The Superorganism and the Self | Frankly 73

[@PimpinNinja2U]

Grief is the price of love, and your tears are a testament to that.

[@benioren6120]

Aphorism

[@KimberleyHare-r8r]

So wonderful to see where your path is taking you Nate! Don't be afraid of being woo-woo - you've more than established your 'material' credentials. It's both and, not either/or. Sending big love xx

[@PeterTodd]

Well said Kimberley

[@robertgulfshores4463]

Oh man, this episode hit me hard, I was tearing up, on my way to a work appointment. Thanks Nate, for helping us all navigate these times. I have made dozens of small changes in my life, to reduce my impact and to even restore nature. Sustainability is no longer the goal for me, I want to BRING BACK NATURE, to a most beautiful state. We can do it, if we want to. And yes, I have become spiritually connected, like never before.

[@TheFlyingBrain.]

🔥💚🔥 Now you've got it! Keep it up and growing, brother. This is what we're here for.

[@frustratedatheist9885]

So sorry for your loss Nate! I was a materialist for over 20 years, and now, I'm not. I've been reading a lot and listening to many lectures, and I'm glad I've moved away from materialism. Take care!

[@yossarian67]

“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” J. Krishnamurti

[@beyonder7817]

yep i agree

[@rigelb9025]

It is no measure of progress to be governed by technology.

[@bluespruce786]

Regular guy here. 52yo, 3 teenagers, boring job, happy marriage, mortgage, 2 vehicles etc. Confirming a recent woo awareness. Its been rather extraordinary actually.

[@dalebirononpoetry]

Really appreciated this Frankly, Nate. The amazing (and yes, at times mysterious) way the head, heart, and hands come together is of deep interest to me. And I believe profoundly important as we step deeper into the meta-crisis, working to meet these times with as much skill and wisdom as we can muster...

[@lizbatten]

Thank you Nate. I love your work and this growing awareness you're sharing of the oneness of all things is beautiful to see and hear. If you haven't already, please have a conversation with Rob Hopkins, the co-founder of the Transition Towns movement. His work helps put everything you've identified into practice - connection, energy, flow, imagination, creativity, positivity, joy. What we need right now ❤

[@susanporter199]

So sorry about the loss of your dog, Nate. Yes, they are family. I attend online meetings at Collapse Club and it helps me process the feelings that come up about the meta crisis. Sometimes I feel like I'm crazy because no one wants acknowledge or talk about it. It helps to hang out with people who see what I see. Thanks for all the work you do to educate the public.

[@galacticsoul1615]

Nate is in a spiritual awakening. Namaste.🙏🏿

[@weltraumaffe4155]

if you say so

[@rigelb9025]

As in technology becoming aware of itself?

[@Mtnshell56]

Beautiful Nate! ❤ you are growing profoundly as a human being

[@rigelb9025]

What kind of human being is he?

[@pigstonwidget]

We love you Nate. Your animations are brilliant! How wonderful to finish with the amazing Jane Goodall ....

[@curtisbush8098]

Thank you for the clip from Jane Goodall... I too welled up and wept. Please keep doing what you're doing... your heart and energy are a blessing to us all. Though there's a screen and miles of cables/air between us, I sense a kind of 'force field of goodness' coming from your office. I can't thank you enough for shining your light on this journey.

[@leiladarling4495]

Hello Hagens, I' m from the Amazon, land, climate and native people. I' m a doctor, including Epidemiology , biostatistics and Neurology. We all need to be strong, like a strong man. Women, also need to be strong like a strong man. In our biology, our Nature corroborates within our biochemistry. Corroborating with ourselves will help us adapt , accept and endure. We need also to pray outloud in groups. Be strong, Hagan. God Bless

[@rigelb9025]

Are you sure you're not from the world-wide amazon?

[@kellycouch3268]

This openness and sharing from the heart honestly....this is why we trust what you share and the way you engage with your guests. Thank you!!!

[@nancercize]

Hear, hear. It’s brave and necessary to give each other a glimpse into our souls.

