweden, one of the best nations

[@rynkky183]

true, but there is vehicles that is over battlerated. like lvkv9040c. 10.0 anti air. slow prox shells. low lock range. 24 mag. slow reload. every other anti airs are just better at 10.0.

[@jackwalters5506]

While it performs well at certain BRs, it has huge gaps, entire br ranges which rely on a broken mechanic, and an awful low tier grind

[@BurningChappi]

Gaijin hate sweden? Sweden is superior and overpowered in every BR above 5.7, Bkan and Vidar are a pain in the ass. They survive hits which should ammo rack them way to often.

[@BlenderWeasel]

Sweden needs a Fleet!!

[@bottoms_up2175]

Swedish rank 4 to rank 7 planes lost me so many SL that I could have bought at least 6 or 7 top tier vehicles. In some I have K/D over 1 (I know, shocking for how badly the planes were treated by Gaijin) and yet all the kills and medals in battle still couldn't cover insane repair costs, even after repair cost decrased, some planes are still simply dog shit and I still lose 1000s of SL after a match.

[@peterlacey5187]

bro wasnt even using hull aiming in the 103

[@irontank1236]

is that why his aiming was so messed up, i see people complain all the time about hull aim but i have literally never had an issue with it and absolutely love it

[@supervelocejota63]

0:37 Gaijin: “can we fix it? YES WE CAN. Will we fix it? NO WE WONT!”

[@bjrnegillarsen1380]

There is a good reason the swedish navy is missing, they haven't had anything close to a proper navy since the days of Carl XII...

[@Merecir]

In WW2 the German navy advised against invading Sweden because in their estimation they could not protect the invasion force from the Swedish navy.

[@tyrannicswinen117]

“Gaijin hates Sweden” Yet they’ve added more content to them than France, Italy, Japan combined since they were added to the game

[@Arthur_Neves]

U gotta be joking right

[@Cythil]

Well... France, Italy and Japan also had a lot stuff. So even if you claim is true, which I am not sure it is, and I am to lazy to check, it not that odd. At least if you want to bring them up to parity with at least the other minor nations. Of course, in the end, nations like France and Japan will likely have more stuff. Though with sub-nations being added this change things a bit. But even so France should have a lot of unique stuff comming to it.

[@Anonymouzor]

go grind sweden up to around BR 8 and you will get our sentiment

[@xenuko]

"why gaijin hate every nation which isnt ussr"

[@commandoepsilon4664]

I don't play Sweden, but from what I've seen of their tanks they have three kinds: 1) The bad tanks that just aren't good (This is mostly supposition as bad tanks aren't generally played so I won't see them, but I'm sure some Sweden mains could point some out.) 2) The BS tanks (Things like the U-SH, STRV-103, SAV20.12.48, if you fight against Sweden you'll know if a vehicle fits this category.) 3) Other nations tanks I certainly wouldn't say Gaijin hates Sweden, they have quite a few vehicles in the 2nd category and most of their borrowed tanks are really good. Sure they don't have a lot of vehicles or good CAS, but it isn't like they are significantly behind any of the other minor nations.

[@Cythil]

Part of it of course is that Sweden in the real world has had either very odd experimental stuff that may work or may not work. And experimental here do not mean it did not become wildly adopted (even if Sweden also have a lot of stuff that never became wildly adopted). But stuff that do go against conventional ideas. Often very niche stuff like the STRV-103 which was made specifically for a type of war that Sweden expected to fight. And when Sweden did not do that, then Sweden often did just buy from a tank from another nation. If you're following the standard meta (or rather, as it called in military terms, standard doctrine) why develop your own platform when there all ready something well develop from some other nation? Of course, Sweden tend to modify those tanks, making them unique from the standard. So part of it is that the nation did not follow the same sort of doctrine as most western block nations, or most eastern block nations. But made its own path. And that has a lot to do with it natural status, combined with being a rather small country. Therefore, having a limited amount of resource to spend on its defence. Though during the Cold War Sweden had the 4th largest air force in the world. So despite it size, it punched well above it weight class. Of course, with the inclusion of sub-nations, Sweden can be fleshed out a bit more. But this will likely just mean we will see more tanks from other nations, bigger nations. Since nations like Finland did adopt weapons from either east or west rather than developing their own. This would be even more the case with Norway and Denmark if they get the same treatment since unlike Sweden and Finland, these nations were not neutral but part of NATO. There is also a possibility that one would add other neutral European countries to Sweden. But I am pretty sure that we will see a more Nordic/Scandinavian bend be the key theme. Maybe later on adding the Baltic States, but the Baltic States were a part of the USSR for a very long time, and they later adopted a more NATO standard. So I do not know. Sweden is the country that has the most unique military in the area, and that is part of the draw. With Finland, I would say coming after. And of course what makes Sweden unique is also why it breaks with standard doctrine. It is both what gets people interested in Sweden, and what holds it back.

