Treyarch responds to Liberty Falls hate (Black Ops 6 Zombies backlash response)

[@TheGamingRevo]

**update** This video got demonetised for supposed “violence” some reason. I tried appealing with KZbin and they kept just giving me bot responses. Complete joke. - Try the In Sink prologue for FREE & Wishlist lurk.ly/riUvEN Join their Discord for an extended demo soon! - discord.com/invite/ccyzZzagxW Perfect puzzle game for Zombies fans! (AD) The Venturebeat interview - venturebeat.com/game-development/black-ops-6-beta-shows-off-omni-movement-and-new-maps-call-of-duty-interview/ Timestamps: 0:00 Treyarch's first response to Liberty Falls backlash 4:56 Perfect puzzle game for Zombies fans! 7:19 Second response to Liberty Falls backlash 8:56 Two maps meant to be radically different experiences 10:01 They learned from BO4 having too many maps day 1 13:55 Liberty Falls Easter egg will be huge 16:02 Treyarch hints Liberty Falls is bigger than we saw

[@zegroselia2504]

If you happen to show blood or gore in the first 15 seconds of a video it will get demonitised, try delaying the gameplay a bit before any killing happens.

[@trevorwalsh9443]

Apparently it’s Bigger then MW 3 BR map and MW2 BR 2 map Combined.

[@ThatWarlockBoi]

It could be from showing the mutant injection, Milo mentioned that every one of his videos that had that got instantly demonetized

[@garretmc494]

Zombies is going through its own "Jetpack era." we'll eventually see the return of "Boots on the ground," aka classic zombies era just like we saw for mp

[@adam_post]

Only thing is jet pack era was 2014-2016. Zombies has been in this from 2018 to now. Not to say Black Ops 4 is particularly bad but it was the start of the main changes. I wonder how Cold War zombies would’ve been without Warzone lol

[@ifsax]

This “era” of zombies has been wildly more successful than classic zombies, so I doubt it

[@LSB44446]

@@ifsaxNo it hasn't lol

[@shaun_the_sheip2775]

There's so many people that are now nostalgic for the jetpack era, and wont play the new stuff. Thats the problem, cod has such a huge player base and so many games that set a standard that makes impossible to appeal to everyone. There will always be complaints and incessant whining.

[@ifsax]

@@LSB44446 it absolutely has in every way that matters to Activision: retention and sales.

[@mikesshowcase8513]

I love how everyone has immediately forgotten about Terminus Island lol

[@zanerinsane1574]

Literally. They keep acting as if it’s the ONLY map we have. Terminus looks like a bo3 map in my honest opinion

[@liltoad9050]

​@@zanerinsane1574zetsubou 2

[@howaish4819]

@@zanerinsane1574you saw it without a hud😂 u want zombies having health bars and rarity in weapons and armor those things suck

[@mikesshowcase8513]

@@zanerinsane1574 They even described it as a cross between BO3 and Cold War which gives me hope! I’m excited to try it out personally

[@mikesshowcase8513]

@@howaish4819 It’s just how it is now sadly. Thankfully you can turn shit like the health bars and points (I believe) off. However, I do agree the incorporation of Warzone elements isn’t great but the drops are player specific and you can customize your weapons this time around

[@Longboarder420brah]

idk what people are talking about with lack of atmosphere...there doesnt appear to be any debris or meteors coming down, and the air is breathable, we can confirm this by observing the operators appear to be breathing, and dont appear to be melting alive due to radiation... just a weird take

[@drunkedhusky24]

Yeah but theres a dimensional breach going on so a little stormy cloud and rain wouldnt hurt nobody right? 🍷🧐

[@Longboarder420brah]

@@drunkedhusky24 damn man ur right, i wish there was a dark and stormy/gloomy zombies map in the game, boy would that be neat

[@drunkedhusky24]

@@Longboarder420brah not night time really but like the storm is just starting so its not like im skip jumping with a gun while "wouldnt be nice to live forever" plays on background, we need to teach them some chaos to the new players

[@jarrettmaynard6306]

​@Longboarder420brah there's a difference between being in a town where there's this dreary sense of "wtf just happened here" and then no unique style, that's liberty balls for ya

[@billanderson369]

@@Longboarder420brahlet’s say you have two meals one day one being fantastic and the other one being shit on burnt toast. Would you be happy just because the first meal was amazing? Terminus looks great but that doesn’t mean we should settle for a aura lacking second map.