[@rigelb9025]

I've gotta say, for someone who isn't actually there right before me, he gives off surprising warmth.

[@DT-bx8lc]

Dude… I absolutely love you so much Nate and I’m just so grateful you exist in this universe! Thank you for being sincere and providing your authentic energy.

[@rigelb9025]

What other places than 'this universe' can someone exist in? I'm genuinely curious.

[@amazzzona]

Nate, you are having a spiritual awakening. Sending you much love from Venezuela

[@boblove3167]

McGilchrist teaches us that the kind of attention we give to things determines what we perceive them to be. If you attend to them only as material, you will see them as useful or not for various purposes. Jung proposed that synchronicity is real and is available to us in times of need when we are attending to levels of being beyond the purely pragmatic. Your diagram showing three levels of being is a good start in attending to the metaphysical. If you will read EF Schumacher's Small is Beautiful ... Especially chapter 6 ... You will find the metaphysical permits us to transcend the physical. Whoa!

[@steveberkson3873]

Thanks for expressing what many of us feel. I don’t know how many times I’ve shed tears over the years ..for Mother Earth ..very important this emotional connection ~ Thanks

[@rigelb9025]

It's a good thing we have such advanced technology there to comfort us in times of struggle.

[@adamwidawski]

Thanks for sharing, Nate. Congratulations on your initiation. Physicalism is not an ontology for a post-secular age. Science alone will not suffice to address the metacrisis. We need magick, and this video was a good example of one. 😉

[@rigelb9025]

I've gotta say, when he told me he was still a materialist at heart, I had a hard time believing it.

[@Beherenow-p5e]

Thanks you Nate. I like where you/we are going. Namaste ❤

[@rigelb9025]

Who is he, and who are 'we'?

[@dustcircle]

I"m sorry for your loss. I've had to do it twice, and it's not easy at all.

[@Gnevnyj]

I am so sorry for your loss, Nate.

[@jjeremyhunterr]

Hi Nate. It's great to hear you talk about this, and the feeling of a certain consciousness 'bubbling up'. I've been sensing a similar thing. Its a strange paradox that the seemingly terrible age we're living in is also a gift. The anxiety and challenge and grief of living through the metacrisis can also bring out the best in us as we process it, because we start to truly come to terms with what is real, what is true and what actually matters in life, and this in turn makes our lives even more vibrant and full and whole. It's a strange and beautiful time to be alive.

[@SuzanneTaylorSUESpeaks]

This is so nicely put. The turmoil we are in could shake us out of the rut of materialism, to where we become cooperative and caring so we have a good future.

[@Beherenow-p5e]

We are in the middle of a quite painful and excillerating transition and awakening is happening on a grand scale, awakening aka consciousness. We are truly living in terrifying as well as enlightening times, trying to find balance in the chaos. It's a wild ride. Hang on and enjoy every moment ❤

[@rigelb9025]

Lots of new consciounsess 'bubbling up' in these videos. I just have to wonder how natural & authentic it actually is.

[@tonybrand6220]

My deep condolences Nate, lovely photos of Maisy ❤. From a fellow dog lover in the UK. Thank you so much for this wonderful channel by the way.

[@rigelb9025]

It feels like he's channelling much of humanity's hopes, fears & desires through this channel of his.

[@rgsteinman4842]

Thank you so much for your soulful sharing. I feel like I am in a circle with you, and with many others who are listening and sharing this "Great Simplification" experience. And we are all holding hands - a part of the interconnected, interdependent, oneness. 🌏❤

[@veraczemerinski9730]

Honesty guiding the path. We were pretty much blind getting stuck only at the left brain side anyway, so nothing to loose about being honest with the personal process. I hope more of us start wooing at the same time, maybe we have a chance to see something different happening. Thank you, as always, Nate.

[@naturodoc]

Wow. I have only discovered your channel a couple wks ago. What a great vid. Yes please keep talking about ALL of this.

[@staudingerk]

Thanks for sharing! This episode meant a lot to me.