[@NotImportant791]

Most all of Swedish tanks have some quirks which are imperative to learn to work around, example being the Pvkv 4's turret traverse, but once you learn how to compensate properly for it Swedish vehicles can be an extremely formidable foe. Coming back around to the Pvkv 4 analogy, once you understand how to play it you can use it to its full potential with its sabot and aphe, moreover this goes for most "bad " tanks not in the sense that you can use its sabot and aphe, seeing as not all tanks get those shells let alone both of them, but that once you know how to play you should preform pretty well. In regards to the BS tanks, they are just blatantly OP 🤣. And finally I would certainly say with confidence that that Sweden is the largest nation, minus the big three (duh), in the game. What is mean by this is that Sweden is the largest "minor" nation.

[@Lillspratt]

Give me correct ir camera. Give me realistic strf 90 reload. Fix spalling on strv122. Give aim 120. Fix viggen radar. Give dubble feed for strf 90. Fix driver hatch spall and armor on strv 122. Fix spall on cannon breach on strv 122. And make the T series accually die when u shoot their ammo. Fix hull aiming. AND GIVE THE STRV 103 ITS 2.5 SEC RELOAD. Oh yea make the strf 90 apfsds accually hit the target, instead of just dissapearing.

[@hrsmp]

Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that which I desire

[@spray916]

Why the fuck do you want the 122 buffed? Its already the best MBT in the game.

[@tigerbesteverything]

i could say the same thing for france... Give them their most potent vehicles, rounds, reloads, fix the radars, fix their armament, implement the excocet, the mica, the ofl120 f2, f1b, f2b, cotac, etc. Gaijin refuses to get any nation better tech than the top 3 even if they actually has.

[@thatoneguy1741]

Same can be said for any nation that’s not US Germany or Russia

[@o-hogameplay185]

"And make the T series accually die when u shoot their ammo." then make it for ALL other tanks too. Not just those have this, but ALL 2 piece ammo fireing tanks. Same goes for tanks that have ammo not modelled individually, but either full racks as 1, or in smaller groups, like 2, 3, and so on.

[@wifi_soldier5076]

I like how adding finland was just copy and paste tanks already in game....

[@jspene]

Not to mention how some of them are literally just filler that don’t have any other vehicle say it’s BR in the tree (like the Charioteer)

[@chillglobe]

but the T55m’s apfsds penetration better than Russia or the Chinese one, it even looks cool because of the stock camo.

[@NotImportant791]

@@jspeneThe Charioteer is 6.3, which is the exact same as the Pbv 501? Even while only having one tank at the same BR it fits perfectly fine in a 6.7 lineup.

[@Rythblaqk]

I personally love the 103s, Hullaim has it's quirks but once you figure them out you can be extremely effective.

[@mikkel066h]

Think Sweden should get some Danish vehicles as well. That way they can get some CAS planes such as the F-16

[@Amexel]

Half the swedish jets are overtiered

[@Mornomgir]

What i find the most annoying is that they added finland before even adding a fraction of the available swedish vehicles. I cant wrap my head around how that tech tree is gonna end up looking if they are gonna roll in some special danish-norwegian stuff alongside 8 times the amount of actual swedish vechiles they could stick in there. For all tech trees that it. Even though the naval ones will be abit on the wonky side.

[@Laconianarms]

correction why did they hate sweden as of recent gaijin has been giving sweden nothing but love and attention

[@Piglady00]

no. Sweden is even better than the soviet tech tree

[@ReviveHF]

This is the only meme video made by EC.

