Does Onewheel's new $850+ motor actually make your GT slower?

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The Float Life

The Float Life

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@floatwheel
@floatwheel 10 ай бұрын
My personal favorite would probably be MTE5+N52 magnet put on stock GT stator with GT battery and GTV ESC, tons torque from this set up, range is decent and cusion from 5 inch would make slow trail climb really enjoyable.
@samguy7587
@samguy7587 10 ай бұрын
Love that you give input with the community
@yvesmorin79
@yvesmorin79 10 ай бұрын
This is what i need !!! Hope this GTV ESC arrives soon !!!
@TheGorleone
@TheGorleone 10 ай бұрын
And then send the board to Tony to test the torque 🔥
@ironman6483
@ironman6483 10 ай бұрын
How much longer until the gtv comes out?
@samguy7587
@samguy7587 10 ай бұрын
@@ironman6483 gtv already exists, it’s the name for a GT based vesc
@RTAMOTORSPORTS
@RTAMOTORSPORTS 10 ай бұрын
Curious what the range would be for GTS, GTS stator and GT hub?
@CrobberQ
@CrobberQ 10 ай бұрын
Hi ,would you be able to do a torque and range test of gts motor in the gt platform ? I suspect most of us considering upgrading to the gts motor would be interested in these.. As always appreciate your well presented content. Cheers.
@Sambo_floats
@Sambo_floats 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video!! Definitely need to make the same but all MTE hubs, and the different magnet strengths with both GT and GT S-series swapping stators and boards
@chrisc790
@chrisc790 10 ай бұрын
That is interesting info, however the torque increase I think is what most want to know.
@GUDBYE_92
@GUDBYE_92 10 ай бұрын
Def not worth 950$ but cool to see. Great stats
@josephcase5435
@josephcase5435 9 ай бұрын
would love a video of real world comparisons between the following boards... Standard GT vs. Gt with GTS Motor vs. GT with MTE Hubs Test types - Off the line drag race to compare acceleration and top speeds with a rider - Torque test on a hill or two - Battery longevity with each board Answer this question: For those who dont want GTS that are looking for motor upgrade solutions for the GT, what can you expect to gain from each motor in real world circumstances. No need for the GTS, we all know that the GTS will out perform any GT variation in Torque and speed, but not in battery life. Would love love love to see the a visual comparions of real world ride tests between your MTEs and the GTS motor.
@CHAIRFORCE1.
@CHAIRFORCE1. 10 ай бұрын
If only they sold modular battery’s too
@auston911
@auston911 10 ай бұрын
The podcasts hint that they have a new board and modular battery coming soon, hopefully a collab with floatwheel…
@gomrdog
@gomrdog 10 ай бұрын
are you dumb? a collab with floatwheel😂 LOL@@auston911
@Tactical_Taco
@Tactical_Taco 10 ай бұрын
@@auston911bro what no chance they collab with float wheel
@sendysent
@sendysent 10 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@auston911they will never collab with floatwheel. You’re on crack lol
@majo2626
@majo2626 10 ай бұрын
​@@auston911 did u mean Collab with Floatlife?
@surfdado
@surfdado 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video guys! One thing you should have pointed out is the impacts of this speed reduction at less than full charge. People who say "30MPH is plenty" seem to forget that at 30 percent charge top freewheel speed is only 25MPH, while nosedive speed will be even lower than that...
@ChristopheGUIVANT
@ChristopheGUIVANT 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you... a video with a benchmark that would push the speed of a machine to the nosedive would allow us to know more about the real limits of a Onewheel. All this of course with the weight of the rider, the type of terrain, the wind speed etc... The problem is that the data on this limit does not exist on a Onewheel whereas on a VESC the maximum power percentage reached is measurable.