[@motolorax]

Wonderful. As a scientist (exhausted, furious and anxious government conservation ecologist) that is 4 months into my own 'woo' journey, welcome aboard. I'm running the same hypotheses, trying to understand my awareness of this dynamic. And thanks too for providing wide view analysis and a vocabulary for a multitude of issues I was struggling to synthesise and describe on my own. Hugs from NZ

[@iczgighost]

Nate, thank you for demonstrating how to be open-hearted while retaining your intellect. You are showing us the strength of being vulnerable in these most challenging times... The Well of Grief Those who will not slip beneath the still surface on the well of grief, turning down through its black water to the place we cannot breathe, will never know the source from which we drink, the secret water, cold and clear, nor find in the darkness glimmering, the small round coins, thrown by those who wished for something else. (by David Whyte)

[@lovman]

Nate, I echo what many have said here, thanks for your work. On this topic, someone you may choose to have on the podcast is Steve Taylor, who has explored this topic extensively. His name for this is panspiritism, which is similar to, but distinct from panpsychism.

[@vexy1987]

It seems hollow to post it in a comment on youtube, but I'm so sorry for your loss Nate. Our relationships are our tethers to all that matters in this world. The world needs more left brained spiritualists. It's a deeply fascinating exploration.

[@rigelb9025]

By 'left-brain spiritualists', do you mean advanced AGI?

[@richardworthington7184]

Thank you for this wonderful Frankly - lovely to see your wonder at the recognition of our energetic fields, as you recalled it. A welcome complementary theme to your mainly materialist focus - which you also do with aplomb!

[@Slick-666]

I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm sure she lived a full life.

[@iamthebearjew96]

I'm really sorry about your doggo Nate. Grief is the culmination of love, and I know your grief must be deep because you love so deeply. Take care of yourself, and spend time with the people and animals who love you. I'll see you for the next video Nate.

[@rigelb9025]

How do you know he loves so much? Do the two of you share a personal relationship?

[@JaseboMonkeyRex]

deep condolences on the loss of your dog- we love them and they are such important members of our familes... mate, I find myself crying almost every week watching the news and knowing the future my son is going to inherit. we are all going to have to be warriors and fight for a vision that we want live in.... it is possible and the door is not completely shut even though large disruptions are now inevitable.

[@Carbonbank]

Whilst walking in the forest - I thought about how these difficult times have strengthened certain people…accepting hard truths have grounded others, and collectively, there is an upwelling of harmony and action. Thanks for being so damn solid Nate. Onward…

[@rigelb9025]

It is quite surprising to see someone like that who's both so solid & grounded in materialism, while at the same time being so 'woo-woo' & spiritually connected. Has an almost 'other-wordly, inhuman' quality about it.

[@lokulin]

The way I think about it: When you called that lady a psycho, you are not calling the actual physical lady that exists out in the world a psycho, but rather you are calling the model of that lady that exists in your head a psycho, and thus calling a part of yourself a psycho because that model only exists inside your own head. I'm not sure if that makes much sense, but it is how I interpret the "anger is violence against yourself" and "everyone/thing is connected" in a materialist way. I don't think there is any need to resort to "woo" when we have modern psychology and neuroscience to explain things like when you concentrate on negative things you strengthen the associations in your brain. Sometimes all it takes is a novel context to snap you out of a dangerous feedback loop and allow you to see how a previous behavior was really just causing yourself harm. On a side note, I do think we need to be careful of saying things are "unexplainable" when really they are explainable but just that the explanation might make things feel less magical or more mundane. That to me is falling in to the "woo" trap. Sometimes it is magical to observe how mundane or boring some things are once you accept that there is no magic or woo required, and that in itself is a mind shift.

