When To Sell - Strategies Revealed!

[@whis5448]

I sell when I have better stocks to buy, else just keep it there no matter whether it rise or fall. This had helped me overcome the fear that time in Mar 2020.

[@perrycheow4980]

Very good advice and one of the best strategies I have seen on KZbin channel. Most financial KZbinrs only teach you to buy for long term and never teach you when to sell or cut loss. It take a lot of sincerity and humility when you shared that you had to cut lost of your past investments as the fundamental of the stocks changed or errors made. Keep up the good work guys !

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Appreciate that, Perry! Thanks for watching! 🙏🙏

[@gunnerstnt01]

For me im more of investors than trader , i will hold long term. The stocks i hold are of sound financial standings and earnings and always investing itself.

[@yeothong3421]

Sg thrives on truth, objectivity & honesty. This is how we're trusted & gets globally connected. This does not mean perfection. When we're not up to the mark, we apologise. I'm glad that there're young people on such a path helming leadership roles. We destroy ourselves when we take the easier path. wyeo.

[@Andromedaxterr]

Oh my God. I love these round table discussions !!

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thank you Tamas!

[@MS-ub9hb]

Always enjoy watching your videos. You guys speak from your hearts. Keep up the great work gentlemen. 👏

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thank you! We will! 😄

[@yeothong3421]

I forgot to say that they research & know their stuffs . Pleasant guys too. May God grant success to their work. wyeo.

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thank you so much for your kind words, Yeo! You flatter! 😄

[@yeothong3421]

@@TheFifthPersonChannel I've few friends for I like to hear only people who speak from the heart. wyeo.

[@yeothong3421]

Rusmin's &Victor's prinicple in share is the same as mine. Essentially it is buy when they are down & sell when they 're up. But they must be fundamentally sound or better, very sound. It's very important that you 've to keep checking the fundamentals. As important is holding power. The rich becomes richer because they've holding power. Thk you to both & not to forget the affable Adam who draws these out to help us. wyeo.

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Yes, pretty much! Thanks for watching, Yeo!

[@dominicteo872]

Thks, have been struggling to try to sell but still haven't gotten to do it...

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks Dominic! Hope this discussion helps!

[@whis5448]

It takes "Iron Balls" to brave the drop in Mar 2020, I didn't sold off but bought in and now the stock had recover to pre-pandemic level and not forgetting the dividends for these 1.5 years.

[@jameslim4525]

You probably make more selling first and rebuy back.

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

It's extremely hard to time the market though...

[@Lucas-wn5wm]

this thing happened to me recently. So yea i bite the bullet and pulled out and reposition it to a different stock it got better (-29%) luckily it isnt a big amount of capital lost.

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Good play!

[@nickdoggett6443]

Great advice especially for young people starting out on their investment journey. Time is on their side so patience and homework is key. I'm an "old hand" now in my 60s and semi retired so I've seen it all - the AFC, GFC, Covid etc. UOB and SGX were my best buys and they pay good dividends. I will not sell these. Keppel less good but hopefully they're on the road to recovery. DBS too which I got a couple of lots during COVID around $18. Regretted not getting more but as they say you can't win 'em all!!

[@CalLim_8]

Great point indeed. Question: What happens when there is a panic sell for example now with the Ukraine and Russian War. Would it be wise to sell off your convicted position and re-enter the market when the panic has settles down? Or would it be better off just taking the loss and wait for it to rebound?

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks! As long-term investors, we will simply hold onto our high-quality stocks and buy more if they come down to an attractive price.

[@yeothong3421]

I agree with MS that you guys speak from the heart. This is what impresses me too. It is unlike a brokerage that keeps guiding you to trade at $25 min. per trade. If you don't, they keep reducing the data until you are left with the buy & sell option. This is a clever- by- half way. A carpenter from Galilee teaches that what is covered will be uncovered. You can bluff people once or twice but not all the time. The heart has a way to uncover falsehood. wyeo.

[@yeothong3421]

Simple to understand. Honest too which is a rare commodity today. wyeo

[@futurederrick]

Very good session. Will continue the support 👍

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks Derrick! 👍

[@SMARTZLIVING]

Almost killed by SCM recently because of the unreasonable rights of 8cts. Cut lost and 30% down. Recovery stage is painful, slow and extremely depressing. Lost my pants but save my life because today SCM price is worst off than then. Big lesson learned. Even if company has TH as their major shareholder, things can still goes wrong.

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks for sharing your experience so others can learn too, Benjy!

[@raymondtay5184]

Thank you for sharing your experience

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

You're most welcome, Raymond!