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
Good point! I need a lab partner here with me on these projects haha 🧑‍🔬
@surfdado
@surfdado 10 ай бұрын
@@TheFloatLife haha I heard you guys have a new hire starting soon😛
@j_p_r4z3r9
@j_p_r4z3r9 10 ай бұрын
Great breakdown of these stats. I'm a speed freak 😊🤙. I already knew in my head that the S-series motor dropped in the Gt would have lower end speed so now im happy I didn't pursue with the purchase. I'm inching closer each week to my 1k mile marker & my motor is doing great so ima keep at it & just keep advancing in other upgrades. Happy you made this video because it proved what I had already thought ✌️😎. Also just wanted to throw in a shout out to you all at the FL that I'm more than happy with my latest upgrades & even tho I've been using the Ignite hex foam over from 1Wparts I'm actually starting to really enjoy yals grip tape for some reason I just feel more locked in on my Kush 🤙. Those cold ones also a game changer in my performance 🤙. Looking forward to more business with you guys ✌️ 🤘
@zachs358
@zachs358 10 ай бұрын
When those looking rings gonna be available, that's my question
@jessebear4164
@jessebear4164 10 ай бұрын
That's what I'm saying
@SeanPaulNotTheSinger
@SeanPaulNotTheSinger 10 ай бұрын
So...as much as I would love to see you guys do another video, I have a GT and GT-S with MTE hubs. Gotta charge them 100, but can get the free wheel speeds.
@SeanPaulNotTheSinger
@SeanPaulNotTheSinger 10 ай бұрын
GT with the MTE (n48) and Enduro 555 = 33/34 MPH GT-S with the MTE (n48) and Maxxis Rain = 41 MPH Ran the test four times with each board to ensure consistent readings. I'm not going to swap stators around, but it was certainly interesting. Regardless of this result, we really should see what the torque and heat differences are for the various setups, you know, for the 5% of min/max riders out there (and the morbidly curious, like me).
@jignas_ride
@jignas_ride 8 ай бұрын
A video on thermal performance of MTE hubs would be interesting
@DasAquaman
@DasAquaman 10 ай бұрын
Thinking of snagging an MTE for my GT, you should do a comparison video on the different ones of those too 🤙
@michaelmcadams9991
@michaelmcadams9991 10 ай бұрын
This is what I was wondering too. How does MTE and various parts compare?
@TheAnimeist
@TheAnimeist 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see low speed torque tests. Especially for curb nudges and bonks. Anything over 30 (20 really) is too aggressive for me.
@supermane2281
@supermane2281 10 ай бұрын
Where does one get that golden metal lock ring for the hub cable?
@Julian3vil
@Julian3vil 10 ай бұрын
This video is Awesome!! This is why we need right to repair! How cool is to try all possible swaps . I was surprised free spin speed isn't that much higher than OG pint and XR.
@JoachimLashutka
@JoachimLashutka 10 ай бұрын
ok, so we all see the leds under the kush wide. Great. Here's a few observations. It has led's therefore having the proper bottom profile for leds similar to the kush lo. It also has the same two cutouts near the tire side of the pad (for a power cable for the lights) as the kush lo. I noticed a few more things, but I don't want this comment to turn into a book, so TLDR, when is the kush wide v2 gonna drop? @thefloatlife
@CRTTvPlus
@CRTTvPlus 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video Jeff! It would be very cool to see similar video, but measuring torque gain/loss.
@agustintajch
@agustintajch 10 ай бұрын
I’m a BIG fan of your content, you guys are amazing! I would love to see a comparison between torque. I’m a big guy and I love my GT, but a bit more torque would be perfect. 🎉
@Full_Send_Luke
@Full_Send_Luke 10 ай бұрын
More testing 🙏🙏🙏I want to see it all!!!
@deanaoxo
@deanaoxo 10 ай бұрын
I'm leaning more and more to the Cannon Core motor in an XR package. WTF's of course. . . CBXR size battery pack, and of course, VESC.
@CayoticProphet
@CayoticProphet 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your hard work Jeff! Thermal comparisons would be interesting if you had the optics for it.
@chriscarcio261
@chriscarcio261 8 ай бұрын
Most definitely more videos like this!! MtE/6”/billet all on different kinds of variations like this video would be sweet! This is such a cool and informative video! Thank you and please, yes, more!!! ❤tfl!