[@user-xv3qy6nn3k]

bo6 zombies feels as if ur playing warzone with zombies and not a dedicated zombies mode. Thats where the main criticism is.

[@ChildishKevino]

"We heard the community" All you did was make the gameplay round based and did not address anything else the community did not enjoy from the recent zombies content. The whole "Round based is back!" just feels like such a baited cash grab move.

[@Longboarder420brah]

sir i believe that statement was meant for Vanguard Zombies, youre a few years late!

[@orrgroup9928]

@@Longboarder420brah name something that they improved on that people disliked about new zombies

[@malachaiward1659]

@@Longboarder420brahno………. That was a selling point for bo6. Oof if you’re gonna try to be a smartass know what you’re talking about. Now you just sound dumb.

[@isopropylalcohol7792]

Round based, return of crews, harder Easter eggs, better atmosphere on Terminus, story told through map, not Intel, Focus on round based without adding other experimental modes, etc. Theyve addressed and changed a lot of what people wanted.

[@DylanoLandman]

@@isopropylalcohol7792But not the Multiplayer and Warzone aspects of the game. The entire Triple Pack A Punch and Rarety System fits in a 2000 Points Perk called Double Tap 2.0 Scorestreaks are not Zombies related and shouldn’t be in Zombies at all. Ground Loot and Armor is a Warzone Thing and it shouldn’t affect the core Zombies Gameplay. There was nothing wrong with finding Shield Pieces and building a Shield, just a few games or a YT guide and you will know every spawn location of every Shield Piece without even looking. There was also nothing wrong with the old Point System, and it was fun to create a strategy to optimise Points. Loadouts are an overrated luxury, it takes away of the whole point of Survival and getting better through the progression of that match. And the fact that Jug is just 3 doors away is also destroying the point of Survival and trying to safe yourself until you finally get the chance to buy Jug so you can feel safe. So no, they didn’t adress all complaints. And no-one give me that crap of “Just start with a Pistol” it’s not the same, many video’s are about that topic.

[@ZombieNausea]

Funny how they can keep the delay on the Gobblegum machine but NOT the Pack-A-Punch... Gums can have that little extra challenge when you grab them but PaP can't?

[@DylanoLandman]

Lol, you’re right. I thought about that as well, it’s really stupid.

[@seanobrienplays688]

Why does something this God damn small matter? You're trying to find something to complain about.

[@DylanoLandman]

@@seanobrienplays688 You have zero control in the few seconds you crack your knuckles, and if Zombies are sprinting in your ass your survivability hangs on the line. And it has been a staple in Zombies since day 1. And it’s sooooooo god damn easy for them to implement, that is why we give critique NOT COMPLAIN.

[@ZombieNausea]

@@seanobrienplays688 keep playing Cold War, you obviously either have no taste or haven't played anything else..

[@current3109]

@@seanobrienplays688you’re part of the problem 😂

[@dreamsdicc1817]

Liberty falls is shipment for zombies

[@ZombieNausea]

Liberty Fails is Sh*tmint for Zombies..

[@Anonymous-pf5bz]

@@ZombieNausea oldhead

[@mattmillie007]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@Napzie]

Back in my days shipment for zombies was literally Town/Kino/Nacht/Der Riese.

[@SalVitroNY]

& I’ll take it! Love shipment & zombies but hate dark ass depressing maps

[@chasebishop309]

i just hope that liberty falls is the only map that is meant to be “simple”

[@Quackra]

From what I've heard, it's supposed to be the only simple map

[@ahzora8017]

@@QuackraLiberty balls being a simple map isn’t the problem the problem is it’s too bland

[@Quackra]

@@ahzora8017 You're arguing for literally no reason. I was just stating what I have heard. The issues you are saying may not even be fully 100% the case about the map. On a surface level it's definitely lacks character, but we still have yet to see what happens in other areas of the map that were locked off

[@ProdLucio]

@@Quackrayou can make a simple map without it looking garbage

[@draftahh4568]

Stop making a games for " Streamers" like you used to do 12 years ago .

[@epicgamerhours7287]

The pinnacle of what bothers the older zombies community is they’re removing the skill from it: You have a minimap telling you exactly where you’re going. You have armor on top of Jugg to take (14!!) hits. You spawn in with a broken loadout so you don’t have to worry about buying wall weapons or the RNG from the box. You have plenty of room so you never can get trapped. You can see health bars above zombies so you know when a zombie is about to die. No one is against innovation. But this isn’t that. This is catering to the lowest percentile of the fanbase.

