RAM 2500 6.4 HEMI Pros Vs Cons | Is It A GOOD Engine?

[@KeithStarr]

I traded my 2018 6.7 2500 for a 2021 Power Wagon. I loved the torque of the Cummins when towing my 7,000lb trailer but I wasn’t ever going to work the truck hard enough to justify it. The 6.4 surprised me when towing the same trailer. Fuel mileage suffers and it does have to shift more on grades, but with the 4.10 gears it really does a great job. Cheaper maintenance and no concerns over DEF issues. Hopefully the lifters/cams are nice to me! I really have no complaints. Payload on the Power Wagon is always a concern, but ya can’t have everything. Great video!

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Exactly, I was shocked how well my PW towed 8,200 lbs. with such low numbers (payload and towing) I was expecting it to feel like a 1500 and the truck didn't sweat. cruised at 65 mph down the highway up and down hills like I was out for a Sunday drive lol yes fuel mileage is tough but she's a solid engine.

[@starmc26]

The 6.4 doesn't have lifter issues. The hemi tick is on the 5.7.

[@harrywalker5836]

@@TheGettyAdventures no way on earth would i run a short trip, diesel, for 20k. 10 max. it takes 1/2 hr for everything to get to temp..i work 1/2 hr away. not good for a diesel..most people [ ask a bmw,jag, merc mechanic. ] never thrash a diesel. thats why they fk up..

[@gen1c8rs88]

@@TheGettyAdventures Wish the 6.4L V8 was 6.7L with port and direct fuel injection, had a 10 speed automatic with a 15 mpg average, 12 city/18 hwy.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@gen1c8rs88 one can wish!

[@johnbrereton6823]

I've gotten 20 mpg out of my 6.4 Hemi on a long trip. Got over 400 miles out of that tank. Surprised the hell out of me. Kept my foot off the skinny pedal and set the cruise for the speed limit

[@MrStaybrown]

Same here. 6.4 hemi 3500 megacab hauling donkey on the interstate. I think the mileage is great for a big truck.

[@roosterable3489]

Same I get 22.4 on Highway with cruise control

[@seattleprowash5464]

My 5.7 hemi gets about 9.5 mpg. Wonder if the 6.4 gets better mpg

[@fieldsfamilycookingandoutdoors]

I get 22 in my 5.7 running 70-75. I’ve heard others comment about their 2500 that supports the comments above.

[@chrisgreen1904]

I've got a 2016 6.4 Power Wagon. I've also got it pretty jacked with big tires. That said, it still drives like a dream, loads of power. Living in Hawaii, I can go anywhere with this truck. The lift and tires take me down to about 7 miles a gallon unfortunately.

[@mattdavis7260]

I have 162k miles on my 14 6.4. Most of those miles came from towing a fifth wheel camper. It’s been a super reliable truck/engine

[@TheXOoftheRO]

awesome

[@raymondcurbelo877]

Awesome. In your experience is there anything I should do to my 6.4 hemi to tow a fifth wheel camper?

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Which transmission?

[@toofastnobrakes]

I have a 2019 2500 with the hemi, and I had a 2016 before that. Great motor! I tow with it 5-6 days a week running my landscaping business. I pull a 6500lbs box trailer like it’s not even there, and I pull a 14ft dump trailer loaded anywhere from 10k to 15klbs, pulls it just fine. Especially with the new 8 speed. The zf8 speed in the 19 and up make a big difference. My only suggestion is put a cold air intake “I went S&B” and a free flowing exhaust. When you let this hemi breath it really wakes up

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Honestly probably looking into doing something like that! Maybe even get a few extra MPG

[@toofastnobrakes]

@@TheGettyAdventures I didn’t see much change in fuel economy. Maybe 0.3mpg better. But it comes down to the way you drive. I get 14-15mpg without a trailer. And 10-11 towing. 9 at the worst with my dump trailer. Now the power difference? That’s noticeable for sure

[@brianfrickey4329]

@@TheGettyAdventures 😅❤

[@pauldiesel4582]

I enjoyed your video! I own a 2006 dodge 2500 diesel. This engine is easy to maintain and I get 19-24 mpg empty. My dream truck would be a Power Wagon with the RAM boxes. I would not get a new diesel with all the emissions nonsense! When I bought my truck new the diesel option was $4K. I figured if I drove it at least 100k it would be worth it over the gas 5.7 option in fuel economy. I have 240k on it now. Back then diesel was cheaper too. Now gas is $4 a gallon and diesel is $6+ a gallon and climbing. A new diesel is a $10K+ option! I could buy a lot of gas with $10K! There is a worldwide shortage of diesel fuel, so it isn’t going away anytime soon. So the simplicity, maintenance costs, and cheaper fuel I think offset the gas mileage difference of the gas engine. Besides the Power Wagon is so bad ass!

[@1bakerblue]

I love my 2021, Ram 2500, with my 6.4 Hemi and 4.10 rear gears. I pull a 10K Travel trailer and it does a great job. I average 15 MPG and pulling I get 10 MPG... Great video... I stepped up from a 2015 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi and loved it...

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Same my man. I had a 17 ram 1500 and love it but I wanted something more capable. I unfortunately am no where near 15mpg. Probbaly to do with the -25 degree weather and a new engine because im floating around 11mpg and I don't do city driving

[@johnnicpon5783]

I have the 6.4 Hemi in my 2020 Ram 2500 Limited MegaCab with the 4.10 rear end. I tow a 31' 9000 pound travel trailer and find the Hemi to be a beast, a wonderful beast. I have towed through the Smokies Mountains out east and the Rockies out west. Plenty of power! Now, as you pointed out it is a thirsty beast. One other. point is that for my model year the owners manual recommends 89 octane. It does say 87 is acceptable. I have chosen to feed it a steady diet of 89 octane. Living in Northern Illinois that is another 40 to 50 cents a gallon over 87 octane. On the flip side, my truck is for the purpose of towing the trailer so it will just sit unused for periods of time. I do make sure to run it at least once every couple of weeks. And as I had read horror stories about DEF and regen issues, choosing to order my truck with the Hemi was an easy one. Great video, keep them coming!