[@tuananhlenguyen4899]

“Why dose Gajin loves Russia ? “ pls

[@el_tio_Harry]

No players hate Sweden. The majority of my team kills are people playing Sweden

[@zzebiasse4258]

The A32 series are good planes but bad BR placement

[@PaladinKhoronis]

As a Sweden main I agree that shell grinding is horrible - before you unlock your best tier-4-shell you're useless. Thankfully it's only through ranks 1-4. After that you get stock APDS on your tanks and it's much easier (except T-54 that almost made insane when I was shell grinding it). And Sweden is very strong once you get the best shells unlocked.

[@feraltrafficcone4483]

For me, my thing is how they nerfed hull aim. It takes so painfully long to raise/lower the gun now

[@uniquescorpions4802]

I cannot agree with this analysis, I’ve always seen people playing Sweden in the top 1-3 every match. ESPECIALLY with the Mi-28a they have, why is the Russian mi-28n a 1.0 Br higher? Thermals should only make it at worst a .7 higher Br, otherwise they’re identical

[@GrundleLongDong]

Sweden is one of the best nations in the game as someone who plays them a lot mostly at top tier It’s literally Germany on steroids

[@SkunkdMonk]

AA missles.

[@NotImportant791]

IMO Sweden is the best nation in the game ( my opinion), but indisputably it has the best top tier of any nation in the game. And being that Sweden is a minor (drake be licking his lips rn) nation that often means that it comes with more experienced players.

[@0li945]

I’m Swedish main and I got to top tier but now I wait.

[@Fliegerfisch]

Sweden doesnt get flares up to 10.3 . .

[@CarolusR3x]

bruh I saw the B18B go from 3.0 to 3.3, then 3.7 to 4.0... that thing didn't deserve such treatment.

[@AlexW-m7m]

The 5.7 ''lineup'' is misery, grinding for the 7.7s is either painfully slog through with 5.0/4.0s for non uptier hell, or use the 5.7s and be sent to 6.7 every match without fail

[@NotImportant791]

The Swedish 5.7 lineup is perfectly fine in my opinion, its one of the best that i've played at the very least. But let's talk tanks, You really can't complain about the T-34-85, the PT-76, A21A-3 (CCRP pog), or the Lvkv 42. So where I believe you are finding difficulties is it the Comet 1, Strv m/42 DT, and maybe the Strv 74. So I'm going to try and help you with these tanks. In regards to the Comet 1 you must always understand that you have almost no armor and no mobility, minus the neural steering which is epik, while all of these are very bad you do get sabot (yippe!). It is quite important to keep this in consideration at all times when playing this tank, what i usually do is either snipe or ambush if ever possible. With the Strv m/42 Delat Torn it will greatly help to understand your tank, with middle of the road mobility, zero armor, and a 3.2 second auto loader the Delat Torn is an extremely unique tank. Anything that hits you should rightfully one-shot you as you have the hull of a 2.7 tank and your turret armor reflects that. it is also most important to keep in mind you will out reload any tank you face on the battlefield, so it is extremely optimal to instate ambush tactics as it will be extremely effective with your aphe. And lastly with the Strv 74 it is ideal to avoid playing lt, but if you must it is best to exploit its possession of scouting capabilities because every other feature of this tank is quite suboptimal. With a extremely bad turning radius, crap armor (same hull as the Delat Torn), very high and thin profile, and horrible mobility it is a shock that I see it in games still. Its only good features don't come close to redeeming enough, them being having -15° of depression, having an okay aphe shell, and having a 7.7 roof mg (unheard of in the Swedish TT). i have found the only way to have a half decent time is it hide like a coward behind a hill just scouting things until you have the SP for a plane. TL;DR: leverage your strengths in each tank

[@Zaeryth_Redtail]

Idk i feel like Sweden is really strong. Especially now with the Finnish additions that bolstered a lot of lineups. 3.7 is Especially a menace and the 103s are really powerful at their br if they're positioned right. Most Swedish players are experienced too which doesn't help

[@Divinarium1]

airforce is bad and grind is abysmal probably why only skilled players grind it

[@rpscorp9457]

103s are trash tier tanks.

[@flekovich]

103s are now basically useless after they got moved up

[@DarthPraennox]

@@Divinarium1Skill issue. I get 3+ kills in each air rb game i play in whenever i play a j/a21 or t18. Early jets are just opportunistic hunters - stay out of sight and youll be golden

[@thedogdothedog]

Well they did not add finland - the vichles finland use are from sweden and created in sweden - they just bught vichles from sweden thats why they got the flag on some planes-tanks

[@aragon2108]

i mainly play sweden at 3.7 to 4.0 bc i am one lucky mf to get the sav and 3/4 for birthday and to round it up with ikv103 with heatfs is rlly funny. fast agile vehicles with an ok to huge pen.

