How Robb & House Stark Could Have Won the Game of Thrones

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks for the Love folks! You can find our next video over here for Patreon Subscribers :) patreon.com/TheFandome

[@tim-myton6361]

Why do people have to be so awkward with fair use? Seriously screw HBO. And thanks for the great work guys.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Tim! We learned all too late that they don't seem to like those tiny clips where it's also audio from the show (despite us using them completely out of context and usually as a punch line) Shame they nailed this one though, be long time before another video gets close to 1 million views but we won't give up. Thanks for the support Tim! Liam

[@Lordgrayson]

From what I know it becomes harder for their lawyers to defend the copyright against actual violations when they normalize allowing their content to be used in any way that could be argued to just be a reposting of a clip. That's often why these takedowns get submitted manually even though it's clearly fair use. And on top of that you have the bots set up to scrape videos and see how much they resemble the show which often is the automated flags people get simply because they reached the threshold of what the bot considers to be too similar to the shows content(this is why people often restrict clips of media to less than 3 seconds cause a lot of the bots judge it off roughly 3 seconds as the cut off)

[@thomasclevenger2303]

This video was my favorite, sad to see it gone and even gladder to see it back! Hail King in the North!

[@TheFandomeClips]

The King in The North shall rise again!!!! Thanks for the support Thomas! We really appreciate it! Liam

[@Aremca87]

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[@TomGreen-zk8ik]

KING IN THE NORTH!

[@melkorbauglirlordofdarknes411]

"Sansa should be safe." Dickheadus Imbredus: "Are you sure about that?"

[@mr.snulch]

Wow HBO bringing down one of your finest videos in its peak popularity even though it's completely transformative is really frustrating, sorry to hear that guys. Don't worry, I'll watch this video a million times and bring it back to the top.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Haha thanks Mrsnulch! You'll be at it a while just so you know 😂 honestly we really appreciate that we have members in our community like you! We think they get us with the little clips that have both video and sound, even though we use them out of context and as a punch line, but such is life, We've just stopped doing it now Hopefully the Stannis video or the redo will avenge this one! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@agm5424]

They're salty that the fans are better at writing a good story than their own writers when they don't have a source material to follow.

[@Hoppers123popper]

A sacrifice to the old gods of the algorithm

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks miller we really appreciate it! Liam

[@PiscatorLager]

Why would Tywin learn from his mistakes in that scenario? He never did, quite the opposite. Robb and Brynden managed to hijack Tywin's decision cycle at every single step of the war, driving the "old lion" to a point where he was so desperate that he had to resort to breaking diplomatic immunity in order to gain the upper hand.

[@PiscatorLager]

@@Huhbroski The so called smallfolk of the Riverlands were on the run, yeah. From the atrocities committed by Lorch and Clegane, under order from Tywin. A strategy considered utterly inefficient (often even counter-productive) by pretty much every real-world historian by the way.

[@autisticus1678]

@@Huhbroskilol no they werent

[@Gunleaver]