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Thank you sir! And yes I was SHOCKED how much better the 6.4 hemi on the 2500 plateform is at towing. I towed alot with my 5.7 hemi and it was great but over 5000 lbs the truck would be working hard. Whereas with this truck its like clockwork with 8,000 lbs behind me. Whenever I tow, I always use 94 octane. Always like having the best fuel for when the engine is actually going to be under load! I mean the fuel milage does suck but it is what it is. Gotta pay to play as they say!

[@shawnjarman9860]

Well, maybe they did better with the 2020, as for the 2018, not so much

[@jsboening]

That’s exactly how I ordered mine. Hope it gets here some day.

[@IntothewestOkotoks]

My 2021 manual shows 87 octane only. Somewhere between 2019/2020 the manual changed from 89 recommended. I was pleasantly surprised…to add to the confusion, the US Ram website showed in needed “premium” (typically 91). I ran premium for the first 2000 kms, and then regular ever since (now at 17000), and there’s been zero difference. Including towing a TT about 4,000km through the prairies in 35-38c heat, and through the Rockies. I tried asking the service dept why the manual was changed for the recommendation, and they were puzzled but said 87 is all it needs.

[@trickmytrailer]

Currently 68 6.4’s in 2500 and 3500 trucks with over 200,000 miles on them. I saw several with 340,000+ miles so they appear to be relatively reliable beyond 200,000 miles with good maintenance.

[@alsims8280]

Good fair video. I love my 6.4 for all the economic reasons you listed. Most trucks are falling apart by the time the diesel reaches the end of its lifespan. Only hard pulling all the time justifies it, or too much testosterone.

[@cgindustrial1859]

I'm in Simcoe County, I have had my 2022 Ram 2500 Laramie for 3 months....it's an incredibly beautiful machine, coming from a truck fanatic who has owned everything under the sun. I chose it and paid almost 100k because my 2003 Ram 1500 with a 5.7 Hemi had 500,000 km on it. It purred like a kitten when I sold it to my buddy just 3 months ago...yes he loves it and it is still trouble free.

[@TheXOoftheRO]

awesome #Ram

[@aljones9114]

I love my 6.4 hemi. It's a 2016 2500 with 3.73 gears. I pull my 27' and 30' campers with no issues. Yes, it likes fuel, but I only drive it when pulling campers or going 4 wheeler riding in WV. It wasn't a problem a few years ago but now diesel is almost 2 dollars more a gallon than gas. That is a big difference. Enjoyed the video. Have a Happy and safe Holidays.

[@patriot5526]

There is definitely a big difference in the life span of these engines, but consider this, as a building contractor who is always on the road driving long distances, it took me a little over 10 years to get 220,000 on my last Hemi. By that time, although the engine was still running fine, the rest of the truck was falling apart. So if your Cummins could go over 300,000 miles, for most drivers, that might be over 15 years or more. Truck bodies just don’t always last that long.

[@sonsofliberty3081]

Yes they do. Dodge had a few years the body metal was bad. These will go a very long time, especially if you put some fluid film under it.

[@seattleprowash5464]

I see old rams on the road every day, there’s no rust where I live so they just last

[@coachvonyo]

Just sold my 6.4 with 6 speed. Loved it so much I bought another 6.4 only with the ZF 8 speed. I e owned a 6.7 Cummins too. It was a tough decision but I prefer the gas engine 90% of the miles I drive.

[@99unclebob]

good comparison, you have to do allot of towing to pay for the 6.7 and the service costs are crazy and you can drive a 6.4 along time and some guys here in Manitoba have gotten 250-275k and still not ever been apart and no issues cold starting them, i would take a 6.4 over the 6.7 Cummins anytime.

[@270Remi]

I just went up from a 5.7 hemi 1500 to a 6.7 cummins 2500 and I love it. The 5.7 was lifted, chipped and had exhaust work done to it and could pass anything but a gas station. I'm not gonna delete the 6.7 until the warranty expires but it's already nicer being able to make 1 trip and not stop for fuel all the time.

[@quentonmillstid850]

Damage will already be done to internals by the time you delete it

[@scottdasilva902]

I really appreciate the straightforward comparison. Helpful when buying a "new" truck.

[@williammodlin2621]

This is a really good and well thought out analysis. My 2021 Tradesman has the Hemi and 4.10 gearing; I tow a 12,000 # 5th wheel with it and I’m extremely happy that I DON’T have the Cummins. BTW, I get around 14-15 mpg in daily driving (~8-9 towing). Thanks for the video.

[@jacobstrutner8232]

Worled at a semi dealer. Every week we did 2 Cummins swaps because they did the oil intervals they were told. The egr soots the oil so bad the rods put a window in the block within 3,000-10,000 miles out of the warranty like clockwork. I wouldn't even consider going over 10k miles on an oil change.

[@stephen2215]

Just bought a 2022 2500 6.4 Laramie thanks to your helpful advice. LOVE the truck. Can’t wait to add the miles! Also followed your break-in advice.

[@austinlaff6449]

About to buy this truck, gonna pull a 11k fifth wheel (taking into consideration 1500 lbs extra weight and 500 lbs worth of human), I only haul once every 3-4 months, so I wanted to go up in trim bc it’s a daily driver and our only car. Seemed like a sensible cost effective option…also looking at the night edition, so it’s a good lookin truck! 😂

[@jamesrowe4217]

I know this is apples to oranges, but I want to give the 6.4L a little praise with fuel economy. I owned a 2010 Charger with a 3.5L V6. The thing got 25MPG highway, this 2022 Challenger R/T 392 I've got gets about the same (long treks a bit more, around 28-30 if I baby her). Gearing and MDS really helps (twice the gears, 12 years of improvement on electrical components delivering fuel and tuning etc...). I was absolutely blown away by the fuel economy this beast gets compared to what was possible 12 years ago in a 250HP engine. Again apples and oranges as you're comparing it to a cummins, but I thought I'd offer the other side of this engine (in a car vs a truck).