[@4soull2]

yessir these are exactly my complaints as well as no characters and the weapon rarity thing

[@mattmillie007]

Shoulda put hounds on Liberty Falls. It’d fit the area residential/town theme much much better.

[@whitewidow9046]

Hellcats

[@suje809]

They did not listen to the community

[@isaacfaith9369]

They haven't listened to the community since Bo3.

[@SalVitroNY]

Thats because the community doesn’t agree on all aspects . 1/2 the community likes new modern zombies. There’s also a huge percentage that’s don’t even like RBZ & prefer open world like outbreak or MWZ. WAW players hated BO1. BO1 players hated BO2. BO2 players hated BO3. BO3 players hated BO4 & you see where this is going?

[@grannde_]

They could’ve made the map feel and look more like zombies so you could have a rich experience that’s also not as hard as other maps

[@MrBlonday]

Kino is the PERFECT example. Easy, fun, chill and dripping with atmosphere and aesthetic. They could made a super casual map at least look appealing. Liberty falls looks so boringgggg

[@philly940]

Bo4 was the last true black ops game, I liked coldwar but it wasn’t the same and bo6 feels more like a modern warfare zombies experience. Such a shame

[@majorpeepo]

As much as no one will agree with you I'm gonna agree

[@adhumbla1153]

It wasn't meant to be the same

[@NCCalvin9]

Yea but bo4 is still average at best

[@realruntz2608]

While Bo4 had its flaws, it still felt like a black ops game.

[@F1RST_BLUD1]

Eh I'm still gonna like modern zombies it's imo You can nostalgia glaze u want or classy I'm still gonna enjoy the zombies

[@damienwhite3585]

Zombies never held our hand before you just had to learn on the go. Like yes I find it good we got 2 maps but catering to non zombies kinda stumbles over zombies players.

[@Steven-hc1vy]

I don’t get why they don’t do what bo4 did. Have a dumb little tutorial mode and nobody can bitch about not knowing enough to play maps. Going from the difficulty of bo4 to cw was like an insult

[@alexlolli2325]

That’s why there’s the regular mode for plays like u who don’t want to be hand held. See what a good game bo6 is?

[@Nom.0]

honestly im going to say it... theyre talking about nacht, kino, town, the basic fun maps that you can just hop in and fuck around with that have no EEs, no complexities, just chill, straightforward maps.

[@jacobie4521]

I mean yea the problem i see is all of those maps reek characters liberty has nothing like that besides the dark ether church 🤷‍♂️

[@kylerkeys]

cod playerbase try not to whine about everything challenge

[@yourin8er]

Treyarch try to listen to the community challenge.

[@JackRippa-bq9qo]

Its called criticism

[@joshprather8049]

If anyone deserves not to be trusted to put out a good product it’s Activision so I think it’s fine if there’s a lot of criticism

[@Longboarder420brah]

you could give that group that does it exactly what they say they want and theyd whine.

[@Grrrr_bow]

Challenge failed 😂

[@defectivedragon]

The one thing I don’t like, is the reuse of old bosses, let the mangler go! He is a Russian zombie, why is he in an American map? why is this massive beast in the early days of an outbreak? It doesn’t make sense

[@MWM219]

@TheGamingRevo Please make this point for me in your videos, I've noticed that when you guys talk about how there's no main crew for liberty falls that no one has ever brought up in correlation that this is usually where Treyarch would have had a guest crew, or celebrity crew for these type of maps and it was the perfect opportunity with this map could of had a random guy from the town, Blanchard I believe was his name from the intro, so many options honestly , and I feel this is a good enough point and missed opportunity that it needed to be called out thanks

[@prettymucheverything1033]

The biggest fan service we’ve gotten from activision was allowing a single round based map on Vanguard when they had no plans to do so. I believe that was a shift made entirely by the community. Of course the story is heating up more so we’ll have to see but gameplay wise I don’t understand why round based is the only thing activision thinks will bring everything together.

[@deyarmin9911]

I wish rhe cod communtiy would stop trying to eat itself alive and actually come together to get the changes that we want made. Buuuut nooooo buch of people love crying on both sides and love kissing Activision's ass. Like seriously if we stopped playing and buying the games they will listen. Buuuut noooooo again. Yall are to damn stubborn and ignorant to band together.