@@Huhbroski Are you blind? ROBB was using the chevauche! He was not raiding the West for vengeance, he was doing it to lure Tywin to pursue him. He and Brynden explicitly say this. "If this were the BC days" but it's not. Fighting a war with methods suited for a different era is stupid, it's how you lose. You credit Tywin with trying to draw Robb out to defeat in the field, but then you fault Robb for not doing what Tywin wants. Tywin wanted to fight Robb on the Kingsroad, Robb avoided that, because he's smart, leaving Roose to hold his attention. Twyin did NOT defeat Roose in a *decisive* battle, because his win did not *decide* anything. It did not determine the course of the war, it did not eliminate Roose's force from the field. Furthermore, Roose blew the battle badly. He had the advantage of surprise, but pulled back to the defense, and then he let his infantry charge superior numbers from their high ground. This was almost certainly deliberate to weaken his rival northern lords. Robb went after Jaime, because his war aims were to effect a defeat on the Lannisters, so as to be able to negotiate the return of his father, and to liberate the castle of his grandfather. He succeeded at these objectives, and Tywin flat out admits that if not for Joffrey murdering Ned, he would have traded the Starks for Jaime & the Lannister captives. Furthermore, he gained an advantageous position, blocking Tywin from his homelands, and cutting off his access to reinforcement. With Roose still in place on the Kingsroad, Tywin could not strike at Robb's homelands, and if he advanced on Robb, could be taken in the rear, and furthermore, had to be ready to protect Kings Landing, where his source of political power and authority was threatened by the Baratheons. He parked himself at Harrenhal to have a strong defensive position, to hold out against the northern forces, and he was also between Robb & Roose, so that if they combined, he could intercept one army and defeat them in detail. Meanwhile, he could protect his whole army in Harrenhal, which Robb did not have the manpower to besiege or assault, and meanwhile, was having Stafford lead a new army to join with Prester at the border to come at Robb from behind, to crush him between the two Lannister armies. By attacking into the West, Robb crushed the one threat, and then proceeded to turn Tywin's methods back on him. Now Tywin had to protect HIS subjects. Yes, he did not care about their lives, but his whole reputation was built on making everyone afraid of him, on creating the certainty that any offense against a Lannister or a Lannister's possessions will provoke brutal retaliation. Robb riding through Tywin's domain, looting and taking castles, unimpeded, slaying the brother of Tywin's beloved wife, all makes Tywin look weak and ineffectual, and it will make his lords bannermen start worrying more about what Robb is doing to their lands and stores and homes, than about their liege lord's wrath. Tywin was forced to leave his advantageous position in Harrenhal, abandon the protection of Joffrey & Cersei and the capital city, because if he didn't, he would lose the support of his lords, and the terror of his retribution would drop off. Had he been allowed to keep up with what he intended, he would have been too far away to stop Stannis from taking the city, and Robb had a plan to defeat Tywin in the field. Robb was always keeping his war goals in mind. He was not running away from Tywin, he was maneuvering to create an advantageous situation to beat him and forcing Tywin to respond to him, instead of taking Tywin's bait. This is not a video game, where you throw superior numbers at that other side and expect the auto-calculations to hand you the victory.

[@Gunleaver]

@@Huhbroski They were not running away from Tywin, they were attacking his base. Robb consistently identifies Tywin's vulnerabilities and attacks them. First he goes after Tywin's favorite child & desired heir, and liberates a critical strategic location and eliminates half the Lannister field armies, while standing between Tywin & resupply from Casterly Rock & the West. Then he invades the West, crushes Tywin's reinforcements, and proceeds to raid at will in the Lannister domains, recouping materiel and supplies as payback for the Lannisters' scorched earth tactics in the Riverlands, and sending the whole world a message that Tywin could not protect his own people. That's why Tywin had to leave his strategically advantageous position in Harrenhal, and march AWAY from Kings Landing, leaving his grandson & access to the Iron Throne in peril from the rival Tywin fears the most. Because no one will fight for Tywin if he looks weak, no one will fear him if the Starks prove that there is nothing to fear.

[@harryjones6594]

You guys are so underrated. Passionate, witty and resilient, you’re just amazing.

[@dakotalange2858]

What if Rhaegar started his rebellion at the tourney of harrenhall (I know there were rumors he was going to but the what if is he starts it)

[@TheFandomeClips]

That's a wicked idea buddy we've added it to the list! Liam

[@ucnguyenanh9414]

Not a very likely scenerio with his hormones always stand in the way.

[@Halterin11]

Sad to see it, but don't let this wear you down. You'll hit that mill with an even better video

[@TheFandomeClips]

We won't buddy hopefully the redo will avenge us when it's released! Thanks for the support and kind words we appreciate it! Liam

[@katiecollins32]

I agree with most of the video but Sansa is never going to be safe after Jaime's death. Cersei's entire life-long paranoia has been based around her prophecy from Maggie the Frog, specifically the line "Until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear." She is absolutely going to hold Sansa responsible for Jaime's death (taking what she holds dear) and I think she'd find a way to kill her, consequences be damned.