[@mmnuances]

Dear Nate, I am in complete resonance with your description of the arising wakeful, connected, wholesome countercurrent of awareness running counter to the collapse of global ecological balance, and along with that, the collapse of global civilization. I hear your reticence in terms of sounding "woo". I can tell you that I also am conversant with all areas of science and am a "materialist" as you describe yourself. It is difficult in a short message like this to communicate what I am feeling, but I can say that my life is filled with the same sort of serendipitous energetic connections with others that you describe and that the more you tap into that energy the more you discover it right there where you live. I think of it almost as a positive feedback loop of enlightened awareness... amplified and expanded with every interaction with another human being who has felt it in some way. I wish that somehow those of us who follow your podcast and have experienced these truths could gather in person, in significant numbers, and experience and amplify this countercurrent. In the end, it is nothing you can grasp or hold onto; rather it is a shared flow in our bodies that resonates with the flow in other's bodies and it does create a powerfully dynamic field that is the amplification of life itself filled with joy and creative potential. This "countercurrent" is the redemption of the human race. I am a totally insignificant old man in a small town in Iowa but I would do anything in my power to organize a meeting of those who know....

[@rigelb9025]

If you were to organize such an event, I might like to come and share, who knows! I just hope our friend Nate would be there as well. It would go a long way in showing how truly committed he is.

[@mmnuances]

@@rigelb9025 I would love to be an organizer of such an event and even now, more than ever, after the US election. However, I am just a powerless old man who happens to have been lucky enough to develop a skill in modulating awareness and then with that attentional flexibility, explored some interesting aspects of the awareness phenomenological state space. There are others who know about these spaces but they are mostly "hidden".

[@rigelb9025]

@@mmnuances Yeah, somehow I'm not surprised such an event was never supposed to happen.

[@beefandbarley]

Science and Spirituality are two sides of the same coin. Imho, a balance of the two investigative methods is critical for a holistic view of Reality. Keep going Nate. 👍❤️

[@anaaceves4235]

You made me cry too as I listened to your talk. Thank you for what you do.

[@annibjrkmann8464]

You speak as a real hunan being. I hear and listen to others and very few times do I feel they are here or that they care. You and people like you give me hope❤

[@rigelb9025]

He's almost more real than the real thing, isn't he.

[@Anna_handcrafts]

It really helps listening to you and your vision from Spain, thanks for all you do

[@lqmw]

Thanks! I couldn't hold back my tears when I saw the photo of Jane Goodall; my 5-year-old daughter is a fan of hers. (I really don't cry, like ever, and I'm thanking you for it)

[@JPCoetzee]

Man hug for your loss. Thank you for your openness.

[@zoecohen9071]

Thank you for sharing your own real feelings Nate. Great modelling for other men xx

[@zoecohen9071]

I believe that the depth of our grief is in direct proportion to the height of our love. The grief and it's expression are necessary

[@rigelb9025]

Perhaps a great model for future cybernetic programs as well.

[@nancercize]

It seems we are all living Richard Powers’ “Bewilderment.” What a beautiful heartbreaking experience.

[@rigelb9025]

I'd call it a 'Betechenment'.

[@TheDeadSol]

Good for you Nate. Condolences for your loss of your dog, and you're growing and that's a good thing. We shouldn't be knocking people down, and do what we can to help.

[@yossarian67]

So sorry to hear about your doggy friend and the loss you’re feeling. ❤

[@d.Cog420]

I reckon the connection is with everything as opposed to everyone as you mentioned. I think everyone is a subset of everything and not on a wooh sense but a simple physical one: everything comes from our universe (and whatever may or may not lie outside or inside that).

[@allonesame6467]

There once was a guru who told a story about an encounter in NYC. He had come from satsang and darshan with thousands of people. He got to his hotel room and felt a huge presence in the room and recognized it as a "superorganism". I can't remember the Hindi term he used for this energetic being, but he recognized it as a representative of the the city, a culmination or coalescence of all the combined energies of all the people of the city, benign, happy and welcoming, an entity to befriend as it is part of us. Namaste

[@lindabaker5797]

1:00 great podcasts Nate. I think even though you are cautious about being woo I believe you are pulling in some next level threads. These serendipitous moments are real. Happy New Year! Keep up the good work!

[@pilatesme73]

Namaste, dear Nate

[@aiemys]

I'm so sorry for your loss. Hope she went peacefully.

