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@slytherinlannister942
@slytherinlannister942 4 сағат бұрын
You guys forgot one worthy queen... The Queen Who Never Was.
@slytherinlannister942
@slytherinlannister942 5 сағат бұрын
I fully believe that some of the gods in ASOIAF are real. Perhaps, they're jerks and don't care about humans, or maybe they're limited in how much they can participate in the affairs of mortals. I think that the Old gods and R'hllor are real, but I don't think that the Seven are.
@stingerjohnny9951
@stingerjohnny9951 6 сағат бұрын
The Greyjoys are a good example of how the Cult of Strength fucks a society in the long run, even if it benefitted them in the past.
@shaymurphy4951
@shaymurphy4951 6 сағат бұрын
How about how could Danny have won the game of thrones yknow without loosing all three of her dragons and her mind
@shaymurphy4951
@shaymurphy4951 6 сағат бұрын
More in depth I meant cause I’m sure you did a quick bit in another video it just hit me
@No_Relation_666
@No_Relation_666 6 сағат бұрын
Jaime and it’s not close
@Smilodon_ex
@Smilodon_ex 8 сағат бұрын
In a life or death battle I got daemon he showed way more experience in 2 major battles in his area while Jamie would beat him in tourney but 1 battle he actually fought as the lead he lost to the young wolf 💯
@GustavFröhlich-s8g
@GustavFröhlich-s8g 8 сағат бұрын
for the next video i would recommend sandoq vs sandor
@darkxdead
@darkxdead 13 сағат бұрын
I want a time-bending show of just two of them going around, messing/fixing all the things that they couldn't do separately in their own times.
@rogeliomanueldiazmoreno2818
@rogeliomanueldiazmoreno2818 13 сағат бұрын
Not only we have seen Ser Cole defeating Daemon, we also have seen Jaime taking care of participating in tournaments to assess the capabilities of possible rivals. So there is a level of foresight there. Remember what he said to Brienne, "there are three knights in Westeros that can defeat me". Intelligent to have them identified! even though he could have bypassed one or two more. Would ever Daemon have worried about that?
@doggfriendly
@doggfriendly 14 сағат бұрын
In the show it appears Damon was the better in war zone combat and Jaimie better at 1 v 1
@tri3183
@tri3183 14 сағат бұрын
I bet they pick Lannister
@aratus1622
@aratus1622 15 сағат бұрын
I’d like to see a a video on how the wildlings or nights watch could win/survive the game of thrones.
@jboy1181
@jboy1181 15 сағат бұрын
There would be a giant civil war in the iron islands between Ziktarion and uron with Theon and yara in the middle
@TrueYellowDart
@TrueYellowDart 16 сағат бұрын
In his prime, Daemon was armed with a spicy noodle monster (who is also the bestest boy) therefore he wins.
@John14710
@John14710 19 сағат бұрын
Ok, the video I’ve been waiting for since starting to watch HotD. Is that ur real voice tho?
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 18 сағат бұрын
Hi John, it's my real voice in the sense that's it's not AI or had anything done to alter it aye 😂 but this could probably be categorised as my teacher/lecturer/public speaking voice, my conversation voice is a little softer but sounds roughly the same Thanks for watching! Liam
@jameshedrick4490
@jameshedrick4490 19 сағат бұрын
I would like to submit this battle for the VS series! Robert Baratheon the Demon of the Trident vs the Greatjon Umber both in their prime and with signature weapons.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 18 сағат бұрын
That's a very spicy match up James, Reach Vs Power between two well trained warriors! Added to the list! Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam
@Snufarlington
@Snufarlington 19 сағат бұрын
Wait….. who is better at sleeping with their relatives? The people need to know!