[@Lopez2448]

So far I absolutely love my 2024 6.4 Rebel/Power Wagon

[@karlabird309]

Our 2020 2500 Ram Cummins Diesel has had two DEF warnings within 1000 mikes. The first(after two dealerships and four weeks) resulted in a new DEF heater and DEF pump. The second DEF warning still has not been resolved after 10 days . There are dozens of other pickups on the lot needing repairs. Our 2011 Ford 350 needed a new DEF heater after 100k miles. Wish we hadn’t traded the Ford in after 250K miles of towing our travel trailer. Probably going to get a gasoline HEMI next and weep for lost mileage.

[@WalterWilson-n4w]

I have a 2017 3500 dually with 6.4 Hemi and I love it. I have a 25 ft. Deck over trailer that when loaded with 2 tractors weighs in at 14,000 lbs which the Hemi handles with no problem. Also with the price of gas being cheaper than diesel and the initial cost of the Cummins versus the Hemi it was definitely the Hemi for me. Bottom line it has been the best truck I have ever owned. Believe me I have had quite a few over my 67 years.

[@sullyone8373]

Thank you for your comments. So many of these gas vs diesel comparisons fail to mention the cost difference in the fuel.

[@thudang5298]

Thanks for sharing! This one's particularly useful for my research and cross shopping - bonus, you have the Power Wagon, which is the bump I was planning for from the 1500.

[@patriot5526]

Great video. I agree with you 100%. I bought a 2500 Cummins back in 2015. I had never owned a diesel truck before. The service manager told me that it was good to have never owned one because the people who had been driving diesels for years didn’t understand how different the new ones were. I followed their advice and never had an issue. I loved that truck but I love my Power Wagon even more.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Awesome man! How do you find the fuel mileage difference between the two trucks ?

[@medicchester]

Unless he's pulling loads over 600k Miles in two years. Probably worthless.

[@gordtulk]

Your cost calculations/1000 in USD are incorrect- you have them higher than CDN

[@ajs96350]

Service manager knows jack squat if he said something like that.

[@raywagner8016]

I think you nailed it with your list. I have stopped buying the diesels because I don't tow the heavy loads I used to and the aftertreatment systems are a nightmare in that I am located nowhere near a dealership. But yeah, my 2018 Power Wagon loves the fuel like a drunken pirate likes rum.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Honestly i was kinda shocked how much fuel it drinks. But its a good engine and you'll save yourself a potential headache with aftertreatment issues!

[@canacruzer5320]

Good comparison, I just traded my 2015 Cummins for a 2022 6.4 hemi 2500. I was not using the diesel as much as I used to and didn’t want the after treatment issues. As a heavy duty mechanic doing service myself in the diesel was about $400 every 12,000 km. So far, happy with the 6.4. Time will tell.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I think there are alot of people doing the same thing. Unless you truly need the extra towing power the gas 6.4 is a great alternative.

[@257Tony]

Ordered a new Super Duty last year, never even considered the Powerstroke. Been there, done that with the diesel drama. 7.3 gas w/4.30 gears, easily pulls everything I throw at it.

[@nozrep]

2:20; haven’t ever owned a diesel in my life yet… but continually wonder… is the mpg increase/advantage not then canceled out by diesel being $1 per gallon more expensive than gasoline? I am not thinking of any towing advantages, am only asking solely about the mpg considerations as compared with price per gallon of fuel? Again, am curious, have never owned a diesel anything by myself

[@joshchapman521]

your totally right i am a diesel mechanic and live in ontario and looking to buy a power wagon great video thanks

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Lmaoooo that made me laugh. I mean ya maybe but money does talk and fuel aint cheap these days. But you gotta pay to play!

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Awesome man! They are great trucks. And they go anywhere you want to go.

[@michaelevans691]

Hi, Really like your channel. I’ve been watching you for a few years. I just bought a 2024 Power Wagon. Should I use the Mopar oil filter or something like a Wix brand oil filter? Mind me asking what you use? Thanks!

[@nateknapp556]

I have a 2018, 6.4 and it's does great pulling my camper, but gets 8mpg. Without a load I get 14 to 15mpg. Great over all truck.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

when I towed with my 6.4 I was actually very impressed. just felt much more comfortable under load then the 5.7.

[@bradriekens9804]

Great and Fair video. I Love my 22/2500 6.4, the only thing I miss from my 20/2500 6.7 is the exhaust brake when I’m towing.

[@johnthornton7763]

That's a nice compare and contrast of the cummins platform vs the 6.4 hemi. I've heard a lot of amazing talk here in the States of sunsetting the availability of diesel engines by 2030. It's getting that bad as our out of touch fearless political leaders, academics, media, bankers, high tech oligarchs and others in our wokeisphere are pressing auto manufacturers to go electric.

[@OfOld]

Forcing us to go green which "coincidentally" is where their investments are

[@truthhurts4555]

@@OfOld yes it is and I won’t ever buy one of those piles of shit

[@TheGettyAdventures]

lol I'll blow your mind. In Quebec Canada, right now in 2022 if you want to buy a new school bus it HAS TO BE ELECTRIC. you legit cannot buy a diesel school bus new anymore there. it's a joke. Funny enough, the Quebec government has a financial stake in the only electric school bus manufacture in the province. If that isn't corruption then I don't know what is.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

follow the money as they say!

[@johnthornton7763]

@@TheGettyAdventures So much for freedom and liberty...

[@HemiDad1963]

I have 2018 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi. I tow a 7500 lb travel trailer. It does a good job but it’s struggling when I step on it. I get about 13mpg towing and 17 empty. When we retire and upgrade to the 14,000 lb 5th wheel I will probably choose a 3500 with the gas engine. For all the positive reasons you mentioned. I can live with the negative ones too. Thank you for this service.