@mgamma5001
@mgamma5001 4 ай бұрын
Right on, please do a speed, power and performance on the street with straight-line and hill climb and whatever else that can give a good feel for the variants.
@yes_just_phil
@yes_just_phil 10 ай бұрын
love it! test everything possible. we will watch and support!
@sp1d3
@sp1d3 10 ай бұрын
Got me wanting to go ride too thanks jeff
@therealbergexperience5640
@therealbergexperience5640 10 ай бұрын
Love it. Glad I went with the billet. Great vid!!
@collinc2343
@collinc2343 10 ай бұрын
Awesome breakdown! Would love to see some testing of that high speed setup.
@Fric_k
@Fric_k 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for doing this test!
@conradopoole
@conradopoole 10 ай бұрын
@TheFloatLife my GTS with N52 MTE just did 38mph at 64% battery, so I guess it’d be pretty close to 40mph at 100%, virtually matching stock hub
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
Yeah that's expected. After further research, I think GT-S hub is N52 also
@conradopoole
@conradopoole 10 ай бұрын
@@TheFloatLifejust tested it at full charge, 41mph
@PEVD_Weston
@PEVD_Weston 10 ай бұрын
Good stuff. I feel thermals vs weight is the biggest challenge on VESC. Love the data.
@RichardDemsick
@RichardDemsick 6 ай бұрын
How you passed over the “tired” pun after being exhausted replacing tires I’ll never know
@floating_ojo
@floating_ojo 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service. This experiment has sold me on stronger magnets for an aftermarket hub
@Fresh-n-Dirty
@Fresh-n-Dirty 10 ай бұрын
Should make a video with the best GT setup for speeds under pushback and up to pushback, cuz I’m not tryna go stuid high speeds. 20mph fine with me 😂 As in the best low end torque, for getting speed.. crushing trails., ect
@JohnCena-yu3vw
@JohnCena-yu3vw 10 ай бұрын
Been waiting on this and expected this outcome, I love the actual tests w numbers 💪🏻 thanks guys would love to see the mte n42 on a gts and gt to see those top speeds and if they could be faster then stock maybe the mte/+tire would be lighter then gt hubs/+tire and have a lighter rotational mass and have even higher top end
@tylerkrug7719
@tylerkrug7719 10 ай бұрын
More onewheel competitions also,those were dope!
@OnewheelAdventures
@OnewheelAdventures 10 ай бұрын
I need one of those lock rings jeff!
@joshua1577
@joshua1577 10 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff, can you measure the GT stater from the end of the axle to the tip of the plug and then measure the GTS stater the same way curious to see the differences in length because you mentioned that they were different
@RTAMOTORSPORTS
@RTAMOTORSPORTS 10 ай бұрын
MTE hub test please!
@FloatinCanada
@FloatinCanada 10 ай бұрын
More floatwheel videos and talk about future accessories?
@nathanvires
@nathanvires 10 ай бұрын
What does the S stand for? Sucker is what the S stands for... 😂
@freerideziege6047
@freerideziege6047 10 ай бұрын
You wanna count/compare the polepairs/magnet pairs? The speed schould not change at the same controller when the Motor has the same number of polepairs. Therefor I guess thats the difference.
@brahamyoung1951
@brahamyoung1951 10 ай бұрын
Having coffee &watching Thanks. From Downunder
@iancooper7320
@iancooper7320 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for that. I think we were all wondering
@Davidwhat
@Davidwhat 10 ай бұрын
thanks. 👍 we need a range test on the GT with the GTS motor on it....