[@mrmittenns5728]

Maybe, but that will even make them lose the war faster. Or she'll kill herself, also a possibility

[@fightsports66]

I can’t go along with the consequences be damned thing. If there was one person who Cersei was scared of and who she never outsmarted it was Tywin. She would be too afraid to kill Sansa as long as Tywin still drew breath.

[@wizardcat5220]

​@@fightsports66 Not in this scenario. If the north aren't taking prisoners, Sansa's value is practically zero. Her only value is for a hostage exchange or for her husband to inherent winterfell. This scenario kills that first option and the second option can be achieved through the fake Arya. In fact with Jamie dead Sansa would be more valuable dead than alive to prevent the lanisters from looking weak. So, I sincerely doubt Tywin would cause too much trouble about it.

[@fightsports66]

@@wizardcat5220 Fake Arya? Unless my timeline is mistaken the Red Wedding has not happened yet so Robb and Kaitlin Stark are still alive. How are you going to fool them with a fake Arya ?

[@Monarcho-communist]

Lmfao what ? It wouldn't be complicated, Sansa is immediately executed with no issues. Why would Tywin stop it????

[@logankobs-toussaint2012]

No you guys are the reason your channel is where it is. You give all of us fans great videos to watch and discuss topics about a franchise we all love!

[@watchface6836]

So the original was the video that got me to binge the rest of your Thrones and HotD content in under a week. I'll happily watch it again. All Hail Rob Stark! Our True King in the North!

[@LISA.WANG.]

This was the first video I saw from you guys, super happy to see it back 😁🎉

[@ryanwilliams9751]

Robb forcing a marriage immediately seems more like something Frey would do if he was serious.

[@Sheir01]

Yeah this part doesn’t make sense. The Frey’s don’t care about Honor. They would still betray Robb if it was advantageous to them even if one of them was married to Robb. Walder would have thrown them under the bus at the red wedding. I don’t think he cares about being a kinslayer.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

They pretty much acknowledge that in this and the follow up video.

[@nogladney]

Let me save you from wasting 20 minutes. The Starks wouldve won if Rob went through with the original, agreed upon marriage. Its literally that simple

[@SayakerMaizonerfrfra1ab-e6p]

No, it's not. His Karstarks still left, Ironborn still had Moat Cailin and the Tyrell army is massive.

[@cadenroedl4896]

This video was the first one I found on your guys' channel (the best and worst commanders' videos are what got me to subscribe) and Liam and Tom are always a joy to hear from. Take heart good sirs, for copyright is dark and full of terrors.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Don't we bloody know it mate 🤣 that's two they've gone for now! Thanks for watching Caden! Liam

[@benjamin2187]

Liked and commented to appease the algorithm Also, love the channel guys, please keep creating videos!

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Benjamin we honestly appreciate the support! We won't give up don't worry! Liam

[@thaThRONe]

Rob already laid out how he could have won in the books. He could have swapped Jamie for Sansa and then made a marriage pack with the Tyrells. With Highgarden he would have had the numbers to defeat the Lannisters even with out the Freys and Karstarks.

[@MusicalAura-l3k]

@@thaThRONe but his mother spoiled his plan

[@Derekivery]

If Stannis is willing to let Starks call themselves "King in the North" (the way the Targaryens let the Martells keep the titles of Prince/Princess) I think that's pretty much game. Besides dealing with the White Walkers Stannis doesn't care what's going on in the North, and once the Lannisters are dealt with Rob and the North don't care what's happening in the south. But the Northerners have been pissy about having to bow down to a Southern king since Ageon 1. I would says more so than any other region. So if Stannis let them symbolically have their own "king" he'd get their support and together they win the war. But Stannis doing that would be harder than getting Joeffry to stop being a prick.