[@ronbenjamin4351]

Great video!! I’m in the market for a 2500 for my company. Was hung up on a diesel but now I’m thinking the gas will work just fine. Thank you

[@RudeDudeLegion]

Me too

[@sandyblakeman6081]

We have had great luck with our 6.4hemi. Bought a 2015 and in the 9 years we have owned it have been happy with it. We just recently bought a 2024 6.4 hemi. The mpg isn’t great but for us they aren’t daily drivers.

[@supermopar7497]

I have an 017 3500. Bought new. Went with the 392. Wasn’t going to use it like a diesel. Standard cab long bed, 2 weal drive. 3.73 gear. On highway 22-23 mpg. Hauls anything I want. Toes anything I want. Love it. One thing that’s never mentioned in these clips, is insurance. Much higher rates for diesel. I asked why? Guy said, if you wreck it, we have to pay for the motor. Another plus for hemi. Cummins is awesome, no doubt. But, it just wasn’t exactly right for my demands.

[@artillerybuff2000]

Pretty accurate review of two good trucks. I own a 2018 Ram 3500 crew cab 4WD Dually with the max tow package 6.7 Cummins and it is used exclusively for towing my 45' triple axle 19,000 lb. 5th wheel RV. I also own a 2019 Ram 2500 crew cab 4WD 6.4 Hemi and it is used exclusively to tow an 8,000 lb trailer. I love both trucks, but the 1 ton Cummins powered dually is the ultimate towing machine. With the 100 gallon Transfer Flow fuel tank in the bed I can drive two to three days between fuel stations, the high compression diesel engine and exhaust brake make down hill mountain driving a breeze, and the incredible torque make going up hills equally easy. Even though the 6 4 Hemi powered Hemi is only towing 8,000 lbs., I'd still rather have a Cummins under the hood. I love the lighter truck, but for towing the Hemi cannot compare to the Cummins, it's not even close...

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Agreed! the 3500 max tow package is also geared fully for towing with 4:10's and higher 1 gear ratios so that also helps. but like you said the cummins is meant to tow and it does exactly that! the 6.4 hemi is a great option for someone who wants a heavy duty truck but is not looking to tow over 10,000lbs regularly.

[@williamlott7612]

I have a 2017 RAM 2500 Cummins. I bought the truck in September 2022 and use it for towing a camper. The RAM had a catastrophic brake failure in July 2023 where the bolts holding the master cylinder to the hydro boost actually broke and left me without brakes while returning home from a camping trip. Fortunately I had slowed and was able to use the emergency brake to stop. As of today it has been in the shop for 127 days. I recently discovered that there is a class action lawsuit concerning brake failures on the 2017-18 RAM 2500 and 3500. The NHTSA is investigating these failures as a safety issue and Chrysler has yet to order a recall. I do love the Cummins but am not so enamored with the RAM it is in. Darlington, South Carolina

[@thelouiebrand]

My buddy has 280k miles on his 2500 6.4 hemi and it’s still purring like a kitten. He also rock crawls and goes on long hauls with it. He is very on point with his services though. Hope this sheds some light on that. I bought a 2022 gasser and this makes me feel hopeful.

[@bushhogmck8091]

I thought you were right on with a lot of what you said. But when you said that the 6.4 has a expected life of only 200thou miles. WTF seriously, maybe for someone who doesn't maintain their vehicle. I had a 2007 charger, sold it with 180thou miles. Had the 5.7 hemi, ran into the guy that bought it couple of weeks ago. It now has 233thou, he pulled out of the gas station freaking sideways in a cloud of smoke! Man I miss that ride! All of these mopar vehicles will be going up in value, they are going to STOP making them! Welcome to the EV world gentleman!! I bought my 2500 Ram 6.4 hemi before they are all gone!

[@phillipcabaniss5028]

I got the same truck and color but mine is a 21, and the 75th anniversary, absolutely the best truck I’ve owned!

[@ostromadventures]

Good video! I’m going from a Titan XD Cummins to a power wagon. I know I will get less gas mileage but I don’t tow enough for a diesel. I must say it’s so much fun towing with a diesel.

[@williamruhe1654]

Definitely Sir good information 👍👍 thank you . I’ve been kicking this very subject around for along time . These aren’t cheap trucks , either one of em . So the comparison and contrast for your needs is very important. 👍

[@Bhambone]

My 2022 ram 2500 with the 6.4 hemi and 4.10 rear had an issue around 1,300 miles with the high pressure fuel line blowing off the top of the fuel rail on the right side, but other than that I love the truck and i'm glad I went with the Hemi, plenty of power for a gasser!

[@travelbydragonfly]

Thanks for the video. I'm having some of those problems you mention. I have a clogged DPF right now that apparently needs to be replaced. Their covering it under warranty but fyi it's a $3500 repair, and week to get the part. They say that I have to drive 50-100 miles on the highway once I see the DPF gauge starting to clog, or bring it in for a manual regen ($200) Also it's a 2020 and there has been 4 recalls on it. I currently can't get a straight answer on what air filter to use. They say I have the wrong filter and that's causing an engine light. Both filters I've used are Mopar. Anyway I just wanted to say that I did a quick calculation on the mileage factor of diesel vs. gas. At 19mpg vs. 12mpg it would take about 140,000 mi. to break even on the cost of the Cummins. And that's not even taking into account the added maintenance costs. Given all the potential problems with diesel engines, unless somebody needs the extra torque, the cost isn't justified for most people.

[@VinylMatador]

I think value is debatable - especially with the current market. My 2017 Power Wagon has a trade in of over 45k (CAD) according to the Canadian Black Book, which is pretty damn decent, considering it was around 70k new. Great video and this is the info people need to know if they’re on the fence over gas or diesel. Really appreciate you running the cost of ownership as well!