@RichHyPro
@RichHyPro 10 ай бұрын
So not sure if the coldones would impact the test but I really enjoyed the data
@zacharydewitte384
@zacharydewitte384 10 ай бұрын
that pad on the back is fire ngl might convice me to get one like that
@Fresh-n-Dirty
@Fresh-n-Dirty 10 ай бұрын
I got a GT. We have pushback.. so make the ride you got till pushback better. So yes slower with GT-S motor but the ride to pushback would be more enjoyable. Not worth $911 tho.. guess I stay GT 🤙
@richardpalan
@richardpalan 9 ай бұрын
Hey floatlife Do you prefer lowboy footpad or flat kick footpads? Thanks
@x6737
@x6737 10 ай бұрын
It seems like the magnet difference is really the only benefit from the GTS motor on the GT. Without additional voltage, it doesn't seem like you can take advantage of the improved GTS stator. This has been super informative for me, since I was leaning toward the GTS motor purchase for the additional torque (I weigh 200lbs and broke my leg on the GT last year...). Now I'm wondering why I should pay for that when I can get a 5" MTE hub with improved magnets PLUS a new Enduro for less, especially since it seems like the magnets are the only thing I'm paying for with a new GTS motor.... Thoughts?
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
You're thinking exactly what I was thinking
@MrDmadness
@MrDmadness 10 ай бұрын
6ou are always better moving in a direction away from future motion. Personally if I were in your shoes I'd get the mte and a tire for less.. its imo a no brainer as it shows the lengths future motion will go to to decieve its customers.
@x6737
@x6737 10 ай бұрын
@@TheFloatLife BTW, I love my Kush Wide front footpad- you guys need to start making those so I don't have to mad scientist that shit on my own....
@MrDmadness
@MrDmadness 7 ай бұрын
@PrestigeWheelRide whats the gtv? Im assuming gt vesc ? . The motor windings of the gt and gts are the same iirc. Check ohms through both, if the resistance is the sane then so are the windings, i cannot remember at this time .
@paulshapiro6119
@paulshapiro6119 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant OneWheel science! In God we trust, all others must bring data. This was so informative.
@bustergb13
@bustergb13 10 ай бұрын
I dig all the videos you guys make. Keep them coming. Still wanted to see how the most expensive board ever performed. Because I'm pretty much doing that build through you guys. Thanks again! ❤
@denischuiko3901
@denischuiko3901 10 ай бұрын
It would be great to see more trials with GTs motor in Gt. Max speed without load is not informative. Tork, max distance, battery life. If it works, 850 $ instead of 3200$, is a pretty good deal. Keep going, guys!
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
Just swapping for a GT-S motor on a GT makes it nowhere near a GT-S
@jeremyschuster3627
@jeremyschuster3627 9 ай бұрын
But that would make a good video. Hill climb, and range
@c0pyimitati0n
@c0pyimitati0n 10 ай бұрын
GT-S= Guaranteed Tremendous Safety You can thank Larry David for that one 😂
@HillFarmVideos
@HillFarmVideos 10 ай бұрын
Whats going on with FLoatwheel?
@OaklynMediaLLC
@OaklynMediaLLC 10 ай бұрын
GET THIS MAN A MUG!!!
@aircraftmech123456
@aircraftmech123456 10 ай бұрын
Thats interesting, but what about on a Pint X?
@jaefrmbk2k
@jaefrmbk2k 10 ай бұрын
please temperature performance
@bjbarlowe
@bjbarlowe 10 ай бұрын
I’m a big guy and I’m really curious if a GTs motor in my GT would help me get up and down more hills more safely.
@thewheelneil1379
@thewheelneil1379 10 ай бұрын
it'll prevent overheating. Mild torque gain.
@austinday4835
@austinday4835 10 ай бұрын
The metal lock ring tho 👀
@SpicyFPV
@SpicyFPV 10 ай бұрын
I don't ride my OW for speed, so the top end data is kind of lackluster. The torque is the key bit I would want to know if spending that $900 is worth it or not. I only ride my GT at around 19-20mph, which it can already do, I just don't like how paranoid I have to be of nose dives because the torque isn't there. Especially offroad.
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
Shoot, you could spend way less than that, swap to a N52 MTE and gain all the sidewall AND all the torque of the GT-S motor swap. That's the big brain move right there.
@SpicyFPV
@SpicyFPV 10 ай бұрын
@@TheFloatLife What’s the difference between the grizzly steel and grizzly ceramic bearings?