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 18 сағат бұрын
We must conduct a though and complete investigation because we can determine this important factor my friend! Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam
@mazdakahmed4057
@mazdakahmed4057 20 сағат бұрын
Strongest targaryen fighters ranked
@konradfischer8629
@konradfischer8629 20 сағат бұрын
Oberyn vs Robert
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 18 сағат бұрын
I think we covered that in our nightmare match up video buddy! Thanks for watching! Liam
@mazdakahmed4057
@mazdakahmed4057 20 сағат бұрын
Show robb stark vs aemond targaryen
@lacym9278
@lacym9278 22 сағат бұрын
I swear, the voice on these is half the reason i watch, always makes these matches sound epic
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks Lacy, it's nice to have it complimented. Normally the comparisons I get is it's like ear sandpaper 😂 thank you for watching! Liam
@winkoman3
@winkoman3 23 сағат бұрын
Daemon is very cool and competent in his own way, especially with his dragon, but we also see him lose his very first fight in the series to Cristin Cole. Jaime, on the other hand, is undefeated in the books and the show untill he's captured by the Starks, and even then it's said he killed a dozen men trying to bring him down. He's pretty confident that he could take on The Mountain if he still had his right hand. George R.R. Martin himself has said that he thinks Jaime could defeat Eragorn, who is a mythical savoir of humanity with Elf blood and is annointed by God.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 17 сағат бұрын
I'd always take what authors say with a pinch of salt as they can have bias just like any of us, double so when it involves characters that don't belong to them. He also said Jaime could defeat Aragorn which is a statement about 99% of people who know both characters would heartedly disagree with. But your not wrong, Jaime is an absolute beast, when he's not dicking around he can beat just about anyone in his own universe. Thanks for watching buddy! Liam
@jeffwinn673
@jeffwinn673 23 сағат бұрын
I agree with almost every point made except you've overlooked one distinction - Jaime is a knight and Daemon is a killer. Daemon's level of real world combat experience combined with wielding Dark Sister give him the advantage but the deciding factor is that you misjudge how Daemon would react in a fight considering what we see in the show. Consider these moments - Daemon laughs at Vaemond during Laena's funeral, he calmly intercedes to stop Cole during Alicent's rant in Driftmark demanding an eye for an eye and then calmly stepping in front of Aemond during the Last Supper in the Red Keep when Daemon 2.0 apparently wasn't in the mood to have pork for dinner. At no point did it appear that anger or rage would get the better of him. Lastly, could Jaime have coldly bifurcated the offending party's head upon hearing an insult hurled at Cersei only to then respond to Otto's subsequent shout to have him disarmed with a quiet and simple "No need" as he wiped the dead man's blood from his sword? I think not. Daemon was considered the most dangerous man in the realm and that isn't a moniker given to Jaime despite his prodigious talent. Daemon wouldn't get rattled in a real battle nor would he mess around or showboat like he did in his tourney loss to Cole. He could have insulted Vaemond or challenged him after his pronouncements but instead he cut him down with brutal efficiency. I think Jaime is more likely to let his emotions impact his fighting than Daemon rather than it being the other way around. Daemon is a killer... not a knight. That is the real difference and deciding factor. Well, that and wielding Dark Sister doesn't hurt.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 17 сағат бұрын
To be honest I think he doesn't get angry with Aemond because he thinks it's amusing that his mini me has the audacity to think he can be like his uncle 😂 man I can't wait for the Godseye Thanks for watching mate and sharing your thoughts! Very interesting read and some good points made. Liam
@metalhead6662
@metalhead6662 23 сағат бұрын
Is there even enough characters for a top 10 Warriors from HotD? Daemon, Criston are the only sure fire names on that list that I can recall.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 15 сағат бұрын
Aye there is, we do need season 3 possibly season 4 to get some footage for them though. Cregan Stark is also an absolute monster of a warrior. Thanks for watching as always metal head! Liam
@fire1655
@fire1655 23 сағат бұрын
One thing I would like to note as far as the training that they would’ve gotten with weapons and all Daemon have been trained by members of the Kingsguard we see it in the main show where one of the members serves as master of arms, so we can somewhat make it a speculation that the Targaryen liked to have their children trained by loyal people, and who better than the people who are supposed to be guarding our lives one of the seven best Warriors in the kingdom at their time.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 14 сағат бұрын
That's true and pretty fair assumption to make. We're thinking of using old Daemon once we've got season 3 so we'll probably bring this up there! Thanks for the insight! Liam
@Dr_Juju
@Dr_Juju Күн бұрын
Yes, Daemon has a chance but no sane person would bet on him 😅 Jaime is one of the grandest fighters in history while Daemon is carried by his sword 😅
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips 15 сағат бұрын
I don't think Daemon is that far behind. The sword definitely is what puts him in with a chance though in my opinion. It helps bridge that gap a little in their skill Thanks for watching! Liam
@jameshedrick4490
@jameshedrick4490 Күн бұрын
Ironically Jaime's fight IQ, anger, arrogance, and tactical abilities all improved after he lost his hand. His arrogance came from his outrageous skill. Deprived of that he became a much more intelligent and calm fighter and a better and more honorable man. I always wanted to see Jaime gain his greater humility and cool tactical head without losing his hand. Had this been possible he would have been truly unstoppable in combat or on the battle field. I only wish he could have gained this without losing his hand but then I suppose we would have lost his brilliant character arc.