[@Longboarder420brah]

i agree but at the same time... last time this was achieved it caused everyone in WZ to sound like theyre wearing wooden boots because people blamed ''audio'' for dying :(

[@danikaflorence444]

Cry harder

[@deyarmin9911]

@@danikaflorence444 cute. Have fun trolling? Hope so. Makes for a sad life nerd.

[@alex____5602]

I wonder if Bethesda helped at all with liberty falls, since they also made their own harpers ferry in fallout 76.

[@Quackra]

Highly unlikely just because the acquisition was too recent to have been anything along those lines. On top of it, Zenimax would have to work with Activision before Bethesda would help with anything CoD related even if Microsoft owns both.

[@OriiPingu]

Activision and Bethesda are both owned by Microsoft too, so the possibility is even more there.

[@arandompanda1349]

Lazy map design, lazy HUD, no love was put into this map, they can claim for it to be casual as much they want, this basically looks like a unused warzone part of map that they transitioned to zombies in order to claim they have 2 maps at launch.

[@lepaul_Official]

even "five" was way more Epic than liberty falls. dunno what he is talking about a "Not so deep experience"

[@lupercal8997]

He didn't misspeak. He was talking about BO3. The point he was making was that Liberty Falls is supposed to be The Giant. Designed as a far more simple experience for people to just catwalk camp and slay zombies.

[@garretmc494]

That's an insult to The Giant.

[@Zackrey507mx]

The giant, even being simple, is 10x the zombie map that liberty falls is, look at even nach, small map, no PAC a Punch, yet the most iconic map of all time. Casual doesn’t have to mean lame.

[@theironquack]

Kino has pack a punch ​@Zackrey507mx

[@shawdnaasty]

The giant was sold to us as a bonus map which this hasn't been advertised for at all. This is a fully fledged map

[@Darkour97]

That's a horrible call back if that's what they did.

[@MyneOwneNarrator]

Ya'll gotta realize, its not the entire cod community whining about liberty falls, its the cod zombies community, by far the quietest, least toxic part of the community that really doesn't whine about a lot of stuff. If they're making this much ruckus, then Treyarch fucked up big time

[@tarantolopictures481]

Yeah, liberty falls is my last complaint about BO6. I’ve been yearning for a simple and casual map for zombies for awhile since they kinda stopped doing that after BO2. I still hate salvage, kill streaks, and armor plates.

[@aki_nter]

I agree, but you can run without lull streaks and without armour

[@ProphetOfDoubt]

Stop the copium. I seriously doubt they specifically made the game easier for the event, I’m more convinced the game is just that easy.

[@TheGamingRevo]

The people who played terminus said ammo was limited and then they had a ridiculous amount of ammo at the event. Definitely suggests they made it easier.

[@ProphetOfDoubt]

@@TheGamingRevo do you think other than the ammo they manipulated anything else? I saw something that said you can take 14+ hits or something before you go down. That’s ridiculous

[@FizzyFizze]

I think people are getting angry at Liberty Falls too early and are forming opinions with limited footage/gameplay. Its fine to not be excited for the map with what was shown, however people should understand that we normies have not gotten our hands on the mode and watching gameplay versus actually playing it is vastly different

[@xKrosivex]

Can we only rely on fromsoft now to give a challenge without caring about how hard the boss might be 😂

[@doomjoltfromflordia4069]

The future maps better not just be liberty falls otherwise it be the archon all over again why would you suggest this

[@BigBird-]

They should just stop showing the games early. It clearly just divides everyone.

[@current3109]

One big thing missing from zombies is the badass soundtrack

[@Om_64.]

Remember when they used to do the cool zombie music videos?

[@edwardgonzalez409]

It doesn’t look like zombies. You’re even saying it yourself. It’s likely going to be the most played zombies map due to its intended accessibility. It should have served as an intro and show more themes and specifically effects around the map to get the casual players to want to try more of what they see

[@CashCrazy-vg4iq]

WE WANT A ZOMBIE CHRONICALS 2 WITH TRANZIT REMASTER . I bet if they bring it back with a few maps with blue EYED zombies. IT WOULD BE THE BEST SALEING CALL OF DUTY SINCE BLACK OPS 2 BUT U HAVE TO GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT .

[@ytpuppetx3865]

Warzone killed zombies if this year fails

[@SlowNSteady123]

This situation wouldn’t be as bad if people weren’t so quick to absolutely slob on Activision and Treyarch’s knob. For anyone who’s disappointed in the current trajectory of zombies there’s at least 2 other people willing to defend their precious mega corporation because they have terrible taste in video games.

[@apache8851]

Im excited for bo6

[@jasonsmith530]

Yeah the beta was great

[@Strat853]

Same

[@Ali-zw8nh]

Bot

[@ryanhammond8292]

I'm excited too it's all pre installed on my Xbox

[@glitchingghost7560]

Shhhhh Don’t say that you’re not supposed to be excited about something you may like

[@domlewis9259]

Has the joke about Kevin drew looking like Gordon freeman been made yet?

[@Quackra]

You're the first person I've seen say this, and I don't quite see it

[@robbythebone]

Just do a bo3 Zombies , with different Maps , and Boom u got. the Best Zombies 💁🏻‍♂️

[@Zeal1103]

Orrr you get people mad at you for making the exact same game from 7 years ago.

[@brysonaronsohn]

Can’t say until launch how good it’s gonna be

[@CrazedCowboi]

“Both maps playable at launch makes it epic” okay lady calm down 2 maps at launch is the norm, standard, nothing special to OG players. Idk I’m honestly more excited for the new battlefield, I trust them more than activision right now

[@Kinju_Otsutsuki]

I hate all this baby spoon fed content and also are they going to be catering for noobs for the rest of our lives orrrrr will people finally notice struggling to get good at a game is part of the process

[@CrazedCowboi]

@@Kinju_Otsutsuki i love this comment, unfortunately I think our era has passed. Seeing how good you stacked up your first day of a new cod and trying to get better everyday so you would be dominating was part of the fun of a new cod, that definitely has been lost since live seasonal content and warzone made its appearance

[@Co_OpGreg]

I would honestly go back to the paid dlc of the past in a hearbeat if it guaranteed us 3-4 amazing dlc zombie maps

[@CrazedCowboi]

@@Co_OpGreg I’m been commenting the same thing, it was so much more worth it to buy cod and the season pass back in the day than it is now, you buy the regular game and feel somewhat robbed with the lack luster quality

[@breadsticks992]

The mutation for me doesn’t make a lot of sense, in my opinion they just wanted an excuse to use more already made assets when they could’ve had us turn into something much cooler like.. idk AN ACTUAL MUTATED CHARACTER? What about turning yourself into a robotic cyborg even is a mutation? Oh right that’s not even a mutation at all, that would be a transformation..

[@mindiopzz5010]

imo liberty falls really just shouldve been an extra thing that nobody knew existed until launch day (maybe for beating campaign). the focus should be on terminus and building the dlc's off of that.

[@Tracker-141]

Feel like the lack of atmosphere is due to the fact that this is the day after the outbreak. Thanks for a radio that was found.

[@someguygary7169]

if terminus isnt good they should not have wasted dev time on liberty falls. lets hope terminus is great.

[@Armyreaper]

Who tf is asking for simple? They could have easy mode for those players but zombies should be dynamic and scary. Just think if Treyarch had a whole team releasing a full game only zombies. The world would be incredible.

[@DylanoLandman]

That would be great, a stand alone game with the Mechanics, Formula and Systems of Bo1, Bo2 and Bo3. Bo1 and Bo2 Horror and Bo3 Movement and Graphics. Re-release every map ever created and Remaster ALL of them.

[@nightmares356]

The people asking for simple are the people who never play zombies and just play it for leveling weapons for MP/WZ. They’re losers

[@seanobrienplays688]

​@@nightmares356I've been playing since BO1 and I just play for high rounds so I prefer simpler maps, That's all zombies was. (with a few exceptions) And that's always what Zombies is to me, seeing how far I can get is how I have fun. You can have a different opinion without being a dickhead.

[@flammenwaffle7976]

Remember when BO3 drppped with only shadows and a paid dlc for a simple map and it killed half of the fans?

[@ZombieSlayerrrrr]

bo3 multiple maps on launch ? Wtf did they smoke in the interview 💀

[@CravedProduction]

I feel like if for more casual, why not remake the first original zombies map that was ever made back in WaW, Nacht Der Untoten. At least the simplicity of what they said they were going for with liberty falls would be more on the nostalgic side of the classic round based zombies; keeping that zombies vibe rather than the more warzone zombies vibe people are complaining about as well.