[@TheFandomeClips]

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[@msmith1890]

@@Derekivery Sounds similar to the Prussian monarchs being called Kings in Prussia.

[@cerclefan666]

A pity you guys got screwed, the content is really entertaining! Thanks for the videos!

[@TheCAL-dx4tr]

Hold on, hold on, I’ve seen this one before, it’s a classic What do you mean you’ve seen it before, it’s brand new?

[@TheFandomeClips]

🤣 some day these guys will get a fair do over! Thanks for watching matey! Liam

[@tombaynes8524]

Sad this video was taken down... Great to see you getting it back up despite the challenges!!

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

It was this video that introduced me to the channel, this sucks, sorry you guys got hit and i hope this one stays up, love your work your both fun and educational.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Josh we really appreciate it 🙏 this video isn't perfect by a long shot, but it represents me and Thom stepping over the threshold from two friend just dicking about into having an actual channel where we need to think about what we say 😂 Thanks for watching Josh! Liam

[@dododonut200]

This is the video that got me to you guys... Absolutely love it... Let's hope it stays up this time...

[@kgboftheussr3856]

This was my favorite video and the one which introduced you guys to me Keep up the good work :)

[@gibusllama3418]

Im starting to feel like the Three-Eyed Raven because I'm seeing history repeat itself

[@TheFandomeClips]

Aye I've said to Thom in private that we've exhausted our goodwill for recycling ideas and need to be getting some fresh stuff out there. I agreed with him on this one though, this video means a lot to us both so we needed it back up as soon as possible! Don't worry though it's fresh fresh fresh from here on out for a good while! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@gibusllama3418]

@TheFandomeClips Oh just to confirm I mean KZbin or HBO are repeating history by taking stuff down. I'm am more than happy to rewatch this, it a great video now and was a great video then. Thanks very much for your work and here's hoping it can get to the million mark again

[@davidmorris6707]

Glad you reloaded this. Loved your original video. It would have been missed!

[@ollieiden1135]

Glad this is back man. kept coming back to this one. Keep up the grind foods 🤟🤟

[@boethiah2777]

You guys deserve a million views on all these videos

[@gabrielcanejo187]

10:09 Sorry Man i think Tom is right there. Even If you were right that in at least some way or to some extent Walder Was Playing Safe at the start, he still not only allowed passage but gave his army to Robb against The Lannisters in The Books (you might have forgotten that), and they only left when Robb Choose to Marry Jeyne Westerling to not sully her honor after sleeping with her

[@enkuusht7044]

Always love when The Fandome uploads, even if its a repost🎉🎉🎉

[@abford03]

Love this video, will be nice in time to see how you explore the idea further

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Abford! We know this one isn't perfect by a long shot but we're very fond of it since it was our first ever video where we put in some real effort! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@czeresniak7]

This video is how I discovered your channel. Whoever took it down should be the next offering for the lord of light.

[@bencm92]

So sorry the og got hit guys! I'm sure I'm not alone in saying it was the video that brought me to the channel, but the videos you've been delivering since have all been top tier and I know that standard won't be going down any time soon. Looking forward to the future!

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Ben! Aye this was THE video that made me and Thom stop dicking around and take things a tad more seriously (even though our points aren't perfect in this one and we're the first to admit it) Thanks for the continued support buddy it's appreciated 👍 Liam

[@haydenhodgson8716]

Keep your heads up guys you make absolutely banging content we all lov3 you ❤

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Hayden buddy haven't ventured into the comments of the last two videos (on a sanity break lol) but nice to see you in here as always matey! We aren't going to throw our toys out of the pram on it, but man 1 million views would have been a terrific milestone to hit for a vid! Thanks for the support as always mate! Liam

[@reidcarlson8892]

This video is great. I love y'all's theorizing.

[@LordDagultNeverember]

Great video as always

[@CantKnockNokk]

I loved this video and the Stannis one so I’m sorry that the original got the treatment it did - you guys deserve way better!

[@korlashgaming8313]

i will comment anytime glad i can help and thanks for all the videos!