@DSC1320
@DSC1320 10 ай бұрын
ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE MAGNETS. Magnets play a huge roll in torque but what you aren't talking about more than saying windings is the KV.. the GTS stator is definitely a lower KV hence the more Voltage. Anytime you use more voltage you lower the kv.. that's why the gts runs cooler.
@chriscarcio261
@chriscarcio261 9 ай бұрын
It means if you have a gts and a gt in a way you can use W’s. Because you can just put the wheel on and not update the software on your GT. So you could make two hybrid boards if you just swap the wheels definitely coolest video ever!! Opened up a few things. I wasn’t sure of thank you, Jeff and TFL crew!!
@Ruanzapata
@Ruanzapata 10 ай бұрын
Hi jeff , is it possible to pit gts motor in xr . I am an old floater , and my xr is diying
@AlbertoNoys
@AlbertoNoys 10 ай бұрын
How many times did have to say "GT hub" so that it matched for the dubbing? Haha
@vdmx2824
@vdmx2824 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see a gt with gts motor vs a gts race, torque and range test! I know its alot, but please guys 🤗
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
GTS would be way faster. GT with GTS motor is slower than a regular GT at the top end.
@vdmx2824
@vdmx2824 10 ай бұрын
@@TheFloatLife did you test for torque and range. I dont really mind for top speed, bit if I dont get more torque or lower range than a gts I might just sell my gt and get the gts
@dee2ski
@dee2ski 10 ай бұрын
Turns out I shoulda paid more attention in Science class, so many numbers and variations :)
@iliciepi736
@iliciepi736 7 ай бұрын
Does anybody know what are the dimensions of these stators?
@fernandovasquez2778
@fernandovasquez2778 10 ай бұрын
I been a little down since the GTS came out. Seemed like alot of people got really good all the sudden.. like that new board keeps you up or something 😮 there are so many different mods to going fast and getting max stabilization that I just don't know what to do. It feels like I just bought a GT but now it seems like the worst board out but it gets more distance then any others. Kinda irritated with all the changes coming out right after buying a GT... I am not a happy onewheelrr. Hopefully I get my feels back into the sport some how soon. Definitely don't want to spend that money on a GTS..
@TheHitman-
@TheHitman- 10 ай бұрын
Euc Veteran lnyx and never look back!
@milesonewheelwinter
@milesonewheelwinter 10 ай бұрын
Dude go away w that. Just because you aren't up to it doesn't mean everybody else shouldn't be​@TheHitman-
@TheHitman-
@TheHitman- 10 ай бұрын
@@milesonewheelwinter Why would I go away with anything? Who are you to tell me that 🤔 I can talk because I have experience with ow probably alot more than you and I'm showing new better options if you don't like it you can just keep your mouth closed...that is an option. Hey like share and subscribe buddy. 😉
@fluxrez
@fluxrez 10 ай бұрын
NICE little dub there
@ricardocasanova7256
@ricardocasanova7256 6 ай бұрын
We need to see these bad bois in action. #WeNeedPart2
@zachs358
@zachs358 10 ай бұрын
Thermal testing please! I can only imagine that 44 mph motor literally cooking
@celestewilliams5681
@celestewilliams5681 10 ай бұрын
That 44mph freespin sound is insane
@kylevanness6182
@kylevanness6182 10 ай бұрын
Someone tuned a vesc to freespin I think 150mph a year or two ago I think his motor broke shortly after but it sounded like turning on a band saw 😂
@nicholasdorazio10
@nicholasdorazio10 10 ай бұрын
​@@kylevanness6182 WOOOW SHREDDING!!
@xenoir2295
@xenoir2295 10 ай бұрын
Could this be done to a pint x or pint?
@randomreviewer2658
@randomreviewer2658 10 ай бұрын
Will putting the guys motor in make the range lower. I assume because it has more torque it would draw more power
@TheHitman-
@TheHitman- 10 ай бұрын
I finally switched to euc, what was i waiting for? 😂No more struggling with fm, veteran lynx people!