[@Lester201185]

This is a very good video. It helps to give comfort and reinforce that what I have experienced in the past few years. My belief in fundamental analysis has helped me keep faith and continue acquiring when the market was depressed.

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks Lester! It's the best time to accumulate great companies when the market is depressed!

[@tanlikhiam]

Ha ha ha, Fly across the screen at 15:50. I thought it is my house then I saw Victor’s eye following it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Hahaha! 🐝

[@twinkleo2416]

Always enjoy the roundtable talks! Can you direct me to a video (if already have) that you’ve made on the step by step that you use to study the fundamentals of a business?

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks! We haven't done a specific roundtable on our investment process yet, but it is based on this: fifthperson.com/the-investment-quadrant-the-4-step-formula-to-picking-the-best-stock-investments/

[@twinkleo2416]

@@TheFifthPersonChannel thank you for the response and helpful link!

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

No worries!

[@yeothong3421]

If you allow me to divert a little. I'm always very happy when I see harmonious integration of our races. May I ask if the young Rusmin with nice biceps a Chinese or a Malay? At his age, he can analyse stocks quite well. Congrats !

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Rusmin is Indonesian Chinese, and not so young anymore! Thanks! 💪

[@KY-zo2ro]

I’m still holding on to my losing Reits like Mapletree NAC and Capland China commercial Trust becoz I believe in their business fundamentals and they are currently undervalued as well. If I have more cash, I would have purchase more during the dip.

[@xin579]

Have been watching, enjoying and learning from ur videos. Good job. Can you do a video on the cause of the fall of futu and up fintech shares price. Ur views on the regulations which caused the fall. Thank you

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

The reason for the fall is due to a new law that will regulate the export of personal data, posing a challenge to online brokers that provide cross-border trading services to mainland Chinese citizens (i.e. Futu and Up Fintech). It's still unclear how the new law will be enforced and affect Up Fintech and Futu's online brokerage services.

[@nicholaskoh9182]

Good job! Though I have more than a decade of experience, I still sell out of panic.☺️

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks! We all experience that sometimes

[@CalLim_8]

Great Vid As usual, just saw this after scrolling through your channel. Question: What happens when there is a panic sell for example now with the Ukraine and Russian War. Would it be wise to sell off your convicted position and re-enter the market when the panic has settles down? Or would it be better off just taking the loss and wait for it to rebound?

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks! As long-term investors, we will simply hold onto our high-quality stocks and buy more if they come down to an attractive price.

[@rucacc]

yes i'm down more then 30% on BABA also

[@MsCorydorus]

Good discussion

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks!

[@aaronlim13]

Is Alibaba a good company yes. Is the price very cheap yes. Then wait for what? But remember is a long term game. Is Ifast a good company yes, is Ifast dividend rising yes then wait for what?

[@gohfahliang1374]

Super like to listen, to failure cases business, I think it make us Investor learn faster ✌️

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks Fah Liang! Yes, mistakes are great lessons!

[@brandonchenyl]

Any advice for potential high growth stock like Tesla where they are fundamentally sound and huge growth potential based on their vision. However they are relative expensive in terms of PS ratio. So how to gauge to sell or not if the stock suddenly fall due to overvalue? Is it wise to sell despite a promising future?

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Hi Brandon, this will go back to your investment thesis and the reason why you invested in Tesla in the first place. Did you invest in Tesla because you're confident of its future growth potential? Or did you invest in Tesla because you're looking to profit from its stock price movements? If it's the first reason, why would you sell if Tesla's stock price falls from a peak in the short term? (Assuming you still believe its growth story and long-term fundamentals remain the same.)

[@meldavies9909]

In the case of hospitality REITs Covid has changed the fundamentals of this market over the past 2 years. Given that the share prices have already declined and also the dividends, is it better to take the loss and sell or hold, with the hope that the demand side of the market will pick up? We're seeing travel related stocks start to pick up so should we expect (hope) the same for hotels. Your thoughts?

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

This depends on your time horizon and opportunity cost. Will travel demand eventually return to pre-pandemic levels? Yes, IATA projects that to happen by 2023/24. Are you comfortable waiting for that period? Or would you prefer recycling your capital to a different investment idea? www.channelnewsasia.com/business/scoot-global-aviation-recovery-covid-2023-iata-1936336

[@GammunG]

Thank you for the information. Really appreciate it!! Why and when to sell a stock for me is equally important as buying the stock. Why some stocks have low volume although I found that they have great value. I don't really understand liquidity as I'm new to investing. And is there any solution to the problem?

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks! Liquidity is a function of public float (outstanding shares in the market) and the number of people trading the stock.