[@jacobstrutner8232]

The resale is complete bullshit. There's no difference between gas and diesel used, you'll only pay $10k more upfront new for a diesel.

[@kuhn4311]

​@@jacobstrutner8232 wrong

[@chrisabreedapartnyhc5337]

Love my 21’ 2500 6.4,I got it with the 4.10’s and it’s definitely got plenty of power for what I do,the new diesel’s scare me,I was always use to driving my old boss’s Ford F-350 Diesel’s I’m talking like 2000-2004 model years and things have changed big time since then

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Agreed the new diesels are very complex compared to just 15 years ago. Way to much software and EPA regulations on them. Unless your truly need the towing power the gas 6.4 hemi is a great option

[@joshcoleman6357]

I agree with this completely! I currently have a 2021 6.7 dually and I'm going to be getting rid of it simply for the fact I don't use it for what it is supposed to be used for. I came from a 2017 1500 outdoorsman package 6 inch lift 35's and honestly miss that more than anything. I bought the dually because we planned on getting a fifth wheel but with how the market is and gas prices plans changed.. I have had the dually for a year and it sits more than anything I literally just hit 14k miles. The 2500 6.4 now I believe will be ideal for me cause of the payload and I do not see me towing more than 12k pounds. I really just need the payload honestly. The 6.7 is nice though but pointless if you really don't use it for its intended purpose at least what i think after owning it.

[@anythingadrenaline4515]

What's the payload capacity?

[@chasestecklein5777]

@Anything Adrenaline my 6.4 2500 tradesman payload is 3440. Max towing I is 15500 I believe. With the short gears I'm amazed at how easily it tows for being gas.

[@joshcoleman6357]

@@anythingadrenaline4515 Really late reply but 5526 lbs

[@arch417powersports]

I love my 6.4 Hemi with the 8 speed. Great package overall and a joy to daily drive.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

very nice trucks indeed!

[@medicchester]

What's your MPH average?

[@arch417powersports]

@@medicchester MPG is usually 14-15 around town. 17-19 taking it easy on the highway.

[@jimmcknight3021]

​@@arch417powersports what rear end is in your? 3.73 or the 4.10?

[@paultruesdale7680]

Horses for courses, I think it’s your choice of words, for instance you said the Cummins tows quite a bit more, actually using your numbers the Cummins doubles the gas engine in towing. Maintenance is the most significant difference with a diesel, after the initial cost is calculated in. If both vehicles are maintained properly they should see well over 200000-300000 miles you mentioned. Unless you are towing or working the truck really hard, the diesel makes no sense, unless you just love having a diesel and the torque. Great video

[@fivesfilms]

I just switched over to a 6.4 hemi with 4.10s from a Cummins. I can tell you early on that it’s $30-$40 less per fill up at the pump.

[@nathanhill6042]

Hoping to buy one tommarrow but the Cummins will go further on a fillup so it’s even

[@fivesfilms]

@@nathanhill6042 True.

[@deanesonthemove9574]

What about the MDS or auto start/stop crap? Do the 2024 ram 2500s with the 6.4 have that? And can RAM turn it off or are there only aftermarket & warranty voiding ways?

[@thevortex6754]

I’ve found me a 2018 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 in it. It’s exactly the truck I’m looking for, good towing capacity for my heavy short halls, good for my daily driver, not too worried about my gas, my other truck goes through it and it’s got a 4.7 lol

[@cowthedestroyer]

Cool to see fuel efficiency staying the same. I have a 1990 d250 360la and get 12 mpg max on the highway i dont even want to calculate my in town. Wish they would go back to square body but hey cant live in the past forever.

[@michelle692day]

Thankyou for this video! My second confirmation that I need to select the Hemi!

[@Zip_Zero_ZILCH]

I am looking at a new 2500. The same truck is 71k for the 6.4 gasser and 84k for the 6.7 diesel. The biggest concern for longer ownership is how much value the diesel will retain over time.

[@thomasgoller7621]

I currently have a 2012 Ram 1500 with the 4.7. Wife wants to go camping out west, we live in Indiana so driving out west to like Colorado with a 29' 4500lbs travel trailer isn't something I want to do in my 4.7 equipped 1500. We are going to possibly buy a bigger truck next year when we get some other things paid off. I've been going back and forth on the diesel vs gas issue. Really don't think a diesel is necessary for our needs but I know from driving 3/4 ton gas F-250s at work that they are fuel thirsty. I really like the Ram Power Wagons but I've also thought about just getting a 5.7 Hemi Ram 1500 because of fuel mileage. My dad is pulling a 7200 lbs Jayco travel trailer with a 2017 Ram Rebel with the 5.7 and he says it does great. What are your opinions? I'll also add that I'm a commercial truck driver and my work truck is a Cummins ISX15 equipped International. Since my truck was new (2017) I've dealt with problems with the after treatment system numerous times. So not having to deal with that mess on a gasser is definitely a pro for me

[@spamnelsonhere]

Thanks for the unit conversions! Great points as well.

[@jamesorr2832]

I just traded my 2020 2500 Ram Cummins on a 2022 2500 Ram 6.4 Hemi I pull a 8000 pound TT and I had soooo many problems with the DEF, DPF Smog system on the Cummins I said Enough, it had been back to the Dealer 18 times and the last 9 months I owned it was in the shop over 3 months all under Warranty, it was running in regen all the time and the MPG was about 7.5 when towing and about 13 empty and Diesel is about a buck1.50 a gallon more than gas!! what that's worth!! If this 6.4 can just stay out of the shop and is dependable I'll be a Happy Camper. Thanks for the info.

[@victorfardy177]

Great vid..... What about 4x4 capabilities in the 2? We need 4x4 here in Canada!

[@hydro_rebel7741]

Just curious if you still have this truck? Im currently looking into maybe upgrading and wondering how it is as a daily driver?

[@HM-bv7mc]

Great video. How about a review of the Ford 7.3 gas engine offered in the Superduty?