@jameshedrick4490
@jameshedrick4490 Күн бұрын
I fully agree with the results here, though I might give a slightly more favorable win to Jaime than you did. While I do agree with the fight IQ and anger issues being the main source of Jaime's victory I also think with these two valyrian steel doesn't make as much of a difference as some others seem to believe. It is unbreakable and never loses its edge, yes but it's main advantage is being lighter and therefore quicker than a regular sword. Jaime is notably stronger and more muscular than Daemon meaning he simply won't be weighed down as much by his weapon. I've done HEMA in the past and in my experience one thing that can tip the scale is a fighter becoming worn out by the weight of their weapon and their arm getting more and more tired from repeatedly swinging it. To me this is the true advantage of valyrian steel. It's sharper and stronger but it doesn't cut through other steel so functionally in a duel it acts as just a sword. However being lighter weight without sacrificing any strength or cutting power is a HUGE advantage against some opponents. In the case of Jaime however, because he is notably stronger than Daemon I don't think it will make any difference. His sword will be of the best quality possible without having valyrian steel and his superior strength means he is unlikely to get tired out faster under the weight of his own weapon. To me weapons and equipment in this fight are dead equal so neither will really have an advantage on that front. This takes it back to skill and fight psychology and in both categories, Jaime wins.
@jeremy1860
@jeremy1860 Күн бұрын
Great comparison. But I do have to wonder if the fact that they come from different eras might also play into it. Swordplay changes from century to century, so it's entirely possible that techniques and skills are better or more refined in one time period vs another. And with 200 years between them, it's likely another feather in Jaime's cap, given that "how to fight with a sword" has likely come a long way since Daemon's time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@byeoocg
@byeoocg Күн бұрын
The books would give daemon the edge is physicality. The feat of leaping from one dragon to another to slay aemon is pretty insane. Think daemon could heavily tilt Jaime easy with the cersei incest stuff while daemon couldn't careless about banging his niece. I also think daemon is smarter and more calculated, while Jaime puts his faith in his skill over his IQ. But Jaime still wins based purely on how highly George rates him
@deeznutzzzz85
@deeznutzzzz85 Күн бұрын
Giga Chad Jaime >>> Daemon
@josephmallett1051
@josephmallett1051 Күн бұрын
I think it’s time for a deep dive into Aragorn vs Arthur Dayne. (I know the question was Aragorn or Jamie but I think Jamie needs a break)
@josephmallett1051
@josephmallett1051 Күн бұрын
Or a young barristan
@hclw3589
@hclw3589 Күн бұрын
Barristan vs sandoq the shadow is an interesting VS to think about. I’d give it to barristan (the number one in the verse if not for author statements.) But I would to see your thoughts on this possible duel
@Rizz779
@Rizz779 Күн бұрын
Daemon wouldn’t even last a second against Jaime Jaime’s the bronze medal for all time fighters Daemon might just break top 20 just beating his bastard son Aemond lmao
@hclw3589
@hclw3589 Күн бұрын
This is not a close fight Jaime wins this easily. But daemon is not some complete bum or anything he’ll put up a respectable level of fight for a character of his skill. Unless something happens there’s no situations where daemon is the one that comes out of this alive.