[@Wulfgar7]

Sad to see the original taken down but glad to see this reuploaded.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Wulfgar! We didn't mind the commanders one getting hit but have to be honest this one hurt. Hopefully the redo will take up the sword of this one and be the first video to hit 1 million! For the mean time though the OG is still here for people at least! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@gabriel_tormentaroja5118]

This video was the reason because i subscribe to this Channel. Im with you guys!!

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Gabriel! Aye this one hurt, 1 million is an amazing milestone to hit, and we're back to square 1 again with it Hopefully the redo or maybe the Mannis will take up the sword and avenge this one. I'm just glad it's back here for anyone who wants to rewatch it for old times sake Thanks for the Support Gabriel! Liam

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Gabriel! Aye this one hurt, 1 million is an amazing milestone to hit, and we're back to square 1 again with it Hopefully the redo or maybe the Mannis will take up the sword and avenge this one. I'm just glad it's back here for anyone who wants to rewatch it for old times sake Thanks for the Support Gabriel! Liam

[@gabriel_tormentaroja5118]

We Will rise those million banners again!! ^^ For the Mannis and the Starks. Im still looking for your videos of regions of westeros VS Khal Drogo 1vs1 in detail.

[@LSAKrusher]

Best video on the topic!

[@MrBuddyGuy]

Old school GOT videos helped so many like myself grow their love for the story and the world beyond the show and pages in the books! I’m always down for theory videos 💪🏼

[@iisotter8944]

Longer, longer, longer vids. I like great analysis and information, not click bait. I now only watch youtube vids around 20mins or longer now, especially on GOT, or HOTD. Keep up the great work guys.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Iisotter! We are tying up our length to a consistent 20 mins! Next week's video should be a good one for you! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@iisotter8944]

@@TheFandomeClips Nice one, just binging your channel as we speak, and sharing. Number 1 for me always; Cat, Cat, bloody Cat. Diolch/Ta Liam, bell activated.

[@erikakerblom2900]

Watched the original video quite a few times, hell i think i watched it two days ago, but am gonna watch it again to see what is different now. Noice as always Liam and Tom

[@TheFandomeClips]

No difference I'm afraid buddy apart from some new music in places and we've taken out the bits we think they claim us on. Don't worry though a full blown redo is in the works for both the Lannisters and the Starks! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@professorsassafras]

Honor is actually very valuable and not a fools prize. In the world honor is often the thing that helps make allies and if your enemies capture you, you really want to appeal to honor. But the problem is once you yourself are dishonorable you lose all rights to honor and the rest of the world can be as awful as they want with you which is why no one pities anything bad that happens to Joffrey

[@Gunleaver]

Or why people feel free to lie to, betray and murder the Lannisters, Boltons, Freys & their men. Surrendering a castle honorably means that everyone inside accepts the judgment and control of the lord to whom you surrender. It does NOT mean delaying until dark so the commander of the garrison can sneak out and keep making trouble, but that's what they do when they surrender Riverrun to Jaime. Lannister-aligned soldiers are found to have been killed after peacefully surrendering. Wyman Manderly uses technicalities to murder his guests while not violating the custom of guest right. This is not how honor is supposed to work. Guest right is not worth much if you have to fear being shot with an arrow from your hosts the moment you are clear of the doorway. The whole point of these courtesies and codes of honor is that everyone is supposed to deal in good faith. You are merciful to the surrendering garrison exactly so they don't have reasons or motives to pull shit like Edmure & the Blackfish did. You honor truces and parlays and treat prisoners decently, so your side will get the same treatment. With Tywin's long career of cruelty and ignoring mercy (his line to Joffrey about helping up a foe who kneels is one of the most hypocritical in the books: he does no such thing to the captives after the Blackwater, or the City Watch who did not perform to military standards, because they were cops facing soldiers, and he especially did not do that to the Reynes and Tarbecks or the people of Kings Landing and the Red Keep during the Rebellion), the taboo-breaking Red Wedding, Jaime's history of oath-breaking, which as the Blackfish points out, is a current & on-going thing, given his freedom which was conditional on his oath to return Catelyn's daughters, no one has any reason to believe Jaime's offer of clemency and generous terms. Even afterwards, his aunt, who claims to have disapproved of some of Tywin's actions, is arguing against Jaime keeping his word, because she & the rest of her family flat out do not understand the practical value of honor, although Jaime is starting to get it.