[@theDarkside798]

At least they have a really great Toptier Lineup, not like germany, the original leopard nation.

[@theDarkside798]

@@Skinny6539 thats what i said

[@chillglobe]

i really wish they would add the Danish tech tree in the game, the Centurion Mk5/2 DK, M41DK and the Leopard 1a5DK would be interesting to see.

[@AdaaDK]

It would only make sense as addon to the swedish or german trees to be fair.

[@madsstentoft3140]

i think it would fit best in the swedish tech tree tbh@@AdaaDK

[@martin7002]

Nah

[@martin7002]

@@madsstentoft3140denmark does not deserve to be in the game, neither finland, norway

[@Fantom_4C1]

@@martin7002 Wth is ur issue its a game also its ment to balance stuff out also finland is in game

[@Kreicss]

Latvian subtree to sweden would be nice, but mostly in low br's

[@NotImportant791]

A Latvian subtree would be amazing to see in war thunder, but I cant find enough tanks for it to be likely yet i did still find some contenders! they go as following: - Vickers 4-ton light tanks (similar to the mk. e found in the swedish tree) - T-55AM2 - BRDM-2 - CVR(T) Keep in mind that these vehicles, if added, would likely not go to the Swedish tree but rather the Soviet or even German tree 😔

[@pierluigiadreani2159]

I am gonna have so much fun when you make this video about Italy

[@pilot_bruh576]

Sweden rn is just war thunder in advanced mode its easier to grind yet has more difficult playstyles dowsnt mean war thunder hates it it's just that it's hard to find the line between "is this vehicle good for 5.0 is it good for midtier or toptier?"

[@prestongarvey2285]

Where the tracers gone even if it’s not historically accurate give us them we have no way to learn how to use them

[@Kaiberus]

the only thing gaijin hates about sweden is hull aiming

[@downwindfish1]

Sweden main here, Gaijin doesn’t hate Sweden, they’ve neglected other minor nations and just given Sweden a ton of new OP toys over the past couple updates, but it does have some big problems that gaijin seems to not care about, most of which this video covered well I really don’t like the way they handled adding Finland, yes it added some nice new vehicles that rounded out some lineups that were lacking but it kind was all copy and paste with only a few original Finnish designs Also Germany mains love to talk about the 2A6 being in the tree, and I agree with them, but I don’t think the problem is that the 2A6 is in Sweden, it’s that Germany hasn’t gotten the 2A7 yet, or anything else to help out their top tier lineups

[@alex190alex]

They should rename Sweden into The Nordic Country tech tree or some other title like that and add in Norway, Denmark, and Iceland. It'd make the tech tree pretty much as powerful as the main nations if not even more powerful.

[@Mornomgir]

Or just stick all the swedish vehicles in them and make a seperate nordic one.

[@Anonymouzor]

that would be really cool

[@zzeeezz1288]

That would be dumb since all Nordic nations apart from Sweden buys their military vehicles from USA. If a nation doesn’t have unique and new vehicles it won’t be added. I do think Denmark and Norway should be added just like they did with Finland tho.

[@alex190alex]

@@zzeeezz1288 could've just said that Iceland would be pointless and add nothing of greater value to the game. Out of all three Iceland definitely would be the most pointless, but you can never 100% rule out a nation, if there is a way to monetize gaijin will do it.

[@flekovich]

​@@alex190alexGaijin can't monetize what doesn't exist

[@HomoDarwinus]

I bought CV90 and now I am free. Cancer tree.

[@Connor22Abrams4]

Trying to grind low tier Sweden is a fucking pain.