@strawberryshower1175
@strawberryshower1175 Күн бұрын
*comment for promotion of the video*
@ucnguyenanh9414
@ucnguyenanh9414 Күн бұрын
I doubt Daemon was the best fighter in his era. Clearly Dalton Greyjoy and Criston Cole were better than him. A guy who been taking lives since he was ten and the guy who confident enough to suggest a 3v1 duel would be something to beware of.
@LongfusedbombasticBarbarian
@LongfusedbombasticBarbarian Күн бұрын
Yeah this one is so close and to be honest with you I think as Daemon got older he kept getting smarter and his physical abilities didn't deteriorate that much so I could totally see this going Jamie's way
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
We'll definitely do old Daemon against someone when we get season 3 of HOTD! I agree with you he might actually be better in his older age! Thanks for watching! Liam
@Dedhaven
@Dedhaven Күн бұрын
Daemon Targaryen wins... because he has both hands, and a big fookin Dragon.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
😂 10 points for the Hound reference! Thanks for watching dedhaven! Liam
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 Күн бұрын
Do one on who would and wouldn't bear Strongboar Crakehall.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
That's Jaimes strong buddy isn't it?
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 Күн бұрын
@TheFandomeClips yes. He wants all the smoke with Blackfish or The Hound.
@ElladanKenet
@ElladanKenet Күн бұрын
Jaime is the better swordsman. Daemon is the better warrior. I agree with you, in a sword fight, Jaime probably wins the majority of duels. But take away the swords, or even their sword hand, and I give it to Daemon 9/10 times. I'd put my money on Daemon in a knife fight, or a bar fight, or using, well, just about any other weapon. Even Jousting. Jaime's won some tilts, but he's not amazing, certainly nowhere as good at the joust as he is at the sword. He lost to both Loras and Jorah Mormont.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
Think I'd have to agree with you regarding Daemon in a more brawly context. He'd be your worst nightmare in a bar fight, ash trays, bottles chairs all are weapons to him lol Thanks for watching! Liam
@KingSlayer_.
@KingSlayer_. Күн бұрын
Kid slayer vs king slayer? We all know who wins🦁🗿🔥
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
Haha I knew this one would make you happy (I know it's really you behind that keyboard Jaime!) Thanks for watching buddy! Liam
@paulraines9635
@paulraines9635 Күн бұрын
Jamie, at everything. Fighting, banging family members, overthrowing heads of state.
@Chaosoftheunicorns
@Chaosoftheunicorns Күн бұрын
Uncle no brows probably wins. Jaime is probably the "better" fighter, but he's more honorable (in a fighting context) and Daemon has no issues fighting dirty whatsoever, Daemon is faster and has dark sister, plus books are impossible to judge by so going by shows, Daemon's armor is so much better than any armor shown in thrones. Daemon also was only "beaten" once in a situation where going by tourney standards, he already had beaten crispy cole, cole did a cheap shot when already beaten so that's not a great thing to bring up for Daemon "losing". Jaime is a beast, but cares more about fighting honor than Daemon, whom is considered as a ruthless bastard by literally everyone and earned that reputation in both tourney as well as years of war.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
Too true Chaos! It's a bloody tough one to call! Thanks for watching! Liam
@wildghoul7485
@wildghoul7485 Күн бұрын
Who do you guys think would be a good match for Cregan Stark? I'd like to see him in one of these videos but I ain't sure who'd be a good rival.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
Thom has a rule. If I'm using a character there dam well better be a good amount of footage and art of them 😂 honestly I'm not sure. Cregan is supposedly up in that top tier with Daemon and Cole so without anything else to go on, I'd definitely say he needs a high caliber opponent like Jaime, Sandor or Garlan Tyrell. Thanks for watching buddy! Liam
@wildghoul7485
@wildghoul7485 Күн бұрын
@TheFandomeClips as if I needed more reason to dislike HBO for the lack of Cregan in the show. Thanks for the answer.