[@mtarp19]

Sucks to lose all those views and stats. Happy to add some engagement for this video that first got me to this channel.

[@yaboiskittlez7943]

Seen this video before but I'll happily watch it again. Let's get back to 1 million!

[@Ferdelance-vt6vu]

Thank you for the memories

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks for watching Ferdelance! Liam

[@paragon1172000]

I watched this video so many times. I will do so again. We need to get this video to 1million as soon as possible.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Paragon we honestly appreciate the support! Liam

[@paragon1172000]

@@TheFandomeClips You guys are a good channel and I always enjoy watching your videos. It's sad these companies keep doing this to people.

[@MagicalMaster]

Upvoting if only to spite HBO. Edit: I'll bring it up again, I was hoping for a slight add on of it, but... eh, anyways. There's a way to deal with large predators like dragons and that's through a tampered with meal. It's a little underhanded, but bringing a giant firebreathing monster to a sword fight is cheating way harder so I think it more than evens out. A spike surgically inserted into their food. Often wrapped with leather so whatever cow or sheep or pig you've put it into isn't too distressed by it. Do it really well and you can have live animals with barbed metal in them just waiting to be eaten by a dragon so that chunk of iron can do unholy things to their insides. And won't that just drive their mother insane? But she can't exactly burn people with her source of fire dead and done.

[@tiltiege7842]

You sir, deserve either a permanent seat on the war council, or the gallows... Not quite sure

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Magical Master! We really appreciate the support! That's a bloody good idea for killing a dragon to be honest! Assuming the spike doesn't melt in their belly! (We're never actually told where dragon fire comes from with the GOT dragons to my memory at least) Thanks for the support! Liam

[@davidrooney6173]

Good video lads

[@RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn]

This channel is goated ♥️ 🐐

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Rashid! We appreciate your support! Liam

[@RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn]

@@TheFandomeClips Every thursday and friday I spend a worrying amount of time refreshing my subs feed for your new video notification 😅 Love you guys and your videos. Keep it up

[@simonbodewes9462]

Love this vid!

[@dakotalange2858]

What if the mad king forced Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen at the tourney at harrenhall to piss off the Starks the Baratheons and the Lannisters (as Cersei and Tywin wanted to marry into the royal family)

[@Gunleaver]

@@dakotalange2858 You forgot piss off the Martells, who are already married to Rhaegar, piss off the Baratheons, who are engaged to Lyanna, the Arryns, who have fostering relationships with both Stark and Baratheon, and the Tullys, who, with the betrothal of Catelyn, are committed to Team Stark. Basically it's a recipe to piss off the whole continent and also annoy every politically minded person with 2 brain cells and an ounce of foresight, who can see the problems a royal heir with two marriages raises for the succession.

[@johnkirk6203]

This was the video that got me into your channel. Shame they took the original down. Keep up the good work guys! Edit: It also make little sense in my eyes to go after content that is helping to keep the fanbase engaged in the franchise. They cannot seriously think that people won't buy a max subscription because people are watching tiny clips, not even full scenes, on KZbin.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks John, yeah absolute gut punch but we're hoping the redo when it drops will avenge us! Thanks for watching as always! Liam

[@HankShiesty]

I remember watching this video immediately after the red wedding on my first watch. I can't believe it got taken down!