[@davehendricks4824]

Empathy, the greatest gift give to humans. I teared up at the end of this podcast.

[@Namari12]

I'm so sorry about your dog, Nate--you've spoken many times on the show of how important they are to you and I know that must be so, so hard. Losing a pet is so painful. Thank you for this poignaint talk today. I too am very much a 'materialist' when it comes to this kind of thing and have a deep natural suspicion of the 'woo-woo' but I do know what you mean and can relate to what you're saying. Appreciate your thoughts!

[@user-vi6ro8bd4l]

❤beautiful heartfelt share. Pet relationships are so strong. The ending is such a hard landing. We are facing the same with our 18-year-old dog. It's our last weekend together. Brutal. Been using the Grief Recovery Method for pets, to help get through. 😢

[@steveberkson3873]

Love the honesty ..

[@jamesrichey]

There's a long battle between Plato and Democritus about materialism or idealism being the foundation of the universe. I have long ago come to the conclusion that idealism, which is another word for consciousness, is the foundation of our world. So, Woo all you want, Nate.

[@klausfaller19]

Thanks, Nate. Having three myself, I feel deeply moved about your loss and wish you a gentle recovery. Frankly, it takes a real man to cry, and maybe we are not doing it enough. One could think about synchronicities as an indication that we are connected in a higher whelm. That Whelm being in aid of the greater Good, which has the love for creation at its centre. As the more grounded one becomes, as more often they appear. No woo woos just tell tells for affirming that one is on the right pass. Stay sane all.

[@rinnin]

This is beautiful Nate. So sorry to hear about Maisie. She looked like a lovely dog. In relation to what you were saying about a disconnection between humans & the natural world, energy fields around people & the heart, you should check out Norwegian artist, singer, musician, producer AURORA. She has this amazing way she sees the world & wants to re-connect people & her latest album (What Happenned To The Heart?) is all about these themes, war, AI, climate breakdown, human disconnection, healing etc etc. I'm totally hooked & just saw her for the first time last night in Manchester (UK). Something incredibly special about her. Highly recommended (even to listen to some of her interviews). Namaste! 🙏🌍🌱

[@michlwezenngraon7487]

I too cried when I heard Jane Goodall's greeting in chimpanzee language. I live on the edge of a national park in Australia, and I constantly interact with wild animals plus my own hens and roosters. The wild animals also interact with my hens and roosters, bush turkeys are constantly foraging with them when they are out. In addition, I do wildlife rehabilitation and I often raise wild baby animals until they are released. There is ABSOLUTELY NO indisputable distinction between humans and animals. Our respective status is based on cooperation most of the time and a power struggle some of the time. This can go to violence. I eat a little meat (a small amount once a week or so), but I refuse to consume industrially grown and killed animals, so I hunt and fish. Naturally it wouldn't be possible for billions of people to go hunting. It is a great privilege to be directly responsible for the killing of the animals you eat. It changes everything about meat consumption. It brings in reverence and respect for the prey.

[@ebihay916]

Reverence and respect?!! So do you have reverence and respect for your human family members? Would you kill and eat them? You are justifying your murderous consumption. Shocking.

[@PeterTodd]

Wow Nate, this was a really touching and deeply affecting Frankly. Thank you for sharing. To paraphrase Nick Cave: As we grow older we become creatures of loss. It's not a tragic element, rather it's the fundamental fabric of who we are as living beings, it brings incredible meaning.

[@bobcva3627]

I felt chills, good ones, when Nate began talking about being a materialist yet experiencing things that were hard to explain. I too am strongly a materialist but in the last couple years I have experienced "coincidences" that seemed to be too impossible statistically to explain away. For lack of a better way to describe these, I refer to them as "gifts from the Universe." I know, sounds like "woo" and I still retain my scientific skepticism, yet I do wonder. Some of these experiences include "stumbling across" books or articles or podcasts (like Nate's) that seem to be exactly what I needed at the time for the progress of my thinking. BTW, I have become convinced that there is a "life force" that has continued unbroken (although splitting into multiple strands--of which we humans are only one of many emergences--to reproduce, maintain and sustain, diversify and then pass on the torch to descendants through which the force has survived (albeit not always any given strand) since LUCA. I realize many spiritual traditions have posited such a force and described attributes and agency of it. But what I see is as a real as the other forces that science has tried to describe but still barely understand. Yes, we living things are all interrelated.