@daniboi3248
@daniboi3248 Күн бұрын
loras tyrell vs jon snow
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
I'll happily do that if we get winds and can see Jon grow a little more, in the beginning I think Loras whoops him. But Jon keeps getting better, I can imagine he'll be very formidable when he reaches adulthood! Thanks for watching daniboi! Liam
@ct-117
@ct-117 Күн бұрын
I think The Unsullied vs The Golden Company could be a cool comparison. Army vs army sounds neat
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
Hey CT great to see you! Not next week but week after (depending on how tied up Thom is with Christmas stuff) we're doing a video on the armies of Westeros if that stuff floats your boat! If it does well we might put your idea on the drawing board! Shiny mercs Vs the most disciplined slave army in the world is definitely an interesting match up! Thanks for watching! Liam
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 Күн бұрын
I'm choosing The Golden Company. Elephants with Westerosi knights.
@Rizz779
@Rizz779 Күн бұрын
@@ct-117 Golden Company destroys the Unsullied
@rogeliomanueldiazmoreno2818
@rogeliomanueldiazmoreno2818 13 сағат бұрын
Only elephants would give GC a chance, remember Unsullied defeated at Qhor a Dothraki force outnumbering them 10 to 1, and even elephants are not unbeatable.
@Rizz779
@Rizz779 12 сағат бұрын
@@rogeliomanueldiazmoreno2818 Golden Company actually wear armor unlike the Dothraki And heavier armor than the light unsullied armor 1. Golden Company have advanced archer units with Goldenheart bows 2. Have the Elephants 3. Have Calvary 4. Are the most sought after mercs and so rich they waste gold like nothing lol They’re a functional army and not just bodyguards like the Unsullied who they’d destroy
@The_Malcontented
@The_Malcontented Күн бұрын
@15:31 In both the books and show, Jaime's hands were also still manacled for his fight with Brienne. Brienne thinks to herself during their fight that he'd be putting up even more of a fighter if his hands were unbound, yet Jaime still attacks her while he is bound, malnourished, and hasn't had any exercise in months because he''s been locked in a dungeon. He certainly didn't have to deal with low self-esteem
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
😂 Yeah he was a confident dude that's for sure. Alot of people use that fight (along with the show only one Vs the Hound) as a way of saying how awesome Brienne is, but Jaime was at less than 50% of his normal output, I think even Brienne herself acknowledges that were he unbound and fresh he would have killed her immediately and that noone could have stood against him at full strength. Brienne is still awesome though, just not Jaime level awesome..,.........yet. Thanks for watching as always mate!
@dusanjosic1295
@dusanjosic1295 Күн бұрын
In hopes of not getting roasted to oblivion, i have to ask. Do to this close level of...well...everything..to Jamie .would Daemon be one the list of those fighters who could beat the mountain in a duel ? I want to say "yes" and that he would be rather high on that list, since he is aparantly a slightly worse Jamie in terms of skills with some dirty fighting skills of bronn and of course with the "dark sister" to boot, buuut...y'know...that ego and temperament of his are quite fierce, so i am would rather here out those more knowledgable then myself.
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
I don't think thats a roast worth opinion at all buddy! HOTD Vs the Mountain is on the list when we bring that series back! And spoilers but Daemon is making the can section! He's utterly ruthless, as long as he's aware of who he's fighting I think he'll have sand and glass in his pocket ready to teach the Mountain a lesson in kickassery 😂 thanks for watching mate! Liam
@JasperLane
@JasperLane Күн бұрын
Jamie, haven't even watched but I swear if it ain't Jaime I am going to rage
@TheFandomeClips
@TheFandomeClips Күн бұрын
Can your heart not take another Jaime loss after the Oberyn video Jasper? 😂 Luckily you should be satisfied. Thanks for watching! Liam
@JasperLane
@JasperLane Күн бұрын
@ my heart can take plenty, it’s my brain that hurts from your wrong takes!!!!! In all seriousness enjoy the vids, keep it up