[@papapedro6980]

11:20 you can apply both strategies to maximize the effect. Place Bolton men on the frontline of all the bloodiest battles, skirmishes, sieges, etc. let them forage and go on small strategic raids. Losing 2-3 men in a foraging operation or out scouting might not seem like much but when you have dozens of parties carrying out raids like this and hundreds of Bolton men sprinkled throughout it adds up over time

[@autumnsierra2401]

Everyone seems to forget that it's a feudal system they are working under so the Lord cannot steal his vassals peasants that would be oath breaking on Robs part.

[@ewhy5883]

Only commenting to boost the algorithm of this great video

[@tathoiclassicalindianbollywood]

so annoyed for you guys. This was the first video I watched from you, and have been a fan since. All the best and hope this one will reach the million too

[@motozealot5176]

Man I wanted Rob to win so bad. Really crushed me seeing it all come crumbling down

[@adrianplausdomenicone7426]

I've seen soo many times this video. Good luck

[@davidbalogun7569]

One of my favourite videos of yours and happy to see it back. Are you guys planning to do a how House Targaryen (Daenerys and Jon) could have won the game of thrones?

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks David, wish we didn't have to reup this, we want to try and bring new videos and ideas to the channel. Aye buddy how Dany could win is on the list! We've got the Lannister redo to sort out first though for this series, they've waited long enough lol! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@BenNouhan]

Just noticed at 18:52 the dragon's wing passes right through a tree, without either seeming to make contact

[@KobeJordanHakeem]

damn

[@ThatZillaGuy2]

So many companies have it out against fair use. Toho is also quite infamous for tearing down many well-made Godzilla content, regardless of fair-use policies.

[@kingz9982]

Watched the first one when it came out in a day and still love this vid also KING IN THE NORTH

[@miguelmaestas839]

There is kind of a problem that’s often overlooked. When you think about the stocks, not needing to worry about invasion, you have to remember at this point the north isn’t just the Starks, but they are basically half claiming the Riverlands too. Are they not?

[@Monarcho-communist]

Killing Karstark was the biggest blunder tbh.

[@D2attemp]

Like I said in the original video, I love these long form videos

[@stevenunger2253]

This was a great video when I originally watched it. You should make a video about how Cersei and Jaime could have possibly beat Daenerys

[@rubenfarache612]

I liked it the first time. I liked it the 2nd time

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Ruben! We honestly appreciate the rewatch! Don't worry back to fresh stuff next week! Liam

[@jontoven2467]

Hopefully you guys get to upload how the Lannister video I really liked that one

[@carastone3473]

House Stark is my fave! Great video!

[@kratosboy5557]

The Second approach with the Bolton’s is Smarter

[@Psub950]

I was gonna do a rewatch of all your Game of Thrones videos anyway Edit: Before i forget What if Apollyon from For Honor was in Game of Thrones?

[@NolanDraconis]

I mean, she’d technically insta win after Ned’s death. War

[@Psub950]

@@NolanDraconis i know, but i still want to see her in the of asoiaf Edit: Plus she would constantly be trying to keep the war going, which might involve things like killing Dany's dragons, or once she learns of them making sure the White Walkers don't make it past the wall.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Psub we appreciate it! We are looking at crossovers in future so I'll note your idea down! Liam

[@Psub950]

@@TheFandomeClips 🙏 thank you

[@M.L.official]

Still think the Boltons are the biggest issue here. "Spend them" isnt that easy because he will probably swap sides to Tywin even earlier. Because that will ensure they have more men. I would also split them up under the command of other houses. That way they aren't as coordinated.

[@autumnsierra2401]

You can't do that in a feudal system it's considered oath breaking on the part of the higher Lord this case being Rob stealing peasants from Roose is a crime. You literally can't take away his troops! what would work is making sure he fights alongside Rob so he can keep a close eye on him. He let Roose loose which was fucking dumb.

[@kjellduteweert9262]

Also, a thing the show changed is Robb was called the King of North and Trident. So, the North and the Riverlands would both be independent.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Obligatory upvote and comment for the algorithm.