[@mattottie6410]

I drive a 2016 ram powerwagon and love it, i had many ram diesels, and now that i am older love the softer ride of my powerwagon, and with the cost of diesel i am not going back..

[@TheGettyAdventures]

cost of diesel is wild. and now that diesels are all running aftertreatment system the gas options are a simpler vehicle. I rode in my friends 2500 diesel and the ride is stiff as hell. great for towing but the power wagon rides soo much smoother

[@boatlover8856]

Great video with good information!

[@cage9]

Sitting in the desert near Quartzsite Arizona, awaiting a new Jasper engine for my 2015 RAM 2500 Mega-cab 4x4. 6.4 hemi has a cracked piston head in cylinder #2. I hear it's unusual...was fearing the lifter/warn cam issue would account for my misfire but this is...worse? Been full-time RV'ing with this truck for about 2 years towing a travel trailer well below it's towing weight rating but wonder if it just couldn't handle it. Have taken great care of this guy. Not sure why this happened...maybe the economy-mode? Will be turning that off in the next engine. Should've gone with the Cummins is all I can say.

[@keithwinter6005]

I have a 2014 ram with the 6.4 hemi works great not towing will get about 23 mpg

[@toofastnobrakes]

As far as the diesel paying itself off in fuel saving it honestly doesn’t make sense. I remember watching TFL trucking doing some real world fuel economy tests of gas vs diesel towing. And after they were done they calculated just how many miles you’d need to drive to make up the cost difference in the motors. And when you factor in the price difference of the average gas and diesel motors “$10k more new”. The fact that diesel cost more in most places “about 50¢ more where I live” I believe they came up with around 117,000 miles if it’s all towing, and unloaded it would take over 600,000 miles!!! So unless your hooked to a trailer consistently for 200,000+ miles. or literally can’t pull what you need with a gas truck. The fuel economy argument makes no sense

[@TheGettyAdventures]

really eh? well not to mentioned the added maintenance costs and if something does need to be repaired diesel engines are more expensive and generally more complicated!

[@toofastnobrakes]

@@TheGettyAdventures exactly, unless I was towing much heavier than I am or just had the extra cash to blow on one. I can’t see a reason Ide get one. Now WANTING one… that’s a different story

[@medicchester]

No shit!

[@jaredlyons3453]

I currently run a 2018 Ram Tradesmen with the 6.4 0w40 Mobil 1 every 4 months or 4,000 miles absolutely love it and getting 13.9mpg on 89 octane fuel

[@TheGettyAdventures]

not bad at all. very respectable mileage without the 8 speed.

[@TerryCheever]

Love the 6.4L, no concerns, those cons don't matter, my 2020 RAM 2500 Laramie is not only sweet it is plenty powerful to tow my RV wherever.

[@wisdom8275]

My 21 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. This truck has 44k miles and is currently getting all new lifters and some other things. As of right now i don't know everything the dealership is doing being its all warranty work, but i shouldn't have to have this kind of work done at this point. This truck tows a trailer everyday. 2500 lbs to 14k lbs depending on the work load of the day.

[@Eli5.0]

You should consider getting a muffler delete, your truck would sound really good! Also another thing to add is I came here for your off-road videos and stayed for the general content you put out. I’d love to see some off-roading and camping content come spring and summer time.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Thats honestly what I would love to do. Is some stealth/ truck camping video deep into the bush. I thought about doing some winter camping also but figure I'd let the temp warm up a little before I do that!

[@medicchester]

Ya

[@daltonparks2985]

My dad owns a 6.4 hemi and he towed a trailer about 4 ton and we still haven't had a problem out of it

[@TheGettyAdventures]

well they are built with towing in mind so I'm not surprised!

[@roybrazeau3486]

2019 Laramie 2500. Currently 12,288 miles. Had a Fisher 7’6” HD2 plow installed a month ago. I absolutely have had no issue(s) with this truck. I originally leased the vehicle but before the plow install, I bought it through a credit union and Chrysler - Capital sold it to me for $5,000. less than the residual value the dealer stated on their contract.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

not a bad little deal then eh! happy to hear this truck is working well even when plowing!

[@supersonoma9871]

I had 2 4th gen Power Wagons and now a 4th gen G56 Cummins that's deleted and tuned. Power wagon was fairly good off-road but that's about it. 6.4 can't even come close to touching the cummins for payload and towing and power. Both my trailers weigh 10k and the 6.4 would struggle so much with it's dim witted auto trans. Cummins hardly notices them and I can get better mileage towing with the cummins vs driving the Power Wagon empty. My wagon weighed a 1000lbs more than my cummins as well. Cummins is on 37's with a 3.42 ring and pinion and the Wagon was 37's with 4.88's. I was lucky to get 700kms a tank with the 6.4 and with the cummins I can squeeze 1400kms a tank. Fuel tanks are the same capacity. Maintenance on both platforms is a piece of cake which is nice. Great video!

[@67CTD]

First true comment! The 6.4 is a pig! My old 6.2 Ford pulled better then a 6.4. Currently own a 6.7 Cummins fully deleted and it’s awesome!

[@supersonoma9871]

@@67CTD yeah big time!! The money I wasted fuelling up the 6.4 vs the 6.7 is staggering. And I don’t have to cut my oil filter apart to inspect it for metal from the prone to fail lifters in the 6.4. Another con of the power wagon is it doesn’t come with an HD trans. It comes with the same trans in the half tons but the truck is classified as a heavy duty. Big fail.

[@combatoffroad]

I've had My powerwagon for a few months now and only about 2500 Miles on it. I also average about 11-12mpg on 37's. I have not recalibrated yet so the number may be a bit higher. I love the responsiveness of the engine and it is very impressive off road. I don't do much towing/hauling more camping and road trips to OHV locations so this was a great option for me. I deleted the resonator on my PW and swapped the muffler out for something less restrictive. It is LOUD!