[@zealousdemon279]

honestly what i dont get is this dumb casual argument. for comparison: Black Ops 1 is the most sold COD gave ever, and Kino def Toten is BELOVED. its so hugely different from the other two modes but thats exactly why it was so intriguing to people. trying to muddle everything just creates blandness, just like we see now. style is not a bad thing…

[@VanaheimRanger]

I feel like Liberty Falls will have a dedicated crew and they are just keeping them secret for now, possibly because they will be familiar characters and they want them to be a surprise.

[@TheGamingRevo]

Confirmed operators

[@VanaheimRanger]

They can say what they want. I'll believe it when it launches.

[@BabyBatPlays]

I don't think anyone cares that liberty falls is a casual map, I don't know why people thought it would be a full scale map, they were going for something like bo3 where terminus is the huge shadows of evil type map and liberty falls is the smaller the giant type map, the issue is the giant has incredible atmosphere, liberty falls looks horrible and there's some very easy things they could do to make it look better, it looks like outbreak which has the absolute worst aesthetic in the entire call of duty franchise, the HUD is also a major issue, like it's so easy to make a zombies themed HUD with personality, there's a lot of smaller issues but those two things are the main issues, even in multiplayer there were little details missing that made some things feel awkward and unpolished, which is embarrassing for the longest development time in cod history

[@austinaraniecke9213]

My hype for BO6 zombies has immensely been killed it just does not measure up to bo1, bo2 & bo3 ,it feels like mw zombies , see yall in multiplayer tho

[@BROke4209]

I just want round base zombies back, I don't want to do a bunch of stuff all the time.

[@brianoconnor9105]

The only thing I think I would change is instead of Liberty being midday, change it to late evening. I always wanted a mechanic in zombies that changes the time of day. Other than that, brings me back to the time of just hopping on Town on BO2 to kill zombies for the hell of it.

[@christiancarter2003]

Some of yall complainers are the reason that some day treyarch would just cancel a black ops game just to fuck with yall

[@Real13thTraitor]

I feel like people forget that multiplayer zombies and campaign are all 1 universe now, so it restricts how insane zombies can be

[@derekisludicrous9203]

No we know and we hate it

[@shaneazeem111]

And that’s exactly the problem all of them are turning into warzone which is something we don’t want

[@trashpanda003]

Wow that sounds stupid

[@Therealnotanifox]

@@shaneazeem111 theyre not even fkn turning warzone. its turning REALISTIC while keeping zombie elements in it.

[@shaneazeem111]

It’s as simple as this: Remmeber when you not know what’s behind a door and you were on a quest to find the box or find jugg. There was always a strategic idea you had to utilize with ur points to get these things. Jugg was always a high risk high reward. Remmeber you would start with a pistol and you would slowly make ur way to better guns. There was this tension that every round was getting harder and you had to be ready to survive. There’s none of that anymore with ur class weapon now. No point in box. No point on jugg which is two doors away becsuse of the armor. Now you know where jugg always is and the box because of the map….how is this fun? Discovering a new map the layout for urself. Trying to figure out the map and the pattern and the way to play is what zombies is. Not knowing was behind door number 2; is it jugg?? Is it a wall weapon??? Is it a dead end??? Perks is also useless in this game because now you just spam them all at the wundefizz. There’s so much more too it’s so sad. If they don’t give us a classic zombies mode. I think it’s over for zombies. They are going to lose 90 percent of their player base. People tell us not to complain and we complain too much. Well we have no choice. It’s either we complain and Mabye we get what we want or we don’t end zombies slowly turns into warzone.

[@TheSweetlou69]

Liberty falls = new transit. They are going to drop 3 dlc maps and then for a super easter egg,there will be portals to go to the 3 different location. The 1st dlc will be a map to show how the crew gets to liberty falls.

[@FerociousPancake888]

Tranzit runs circles around LF

[@ricktheweeb5382]

tranzit was fun idk what you trying to say

[@NoahBoat_14]

Do you mean revelations? The map where it takes you through the aether to the other maps?

[@scottseither5089]

"They responded, not once but TWICE!". I'm so happy to have devs like Mark Rubin who actually dialog with the players.