[@jspene]

Yeah lol. Things don’t get competitive until 7.3. Until then just rely on Finnish vehicles like the Pz 4 and the T-34-85 to grind with and ignore most of the actually Swedish vehicles. Or you could buy the Swedish Sherman or if you have it use the SAV 20.12.48

[@pilot_bruh576]

True 7.3 is decent for sweden since we get laser range finders and a full stab vehicle

[@user-ld6is4ni3d]

How? The both strv 42s are extremely good for their br, and the dt goes into downtiers very often. Also the l62.... getting 10+ kills at 2.3 Sweden is pretty common

[@Roguecjb]

I didn't know saffering until I got to 2.7 and had to grind for the sabot rounds for those tanks, holy fuck that was awful, they ended up being pretty good after though

[@StryderFi]

@@user-ld6is4ni3d The EH is garbage wtf are you talking about lmfao

[@chickensya]

Yes I agree, gaijin does hate Sweden. *I cry facing 1970s tanks in my T44*

[@felixsomething1495]

As a swede Who plays sweden im just happy they added my country that hasnt been in a war since the 1800s. I would like them to add the navy tho. Also glad to see The finns represented. Im sure they Will fix the problems with the game

[@martin7002]

Sverige har alltid haft en stark armé och att vårt luftvapen är med är en självklarhet. D är en skam att finnarna ens få ha nå militär i spelet

[@oskarnilsson0712]

The title made me instantly start watching this video

[@Rojek-ls3dl]

strv 103A and C were like almost 11k repair which was more than Strv122

[@jspene]

Good, I hate those things. Impossible to kill frontally without getting lucky or using HESH (yes I know you can get the transmission and then flank but they are usually sitting at the back of the map, not to mention the one crew member operation ability) and most players cover themselves in bushes to show off they have no respect for themselves or others.

[@commandoepsilon4664]

@@jspene lol, killing them with HESH. Whenever I fire HESH at them it ricochets, how does HESH ricochet off of ribbed armour at 60 degrees? IDK, ask Gaijin.

[@charliezw3287]

Now this is how you get views

[@FlamieDoc]

Sweden 8.0 is HELL, not cuz the tanks are bad but cuz 8.0 as a br doesnt exits and you aleays have to figjt 8.7-9.0 tanks, ive played 40 matches at 8.0 and all have been uptier with germany on my team

[@NotGrimman]

top tier sweden has almost as many leo 2s as germany

[@Divinarium1]

good tanks but horrible grind + terrible airforce

[@Heinz4455]

well Gaijin hate everyone that not Russian because they want to win war at some point even it fantasies one.

[@HarryLeBerry]

I started to main sweden when i first started cuz i didnt wanna be one of those "OMG AXIS / ALLIED POWERS TEAM" People. pluss J-21 looked sick. and... i stopped at 5.0 cuz i couldnt afford repair costs. Swedish tanks are TRASHED on by WW2 Bias tanks.

[@ArcticSnow930]

Saying they hate sweden is a bit 2 far, more like blind or simply not thinking about it still a few vehicles they can add from swedish vehicles which isn't really here yet for some reason after that they've somehow not added a single Patria vehicles for Finland

[@animeiphone8510]

wheres the why does gaijin hate Israel video

[@janovmi2]

the wobly Strv TDs are completly unusable for me, the ywoble way too much no matter what, you may sit still and you are still wobling,you try to aim, you are wobling its insanely flustrating

[@challengerrr362]

Thing is, Sweden suck only in low to early mid BR. They always start out with solid shot and the grinding is extremely painful. It's basically the UK experience part 2. Not to mention how unreliably bouncy their guns are and the fact that they have a weird attraction to open-top vehicles. Every fighter is a nightmare. If you ever played an IKV103 and a bomb even touches the other part of the map, you have a 99% chance to explode. I'd wager this whole abomination stops at around 7.0 when you get some better tanks. But yeah. I'm currently playing the Delat Torn and I'm having a horrible experience. Everything kills you and I can't even flank since everyone sees me in Arcade, especially the Panther/Tigerwave that 5.7 is mostly turning out to be. So yeah, I'm hoping things get better later on.

[@DarthPraennox]

Thats your fault then for playing arcade. Sweden is an rb orientated tech tree (super low br thermals and laser rangefinder) and has no armor, which is what you need to play arcade.

[@challengerrr362]

@@DarthPraennox I think it's quite unfair to lock out an entire nation from an important game mode. Everyone should be able to play any nation in any game mode they want. That's the beauty of picking your own path and sticking to it - something that Gaijin clearly doesn't understand considering their focus on USA, USSR and Germany.

[@DarthPraennox]

@@challengerrr362Yes, I realize that it's unfair, but that's how the game is right now. I'm not trying to be too pessimistic, but this is just how it is right now for Sweden ground forces.