[@GammunG]

@@TheFifthPersonChannel I see.. Is there anything company can do to solve liquidity problem in stocks?

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Assuming there is adequate public float, a company can create awareness among investors to drum up interest in its stock (investor relations) and by performing well; a successful company will always attract investors.

[@GammunG]

@@TheFifthPersonChannel thank you. Now I know👍

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

👍👍

[@jefferytjr]

Information is great! Would like to know more about trading platform that you guys using/recommend for sure.

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Thanks! We use Interactive Brokers.

[@KoloYolk]

Out of curiosity, on the flip side, will there be any reason(s) to sell a stock when the dividends are yielding well (considering that fundamentals are solid)? I'd imagine that the only time that is ever reasonable is if you need the funds in an absolute emergency?

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

That really depends on your financial goals. If the stock price has gone up extremely high and you prefer to lock in a few years of dividends upfront, you could consider selling (or maybe sell to cover your principal). But if you're investing for dividends, you can hold onto the stock (assuming fundamentals remain solid) and continue receiving the passive income.

[@liamwright2573]

It’s a fascinating thought hw investors pull through this in the investments space When stocks n coin at a time Inflate and deflate without notice, lol for me I would have had a cardiac arrest longtim!!!😂

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Yes, it can be a roller coaster at times! But if you stick to solid principles and manage your risk well, you'll remain safe at the end.

[@angxiangwei4430]

I am a new investor and I always thought that I am a extremely high risk taker. I invested all the fund into tiger broker shares and now i lost around 70%. I have read and study a lot that I should not panic sell during crisis but the price has been dropping by 10-20% each day. At first I kind of used to the drop but the shares price hit below what I didn’t expected, it make me worried now. Even through China economy is not doing well but president xi is not stopping on the crackdown, what would you do in my position other than average down. I wouldn’t want to sell at a big lost, should I hold it for years till shares price back to normal?

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Hi XiangWei, that's the risk when you go all in on one stock; a big drop hurts a LOT. But if, for example, you had 10 stocks equally weighted in your portfolio, one stock dropping 70% would be a much more manageable 7% dent. Tiger Brokers is in a growing but competitive industry. Many brokers are currently lowering prices and throwing freebies to gain market share. Are you comfortable investing 100% of your portfolio in a company in this industry? Are you confident of Tiger Broker's market position in the industry 3-5 years from now? Let's also say you start all over with whatever amount you have now ($10K for example). Moving forward, would you rather own $10K worth of Tiger stock? Or would you rather own a $10K portfolio of Tencent/Alibaba/Amazon/Google stock? We hope these questions give you more clarity, and help with your decision.

[@ngaikaituck8229]

Going by the gist of the discussion; if no major fundamentals has shifted for the company, u should hold instead is selling at a 70% loss. I m in the same shoes as u and I have averaged down from $16 all the way to $7.90 and I believe that it will recover in 1-2 years . But well that’s just my opinion and u have to go your DD when it comes to investing. All the best in your investing journey.

[@georgewong3210]

Don't follow my footstep.. Forget to sell because trying to be greedy... then suddenly pandemic come and then whole company went chapter 11 and the creditors take the company for the cheap and get delisted or get listed in pinksheet .. Sell when u still have time..

[@wendyyong6499]

Sad I'm still holding on to my losing stocks such as starhub and keppel

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

StarHub is facing structural challenges with the liberalisation of the Singapore telco industry and the loss of Pay TV revenues to OTT players like Netflix, etc.

[@wendyyong6499]

@@TheFifthPersonChannel yeah I need to face the hard truth by getting back whatever money left

[@eugeneteo9664]

cosco,sph,sia all underwater.

[@yp09874]

Sell the stock when the company starts doing illegal stuffs or commit crimes or starts doing business that harms the society as a whole, even if the company performs very good throughout the years

[@aaronlim13]

Very simple good company price big drop good buy. Never buy bad company unless you dare to do day trading. Good company big rise good sell. Always choose company with good dividend that for sure is a good company. But if dividend drop then watch out that company.

[@MrBoliao98]

I think people must learn how lose paper gain. And seriously if you buying for dividend, the stock price is just a number, not anything else. Like wtf that old guy look at price for fk? He should be looking at the dividend.

[@wilfredteo2899]

Sad to say after one year, Meta's fundamentals are gone. It's a sinking business and VR is just wild goose chase with no end in sight, mass adoption isn't just going to happen and very unlikely. Gaming is the only catalyst and even that is lackluster.

[@Lonewolfinvestor888]

Plenty of short term investors becoming long term investors. Go figure the problem

[@Kelberi]

When to sell?.... when the sun sets at east 😅

[@TheFifthPersonChannel]

Haha!