[@SlowNSteady123]

And yet nothing ever gets done. No point in dialogue when only one person is listening

[@benozkleenex]

I mean simple map are good but the best are simple and very deep for those that want it to be. This is mostly what I want.

[@DurexSensitive]

If he wants to chill and kill zombies, then play a different game But don’t destroy what we love ffs

[@Lays-xp9hj]

I’m fine if the bonus map for beginners is dog buns but the other 4 zombies maps better be innovative. Edit like under water maps or maps in the desert

[@toft2403]

I just wish they cared honestly. Cold War was NOT fun. It was an XP grinding machine for the warzone players and that was that. I have played ONE game of Firebase Z where me and my friend completed the easter egg on our first try on the MAP. Not the first easter egg attempt, the first MAP attempt. It's embarrassing. Once you complete those maps main quests the map just loses its interesting quality. Think of a map like CotD, VERY simple easter egg, but still endlessly replayable and fun. Nothing in Cold War or BO6 will be anything else than the warzone sidemode for XP grinding.

[@matthewpalmer433]

MW3 Halloween maps are more zombie themed than liberty balls

[@ajc1753]

They should set the map when it’s sunset, it will look much better than it does right now

[@BigBird-]

It’s crazy cause this map is literally just hrs after the zombies show up. So it wouldn’t be destroyed and filled with blood. We honestly have not seen the full map. Everything was turned off. Even certain areas of the map was closed off just give it a chance befor you make your opinion.

[@Steven-hc1vy]

They could’ve easily meddle timeline by a day to make it not soar to the eye as a zombies map. Minimum effort into the atmosphere, like some fire, debris, or at least make it night time to make it less obvious it’s just a multiplayer port

[@alexlolli2325]

@@Steven-hc1vyactually fun fact: LF zombies came first, they made the mp after 😂😂. So LF is actually a zombies port to mp

[@realruntz2608]

The map itself really isn’t my issue. It’s the disgusting hud and Warzone mechanics. That’s what will ruin Terminus.

[@maproductions9269]

I love OG zombies, but im stoked to play Liberty Falls to just mindlessly slay zombies and go for high rounds! Terminus will be epic, and i hope they continue to give us more maps like Terminus, but also give us more round based maps like Liberty Falls. Nothing wrong with having both; maybe we will get two maps a season

[@BobGnarly420]

liberty falls would be better if as the rounds progress and u open up more of the map, zombies create world damage/change closing off some parts of the map making it harder as it goes on by creating new training opportunities/ routes etc. time of day changing as daytime goes on would help with atmosphere aswell

[@dominickkazlman8343]

I personally think dogs woulda fit liberty falls better than the spider dudes but definitely not game breaking

[@DylanoLandman]

Meatballs from SOE🙃

[@monkeyzone4562]

Tbf it could be they could be survival maps. Now don’t get it twisted I think what we see is at least 75% but if you need to do an ee step to access it then it would make a little sense to not show it

[@calebhickman4365]

Whether there is or isn't an easter egg or secret area is irrelevant because the maps layout is terrible it seriously just looks like a MP map they put zombies in

[@Myras.]

I feel like round based multiplayer maps would have been perfect for this. Maps like drive in work really well even if they use mw3 maps which im not against but the main zombie maps should be for zombie players because it's been 5 years since cold war first released and that's a crazy amount of time imo to be catering to other modes.

[@ZombieReject666]

I think Liberty Falls will open up different areas every season 🤞

[@Paralyzed-rm6vc]

The perks spacing needs to be returned to the style of waw to cw ditch the mwz styles and return to the cw icons

[@itsjesterino]

Not sure if this is gonna be worth 300 Brazilian gigs

[@Zeal1103]

Why would you install mw2 and 3 for bo6 zombies?

[@isaacfaith9369]

Liberty Falls down a flight of stairs.

[@roguessmith69]

Zombies community needs some tampons bro games not even out and yall trashing it 😂

[@SomeGuyWithTwoCats6066]

Literally, I get the frustration but the hating is honestly ridiculous, lmao.

[@jakevater1105]

Don't say that . They will send death threats for having a different voice to theirs. Zombies community sucks

[@OriiPingu]

@@SomeGuyWithTwoCats6066 I understand criticism, I wish this game was a lot more like the old games. But genuinely straight up whining and even insulting people who enjoy the game is incredibly childish and will not get Treyarch to listen. I'm gonna enjoy BO6 a lot, I liked CW and this seems like a much better version of it.