[@flavius5722]

I think we need a little feud în the comment sections to really do the job

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Warlord! Hopefully the Redo will avenge this one! Thanks for the continued support as always mate! Liam

[@Boppeboy]

The north remembers Stockholmfell Thom

[@jasonpelletier8066]

The o s issue I have is the order you begin with . The agreement with Waldor Fraye happen and a result was able to capture Jaime . If Robb send out Ravens like you say prior to getting to the twins , Tywin just speeds up the betrayal and does it as Robb trying to negotiate the crossing of the twins .

[@markpula91]

I will watch this video as many times as I can

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Mark every little helps! God we have a great community 💪

[@jthecaffeinatedcrow6456]

18:27 Robb might actually be successful in negotiating because one person: Jorah Mormont. In this scenario, Jorah is likely still a member of Dany's council since Tywin didn't send the "pardon", so Jorah may vouch for the Starks and North and Dany may add in pardoning Jorah's past crimes.

[@savannahpage2816]

Sorry about the video takedown

[@personal9372]

Christ almighty this Robb is way more epic than he should be.

[@billberndtson]

Heart-warming initiated. Appreciation permission granted. Show watching and resultant enjoyment commencing.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Bill, I can feel the warmth already! Thanks for the support! Liam

[@progames2638]

In the book, Rob did send Ruse Bolton to fight Taivin

[@Robinsong8008]

Comment for warming hearts thank u for the efforts

[@Jwsponky]

A thought occurs about how the North could counter Dany's dragons, though it would depend on when, or even if, the North makes peace with the Wildlings, even if only to deny them to the White Walkers as wights. Giant archers. The battle of Castle Black shows they pack a comparable punch to ballistae, the main counter to dragons short of other dragons. And yes, a single archer might struggle to hit a dragon, but what about ten? Twenty? Fifty maybe? With enough arrows loosed your going to hit something, especially against unwary targets who up until this point haven't had to worry about anything on the ground posing a danger to them.

[@irishsaint89]

If ballistas are available like in house of the dragon, then build a shit load of them. Great video

[@Prince1991-e5h]

Almost clicked away without subscribing I'll recommend your channel to my buddies -JJ

[@thisguy8106]

Here's for the warm hearts.

[@313Nadir]

Bran the three eyed useless made me actually laugh out loud x)

[@chrisr4023]

Instantly marrying the Frey girl is quite clever. I have never thought of that before.

[@Gunleaver]

How much good did marrying a Frey girl do Edmure?

[@Wrynwynn]

For the Channel!

[@boltsky1]

Ridiculous they took a swipe. You guys reignited my love of the franchise (obligatory "despite the last couple seasons"). We gotta give this video some engagement to appease the algorithm. All Hail the Mighty Algorithm

[@TheFandomeClips]

Aye I think they get us with those small clips we use with the show audio, even though we use them completely out of context and usually as a punch line to a joke (which can be argued as transformative) but honestly fair use is often down to the opinion of the judge in law. We know we'll never get it back to where it was (hate watchers only watch once lol 😂) but at least it's still here for people! Thanks for the support Boltsky! Liam

[@CesarALlanos]

Really sorry about the takedown guys. But I wouldn’t worry, this video is amazing and it’ll definitely get a good amount of views regardless

[@batlord7690]

Love your theories for how things could have gone, I was wondering if you would do a what if for if Cersei and Robert actually had a child together. The child could be younger than Joffrey, giving us the plot of the show/books and how this hypothetical Baratheon Prince would influence the story. The name Lyonel is one I have in mind, Robert would most likely name him this, both after his ancestor & from Lyanna Stark, his lost love. There are so many possibilities for what he could be like, obviously he'd be strong like a Baratheon, but I think he'd also have the cunning mind of a Lannister. Maybe not the smartest in the Seven Kingdoms, but at least higher than average and enough to play the games effectively.

[@nicolasanderson2381]

Additional up votes for the algorithm

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Nicolas we appreciate it! Liam

[@TheLuigiBrother77]

Rip to all those that perished of starvation old age or seppuku during the 280 years long intro