[@ZaneLiebrum]

So sorry for your loss. It never gets easier. Hang in there.

[@helenheinmiller3104]

Hi Nate, I believe our evolution is contingent on science and spirituality merging, as we realize they are two sides of the same coin attempting to explain the creative source or all. When we recognize that humans, animals, plants right down to soil microbes are connected through an energetic web that forms a unified body of existence we call life, the answers will come naturally and obviously. Just my opinion.

[@pookah9938]

You don't need to go "Woo", Nate. "Woo" is. It is good of you to expand the systems understanding.

[@judithmcdonald9001]

I took that as a "wu"

[@JulieTorres-qe2ls]

Never anticipated your podcast agreeing with the Candace Owens podcast that I just watched...... serendipity ❤

[@original_poster]

This frankly really hit home. I strongly agree with your words.

[@brawndo8726]

Regarding synchronicities, you should read The Alchemist. It describes them as "omens" that indicate one is on the right path, yet most people ignore them and return to the mundane.

[@andywilliams7989]

SYNCHRONARCHY❤❤

[@andywilliams7989]

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[@dannyfreemantle6492]

Heading in the right direction Nate 👌❤️

[@EduardoRodriguez-du2vd]

Thanks! ❤

[@robinschaufler444]

Deep sympathy for the loss of Maisy! Go ahead and cry. Tears are cleansing solution for the soul. Society has been fractured and sick long before the carbon pulse began in earnest. American colonists committed genocide and slavery. Slavery has been with us since the dawn of civilization. The plow enslaved the ox. Perhaps only by the carbon pulse blessing us with longevity and fewer children can our hearts open up to the love that enables us to grieve. That is the first step towards healing. Be healed, Nate! Your love inspires our love for you. Namaste.

[@supportingcauses]

That you turned the triangle to a circle to a sphere suggests that perhaps the triangle wasn't such an important heuristic in the first place. The picture you ended up with looked much more like a mycorrhizal network. Hooray for Woo, when it is done with humility and in service of greater enrichment. Like all things, it is not the subject matter that can offend, but rather the energy with which it is expressed.

[@dustibecker4233]

Sorry about Massy. RIP...cry as there is so much to cry about these days.

[@mayamichelle6741]

❤️‍🩹 Thank you for sharing Nate. 🙏

[@musiqtee]

Thanks for sharing, Nate - and may our memories from a lost, dear companion serve you well. I’m in the same place as you are, through a blend of realist & materialist observation, social repercussions from increasing individualisation and the effects from drifting into some form of meta-modern realisation towards holistics and relations. I am not alone - but very lonely. Ironically, that sentiment seems to be a shared experience. You and your numerous interviewees hint to the same, but we also share a flicker of hope. Again, my deepest gratitude for your way of being and doing…! 😊

[@allonesame6467]

May condolences from friends ease the hearts of the grieving. 👐💖👐

[@mrrecluse7002]

Yeah, Nate. We need action, and a complete end to denial, but we are not getting those things, so sadly, in turn, this is also a time for crying. I'm 74, and very different from my younger days. One huge difference is that now I know, when to just let myself cry, especially over the ongoing deterioration of the natural world. Dogs are in a class all their own. Their minds are far less complex, but that's what makes them such wonderful creatures. To compliment dogs further, is my belief that minds are a matter of degree, and I think the gulf between dogs and humans is far less vast that many think. When my dogs die, I'm torn apart also.

[@peterjames5473]

Simply wonderful!

[@begonaRR]

Önce I was walking in the busy mamba station in Osaka, busy like everyone rushing to get on a train, and suddenly I felt an immense and beautiful energy, I looked, a monk just passed me by, idk what kind of monk, a Buddhist monk I guessed. I stood looking while he was disappearing in the crowd.