[@SomeGuyWithTwoCats6066]

@@OriiPingu Exactly! I just don't get why people attack those who like and enjoy the game, it's childish!

[@Carpediem357]

Ok but the whole point of gameplay and trailers is to entice people and if you fail at that then no one will want to play your game.

[@luislinares8387]

Not gonna lie the map looks nice but I’ve seen mw3 maps with more horror detail

[@niconepni1821]

Scorestreaks would be cool if they were zombie unique scorestreaks, but using multiplayer/warzone ones is just boring/lazy. I think the mangler transformation item is a really good example of what i mean, its unique to zombies and would fit the theme. Like, i think it'd be cool if there was a scorestreak that summoned some of those little flying creatures which periodically do damage to zombies, or one that gives you a big rectangular shield on your back which has a limited number of hits and can actually be held in your hands and do like a rocket boost forward. Them kind of experimenting with small simple stuff would be much more in character than using an RC-XD or putting down a turret.

[@Robert-California]

the way kevin drew said “vanguard 😒”

[@cynicalx7495]

I will be happy if I get a Habitual Linecrosser map with The Kid and Franklin as playable characters 😂

[@Jamie-uj4br]

OCTOBER 25 th needs to hurry up!!!

[@Monkey0nMars]

Terminus won’t be a harder experience. The bo6 system makes it so not the map. It might be complicated with a good ee though so I think it could still be fun.

[@salex8813]

It’s not really what he wants it’s what the players want honeslty Americans have no idea tbh

[@asosa6542]

Cope is insane

[@xXacinaterXx]

As long as the DLC season isn’t like liberty balls…. I’ll be ok

[@captianbacon]

Terminus looks like origins or shadows of evil or mob of the dead. Awful unfun task driven maps that make you do 40 things to have have fun. Liberty falls looks like kino and the giant fun to the point zombies no fun barriers like alot of maps make you do to have fun.

[@Thewizzard15]

I think that liberty falls will add areas every season or 2. I can’t imagine 4 DLC maps all taking place in liberty falls. UNLESS. It is like Tranzit. The full map broken into different parts. Church, mansion, Janus towers, town.

[@Thewizzard15]

Dalek and Kevin also talked about preserving a map or having updates that change the map forever. Could be a hint.

[@DylanoLandman]

That is also my theory, but it shouldn’t affect othter DLC Maps. I said in another comment: Liberty Balls is TranZit, the big Map with the EE. And the 4 sections would be bonus bare bones survival Maps without an EE just for fun.

[@DylanoLandman]

Ofcourse it’s not confirmed but a man can hope right?

[@Carpediem357]

If they do that Bo6 is gonna be a colossal failure. 2 Maps and their bith launch maps??? Lmao I hope this rumour that TGR started is wrong

[@Kickthelighter]

Treyarch is garbage now. No better than any of the other developers

[@Drxmzz5969]

My main problem is the theme of zombies has disappeared now it’s still multiplayer theme, also the thrill for me is gone , just recently I went back to play world at war zombies and the thrill and scariness of it was there the theme was on point all dark and gritty ,and actually challenges you and makes you think, shits too easy now 😂

[@alexlolli2325]

It’s like u didn’t even watch the video. Everything u just said he talked about. And terminus will have those vines

[@n8dawg727]

Yeah thier crap excuses for poor/lazy designs. New zombies is trash half the mechanics render the other half useless but they kept em anyways so the could lie n call it "classic round" to trick people for pre order sales. The whole game is an easy pass at this point. So sick of hearing about it that don't ever want to play after the mediocre beta that's already been hacked day 1

[@tonilouisebyrne7212]

Never buying that sink game I clearly spotted a predator

[@sabrogaming4602]

Liberty falls is the grind map For camos

[@CorpseDragon]

Honestly, face it cod zombies will never be the same. At this point i just deal with it😮‍💨

[@mrbear5417]

im tired of them calling it "round based zombies". Say anything else

[@Jhans123]

Bring back celebrity maps!

[@Relp7357]

After a hard day of work, some days I just wanna turn on some music or a movie or something and just mess around. Liberty Falls seems to fill that void. That being said, I would’ve appreciated the resources being used on two maps like Terminus( in level of complexity) but I’m happy with what we got and will have fun!