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I'm thinking of keeping the resonator on and going a muffler delete route. we'll see how loud it gets lol

[@combatoffroad]

@@TheGettyAdventures Got a video of the sound on my page... it can get a little loud sometimes on the highway.

[@supersonoma9871]

@@TheGettyAdventures flowmaster American thunder for the regular 2500’s works on the power wagon. Just needs a little mod on the right rear of the exhaust to stop the pan hard bar from knocking it off the hanger. Sounds mint and little drone. I ran a magna flow exhaust before that and it was terrible for drone. Like vibrating the cab bad. Muffler delete and resonator makes it raspy and loud with a load on it. Get yourself a pedal commander as well. Makes a big difference and if you upsize the tires make sure to get it calibrated. The trans will shift like garbage if you don’t.

[@mIkEy-er9fo]

Great points! Get the truck you need for your intended us vs for status. traded my 2015 Ram 2500 with the 6.7 Cummins for a a brand new 2018 Ram 3500 with the 6.4L Hemi and 3.73 gears. Had to "Match the hatch" for my Palomino HS-6601 Truck bed camper that was 2100 Lbs. My Ram Tradesman with the Hemi has 3103 LB cargo vs my old 2015 with 6.7 Diesel that had max cargo rating of 2300 Lbs. Basically I would have been over GVWR if I put the camper on and loaded up both myself an a PB&J sandwich... not willing to play that game with my insurance company in case of an accident. "Overweight sorry... your fault!'. I love Power Wagons but they are not rated for much cargo due to their off road capabilities and suspension. They are only rated for like 1600-1700 Lbs of cargo from the door stickers I have seen vs Tradesmen and Bighorns from like 3200-2800 depending on options.( All Crew Cab 4wd models BTW for comparison).

[@scottweis7214]

Nice job, I respect your honest opinions. Lets face it every guy loves the torque of a diesel. After owning and paying for several big diesel repairs, I ordered a new 5500 chassis cab with a 6.4 Hemi. The truck will be a tank truck so the payload increase will help. The other thing I don't think you mentioned is the cost of DEF and Diesel. The fuel economy is not just MPG but $/Mile or KM.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I did think about mentioning DEF but from talking to a co-worker with a 2021 cummins he said it's a pretty small amount every month. like under 50 dollars. So I took his word for it. but you are 100% over the lifetime of a vehicle 50 dollars a month adds up. and now that diesel is somehow more expensive then regular fuel that too will add up over the lifetime of a vehicle!

[@damontroch4765]

​@TheGettyAdventures and Diesel cost $12k USD. more off the bat. Plus the Diesel fuel is more than gas but at least $1.50 a gallon US. No one waits 25k miles To change their oil on a diesel 😂 More like 10-12K miles. Your claim that the Cummings is double the efficiency is ridiculous 😂. They don't average 26 mpgs😂😂 The fact is the 6.4 gets 13 mpg and the 6.7 gets 17 18. There is nothing efficient about a modern HD diesel truck. You will never get your money back from a 3- 4 MPG savings by the time both trucks rot out from north American roads.

[@Jay-hh1sm]

I bought a 6.4 hemi 2500 and added a suspension lift . It’s like a “ power wagon” but with payload and towing 😎

[@privateer9181]

people dont realy buy power wagons for pay load and towing they buy 2500s and 3500s

[@Jay-hh1sm]

@@privateer9181 yes sir , that’s why I went with the 2500 instead of the power wagon !

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I mean sort of I guess. but the power wagon has a custom suspension set up thats designed to be soft. that's what makes it so great off-road. either way I'm sure your truck looks awesome with the lift.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

agreed.

[@privateer9181]

@@TheGettyAdventures its realy that front and rear locker that make the difference as far as off road its too bad there is not a back country 2500 with a rear locker like the 1500 has maybe soon

[@a.r.o7697]

I installed Banks boost tubes and cold air intake on my 2018. In doing so I eliminated that baffle that is in the stock intake and increased the throttle response. It also made the turbo more noticeable as far as sound. Banks products are CARB approved, so as someone living in California, I was able to do those mods.

[@benbloomer7503]

Thanks for all the work you put into the video. I'm looking at buying a 2016 with the 6.4l hemi.

[@Bones12x2]

With modern HD trucks and gas vs diesels the answer is simple. If you genuinely need the extra torque, get the diesel if not, stay away. I tow a single car hauler with a gas 3/4 ton and rarely feel like it needs more power. The extra torque would be great occasionally or if got a bigger trailer but the cost of maintenance on the new diesels is insane and not worth it if you don't absolutely need it.

[@pittsburghpirate8237]

I got an 18 power wagon after watching your videos .. I’m already at 83 thousand miles .. curious around about how many miles I should anticipate motor lasting ..?

[@JKoolina]

Great video. The past December rented a 2500 Big Horn with the 6.7 for a trip from Indiana to Florida while towing our 5k lb 25ft travel trailer. Loved the truck/engine. 1400 miles there and got 13.3 mpg towing. Now torn on what to buy the 6.7 or 6.4. I loved the mpg of the 6.7, but i know the 6.4 will do the job. I also keep my vehicles until they die. So I may recoup the intial cost.

[@BetaRacer24]

Where did you rent from? I sold my 21 Ram 2500 and its going to take forever but id like to rent a truck to tow the camper around

[@rustyjoe25]

Great video. Made my mind up on big gas over diesel. Now I just need to choose between the Rebel 2500 and the Powerwagon. Currently have a 2019 Rebel 1500 with the 5.7. Absolutely love it, but it's not great at towing my 7k lb trailer. Worried about the suspension on the Powerwagon with the trailer though...

[@TheGettyAdventures]

The power wagon actually tows pretty well. the main reason why they rate the towing so low is because of the disconnecting sway bay and the added height of the truck. the actual driveline of a power wagon is rated to tow 17,000lbs. I towed a 8,100lbs skid steer/trailer combo with it and it barely worked. but if you are worried go with the Rebel, either way can't go wrong!