[@PaulMackay-k7i]

Woo definitely exists, homie, go with it

[@AlexMcLean-ip6rv]

Grief and gratitude are janky symbionts that clash in our brains sometimes: A breakup in a relationship, the death of a beloved pet, or living in the era of consequences -- on this still-beautiful and benevolent planet -- might be examples. I feel like I have watched all of Nate's interviews and meditations. I remain surprised, given how often he dips his toes into the topics of trauma, spirituality, loss, etc., that he hasn't yet (to my knowledge) referenced Deep Adaptation, Jem Bendell's work, or the loose diaspora of support groups and people who are plugged into navigating a hope-free future.

[@cdineaglecollapsecenter4672]

Really liked this. Thank you.

[@john1boggity56]

I tear up when i think about how our Indigenous peoples have been treated by the colonial project and all that wonderful knowledge and connection with country that has been lost. Rips me to pieces.

[@futureproof.health]

thank you.

[@SlowDownShapeChange]

Holding the both/and is difficult! You're doing it and sharing about it. Thank you. I came from a "rational/material" background, too. You are doing the work. Can't wait to hear more on this. Sending love.

[@rigelb9025]

He's laying the groundwork for the great departure from materialism & sense-reliance for generations to come.

[@SlowDownShapeChange]

@@rigelb9025 agree

[@rigelb9025]

@@SlowDownShapeChange But I think that's a bit unsettling. I'm not familiar with this.

[@SlowDownShapeChange]

@@rigelb9025 I understand. It is unsettling! It is change. A couple years ago it was new for me and I remember that I was having a difficult time. One thing that might help is to take a look at what is called "wetiko" and what it entails and how it affects us. There are some books, possibly videos.

[@rigelb9025]

@@SlowDownShapeChange Interesting, thanks.

[@SeventhCircleID]

...WOO!... WOO! everywhere :)

[@TheFlyingBrain.]

>👻< Boo!

[@TennesseeJed]

❤ Metaphysical Nate!

[@buddyneher9359]

OMG, I haven't got past the first minute yet. Today is my sweet dog's 16th birthday (that's him in the profile pic; he is Buddy, I am not). He nearly crossed the bridge 4 years ago and I have treasured all this bonus time we've had. But I dread the day I might have to make that decision. There is much grief in our world, which I expect the rest of your video to talk about; but the personal grief when our canine friends leave us is especially deep and real. My condolences.

[@rigelb9025]

Guess it depends on the human, and the breed.

[@ebihay916]

Ohhh Nate, I feel your heart pain. In May 2023 I had to say good bye to my cat, my best friend, the love of my life, my confidant, my soul mate, for 17 and a half years, my dear little one my Ebi. My heart is very broken, she meant the world to me, she was always with me, except when I had to work two days a week for 4 hours, and when I went shopping. The pain never goes away. She helped get many traumas. She had dementia which got really really bad, anyway. I understand your pain and heartache. I empathize greatly. ❤❤

[@ebihay916]

She helped me get through many traumas, I meant to say.

[@willwchase]

Spot on sir. 😢😢😢

[@MattAngiono]