[@challengerrr362]

@@DarthPraennox Don't worry about it man. It's not your fault whatsoever. I appreciate your feedback as well. Good luck on the game!

[@DarthPraennox]

@@challengerrr362Thanks! Just had an 11 kill game in the T18B(57). I love that plane

[@Hatsuzu]

Sweden should never have been added

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

Why would we like them

[@xdgamer0189]

next maybe one for israel as they are just getting shafted

[@unlockingsnow73]

They do?

[@shijikori]

latest update is just worse for Sweden.

[@SuiSideex]

Sweden? ok

[@inflamedzero4994]

One month without war thunder and I feel great😊

[@Littlefish1239]

K9 vidar 🇳🇴🇰🇷💪💪

[@illegalaryan823]

I dont know why you guys have trouble with the strv 103 maybe your controls are wrong because mine is super smooth and I can accurately hit where I want it doesnt jerk around like in the video here. Weird.

[@tahsinpasha5205]

I have the answer... Gaijin is russian.. And swedennis trying to get into NATO😂

[@bendeguzmolnar6832]

Why sweden sucks 💀 … the strongest and easiest tech tree in the game and this experienced and very good player can say it sucks… you are literally talking about the strongest and furthermore the esiest to grind I just dont understand what can be bad …

[@chost-059]

Where is the swedish M1a2??? Where is the swedish leclerc??? Gaijin needs to listen!!!

[@Rempai420]

That's a naughty line up. 3 Leopards an Abrams and a Leclerc.

[@quan-uo5ws]

i hope they dont actually add them, the swedish t80u is ridicilous enough

[@godzillagodofdestructionan4024]

Do you really think the USA mains are gonna let Sweden have their abarms when they don't want china to get the Taiwan abarms and thinks that the abarms should be a exclusive only to USA TT

[@Herra_X]

Just no. I remember someone wanting a swedish king tiger because it was used for testing. I agree with quan-uo5ws here. The swedish T80U was ridiculous and should have not been added. I think one of the finnish T-72 finmods would have been more interesting and better for a squad tank. Also the Mi-28A for sweden is a joke. To mu knowledge it never entered in to sweden for testing. They literally just looked at it and a swedish test pilot sat in the gunner seat and this was enough for gaijin to add it for sweden as an attack helicopter. Dont add the leclerc and m1 abrams because that would be retarded and idiotic and there is no point. Swede mains and seethe and cope.

[@Rempai420]

@@godzillagodofdestructionan4024 If every country can have an F16 then every country can have their free Abrams.

[@AgentAlex96]

Rep rep rep

[@DrFrogglePhD]

Go back to Twitch with your pasta tanks!

[@chost-059]

+1 rep

[@UltravisionaryTAB]

If you really think Sweden bias doesn't exist, you're blind, Sweden has two vehicles that shouldn't be in their tech tree, that being the T-80 Squadron vehicle and the Mi-28A, both never operated by Sweden outside of a evaluation, then we have the fact Sweden was given the top tier German MBT, has Top down ATGMs at 8.3, and Tow missiles at 7.7, alongside having more tech tree leopard 2's then Germany itself, and a very powerful AA, you also have the U-SH a mobile rocket spam machine, the Strv-103, which is immortal if played correctly.

[@rpscorp9457]

What ATGM carrier do they have at 8.3??

[@UltravisionaryTAB]

It was the PBV 302, but that was before the decompression, however now its just more OP, because its fighting leopard 1 and T-54 as well as what it used to fight.@@rpscorp9457

[@NotImportant791]

⁠@@rpscorp9457He could of been talking about the Strv 81 (RB 52) but i have no clue other than that

[@rpscorp9457]

@@NotImportant791 Dude was just tweeking out lol)

[@NotImportant791]

@@rpscorp9457 He just has a shit ton of copium

[@NuhuhTM]

to anyone saying that gaijin doenst hate sweden, start playing sweden and see your M/95 bounce off a T-80 machine gun and you'll change your mind

[@DrFrogglePhD]

One day soon, TEC will meet his downfall and the Age of Freeman will rise!!!!

[@Fideli-88]

I love sweden tree. 3.2 br is fire got my first nuke with it

[@Fantom_4C1]

you cant get a nuke at that br..

[@kingmarre9130]

I dont even know why we even have attack helicopters when Sweden or Finland in real life dont. Sweden had a great Navy so yes i want the Swedish Navy