[@rustyjoe25]

@@TheGettyAdventures All good Intel. Thanks. Keep up the good work.

[@Marklin15]

Have you had problems with the MDS system? That’s the only thing I worry about on the 6.4.

[@blueduster74]

I have a couple large fleets we service, there are several 6.4s over 300k. They replaced the oil pumps and timing chains at 200k. Several of their 6.7s are closing in on 400k.

[@JavedKhan-qx4ht]

What should I get I am selling my 2012 ram 1500 5.7 because I want the crew cab 2500 8ft box but not sure is I should get the 6.4 or 6.7 i don’t really tow anything much other than my boat once in a while but I will have tools and do about 2000 to 3000 km a week what you guys think?

[@fscottgray9784]

I did a simple cost pre mile braekdown. 6.4 getting 13 mpg and the cummins getting 18 mpg. cost of fuel per gallon each $3.50. so the 6.4 cost 26.92 ents per mile and the cummins 19.44 cents per mile. A difference of 7.48 cents per mile. $12,000 up front cost extra for the cummins so the breakeven point is 160,000 miles. Yes you would get the added resale value on the cummins at that time. But this also does not figure in the added maintenance cost of the cummins.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I honestly like both engines but it is interesting to see the costs of each kind of laid out! also 3.50 a gallon eh. price of diesel up here is roughly 6.60 a gallon. Canada does it best.

[@fscottgray9784]

@@TheGettyAdventures I just used what my local prices were at this time. Usually diesel is a little more here than gas.

[@TheRealThaenatos]

I never understood people who say: "Its a HD/SD pickup fuel milege shouldnt matter". Im sorry but I tow with my truck (1500) alot and I haul, and the lats thing I want to worry about is having to fuel all the time. So yeah I dont need commuter car MPGs, but fuel efficiency is important if you actually use your truck. Im still on the fence for my next truck and Im between: Ram 2500 6.4 vs cummins vs Ford 250 7.3l gasser...

[@joegrau5431]

I got a 45km hike to work 1 way that's why I bought the cummins lol I'm also a heavy equipment mechanic but in the states I enjoy the videos bud

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Are you enjoying your 20mpg to work every day lol cuz I'm enjoying my 12mpg. haha and thanks man appreciate it. learning slowly as I go.

[@dantimber]

How would you option a 2500 4x4 regular cab? If the Hemi would you choose the 3.73 or 4.10? I'm driving rough logging roads so want to have the best ride possible. Also what are your thoughts on MDS?

[@TheGettyAdventures]

4.10 gears are great if you don't mind the extra fuel costs. truck will feel less sluggish and responsive and will give you more towing ability. if you want better fuel mileage 3.73 is the way to go. MDS system on these 6.4 gets used so little compared to my 5.7 it's almost never used. my understanding is that the MDS does not contribute to hemi lifter failures when I last talked to a couple RAM techs. so guys swear that the MDS system will cause issues but I don't support that thinking.

[@dantimber]

@@TheGettyAdventures Great advice. Thanks. I haven't read any complaints about MDS like GM's cylinder deactivation however their HD uses a gas 6.6 that doesn't have it. Ditto Ford's HD with the 7.3 - no cylinder deactivation. What I like about the Ram 2500 is the rear coil suspension. While I haven't been able to test drive one it's suppose to be much softer riding than the leafs on the Ford and GM's. It's kind of a big deal since I'm on logging roads so much.

[@chasestecklein5777]

My 2020 tradesman 6.4 with same gears average is around 15 mpgs

[@brentinchley4798]

I just ordered a 6.7 big horn. I drive about 13km everyday to work on the highway I just wanted a diesel HD truck. I have a boat that weighs about 4600lbs I know a 1500 can do it but always wanted an HD. I’ve heard that of you use the right DEF it will help keep your DPF clean and clear is that true? Hope I didn’t make a mistake lol

[@ryanross7652]

I don’t know if it’s still an issue on the new 6.4’s but I had a 2015 6.4 that had lifter failure at 70k miles, dealer installed new cam & lifters. Then had the same thing happen at 158k miles. Mechanic at dodge dealer said it’s a somewhat common problem on the 5.7 and 6.4.

[@Jbennyho]

Has Ram made any modifications or fixes on this problem on the newer 6.4’s? The problem appears to be random but primarily caused by lack of oil pressure in the top end. Seems like they ought to be able to rectify it by now. Not a viable solution to offer a longer warranty. They need to fix the problem.

[@jasonschell6036]

I drive about 30,000 miles a year. With those filter prices plus gas, say at $4/gal, my annual costs would be: Hemi: $10,300/yr Cummins $7,300/yr Add the diesel engine loan cost of $14,000 over a 7 year loan and you have: Hemi: $10,300/yr Cummins $9,300/yr These number do not factor in the inevitably higher Cummins repair maintenance costs. But you get to keep the value of the Cummins after the loan is paid off though, so there's that. I want the Power Wagon because I personally value the off road capability and features more than towing. I reason that off roading a diesel truck ends up giving you the mediocre of both worlds to a degree. Granted, a Power Wagon isn't exactly a rock climbing Jeep Wrangler either. It's bigger and bulkier. It can't access quite the same trails and areas as the Jeep. But the Power Wagon does everything a truck can do that a Jeep can't. There's always a trade off. I just feel the added weight of the diesel engine plus the loss of the disconnecting front sway bar, locking front differential, and suspension changes are massive when you switch to a Cummins. Power Wagon here I come! 😬👍

[@eliasholguin8739]

What is recommended or NOT recommended for long idols?

[@chrisc5574]

Any cummins owners, I recommend changing your CCV filter once a year and adding a catch can to save your turbo

[@lotdominguezcastellon6028]

Question, can you remove the after treatment out? I'm gonna buy a ram truck but it will not be driven in the US, it will be going to central America where there is no emissions there, just wondering.