You touch on many important parts of our nature here... Our compassion, our interconnectedness, our connection to those we love, including animals. It still leaves me wondering how you have not yet connected to the ethical philosophy that is veganism. We are CONNECTED on levels that we simply don't understand in science, or even just the obvious ones that we do, to all the creatures on this planet. That clearly includes domesticated animals such as your precious Maisy and the rest of your family, but also those animals who we simply assign a monetary profit value in order to gain from their lives of total suffering. What does it say about the human "energetic field" or whatever you like to call such "woo" things that we commit a holocaust worth of suffering on innocent animals almost every minute (obviously this can't be directly measured, but you get the point). There's really nothing woo required to see that what we do to these animals is wrong and is ultimately hurting our chances of surviving all the things you discuss here as well. So much of the meta crisis is a direct result of how we have diminished the innate values or rights of these sentient beings, turning them into commodities and destroying the environment at epic scales in the process. We could connect to each other in such deeper ways, no woo needed, just by recognizing their inherent right to life, free of exploitation. This doesn't mean that we'll never harm another animal again, as civilization does require some amount of habitat to be sacrificed, but we could easily come way more into balance. It baffles me that you talk about so many of these things constantly but still don't understand or promote this ethical philosophy of nonaggression towards animals. And most importantly, to live that principle in your everyday life. When I watch what we do to animals and the lack of consideration we give to their suffering, it makes me think we deserve whatever is coming in this terrifying future. I'd like to look at us and feel differently, but even faced with this, we don't seem to be willing to change something so simple as to stop abusing innocent animals. What does this really say about us? What kind of woo energy or whatever is it really producing that we don't even face the consequences of our choices when people such as myself directly point to what's happening? I hope you start addressing this without tiptoeing around it. Just take up veganism already, because you know that's what is consistent with your values. Am I wrong??? I say this all with compassion and because I believe you know this true. I have no intention of getting down on you, but rather to help you see more clearly this important reality

[@marykayswanstrom9761]

Nate, sorry for your loss of your friend. I just came across SYNCHRONICITY, it seems to really connect with what you are saying.

[@nancercize]

Listening to this was a great way to start my day. Sorry about your dog, and also that I missed you while you were in New York. Nate, next time come up to Washington Heights and join my class, “Forest Fitness“. Every class is slightly different but it’s grounded in our starting with a circle around a linden tree in which we interlock arms and actually touch each other! We’ve been doing this for 20 years and the fitness part is just an excuse to get together for the social and emotional health of our little community

[@deepashtray5605]

The other day PBS had a documentary on ancient Assyria, the end of which focused on the cause for the violent destruction of the city of Nineveh in the 7th century b.c.e.. In that sequence an archaeologist was examining the corpse of a person who the evidence suggested was crushed by a beam which collapsed during the burning of the royal palace. I was struck by how much the world has changed since then, yet we have not.

[@getsameer]

I had almost the exact same conversation and exchange recently when discussing the predicament with youth networks recently. I feel very strongly and emotionally about the disconnect from place that we're all living through, and I'm personally trying to fix.

[@judithmcdonald9001]

Thank you for giving voice. You touched on many things I have studied--many wu li things. In recovery in the 80's a friend and I who were discussing coincidence decided that these were god's anonymity. Today I call these god shots--to be noted even if not understood. In the 1970s I was trained to channel Joh Rei, a Japanese discipline, rather a cross between Jesus and Buddha, and healing practice that uses this energy field or aura. What you say about the ability to feel that field is true, but it takes being able to clear the central channel to receive & use it. We studied auras quite a bit back in the day. That is our real energy crisis today. If we channeled our own energy. . . . In buddhism this discrepancy between that inner heart energy and the outer world is called the two truths. It is very difficult to put into Western terms and particularly hard to hold them both at the same time. That is why the Mahayana is called the middle way. I once heard, "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room." LOL. Guy Newland is a professor from whom I've taken teachings on this, but he is very "academic." -- And, as to dopamine, Sonny, it is not the reward chemical, it's the desire chemical that never gives reward and makes you keep wanting more. Robert Sapolsky, Stanford Lecture #15 on neurobiology of Human Sexual Behavior. The reward stops the dopamine production.I wish everyone knew this.If the reward is a negative one... deviant behaviors, alcoholism, sadism, drug addiction and plethora of mental deviations ensue. It's like a kid wanting attention and getting smacked is far different from a kid wanting attention and getting a hug. The memories, the grief of loss, the all pervasive suffering of being alive. My sympathies. Lining that up w goodall's chimp memories -- ancestry -- I've traced one line of my family back over a thousand years and it makes me cry not just for all the suffering of the human condition, but also sort of cellular feeling-- whether it's royalty or Quaker. . . we all suffer. As one getting too old to do much more than voice her opinion, I enjoy watching you grow. there is hope. Love, Aunt Judy