@isaachaley1397
@isaachaley1397 9 ай бұрын
Question what that your first Euc and if it is how was learning on it
@jaefrmbk2k
@jaefrmbk2k 6 ай бұрын
nah shoulda went VESC 🎉
@TheHitman-
@TheHitman- 6 ай бұрын
@@jaefrmbk2k I've ridden a vesc wheel ill pass.
@TheHitman-
@TheHitman- 6 ай бұрын
@isaachaley1397 About a day or so. If you can skate you can do it easy.
@crashintome74
@crashintome74 10 ай бұрын
How about with the MTE? On the GTS?
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
Maybe the next video!
@misfitmdhz
@misfitmdhz 10 ай бұрын
Jeff, you're awesome.
@OaklynMediaLLC
@OaklynMediaLLC 10 ай бұрын
Can I put it on my XR+?
@0newheeldrives
@0newheeldrives 10 ай бұрын
You should do this with MTE!!
@DomTatts
@DomTatts 10 ай бұрын
Can you put it on a XR??
@baileyanderson2166
@baileyanderson2166 10 ай бұрын
Cool stats that’s was great!
@MrDmadness
@MrDmadness 10 ай бұрын
Imagine spending $900 to make your board SLOWER??!?! ... this shows just how far future motion will go to decieve their customers and take your money. I would not trust them at all that the new motor will increase torque on the gt, though in electrical theory it would work as the voltage going into the kotor is the same.. JEFF test the resistance between the + and - motor connections on gt and gts motors. Im gonna bet that the resistance is greater on th.e gts, which is exactly where your voltage is going, it could still in theory have more torque ( more windings = greater ohms )
@seadoo2224
@seadoo2224 10 ай бұрын
Float on brother🎉
@shadmcdaniel4184
@shadmcdaniel4184 10 ай бұрын
I knew it. I hit a much higher top speed my FIRST week on a GT than with my GT”s” will ever give me😢.
@thewheelneil1379
@thewheelneil1379 10 ай бұрын
That doesn't make sense.
@shadmcdaniel4184
@shadmcdaniel4184 10 ай бұрын
@@thewheelneil1379which, stock GT or “s” will hit a higher top speed? I’m not so inclined to find out these days but I think my suspicions are clear sir
@thewheelneil1379
@thewheelneil1379 10 ай бұрын
@@shadmcdaniel4184 GTS is much faster and safer at higher speeds than GT.
@garrymullins
@garrymullins 10 ай бұрын
Lmao that outro.
@chuck__van
@chuck__van 10 ай бұрын
Torque tests! 🫶 pls
@majo2626
@majo2626 10 ай бұрын
That Floatwheel tyre tho 😄
@deemontes7265
@deemontes7265 10 ай бұрын
WTF are you doing 😂 intro came in 100 mph
@Shreditation_Nation
@Shreditation_Nation 10 ай бұрын
Jeff, where’s your lab coat bro? You went full science mode. Great video as always!!!
@DaveMichael42
@DaveMichael42 10 ай бұрын
Great video Jeff!
@DaveMichael42
@DaveMichael42 10 ай бұрын
I tested my GT with the MTE N48 and got 34 mph! 🤩
@tylerkrug7719
@tylerkrug7719 10 ай бұрын
More tests!
@GiovanniGiorgo
@GiovanniGiorgo 10 ай бұрын
Now if there was only a way to do a Cannon Core drop in to a GT/S…..
@tigerjuju
@tigerjuju 10 ай бұрын
Good interesting video to demonstrate how various tech spec affect performance. For real world users with real world money, definitely not worth the time and effort. Just go get a god damn FW and call it a day.
@zalla135
@zalla135 10 ай бұрын
Interesting
@spencer7075
@spencer7075 10 ай бұрын
very interesting
@JohnJamesJacoby
@JohnJamesJacoby 10 ай бұрын
#first and also my prediction is: there are probably better places to put $850
@brodyport6395
@brodyport6395 10 ай бұрын
“Guys it’s an upgrade” (trust me bro)
@DannyVdesign
@DannyVdesign 10 ай бұрын
Magnets! How do they even work?
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